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Speaker 1: Donald Trump, the Supreme Court ruling, the Department of Education.

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Speaker 1: Josh Hammer is going to join us, break down some

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Speaker 1: legal matters.

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Speaker 2: All that and more coming up.

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Speaker 1: I'm right, Okay, let's talk about this Supreme Court ruling.

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Speaker 1: But I'll get to that in a moment. Because now

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Speaker 1: So here's one for you. Why did Japan surrender? Most

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Speaker 1: people will say two atomic bombs. We dropped two bombs

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Speaker 1: on them. Japan surrendered, and of course that moved Japan

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Speaker 1: They were getting ready to rebel. Now, think about that

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Speaker 2: What's that lesson have to do with today? Oh?

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Speaker 1: The people, No matter what form of government you are in,

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Speaker 1: Without end, you continue to deny and ignore the will

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Speaker 1: Smith actually went on the View because those hags in

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Speaker 1: And Steven A. Smith, I thought, laid it out pretty well.

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Speaker 3: Here was and what kind of mandate is this?

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Speaker 4: Really?

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Speaker 5: Well, it is a mandate, and I'm gonna explain why.

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Speaker 5: And I don't mind the question. But let me be

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Speaker 5: very clear. I'm no supporter of Trump. I'm a support

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Speaker 5: of truth in the facts. And here's the facts. The

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Speaker 5: man won every swing state. He increased in terms of

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Speaker 5: A matter of fact, the Republicans hadn't won the popular vote,

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Speaker 5: So twenty years after they last won the popular vote,

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Speaker 1: Datesn't think about that for a moment, because this is

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Speaker 1: Eighty nine percent of the counties in the United States

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Speaker 2: The exact reason.

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Speaker 1: Calling before God to defend this country, defend the unborn,

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Speaker 2: How cool is that.

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Speaker 7: The bottom line is because it's not working. Department of

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Speaker 1: It's wild, how just common sense. All this stuff sounds

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Speaker 1: Superintendent Corey that message that's not even a partisan message,

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Speaker 9: And she's talking about the proposal in Congress right now

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Speaker 1: Corey, sending the sending the money back to the States

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Speaker 9: We'd have more money for education than we had before

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Speaker 9: But it is a fantastic idea to It's not like

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Speaker 9: So this isn't as as this isn't as crazy of

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Speaker 1: Ryan, everybody knows the numbers, and they're sad numbers about

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Speaker 1: Fortieth this fortieth that how did that happen in a

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Speaker 2: We have the money for the.

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Speaker 1: Textbooks, we have the resources, we have resources people around

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Speaker 2: And yet we're.

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Speaker 1: Graduating some of the dumbest, freaking people in the world.

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Speaker 2: How did this happen? You know?

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Speaker 10: So, we had become the greatest country in the history

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Speaker 10: also look at society overall, Jesse. We have teenage suicide

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Speaker 10: worse as we've allowed federal bureaucrats to manipulate education and

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Speaker 10: here of absolute absurdity, and thank god for President Trump

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Speaker 1: Gentlemen, thank you both. I'm back soon, please, thank you.

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Speaker 1: All Right, we have so much more to get to

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Speaker 1: before we do that. Let's let's talk about sleeping. Let's

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Speaker 1: talk about waking, actually, because that's really how you know

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Speaker 1: like that every single day. Shopbeam dot com, slash Jesse

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Speaker 1: Kelly gets you up to forty percent off.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back.

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Speaker 1: Well, Supreme Court screwed us again, shocker. They tend to

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Speaker 1: And I need somebody to make sense of this Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court thing for me. So there's only one place to turn,

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Speaker 1: like I always do, my friend Josh Hammer, host of

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Speaker 1: America on Trial, which I highly recommend you download. Josh, Okay, buddy,

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Speaker 1: help me understand Pow. The lower courts they decided some

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Speaker 1: We all anticipated the Supreme Court would say, get yourself

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Speaker 2: Didn't say that. Josh, tell me what's going on? All right?

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Speaker 11: So first of all, Jesse, you're totally right that this

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Speaker 8: Left wing activist hack.

