1 00:00:15,130 --> 00:00:22,530 Speaker 1: Pushkin, locked and loaded. The American Patriot Raleigh took to 2 00:00:22,530 --> 00:00:26,890 Speaker 1: the steps of the state Capitol today in a world 3 00:00:26,930 --> 00:00:31,010 Speaker 1: gone haywire. Sometimes art is the only thing that can 4 00:00:31,050 --> 00:00:34,410 Speaker 1: make sense of it all. The Georgia three percenters say 5 00:00:34,410 --> 00:00:39,730 Speaker 1: they are strictly a defensive force. Yeah right. I'm Ashley 6 00:00:39,810 --> 00:00:42,890 Speaker 1: Ford and this is the Chronicles of Now, where we 7 00:00:42,970 --> 00:00:46,770 Speaker 1: ask writers to dream up short stories inspired by the news. 8 00:00:47,130 --> 00:00:49,930 Speaker 1: There are more than five hundred militia groups in the US. 9 00:00:51,090 --> 00:00:53,770 Speaker 1: Right wing militias and vigilante groups have been part of 10 00:00:53,770 --> 00:00:59,890 Speaker 1: the American landscape for decades, but a recent movement seems 11 00:00:59,930 --> 00:01:04,610 Speaker 1: to have focused their attention here to demand those in 12 00:01:04,650 --> 00:01:09,970 Speaker 1: attendance a Trump voters angry at the ongoing lawlessness across America, 13 00:01:10,570 --> 00:01:15,530 Speaker 1: threatening to take matters into their own hands at a 14 00:01:15,610 --> 00:01:19,810 Speaker 1: time of uncertainty. Some law enforcement officials have even blessed 15 00:01:19,930 --> 00:01:23,050 Speaker 1: or turned a blind eye to armed militias upset about 16 00:01:23,090 --> 00:01:26,970 Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter. Recently, a sheriff in Florida made news 17 00:01:27,010 --> 00:01:31,330 Speaker 1: when he issued an unusual statement. Daniels vows that he 18 00:01:31,410 --> 00:01:35,250 Speaker 1: will deputize regular citizens who have gun permits to help 19 00:01:35,290 --> 00:01:39,530 Speaker 1: his department respond should violent protests break out in Clay County. 20 00:01:40,370 --> 00:01:43,330 Speaker 1: It wouldn't be the first time vigilantes have taken matters 21 00:01:43,370 --> 00:01:46,050 Speaker 1: into their own hands. Did the West Bank turn into 22 00:01:46,090 --> 00:01:49,130 Speaker 1: the Wild West? In the days following Hurricane Katrine? How 23 00:01:49,130 --> 00:01:53,530 Speaker 1: many people you shoot? Thirty eight people? Trayvon Martin, an 24 00:01:53,610 --> 00:01:57,690 Speaker 1: unarmed black teenager, was shot down by a white neighborhood watchman. 25 00:01:58,330 --> 00:02:01,930 Speaker 1: Video captures the final moments of Ahmad Arbory's life while 26 00:02:01,970 --> 00:02:05,210 Speaker 1: he was jogging through this brunchway. There's something about, Oh no, 27 00:02:05,450 --> 00:02:09,770 Speaker 1: We're about to lose this power. Dantel dubbed you. Monice, 28 00:02:09,930 --> 00:02:13,290 Speaker 1: is the author of a forthcoming collection of stories, Milk 29 00:02:13,450 --> 00:02:17,730 Speaker 1: Blood Heat. Her story here explores what life might be 30 00:02:17,810 --> 00:02:21,170 Speaker 1: like in a deputized in America. That this is fiction, 31 00:02:21,210 --> 00:02:24,290 Speaker 1: but this is like a very real terror that has 32 00:02:24,370 --> 00:02:32,370 Speaker 1: been going on in this country since its foundations. Within 33 00:02:32,450 --> 00:02:36,410 Speaker 1: hours of the press conference, gun and animal stores throughout 34 00:02:36,410 --> 00:02:43,850 Speaker 1: the county sold out. Customizable metal badges catering to that 35 00:02:44,090 --> 00:02:48,690 Speaker 1: uniquely American appetite for playing cops and robbers were back 36 00:02:48,850 --> 00:02:54,330 Speaker 1: ordered online until late October. Production shut down, as it 37 00:02:54,490 --> 00:02:57,410 Speaker 1: was during the plague, but one could still find the 38 00:02:57,450 --> 00:03:01,450 Speaker 1: golden shaff stars used for cowboys and Indians and though 39 00:03:01,530 --> 00:03:07,130 Speaker 1: slightly marring the illusion, they did in a pinch lawful 40 00:03:07,530 --> 00:03:12,130 Speaker 1: god owners, the sheriff had said, But even if there 41 00:03:12,170 --> 00:03:17,690 Speaker 1: had been something to buy, the phrase wouldn't mean them, 42 00:03:17,690 --> 00:03:21,370 Speaker 1: not Jaya or her two brothers, and not her mother, 43 00:03:21,570 --> 00:03:24,290 Speaker 1: who slept with a pink and silver luger under her 44 00:03:24,290 --> 00:03:27,010 Speaker 1: pillow just in case things went bad in the night. 45 00:03:31,690 --> 00:03:35,770 Speaker 1: Two weeks ago, a man was executed for unpaid parking tickets, 46 00:03:35,970 --> 00:03:39,530 Speaker 1: and yesterday at toddler who'd grabbed a pack of gum 47 00:03:39,570 --> 00:03:42,130 Speaker 1: from a shelf at the Quick Mark was shot as 48 00:03:42,130 --> 00:03:45,050 Speaker 1: soon as his oblivious mother stepped outside the store with 49 00:03:45,210 --> 00:03:48,650 Speaker 1: the child in her arms. Another one they'd heard about. 50 00:03:49,130 --> 00:03:52,890 Speaker 1: She'd been doing nothing, daydreaming on a park bench, but 51 00:03:53,010 --> 00:03:57,530 Speaker 1: they claimed they'd seen a weapon, and anyway, wasn't it 52 00:03:57,570 --> 00:04:03,050 Speaker 1: suspicious the act of her sitting? And we actually incredible 53 00:04:03,050 --> 00:04:07,770 Speaker 1: affirmation that these criminals were anything could become a crime. 54 00:04:07,850 --> 00:04:12,690 Speaker 1: With the Deputize on every corner, watching in grocery stores, 55 00:04:13,210 --> 00:04:17,130 Speaker 1: in car lots and coffee shops, shit like this only 56 00:04:17,170 --> 00:04:21,610 Speaker 1: happens in backwood city. People outside the South were saying, 57 00:04:23,530 --> 00:04:28,250 Speaker 1: we don't do that here. They did that there in 58 00:04:28,450 --> 00:04:34,050 Speaker 1: Chicago and New York and La. The only difference was 59 00:04:34,130 --> 00:04:36,850 Speaker 1: none of their elected officials got on the internet to 60 00:04:36,970 --> 00:04:46,770 Speaker 1: sanction it. Clocking out of work that evening, Jaya was exhausted. 61 00:04:47,370 --> 00:04:50,570 Speaker 1: It had been a stressful day at the store. They'd 62 00:04:50,610 --> 00:04:53,930 Speaker 1: finally gotten in toilet paper and pasta, but there was 63 00:04:54,010 --> 00:04:57,410 Speaker 1: relatively little neat and the lines were still too long. 64 00:04:58,170 --> 00:05:04,330 Speaker 1: No one was happy about anything. One deputized prominent Adams 65 00:05:04,370 --> 00:05:09,090 Speaker 1: Apple no mask, went through her line twice, the first 66 00:05:09,410 --> 00:05:13,330 Speaker 1: with two six packs of light beer, a chicken tender sub, 67 00:05:13,570 --> 00:05:17,170 Speaker 1: and a gallon of store brand sweet tea, the second 68 00:05:17,170 --> 00:05:20,970 Speaker 1: an hour later, for just a TwixT Both times, his 69 00:05:21,090 --> 00:05:32,730 Speaker 1: eyes on her intensely. The sky was streaked cantalope from 70 00:05:32,730 --> 00:05:37,650 Speaker 1: the setting sun, the sidewalk still damp from rain. Jaia 71 00:05:37,770 --> 00:05:41,130 Speaker 1: through the disposable mask her employers had provided her into 72 00:05:41,130 --> 00:05:44,250 Speaker 1: a waste basket and put back on the cloth one 73 00:05:44,370 --> 00:05:48,530 Speaker 1: she brought from home, a black mask with three bold 74 00:05:48,650 --> 00:05:54,730 Speaker 1: white letters B LM. Jaya. We have to be supportive 75 00:05:54,770 --> 00:05:58,570 Speaker 1: of all our customers. We don't get political here, her 76 00:05:58,610 --> 00:06:04,250 Speaker 1: manager had said this with exaggerated patience, Blinking rapidly, her 77 00:06:04,330 --> 00:06:09,130 Speaker 1: soft spotted hands clasped at her chest. Life is what 78 00:06:09,290 --> 00:06:13,210 Speaker 1: you make it, and our company policy centers on positive engagement. 