1 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: Mr garbutsch Off teared down this wall. Either beer with 2 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: us or you were with the terrorists. If you've got 3 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: healthcare already, then you can keep your plan. If you're 4 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: satisfied with it is not President, take it to a bank. Together. 5 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: We will make America great again. We'll never sharender. It's 6 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: what you've been waiting for all day. Buck Sexton with 7 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: America Now, join the conversation called Buck toll free at 8 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: eight four four nine hundred Buck. That's eight four four 9 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: nine hundred to eight to five the future of talk radio, 10 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton, Beam Buck, Welcome to the Freedom Huked. We 11 00:00:55,720 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: have a lot to get to today, including updates on 12 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 1: trump feud with the Press, of the wildfires in our forest, 13 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: fires in uh in California. We have some experts joining 14 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: talk to us about that later on the show. Um 15 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: more on the Weinstein fallout, the debacle from all that. 16 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 1: But first, he got President Trump live right now in Pennsylvania, Littletown, 17 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania talking about taxes. We'll just go to that for 18 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: a moment and I'll give you a summary of what 19 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 1: he said. Go for made in America, made in the USA. 20 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: Seems to be hi, Jeffrey, seems the great. Jeffrey Lord, 21 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: he was on fake news CNN for a long time. 22 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: He was one of my sources. Thank you Jeffrey for 23 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: being head. That's a great honor. Thank you the president 24 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 1: from talking about a good man. And second, but giving 25 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: so many countries a tremendous advantage over us. If you 26 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: look at China, Atent and Mexico, all of these countries 27 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: had a lower tax rate than the United States. You 28 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: can't compete that way. It is time to end this 29 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: unfair disadvantage and to give American companies and workers the 30 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 1: level playing field they so richly deserved. Finally, or Trump 31 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: is uh Trump is rallying support for tax reform here 32 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: and Uh I was listening to speech before went on air, 33 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: and he got he got the rates he talked, talked 34 00:02:55,040 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: about the rates zero twelve thirty five individual rates. Also, 35 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: under Trump's preferred tax plan, you'd have twelve thousand dollars 36 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:11,119 Speaker 1: of completely untaxed money at the federal level, your first 37 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: twelve thousand dollars, and then if you're filing jointly as 38 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: a married couple, twenty four thousand dollars tax free. He said. Also, 39 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: the corporate tax rate would be coming down from uh 40 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: what occur. I think it's twenty five or thirty percent, 41 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: and forget thirties, a thirty percent, I think down to twenty. 42 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: They had said fifteen, but I think twenty is now 43 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: what they're going to be pushing for. From seven brackets 44 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: and the individual income tax to three, and uh, getting 45 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: rid of the estate tax, which particularly will help out 46 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: some family businesses. And taxes can be done on a 47 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: single piece of paper, he says, I mean those are 48 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: the broad strokes, and then you get all of the 49 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: encouraging signs to the market, and this will increase hiring 50 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: and and put more money in your pocket or middle 51 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: lost families. The Trump administration is saying it should be 52 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: a few thousand dollars. I think in the few thousand 53 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: dollars of extra income in their pocket, bigger paychecks. He 54 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: is saying, nothing gets done in America without the hard 55 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: working men and women of the trucking industry. Do we 56 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 1: agree with that? Thank you so much. Job you do 57 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: when your trucks are moving, America is growing. You agree? 58 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: That is why my administration has taken historic steps to 59 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: remove the barriers that have sloan you down. America first 60 00:04:52,800 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: means putting American trucker's first. Okay, that's actually not the 61 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: clip that I meant to play for you all. Sorry, 62 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: we're taking this quickly because it's just the speech has 63 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: just been under way. So can we get to lower 64 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: taxes for everybody? There? We go, Thank you, sir. We 65 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:14,239 Speaker 1: have stopped or eliminated more regulations in the last eight 66 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: months than any president has done during an entire term. 67 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:26,600 Speaker 1: It's not even close. So you get the idea. This 68 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: is a rally of of what Trump has been saying 69 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 1: for a long time. He's he's pushing for uh there 70 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: to be condensed rates, and look, tax reform could be 71 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 1: a really good thing. I think it would be a 72 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: really good thing if they get it through, and at 73 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: least we can take some solace in the fact that 74 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: this is policy. This would matter to you, would matter 75 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: to me. I would love to have a little more 76 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: money in my pocket. I think taxes are way too high. 77 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 1: I wish we could also get rid of the notion 78 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 1: of a middle class and just start talking about people 79 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: that are earning a ofv you know, forget about trying 80 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:06,239 Speaker 1: to put a you know, to create these three generalized 81 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: you know, conceptions of of what of where people fall 82 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: on the economic and socioeconomic spectrum. You know, there's now uh, 83 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: what is it lower income, which is all we used 84 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: to be referred to as people who are poor, but 85 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 1: you know, they will refer to lower income or low 86 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: income individuals or there's all these different now uh euphemisms. 87 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 1: And then you have mid middle class, which politicians love. 88 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,679 Speaker 1: They won't say, you won't say lower class because people 89 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: are not themselves. You know, it's not that they are 90 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 1: lower class, it's just lower income, right, But they're not 91 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: really sure on how we're supposed to refer to what 92 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: would be that that bottom segment that's always changing. You 93 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: have middle class, which is just what politicians love. Then 94 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: you have the upper class, which also you you'll notice, 95 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: is not really referred to anymore. Now it's high earners 96 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: or the one percent, depends on how Marxist and socialist 97 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: sounding you want to be, but high earners is the 98 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: more generally accepted term. But I don't like this. There's 99 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: something that feels to me a little class warfare, like 100 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: a little Marxist in in tone about breaking us all 101 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: down into you know, classes of of income. I think 102 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: they're just you could say that there are people who 103 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: are there are people who are struggling, there are people 104 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: who are earning a living, and there are people who 105 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: don't have to worry that much about money. That's a 106 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: better way to put it. So because you know, earning 107 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: x amount of dollars in Topeka is very different from 108 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: earning X amount of dollars in San Francisco is very 109 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: different from earning the same and you know, you go 110 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: all across the country, right, so it's just not as 111 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: as cut and dry as there's a number and the 112 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: number makes you fall into one class or another. Media 113 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:50,239 Speaker 1: loves this though, because by creating this kind of economic balkanization, 114 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: right by separating us based on how much money we 115 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: make here or there, they are able to play the 116 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: class warfare game, which is one one of the favorite. 117 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: I mean, after trying to capitalize on identity politics and 118 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: racial racial attention and racial issues that's central to Democrats, 119 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: then maybe it's sexism and xenophobia and class warfare is 120 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: right right in the same general area of centrality to 121 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: the Democratic Party's message. They love the class warfare game. 122 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: So Trump is saying he's gonna be giving and he's 123 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: turning this he's flipping the script on them here because 124 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: he's telling all people that are earning money across the country, 125 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: you're gonna get to keep more of your money. And 126 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 1: I think that's a great thing. Uh, we'll see if 127 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: it happens with Congress. You're gonna have some people in 128 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: Congress and this is gonna get very very irritating, at 129 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: least for me, very quickly. You're gonna have some members 130 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: of Congress that say, well, you can't cut taxes because 131 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: that's going to be expensive, as if projected tax receipts, 132 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: meaning the amount of money that the government is planning 133 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: to take from all of us is a sunk cost. 134 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: Right that that's money that's already it's almost like it's 135 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: already been spent, it's already been promised. No, now, I 136 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: I don't see it that way. I don't see my 137 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: money and I don't see my private property as as 138 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: merely what the government deigns to let me keep. And 139 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure you have the same uh same view. Democrats 140 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: take a very different position on this. You're supposed to 141 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: be thankful for whatever the government lets you have, because 142 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 1: really it's the government's money, it's not yours, it's almost 143 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: as though the federal government is giving you an allowance. Right, 144 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: whatever you earn, the government takes it's cut and then 145 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: it kicks a little to you. Well, I think the 146 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: way it should work is that you make money and 147 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: then you can kick a little bit to the government. 148 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: And it should be straightforward, it should be obvious, and 149 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: it should not be very much. That's that's what I think. 150 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: I am not going to uh bet the proverbial farm 151 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: that this is go going to work before the end 152 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:05,599 Speaker 1: of the year. We'll have to see. The Republican Congress 153 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: is I think, becoming a little too comfortable with their 154 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: inefficiency and their ineptitude. They figure that they can just 155 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: get all huffy and point the finger at Trump. But 156 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: I think Trump is on much more solid ground than 157 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: they are when looking at the issue of failure to 158 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: implement the agenda thus far. I think Congress is gonna 159 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: get a lot more blamed for that than Trumpets. Now, 160 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 1: taxes are not an issue that gets people necessarily to 161 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 1: click on the website, turn on the radio, or flip 162 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: on the TV, but it's important could have big impact 163 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: on the economy, especially dropping the corporate tax rate. When 164 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: it comes to employment and hiring, because what do what 165 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: do companies tend to do when they have more money 166 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 1: on the balance sheet, They expand they hire, they do 167 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 1: more with it. Um. These are all great things that 168 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: Trump is talking about with the tax code. I can't 169 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: assess how good it is, yeah, because we don't even 170 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: know what the Congress is gonna put forward as a bill. Right, 171 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: this is just Trump making the case. And you're gonna 172 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: have some holdouts in Congress. You're gonna have some conservatives 173 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,599 Speaker 1: you say that you can't run up the deficit or 174 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 1: you can't run up the debt or both. And that's 175 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: another part of the conversation that remains that remains to 176 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 1: be heard, which is when do we deal with the 177 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: fact that we're twenty trillion dollars in debt or do 178 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: we not? Do we just keep on running this thing out? 179 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I remember not long ago, there was this 180 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: whole movement, remember the Tea Party, people who were concerned 181 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 1: about government spending that's only gotten worse. We've done nothing 182 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: to deal with that problem. And that was a major 183 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: mobilization of the earning class of Americans you and me 184 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: who had just had enough of what the government was 185 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 1: doing and spending practices, and we should address this, we 186 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: should change it, but it's going to require tackling our expenditures. 187 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: The federal Government's gonna require some tough conversations. This is 188 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: where the Trump message and the populism I. I don't 189 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: know how this gets translated necessarily into reality. We all 190 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: want lower taxes great or at least you and I want. 191 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if not everybody wants lower. 192 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: People brag about how they wish they could pay Rich 193 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: people brag about how the wish they could pay more 194 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: in taxes, and then you point out to them that 195 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: they can, and then they don't. This happens all the time. Sure, 196 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: you can send the I R S. There's a thing 197 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: on your tax forms. You can send the I R 198 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: S as much money as you want. Go for it. 199 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: But we can have the same, uh, the same spending 200 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 1: on entitlements with no reforms to entitlements, and more spending 201 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: on the military and possibly a trillion dollars of infrastructure spending. 202 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: It depends on how that actually plays out with Trump 203 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: without wondering, at what point the system starts to break apart, 204 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: at what point the debt becomes crushing. When can we 205 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: no longer ignore it? I think if you had told 206 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: people a decade ago that would be a twenty trillion dollars, 207 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: they'd say that we had already been near the panic button. 208 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,839 Speaker 1: But nope, right now the market is sky the stock 209 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: market is sky high, Unemployment is super low, and people 210 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: feel good about the economy. People are being told at 211 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: least that it's good. There's still a lot that needs 212 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: to be done, and Trump speaks to those issues of 213 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: trade and manufacturing and and real wages and how they 214 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,839 Speaker 1: need to be rising. And you know, I don't think 215 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: there's nearly enough time spent on what quality of life 216 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: is for the dollars spent today versus what it was 217 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: years ago. But this is a case that as you 218 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: made as well or else, this is gonna get lost. 219 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:58,719 Speaker 1: This is gonna shatter on the shoals of Congress. Is 220 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: in transigence and inaptitude and uh self interesting stupidity. So 221 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: it's a I like the message from Trump. I like 222 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: what he's saying on all this, but has yet to 223 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: actually happen. Meanwhile, the media wants to talk about how 224 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: Trump wants to make thousands more, thousands of more nukes 225 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: and people are saying he's an more on I mean, 226 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: it's incredible this stuff with NBC today. You can't make 227 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: this up. Oh actually you can, because I think they did. 228 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't buy this. I will get into 229 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: this after the break. This is the much of the 230 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: morning news cycle today was spent on Trump saying something. 231 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: I just I don't believe it. They the media overplays 232 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: their hand with this stuff. They are willing to run 233 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: with stories that are so anti Trump that you just can't. 234 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: You can't believe it. It's literally unbelievable. And Trump called 235 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: them out for it. But then he said something about 236 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: pulling their license and you know, when should be and 237 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: I know you gotta the present allowed to say it, 238 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: but I'm not. I'm not in favor of that. I 239 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: don't We'll get into this. I need to give you 240 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: the details. Eight four eight four four to five. We 241 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: will be talking about those uh, those forest fires out 242 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: in California. We'll be getting into the latest on Weinstein. 243 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: I've got a story out of Poland having to do 244 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: with Islamophobia that I would like to discuss with doing 245 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: a bit. You've got a lot of show. Stay with 246 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: your help, and your voice. We will bring back we 247 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: will bring back our wealth, and for every citizen across 248 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: this land, we will bring back our great American dreams. 