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Speaker 11: Roberts conservative Supreme Court there. So, you know, the fact

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Speaker 11: is kind of psychologically that this judge is speaking the

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Speaker 11: way that he has about the United States Supreme Court,

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Speaker 11: at least in his pre judicial litigator life, which again

442
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Speaker 11: was just like six months ago. I mean, the fact

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Speaker 11: that the Chief Justice ruled the way he did in

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Speaker 11: this case, I just find completely remarkable because John Roberts

445
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Speaker 11: over and over again, Jesse going back for literally decades,

446
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Speaker 11: back to his first confirmation to the Court, I guess.

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Speaker 8: Twenty years ago.

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Speaker 11: Now, you know, the one thing that he cares about,

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Speaker 11: for better or for worse, is the perceived legitimacy of

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Speaker 11: the United States Supreme courts. Where you have a lower

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Speaker 11: court judge, amir Ale in this case, who is as

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Speaker 11: explicit as he is about trying to undermine the legitimacy,

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Speaker 11: it seems to me like the obvious thing to do

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Speaker 11: would be to swat him down and put him in

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Speaker 11: his place.

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Speaker 2: There.

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Speaker 11: After all, the United Supreme Court has the clenary absolute

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Speaker 11: power to stay any lower court ruling in the judiciary

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Speaker 11: that it wants to there But in this particular case,

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Speaker 11: John Roberts, nam Me Cony, Barrett, what they're basically saying

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Speaker 11: Jesse here is they're saying that because this was self

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Speaker 11: styled as a tro a temporary restraining order, that therefore

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Speaker 11: it is not necessarily ripe for their review. At that time,

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Speaker 11: they're basically waiting for a formal injunction, one of these

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Speaker 11: so called nationwide injunctions there, so they're basically trying to

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Speaker 11: kind of get out on a procedural leg But that's

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Speaker 11: not really how it works, because even though you're calling

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Speaker 11: this thing a tro there, when you continue to extend

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Speaker 11: the so called temporary restraining order, at some point, Jesse,

470
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Speaker 11: it ceases to be temporary at pot at some point

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Speaker 11: it ceases to be an injunction. You don't have to

472
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Speaker 11: be a lawyer to figure this out. You can just

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Speaker 11: have some basic common sense there. That's basically in part

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Speaker 11: what sam Alito says in his very livid and righteously

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Speaker 11: indignant descent, is it generally good rule of thumb when

476
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Speaker 11: it comes to Scotus watching Jesse. When you really take

477
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 11: off sam Alito, you're probably wrong because sam Alito gets

478
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Speaker 11: righteously indignant when he is correct, and he was correct

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Speaker 11: in this case there. So it's a major setback. It's

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Speaker 11: deeply unfortunate. But they still could do the right thing

481
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Speaker 11: when the appeal gets to them on the merits because again,

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Speaker 11: this was kind of a procedural, temporary restraining war type

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Speaker 11: thing there. Hopefully that day comes though sooner rather than later.

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Speaker 11: That's the big question at this.

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Speaker 1: Point, Josh, what's wrong with Amy Cony Barrett? And I

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Speaker 1: could ask the same question about Kavanaugh. Yes, I know

487
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Speaker 1: Kavanaugh happen to be on the right side of this one.

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Speaker 1: But our judges in general, I mean John Roberts, We've

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Speaker 1: all just basically been given up on John Roberts at

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Speaker 1: this point in time.

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Speaker 2: But that was our guy. Their people never do this.

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Speaker 2: Their people never do this to them.

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Speaker 1: They are reliably leftists every single time. Our people around well,

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Speaker 1: I'm not really sure about the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: How do we get how do we get these people?

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Speaker 11: Ammy Cony Barrett has been a tremendous disappointment. I mean

497
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Speaker 11: we should not mince words there. She's been a tremendous disappointment.

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Speaker 11: She was she was on the wrong side of the

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Speaker 11: Fisher case, the January sixth case. She joined an absolutely

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Speaker 11: abominable dissenting opinion. There By the way in that case,

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Speaker 11: the Fisher case, she was on the wrong side. Katanji

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Speaker 11: Brown Jackson happened to be on the correct side the

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Speaker 11: Katanji Brown Jackson the DEI Justice was literally, it was literally,

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Speaker 11: it was literally picked because she is a black woman.

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Speaker 11: She actually took the correct statutory interpretation stands in the

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Speaker 11: Fisher case, the January sixth j sixer case. There in

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Speaker 11: a way that Ammy Cony Barrett's not the mind just

508
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Speaker 11: totally reels at this stuff.