79 00:06:13,850 --> 00:06:17,650 Speaker 1: You understand right. Jaia had looked past her as she 80 00:06:17,770 --> 00:06:21,690 Speaker 1: spoke toward the customer service counter, where two of her 81 00:06:21,730 --> 00:06:26,090 Speaker 1: co workers issued money orders and lotto tickets, their lower 82 00:06:26,170 --> 00:06:29,970 Speaker 1: faces covered by gray scale American flags with a thin 83 00:06:30,090 --> 00:06:35,530 Speaker 1: blue line. Day after day, her manager never said anything 84 00:06:35,610 --> 00:06:40,490 Speaker 1: to them. Jaia decided she wouldn't tell her mother about this. 85 00:06:41,250 --> 00:06:44,450 Speaker 1: That morning, when she'd put the mask on, her mother 86 00:06:44,530 --> 00:06:54,010 Speaker 1: had said, you're asking for trouble. Jaia put her head down, 87 00:06:54,650 --> 00:06:59,250 Speaker 1: shouldered her tote, and began walking. She used to love 88 00:06:59,370 --> 00:07:05,370 Speaker 1: this unoccupied time, the meditative space between leaving a destination 89 00:07:05,810 --> 00:07:12,010 Speaker 1: and arriving someplace else, mused, extrumming through her mind, But 90 00:07:12,170 --> 00:07:16,690 Speaker 1: these days she left her earbuds out, the walks instead, 91 00:07:17,330 --> 00:07:22,610 Speaker 1: filled with static anxiety. Five blocks and she'd be outside 92 00:07:22,610 --> 00:07:25,930 Speaker 1: her second brother's job, where she would buy a smoothie 93 00:07:26,330 --> 00:07:29,530 Speaker 1: and find a table and read until he got off. 94 00:07:30,690 --> 00:07:38,290 Speaker 1: As much as they could. They walked home together. After 95 00:07:38,370 --> 00:07:47,650 Speaker 1: a few minutes, Jaia felt something and increase in intensity 96 00:07:47,890 --> 00:07:51,770 Speaker 1: of the static ticking up her spine. She looked over 97 00:07:51,810 --> 00:07:56,450 Speaker 1: her shoulder and saw several feet back the deputized man 98 00:07:56,690 --> 00:08:01,610 Speaker 1: from her line. Her mother's instructions zipped through her head. 99 00:08:01,850 --> 00:08:07,130 Speaker 1: If it happens to you, find somewhere safe. She quickened 100 00:08:07,170 --> 00:08:11,210 Speaker 1: her pace, eyes darting toward the storefronts around her. A 101 00:08:11,250 --> 00:08:16,170 Speaker 1: furniture boutique, a beauty parlor, a party shop, all shuddered. 102 00:08:17,090 --> 00:08:21,090 Speaker 1: There was nowhere to duck inside. Jaia tried to calm 103 00:08:21,130 --> 00:08:25,090 Speaker 1: her breath. She slid the metal nail file she always 104 00:08:25,130 --> 00:08:28,170 Speaker 1: carried from her pocket and gripped it in her fist. 105 00:08:29,290 --> 00:08:32,530 Speaker 1: As she rounded the corner of the next street, the 106 00:08:32,690 --> 00:08:36,890 Speaker 1: deputized closed the distance between them, grabbing her arm and 107 00:08:37,050 --> 00:08:40,770 Speaker 1: slinging her against the concrete wall of a closed Chinese takeout. 108 00:08:41,450 --> 00:08:44,850 Speaker 1: Jaia heard music from across the street and locked eyes 109 00:08:44,890 --> 00:08:48,290 Speaker 1: with a woman on her balcony. If you can't find 110 00:08:48,330 --> 00:08:53,450 Speaker 1: a safe place, find a witness. After a moment, the 111 00:08:53,610 --> 00:08:57,290 Speaker 1: woman looked away, picked up her portable speaker, and her 112 00:08:57,330 --> 00:09:06,490 Speaker 1: read inside. Once the sliding door closed, they were alone. 