249 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: This is a great and proud state. I am so 250 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: honored to be with you tonight. Thank you, God bless you, 251 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: and God bless the United States America. Thank you for 252 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: having the President giving a rousing address on taxes, which 253 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: is not easy to do. But he sells this well. 254 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: He does a good job of explaining to everybody listening 255 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: how this will benefit them, because I think there are 256 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: concerns that tax reform is just to giveaway to the 257 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: donor class, to the Beltway bandits, to the d C 258 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: H well to those who write checks, to the DC 259 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: political class. So when he talks about more money in 260 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: the pockets of that, he says middle class. And so 261 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: it's fine, we'll say middle class, but I like to 262 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: say the earning class, those who are earning a living. 263 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: When he says more money in their pockets of that resonates. 264 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: When he says doing taxes on a single piece of paper, 265 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: that really resonates. I I hate tax time every year. 266 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: I mean the fact that I have to pay quarterly 267 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: because I do some work. That's not you know, that's 268 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: as a contractor, and it's just I absolutely despise dealing 269 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: with the I r asking the whole thing, and I 270 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,120 Speaker 1: really resent it. I do, and I'm sure a lot 271 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: of you do too. Um he oh, we spoke about regulations. 272 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: He spoke about regulations as well. Do we have that? 273 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: Do we have the sound on regulations? So we we 274 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 1: were literally getting mean that the speech was going on 275 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 1: right as we came on air here, so we try 276 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: to try to pull and record and then do a 277 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: little bit of analysis on the fly. Um so all right, 278 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: you know what, forget it he talked about regulations. Don't 279 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 1: but don't worry about the audio whatever, you know, I'll 280 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: do it live here with the regulations. What oh, that's 281 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 1: when we aired already. Okay, well, I'm glad we we've 282 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 1: we've had a little bit of a miss. We've had 283 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: a miscommunication here in the booth with where we are 284 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: on our clips. So instead of calling out I've got 285 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 1: the wrong clips here labeled, instead of doing that, we're 286 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: just gonna go with He says, it's gonna be a 287 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: less regulatory nonsense of deal. So that's good. This is 288 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,479 Speaker 1: all howful for the economy. There's a lot going on 289 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: here that I think if it gets done, because the 290 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: Republicans need points on the board. If this happens, good things, 291 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: good things. Uh. If it doesn't, what do we go 292 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: into the winter by, you know, February January February? If 293 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: there's no tax reform, I guess we're just gonna keep 294 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: on banging our heads against the wall and hoping that 295 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: something different happens. And I don't know this Republican kind. Look, 296 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 1: it took a while for Obamacare to get through when 297 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 1: Obama had the House in the Senate, I know, and 298 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: so big things can take time. It's still early in 299 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: the game. A tax reform. I mean, this, this really 300 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: shouldn't be. This shouldn't be so this is this should 301 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: be very doable. On the list, um, there's and m 302 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: m m m A sorry and Eminem not mm a. 303 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: There's an Eminem rap that was on the in the 304 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 1: BT Awards last night that I might get into here 305 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: in a few minutes just because, and then we'll talk 306 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: about the The Weinstein story is one of the most incredible, 307 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 1: uh bombshells to drop on the Democrat Party and its 308 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: fortunes here for quite a while, you know, since since 309 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: Hillary lost the election. I think this may be the 310 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: single story that is sending the most shockwaves, certainly through 311 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 1: Democrat Hollywood. UM So I want to get into some 312 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: of the continued fallout from that and more that we've 313 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 1: learned about it, and then later on the show, we'll 314 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: talk about what's going on with these out of control 315 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: fires in California. So much more. Stay with frankly disgusting 316 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 1: the way the press is able to write whatever they 317 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 1: want to write, and people should look into it. No, 318 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 1: I want to have absolutely perfectly maintained, which we are 319 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 1: in the process of doing, uh nuclear force. But when 320 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 1: they said I want ten times where we have right now, Uh, 321 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 1: it's totally unnecess as Sariah, believe me, because I know 322 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 1: I know what we have right now. So here's this story, 323 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 1: I mean, this is this is amazing. You had NBC 324 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: News reporting that Trump I wanted to make ten times 325 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: as many nuclear weapons as currently see in the U 326 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: s Arsenal, which would be incredibly expensive and uh not 327 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: necessary on a whole bunch of levels. And I believe 328 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: that the connection was that that is the conversation or 329 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: that when Trump said that, it was in reference to that. 330 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: That's why uh Rex Tiller Center, Secretary of State, allegedly 331 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 1: said that Trump was a moron. I mean, this is 332 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: just all this gossip posing as as a news that's 333 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: out there right now, and I just don't I don't 334 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: buy that. There are a lot of things that you 335 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 1: could tell me Trump said and I'd be like, yeah, 336 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: I believe, I would believe that he said that. I 337 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: do not believe that Trump was seriously putting forward that 338 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: he wants ten times as many nuclear weapons as we 339 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: currently have. So how NBC or y NBC would feel 340 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 1: compelled to report that is it is a question that, well, 341 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 1: we all have our ideas, right, but there certainly there's 342 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: certainly some pattern here of anti Trump hatred that comes 343 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 1: to mind as to what the justification, what the rationale 344 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: for that? Maybe from NBC's point of view, but Trump 345 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 1: assented that's all crap. Then he went on to talk 346 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: about maybe pulling their license, like, I think he's just 347 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 1: trolling people. Got and I have some friends who are 348 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 1: really smart, you know, honest and well intentioned conservatives who 349 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: when Trump says, maybe we should pull NBC's or maybe 350 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: we should consider pulling NBC's license for fake news. How however, 351 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 1: it was that he uh he stated that I'll see 352 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 1: if I can find the exact verbiage here in a second, 353 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 1: but it's something along those lines. He's not serious, and 354 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 1: you know, should the president be saying that? It doesn't 355 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: really bother me? Find the news I have on the 356 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: news media is so grotesque and this this is part 357 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 1: of the problem that they have, is that there's very little, 358 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: very little criticism of them, and when it comes to 359 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: their dishonesty, their partisanship, there's very little that's gonna be 360 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: too much for me. You know. I'm yeah, I'm not 361 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: gonna be okay with the president violently actually violating the 362 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: First Amendment and trying to shut down a news organization 363 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: or something, of course, but you know, saying stuff like 364 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 1: this just to get them a little a little riled up, 365 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: a little little on edge, I know, I find it entertaining. 366 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I should be more bothered by this that 367 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 1: I am as somebody who works in the media, But 368 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: I remember what it was like during the Obama years. 369 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 1: I knew what it was like when you had a 370 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: Democrat administration that could count on the entirety of the 371 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: media with a with a few exceptions that matter, basically 372 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: talk radio, Fox News, a couple of websites. That's it. 373 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:07,360 Speaker 1: You know, UM could count on everyone except for those 374 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 1: individuals and groups and UH and news organizations to come 375 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: to the president's aid all the time and to attack 376 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: his enemies all the time. And that left a really 377 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 1: bad taste in our in our mouths. That that left 378 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: us with a sense that this is a fixed a 379 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: fixed system, and a rigged game. And it is with 380 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: the media. So we see this with Trump today and 381 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,640 Speaker 1: while he won't while he's giving a speech on taxes, 382 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: and that should be a focus of the government. You know, 383 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: I don't think the government has to be a place 384 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:43,120 Speaker 1: where there's a lot of compelling oratory day to day. 385 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: I don't really care about the inner machinations of what's 386 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 1: going on in the House and the Senate. I just 387 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 1: want them to do stuff that's good. I would like 388 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 1: them to enact policies that are respectful of freedom of 389 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: the limitations of government as established by the Constitution, and 390 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: that respect private property and individual enterprise and individual rights. 391 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 1: That would be great. I don't really need them to 392 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 1: be talking about culture war issues in d c We 393 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: can handle most of that in the media. So I 394 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: would rather that something happens on tax reform than when 395 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 1: we continue to just spinning circles about say, I don't 396 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: know the NFL, for example. That's what we've done that 397 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: a lot lately. There's been a lot of talk about it. 398 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: And uh oh, I look at this. You have a 399 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 1: Fox updating us on the Menendez corruption trial, which I 400 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 1: will note I have not seen and this is just 401 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 1: per I'm speaking from the eye perspective. I have not 402 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: seen any coverage other than Fox of Menendez stuff. Now, 403 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure that ESPN, I mean not ESPN, gosh buck, 404 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure that CNN, although ESPN would like to cover 405 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: things like the Menendez trialit scenes these days. I'm sure 406 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: at CNN has done it here, their MSNBC has done 407 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: an here or there, but in a way that you know, 408 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: it's kind of like nothing really going, nothing really to 409 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 1: see here, but we're just checking the box. Yemen just trial. 410 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 1: Don't worry about it. Even though, as I've been telling you, 411 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 1: you know, he had the International Babe transport service going on, 412 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: funded by a ninety million dollar medicaid scheme. You would 413 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 1: think that there's a lot of story there, but they 414 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 1: don't touch that. They'd rather mock the president and say 415 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 1: that he wanted ten ten times as many nukes. I 416 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: do think that's fake news, and NBC can stand behind 417 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 1: it all day. But you have two things happening that 418 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: raises a lot of questions about well, I don't know, 419 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,439 Speaker 1: it's really just solidifying what we already know. I mean, 420 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: these aren't questions. These are questions that have been around 421 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: long time. We have a couple of things that are 422 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,360 Speaker 1: happening right now that go right to the heart of 423 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: the problem with the Democrat media and the narrative that 424 00:25:53,600 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 1: it is always forwarding, often through dishonest and uh, disgraceful means. 425 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: You have, on the one hand, this story about Trump, 426 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: which I just do not And as I was saying 427 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 1: to you, there's there are plenty of things that I've 428 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: seen reported about Trump saying, especially if it's in private, 429 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,959 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I think you probably said that sometimes 430 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,880 Speaker 1: rather colorful things, you know, sometimes things that I don't 431 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: even think I could repeat to you on air. Keep 432 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: in mind that even Dick Cheney, who was a very 433 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: buttoned up fellow, was known to use colorful salty language 434 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: on occasion, just ask Senator Pat Lahy of Vermont. But 435 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 1: Dick Cheney, Donald Trump, there are some limits to what 436 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 1: I could expect them to say. And I just don't 437 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 1: believe that Trump was saying ten times a news So 438 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 1: why would NBC report that? Because it hurts Trump? Even 439 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: if people don't believe it, nobody can disprove it. And 440 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: from NBC, NBC's perspective, damaging information about this presidency that 441 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 1: isn't really newsworthy, but does show your core audience that 442 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: you're part of the hashtag resistance. You go for that, 443 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: you do that, that's worthwhile. And I think that's the 444 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: that's the way that they line this thing up. That's 445 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: how they did. So you've got that. And then on 446 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: the other side of what they do not want to 447 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: report and do not want to talk about. This takes 448 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:23,679 Speaker 1: us to this Weinstein story, which I'm I knew that 449 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 1: when this first broke it was gonna get a lot 450 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: worse because the moment you have somebody coming out and uh, 451 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 1: one of the young women women who's a reporter. Uh, 452 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 1: his friends with many people that I know from the business, 453 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: and they all say that you know, she's they absolutely 454 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: that she's telling the truth. They know her personally, and uh, 455 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: that was one of the earliest stories I read about Weinstein. 456 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 1: But just based on those details, I was like, well, 457 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: this is gonna get much worse, because if he did that, 458 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 1: this is not this is not a one off or 459 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 1: a two off. This is how he operates. And there's 460 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 1: a day much control mode right now for many people 461 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 1: that we're using their connection to Harvey Weinstein for a 462 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 1: long time for their own purposes, mostly because in a 463 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: lot of those cases we're talking about individuals, whether politicians 464 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: or media Hollywood stars, but there's news media people that 465 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: are attached to Weinstein too, don't forget, and a lot 466 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: of big PR firms, as I've been saying, and lawyers 467 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,439 Speaker 1: and publishers and magazine authors. I mean, this guy was 468 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: really really plugged in and was was royalty on the left. 469 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 1: He was modern progressive royalty. That's what Harvey Weinstein was. 470 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: It's like a member of the progressive royal family, Helosa 471 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: the Royals. Now we see though, that there are people 472 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: that are making a big show of how much they 473 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: want nothing to do with him. A part of this 474 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: that I haven't seen discussed much is that I think 475 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: there is a recognition among some very successful actors and 476 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: some very successful old people that relied on Weinstein in 477 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: one way or another, that they don't want to believe 478 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 1: it they were created by a monster. And that's a 479 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: very real thing. They don't want to believe that their 480 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: success is attributable to somebody, even you know, even if 481 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: they didn't know and they had nothing specific to do 482 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 1: with this, they didn't want to believe that their success 483 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: was attributable to somebody who is so grotesque and dishonest 484 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: and predatory. And I mean, we could go on on 485 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: the adjectives here all day. I mean it's hard to 486 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: it is hard to even capture in descriptions how sick 487 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: this individual really was, and how much the media covered 488 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: forum and for so long, and to this point about 489 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: NBC to bring us full circle here on our on 490 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: our chat, uh, they're talking about Trump wanting ten times 491 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: as many nukes. The one hand, Trump says fake news. 492 00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: Trump tweets out, we need to look at their license. 493 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 1: But then on the other side, they don't want to 494 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: talk about what happened with Weinstein. They didn't want to 495 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: talk about it last summer when it was posed to them. 496 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: It was offered to them on a silver platter based 497 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: on the reporting that I'm reading by young Ronan Pharaoh. 