WEBVTT - Dantiel W. Moniz: What You Make It

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<v Speaker 1>Pushkin, locked and loaded. The American Patriot Raleigh took to

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<v Speaker 1>the steps of the state Capitol today in a world

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<v Speaker 1>gone haywire. Sometimes art is the only thing that can

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<v Speaker 1>make sense of it all. The Georgia three percenters say

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<v Speaker 1>they are strictly a defensive force. Yeah right. I'm Ashley

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<v Speaker 1>Ford and this is the Chronicles of Now, where we

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<v Speaker 1>ask writers to dream up short stories inspired by the news.

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<v Speaker 1>There are more than five hundred militia groups in the US.

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<v Speaker 1>Right wing militias and vigilante groups have been part of

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<v Speaker 1>the American landscape for decades, but a recent movement seems

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<v Speaker 1>to have focused their attention here to demand those in

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<v Speaker 1>attendance a Trump voters angry at the ongoing lawlessness across America,

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<v Speaker 1>threatening to take matters into their own hands at a

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<v Speaker 1>time of uncertainty. Some law enforcement officials have even blessed

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<v Speaker 1>or turned a blind eye to armed militias upset about

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<v Speaker 1>Black Lives Matter. Recently, a sheriff in Florida made news

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<v Speaker 1>when he issued an unusual statement. Daniels vows that he

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<v Speaker 1>will deputize regular citizens who have gun permits to help

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<v Speaker 1>his department respond should violent protests break out in Clay County.

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<v Speaker 1>It wouldn't be the first time vigilantes have taken matters

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<v Speaker 1>into their own hands. Did the West Bank turn into

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<v Speaker 1>the Wild West? In the days following Hurricane Katrine? How

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<v Speaker 1>many people you shoot? Thirty eight people? Trayvon Martin, an

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<v Speaker 1>unarmed black teenager, was shot down by a white neighborhood watchman.

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<v Speaker 1>Video captures the final moments of Ahmad Arbory's life while

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<v Speaker 1>he was jogging through this brunchway. There's something about, Oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>We're about to lose this power. Dantel dubbed you. Monice,

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<v Speaker 1>is the author of a forthcoming collection of stories, Milk

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<v Speaker 1>Blood Heat. Her story here explores what life might be

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<v Speaker 1>like in a deputized in America. That this is fiction,

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<v Speaker 1>but this is like a very real terror that has

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<v Speaker 1>been going on in this country since its foundations. Within

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<v Speaker 1>hours of the press conference, gun and animal stores throughout

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<v Speaker 1>the county sold out. Customizable metal badges catering to that

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<v Speaker 1>uniquely American appetite for playing cops and robbers were back

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<v Speaker 1>ordered online until late October. Production shut down, as it

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<v Speaker 1>was during the plague, but one could still find the

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<v Speaker 1>golden shaff stars used for cowboys and Indians and though

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<v Speaker 1>slightly marring the illusion, they did in a pinch lawful

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<v Speaker 1>god owners, the sheriff had said, But even if there

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<v Speaker 1>had been something to buy, the phrase wouldn't mean them,

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<v Speaker 1>not Jaya or her two brothers, and not her mother,

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<v Speaker 1>who slept with a pink and silver luger under her

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<v Speaker 1>pillow just in case things went bad in the night.

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<v Speaker 1>Two weeks ago, a man was executed for unpaid parking tickets,

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<v Speaker 1>and yesterday at toddler who'd grabbed a pack of gum

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<v Speaker 1>from a shelf at the Quick Mark was shot as

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<v Speaker 1>soon as his oblivious mother stepped outside the store with

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<v Speaker 1>the child in her arms. Another one they'd heard about.

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<v Speaker 1>She'd been doing nothing, daydreaming on a park bench, but

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<v Speaker 1>they claimed they'd seen a weapon, and anyway, wasn't it

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<v Speaker 1>suspicious the act of her sitting? And we actually incredible

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<v Speaker 1>affirmation that these criminals were anything could become a crime.

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<v Speaker 1>With the Deputize on every corner, watching in grocery stores,

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<v Speaker 1>in car lots and coffee shops, shit like this only

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<v Speaker 1>happens in backwood city. People outside the South were saying,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't do that here. They did that there in

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago and New York and La. The only difference was

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<v Speaker 1>none of their elected officials got on the internet to

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<v Speaker 1>sanction it. Clocking out of work that evening, Jaya was exhausted.

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<v Speaker 1>It had been a stressful day at the store. They'd

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<v Speaker 1>finally gotten in toilet paper and pasta, but there was

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<v Speaker 1>relatively little neat and the lines were still too long.