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Speaker 2: There.

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Speaker 11: Ammiy Coney Barrett actually was on the wrong side of

511
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Speaker 11: another case at the Supreme Corps just last week. It

512
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Speaker 11: was an EPA case out of out of San Francisco, California.

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Speaker 11: She sided with the liberals there. I don't really know

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Speaker 11: exactly what is what her problem is. I mean, I

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Speaker 11: will say this, Amy Coney Barrett did not have much

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Speaker 11: of a track record. If you go back there, she

517
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Speaker 11: was an academic. She was a constitutional law professor in

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Speaker 11: Notre Dame for about a decade decad and a half.

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Speaker 11: And if I'm being very very candid and bluntier, she

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Speaker 11: was not even a particularly prolific law professor. If you

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Speaker 11: go back and actually look at the at the scholarship

522
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Speaker 11: that she published, it was kind of few and far between.

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Speaker 11: She was not a particularly prolific writer, and that which

524
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 11: she published was not exactly kind of blazing stuff. It

525
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 11: was pretty run of the Mill Scholarship. Amy Cony Barrett

526
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 11: also barely served on the Seventh Circuit. She was only

527
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Speaker 11: on the Seventh Circuit Court Appeals for a year and

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Speaker 11: a half, two years before she was elevated to the

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Speaker 11: Supreme Court. Here's my take on amy Cony Barrett above all, Jesse,

530
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Speaker 11: here's what happened here. I think you'll probably recall this.

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Speaker 11: Back when she was nominated to the Seventh Circuit Bear,

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Speaker 11: there was that infamous viral clip with Dianne Feinstein, the

533
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Speaker 11: Late Center from California, saying the dogma lives loudly within you,

534
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Speaker 11: which was an abhorrum thing to say, wreaking of anti

535
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:40,120
Speaker 11: Catholic bigotry, anti religious sentiment in general there. But because

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Speaker 11: Dianne Feinstein chose to say that to this clearly religiously

537
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 11: Catholic judge at that point there, Amy Cony Barrett became

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Speaker 11: a folk hero for people on the right. And I

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00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 11: think we basically let this viral moment then guide us

540
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Speaker 11: after Ginsburg passed away two years later in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 11: we basically let Diane Feinstein pick our Supreme Court justice.

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Speaker 8: Is essentially what I'm saying there.

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Speaker 11: Because of this stupid viral exchange back from her Seventh

544
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 11: Circuit confirmation hearing about how the dog mall lives loudly

545
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Speaker 11: within you. But if we had done the homework and

546
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 11: done the research there, we would have seen that she's

547
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,880
Speaker 11: kind of a middling academic back in Notre Dame there

548
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 11: who had an okay track record on the Seventh Circuit.

549
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 11: Nothing particularly exemplary there. Look, she's still young in her career. Okay,

550
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,959
Speaker 11: if we're being a little fair, I guess she's been

551
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 11: there for about four and a half years. I mean

552
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 11: it's not that young, but I mean things could change.

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Speaker 11: I'm not going to say I'm optimistic because I'm not there,

554
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 11: but you're right the right to The Republican Party has

555
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 11: a massive, massive problem on its hands here when it

556
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 11: comes to picking justice in a way that the left

557
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 11: simply does not have. It's a topic that I've written

558
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 11: a lot about over the USSE. I'm very passionate about

559
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,719
Speaker 11: this there. The number one thing we have to do

560
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 11: is just do the reading. I mean, actually do the homework.

561
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Speaker 11: Make sure we have a clear, discernible track record. We

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00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 11: have to know exactly what we're going to get when

563
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 11: it comes to these judicial nominees. Another big thing that

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00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 11: I'm passionate about. They need to convince us that they

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00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 11: are eager and willing to aggressively change course at the

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00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 11: night at the US Supreme Court. So there are various

567
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 11: procedural points along Scotti's procedure that you can basically choose

568
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 11: to be timid. So, for instance, you can you can

569
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 11: choose not to vote to grant sert and to hear

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00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 11: a case. You can choose to dismiss a case on

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00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 11: Article three standing grounds. You can choose to punt on

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00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 11: a case because of starry decisive precedents. Any Cody Barrett,

573
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 11: by the way, does all three of those things there.