498 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: Now you may recall Ronan Farrell was a actually known 499 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: probably none of you recall this. Let me let me 500 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: take that back for like a hot second. Ronan Farrell 501 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 1: was given a show in the afternoon and MSNBC, and 502 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: it would you would if you ever were channel surfing 503 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 1: and you saw a guy who looked like a looked 504 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: like a high school senior, had you know, escaped from 505 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, P class or something, and 506 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: they threw him on set and all all of a sudden, 507 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: he's his host did a show and he was like, hello, 508 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: I've read it Paraoh none of you know who I 509 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: have and none of you particularly care, but I have 510 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: a TV show now. Uh. It tanked, It bombed. It 511 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: was a bad show. He wasn't ready for Look, he 512 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: wasn't ready for it. So on the one hand, there's 513 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: the resentment that a lot of people in the business 514 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: field for a kid who didn't earn it. And I 515 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: can say it again, I think he was like twenty 516 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: five or twenty six when being given a TV show, 517 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: who has no TV experience and then just stinking up 518 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: the joint. But on the other hand, you know, I 519 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: kind of feel bad for him too, because it was 520 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: a disaster, and you know, it happened. It went exactly 521 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: how anybody who knows anything would expect it to go, 522 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: which is that if you have no TV skills or experience, 523 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: you're gonna do a bad job. And he did. But 524 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: he has written this piece for The New Yorker that 525 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 1: I mentioned yesterday on air that specifically cites three women 526 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: who claim Harvey Weinstein raped them. It is very very 527 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: serious stuff. Now, these are criminal allegations. This goes beyond 528 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: workplace missconduct that you get fired for. This is now 529 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: in the realm of people go to prison for a 530 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: long time for what Weinstein allegedly did. And MSNBC and NBC, 531 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: which owns MSNBC apparently didn't want to touch this. Here's 532 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: an exchange on the mat. I know, I'm amagine playing 533 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: Matt out clip on this show. You guys are like, really, 534 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: here's what the exchange was like between Ronan Pharaoh and 535 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: Rachel Maddow. Why did you end up reporting this story 536 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: for The New Yorker and not for NBC? News. Look, 537 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: you would have to ask NBC and NBC executives about 538 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: the details of that story. I'm not going to comment 539 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 1: on any news organizations story that they, um you know, 540 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: did or didn't run. Uh. I will say that over 541 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: many years, many news organizations have circled this story and 542 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: faced a great deal of pressure in doing so. And 543 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: there are now reports emerging publicly about the kinds of 544 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 1: pressure that news organizations facing this um and that is real. 545 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: And in the course of this reporting, I was threatened 546 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: with the lawsuit personally by Mr Weinstein. He's said NBC 547 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: was too chicken to do anything with the story. I 548 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: mean he wasn't. He didn't say that, but that's actually 549 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: what he's saying. Keep that in mind as we go 550 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 1: forward here that a major news organization that has both 551 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: a cable channel as well as you know, newsroom operations 552 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: news affiliates across the country was offered the the chance, 553 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: and I think a lot of people say had the obligation, 554 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: the the ethical obligation to report on this maniacal predator, 555 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: Harvey Weinstein, and they didn't do it. Don't tell me 556 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: it's because they're afraid of lawsuits. Okay, because I don't 557 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: buy it because they got plenty of lawyers and plenty 558 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 1: of money. They didn't do it because they didn't want 559 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: to do it, because I didn't want to take down Weinstein. 560 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: Because they knew that the photos would come out of 561 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 1: Weinstein with the Obama's and Weinstein with the Clintons, and 562 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 1: Obama's daughter going to work for There's a lot of 563 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: companies in America. Obama's daughter went to intern for Harvey Weinstein. 564 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: That's a level of power and cloud in the Democrat 565 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: Party that very few people can match. My friends that 566 00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: Harvey Weinstein. But the news organizations that are now running 567 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,959 Speaker 1: all these stories and now they're jumping on the bandwagon, 568 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: so many of them were just They weren't guilty of 569 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:11,839 Speaker 1: merely cowardice. They were also complicit because they didn't want 570 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: to They didn't want this to stop. They liked having 571 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: this guy on their side. They liked that the storyline 572 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,320 Speaker 1: was that he was just a powerful TV exactive anyway, 573 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: eight four buck eight four four to eight to five, 574 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,399 Speaker 1: we have much more and we will be right back. Well, 575 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 1: clearly people did know that there were allegations of Harvey's 576 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: behavior with women. It was an open secret in Hollywood 577 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 1: and in media circles. And you know, I was at 578 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: an events months back, right after President Obama left office 579 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: in which he gave a speech and the first person 580 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 1: I was really struck by this, The first person he 581 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 1: went over to Greek on the rope line was Harvey 582 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 1: Weinstein and and President Obama's daughter Malia intern for him, 583 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: and I as a reporter sort of knowing the rumors 584 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 1: and the gossip, was shocked, you know, knowing what's out 585 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: there that President Obama with legitimize Harvey Weinstein in that way. Nope, 586 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: shouldn't be shocked at all. And the pretense of being 587 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 1: shocked is is pretty preposterous because, as I was saying, 588 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: Weinstein was Democrat party royalty. He was a very very 589 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: respected powerful man in Democrats circles. Not respected because of 590 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 1: who he was as a person, but because of what 591 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 1: he would do for people, for politicians or movie stars, 592 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: for whomever, for authors. What one and something you must 593 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: keep in mind here is that it's not just the 594 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,800 Speaker 1: people in the movies, it's those who write articles. It's 595 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 1: the often bitter and feeling overlooked journalist class that Weinstein 596 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 1: was able to co opt and coerce because you could 597 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 1: be some journeyman writer for whatever publication and you know, okay, 598 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: you make that story go away on Weinstein on page six, 599 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,919 Speaker 1: He'll pick up your screenplay, her option, your book. Now 600 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 1: you've got money. Now you've got a Weinstein deal in production. 601 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 1: You know, whetherever gets made or not, you get to 602 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: sound like you're really cool. Right, just buy people off 603 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,800 Speaker 1: left and right. He could buy off the very people 604 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:18,840 Speaker 1: who had an ethical obligation to report on somebody this 605 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 1: powerful and connected doing what he was doing, which was 606 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 1: serial predation against women in his industry, with intent, with forethought, 607 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 1: And he bought off those very people. I mean, this 608 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: is the corruption here was just so widespread and now 609 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: they're all I can't believe the Obama Yeah, please care. 610 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:49,320 Speaker 1: Clinton's didn't care. Evelyn in North Carolina on w p T. 611 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 1: I how you doing, Evelyn? I wanted to talk about 612 00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about taxes. Yes, man, I'm right 613 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:07,440 Speaker 1: with you. I hate doing taxes. There's just too many forms, 614 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:11,360 Speaker 1: preparation and everything. In fact, Saturday, I'm going to my 615 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 1: accountants because I get these um what do you call them? 616 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 1: Every extensions every year, even though I'm getting a refund 617 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,720 Speaker 1: so I'm going over there Saturday to do my twenties 618 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: sixteen taxes. I can't wait. And I do hope we 619 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 1: get that shot form because that would be a blessing 620 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: to n are, be a blessing for all of us 621 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 1: avalon shields high. And thank you very much for calling 622 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 1: in UH a little more. Maybe we'll have a little 623 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,839 Speaker 1: more fun going after Hollywood here for all their hypocrisy, 624 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 1: got North Carolina. Welcome to freedom hut sir. Hello, Hello, Hey, 625 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 1: I'm a long time listener. I'm always to the Blaze 626 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:58,319 Speaker 1: and um uh. The issue I'm heaving with all this 627 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: is um not so much that um this guy has 628 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 1: done right or wrong, UM, but that you know, there 629 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:09,879 Speaker 1: hasn't been consideration and in other things that for example, UM, 630 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 1: you know, if you use, if you accept what this 631 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,760 Speaker 1: guy is telling you to um to do to advance 632 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 1: your career, you're just as guilty. So some of these 633 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 1: high profile actors or actress is coming out saying that 634 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 1: you know he did this to me too, they could 635 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 1: be just as much as fault because they accepted the 636 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 1: advance or they accepted the situation. Hold hold on, hold 637 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 1: on you you're saying, make it right or wrong? And 638 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 1: well when you say just as just as much as fault, 639 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 1: just as much as fault as as who I mean, 640 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,440 Speaker 1: no one says Weinstein is in a class by himself 641 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 1: here in terms of fault. Okay, so I'm missing I'm 642 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 1: trying to follow your Scott, But you're saying just as 643 00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:04,279 Speaker 1: much as fault as who um what um Weinstein? You 644 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 1: know if you well know. But I just I just 645 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 1: said that Weinstein's in a class by himself when it 646 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 1: comes to faults, as they understand that. Okay, so so 647 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 1: we do. You're saying we disagree on this point. No, 648 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 1: if he isn't a class by himself. But for example, 649 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:22,320 Speaker 1: in my career, if I take money to break the law, 650 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 1: then i'm a is just as fault as the person 651 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,960 Speaker 1: that offered me the money. Okay, but I think you're 652 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 1: misconstruing how these circumstances play out, right if you're and 653 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:36,400 Speaker 1: I'm also not clear, are you referring to like a 654 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 1: a Ben Affleck who's accused of being somebody who has 655 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 1: profited off of his relationship to Weinstein and was unwilling 656 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,840 Speaker 1: to a forward or you talking about women who accept 657 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:50,920 Speaker 1: the casting couch advance because in some cases these are 658 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,600 Speaker 1: women who if they don't accept they're being coerced because 659 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,280 Speaker 1: their word, their career will be destroyed. They won't have income, 660 00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 1: they won't be able to feed themselves, they won't have 661 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 1: a lively or maybe not even that. Maybe this started 662 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:07,440 Speaker 1: much earlier, you know, and they're not um. If you 663 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:11,359 Speaker 1: say a woman comes into the business right and she 664 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 1: just started, and she accepts that payment for whatever he 665 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:20,360 Speaker 1: may offer, she is just as much as fault and 666 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 1: that is her blame and not just his. She is 667 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 1: not just as much. Okay, so this you keep saying this, 668 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 1: and I'm telling you that I I strongly disagree with 669 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,440 Speaker 1: this analysis that she is not just as much at fault. 670 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:38,800 Speaker 1: She may have uh made an unfortunate choice to advance 671 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:42,840 Speaker 1: her career, but you keep this is not it's not, hey, 672 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,400 Speaker 1: the way that the the circumstances we're talking about, Scott, 673 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,239 Speaker 1: the circumstances that we're talking about are not people who 674 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 1: are approaching Harvey Weinstein and saying, hey, Harvey, I'll do 675 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 1: something for you if you do something for me. He 676 00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: is setting up meetings in hotel rooms with young women 677 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 1: and saying, you know, you better do this or else. 678 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 1: This is so this is not collusion, which I think 679 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 1: is what Scott was suggesting, or what what he's trying 680 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,240 Speaker 1: to get at. Uh. And and forget about the cases 681 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,840 Speaker 1: I mean or put aside, not forget, but put aside 682 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 1: for a moment, the cases described in the New Yorker, 683 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 1: which we're just criminal in nature. But I'm talking about 684 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 1: some of the other ones, were some of the other 685 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 1: ones that have come up. It's not collusion. It's coercion, 686 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,920 Speaker 1: meaning it's not a woman wants to work with Harvey 687 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 1: Weinstein to advance her career and she's doing for him 688 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 1: and he's doing for her. It's Harvey Weinstein sets it 689 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 1: up and makes them an offer in the sort of 690 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 1: godfather sense. They can refuse, right, you better do this 691 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 1: or else. So those who are advancing their careers because 692 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 1: of that, you can't hold that against them. I think 693 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:59,400 Speaker 1: they're haunted by that. Um. But there's the there the 694 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 1: other one. I'm talking about enablers and and those who 695 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 1: benefited and and criticize them. I'm talking about the you know, 696 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 1: the names are all out there now, but people talking 697 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 1: to Matt Damon, ben Affleck. Yeah, I'm trying to think, 698 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 1: you know, who else. I'm trying to think amy. Who 699 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 1: else has been named for some of the actors that 700 00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 1: were Oh, Lindsay. Look, we've got a clip actually of 701 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,839 Speaker 1: Lindsay Lohan, right, I mean she she she deleted it, right, 702 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 1: but here play, go ahead and play. I feel very 703 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,520 Speaker 1: bad for right now. I don't think it's where I 704 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 1: would cling on. I think Georgina needs to stakes fan 705 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 1: and be there for us. And he's never humed me 706 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 1: or did anything to me. We've done movie together, and 707 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 1: so I think everyone needs So there's Lindsay Lohan's look 708 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 1: has had plenty of I'm not that up on the 709 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 1: page six gossip stuff, but I know enough to know 710 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,320 Speaker 1: Lindsay Lohan's had a rough go for a while on 711 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 1: a whole bunch of a whole bunch of ways. Um, 712 00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:01,360 Speaker 1: so here's somebody who is ending up for Weinstein with 713 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,320 Speaker 1: all this information she deleted. It's a clue as she 714 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:04,480 Speaker 1: knows that you know, you don't want to be the 715 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 1: person standing up for Weinstein right now, And she's in 716 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 1: that category. I would put her. I don't know her, 717 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 1: but I'm just analyzing this from the outside. I would 718 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 1: put her in that category. If someone who doesn't want 719 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,720 Speaker 1: to believe that her career was helped along by a monster. 