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Speaker 1: There's no such thing as gender. Name Name another legend,

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Speaker 1: my assistant lived here already came out here. I saw

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00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,240
Speaker 1: a house. I came in here on Wednesday. I saw

423
00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,080
Speaker 1: a house on a Friday, and I had it by Monday.

424
00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,119
Speaker 1: And it was just like the bamboom and I'm like, okay,

425
00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,560
Speaker 1: now I'm gonna get tonsils and then boom. We were

426
00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,840
Speaker 1: in lockdown. So I was in a house that I

427
00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,400
Speaker 1: had just bought with no furniture, no, absolutely nothing, sitting

428
00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,320
Speaker 1: in Palm springs the beginning of the entire pandemic. Console

429
00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,800
Speaker 1: still in, Tonsil, still in because we canceled the surgery.

430
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,600
Speaker 1: So we're talking to be with the bad Tonsils right now. Yeah,

431
00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,760
Speaker 1: I'm good down because it's hot here. But when I

432
00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:35,120
Speaker 1: get into cold air, that's that's the problem. So yeah,

433
00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,400
Speaker 1: So they were like, it's elective surgery. We'll re reschedule

434
00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,000
Speaker 1: you until you know later. Did you did did you

435
00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,200
Speaker 1: did he drive you into l A that for those

436
00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,520
Speaker 1: days that we were working together on Yes, they did.

437
00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,840
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I felt so bad. I was like there,

438
00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:48,840
Speaker 1: like byonca is about to touch down into the studio

439
00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:50,280
Speaker 1: in l A. And I was like, and she she

440
00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,560
Speaker 1: drove all like they drove her all the way from Palm. Yeah.

441
00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,680
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not a big deal. It's not that bad.

442
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,120
Speaker 1: I feel like it's still such a drive though. I mean,

443
00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,920
Speaker 1: if you had traffic, you're looking at a three hour moments.

444
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,919
Speaker 1: But if you come at the right time, you can

445
00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:04,440
Speaker 1: actually get in and out of there in an hour

446
00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,160
Speaker 1: and a half if you come at the right time.

447
00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:07,959
Speaker 1: Isn't that worth to live by if you come at

448
00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 1: the right time, if you come at the right honey, Yeah, Yeah,

449
00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:15,040
Speaker 1: but I always feel like palm strings whenever I'm there.

450
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,119
Speaker 1: I'm always so happy to be there for like three

451
00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,760
Speaker 1: days and then the fourth fifth day. Did you have

452
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,320
Speaker 1: like a period of a period where you hit a

453
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,600
Speaker 1: wall when you were like, Okay, it's palm springs all

454
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,160
Speaker 1: the time, Like are you loving it? Well? No, because

455
00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:29,000
Speaker 1: I'm not in the direct city. I'm a little further out,

456
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,280
Speaker 1: which is great, so I'm a little more residential. Um

457
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 1: and I mean, I mean, I'm in this super Republican neighborhood,

458
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,960
Speaker 1: which is weird because I'm the darkest thing without a lawnmower.

459
00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,160
Speaker 1: But he is one of these areas where you're out here,

460
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 1: so I'm not in the middle of the airbnbs and

461
00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:43,879
Speaker 1: all the gays have in their moments, so I know

462
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,199
Speaker 1: where that is, which is about fifteen minutes away, so

463
00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 1: if I need it, I can go find it. But

464
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,520
Speaker 1: I'm a little further out, so I like being alone.

465
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,560
Speaker 1: You know, I get sick of people quickly, so it

466
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 1: was easy to just kind of go, this is nice,

467
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,119
Speaker 1: this is cool. I can set at my house and

468
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,159
Speaker 1: be a normal person for a while there there and

469
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:03,400
Speaker 1: drink of course, right, ye are you gigging out? There

470
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,360
Speaker 1: because there's like, good, I know you're just like, no,

471
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 1: I haven't. No, my friends, a lot of my friends

472
00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 1: that are from l A that have come out, that

473
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 1: have done drag Race, that will come out and do

474
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 1: the brunches and stuff, but I have this weird contract

475
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 1: with the production company that I can't do ship, which

476
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 1: is great because now the world's opening back up again

477
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 1: and so things are slowly becoming human and normal. Yes, okay,

478
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 1: and she's and she's and you're gonna get You're gonna

479
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,760
Speaker 1: get the bookings in line pretty soon. Well yeah, well

480
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 1: I have a tour that's announcing soon that i'll be

481
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,119
Speaker 1: back on the road with. Yeah. Yeah, they're actually two

482
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 1: announcements that are happening next week. So yeah, okay, wellgund

483
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 1: yeah the pre exclusive. Yeah, the pre exclusive. Yes, that's it.