113 00:09:08,010 --> 00:09:12,410 Speaker 1: He pressed jay Heard against the wall and smiled, blocking 114 00:09:12,410 --> 00:09:15,730 Speaker 1: her with his body, one hand flat against her chest, 115 00:09:16,050 --> 00:09:21,410 Speaker 1: the other on his gun. His badge was plastic, likely 116 00:09:21,450 --> 00:09:25,050 Speaker 1: a last resort purchased from the local dollar store, and 117 00:09:25,650 --> 00:09:29,170 Speaker 1: briefly she wondered what he'd done with the playcuffs. It 118 00:09:29,250 --> 00:09:33,570 Speaker 1: was surely packaged with But it didn't matter what the 119 00:09:33,610 --> 00:09:36,210 Speaker 1: badge was made of, or that it was a toy. 120 00:09:36,970 --> 00:09:44,690 Speaker 1: It only mattered that he believed in it. Do you know? 121 00:09:45,490 --> 00:09:52,010 Speaker 1: He asked her, why you're being detained? He sounded so polite, 122 00:09:52,770 --> 00:09:56,970 Speaker 1: so normal. He could have been saying, how are you today? 123 00:09:57,570 --> 00:10:02,290 Speaker 1: This common man? With her heart beneath his hand, he 124 00:10:02,490 --> 00:10:06,810 Speaker 1: let up on her and pulled the mask from her mouth. This, 125 00:10:07,570 --> 00:10:12,530 Speaker 1: he said, fingering the cloth. Well, it's defamation of character, 126 00:10:12,650 --> 00:10:17,050 Speaker 1: plain and simple, the same language they now used whenever 127 00:10:17,090 --> 00:10:21,490 Speaker 1: a journalist was killed. She knew enough to know what 128 00:10:21,610 --> 00:10:26,330 Speaker 1: happened next. If she was lucky, there might be outrage, 129 00:10:26,370 --> 00:10:31,650 Speaker 1: a new hashtag on Twitter. And if she wasn't lucky, well, 130 00:10:35,290 --> 00:10:39,250 Speaker 1: Jaya's hand tensed around the nail file. He wouldn't expect 131 00:10:39,250 --> 00:10:44,130 Speaker 1: her to fight, which meant she must. In her head, 132 00:10:44,490 --> 00:10:49,410 Speaker 1: her mother held her said, don't let them see you 133 00:10:49,610 --> 00:11:01,690 Speaker 1: beg That was in Jama Kumara narrating What We Make 134 00:11:01,770 --> 00:11:06,650 Speaker 1: It by Dantio w Monice Hi Dantio Hi Ashley. The 135 00:11:06,730 --> 00:11:10,570 Speaker 1: news hook for your story involves the sheriff of Clay County, Florida, 136 00:11:10,690 --> 00:11:15,410 Speaker 1: near Jacksonville, who recently said he'd deputized every gun owner 137 00:11:15,490 --> 00:11:19,250 Speaker 1: if his deputies couldn't handle Black Lives Matter protesters. I 138 00:11:19,330 --> 00:11:22,370 Speaker 1: remember when that was said, and I remember a distinct 139 00:11:22,570 --> 00:11:25,610 Speaker 1: chill down my spine at hearing someone say that, I 140 00:11:25,650 --> 00:11:29,090 Speaker 1: guess out loud. What did you think when you first 141 00:11:29,130 --> 00:11:33,050 Speaker 1: heard about that. I mean, honestly, it froze me. I 142 00:11:33,130 --> 00:11:37,250 Speaker 1: was looking and seeing the headline, and I thought, wow, 143 00:11:37,290 --> 00:11:41,050 Speaker 1: this is something that so many people feel. It already happens. 