720 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,279 Speaker 1: She doesn't want to believe that. Another important note here 721 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 1: that when you look at his oh, I've done some 722 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 1: bad things, but I'm gonna go after the n r 723 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 1: A and you I didn't mention this on the show, 724 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 1: but he also sent out a kind of a desperate 725 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:39,759 Speaker 1: entreaty for help to other executives, and I think it 726 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 1: was people in the Weinstein Company, which is literally changing 727 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,400 Speaker 1: its name. And there's a lot of jokes on Twitter 728 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 1: right now about how you know what the name change 729 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 1: is gonna be not disgusting, perverted predator Incorporated. I mean, 730 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,280 Speaker 1: there's a lot of that out there right now. Um, 731 00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:01,880 Speaker 1: but you know, this is Harvey Weinstein coming out saying 732 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 1: this stuff initially about how he's going to go after 733 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 1: the n RA and he thought he was gonna he 734 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,799 Speaker 1: thought he was gonna be able to, uh, to beat this. 735 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:16,320 Speaker 1: That gives you a sense of how disconnected a well. Actually, 736 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 1: there's another way to look at this, which is he 737 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,799 Speaker 1: beat it. He beat it thus far, buck he beat 738 00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,360 Speaker 1: it every other time, and he did he made it 739 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 1: go away. You know, there are a lot of people 740 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:30,560 Speaker 1: who should be losing some sleep who wrote uh nasty 741 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:34,439 Speaker 1: articles about women that said something about Harvey Weinstein, who 742 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:38,319 Speaker 1: were part of the smear machine. But also we can 743 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:43,080 Speaker 1: draw very direct parallels between that activity of going to 744 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,960 Speaker 1: the media to do the dirty work of a powerful 745 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 1: person against women who are victims Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, 746 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:55,840 Speaker 1: that whole era as well, and all the all the 747 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,239 Speaker 1: accusers against him. This is why there, this is why 748 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,120 Speaker 1: even Hillary Clinton stands up and says women have a 749 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,240 Speaker 1: right to be believed and all that. It's just posturing, 750 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:07,160 Speaker 1: it's just grandstanding. And this is why feminism is unfortunately 751 00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 1: a sick, unfunny joke in this country. On the left, 752 00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:15,560 Speaker 1: it's just an excuse for Look if feminism is often 753 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 1: just an excuse for excuses and man hating and a 754 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:25,040 Speaker 1: lot of really destructive policies and behavior. Leftist feminism is 755 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,239 Speaker 1: not a good thing. It is not about it's not 756 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:31,520 Speaker 1: about equality. It is about separating people and and creating 757 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:35,399 Speaker 1: false narratives of oppression. And you know, I mean this 758 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:39,280 Speaker 1: is feminism is has gotten so intertwined with being anti family, 759 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 1: anti marriage, and pro abortion. That's really what feminism has 760 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:46,680 Speaker 1: become in this country, which is deeply unfortunate. But that's 761 00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,920 Speaker 1: what it is. But it's also full of hypocrites. It 762 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,359 Speaker 1: just used as a weapon against Conservatives, against Christians. That's 763 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,680 Speaker 1: what feminism has turned into. And that's why Hillary Clinton 764 00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,480 Speaker 1: all the rest of them are are so it's so blatant, 765 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:03,480 Speaker 1: it's so obvious that they are using it as a 766 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,799 Speaker 1: political weapon and not for any moral righteous purpose. They 767 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:10,560 Speaker 1: are self righteous, but they are not righteous. I should 768 00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:14,200 Speaker 1: know that this just broke on the hat to Drudge 769 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,000 Speaker 1: Report for putting this up exclusive. This is from the 770 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:21,000 Speaker 1: Daily Mail. Trump's Justice Department moves on Harvey Weinstein and 771 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,640 Speaker 1: orders FBI to open probe over fears he will quote 772 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:29,920 Speaker 1: do a Polanski. Uh, the FBI has opened an investigation 773 00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:34,080 Speaker 1: to Harvey Winston for alleged sex crimes. You have three 774 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:37,239 Speaker 1: women have come forward claiming the producer forced himself on 775 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:42,799 Speaker 1: them sexually. Uh wow, Okay, so now we've got a 776 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:49,480 Speaker 1: we've got a possible criminal case being looked into here 777 00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,160 Speaker 1: assuming this look it's the Daily Mail, But the Daily 778 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:53,600 Speaker 1: Mail is a huge site and knows a lot of 779 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,319 Speaker 1: does a lot of reporting. I know they also have 780 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,600 Speaker 1: plenty of you know, photos of Kim Kardashian up, but 781 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,840 Speaker 1: they they do a out of traffic and they have 782 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:08,279 Speaker 1: real reporters. Uh. It also mentions here that Roman Polanski, 783 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,399 Speaker 1: who played guilty to having sex with a thirteen year 784 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:15,919 Speaker 1: old girl in he has he fled the US and 785 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:21,200 Speaker 1: is still celebrated by many people in Hollywood. They're still 786 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:25,200 Speaker 1: okay with Roman Polanski. And I have one more thing, 787 00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,279 Speaker 1: and I'm sorry I've done a little more today of 788 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,040 Speaker 1: the wine ste discussion than nine ten to. We will 789 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:30,640 Speaker 1: just so you know, we are going to get into 790 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:36,719 Speaker 1: some expert uh discussion analysis of wildfires and what's going 791 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:44,920 Speaker 1: on California, because it's devastating, vast amounts of acreage, homes destroyed, 792 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,040 Speaker 1: people losing their lives in California right now. Wildfires are 793 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,239 Speaker 1: really scary when you I don't know much about them. 794 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,960 Speaker 1: I've been learning more and we will have some folks 795 00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:55,640 Speaker 1: on to talk to us about that coming up here. 796 00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,960 Speaker 1: And I'll also tell you about this story that ties 797 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,080 Speaker 1: in our La Pantois gushing from last weekend. So I'm 798 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:04,839 Speaker 1: gonna leave the Harvey Weinstein stuff behind here in just 799 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:09,359 Speaker 1: a moment um. In fact, you know what I will, Oh, well, 800 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,680 Speaker 1: I forgot I lost my train of thought there for 801 00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:15,120 Speaker 1: a moment. But oh yes, one more thing. There have 802 00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,839 Speaker 1: been whispers, not even whispers. That's not even fair to say. 803 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 1: There have been some stories, my friends. But I was 804 00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:26,120 Speaker 1: right yesterday I said Epstein. Epstein is the billionaire pedophile, 805 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,799 Speaker 1: convicted pedophile who Bill Clinton used to fly around on 806 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:33,160 Speaker 1: his private jet. And this guy was a pedophile and 807 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,719 Speaker 1: there was all I mean, that is a story the 808 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,919 Speaker 1: media has never wanted to touch. And yet it's out there. 809 00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,640 Speaker 1: The facts are there, and there's pedophile island, right, I mean, 810 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,839 Speaker 1: there was all this and they didn't want to touch 811 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:51,160 Speaker 1: this going into and he was a friend, a personal 812 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,919 Speaker 1: friend of Bill Clinton. I think he was guilty, found 813 00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,680 Speaker 1: guilty not just being a pedophile, but also paying an 814 00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:01,120 Speaker 1: underage girl to have sex with them. Of there have 815 00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:06,480 Speaker 1: been stories for a while that in Hollywood there are 816 00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:14,200 Speaker 1: predators who are going after underage underage you know, people, actors, actresses, 817 00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,160 Speaker 1: and you've heard these stories. They've they've been talked about, 818 00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:18,919 Speaker 1: and then they disappear very quickly. They've been talked about, 819 00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:23,080 Speaker 1: then they disappear very quickly. Given what we have found 820 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:27,200 Speaker 1: out about Weinstein and how it exposes the suppression of 821 00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:31,439 Speaker 1: information that the Democrat and media complex will engage in. 822 00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,520 Speaker 1: I have to say that there is that we have 823 00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,359 Speaker 1: we we we need to have a real look back 824 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,040 Speaker 1: at any of this reporting that was out there about 825 00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:45,080 Speaker 1: very high level and I will not name names because 826 00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:50,040 Speaker 1: this is not verified, but very high level Hollywood executives 827 00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:55,600 Speaker 1: who have been, if not reported, at least rumored to 828 00:49:55,680 --> 00:50:02,399 Speaker 1: have been engaged in serial pedophile activity. I don't think 829 00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,840 Speaker 1: we can just discount that, and I think that we 830 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:06,399 Speaker 1: have a lot of people in the media were way 831 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,520 Speaker 1: too quick to just turn the other way on that 832 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,160 Speaker 1: given what we saw going on. And look Weinstein so far, 833 00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:17,000 Speaker 1: it's we haven't seen that specific allegation and that has 834 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,640 Speaker 1: not been out there with Weinstein, to be fair to 835 00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:23,800 Speaker 1: the case. But there are other instances of individuals in 836 00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:27,480 Speaker 1: Hollywood that people have said there's there's pedophile stuff going 837 00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,719 Speaker 1: on there, and that I think you have to look 838 00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:32,480 Speaker 1: at that now in light of what we in light 839 00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,759 Speaker 1: of how dishonest the media is and what it will 840 00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:38,759 Speaker 1: and will not try to cover when it comes to Hollywood. 841 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:44,279 Speaker 1: This this requires a second look, um and and I 842 00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:46,319 Speaker 1: will will keep an eye on that here as it goes. 843 00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:47,680 Speaker 1: For so I think people are gonna are starting to 844 00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:51,000 Speaker 1: say you know what this, this is not, this is 845 00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:54,759 Speaker 1: not okay, that the media was turning a blind out 846 00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:59,520 Speaker 1: of this, And it would be horrific beyond words if 847 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:04,560 Speaker 1: in fact, media was covering up for um pedophile activity 848 00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,640 Speaker 1: in Hollywood. And look at what look at what wine 849 00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,080 Speaker 1: Stein was doing. How far a leap is it really 850 00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:14,680 Speaker 1: that somebody else, some other producer was engaged in criminal 851 00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,359 Speaker 1: activity of that kind. So I just wanted to note 852 00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,920 Speaker 1: that that's that's floating around there, and I that would 853 00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,440 Speaker 1: it would not surprise me if there was a major 854 00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,000 Speaker 1: story that broke on that in the next three to 855 00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:27,880 Speaker 1: six months. It might not be right away, but just 856 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,919 Speaker 1: remember I said it, I wouldn't be surprised some big 857 00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,239 Speaker 1: people in Hollywood involved. Um, all right, we got hit 858 00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,120 Speaker 1: a break. We'll talk about some other stuff, including wildfires 859 00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,320 Speaker 1: in California and much more. So stay with me, a 860 00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:45,840 Speaker 1: welcome back to the freedom Hunt. Um I I want 861 00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,040 Speaker 1: to get to a call here. We got Vicky in 862 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:53,520 Speaker 1: West Virginia on w w V A, Hey Vicky, Hi Buck, 863 00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:57,200 Speaker 1: I am so tired of hearing about this sex thing, 864 00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:01,719 Speaker 1: not not you, just as everybody's uproar. Well, it's been 865 00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,680 Speaker 1: a joke in Hollywood for a long long time. Everybody 866 00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,719 Speaker 1: knew about it. And to me, these women they saw 867 00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,960 Speaker 1: the price of fame, they decided to take it, and 868 00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:14,800 Speaker 1: now they want to complain about it. I'm sorry this second. 869 00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,440 Speaker 1: Hold hold on, hold on, Hold on a second, Vickie, 870 00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,839 Speaker 1: hold on a second. A lot of these women are 871 00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:23,840 Speaker 1: just victims who didn't who didn't accept this, uh, this 872 00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,400 Speaker 1: proposition or whateveryone. I mean, look, there's a lot of 873 00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:30,040 Speaker 1: different cases. In some it was an aggressive advance, and 874 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:34,560 Speaker 1: some there are allegations of rape. So you know, it's 875 00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,879 Speaker 1: not clear. You know, we gotta look at each specific case. 876 00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,040 Speaker 1: But a lot of these women were just straight up victims. 877 00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:46,919 Speaker 1: They didn't profit from this at all. That that might 878 00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,279 Speaker 1: be true. That might be true, but that is the 879 00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:54,200 Speaker 1: allegation coming out. The actress is coming out and saying 880 00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:57,319 Speaker 1: stuff they all knew. I mean, everybody in Hollywood knew. 881 00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,520 Speaker 1: But you do you do understand Vicky that, I mean, 882 00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,320 Speaker 1: I'm not everybody in Hollywood in Hollywood, new right. I 883 00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:08,319 Speaker 1: mean a lot of people knew. But also I think, um, well, 884 00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,440 Speaker 1: they're they're trying to bring I'll get to this in 885 00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,080 Speaker 1: a second. Now, they're trying to bring concerns in this 886 00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,720 Speaker 1: as well. By the way, Um, but you know, Vicky, 887 00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,360 Speaker 1: it's important to keep in mind that that Weinstein was 888 00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,640 Speaker 1: not This is not just a producer, right you You 889 00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,160 Speaker 1: get that. This is a guy with a lot of 890 00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,320 Speaker 1: He's a very powerful individual with a lot of ties. 891 00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:27,880 Speaker 1: This is a public interest story. It's not just like 892 00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:32,240 Speaker 1: some guy no one's ever heard, ever cares about. Okay, 893 00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:35,759 Speaker 1: all right, fair enough, thank you, Vicky. Um so, oh, 894 00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:42,799 Speaker 1: let me uh get to Johnny. Uh, Johnny in Mississippi 895 00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:49,080 Speaker 1: on w BV. Hey Johnny. Oh, well, we're too early 896 00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:50,640 Speaker 1: on that one. My bad. Sorry, I thought I thought 897 00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:54,120 Speaker 1: we had Johnny up. All right, Um, we had. I 898 00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,600 Speaker 1: was gonna tell you about the Lepanto thing, but that 899 00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:58,839 Speaker 1: might actually I think I can do that, Yes I can. 900 00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:02,000 Speaker 1: Let's do that. There's a total total switch here. But 901 00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:08,080 Speaker 1: since I mentioned to you recently the Battle of Lepanto 902 00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:14,960 Speaker 1: and uh and how it was a important, a pivotal 903 00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:19,960 Speaker 1: moment in the history of the fight between Cross and Crescent, 904 00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:25,800 Speaker 1: Islam and Christianity, the expansion of the Ottoman Caliphate. Remember 905 00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:30,600 Speaker 1: we talked about this last week and October seventh is 906 00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,600 Speaker 1: the commemoration of the Battle of Panto, which was a 907 00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,600 Speaker 1: feast day in the Catholic Church. We often forget this. 908 00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:38,280 Speaker 1: Now it was a feast of our Lady of Victory, 909 00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:41,960 Speaker 1: and now it's our Lady of the Rosary. And because 910 00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:46,160 Speaker 1: people during the Battle of Lepanto, when you had this 911 00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,960 Speaker 1: massive armana of the Ottoman Empire facing off against the 912 00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:53,879 Speaker 1: what was called the Holy League of Christian forces from 913 00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:58,320 Speaker 1: different states and countries coming together uh to fight against 914 00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:03,160 Speaker 1: the Ottomans. And and it was the Rosary was they 915 00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:06,000 Speaker 1: said that they won. At the time, the thought was 916 00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,480 Speaker 1: they won because of the Rosary. So the Poles going 917 00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,439 Speaker 1: over to Poland for a second year, his is here's 918 00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:15,080 Speaker 1: a story of the associated press. Polish Catholics held rosaries 919 00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:20,000 Speaker 1: and prayed together Saturday along the countries a thirty kilometer border, 920 00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:23,480 Speaker 1: appealing to the Virgin Mary and God for salvation for 921 00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:27,279 Speaker 1: Poland and the world, in a national event that some 922 00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:32,359 Speaker 1: felt had anti Muslim overtones. The unusual Rosary to the 923 00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:36,560 Speaker 1: Borders event was organized by lay Catholics, but was also 924 00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:41,080 Speaker 1: endorsed by Polish church authorities, with three and twenty churches 925 00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:45,080 Speaker 1: from twenty two dioceses taking part. The prayers took place 926 00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,239 Speaker 1: from the Baltic Sea coast in the north, to the 927 00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:51,040 Speaker 1: mountains along poland southern borders with the Czech republican Slovakia, 928 00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,280 Speaker 1: and all along the border of this country of thirty 929 00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:59,920 Speaker 1: eight million were more than declare themselves Roman Catholics organized 930 00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:04,200 Speaker 1: say the prayers at some four thousand locations commemorated the 931 00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:08,360 Speaker 1: centenary of the apparitions of Fatima, when three shepherd children 932 00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:10,920 Speaker 1: in Portugal said the Virgin Mary appeared to them. But 933 00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:14,800 Speaker 1: the event also commemorated the huge sixteenth century naval Battle 934 00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,640 Speaker 1: of Lepanto, when a Christian alliance, acting on the wishes 935 00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:21,280 Speaker 1: of the Pope, defeated Ottoman Empire forces on the Ionian 936 00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:25,319 Speaker 1: Sea quote, thus saving Europe from Islamization. All right, end quote. 937 00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,879 Speaker 1: So that's the Associated press. Interesting point here is that 938 00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,440 Speaker 1: just holding a commemoration of Lepanto or praying the rosary 939 00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:35,520 Speaker 1: at the borders in Poland, because of the association with Lepanto, 940 00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:40,080 Speaker 1: was considered by the Intern international press to make it islamophobic, 941 00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:44,799 Speaker 1: that this was in a case of islamophobia. So I 942 00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,640 Speaker 1: just thought that was interesting, um, that that's the way 943 00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,040 Speaker 1: that they would go with this. And in Poland they 944 00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,840 Speaker 1: still remember and Paul, and they still commemorate October seven. 945 00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:57,000 Speaker 1: You may have seen the reports, and the news continues 946 00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:03,200 Speaker 1: to be really uh, really bad, really disconcerting. From California 947 00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:07,600 Speaker 1: firefighters is from CNN. Just fifteen minutes ago. Firefighters battling 948 00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:11,720 Speaker 1: deadly blazes in northern California faced a daunting challenge. Wednesday, 949 00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,799 Speaker 1: wind picked back up, threatening to spread wildfires that have 950 00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:18,400 Speaker 1: already killed twenty one people, destroyed hundreds of buildings and 951 00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:23,840 Speaker 1: four thousands of evacuations. Most of the fires were ignited Sunday, 952 00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:25,880 Speaker 1: driven by winds of up to seventy nine miles per 953 00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:29,240 Speaker 1: hour and dry conditions. More than twenty thousand people have 954 00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:34,080 Speaker 1: been ordered to evacuate as of Wednesday. UH. What causes 955 00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:37,880 Speaker 1: these wildfires, what's the history of them in this country? 