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Speaker 11: But I want to see a judge who's gonna grant

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00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 11: CRT in the hard cases, who's gonna over term those

576
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 11: flawed precedents, starry a decison Alex sam who's not gonna

577
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 11: find some stupid Article three standing escape hatch kind of

578
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 11: like what they did in the Murphy versus Missouri case,

579
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 11: the big Tech case last summer, where Barrett and Kavanaugh

580
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 11: decided to go out on this stupid standing gargment there.

581
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 11: So that's what I'm looking for. I'm hoping to see

582
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 11: better results this time around. Neil Gors's. For what it's worth,

583
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 11: he's a little bit better than Cavin on Amm Quinnen Barrett.

584
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 11: He's still not amazing, but he's better than those two there.

585
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 11: But we need more Clarence Thomas's and more Sam Alito's,

586
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 11: not Ammy Coney Barrett's.

587
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 2: Gosh, we do.

588
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: Why can't we just clone Clarence Thomas a couple of times? Gosh,

589
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: that would be wonderful. Okay, Josh, let's shift gears from

590
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 1: all this stuff.

591
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 2: The Epstein stuff.

592
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Speaker 1: Has people up in arms every single day, and I

593
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: understand why they're up in arms. I want all the

594
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: criminals to be brought to justice as well. But I

595
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: also I've explained to my audience many times, there are

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Speaker 1: legal concerns here that that that make it not quite

597
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: as simple as just throwing something onto Twitter. Right, just

598
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 1: because somebody flew on Jeffrey Epstein's private jet doesn't make

599
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: them some kind of child trafficking monster.

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Speaker 2: So explain what you think is going on with.

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Speaker 11: All this, Right, So, there's a lot and that that

602
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 11: cannot necessarily be easily redacted. I mean, there are there

603
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 11: are genuine privacy concerns when it comes to the kind

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Speaker 11: people that you described there, but more more, more generally speaking, there,

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00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 11: you know, if you were, if you were a witness,

606
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Speaker 11: if you want, if you if you decide to turn

607
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 11: state evidence there, and you and you took some sort

608
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 11: of amun needs yell whereby you had your privacy shielded

609
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 11: and protection for cooperating with federal or in this case,

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Speaker 11: state prosecutors in Palm Beach County, Florida. There's all sorts

611
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 11: of re is why it's not just as easy as

612
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 11: kind of snapping her fingers and flipping a switch and

613
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 11: getting all the names out there there.

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00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 8: Jesse.

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Speaker 11: My candid take on what happened here is I think

616
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 11: that Donald Trump probably over promised and he set himself

617
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 11: up for under delivering there.

618
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 8: He talked a big game.

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Speaker 11: About this on the campaign trail there, but there's frankly,

620
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 11: there's not a whole lot of goods at this point

621
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Speaker 11: that can be divulged to the public in unredacted fashion there.

622
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 11: So we kind of put pam Bondi in cash battel

623
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 11: in a potentially difficult place.

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00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 8: Again, We'll see what happens.

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Speaker 11: I mean, maybe some files can actually still do adaptant

626
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 11: see the light of day there, But I'm not sure

627
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 11: exactly how much wiggle room Pam Bondi and Cash Ptel

628
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 11: actually have at this point.

629
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Speaker 1: Josh, I can't let you go without asking about your book,

630
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: Israel and Civilization.

631
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 2: Of course, it's coming out soon. Do you think you have.

632
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: A snowballs chance in hell of surpassing the Anti Communist Manifesto,

633
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: one of the greatest novels ever.

634
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 11: Written, Jesse, I would be honored to be even in

635
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 11: the same category, my friends, as the Anti Communist Manifesto.

636
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 8: There, you know, you know, I mean, I.

637
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 11: Don't think the New York Times bestseller lists and necessarily

638
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 11: looking at people like Jesse Kelly or Josh Hammer and

639
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 11: salivating and putting them on the best at list. I

640
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 11: hope I'm wrong about that, by the way, there obviously,

641
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 11: but look, I mean, I mean, we're generally Jesse, I'm

642
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,479
Speaker 11: very excited about this book. It comes out in March eighteenth.