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<v Speaker 1>No one was happy about anything. One deputized prominent Adams

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<v Speaker 1>Apple no mask, went through her line twice, the first

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<v Speaker 1>with two six packs of light beer, a chicken tender sub,

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<v Speaker 1>and a gallon of store brand sweet tea, the second

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<v Speaker 1>an hour later, for just a TwixT Both times, his

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<v Speaker 1>eyes on her intensely. The sky was streaked cantalope from

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<v Speaker 1>the setting sun, the sidewalk still damp from rain. Jaia

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<v Speaker 1>through the disposable mask her employers had provided her into

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<v Speaker 1>a waste basket and put back on the cloth one

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<v Speaker 1>she brought from home, a black mask with three bold

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<v Speaker 1>white letters B LM. Jaya. We have to be supportive

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<v Speaker 1>of all our customers. We don't get political here, her

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<v Speaker 1>manager had said this with exaggerated patience, Blinking rapidly, her

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<v Speaker 1>soft spotted hands clasped at her chest. Life is what

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<v Speaker 1>you make it, and our company policy centers on positive engagement.

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<v Speaker 1>You understand right. Jaia had looked past her as she

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<v Speaker 1>spoke toward the customer service counter, where two of her

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<v Speaker 1>co workers issued money orders and lotto tickets, their lower

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<v Speaker 1>faces covered by gray scale American flags with a thin

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<v Speaker 1>blue line. Day after day, her manager never said anything

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<v Speaker 1>to them. Jaia decided she wouldn't tell her mother about this.

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<v Speaker 1>That morning, when she'd put the mask on, her mother

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<v Speaker 1>had said, you're asking for trouble. Jaia put her head down,

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<v Speaker 1>shouldered her tote, and began walking. She used to love

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<v Speaker 1>this unoccupied time, the meditative space between leaving a destination

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<v Speaker 1>and arriving someplace else, mused, extrumming through her mind, But

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<v Speaker 1>these days she left her earbuds out, the walks instead,

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<v Speaker 1>filled with static anxiety. Five blocks and she'd be outside

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<v Speaker 1>her second brother's job, where she would buy a smoothie

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<v Speaker 1>and find a table and read until he got off.

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<v Speaker 1>As much as they could. They walked home together. After

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<v Speaker 1>a few minutes, Jaia felt something and increase in intensity

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<v Speaker 1>of the static ticking up her spine. She looked over

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<v Speaker 1>her shoulder and saw several feet back the deputized man

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<v Speaker 1>from her line. Her mother's instructions zipped through her head.

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<v Speaker 1>If it happens to you, find somewhere safe. She quickened

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<v Speaker 1>her pace, eyes darting toward the storefronts around her. A

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<v Speaker 1>furniture boutique, a beauty parlor, a party shop, all shuddered.

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<v Speaker 1>There was nowhere to duck inside. Jaia tried to calm

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<v Speaker 1>her breath. She slid the metal nail file she always

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<v Speaker 1>carried from her pocket and gripped it in her fist.

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<v Speaker 1>As she rounded the corner of the next street, the

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<v Speaker 1>deputized closed the distance between them, grabbing her arm and

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<v Speaker 1>slinging her against the concrete wall of a closed Chinese takeout.

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<v Speaker 1>Jaia heard music from across the street and locked eyes

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<v Speaker 1>with a woman on her balcony. If you can't find

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<v Speaker 1>a safe place, find a witness. After a moment, the

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<v Speaker 1>woman looked away, picked up her portable speaker, and her

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<v Speaker 1>read inside. Once the sliding door closed, they were alone.

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<v Speaker 1>He pressed jay Heard against the wall and smiled, blocking

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<v Speaker 1>her with his body, one hand flat against her chest,

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<v Speaker 1>the other on his gun. His badge was plastic, likely

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<v Speaker 1>a last resort purchased from the local dollar store, and

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<v Speaker 1>briefly she wondered what he'd done with the playcuffs. It

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<v Speaker 1>was surely packaged with But it didn't matter what the

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<v Speaker 1>badge was made of, or that it was a toy.

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<v Speaker 1>It only mattered that he believed in it. Do you know?

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<v Speaker 1>He asked her, why you're being detained? He sounded so polite,

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<v Speaker 1>so normal. He could have been saying, how are you today?

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<v Speaker 1>This common man? With her heart beneath his hand, he

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<v Speaker 1>let up on her and pulled the mask from her mouth. This,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, fingering the cloth. Well, it's defamation of character,

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<v Speaker 1>plain and simple, the same language they now used whenever

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<v Speaker 1>a journalist was killed. She knew enough to know what

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<v Speaker 1>happened next. If she was lucky, there might be outrage,

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<v Speaker 1>a new hashtag on Twitter. And if she wasn't lucky, well,

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<v Speaker 1>Jaya's hand tensed around the nail file. He wouldn't expect

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<v Speaker 1>her to fight, which meant she must. In her head,

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<v Speaker 1>her mother held her said, don't let them see you

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<v Speaker 1>beg That was in Jama Kumara narrating What We Make

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<v Speaker 1>It by Dantio w Monice Hi Dantio Hi Ashley. The

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<v Speaker 1>news hook for your story involves the sheriff of Clay County, Florida,

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<v Speaker 1>near Jacksonville, who recently said he'd deputized every gun owner

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<v Speaker 1>if his deputies couldn't handle Black Lives Matter protesters. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember when that was said, and I remember a distinct

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<v Speaker 1>chill down my spine at hearing someone say that, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess out loud. What did you think when you first

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<v Speaker 1>heard about that. I mean, honestly, it froze me. I

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<v Speaker 1>was looking and seeing the headline, and I thought, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>this is something that so many people feel. It already happens.