956 00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:39,360 Speaker 1: And what can we do to combat them? These are 957 00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,600 Speaker 1: all things that I want to know. We have some 958 00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:44,040 Speaker 1: somebody on the line who can address that for us. 959 00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:48,680 Speaker 1: Don falk joins now. He's associate professor at the University 960 00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:53,280 Speaker 1: of Arizona and he researches UH fire history and ecology. Don, 961 00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,120 Speaker 1: thank you so much for your time to be here. 962 00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,080 Speaker 1: Don please put in a context I mean, from based 963 00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:01,760 Speaker 1: on on wild fires that we've had this country in 964 00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:04,960 Speaker 1: the past. How bad is what's going on in California 965 00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:10,840 Speaker 1: right now? This is pretty extreme and it represents the 966 00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:15,280 Speaker 1: nexus of fire, weather, fuels, and land use, and I 967 00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,120 Speaker 1: think we need to understand all of those. We're gonna 968 00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:21,440 Speaker 1: understand why this incident has been so extreme. Well, tell 969 00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:23,720 Speaker 1: us what what has caused this to be as bad 970 00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:27,080 Speaker 1: as it is? Okay, well, let's start with the weather 971 00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:33,840 Speaker 1: side of it. Obviously, fire season is when conditions are hot, dry, windy, 972 00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:38,240 Speaker 1: and low humidity. Those are the conditions that promote combustion 973 00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:43,360 Speaker 1: and uh in theat of California this time of year, 974 00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:47,200 Speaker 1: that's not unusual to have those conditions. We are seeing 975 00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:52,560 Speaker 1: an acceleration of those conditions as climate change progressive virus 976 00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:56,600 Speaker 1: seasons are getting longer, they're getting more extreme, the winds 977 00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,680 Speaker 1: are getting higher, the temperatures are getting higher. The temperature 978 00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:03,560 Speaker 1: signal is especially strong, and so we're very, very concerned 979 00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:07,440 Speaker 1: that what we're seeing now maybe harbinger of future conditions 980 00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:10,520 Speaker 1: as temperatures rise due to global warming. But that's a 981 00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:13,640 Speaker 1: seasonal occurrence in California all the time, it's just this 982 00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:18,840 Speaker 1: year it seems to be especially strong. Remember, also, California 983 00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,200 Speaker 1: had has had some very wet conditions. There's been a 984 00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:25,920 Speaker 1: lot of productivity, and productivity for fire means fuel. Fuel 985 00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:30,959 Speaker 1: is mostly vegetation, and you can think of fuel as 986 00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,919 Speaker 1: just a package of energy waiting to be released. It's 987 00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:38,320 Speaker 1: been created by the process of photosynthesis, where plants capture 988 00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:40,720 Speaker 1: the energy of the sun and water and nutrients and 989 00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:45,680 Speaker 1: build biomass. When a fire comes along, all that energy 990 00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:50,280 Speaker 1: that was encapsulated or embodied in that living vegetation is 991 00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:55,160 Speaker 1: released not over the years or decades or even centuries 992 00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,200 Speaker 1: that it may take to accumulate it, but in a 993 00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:01,480 Speaker 1: matter of minutes, so that it's an explosive release of energy. 994 01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:06,840 Speaker 1: Interesting thing, these fires that they're building, they're burning in 995 01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:11,400 Speaker 1: a combination of structures and vegetation, right, And if you 996 01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:14,120 Speaker 1: look at the pictures from the Santa Rosa fire, you 997 01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,600 Speaker 1: can see that it was the buildings that were carrying 998 01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:19,640 Speaker 1: the fire in a lot of cases. And that's because buildings, again, 999 01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:22,320 Speaker 1: if you think of them from a fire perspective, they're 1000 01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:26,520 Speaker 1: very concentrated pools of energy ready to combust. Do we 1001 01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:29,520 Speaker 1: know what what started the initial what was the ignition 1002 01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:32,240 Speaker 1: point of these fires in California that are are are 1003 01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,040 Speaker 1: still ongoing, right, I mean, these are threatening to continue 1004 01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:37,760 Speaker 1: to spread. You've got big winds kicking up. This is 1005 01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:42,640 Speaker 1: very much a problem that still has to be addressed, right. 1006 01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:46,320 Speaker 1: I don't think that the source of this particular fire, 1007 01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:48,919 Speaker 1: the one in Santa Roza, has been ascertained yet. There 1008 01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:52,040 Speaker 1: are about a dozen major fires burning in California this 1009 01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,120 Speaker 1: at this time, and of course that's not completely unusual. 1010 01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:59,800 Speaker 1: Mostly we associate those fires with southern California, Orange County 1011 01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:03,040 Speaker 1: and Anaheim County in San Diego County where the Santa 1012 01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,600 Speaker 1: Anna winds kick up at this time of year has 1013 01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:09,160 Speaker 1: been a long, hot, dry Mediterranean summer, so the fuel 1014 01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:13,560 Speaker 1: moistures are very very low, and nobody is really terribly surprised, honestly, 1015 01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:17,200 Speaker 1: when we have a big staffer Ale fire in southern California. 1016 01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:21,320 Speaker 1: A system is designed to I mean, it's evolved to 1017 01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:24,560 Speaker 1: burn that way, and it's certainly not a surprise. These 1018 01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:27,080 Speaker 1: fires are a little farther north than we would expect 1019 01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:29,440 Speaker 1: for this kind of behavior. Although I'm sure many of 1020 01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:33,240 Speaker 1: your listeners remember the great Oakland fire um that burned 1021 01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:36,320 Speaker 1: uh in a similar fashion. What are the and we're 1022 01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:38,800 Speaker 1: speaking of Don Falk, who's a professor at University of 1023 01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:43,560 Speaker 1: Arizona who researches fire history and ecology down So we've 1024 01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:46,400 Speaker 1: got major efforts to try to contain and put out 1025 01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:49,560 Speaker 1: these fires. What are those processes like, I mean, what 1026 01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:51,560 Speaker 1: are the things that they can do and what are 1027 01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:53,520 Speaker 1: the key indicators for whether or not they can get 1028 01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:58,200 Speaker 1: a fire under control? Right? Well, quite honestly, any firefighter 1029 01:01:58,200 --> 01:01:59,840 Speaker 1: will tell you that there's a limit to what they 1030 01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:03,480 Speaker 1: and do when fires are burning under extreme conditions. The 1031 01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:06,480 Speaker 1: amount of energy being released in a wildfire of this 1032 01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:11,480 Speaker 1: kind um is equivalent to the atomic bomb that was 1033 01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:14,880 Speaker 1: dropped on commotion during the Second World War. It's a 1034 01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:18,280 Speaker 1: massive amount of energy. We've actually done these calculations. It's 1035 01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:20,919 Speaker 1: a massive amount of energy being released all at once. 1036 01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:23,480 Speaker 1: So obviously with an incident like that, you're not going 1037 01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:26,200 Speaker 1: to get stand right up close to it and spray 1038 01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:28,320 Speaker 1: your hose on and put it out. In these cases, 1039 01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:31,880 Speaker 1: firefighters need to use what's called indirect attack. That is, 1040 01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:34,760 Speaker 1: you back away from the beast. You try to evaluate 1041 01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:37,600 Speaker 1: where it's going, where your best chances to catch it, 1042 01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:41,200 Speaker 1: and usually catching it means clearing a strip where the 1043 01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:44,040 Speaker 1: fuels are not going to be present, possibly putting some 1044 01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:48,040 Speaker 1: retardant which may under some cases slow down the spread 1045 01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:51,080 Speaker 1: of the fire. But you've got to be well away 1046 01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:54,120 Speaker 1: back from the direct line. That's indirect attack, and that's 1047 01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:56,320 Speaker 1: where you have to do. How far can the heat 1048 01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:58,960 Speaker 1: from a major fire like this travel beyond the flames? 1049 01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:01,800 Speaker 1: And I think that is a perception that if you 1050 01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,640 Speaker 1: look as a layperson not know anything about forest fires 1051 01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:08,760 Speaker 1: or wildfires, you know, as long as you stay uh, 1052 01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:11,880 Speaker 1: you're you're not called the actual flames, the heat isn't 1053 01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:13,560 Speaker 1: a problem. But I mean, how far does the heat 1054 01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:17,080 Speaker 1: actually cause I read something about how the windshields of 1055 01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:21,400 Speaker 1: cars were melted, right, so they're not not by direct flames. 1056 01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:25,120 Speaker 1: Go ahead. Yeah, So there's the heat and then there's 1057 01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:29,640 Speaker 1: the flaming material itself. So fires put out several different 1058 01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:32,320 Speaker 1: kinds of heat. There's convection, which is just the roiling 1059 01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:35,920 Speaker 1: masses of air. These create a huge smoke plumes that 1060 01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:39,880 Speaker 1: we often see over a big um fires. There's conduction, 1061 01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:43,560 Speaker 1: which carries through solid objects. But the main kind of 1062 01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:46,320 Speaker 1: heat that really comes out of these fires is radiation. 1063 01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:50,800 Speaker 1: It's electromagnetic radiation, and that is very, very intense think 1064 01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:53,200 Speaker 1: about the last time you're standing next to a campfire, 1065 01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:56,120 Speaker 1: and you know, when the campfire is really roaring, you 1066 01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:58,920 Speaker 1: don't want to be fire even ten feet away from 1067 01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:01,360 Speaker 1: the fire. You want to be well back. So imagine 1068 01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:05,600 Speaker 1: now the amount of energy coming out of combustion, with 1069 01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:08,880 Speaker 1: an entire wall of flame two to three hundred feet high. 1070 01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:12,360 Speaker 1: You want to be back many hundreds of meters from that. 1071 01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:16,720 Speaker 1: The other thing about the distance is that we do 1072 01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:20,360 Speaker 1: kind of think of this fire is spreading contiguously like 1073 01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:23,520 Speaker 1: a wave, sort of moving forward, like a wavefront moving forward. 1074 01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:27,600 Speaker 1: But big fires don't actually spread only by that process. 1075 01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:31,120 Speaker 1: They also do what's called spotting. And spotting is when 1076 01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:36,880 Speaker 1: these huge convective wind columns, they can lift entire trees 1077 01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:39,640 Speaker 1: out of the ground, branches and trees, and throw this 1078 01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:44,080 Speaker 1: flaming material many kilometers ahead of the flaming front. So 1079 01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:47,440 Speaker 1: you may think that you're facing the fire as a firefighter, 1080 01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:49,880 Speaker 1: you're looking at it, it's in front of you, and 1081 01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:54,600 Speaker 1: meanwhile the fire is sending flaming material behind you one 1082 01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:57,360 Speaker 1: or two kilometers, and all of a sudden you discover 1083 01:04:57,520 --> 01:04:59,920 Speaker 1: that you've got a fire behind you and you're trapped. 1084 01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:04,680 Speaker 1: So this spotting. Uh. Process is one of the main 1085 01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:08,000 Speaker 1: ways that fires when they move very quickly, when they 1086 01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:11,320 Speaker 1: spread very quickly, they actually can spread over whole landscapes 1087 01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:14,800 Speaker 1: because of this process. How quickly based on on the wind, 1088 01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:18,720 Speaker 1: have we measured a major fire moving? You know, with 1089 01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:21,720 Speaker 1: without I mean you're talking about the essentially an ember 1090 01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:24,320 Speaker 1: from a forest fire, right, although I guess can be 1091 01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:27,440 Speaker 1: a lot of embers, but moving and starting a separate fire, 1092 01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:31,720 Speaker 1: the actual main body of the flames itself. How quickly 1093 01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:35,040 Speaker 1: can that move? Yeah, so it's a very good point. 1094 01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:38,320 Speaker 1: Wind is a major factor in fires of this kind. 1095 01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:41,880 Speaker 1: These are what's called wind driven events. So fires have 1096 01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:44,800 Speaker 1: a certain rate of spread based on a topography, that is, 1097 01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:47,800 Speaker 1: the slope and the fuels and the wind and a 1098 01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:52,080 Speaker 1: few other factors. Wind can push a fire very very 1099 01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:57,200 Speaker 1: quickly forty fifty sixty. But the other factor that happens 1100 01:05:57,280 --> 01:05:59,920 Speaker 1: is when these big fires get going, they actually create 1101 01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:04,560 Speaker 1: their own weather. They create a firestorm, a convective plume 1102 01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:07,880 Speaker 1: that can rise thousands of feet into the air, many 1103 01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:10,600 Speaker 1: thousands of feet into the air. And when that happens, 1104 01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:14,560 Speaker 1: never mind the meteorological winds that are blowing around the 1105 01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:17,040 Speaker 1: area that fire is making its own winds, and these 1106 01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:20,960 Speaker 1: can be firestorm scale winds. And again, once you get 1107 01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:24,120 Speaker 1: into that kind of situation, the only thing that firefighters 1108 01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:27,120 Speaker 1: are concerned about is keeping their crew safe. They're not 1109 01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:29,360 Speaker 1: going to be putting that fire out. They're not gonna 1110 01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:32,440 Speaker 1: be saving anybody's house under those conditions. You're just trying 1111 01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:36,080 Speaker 1: not to die, all right. Don Falk, Associate professor at 1112 01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:38,840 Speaker 1: the University of Arizona, Thank you so much, sir for 1113 01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:41,960 Speaker 1: joining us. We appreciate your expertise. Good luck, and we'll 1114 01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:46,760 Speaker 1: be watching this situation, Thank you, sir. Absolutely. Uh man, 1115 01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:51,280 Speaker 1: that's see fire stuff is. And then there's a movie 1116 01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:53,240 Speaker 1: coming out and we're gonna be dressing that in a 1117 01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:57,640 Speaker 1: little bit about firefighting in firefighting against these forest fires 1118 01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:01,280 Speaker 1: and wildfires. Um, we'll it to that though in just 1119 01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:10,880 Speaker 1: a few minutes. Uh Johnny on w b V Mississippi, Hey, Johnny, Johnny, 1120 01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:16,760 Speaker 1: is he gone or am I? Oh? I guess he's 1121 01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:18,960 Speaker 1: not there? All right? Man? We we thought we were 1122 01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:20,600 Speaker 1: gonna hang out and talk a little bit. But I 1123 01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:23,919 Speaker 1: think you, you know, the takeout food has arrived or something. 1124 01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:27,120 Speaker 1: You're not there anymore. Uh. One thing, you know, I 1125 01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:30,920 Speaker 1: really appreciate it. I guess the asperptise. I think it's fascinating. 1126 01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:33,200 Speaker 1: So we're trying. I didn't know, and this is on me. 1127 01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:35,920 Speaker 1: I didn't think beforehand of well, we're talking to someone 1128 01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:39,240 Speaker 1: who's an expert in forest fires, or is this going 1129 01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:42,400 Speaker 1: to somehow tie in the climate change? And sure enough 1130 01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:44,480 Speaker 1: or he said global warming? Actually, sure enough we hear 1131 01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:49,479 Speaker 1: about global warming. I think that this is, uh now 1132 01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:52,600 Speaker 1: a situation where if you work in the natural sciences, 1133 01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:56,000 Speaker 1: if you work you know, not as opposed to social sciences, uh, 1134 01:07:56,040 --> 01:08:01,840 Speaker 1: in any capacity at all, you have to and you 1135 01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:05,200 Speaker 1: want to uh the tenured or you want to get 1136 01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:07,360 Speaker 1: grand money order, you just have to say this stuff. 1137 01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:09,440 Speaker 1: I think it's the price of admission now, which is 1138 01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:11,240 Speaker 1: a shame. But that's the sense that I get, because 1139 01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:14,919 Speaker 1: like this is I mean, really we're global warm anyway, Look, 1140 01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:16,400 Speaker 1: he has some very interesting to say. It knows a 1141 01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:18,800 Speaker 1: lot more about fires than I do, so that's good. 1142 01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:21,519 Speaker 1: But I didn't. I wasn't expecting global warming to come 1143 01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:23,920 Speaker 1: into the discus. I should have in retrospect, because you can't. 1144 01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:25,960 Speaker 1: I think we're at a point now where you could 1145 01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:31,559 Speaker 1: be talking about the uh, you know, mating patterns of 1146 01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:40,360 Speaker 1: the Alaskan salmon from August until October, and you'd hear 1147 01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:43,759 Speaker 1: from a you hear from marine biologist about global warming. 1148 01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:45,880 Speaker 1: I just don't think there's anywhere around the now. I 1149 01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:49,719 Speaker 1: don't think that you'll you'll escape this, so that anyway 1150 01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:51,200 Speaker 1: that we we can get it, we can leave that 1151 01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:52,880 Speaker 1: for now. I thought it was an interesting discussion though, 1152 01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:54,880 Speaker 1: because I don't know much about how these fires work, 1153 01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:58,280 Speaker 1: and it's a lot more complicated than show up points 1154 01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:00,680 Speaker 1: some water cannons at it and try to just put 1155 01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:03,479 Speaker 1: it out. That is not how it functions. Uh we 1156 01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:07,200 Speaker 1: I want I think I'll probably mention the eminem rap 1157 01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:10,160 Speaker 1: from last night about Trump. I meant to get to 1158 01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:12,320 Speaker 1: that before and I kind of skipped over. Well, revisit 1159 01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:16,479 Speaker 1: that for a moment, and then I believe we will 1160 01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:21,840 Speaker 1: be joined by a special guest. We have Pat McCarty 1161 01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:24,599 Speaker 1: joining us at the top of the next hour. He 1162 01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:29,040 Speaker 1: is a He is an individual who's part of the 1163 01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:32,080 Speaker 1: Granite Mountain hot Shots, who were in a league group 1164 01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:36,439 Speaker 1: of firefighters in Prescott, Arizona. He left the unit before 1165 01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:40,320 Speaker 1: the summer of and there is a movie coming out 1166 01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:43,960 Speaker 1: about the about what happened to the hot Shots, the 1167 01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:46,439 Speaker 1: Granite Mountain hot Shots. I think is it out already, Amy, 1168 01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:49,759 Speaker 1: It is out already yet, and it has Josh Broland 1169 01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:51,839 Speaker 1: playing the lead. So we should have a Pat McCarty 1170 01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:54,080 Speaker 1: joining talk to us about what it's like. We had 1171 01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:56,559 Speaker 1: a scientist to talk to us about the fires and 1172 01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:59,920 Speaker 1: the science of fires, and we've got these massive while 1173 01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:02,479 Speaker 1: fires going on in California right now. We'll have somebody 1174 01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:04,120 Speaker 1: who tells us what it's like to actually stare one 1175 01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:06,559 Speaker 1: of these things down, um, and we will do that 1176 01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:08,439 Speaker 1: when we come back. So stay with me. I was 1177 01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:11,240 Speaker 1: gonna talk about this eminem wrap, but you know what 1178 01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:14,840 Speaker 1: I actually wanna. I want to get us something else 1179 01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:18,200 Speaker 1: for a second. Here. The Boy Scouts of America is 1180 01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:24,719 Speaker 1: gonna start accepting girls. Why it's called the boy Scouts. 