484
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 1: I don't know when. It's an announcement of the announcement

485
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 1: of the announcement. We love it. I just pitched about

486
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 1: that online Drag Queens Love to do that. They go

487
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,160
Speaker 1: big event coming up tomorrow. Oh, I can't wait to share.

488
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 1: Just fucking tell us us three days before, just tell

489
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:59,439
Speaker 1: us what it's about to happen. It's the pre exclusive

490
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:01,680
Speaker 1: is just a little bit thinner than the exclusive. When

491
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:06,159
Speaker 1: it comes out, you know, it tastes, and then the

492
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 1: exclusive better not flop. I better not here, Like about

493
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 1: your new podcast. No, I'm not doing No. The crazy

494
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 1: thing was you know, um they were up my ass

495
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 1: uh Starpars Audio for about four years asking me to

496
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 1: do one, and I did at about time. Well, I

497
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 1: just thought you had to be in one place and

498
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 1: record it. I mean that's how it was, you know,

499
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 1: the world. I think you had to be one place

500
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 1: and do it, and I couldn't commit. But then after

501
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,400
Speaker 1: what nine months and and you know, staying locked at home,

502
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 1: I just thought, well, funk, I need to do something.

503
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,680
Speaker 1: So then it was just easier. And basically this is

504
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 1: how we function with everybody. Now. It's kind of wine, right,

505
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 1: There is no boundary between like my like podcast behavior

506
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,199
Speaker 1: like the whale like sort of like talk to someone here.

507
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,399
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean it's all blended together in a

508
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 1: way that's kind of terrifying. Yes, I feel like I'm

509
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 1: just on a podcast with everybody I'm on Zoom with

510
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 1: And now you're gonna have to go back into society.

511
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 1: This is gonna be terrible, Like wait, hold on, is

512
00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 1: this one being recorded? Like, no, this is a private meeting.

513
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 1: Is my quick time running it's terrible. But Matt earlier

514
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 1: was saying when you guys were talking about Palm Springs

515
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,159
Speaker 1: that like it's like Matt hopes to end up. I

516
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 1: mean I think we all kind of do. I definitely

517
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 1: see myself when I go to the truck, when I

518
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 1: go to like the Tropicana or Tropical I'm always like,

519
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 1: this is me at the bar as I know it,

520
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 1: and it's me very soon and I love it. No,

521
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 1: I think what's great about it is it's just I

522
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 1: mean I come from originally from New Orleans, so it's

523
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 1: like it's completely the opposite. We don't have mountains down there.

524
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,479
Speaker 1: I mean we're below sea level. Uh, not to mention.

525
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,680
Speaker 1: It's just it's always sunny. The weather is always the same.

526
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,400
Speaker 1: It's very consistent, which is good. Um, it's not as

527
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: bad as hot to me is Phoenix. Um, And you know,

528
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 1: everything looks pretty. Everything's like the flintstones. So I just

529
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,880
Speaker 1: love the whole idea of it. It is bed rock.

530
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 1: It is all bed rock. Like the town. I'm just

531
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 1: like the charming way, the way that is not terribly

532
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 1: haunting to me in the way that like, oh, it's

533
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,719
Speaker 1: like whatever. I'm like, no, it's it's nice. It's yeah,

534
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,919
Speaker 1: I just I see myself there too. But I I

535
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 1: feel like when you're in l a, it's just the

536
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 1: proximity is like it call goals to you in a

537
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 1: different way. And I think Matt's experiencing that right now. Yeah,

538
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 1: I mean, look, to be honest, the only reason, I mean,

539
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: one of the main reasons why I moved out here

540
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 1: so I could actually appear young. So it's great when

541
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 1: you look at the people that are here. I'm like,

542
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm chicken here. This is scary and it's

543
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 1: like a whole new world for me. Yeah, but you

544
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: have nary, nary a crow's foot on your face because

545
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 1: you're you're well, I just had this laser done. This

546
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 1: lady just burned the ship out of me. She was like,

547
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 1: all right, you got some dark spots on your face.

548
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: We're gonna zap it. Then she zapp it and it

549
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,880
Speaker 1: got darker. I don't know what the fuck, but um, well,

550
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you know I've had bot tox for Christ's sake. Yeah,

551
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 1: you gotta do that every now, But yeah, how how often?

552
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,120
Speaker 1: Because I think, I think, I think this is as

553
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,640
Speaker 1: I'm pointing at your face saying that this is, this

554
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 1: is my goal in like five years. Well it's I

555
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 1: don't do it that often, like every six months, and

556
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 1: the doctor does it in different spots, so he doesn't

557
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 1: do the same spots always. So if he does here,

558
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 1: he won't do there, and then he'll do that next time.