643
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 11: To make sure to pre order if you have not

644
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 11: already done so. Of course, Israel and Civilization the Fate

645
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 11: of the Jewish Nation, the descine in the West, calling,

646
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 11: ultimately Jesse for a Jewish Christian nationalist biblical alliance to

647
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 11: defeat the forces of wokeism. Islamism and global neoliberalism a

648
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 11: rather timely argument.

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Speaker 8: If I don't say so myself, I think it.

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Speaker 2: My friend.

651
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure it will do quite well. Israel in Civilization.

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00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: Go order Josh's book. You here all smarty, is Josh

653
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: my brother?

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Speaker 2: Thank you? Appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: All right, It'll probably outsell mine. I'm mad about that.

656
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Speaker 1: I'm not mad about Pure Talk though. You See, I

657
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: may not have any money coming in from book sales,

658
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Speaker 1: but I pay half of what I used to pay

659
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Speaker 1: it for my cell phone. So that's something. See, we

660
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Speaker 1: had Team Mobile, four lines, me the boys. We paid

661
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Speaker 1: a lot.

662
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Speaker 2: It was a lot. I was always just kind of

663
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Speaker 2: floored by it.

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Speaker 1: I think it was something like two hundred and forty

665
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Speaker 1: eight dollars something crazy a month, and.

666
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Speaker 2: Then I find out about Pure Talk.

667
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Speaker 1: Now, when I first found out about Pure Talk, I

668
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 1: found out it was the Patriotic Mobile Company. They's CEO

669
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Speaker 1: Vietnam veteran. That automatically, as you know, means so much

670
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Speaker 1: to me. So I started digging into it. When they

671
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Speaker 1: give back and they give back, they give back to veterans,

672
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Speaker 1: and then I find out I can pay way less

673
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Speaker 1: and they're on the same five g network. Why wouldn't

674
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: I switch? Why wouldn't you switch? Switch to pure Talk?

675
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: Keep your phone, keep your number or with a qualifying

676
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: purchase brand new iPhone fourteen so Samsung Galaxies, whatever you want,

677
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: puretalk dot com slash jessetv, We'll be back.

678
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Speaker 12: Proper role of scientists and a pandemic is to answer

679
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Speaker 12: basic questions that policymakers have about what the right policy

680
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Speaker 12: should be.

681
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Speaker 2: They're not.

682
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Speaker 12: Our role isn't to make decisions to say you shouldn't

683
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Speaker 12: be saying goodbye to your your your grandfather as he's

684
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Speaker 12: dying in a hospital. It shouldn't be to say you

685
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Speaker 12: can't have a funeral because it's too dangerous.

686
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Speaker 2: You should, you should?

687
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Speaker 12: The scientists say here's what the risks are, and then

688
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 12: you then you decide what the risks whether you take it.

689
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Speaker 12: The role of the scientists shouldn't be to say you

690
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Speaker 12: can't send your kids to school for two years.

691
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Speaker 2: That you can't.

692
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Speaker 12: Don't you should close hospitals so that they can't treat

693
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Speaker 12: heart attack patients, That you should not. That the role

694
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Speaker 12: of scientist should be to address those problems by giving

695
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Speaker 12: good data and then let people make the science should

696
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Speaker 12: be an engine for freedom, knowledge and freedom, not not

697
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Speaker 12: something where it stands on top of society and says

698
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Speaker 12: you must do this, this and this or else. It

699
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Speaker 12: shouldn't be pushing mandates for vaccines that have been like

700
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Speaker 12: like the co vaccines that were tested for a relative

701
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Speaker 12: short period of time. I took the COVID vaccine myself,

702
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Speaker 12: but I think that the mandates that many scientists push

703
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Speaker 12: have led to the lack of confidence that so many

704
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Speaker 12: of uch of the public has in science. If science

705
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Speaker 12: is a force for freedom and for knowledge, it will

706
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Speaker 12: have universal support. That's what the role of science is.

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Speaker 2: I love Jay.

708
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Speaker 1: I can't believe he's there. I'm so excited about it.

709
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Speaker 1: Joining me now Doctor Simone Gold, author of the book

710
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Speaker 1: Selective Persecution.

711
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Speaker 2: Doctor Jay is.

712
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Speaker 1: A friend friend of the show, and it does my

713
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Speaker 1: heart well to see him there, although I will admit

714
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Speaker 1: my blood pressure is going through the roof just reliving

715
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Speaker 1: all the evil crap that was done to us during

716
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Speaker 1: COVID in this country.