144 00:11:41,090 --> 00:11:43,770 Speaker 1: There's vigilantes that, you know, neighborhood watch. If you look 145 00:11:43,810 --> 00:11:46,130 Speaker 1: at something as simple as Trayvon Martin, that would have 146 00:11:46,170 --> 00:11:49,130 Speaker 1: been a situation of a deputized person. But just to 147 00:11:49,170 --> 00:11:52,770 Speaker 1: hear someone say it out loud and for whatever nefarious purposes, 148 00:11:52,810 --> 00:11:54,610 Speaker 1: like you know this person is up for reelection, Oh 149 00:11:54,650 --> 00:11:56,250 Speaker 1: I'm going to get on the good side of these people, 150 00:11:56,570 --> 00:11:59,850 Speaker 1: It just felt like that's a moment that needs to 151 00:11:59,930 --> 00:12:03,570 Speaker 1: be looked at, that needs to be examined. That Sheriff 152 00:12:03,810 --> 00:12:09,290 Speaker 1: Darryl Daniels is himself a black man. Yeah, yeah, What 153 00:12:09,330 --> 00:12:13,170 Speaker 1: do you make of a black law enforcement official appealing 154 00:12:13,210 --> 00:12:16,850 Speaker 1: to gun owners in a southern state. So that is 155 00:12:16,890 --> 00:12:20,130 Speaker 1: the other complicated part of the story that I chose 156 00:12:20,250 --> 00:12:23,490 Speaker 1: not to for the purposes of the story, you know, portray, 157 00:12:23,690 --> 00:12:28,010 Speaker 1: But I felt as if it made sense to me. 158 00:12:28,050 --> 00:12:30,090 Speaker 1: It seems that, you know, if this is someone who 159 00:12:30,250 --> 00:12:34,650 Speaker 1: is an accounty that upholds these kind of patriotic, you know, 160 00:12:34,810 --> 00:12:38,090 Speaker 1: type of laws, that this person who's so desperate to 161 00:12:38,490 --> 00:12:40,810 Speaker 1: gain that footholds that he seemed this power that he 162 00:12:40,850 --> 00:12:43,450 Speaker 1: has seems that they would do anything. And so to me, 163 00:12:43,810 --> 00:12:45,690 Speaker 1: it falls in line with I don't know, can I 164 00:12:45,690 --> 00:12:50,890 Speaker 1: say coonery? Is that allowed me? Yeah? I just felt like, okay, 165 00:12:50,930 --> 00:12:54,010 Speaker 1: so this is someone who has been given power who 166 00:12:54,010 --> 00:12:56,490 Speaker 1: feels like they want to keep it by whatever means, 167 00:12:56,490 --> 00:12:58,890 Speaker 1: and if that appeals to him to say, oh, let's 168 00:12:58,890 --> 00:13:02,210 Speaker 1: shoot down protesters in the street, then let's do that. 169 00:13:02,290 --> 00:13:04,090 Speaker 1: And that's a little bit of evil that also is 170 00:13:04,410 --> 00:13:08,250 Speaker 1: just chilling. Oh yeah, but a tale is all this time? Yeah? 171 00:13:08,450 --> 00:13:11,290 Speaker 1: How person, Sinol was this story to you? Did you 172 00:13:11,370 --> 00:13:13,930 Speaker 1: draw from experiences in your own life in order to 173 00:13:13,970 --> 00:13:17,010 Speaker 1: write it? I mean, you know, at a base level, 174 00:13:17,130 --> 00:13:20,650 Speaker 1: if you are a black woman who lives in America, 175 00:13:21,050 --> 00:13:27,130 Speaker 1: you have consciously or unconsciously experienced prejudices and racism against you. 176 00:13:27,250 --> 00:13:29,250 Speaker 1: So you know, it's it's easy in that way. But 177 00:13:29,330 --> 00:13:32,130 Speaker 1: for me, I just thought, what would be the most 178 00:13:32,250 --> 00:13:35,250 Speaker 1: terrifying thing, And the most terrifying thing is to go 179 00:13:35,330 --> 00:13:37,810 Speaker 1: through life not being able to believe in what you 180 00:13:37,850 --> 00:13:41,090 Speaker 1: believe in, being attacked for what you believe in, and 181 00:13:41,130 --> 00:13:44,930 Speaker 1: then being killed for what you believe in. And whether 182 00:13:44,970 --> 00:13:47,810 Speaker 1: you know, whether you think Jaya at the end dies 183 00:13:47,930 --> 00:13:49,730 Speaker 1: or doesn't die, or you know, that's a little bit 184 00:13:49,810 --> 00:13:53,250 Speaker 1: I've left a little bit ambivalent, But it's terrifying and 185 00:13:53,610 --> 00:13:57,010 Speaker 1: it's real. It's what happens every day in this country. 