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<v Speaker 1>There's vigilantes that, you know, neighborhood watch. If you look

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<v Speaker 1>at something as simple as Trayvon Martin, that would have

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<v Speaker 1>been a situation of a deputized person. But just to

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<v Speaker 1>hear someone say it out loud and for whatever nefarious purposes,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know this person is up for reelection, Oh

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to get on the good side of these people,

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<v Speaker 1>It just felt like that's a moment that needs to

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<v Speaker 1>be looked at, that needs to be examined. That Sheriff

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<v Speaker 1>Darryl Daniels is himself a black man. Yeah, yeah, What

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<v Speaker 1>do you make of a black law enforcement official appealing

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<v Speaker 1>to gun owners in a southern state. So that is

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<v Speaker 1>the other complicated part of the story that I chose

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<v Speaker 1>not to for the purposes of the story, you know, portray,

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<v Speaker 1>But I felt as if it made sense to me.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems that, you know, if this is someone who

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<v Speaker 1>is an accounty that upholds these kind of patriotic, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>type of laws, that this person who's so desperate to

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<v Speaker 1>gain that footholds that he seemed this power that he

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<v Speaker 1>has seems that they would do anything. And so to me,

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<v Speaker 1>it falls in line with I don't know, can I

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<v Speaker 1>say coonery? Is that allowed me? Yeah? I just felt like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so this is someone who has been given power who

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<v Speaker 1>feels like they want to keep it by whatever means,

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<v Speaker 1>and if that appeals to him to say, oh, let's

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<v Speaker 1>shoot down protesters in the street, then let's do that.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's a little bit of evil that also is

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<v Speaker 1>just chilling. Oh yeah, but a tale is all this time? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>How person, Sinol was this story to you? Did you

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<v Speaker 1>draw from experiences in your own life in order to

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<v Speaker 1>write it? I mean, you know, at a base level,

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<v Speaker 1>if you are a black woman who lives in America,

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<v Speaker 1>you have consciously or unconsciously experienced prejudices and racism against you.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, it's it's easy in that way. But

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<v Speaker 1>for me, I just thought, what would be the most

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<v Speaker 1>terrifying thing, And the most terrifying thing is to go

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<v Speaker 1>through life not being able to believe in what you

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<v Speaker 1>believe in, being attacked for what you believe in, and

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<v Speaker 1>then being killed for what you believe in. And whether

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<v Speaker 1>you know, whether you think Jaya at the end dies

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<v Speaker 1>or doesn't die, or you know, that's a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>I've left a little bit ambivalent, But it's terrifying and

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<v Speaker 1>it's real. It's what happens every day in this country.

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<v Speaker 1>Poles show that large majorities of Americans support Black Lives

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<v Speaker 1>Matter and their aim of eliminating police violence against black

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<v Speaker 1>people specifically. Yet Trump is doing everything can, it seems like,

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<v Speaker 1>to stir up a racist reaction. How do you think

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to play out for him in twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it might work in his favor. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that the people who support him, regardless of countless evidence

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<v Speaker 1>that he is not who he says he is, He

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<v Speaker 1>does not have the intentions for this country that he

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<v Speaker 1>has said that he has. I think that despite all

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<v Speaker 1>of that, these people have like, you know, bought in

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<v Speaker 1>and now they're like, I have to, I have to.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's like a bad investment that you've put

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<v Speaker 1>all of your money into, but to take it out

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<v Speaker 1>would be detrimental to not just your economic wealth, but

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<v Speaker 1>also your pride. When I think that Americans cannot suffer

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<v Speaker 1>damage to their pride, it's like almost like the worst

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<v Speaker 1>thing that could happen. So unfortunately, all of the discourse

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<v Speaker 1>that he's doing is working in his favor. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>hoping that the people who are now becoming more awake

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<v Speaker 1>to the situation, will you use the power that they

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<v Speaker 1>have and the privilege that they have to enact some

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<v Speaker 1>different course than where it looks like we're heading for

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty. I hope that you are not right, but

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see saying, you know, I know say, but we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see what happens. It's really interesting. Thank you, Dantill W. Monise,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for your story and thanks for coming on the

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<v Speaker 1>Chronicles of Now. Thank you so much for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>You can read my full interview with Dantill W. Monie

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<v Speaker 1>on our website Chronicles dot fm, where you can also

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<v Speaker 1>read the story you just heard and other short fiction

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<v Speaker 1>Heather Faine, and Eric Sandler for the Chronicles of Now podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Ashley Ford. Thanks for listening. The com pat a

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<v Speaker 1>pocket of the tone