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, Jessie, thank you.

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Speaker 13: Yes, I'm friends with Jay as well, and I hadn't

719
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Speaker 13: seen it yet, so thank you. I'm glad to have

720
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 13: seen it. He's exactly right. If science is based on

721
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Speaker 13: good science, good facts, good information, and we present it

722
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Speaker 13: to people. Most people will love to follow those recommendations.

723
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Speaker 13: It will be very few who don't. But we didn't

724
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Speaker 13: see that during COVID. We saw inaccurate methodologies. We saw

725
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Speaker 13: rushed processes, and we saw forced hand, heavy decisions, heavy

726
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Speaker 13: hand on forcing people to do what the government wanted.

727
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Speaker 13: So I'm glad to hear them say all the opposite

728
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Speaker 13: of that, and the American people will much better serve

729
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Speaker 13: with doctor j. Boticharia as directing the Nah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they sure will. Doctor.

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Speaker 1: Can you help me understand in your own words, the

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Speaker 1: why about whatever you just said about all those things

733
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Speaker 1: you just said? Why were things rushed? Why was it

734
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Speaker 1: so different? I mean, why why did we turn so

735
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Speaker 1: tyrannical all of a sudden? Because prior to COVID, most Americans,

736
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Speaker 1: the vast majority, had such a high opinion of America's

737
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Speaker 1: medical institutions and doctors and things like that, and you

738
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Speaker 1: look at public opinion polls, now it's not good. Why

739
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: how did they blow it all so badly?

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Speaker 4: Thank you? That's such an important question.

741
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Speaker 13: So, first of all, yes, being a physician is a

742
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Speaker 13: very honorable thing to do with one's life. My father

743
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Speaker 13: was a doctor. Doctors all over the world, they go

744
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 13: on mission trips. We really just want to help people.

745
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Speaker 4: You really not.

746
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Speaker 13: Attracted to that as a profession if that's not your orientation.

747
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 13: So what has gone wrong in the medical system? We

748
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Speaker 13: have moved completely away from the.

749
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Speaker 4: Doctor patient relationship.

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Speaker 13: So I have noticed that really every year of being

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Speaker 13: a doctor in comparison to my father's time.

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Speaker 4: You know, I grew up with the dad.

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Speaker 13: I used to go with him to the hospitals and

754
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Speaker 13: the nursing homes, and we had an office in our house.

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Speaker 4: I know exactly how medicine used to be practiced. It

756
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Speaker 4: was very much the focus on the patient.

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Speaker 13: The patient would need something, or have a question, or

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Speaker 13: need some help, and my dad would be there for

759
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Speaker 13: the patient. That was the basis of the whole relationship.

760
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Speaker 13: And we've moved away from that year after year after year.

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Speaker 13: There's tremendous financial incentives to corporatize medicine because there's a

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Speaker 13: lot of money to be made by people who are

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Speaker 13: not doctors and people who are not patients. So we

764
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Speaker 13: started getting away from the doctor a small business owner,

765
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Speaker 13: and we made the doctor just an employee, just a widget.

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Speaker 4: And kind of a big machine.

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Speaker 13: I actually call it the medical industrial complex, which is

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Speaker 13: a combination of legacy healthcare like the big insurance companies

769
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Speaker 13: and big pharma. So that's really the legacy healthcare system.

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Speaker 13: And there's so much money to be made by people

771
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Speaker 13: all along the way that the doctor patient relationship has

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Speaker 13: really been lost, and actually for me as a doctor

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Speaker 13: is pretty heartbreaking.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 13: I fought this as long as I could. In the system.

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Speaker 13: I was very much an insider. I was working in

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Speaker 13: the ers for over twenty years, Board certified emergency physician,

778
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Speaker 13: and I saw the encroachment of the payers and the

779
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Speaker 13: Medicare and the policies. But I always do what I

780
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 13: needed to do for the patient in front of me, right,

781
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Speaker 13: I'd work around the system.

782
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Speaker 4: I'd find little cheats, little workarounds.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 13: But during COVID, the government made it impossible for me

785
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Speaker 13: to take care of the patient.

786
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Speaker 4: They made it impossible.