186 00:13:57,930 --> 00:14:01,970 Speaker 1: Poles show that large majorities of Americans support Black Lives 187 00:14:01,970 --> 00:14:05,050 Speaker 1: Matter and their aim of eliminating police violence against black 188 00:14:05,090 --> 00:14:10,090 Speaker 1: people specifically. Yet Trump is doing everything can, it seems like, 189 00:14:10,210 --> 00:14:13,810 Speaker 1: to stir up a racist reaction. How do you think 190 00:14:13,810 --> 00:14:15,890 Speaker 1: that's going to play out for him in twenty twenty. 191 00:14:17,210 --> 00:14:19,210 Speaker 1: I think it might work in his favor. I think 192 00:14:19,210 --> 00:14:22,970 Speaker 1: that the people who support him, regardless of countless evidence 193 00:14:23,010 --> 00:14:24,890 Speaker 1: that he is not who he says he is, He 194 00:14:24,930 --> 00:14:27,130 Speaker 1: does not have the intentions for this country that he 195 00:14:27,210 --> 00:14:30,050 Speaker 1: has said that he has. I think that despite all 196 00:14:30,090 --> 00:14:32,850 Speaker 1: of that, these people have like, you know, bought in 197 00:14:33,370 --> 00:14:35,250 Speaker 1: and now they're like, I have to, I have to. 198 00:14:35,410 --> 00:14:37,690 Speaker 1: You know, it's like a bad investment that you've put 199 00:14:37,730 --> 00:14:39,650 Speaker 1: all of your money into, but to take it out 200 00:14:39,650 --> 00:14:43,050 Speaker 1: would be detrimental to not just your economic wealth, but 201 00:14:43,130 --> 00:14:46,610 Speaker 1: also your pride. When I think that Americans cannot suffer 202 00:14:46,970 --> 00:14:49,170 Speaker 1: damage to their pride, it's like almost like the worst 203 00:14:49,170 --> 00:14:53,690 Speaker 1: thing that could happen. So unfortunately, all of the discourse 204 00:14:53,730 --> 00:14:55,570 Speaker 1: that he's doing is working in his favor. But I'm 205 00:14:55,610 --> 00:14:58,330 Speaker 1: hoping that the people who are now becoming more awake 206 00:14:58,570 --> 00:15:01,490 Speaker 1: to the situation, will you use the power that they 207 00:15:01,490 --> 00:15:03,770 Speaker 1: have and the privilege that they have to enact some 208 00:15:03,930 --> 00:15:06,250 Speaker 1: different course than where it looks like we're heading for 209 00:15:06,610 --> 00:15:13,130 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. I hope that you are not right, but 210 00:15:13,250 --> 00:15:16,490 Speaker 1: we'll see saying, you know, I know say, but we'll 211 00:15:16,490 --> 00:15:20,650 Speaker 1: see what happens. It's really interesting. Thank you, Dantill W. Monise, 212 00:15:21,050 --> 00:15:23,250 Speaker 1: thanks for your story and thanks for coming on the 213 00:15:23,330 --> 00:15:25,690 Speaker 1: Chronicles of Now. Thank you so much for having me. 214 00:15:27,290 --> 00:15:30,770 Speaker 1: You can read my full interview with Dantill W. Monie 215 00:15:30,890 --> 00:15:34,370 Speaker 1: on our website Chronicles dot fm, where you can also 216 00:15:34,570 --> 00:15:37,810 Speaker 1: read the story you just heard and other short fiction 217 00:15:38,130 --> 00:15:42,770 Speaker 1: torn from today's headlines. Our sound designer and composer is 218 00:15:42,770 --> 00:15:47,010 Speaker 1: Bart Warshaw, our producer is Curtis Fox, and our associate 219 00:15:47,050 --> 00:15:51,530 Speaker 1: producer is Emily Rostick. Tyler Cabott is the executive producer 220 00:15:51,570 --> 00:15:55,690 Speaker 1: and founder of Chronicles of Now for Pushkin Industries. Our 221 00:15:55,770 --> 00:16:02,010 Speaker 1: executive producer is Letalmulad. Special thanks to Jacob Weisberg, Carly Migliori, 222 00:16:02,410 --> 00:16:06,610 Speaker 1: Heather Faine, and Eric Sandler for the Chronicles of Now podcast. 223 00:16:06,810 --> 00:16:10,610 Speaker 1: I'm Ashley Ford. Thanks for listening. The com pat a 224 00:16:10,690 --> 00:16:13,450 Speaker 1: pocket of the tone