1181 01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:27,840 Speaker 1: I don't, I don't, I don't even. I mean, I 1182 01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:30,920 Speaker 1: get I know this is like we're erasing gender now 1183 01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:33,960 Speaker 1: in society and social justice and all that. But really, 1184 01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:37,080 Speaker 1: here's the news from the New York Times. The Boy 1185 01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:42,320 Speaker 1: Scouts of America announced plans on Wednesday to accept girls, 1186 01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:46,960 Speaker 1: marking a historic shift for the century old organization. The 1187 01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:51,080 Speaker 1: group cited the desire to nurture female leaders as a 1188 01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:54,960 Speaker 1: reason for the decision, hitting it against the Girl Scouts 1189 01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:59,560 Speaker 1: of the USA, which operates under a similar mission. We 1190 01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:03,400 Speaker 1: stry have to bring what our organization does best, developing characters, 1191 01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:06,679 Speaker 1: a character and leadership for young people to as many 1192 01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:09,160 Speaker 1: families in youth as possible as we help shape the 1193 01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:16,400 Speaker 1: next generation of leaders. Why I don't understand. Oh my gosh. 1194 01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:19,320 Speaker 1: The decision comes nearly two months after the organization was 1195 01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:22,840 Speaker 1: harshly criticized by the president of the Girl Scouts for 1196 01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:26,080 Speaker 1: what she said was a covert campaign to recruit girls. 1197 01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:31,240 Speaker 1: Uh okay, I I don't. I gotta like, look at 1198 01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:36,760 Speaker 1: I'm not understanding what's going on here, um about why 1199 01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:39,960 Speaker 1: how this all happened. But this just seems to me 1200 01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:44,600 Speaker 1: to be quite strange because the organization is called the 1201 01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:48,160 Speaker 1: Boy Scouts, So now you don't they're not there's it 1202 01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:53,040 Speaker 1: just now the Scouts And is the problem any sex 1203 01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:59,160 Speaker 1: segregated activity of of any kind. Now I'm it's not 1204 01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:01,160 Speaker 1: fair to girl is that they don't have this. The 1205 01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:03,040 Speaker 1: Girl Scouts is the thing. This is what I understand. 1206 01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:05,479 Speaker 1: If right, the girls, there's Girl Scouts, there's Boy Scouts. 1207 01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:07,839 Speaker 1: But now the Boy Scouts are gonna be taking girl scouts. 1208 01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:11,240 Speaker 1: I'm just seeing this now. I didn't I didn't plan 1209 01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:13,840 Speaker 1: to talk about this, so um working through this a 1210 01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:17,360 Speaker 1: little bit, and all I can think is, what this 1211 01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:22,600 Speaker 1: just doesn't make This doesn't make any sense bowing to 1212 01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:26,600 Speaker 1: I mean, usually I see the the politically correct rationale 1213 01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:28,760 Speaker 1: for this stuff right away and I go, okay, well, 1214 01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:33,240 Speaker 1: well that's that's why they did this. But in this case, 1215 01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:35,640 Speaker 1: there's a girl Scouts, there's boy Scouts. And this isn't like, 1216 01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:39,000 Speaker 1: you know, uh, a transgender rights issue thing of oh 1217 01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:41,200 Speaker 1: they're girl scouts. They're girl Scouts who want to be 1218 01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:43,120 Speaker 1: part of the boy Scouts or something. This is just 1219 01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:47,720 Speaker 1: you can't have you can't have any separations, all right, 1220 01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:50,160 Speaker 1: I don't I'm gonna look into this more because I 1221 01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:53,360 Speaker 1: don't even understand what they're argument is supposed to be 1222 01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:57,880 Speaker 1: for this. This is this isn't anyway Oh man, the 1223 01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:00,960 Speaker 1: world there were this. This country's just it seems to 1224 01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:03,800 Speaker 1: be going crazy. Not nothing really makes sense anymore. I 1225 01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:06,760 Speaker 1: would also note that I'm I'm hearing this maybe a 1226 01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:10,880 Speaker 1: separate issue, but I'm hearing now even from conservatives, it 1227 01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:13,840 Speaker 1: has become when referring to Chelsea Manning. That's when this 1228 01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:16,720 Speaker 1: comes up in in whether it's a news broadcasts or 1229 01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:20,439 Speaker 1: in writing. Conservatives all refer to Chelsea Manning from what 1230 01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:26,400 Speaker 1: I see, as she, and I'm starting to think, okay, 1231 01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:29,840 Speaker 1: so is that now the way this is supposed to go, 1232 01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:34,600 Speaker 1: because it looks to me like people are abandoning abandoning 1233 01:13:34,680 --> 01:13:39,720 Speaker 1: that disagreement pretty rapidly. And I think there was a 1234 01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:43,040 Speaker 1: law that just got passing California that that said that 1235 01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:45,800 Speaker 1: using the wrong wrong pronoun could be a form of discrimination. 1236 01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:48,519 Speaker 1: I think I saw that on making the rounds on 1237 01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:50,240 Speaker 1: social media. I have to dig into that so war, 1238 01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:53,759 Speaker 1: but I am seeing people now refer to Chelsea Manning 1239 01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:57,080 Speaker 1: as a she, and I just it's not to be 1240 01:13:57,120 --> 01:13:59,439 Speaker 1: disrespectful or meaner. I think it's a Chelsea Manning is 1241 01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:04,000 Speaker 1: a he A guy. I don't I call I called 1242 01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:06,080 Speaker 1: Chelsea man and Chelsea mannings. You can change your name, 1243 01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:07,680 Speaker 1: you can't change your gender. I've been through this a 1244 01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:11,519 Speaker 1: million times, but I think this is a debate that 1245 01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:14,479 Speaker 1: I'm starting to sense conservatives are backing away from and 1246 01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:16,600 Speaker 1: just saying, Okay, we're gonna go along with it anyway. 1247 01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:19,920 Speaker 1: This I switch this up. I was gonna get it. 1248 01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:21,680 Speaker 1: I mean the M and M RAP. I don't. I 1249 01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:25,840 Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe I'll play in the next break. It's 1250 01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:27,519 Speaker 1: just yeah, yeah, Trump is the worst. And if you 1251 01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:29,040 Speaker 1: like Trump, I don't want you supporting me. This is 1252 01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:30,760 Speaker 1: what I meant. I'm was saying at b T. I 1253 01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:33,880 Speaker 1: think he's got an album coming out. He said that 1254 01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:37,040 Speaker 1: Trump's a quote a kama Kaze that will probably call 1255 01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:42,400 Speaker 1: a nuclear holocaust end quote. This is uh, this is art. 1256 01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:46,280 Speaker 1: These three I suppose um eight four four nine Buck 1257 01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:50,400 Speaker 1: eight four four eight to five. I think we'll have 1258 01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:52,040 Speaker 1: our guest you want us here in a few minutes, 1259 01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:53,880 Speaker 1: and then I will be talking to you a little 1260 01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:57,240 Speaker 1: bit about immigration in the next hour. That team, I 1261 01:14:57,280 --> 01:15:01,080 Speaker 1: was just talking to you about everything going on in 1262 01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:07,000 Speaker 1: California right now and having update here on seventeen deaths 1263 01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:12,040 Speaker 1: so far in these wildfires, hundreds injured, over two hundred 1264 01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:15,479 Speaker 1: missing persons as of right now, a hundred and twenty 1265 01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:20,280 Speaker 1: two thousand acres burned, and the estimate so far is 1266 01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:26,960 Speaker 1: sixty five billion dollars of property damage. This according to 1267 01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:31,040 Speaker 1: Ian Bremer of Eurasia Group, a risk consultancy. What is 1268 01:15:31,080 --> 01:15:35,160 Speaker 1: it like to face one of these massive infernos. We 1269 01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:38,640 Speaker 1: have Pat McCarty joining us now. Now, Pat was a 1270 01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:42,160 Speaker 1: member of the Granite Mountain hot Shots. They were an 1271 01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:46,240 Speaker 1: elite group of wildland fire firefighters in Prescott, Arizona. He 1272 01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:49,880 Speaker 1: left the unit before the summer of He's gonna tell 1273 01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:53,840 Speaker 1: us why that is such a dates here are so 1274 01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:56,360 Speaker 1: important to the story. Pat, thank you so much for 1275 01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:59,519 Speaker 1: joining us. Hey, thank you very much for having me. 1276 01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:02,720 Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. First, if you would please tell us, 1277 01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:05,599 Speaker 1: because there's there's a movie out right now about this, 1278 01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:08,960 Speaker 1: UM tell us the story of the unit. You are 1279 01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:12,599 Speaker 1: a part of the Granite Mountain hot Shots. Yeah. So 1280 01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:14,840 Speaker 1: the movie is Only The Brave and it's going to 1281 01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:18,120 Speaker 1: come out on October twenty, But it follows the storyline 1282 01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:20,680 Speaker 1: of the Grand Mountain hot Shots UM. Granda Mountain hot 1283 01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:24,120 Speaker 1: Shots was based out of Prescott, Arizona from two thousand 1284 01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:27,160 Speaker 1: five till uh till the tragic death in two thousand 1285 01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:30,679 Speaker 1: thirteen and UH there were an elite group of men 1286 01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:34,040 Speaker 1: and they had one goal to become a hot shot crew. 1287 01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:38,719 Speaker 1: They started the process. It was over many, many years. Obviously, 1288 01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:41,240 Speaker 1: the film was a little bit condensed on that but 1289 01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:45,400 Speaker 1: it's a condensed version of their journey to become hot 1290 01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:49,479 Speaker 1: shots and also uh, everything that they go to through 1291 01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:53,960 Speaker 1: internally and externally with their families. It's a very very 1292 01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:59,120 Speaker 1: heroic movie and it's a true tribute to all wildland firefighters. Now, 1293 01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:01,760 Speaker 1: what what is it like? I mean this, I think 1294 01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:05,240 Speaker 1: for those listening, we we just had a a professor 1295 01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:08,280 Speaker 1: on to give us an academic explanation for just how 1296 01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:11,000 Speaker 1: dangerous these fires are, how big they are, how quickly 1297 01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:15,720 Speaker 1: they can spread. When you are engaged in trying to 1298 01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:17,720 Speaker 1: contain one of these things and trying to defeat one 1299 01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:20,479 Speaker 1: of these fires, what do you have to face? What 1300 01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:23,160 Speaker 1: goes through your mind? I mean, bring us as close 1301 01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:27,800 Speaker 1: to this reality of of fighting these fires as you can. Well, 1302 01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:29,240 Speaker 1: you know, to be honest with you, it's kind of 1303 01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:32,880 Speaker 1: a surreal world. Um. You know, all these firefighters and 1304 01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:36,320 Speaker 1: all these hotshots, they go through extensive amounts of training 1305 01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:38,600 Speaker 1: and all you can really do when you're put in 1306 01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:41,960 Speaker 1: those situations is try to rely on your training, because 1307 01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:45,519 Speaker 1: each and every day it's a different perspective, it's a 1308 01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:49,000 Speaker 1: different issue. There's always something new, um with the fire, 1309 01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:52,040 Speaker 1: the way it behaves or um, what you're seeing the 1310 01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:54,519 Speaker 1: country that you're in. It it's always different. And then 1311 01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:59,080 Speaker 1: to add onto that, you're always physically and mentally exhausted. 1312 01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:02,520 Speaker 1: Um you hot shots. They go into the deepest, darkest, 1313 01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:06,960 Speaker 1: uh steepest, roughest country that our nation has to offer, 1314 01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:10,639 Speaker 1: and sometimes it's the very most remote, and these guys 1315 01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:12,400 Speaker 1: go in there with a smile on their face and 1316 01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:15,880 Speaker 1: they solve whatever problem that fire is gonna throw at them. 1317 01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:19,040 Speaker 1: And ultimately it's it's guys on the ground that have 1318 01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:21,800 Speaker 1: to do this work. Right, There's not I think that 1319 01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:24,720 Speaker 1: the general conception and maybe I'm I'm speaking mostly for 1320 01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:27,000 Speaker 1: myself here, it's just that, well, there there has to 1321 01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:30,080 Speaker 1: be more that can be done. When a fire is 1322 01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:34,160 Speaker 1: threatening an entire town, threatened to blaze through an entire city, 1323 01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:37,520 Speaker 1: there's more that than just calling on groups of firefighters 1324 01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:39,920 Speaker 1: on foot, right, there has to be some and I 1325 01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:45,280 Speaker 1: know they can call in UH planes to to drop water, 1326 01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:47,360 Speaker 1: and I think they also will drop what anti and 1327 01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:51,880 Speaker 1: flat anti flam um uh anti flame material on it, 1328 01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:55,960 Speaker 1: you know, and it's basically a flame retardant. But you know, 1329 01:18:56,560 --> 01:19:00,000 Speaker 1: it's speaking for the helicopters they um all that stuff. 1330 01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:02,040 Speaker 1: It's only good for so long. Eventually that water is 1331 01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:04,840 Speaker 1: gonna dry up and that those flaming fronts will burn 1332 01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:07,559 Speaker 1: through it. Um, It'll creep through it, it it will smolder 1333 01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:09,720 Speaker 1: through it. So what puts these fires out and what 1334 01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:12,280 Speaker 1: really does it is boots on the ground, the guys 1335 01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:15,120 Speaker 1: on the ground swinging the tools. Um. You know, I 1336 01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:17,640 Speaker 1: wish we could just go in there and use helicopters 1337 01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:20,040 Speaker 1: and airplanes to take care of it. It would be 1338 01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:22,280 Speaker 1: a lot easier, but that's just not the world we 1339 01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:24,040 Speaker 1: live it. So, but what do you do pat when 1340 01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:26,559 Speaker 1: you are when you're when you're with a unit like 1341 01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:29,439 Speaker 1: the Granite Mountain hot Shots and there's a fire that's 1342 01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:33,160 Speaker 1: threatening the threatening homes and threatening lives, walk us through 1343 01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:36,000 Speaker 1: the the the the order of battle, if you will, Like, 1344 01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:38,680 Speaker 1: what what do you establish what the wind trajectory is? 1345 01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:41,240 Speaker 1: And then you set up a perimeter? I mean, how 1346 01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:43,320 Speaker 1: do you go about actually slowing this thing down and 1347 01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:46,599 Speaker 1: trying to stop it? Yeah, you know what, there's a 1348 01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:48,760 Speaker 1: whole whole, whole bunch that goes into it, and I 1349 01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:51,760 Speaker 1: wish we had more time for that. Um. But yes, 1350 01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:56,400 Speaker 1: it's a scientific approach. It's a very topographical approach, you know, 1351 01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:59,360 Speaker 1: you're gonna want to make sure that you're in a 1352 01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:02,840 Speaker 1: good a position to make attack on the fire. Obviously, UM, 1353 01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:04,600 Speaker 1: you don't want to be above the fire unless you 1354 01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:06,920 Speaker 1: absolutely have to be putting line in. And then we 1355 01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:09,439 Speaker 1: have rules and check checklist we have to go through 1356 01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:13,680 Speaker 1: with that. We pay very close attention to the weather. UM. 1357 01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:16,559 Speaker 1: You know, we're watching the humidity on the half hour 1358 01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:18,920 Speaker 1: to the hour, you know, down to five minutes if 1359 01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:21,680 Speaker 1: we need to. UM. It's an amazing approach and it 1360 01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:25,040 Speaker 1: takes a great group of people. You'll see a ton 1361 01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:26,840 Speaker 1: of firefighters out there and they all have a very 1362 01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:31,000 Speaker 1: specific job, and you know they take great pride in that. Now, Pat, 1363 01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:33,760 Speaker 1: if you would tell us, I mean, the people may 1364 01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:37,160 Speaker 1: still go out and see the movie, but it is 1365 01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:39,320 Speaker 1: it is based on the true story of the Granite 1366 01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:42,360 Speaker 1: Mountain hot Shots. Uh, would you would you walk us 1367 01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:46,600 Speaker 1: through what happened? Yes, So the movie is based on 1368 01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:48,800 Speaker 1: true story of the Grand Mountain hot Shots and it 1369 01:20:48,880 --> 01:20:51,680 Speaker 1: is very true to license. UM. I would say a 1370 01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:55,720 Speaker 1: couple of things. This is the most authentictic movie that 1371 01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:58,280 Speaker 1: the audience will ever see as far as wild and 1372 01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:03,800 Speaker 1: firefighters go. UM. An amazing film. UM. And tragically Uh, 1373 01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:06,160 Speaker 1: the guys pass away, you know, nineteen guys pass away 1374 01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:10,400 Speaker 1: and one man does survive. Um, it's a great film. 1375 01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:12,439 Speaker 1: You really get to know the guys, you get to 1376 01:21:12,439 --> 01:21:15,280 Speaker 1: know who they were before this happened. And you know, 1377 01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:17,240 Speaker 1: I really encouraged the audience to go out there and 1378 01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:20,080 Speaker 1: watch it and really try to learn what these guys 1379 01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:23,000 Speaker 1: do because there's thousands of them that are still doing 1380 01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:26,160 Speaker 1: it every day. All Right. Pat McCarty of the formerly 1381 01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:28,720 Speaker 1: of the Granite Mountain hot Shots, really appreciate you joining us. 1382 01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:30,800 Speaker 1: Thank you for what you what you do, and uh, 1383 01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:34,160 Speaker 1: we'll spread the word about the movie. Thank you very much. 1384 01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:37,760 Speaker 1: All right. Seem well there you have it. Uh, we've 1385 01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:40,120 Speaker 1: we've now you know. This is I don't think I've 1386 01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:43,200 Speaker 1: ever talked about wildfire as before on radio, and so 1387 01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:45,760 Speaker 1: I've been trying to learn more about them. But the 1388 01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:50,479 Speaker 1: statistics are just staggering for how much damage is being done. 1389 01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:53,080 Speaker 1: I mean a hundred to twenty hundred and twenty two 1390 01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:56,760 Speaker 1: thousand acres. That is a lot of land. This is 1391 01:21:56,800 --> 01:21:58,960 Speaker 1: one of the biggest fire emergencies in the history of 1392 01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:04,080 Speaker 1: the state of California. UM, So if you have any 1393 01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:07,320 Speaker 1: thoughts on that, please do call in. I should also 1394 01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:13,040 Speaker 1: note as a follow up to yesterday on the Vegas response, 1395 01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:16,040 Speaker 1: right the response from Lawnforce in the Vegas shooting. I 1396 01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:18,680 Speaker 1: got messages on that. UM I will try to if 1397 01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:20,200 Speaker 1: I can remember, I'll try to get some of them 1398 01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:22,559 Speaker 1: in Team Buck speaks later in the show. Had launch 1399 01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:26,920 Speaker 1: members of Team Buck, whether they consider themselves members or not, 1400 01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:28,479 Speaker 1: have to listen to the show. I like to think 1401 01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:31,439 Speaker 1: of them as members. Uh. They wrote to me with 1402 01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:35,400 Speaker 1: with their thoughts on it. And we did invite a 1403 01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:37,479 Speaker 1: SWAT expert that we had scheduled to having the show 1404 01:22:37,479 --> 01:22:39,400 Speaker 1: before to come back and talk to us about this. 1405 01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:43,559 Speaker 1: But it seems like the uh there there's still some 1406 01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:47,840 Speaker 1: details that we need to find out about what happened 1407 01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:54,040 Speaker 1: in the critical moments, critical minutes between the first gunfire 1408 01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:59,679 Speaker 1: at the security guard and then the actual major attack 1409 01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:03,320 Speaker 1: on the civilian so that mass, mass casualty shooting incident. 