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Speaker 13: Specifically, the California Medical Board threatened me and all doctors

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Speaker 13: in California that if I prescribed early treatment medicine for

789
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Speaker 13: a patient, I could lose my doctor's license. This was

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Speaker 13: unheard of, unprecedented, totally illegal, outrageous, and as you know,

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Speaker 13: I'm a lawyer, and I really responded as a lawyer

792
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Speaker 13: would respond, and I said, no, hell no, you are

793
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Speaker 13: not going to tell me what I can and can't

794
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 13: do as a doctor. I am licensed as an individual.

795
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Speaker 13: We are not licensed as a corporation. We're licens as individuals.

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Speaker 13: And that was when I saw that the infrastructure for

797
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 13: medical tyranny was just totally embedded in our system right

798
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Speaker 13: because to be a doctor, I needed to have my

799
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Speaker 13: medical license, and the people given me my medical license

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Speaker 13: granted me my medical license, or state bureaucrats who were

801
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Speaker 13: telling me I couldn't actually practice. That was part of

802
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Speaker 13: the tyranny. Another part where the payers right Medicare. If

803
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 13: you had Medicare and you had went into the hospital

804
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 13: with COVID, you got the hospital got more money if

805
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Speaker 13: they put you on rem dis severe than if they

806
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Speaker 13: put you on ivermectin.

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Speaker 4: They actually got thousands of dollars more.

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Speaker 13: They couldn't give you ivermectin and not give you room

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Speaker 13: disavere and take all those extra payments. So Medicare policies

810
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Speaker 13: were set so the hospitals were being financially incentivized by

811
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Speaker 13: Medicare to do things that were not in the patient's interest.

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Speaker 4: And these are just some of the problems that you

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Speaker 4: know we face.

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Speaker 13: There was big pharma, legacy, media, the healthcare insurance in industry.

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Speaker 4: Really it's it's quite difficult.

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Speaker 13: So that is this is my mission, is to free

817
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Speaker 13: the patient from kind of the medical industrial complex.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of that complex, doctor Marty McCarey, hopefully our

819
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Speaker 1: new head of the FDA here he was, do.

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Speaker 13: You think we need to evaluate the people on the

821
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Speaker 13: committees or see whether they get royalties, or.

822
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Speaker 5: See whether or not there are a conflict of interest

823
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Speaker 5: for the people making these decisions.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I do, Senator.

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Speaker 14: We need to review the ethics policy because people see

826
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Speaker 14: things that appear to be a cozy relationship between industry

827
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Speaker 14: and the regulators that are supposed to be regulating the products. Now,

828
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Speaker 14: I want American companies to thrive. I want life sciences

829
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Speaker 14: companies to thrive, but we need to call balls and

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Speaker 14: strikes and to keep that independent scientific review process free

831
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Speaker 14: of any conflicts. So I do think it deserves a.

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Speaker 2: Love doctor the FDA.

833
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Speaker 1: How much work can doctor Marty do because he's got

834
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: a whole spider web to untangle.

835
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Speaker 2: You touched on some of it.

836
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Speaker 13: Already there's there's so much to do at the FDA.

837
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Speaker 13: I want to orient your your viewers and you to

838
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 13: kind of a big way to look at it. So

839
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Speaker 13: during COVID, one of the ways I knew that the

840
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 13: government was lying is they were saying that this safe drug, hydroxychloroquin,

841
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 13: wasn't safe now and they were saying that it wasn't effective.

842
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 13: So the FDA was in the business of safety and efficacy,

843
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 13: and I submit to you they should not be in

844
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Speaker 13: the efficacy business.

845
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 4: That safety is the only business.

846
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 13: The FDA should be, And the FDA should have the

847
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Speaker 13: right to say this drug can't come to an American

848
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Speaker 13: market unless we deem it safe. I think that's a

849
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 13: valid role for an honest government. What is not valid

850
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Speaker 13: for the government is to put itself on a scale.

851
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Speaker 4: Of what is effective.

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00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 13: It turned out the government was incentivized by big pharma

853
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 13: to say hydroxychlorquin wasn't effective. So when they started talking

854
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:32,760
Speaker 13: about that, people were listening.

855
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 4: It happened to be false, but.

856
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Speaker 13: They were suppressing us from bringing the data or to

857
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Speaker 13: that it was effective. But if we took a step

858
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 13: back and the FDA wasn't allowed to even comment on efficacy,

859
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 13: but only on safety. That in and of itself would

860
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 13: be a huge improvement. I don't need a nanny state

861
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Speaker 13: deciding for me what's most effective.

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Speaker 4: I'd rather either do the research.

863
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Speaker 13: Myself or find an honest doctor who can help me

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Speaker 13: do that.

865
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Speaker 4: When they are given.

866
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Speaker 13: The permission to say this is effective or that's not effective,

867
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 13: this is what we run into trouble. This is why

868
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 13: inexpensive treatments are often not being released to the public.

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00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 13: I rem actin fem bendesol, the bendozol. Those things appear

870
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 13: and laatrel appear to be effective for cancer treatments, But

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00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 13: you have any FDA say, oh, it's not affected.

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Speaker 4: I'm not interested.

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Speaker 13: I'm not interested in the FDA's dependent on efficacy. I

874
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 13: really hope doctor Mackerie just looks at it from that

875
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Speaker 13: position that the FDA, the government should not be in

876
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Speaker 13: that business. Let the free market decide what's effective.

877
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Speaker 4: Isn't that an interesting idea?

878
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Speaker 2: Do you do you view it?

879
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Speaker 1: Obviously it's a conflict of interest, But how do we

880
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Speaker 1: get big farmer reps off of the FDA? You know,

881
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Speaker 1: it's this endless tunnel back and forth. Will they'll leave

882
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 1: this and they'll go there that they'll come back here.

883
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: It's this whole ugly system where everybody's incentivized to just

884
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Speaker 1: take care of the big farmer companies.

885
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Speaker 2: Can we break that up?

886
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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 13: This is a really difficult problem because people work for

888
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Speaker 13: the FDA, and then they leave the FDA position, and

889
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 13: then they go work for big pharma, and they know

890
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Speaker 13: that in advance when there's sitting.

891
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Speaker 4: In their FDA jobs. So a lot of people left.

892
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Speaker 13: As Steve Han is the one I remember the most.

893
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Speaker 13: He left the Trump administration. He then went on to

894
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Speaker 13: become the head of the financial arm of Maderna and another.

895
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Speaker 13: This just happens all the time. This is called regulatory capture,

896
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Speaker 13: where the big pharma industry is capturing or controlling the

897
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Speaker 13: regulatory agency that's supposed to be supervising it. It's a huge,

898
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Speaker 13: huge problem, you know.

899
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Speaker 4: Listen.

900
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Speaker 13: Bobby Kennedy is very aware of this as a problem.

901
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Speaker 13: This was a big subject in his book, So.

902
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Speaker 4: He knows of the problem.

903
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Speaker 13: And we hope for the best we have the right

904
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Speaker 13: leadership to try to unwind this regulatory capture, and lepe

905
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Speaker 13: Let's hope we do.

906
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Speaker 1: We balked the gold. You were awesome come back soon.

907
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Speaker 1: I appreciate you very much. Lady was awesome. All right,

908
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Speaker 1: light the moon.

909
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Speaker 2: Thanks. All right, it is time to lighten my mood.

910
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Speaker 1: And very little lightens my mood like waking up every

911
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Speaker 1: day and finding out which new and horrific way Jasmine

912
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Speaker 1: Crockett chose to embarrass the Democrat Party with here. She

913
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Speaker 1: was talking about Trump sending black people back to the fields,

914
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Speaker 1: and as they.

915
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Speaker 15: Have decided to go after immigrants and these and things

916
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Speaker 15: like that, and they've said, oh, they taken your black jobs,

917
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Speaker 15: they taken your black jobs. Not really, they are obviously

918
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Speaker 15: jobs that they want us to go back to, such

919
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Speaker 15: as work in the fields.

920
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Speaker 4: All right.

921
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Speaker 15: Those immigrants that come into our country, they work the fields,

922
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Speaker 15: something that we ain't done.

923
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Speaker 4: In a long time.

924
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Speaker 15: And clearly he is trying to make us go back

925
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Speaker 15: to the fields.

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Speaker 1: She continues to write the gop ads for them, and Jasmine.

927
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Speaker 2: I'm behind you, all right, I see them all

928
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Speaker 7: Past