1410 01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:05,559 Speaker 1: So there's more details we need to find out about it. 1411 01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:07,080 Speaker 1: But and we will try to get somebody on to 1412 01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:10,200 Speaker 1: talk about the response. And I was reading as well 1413 01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:14,000 Speaker 1: about Pulse Nightclub and interesting because there there are some 1414 01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:16,360 Speaker 1: who say that the police that the Pulse Nightclub played 1415 01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:19,640 Speaker 1: it the exactly the way they had to under the circumstances. 1416 01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:23,200 Speaker 1: There are some who are longtime SWAT people said that no, no, 1417 01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:27,080 Speaker 1: that they they should reevaluate some of the decisions that 1418 01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:29,439 Speaker 1: were made, some of the tactical decisions that were made 1419 01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:32,680 Speaker 1: at the scene of the Pulse nightclub shooting. And I 1420 01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:35,439 Speaker 1: didn't know this. I learned this from doing some research 1421 01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:39,360 Speaker 1: in the last few days, that they changed the approach, 1422 01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:42,599 Speaker 1: that SWAT had to change the approach to mass shooter 1423 01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:49,880 Speaker 1: incidents after Columbine back in because the initial UH, the 1424 01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:52,800 Speaker 1: initial strategy approach to this was that you showed up 1425 01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:54,920 Speaker 1: once you had SWAT there, they showed up and they 1426 01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:59,280 Speaker 1: would set up a perimeter and then seek to you know, 1427 01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:05,680 Speaker 1: established uh communication and perhaps negotiate. And after Columbine they 1428 01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:07,679 Speaker 1: had they had to change that. They had to change 1429 01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:11,559 Speaker 1: that approach. So we will get somebody on with more 1430 01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:14,080 Speaker 1: expertise than that in the future, because look at the 1431 01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:16,280 Speaker 1: Las Vegas we still don't have a motive for the 1432 01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:21,360 Speaker 1: Las Vegas shooter, and they're still more that we need 1433 01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:25,000 Speaker 1: to do to figure out exactly what happened there. Um 1434 01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:27,920 Speaker 1: And I appreciate all the messages and notes that I 1435 01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:31,599 Speaker 1: got about that part of the show on the discussion front. 1436 01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:34,880 Speaker 1: All right, um, as I like to say hard turn 1437 01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:37,880 Speaker 1: here for a moment before I going to the break, 1438 01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:41,240 Speaker 1: and we'll talk about immigration. We can play the eminem rap, right, 1439 01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:43,800 Speaker 1: I mean, we're all so this is the hard turn 1440 01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:45,240 Speaker 1: to the I wanted to play it, play the m 1441 01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:48,960 Speaker 1: m rap for a second. That's an awfully hot coffee 1442 01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:52,200 Speaker 1: pot said, I dropped it on Donald Trump. Probably not, 1443 01:24:52,360 --> 01:24:54,479 Speaker 1: but that's all I got. But we bet it. Give 1444 01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:57,280 Speaker 1: Obama props because what we got in off is now 1445 01:24:57,400 --> 01:25:00,360 Speaker 1: is a common kaze that will probably cause and clear 1446 01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:04,439 Speaker 1: hola cost. Look I don't I don't get it, and 1447 01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:06,400 Speaker 1: I don't pretend to be some kind of music critic, 1448 01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:08,720 Speaker 1: although I guess I couldly. I'm a radio ho so 1449 01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:10,719 Speaker 1: I kind of him a critic of everything in a sense. 1450 01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:14,080 Speaker 1: But I don't really understand the There was so much 1451 01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:17,560 Speaker 1: last night. It was like my my social media timeline 1452 01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:19,320 Speaker 1: was just full of oh my gosh, do you see 1453 01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:21,920 Speaker 1: what either I haven't em did? Uh? Is he is 1454 01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:24,040 Speaker 1: he the artist for? Is he formerly known as slim 1455 01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:27,760 Speaker 1: Shady or do people still call him slim Shady? He 1456 01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:30,000 Speaker 1: doesn't really, Yeah, he so he's the artist formerly known 1457 01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:33,960 Speaker 1: as Slim Slim Shady. It doesn't really Drama's just told 1458 01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:36,679 Speaker 1: me he doesn't really doesn't really go by that anymore. 1459 01:25:36,720 --> 01:25:40,120 Speaker 1: I guess he's Marshall Mathers, right, that's his actual actual name, 1460 01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:42,840 Speaker 1: Marshall Mathers. So he has an album coming out too, 1461 01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:45,080 Speaker 1: So maybe this is it's great, it's great publicity, right, 1462 01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:48,600 Speaker 1: he gets and and I suppose he figures that the 1463 01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:51,120 Speaker 1: people that like his music won't care if they voted 1464 01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:55,000 Speaker 1: for Trump, that he was explicitly insulting them by saying 1465 01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:57,200 Speaker 1: that he doesn't want if you support Trump, he doesn't 1466 01:25:57,240 --> 01:26:00,759 Speaker 1: like you. This is largely a business of vision, I suppose. 1467 01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:02,960 Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know. I I used to listen 1468 01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:04,760 Speaker 1: to a lot of a lot of what we called 1469 01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:07,000 Speaker 1: rap music in the nineties. Now it is hip hop music. 1470 01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:11,760 Speaker 1: I've never really understood the appeal that Eminem seems to 1471 01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:14,719 Speaker 1: hold for a lot of people. But Eight Miles actually 1472 01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:17,040 Speaker 1: a pretty good movie. I thought, for what it was, 1473 01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:19,920 Speaker 1: eight Miles pretty good movie. That's uh. That's when you 1474 01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:21,320 Speaker 1: know you've you've hit the big time and you get 1475 01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:23,679 Speaker 1: to play yourself the movie about your life that makes 1476 01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:26,000 Speaker 1: you a hero. You know, that's there have been others 1477 01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:28,640 Speaker 1: who have done that too, but that is certainly a 1478 01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:33,280 Speaker 1: thing that only a few get the opportunity or all right, 1479 01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:35,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk to you about immigration because I think 1480 01:26:35,320 --> 01:26:38,680 Speaker 1: there was an interesting indicator of what's to come on 1481 01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:42,799 Speaker 1: immigration going forward Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, and Donald Trump. 1482 01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:45,320 Speaker 1: So that will be coming up here in a few minutes, 1483 01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:49,599 Speaker 1: and I'm hoping that tomorrow will get to the latest 1484 01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:52,840 Speaker 1: I wrote on the Hill dot com today about how 1485 01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:55,280 Speaker 1: ISIS is defeated essentially and no one's really talking about 1486 01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:57,120 Speaker 1: it because the defeat doesn't feel like a defeat, but 1487 01:26:57,160 --> 01:27:00,080 Speaker 1: ISIS has really been defeated, So that might be a 1488 01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:03,720 Speaker 1: deep dive worth getting into tomorrow, And I let me 1489 01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:05,360 Speaker 1: know if you want us to do more on it. 1490 01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:08,360 Speaker 1: The Iran Deal decertificate until it gets decertified, I don't know. 1491 01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:10,800 Speaker 1: I feel like we've already covered a lot of that backstory, 1492 01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:12,720 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna be looking for things tomorrow that are 1493 01:27:12,760 --> 01:27:15,400 Speaker 1: not Weinstein related to talk about that that I will 1494 01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:17,000 Speaker 1: promise you, because it's been a lot of that going 1495 01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:20,240 Speaker 1: on immigration coming up. Team stay with me to DAS 1496 01:27:20,280 --> 01:27:22,920 Speaker 1: and those of us who fight for them. Opposed by 1497 01:27:22,920 --> 01:27:28,400 Speaker 1: an overwhelming majority of Americans and anathema to our national values. 1498 01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:32,800 Speaker 1: I love it. You know Trump is on the right 1499 01:27:32,840 --> 01:27:37,120 Speaker 1: track when Nancy Pelosi is so upset about it, I 1500 01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:41,360 Speaker 1: think this was this is great. Hey, I when this 1501 01:27:41,439 --> 01:27:44,679 Speaker 1: was initially a story, I forget what it was about 1502 01:27:44,720 --> 01:27:47,280 Speaker 1: a month ago or so, and people were saying, oh, 1503 01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:49,320 Speaker 1: how could you do this deal with Chuck and Nancy? 1504 01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:51,720 Speaker 1: And I was like, look, that wouldn't be good. I 1505 01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:54,000 Speaker 1: couldn't support that. I'd have to be critical of the 1506 01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:57,160 Speaker 1: president if that were in fact the case. But here 1507 01:27:57,200 --> 01:28:01,400 Speaker 1: you have Nancy. I have that. Here, you know, you 1508 01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:07,080 Speaker 1: have Nancy Pelosi who is clearly flustered by this whole situation. 1509 01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:11,360 Speaker 1: And I think that that is a very good sign 1510 01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:14,960 Speaker 1: that the Trump administration has decided they're going to play 1511 01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:17,160 Speaker 1: a little bit of hardball on immigration. I think that 1512 01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:21,080 Speaker 1: they have realized that there's nothing that they can do 1513 01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:25,599 Speaker 1: with the Democrats on immigration until the American people are 1514 01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:32,360 Speaker 1: clear on just how much the UH. The Democrats do 1515 01:28:32,439 --> 01:28:35,479 Speaker 1: not in fact want to be in any way, shape 1516 01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:42,400 Speaker 1: or form involved in UH border security, interior enforcement, any 1517 01:28:42,439 --> 01:28:45,360 Speaker 1: of that. Okay, So I think it's great. I mean, 1518 01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:49,479 Speaker 1: the list of principles that were delivered by the White 1519 01:28:49,479 --> 01:28:52,880 Speaker 1: House to Congress. I'm immitting to give you these specifics. 1520 01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:54,840 Speaker 1: I mentioned some of them earlier in the week. But 1521 01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:59,120 Speaker 1: it's employing ten thousand additional Immigration and Customs enforcement officers 1522 01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:02,519 Speaker 1: and a thousand lawyers for the agency, hiring an extra 1523 01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:06,240 Speaker 1: three hundred and seventy immigration judges and three hundred federal prosecutors. 1524 01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:11,360 Speaker 1: Banning immigrants from bringing their extended family members to the US. Oh, 1525 01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:17,280 Speaker 1: that's right, no more chain migration. Everybody, penalizing sanctuary cities 1526 01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:20,360 Speaker 1: that have resisted the Trump administration's efforts to crack down 1527 01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:23,960 Speaker 1: on illegal immigrants, and having companies use an e verified 1528 01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:31,000 Speaker 1: program to keep illegal immigrants from getting jobs. I feel 1529 01:29:31,040 --> 01:29:35,920 Speaker 1: like Steven Miller, who is one of the few non Beltway, 1530 01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:41,760 Speaker 1: non swamp administration officials. Uh, that seems to be left. Uh, 1531 01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:44,759 Speaker 1: he's got to be all over this. Did this looks 1532 01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:48,200 Speaker 1: like his hand at work? Um? And look, it's the 1533 01:29:48,240 --> 01:29:51,800 Speaker 1: President's the president's policy, so he ultimately either gets the 1534 01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:54,280 Speaker 1: credit of the blame for this. But these are some 1535 01:29:54,320 --> 01:29:56,439 Speaker 1: of the key principles that we need to have for 1536 01:29:56,520 --> 01:30:01,040 Speaker 1: an immigration reform discussion. The These are some of the 1537 01:30:01,400 --> 01:30:07,040 Speaker 1: critically important things that if we're gonna have any forward 1538 01:30:07,120 --> 01:30:10,000 Speaker 1: movement on this, and unless we just want status quo, 1539 01:30:11,200 --> 01:30:14,960 Speaker 1: you need to establish what it is that the Republicans 1540 01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:17,680 Speaker 1: will insist on before any any long term deal of 1541 01:30:17,720 --> 01:30:21,519 Speaker 1: any kind can be done for dreamers. Look, Trump says 1542 01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:23,680 Speaker 1: he's a negotiator. I'm all in favor of the art 1543 01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:26,759 Speaker 1: of the possible too, never mind the art of the deal. 1544 01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:29,800 Speaker 1: But the politics is supposed to be the art of 1545 01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:33,400 Speaker 1: the possible. And we will see how that is put 1546 01:30:33,400 --> 01:30:37,720 Speaker 1: into action here with immigration, because there's no way for 1547 01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:42,439 Speaker 1: Democrats like Pelosi and Schumer to stand in opposition to 1548 01:30:42,640 --> 01:30:46,479 Speaker 1: all of these different things without people, the American people 1549 01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:50,800 Speaker 1: starting to recognize. Hold on a second, why why do 1550 01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:55,080 Speaker 1: we not want more immigration judges? And why do we 1551 01:30:55,160 --> 01:30:59,880 Speaker 1: not want more federal prosecutors? And why should chain migration 1552 01:31:00,760 --> 01:31:04,200 Speaker 1: be the law of the land. That doesn't seem to 1553 01:31:04,240 --> 01:31:06,720 Speaker 1: make sense. We have an immigration process for the individual 1554 01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:11,200 Speaker 1: that comes into the country. We shouldn't have a special 1555 01:31:11,240 --> 01:31:13,799 Speaker 1: system of privileges for those who come into the country 1556 01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:16,920 Speaker 1: and everyone in their family and then their family members 1557 01:31:16,920 --> 01:31:19,840 Speaker 1: and their family members. And that is the way that 1558 01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:24,759 Speaker 1: this works in practice, And so Democrats are gonna They're 1559 01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:28,520 Speaker 1: gonna just say dreamers, dreamers, dreamers. Trump, I think can 1560 01:31:28,560 --> 01:31:33,720 Speaker 1: force clarity on this issue by pushing a bit more 1561 01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:37,360 Speaker 1: and saying, look, I'm willing to I'm I was talking 1562 01:31:37,400 --> 01:31:41,360 Speaker 1: to Chuck and Nancy and I'm willing to approach this 1563 01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:45,639 Speaker 1: from an open minded perspective. But you're gonna have to 1564 01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:47,680 Speaker 1: to get to give here. And what you'll see is 1565 01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:51,599 Speaker 1: the Democrats can't give anything on immigration. They won't their 1566 01:31:51,680 --> 01:31:55,280 Speaker 1: base won't allow them. The only thing that'll allow is 1567 01:31:55,320 --> 01:32:00,519 Speaker 1: the facade of negotiations with the certainty of amnesty. Anything 1568 01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:04,519 Speaker 1: else is just gonna get uh is gonna get the dreamers. 1569 01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:07,360 Speaker 1: I mean, the Democrats invite illegals to the State of 1570 01:32:07,360 --> 01:32:12,000 Speaker 1: the Union address, and they invite illegals to government functions. 1571 01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:17,439 Speaker 1: They hold up illegals as somehow better than the American people. 1572 01:32:19,120 --> 01:32:21,400 Speaker 1: There always the jobs they won't do, and you know 1573 01:32:21,439 --> 01:32:24,519 Speaker 1: they do the jobs Americans won't do, and lower crime 1574 01:32:24,640 --> 01:32:26,960 Speaker 1: rates the native born Americans. It's like, well, what are 1575 01:32:27,000 --> 01:32:29,320 Speaker 1: they trying to say exactly? First of all, that's just 1576 01:32:29,680 --> 01:32:31,880 Speaker 1: that's just crap. Those are talking points, it's not true, 1577 01:32:31,920 --> 01:32:34,840 Speaker 1: it's not based in the reality. But they see it 1578 01:32:35,040 --> 01:32:39,400 Speaker 1: as a propaganda war. Immigration is about what people believe, 1579 01:32:39,560 --> 01:32:41,840 Speaker 1: not what is true. That's how the Democrats are playing 1580 01:32:41,880 --> 01:32:44,200 Speaker 1: the game. And I think Trump will be in a 1581 01:32:44,280 --> 01:32:47,800 Speaker 1: position to fight on this issue, to push back and 1582 01:32:47,880 --> 01:32:52,479 Speaker 1: to possibly get a deal done that put some of 1583 01:32:52,520 --> 01:32:57,200 Speaker 1: the most important immigration changes into place, assuming the Republican 1584 01:32:57,240 --> 01:33:01,559 Speaker 1: Congress goes along with him. I I'm wondering ring who 1585 01:33:01,600 --> 01:33:04,519 Speaker 1: thinks that the Congress is gonna get blamed versus who 1586 01:33:04,520 --> 01:33:06,760 Speaker 1: thinks Trump is gonna get blamed if nothing happens going 1587 01:33:06,760 --> 01:33:11,160 Speaker 1: into the midterms. At some point we are allowed as 1588 01:33:11,200 --> 01:33:14,040 Speaker 1: people to just say, you know what, as conservatives, as Republicans, 1589 01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:17,400 Speaker 1: as Americans, what's the point If they're not going to 1590 01:33:17,479 --> 01:33:20,719 Speaker 1: get anything done? What why go through all the motions 1591 01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:24,040 Speaker 1: of voting and raising money or sending money or whatever 1592 01:33:24,080 --> 01:33:26,400 Speaker 1: it is, you know, licking envelopes and stamps and all 1593 01:33:26,439 --> 01:33:28,200 Speaker 1: that stuff. I mean, whatever it is you're doing to 1594 01:33:28,280 --> 01:33:31,320 Speaker 1: help elect Republicans. And I know a lot of your 1595 01:33:31,360 --> 01:33:33,760 Speaker 1: listening to a whole heck of a lot, it's gonna 1596 01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:38,200 Speaker 1: be pretty hard to get excited about that if there's 1597 01:33:38,200 --> 01:33:42,040 Speaker 1: nothing to point you after two years of Republican controlled House, 1598 01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:48,719 Speaker 1: Senate and presidency. So immigration is as an issue alive 1599 01:33:48,760 --> 01:33:51,000 Speaker 1: and well, and we will see this is going to 1600 01:33:51,040 --> 01:33:55,640 Speaker 1: be a defining a defining issue for the Trump administration, 1601 01:33:55,720 --> 01:33:58,559 Speaker 1: good or bad. It's em buck back that you're here 1602 01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:00,680 Speaker 1: to a close up shop in the Freedom Hunt for 1603 01:34:01,840 --> 01:34:05,240 Speaker 1: this session. I wanted to share you that last night 1604 01:34:05,360 --> 01:34:07,080 Speaker 1: I was on the way home and I was thinking 1605 01:34:07,280 --> 01:34:11,799 Speaker 1: a bit about the discussion that well we are having 1606 01:34:11,840 --> 01:34:15,720 Speaker 1: and that I have been pushing on everything in response 1607 01:34:16,720 --> 01:34:20,240 Speaker 1: or everything about the response in Las Vegas from law enforcement. 1608 01:34:20,720 --> 01:34:24,000 Speaker 1: And I was walking home, well, I was in the subway, 1609 01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:27,639 Speaker 1: and and I was on my way home, and I 1610 01:34:27,680 --> 01:34:32,600 Speaker 1: saw an individual who, in M Y P D parlance 1611 01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:35,000 Speaker 1: is clearly an E d P. I mean, it was 1612 01:34:35,080 --> 01:34:39,880 Speaker 1: somebody who and I don't say this as a point 1613 01:34:39,880 --> 01:34:42,840 Speaker 1: of ridicule, but he was a guy who looked like 1614 01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:46,439 Speaker 1: he hadn't, you know, shaved in many many years, hadn't 1615 01:34:46,439 --> 01:34:49,479 Speaker 1: had his haircut many many years. And you could smell 1616 01:34:49,600 --> 01:34:53,960 Speaker 1: him from a very long ways away. He was absolutely 1617 01:34:54,439 --> 01:34:57,680 Speaker 1: filthy and and and it's really it's really sad. And 1618 01:34:58,160 --> 01:35:01,040 Speaker 1: I sometimes you see this in your the subway. In fact, 1619 01:35:01,360 --> 01:35:06,240 Speaker 1: occasionally there'll be someone who is homeless or apparently homeless 1620 01:35:06,240 --> 01:35:09,960 Speaker 1: who was on a subway car, and you'll wonder, what 1621 01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:12,160 Speaker 1: this is such a pack train and you'll step into 1622 01:35:12,200 --> 01:35:14,439 Speaker 1: the car because you'll see it first the windows. It'll 1623 01:35:14,479 --> 01:35:16,760 Speaker 1: be empty. You'll step in, and they'll be one individual 1624 01:35:16,800 --> 01:35:22,080 Speaker 1: in there who has such an overpowering smell from lack 1625 01:35:22,160 --> 01:35:26,640 Speaker 1: of access to bathroom facilities and showers and and just 1626 01:35:27,240 --> 01:35:29,040 Speaker 1: uh and a lot of cases you're dealing with in 1627 01:35:29,080 --> 01:35:32,280 Speaker 1: the homeless population of New York City, people who have uh, 1628 01:35:32,800 --> 01:35:36,600 Speaker 1: deep addiction and mental health issues. But I saw this 1629 01:35:36,680 --> 01:35:41,240 Speaker 1: individual and he was he was shouting belligerently. You know, 1630 01:35:41,320 --> 01:35:45,800 Speaker 1: he was yelling. It wasn't really clear other than some 1631 01:35:45,840 --> 01:35:49,720 Speaker 1: curses here and there, what he was shouting. And sure enough, 1632 01:35:50,439 --> 01:35:56,040 Speaker 1: two NYPD officers came over to him. And I was 1633 01:35:56,400 --> 01:36:00,840 Speaker 1: not trying to U watch the exchange beyond just being 1634 01:36:00,880 --> 01:36:02,599 Speaker 1: there because I had no choice. I'm trying to get 1635 01:36:02,600 --> 01:36:05,760 Speaker 1: out of the subway. But I I noticed for for 1636 01:36:05,800 --> 01:36:09,040 Speaker 1: a good a few moments what was going on, and 1637 01:36:09,200 --> 01:36:12,519 Speaker 1: it's just I know, that's that's law enforcement in a 1638 01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:16,400 Speaker 1: lot of cases. He have two cops who are trying 1639 01:36:16,439 --> 01:36:21,960 Speaker 1: to reason with this individual who is clearly uh in 1640 01:36:22,040 --> 01:36:26,160 Speaker 1: need of a lot of help and is very likely 1641 01:36:26,479 --> 01:36:30,080 Speaker 1: not a threat to anybody, but is concerning because when 1642 01:36:30,080 --> 01:36:33,880 Speaker 1: you have somebody who has all of those different characteristics 1643 01:36:33,920 --> 01:36:40,000 Speaker 1: put together, if somebody who is U clearly um in, 1644 01:36:40,640 --> 01:36:41,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what else to say. I mean, 1645 01:36:41,840 --> 01:36:44,639 Speaker 1: it's it's a guy who's screaming, he's filthy, he's got 1646 01:36:44,960 --> 01:36:47,120 Speaker 1: you know, his hair is down to his shoulders, his 1647 01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:48,960 Speaker 1: beard is down to you know, the middle of his 1648 01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:51,080 Speaker 1: chest pretty much or you know, the top of his chest, 1649 01:36:51,120 --> 01:36:54,720 Speaker 1: and he's got clothing that's literally falling apart, and he's 1650 01:36:54,720 --> 01:36:57,679 Speaker 1: screaming curses at people that are trying to get get home, 1651 01:36:58,280 --> 01:37:01,320 Speaker 1: you know, on the subway. And it's the job of 1652 01:37:01,360 --> 01:37:07,040 Speaker 1: two police officers to approach this individual and deal with 1653 01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:10,880 Speaker 1: the situation. And if this, if this E d P. 1654 01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:15,400 Speaker 1: Mostly disturbed person, uh spits on one of them, or 1655 01:37:16,320 --> 01:37:18,720 Speaker 1: you know it just you know, tries to stab one 1656 01:37:18,720 --> 01:37:21,639 Speaker 1: of them with something they just don't know. And I 1657 01:37:21,760 --> 01:37:25,799 Speaker 1: was seeing in that moment their role between really acting 1658 01:37:26,040 --> 01:37:30,240 Speaker 1: as social worker on the spot there, you know, you know, sir, 1659 01:37:30,360 --> 01:37:33,080 Speaker 1: we know we need you to you know, they're they're 1660 01:37:33,120 --> 01:37:35,240 Speaker 1: trying to get him to go to a place where 1661 01:37:35,240 --> 01:37:37,000 Speaker 1: maybe he could get cleaned up and get some help. 1662 01:37:37,560 --> 01:37:40,439 Speaker 1: And you know he's causing a disturbance. They have police 1663 01:37:40,439 --> 01:37:43,519 Speaker 1: powers if they want to, because he's disturbing the piece too. 1664 01:37:43,960 --> 01:37:45,559 Speaker 1: You know, they don't want to arrest him, but they 1665 01:37:45,560 --> 01:37:48,920 Speaker 1: also can leave him. And I just it's the It's 1666 01:37:48,920 --> 01:37:55,040 Speaker 1: a classic moment of what UH uniformed law enforcement deals with. 1667 01:37:55,720 --> 01:37:59,559 Speaker 1: And look, it's it's not a I have a tremendous 1668 01:37:59,560 --> 01:38:02,840 Speaker 1: respect work because it's a job that needs to be done, 1669 01:38:03,000 --> 01:38:04,760 Speaker 1: and it's a job that honestly, I don't think I 1670 01:38:04,760 --> 01:38:07,600 Speaker 1: could do. I just it's just not something that I 1671 01:38:07,640 --> 01:38:10,160 Speaker 1: have in me, and so I have a tremendous amount 1672 01:38:10,160 --> 01:38:14,040 Speaker 1: of respect for for those who can do it. You know, 1673 01:38:14,200 --> 01:38:16,320 Speaker 1: I see these guys in Hollywood and I'm like, well, 1674 01:38:16,360 --> 01:38:19,719 Speaker 1: I could do that. I could. I see what the 1675 01:38:19,840 --> 01:38:23,280 Speaker 1: NYPD officers we're dealing with yesterday, and like, I just 1676 01:38:23,360 --> 01:38:25,320 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know if I could handle that, 1677 01:38:25,880 --> 01:38:28,240 Speaker 1: And so I just want it made me think on 1678 01:38:28,320 --> 01:38:31,880 Speaker 1: my home last night. You know. It's while on the 1679 01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:34,360 Speaker 1: one hand, I like to strike a balance between making 1680 01:38:34,400 --> 01:38:36,200 Speaker 1: sure that we look at all the facts and we're 1681 01:38:37,040 --> 01:38:41,679 Speaker 1: h honest about what happens in a major news story 1682 01:38:41,760 --> 01:38:45,720 Speaker 1: that involves an important and time sensitive police response like 1683 01:38:45,880 --> 01:38:49,439 Speaker 1: Las Vegas. Not only are they dealing with the life 1684 01:38:49,479 --> 01:38:52,760 Speaker 1: or debt situations of mass shootings in communities and law 1685 01:38:52,800 --> 01:38:55,200 Speaker 1: enforcements young with this and it can happen anywhere in 1686 01:38:55,200 --> 01:38:58,040 Speaker 1: any community across the country, and it does happen unfortunately 1687 01:38:59,040 --> 01:39:01,799 Speaker 1: far too off and shootings of all of all kinds, 1688 01:39:02,720 --> 01:39:06,200 Speaker 1: but also just in the day to day of law enforcement. 1689 01:39:06,320 --> 01:39:10,280 Speaker 1: It is those of you who have had exposure to it, 1690 01:39:10,479 --> 01:39:12,320 Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about. Those you who have done 1691 01:39:12,320 --> 01:39:14,720 Speaker 1: it know a lot more than those who just have 1692 01:39:14,800 --> 01:39:16,960 Speaker 1: a sense of it. But it's not like it is 1693 01:39:17,240 --> 01:39:20,559 Speaker 1: on law and order. There's a lot of you know, 1694 01:39:20,640 --> 01:39:26,040 Speaker 1: trying to really engage in in mediation work and conflict 1695 01:39:26,120 --> 01:39:30,360 Speaker 1: de escalation and communication with the community, and communication with 1696 01:39:30,400 --> 01:39:34,479 Speaker 1: people who on the one hand, you have to make 1697 01:39:34,520 --> 01:39:37,240 Speaker 1: sure they're not threatening others or causing problems for others 1698 01:39:37,320 --> 01:39:39,559 Speaker 1: in their hand. You know, you have sympathy for them, 1699 01:39:39,880 --> 01:39:41,960 Speaker 1: And I have sympathy for these two officers. You know, 1700 01:39:42,240 --> 01:39:45,559 Speaker 1: I guess these guys probably have There's two male officers. 1701 01:39:45,560 --> 01:39:48,880 Speaker 1: I'm guessing they both have wives back home. Maybe one 1702 01:39:49,000 --> 01:39:51,080 Speaker 1: or both of them have kids back home, and you 1703 01:39:51,120 --> 01:39:54,479 Speaker 1: know they're now engaged in a situation and engage in 1704 01:39:54,479 --> 01:39:57,639 Speaker 1: a situation where you know they could end up having 1705 01:39:57,680 --> 01:40:04,000 Speaker 1: to wrestle a clearly emotionally disturbed homeless guy who you 1706 01:40:04,040 --> 01:40:07,719 Speaker 1: can smell from. Again, I'm not saying it to be funny. 1707 01:40:07,720 --> 01:40:09,559 Speaker 1: I'm saying it just to give you a description. You 1708 01:40:09,600 --> 01:40:13,240 Speaker 1: could smell him on the different platforms. So when I 1709 01:40:13,240 --> 01:40:15,120 Speaker 1: was walking up the stairs, I didn't even see this guy. 1710 01:40:15,439 --> 01:40:17,720 Speaker 1: What is that? And you know it's sad. It's this 1711 01:40:17,880 --> 01:40:21,840 Speaker 1: somebody who's really been forgotten by society and is in 1712 01:40:21,880 --> 01:40:24,360 Speaker 1: desperate need of help. But you've got the officers there 1713 01:40:24,400 --> 01:40:27,280 Speaker 1: and they've got a de escalate and you know they 1714 01:40:27,280 --> 01:40:30,320 Speaker 1: don't know. You know, somebody goes from you know, somebody 1715 01:40:30,320 --> 01:40:35,160 Speaker 1: goes from being a a person in need to a threat, 1716 01:40:35,240 --> 01:40:38,479 Speaker 1: as law enforcement knows very quickly. And so they've got 1717 01:40:38,479 --> 01:40:41,040 Speaker 1: a on the one hand, be the social worker, on 1718 01:40:41,080 --> 01:40:45,280 Speaker 1: the other hand, be guardians, you know, be uh protecting, 1719 01:40:45,479 --> 01:40:47,720 Speaker 1: serving and protecting at the same time. Anyway, I just 1720 01:40:47,760 --> 01:40:50,680 Speaker 1: thought it was it was an example of what what 1721 01:40:50,760 --> 01:40:52,639 Speaker 1: really law enforce has to do day in and day out, 1722 01:40:52,800 --> 01:40:59,080 Speaker 1: and just much respect, much respect for everything from dealing 1723 01:40:59,160 --> 01:41:04,120 Speaker 1: with domestic disputes and uh crazy smelly guy on the 1724 01:41:04,160 --> 01:41:07,640 Speaker 1: subway to you know, swat an e s U response 1725 01:41:07,720 --> 01:41:11,360 Speaker 1: to critical mass casualty incidents. I mean, police has got 1726 01:41:11,360 --> 01:41:14,280 Speaker 1: a tough job and uh right, So I wanted to 1727 01:41:14,280 --> 01:41:19,080 Speaker 1: give this This is another perspective from the after action report. 1728 01:41:19,800 --> 01:41:21,519 Speaker 1: Uh you know. It's It's one thing to do a 1729 01:41:21,560 --> 01:41:24,800 Speaker 1: hot wash of a major incident and look into it 1730 01:41:24,920 --> 01:41:27,360 Speaker 1: as an analyst with all the with well at least 1731 01:41:27,400 --> 01:41:29,640 Speaker 1: a lot of the facts brought to Barretts. Another thing 1732 01:41:29,680 --> 01:41:32,960 Speaker 1: to just understand what the or have some appreciation for. 1733 01:41:33,040 --> 01:41:35,640 Speaker 1: I can't understand, having never done it, but to have 1734 01:41:35,840 --> 01:41:39,920 Speaker 1: a basic appreciation and respect for the job day in 1735 01:41:39,960 --> 01:41:42,439 Speaker 1: and day out in communities all across the country. Um, 1736 01:41:42,479 --> 01:41:46,400 Speaker 1: and I absolutely do, and I can one day. Maybe 1737 01:41:46,400 --> 01:41:48,519 Speaker 1: I'll tell you some of my favorite stories from when 1738 01:41:48,560 --> 01:41:52,479 Speaker 1: I was assisting NYPD guys as a terrorism expert back 1739 01:41:52,520 --> 01:41:55,800 Speaker 1: in the day. They had great stories. Um, but we'll 1740 01:41:55,840 --> 01:41:58,280 Speaker 1: get to that another time. We'll do Team Buck Speaks 1741 01:41:58,520 --> 01:42:02,680 Speaker 1: right after this break. Hey, teams, So I have a 1742 01:42:02,760 --> 01:42:05,960 Speaker 1: few updates from the world of Chef Buck real quick. 1743 01:42:06,040 --> 01:42:09,960 Speaker 1: I've got Indian buttered chicken, which I didn't know that 1744 01:42:10,040 --> 01:42:12,439 Speaker 1: was a dish. Apparently it is waiting for me at home, 1745 01:42:12,600 --> 01:42:14,400 Speaker 1: which I will let you know how that goes a 1746 01:42:14,400 --> 01:42:16,439 Speaker 1: lot of spices I had to throw in there, a 1747 01:42:16,439 --> 01:42:20,400 Speaker 1: lot of measuring, but hopefully will be good. At one 1748 01:42:20,439 --> 01:42:24,960 Speaker 1: point the the recipe called for heavy cream, and you know, 1749 01:42:25,000 --> 01:42:26,759 Speaker 1: maybe I went a little extra on the heavy cream, 1750 01:42:26,760 --> 01:42:28,559 Speaker 1: because can you really ever have too much of that? 1751 01:42:29,280 --> 01:42:31,519 Speaker 1: But I'm looking forward to seeing how that one turned out. 1752 01:42:31,560 --> 01:42:33,160 Speaker 1: I will tell you that my pulled pork and all 1753 01:42:33,200 --> 01:42:36,760 Speaker 1: of your tips for making the pulled pork as good 1754 01:42:36,760 --> 01:42:38,920 Speaker 1: as it could be it was. It's already gone. I 1755 01:42:39,080 --> 01:42:41,840 Speaker 1: I'm realizing now as I tell you this that over 1756 01:42:41,880 --> 01:42:44,880 Speaker 1: the course of uh, I guess four or five days, 1757 01:42:45,360 --> 01:42:48,559 Speaker 1: I ate two pounds of pork. That seems like a lot. 1758 01:42:48,920 --> 01:42:50,680 Speaker 1: Maybe I need to tone it down a little bit. 1759 01:42:50,920 --> 01:42:53,400 Speaker 1: Psych never gonna have it. It's amazing. I was having 1760 01:42:53,439 --> 01:42:55,040 Speaker 1: it for breakfast, I was having it for launch, I 1761 01:42:55,080 --> 01:42:56,519 Speaker 1: was having it for dinner. It was so good. It's 1762 01:42:56,600 --> 01:43:00,880 Speaker 1: very versatile, very versatile pork. You know. So I wanted 1763 01:43:00,920 --> 01:43:03,519 Speaker 1: to get into some Team Bucks speaks here because I've 1764 01:43:03,520 --> 01:43:10,160 Speaker 1: been getting so many compelling, funny, kind constructive criticism, all 1765 01:43:10,240 --> 01:43:13,759 Speaker 1: kinds of messages on Facebook dot com slash buck Sexton. 1766 01:43:13,880 --> 01:43:15,719 Speaker 1: So if you want to get in on that action, 1767 01:43:16,080 --> 01:43:17,920 Speaker 1: we here in the Freedom hud are looking through the 1768 01:43:17,960 --> 01:43:21,799 Speaker 1: Facebook messages all the time, Facebook dot com, slash buck Sexton, 1769 01:43:22,000 --> 01:43:25,040 Speaker 1: and maybe you'll get on the show. Here we go, 1770 01:43:25,120 --> 01:43:28,719 Speaker 1: we have Matthew reading in. In keeping with my earlier message, 1771 01:43:28,760 --> 01:43:30,639 Speaker 1: I wanted to let you know that I bought all 1772 01:43:30,840 --> 01:43:35,080 Speaker 1: three volumes of the Gulag Archipelago, which arrived on Monday. 1773 01:43:35,160 --> 01:43:38,599 Speaker 1: I finished volume one last night. I really wish this 1774 01:43:38,760 --> 01:43:41,599 Speaker 1: was mandatory reading for seniors in high school, and if not, 1775 01:43:41,720 --> 01:43:45,920 Speaker 1: then definitely freshman in college. Hell, it should be mandatory 1776 01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:49,760 Speaker 1: reading for anyone who votes Matthew completely agree with you. 1777 01:43:50,240 --> 01:43:56,519 Speaker 1: Glad you enjoyed Sulsan Eatsen's Gulag Archipelago, a critical work 1778 01:43:57,160 --> 01:44:00,360 Speaker 1: depressing a lot of Russian great Russian richer is a 1779 01:44:00,360 --> 01:44:04,200 Speaker 1: little depressing, but very very important. Nonetheless, Okay, we have 1780 01:44:04,439 --> 01:44:06,920 Speaker 1: Duke writing in with the following, Hey, Buck, I just 1781 01:44:06,960 --> 01:44:09,960 Speaker 1: finished listening to Monday's podcast. I wanted to thank you 1782 01:44:10,000 --> 01:44:13,720 Speaker 1: for your dissertation on pain. Over forty years ago, I 1783 01:44:13,760 --> 01:44:17,559 Speaker 1: had multiple tendon tears and separations, mostly my right knee 1784 01:44:17,880 --> 01:44:21,360 Speaker 1: I've been told many times I have a really cool swagger. 1785 01:44:21,800 --> 01:44:25,000 Speaker 1: Laugh out loud, it's a limp. Well, Duke, you're not 1786 01:44:25,040 --> 01:44:27,880 Speaker 1: the only one. I limped too, And uh, I'm glad 1787 01:44:27,920 --> 01:44:32,200 Speaker 1: that you appreciated my discussion of chronic pain. And I 1788 01:44:32,240 --> 01:44:34,080 Speaker 1: know some of you probably thought that I was taking 1789 01:44:34,080 --> 01:44:37,599 Speaker 1: a ride in a wha ambulance. But it's a it's 1790 01:44:37,600 --> 01:44:39,720 Speaker 1: a very once you deal with it, I'm telling you, 1791 01:44:39,880 --> 01:44:41,680 Speaker 1: it changes your outlook on a lot of things. And 1792 01:44:41,720 --> 01:44:45,160 Speaker 1: I've been dealing with consistent pain for a very long time. 1793 01:44:45,840 --> 01:44:49,400 Speaker 1: Steve writes in with the following, So Vegas law enforcement 1794 01:44:49,479 --> 01:44:54,799 Speaker 1: changed their story and their timeline, what else will change? Steve, 1795 01:44:54,960 --> 01:44:57,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, And look I I do not in 1796 01:44:57,040 --> 01:45:01,760 Speaker 1: any way impugne the motives or integrity of any law 1797 01:45:01,840 --> 01:45:05,200 Speaker 1: enforcement officers involved in what's going on in the Vegas investigation. 1798 01:45:05,720 --> 01:45:10,200 Speaker 1: But there does need to be clarity and accuracy in this, 1799 01:45:10,320 --> 01:45:13,800 Speaker 1: and when there's not, we are allowed to ask questions. 1800 01:45:13,880 --> 01:45:16,960 Speaker 1: That much I think is fair to say. Alright, a 1801 01:45:16,960 --> 01:45:20,839 Speaker 1: cooking tip, come in and hear from uh Ken. He writes, 1802 01:45:20,920 --> 01:45:23,440 Speaker 1: By the way, I agree with your guest that suggests 1803 01:45:23,479 --> 01:45:26,639 Speaker 1: using an install pot instead of a slow cooker. I've 1804 01:45:26,640 --> 01:45:31,240 Speaker 1: actually always had a concern with placing uncooked meats, especially chicken, 1805 01:45:31,640 --> 01:45:34,880 Speaker 1: in a container at room temperature. Install pots sears and 1806 01:45:35,000 --> 01:45:37,960 Speaker 1: quickly cooks and holds temp for a long time. Didn't 1807 01:45:37,960 --> 01:45:41,160 Speaker 1: want to rain on your slow cooker parade, Shields High, Well, Ken, 1808 01:45:41,280 --> 01:45:43,880 Speaker 1: don't worry my My slow cooker parade can get rained 1809 01:45:43,920 --> 01:45:48,799 Speaker 1: on anytime. And Uh, I will look into this install 1810 01:45:48,840 --> 01:45:56,360 Speaker 1: pot you are mentioning. Uh, James writes in with an 1811 01:45:56,400 --> 01:45:59,680 Speaker 1: audio analysis, Okay, well I can't really This is an 1812 01:45:59,680 --> 01:46:01,320 Speaker 1: audio analysis that I can't play for you right now 1813 01:46:01,320 --> 01:46:03,000 Speaker 1: on air, So I'm gonna have to skip over that one, James. 1814 01:46:03,040 --> 01:46:06,880 Speaker 1: But James, I will listen to your audio analysis, Alex. Right, 1815 01:46:06,960 --> 01:46:09,840 Speaker 1: same with the following Thank you, Buck. I did enjoy 1816 01:46:09,920 --> 01:46:13,120 Speaker 1: learning about and celebrating Lepanto day. I listened to your 1817 01:46:13,280 --> 01:46:18,360 Speaker 1: entire show, Shields High, Alex, Well, Alex, thank you so much. Um. 1818 01:46:18,400 --> 01:46:21,920 Speaker 1: I have done, in fact, a longer deep dive that 1819 01:46:22,040 --> 01:46:24,080 Speaker 1: was two hours or an hour and a half long 1820 01:46:24,680 --> 01:46:28,200 Speaker 1: into the Lepanto battle the run up to it, and 1821 01:46:28,240 --> 01:46:30,680 Speaker 1: even added some production effects if you're into that kind 1822 01:46:30,680 --> 01:46:33,920 Speaker 1: of thing, so that I'd like to bring that back 1823 01:46:33,960 --> 01:46:37,439 Speaker 1: at some point all right, Jennifer writes in with Buck, 1824 01:46:38,040 --> 01:46:39,960 Speaker 1: I agree with you for the most part on not 1825 01:46:40,080 --> 01:46:42,519 Speaker 1: having phones on at the dinner table. But keep in 1826 01:46:42,560 --> 01:46:45,360 Speaker 1: mind some of us have kids at home with a babysitter, 1827 01:46:45,640 --> 01:46:48,919 Speaker 1: and we have to remain accessible. Our oldest is thirteen 1828 01:46:49,120 --> 01:46:51,760 Speaker 1: and sometimes watches his younger siblings while we go out 1829 01:46:51,800 --> 01:46:54,040 Speaker 1: to dinner. Gotta keep the phones at the ready just 1830 01:46:54,080 --> 01:46:57,040 Speaker 1: in case things go south at home. Otherwise, completely agree 1831 01:46:57,080 --> 01:47:00,600 Speaker 1: with you, Yeah, Jennifer, of course they're extenuating circle stances. 1832 01:47:00,680 --> 01:47:03,400 Speaker 1: You know, if I was waiting for for a big 1833 01:47:03,439 --> 01:47:08,200 Speaker 1: call about a job or something, I probably But the 1834 01:47:08,280 --> 01:47:10,439 Speaker 1: general rule, and obviously anything that has to do with 1835 01:47:10,479 --> 01:47:13,680 Speaker 1: safety or medical necessity, you keep your phone out. But 1836 01:47:13,720 --> 01:47:17,000 Speaker 1: the general rule, I think for social purposes should be 1837 01:47:17,880 --> 01:47:21,280 Speaker 1: that folks keep their phones away whenever possible. And I'm 1838 01:47:21,280 --> 01:47:25,080 Speaker 1: glad you agree. Paul writes in with the following California 1839 01:47:25,320 --> 01:47:29,080 Speaker 1: fires are a valid topic. They're getting worse every year. 1840 01:47:29,600 --> 01:47:33,839 Speaker 1: Clearing underbrush, controlled burns, and fire breaks have been banned 1841 01:47:33,920 --> 01:47:38,080 Speaker 1: in the name of environmentalism. People have suffered and millions 1842 01:47:38,080 --> 01:47:40,920 Speaker 1: have been spent fighting them. And you should have seen 1843 01:47:40,960 --> 01:47:44,240 Speaker 1: the smoke column I drove through yesterday not exactly a 1844 01:47:44,320 --> 01:47:47,000 Speaker 1: clean air event. Well, Paul, thanks for writing in on this. 1845 01:47:47,200 --> 01:47:49,280 Speaker 1: I hope you found the parts of the show that 1846 01:47:49,320 --> 01:47:54,759 Speaker 1: we did on the wildfires to be informative and and worthwhile. UM. 1847 01:47:54,800 --> 01:47:57,360 Speaker 1: I try to do more than just give you the 1848 01:47:57,400 --> 01:48:00,720 Speaker 1: headlines here. I have the time because of when the 1849 01:48:00,720 --> 01:48:03,879 Speaker 1: show airs to do research, and I take full advantage 1850 01:48:03,880 --> 01:48:06,200 Speaker 1: of that, and also to line up guests who aren't 1851 01:48:06,240 --> 01:48:09,360 Speaker 1: just gonna regurgitate what I say. I bring guests on 1852 01:48:09,400 --> 01:48:11,920 Speaker 1: who either have a really interesting p o v lit 1853 01:48:12,160 --> 01:48:15,439 Speaker 1: interesting point of view, or an expertise that will enrich 1854 01:48:15,640 --> 01:48:18,479 Speaker 1: the show, or that are just really funny. So those 1855 01:48:18,520 --> 01:48:20,519 Speaker 1: are my Those are my standards for what I try 1856 01:48:20,520 --> 01:48:23,759 Speaker 1: to do here in the Freedom Hunt. John writes in Buck, 1857 01:48:23,960 --> 01:48:27,240 Speaker 1: so sorry to hear about your old man pain. Big 1858 01:48:27,280 --> 01:48:31,519 Speaker 1: fan of your show. UM, I listened to your podcast 1859 01:48:31,560 --> 01:48:34,639 Speaker 1: after Rush most days, but lately yours is the first. 1860 01:48:34,920 --> 01:48:37,479 Speaker 1: I wanted to pass along contact info for someone that 1861 01:48:37,520 --> 01:48:40,719 Speaker 1: can get you back to normal and hope it helps. 1862 01:48:40,960 --> 01:48:44,360 Speaker 1: And he gave me a New York doctor. Wow, thank you, 1863 01:48:44,560 --> 01:48:48,320 Speaker 1: thanks John. I will take a look and maybe somebody 1864 01:48:48,320 --> 01:48:50,519 Speaker 1: can help me here. That would be great. I also 1865 01:48:50,600 --> 01:48:52,479 Speaker 1: had somebody I'll see if I can find it right 1866 01:48:52,520 --> 01:48:56,479 Speaker 1: in about how her husband is an orthopedic surgeon, and um, 1867 01:48:56,520 --> 01:48:58,320 Speaker 1: I'll get to that. Stay with me on that for 1868 01:48:58,360 --> 01:49:02,200 Speaker 1: a second. Aries writes in Yesterday on the podcast, I 1869 01:49:02,280 --> 01:49:06,519 Speaker 1: learned a bit more about Columbus and the trip than 1870 01:49:06,560 --> 01:49:09,760 Speaker 1: I had heard before. Usually I tend to snooze through 1871 01:49:09,800 --> 01:49:13,479 Speaker 1: your history lessons, but at the outside of the show 1872 01:49:13,600 --> 01:49:15,240 Speaker 1: you said there would be some stuff about him I've 1873 01:49:15,280 --> 01:49:18,320 Speaker 1: never heard before, and you were right. Most interesting was 1874 01:49:18,360 --> 01:49:20,320 Speaker 1: the fact that they were looking for a sea route 1875 01:49:20,360 --> 01:49:24,599 Speaker 1: because of the hottest incursions into Spain. Well, Aries, I'm 1876 01:49:24,640 --> 01:49:26,960 Speaker 1: glad you enjoyed that one, and I'm glad I kept 1877 01:49:26,960 --> 01:49:28,920 Speaker 1: you on your toes. And you know, I try to 1878 01:49:28,960 --> 01:49:30,680 Speaker 1: mix in the history for those who love it, but 1879 01:49:30,760 --> 01:49:32,559 Speaker 1: not do so much that those of you who would 1880 01:49:32,560 --> 01:49:35,680 Speaker 1: prefer we stay on current events. I feel like I 1881 01:49:35,760 --> 01:49:40,160 Speaker 1: am going off the rails. Caleb writes in Hey Buck, 1882 01:49:40,200 --> 01:49:44,040 Speaker 1: what happened to the article by Gilly on colonialism the 1883 01:49:44,040 --> 01:49:49,320 Speaker 1: Case for Colonialism? I can't find it anywhere on the internet. Well, Caleb, 1884 01:49:49,439 --> 01:49:53,840 Speaker 1: it was retracted in a sense. They tried to unpublish 1885 01:49:53,880 --> 01:49:58,839 Speaker 1: it because it was so heretical to this essential belief 1886 01:49:58,920 --> 01:50:01,679 Speaker 1: on the left that colonial is um is responsible for 1887 01:50:01,920 --> 01:50:03,800 Speaker 1: whatever ills in the world. You want to make it 1888 01:50:03,840 --> 01:50:08,320 Speaker 1: responsible for today, So I do have a version of 1889 01:50:08,320 --> 01:50:10,639 Speaker 1: it UM. I'm meant to post this yesterday and get 1890 01:50:10,640 --> 01:50:12,800 Speaker 1: it to our web team. I'm gonna send that to 1891 01:50:12,880 --> 01:50:16,000 Speaker 1: them now, assuming that my link still works. I think 1892 01:50:16,000 --> 01:50:18,200 Speaker 1: it does. I didn't take screen grabs of the articles. 1893 01:50:18,240 --> 01:50:21,320 Speaker 1: It's like fifteen pages, but I will try to post 1894 01:50:21,320 --> 01:50:25,679 Speaker 1: that up on buck sexton dot com. Chris Tucker writes 1895 01:50:25,720 --> 01:50:28,479 Speaker 1: in Buck, I really connected to your talk on chronic pain. 1896 01:50:29,000 --> 01:50:32,680 Speaker 1: I'm a registered nurse and also have peripheral neuropathy in 1897 01:50:32,720 --> 01:50:35,519 Speaker 1: my right foot due to tarsal tunnel syndrome. I have 1898 01:50:35,600 --> 01:50:38,640 Speaker 1: the sensation of red hot needles crank down on my 1899 01:50:38,680 --> 01:50:41,120 Speaker 1: toes or just a sting like a thousand hornets all 1900 01:50:41,160 --> 01:50:44,040 Speaker 1: in one location. I don't use opioids because I can't 1901 01:50:44,080 --> 01:50:47,080 Speaker 1: take them and work, and they really won't work for me. 1902 01:50:47,479 --> 01:50:51,120 Speaker 1: I use ibu, ibuprofrin and Gaba penton. Many of us 1903 01:50:51,120 --> 01:50:53,400 Speaker 1: are out here going to work doing our jobs and 1904 01:50:53,400 --> 01:50:56,040 Speaker 1: doing so in pain. I also have arthritis in my 1905 01:50:56,120 --> 01:50:58,360 Speaker 1: hands and wrists. We do what we have to do. 1906 01:50:58,800 --> 01:51:02,200 Speaker 1: Thank you well, Chris thank you for writing in and uh, 1907 01:51:02,240 --> 01:51:08,240 Speaker 1: certainly yeah, I do sympathize um, and I thank you 1908 01:51:08,360 --> 01:51:10,720 Speaker 1: very much for for your note. Um, I wanted to 1909 01:51:10,760 --> 01:51:15,040 Speaker 1: do more. We'll do more. Team Bucks Speaks tomorrow or Friday, 1910 01:51:15,080 --> 01:51:16,680 Speaker 1: maybe both. I don't know. I really like this. I 1911 01:51:16,720 --> 01:51:19,400 Speaker 1: like reading in reading on air. What you guys all 1912 01:51:19,479 --> 01:51:22,559 Speaker 1: right in Bucks Exton dot Facebook, dot com, slash buck 1913 01:51:22,640 --> 01:51:25,559 Speaker 1: Sexton if you would like to join the team online, 1914 01:51:25,560 --> 01:51:28,400 Speaker 1: so to speak. Also Bucks Exton dot com, slash store 1915 01:51:28,640 --> 01:51:32,400 Speaker 1: if you want to get some gear. Already thinking about 1916 01:51:32,400 --> 01:51:34,920 Speaker 1: the shows for tomorrow and Friday, I think they're gonna 1917 01:51:34,920 --> 01:51:37,960 Speaker 1: be really interesting. Uh, And if you have any thoughts 1918 01:51:38,000 --> 01:51:39,519 Speaker 1: or ideas, share them with me, also those of you 1919 01:51:39,600 --> 01:51:41,720 Speaker 1: on Twitter, Bucks Exton on Twitter, and I try to 1920 01:51:41,720 --> 01:51:44,360 Speaker 1: look at my Twitter feed during the show live as 1921 01:51:44,360 --> 01:51:47,120 Speaker 1: well as after hours, So shoot me your thoughts there 1922 01:51:47,600 --> 01:51:51,599 Speaker 1: and until tomorrow, whether you listen to me live or 1923 01:51:51,640 --> 01:51:54,080 Speaker 1: on podcasts or however. Shield tip