559
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 1: So you still have some mobility, so you don't have

560
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 1: that Nicole Hitman forehead yet. Yeah, you know what I

561
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: mean that that you know, I've seen your friends. She's

562
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: not a close friends going to say, but I was like,

563
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: I was watching The Undoing and a couple of my

564
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 1: friends are like, I wish she didn't have so much work,

565
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,919
Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, she's playing like an Upper east

566
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 1: Side rich woman. It's like Nicole Kiman is playing a

567
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 1: version of herself on the Undoing. I'm cool with it.

568
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,400
Speaker 1: And that woman also might have a slight Australian accent.

569
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: You don't know, you don't know where she went to university.

570
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 1: I am excited, though excited slash interested in this whole

571
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,679
Speaker 1: Lucy biopic thing that's happening. Did you did you hear

572
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: about that? We didn't mean I've always I've seen the

573
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 1: photo and that people are people are a little up

574
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 1: in arms about the photo. Yes, yes, because what's happening

575
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 1: to be up in arms about. It's her face in

576
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 1: an orange wig, and everybody's like, you know, that's I

577
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 1: think the headline was something ridiculous at one of those

578
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,640
Speaker 1: Daily Mail things that it was like she's the spitting

579
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: image of Lucy and it's like girl girl, you know.

580
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: But then it's okay, we can say, I mean, she's

581
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 1: not gonna win snatch game, but it's in that thing

582
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 1: where you're like, it doesn't and then they're like justifying

583
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: it by going, it's not Lucy. I love Lucy, it's

584
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: Lucille Balls life. So I'm curious just to see what

585
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: it's about. She's such an amazing actress that, like, I'll

586
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: be interested in what the take is. I will say

587
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: it was originally supposed to be Cape Blanchet, and I

588
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: think that would have been fucking amazing like that, I

589
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: think energy wise, because you know, Lucy like or Lucille

590
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 1: Ball rather like she was a rather like hard person,

591
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,239
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like she was like a

592
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 1: tough woman. She was a tough businesswoman. She took no

593
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 1: ship like as as as funny and as like you know,

594
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 1: broad as she was on the show, she was, she

595
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 1: was a real tough one. And I think that you know,

596
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: Cape Blanchet like has that like natural toughness and take

597
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,919
Speaker 1: no ship, which she brought to you know, um, the Aviator,

598
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: and she she's just we've seen her do so many

599
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: times that I was really excited about that, and I

600
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 1: think Nicole can find it and get there. And I

601
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 1: never bet against Nicole, but in terms of just pure casting,

602
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: I will say I was excited for the Cape Blanchet

603
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: lose moment. See, I'm still upset that that Kate didn't

604
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: win the Academy Award for Elizabeth and they gave it

605
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,439
Speaker 1: to Gwyneth Paltrow that year. Remember that ship it was

606
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,959
Speaker 1: for that Shakespeare that fuckory like on like you know,

607
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: good god damn well, but she did win for The Aviator,

608
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 1: which was supporting. But whatever, yeah, I do. I mean, well,

609
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 1: now she's also got her blue Jasmine one, so she's

610
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: got her she's got a couple on her damn show.

611
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 1: But the thing about someone like that is it's like,

612
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: you know, they always deserve to win. Did you all

613
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 1: hear about the Hollywood foreign press falling apart, No, what's

614
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: coming on? Yeah, yeah, Phillison, because I haven't been keeping

615
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: up with us. So basically, like they they've obviously come

616
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: under fire because there's almost no diversity in their voting body,

617
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: which is essentially eight like European men who like named

618
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: Gibbetto and and and like like that. Basically basically you

619
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: can you can. You can send them like a basket

620
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: of cookies and they'll vote for you. And that's like

621
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: just basically essentially how the Golden Globes were like, it's

622
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: crazy European like hi, Hi, and they're like the the

623
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: way that they vote is like is actually a little

624
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 1: bit sexist, and apparently like there's um, someone came out

625
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: I believe it. Scarlett Johansson actually said today she made

626
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: a huge statement and she said, you know, I am

627
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 1: not going to be participating in these in the Hollywood

628
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: foreign press events going forward because every time I go

629
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: to like press events with them, they asked very sexist questions.

630
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 1: You know, their platform for diversity outreach going forward is

631
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: not satisfactory. And so now everyone like is sort of

632
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: getting on board with being like we're pulling out. We're

633
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: pulling out like Netflix, and now we're not doing any

634
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: Hollywood format. They're not going to broadcast it. So they

635
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 1: came under fire. Then they responded to it. The response

636
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: wasn't good enough. More people are coming out to the

637
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: point where this, to me is hilarious. Tom Cruise went

638
00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: to the Hollywood Foreign Press Offices and return his three

639
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: golden globes in protest. So people and I'm like, yeah,

640
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 1: you know, she's the word. I was like, yeah, Tom Cruise.

641
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: Tom Cruise brought his golden globes to the Hollywood Foreign

642
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: Press Offices. Then he said do better, hopped on the

643
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 1: back of a s ard member, went back to the

644
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: Scientology Celebrity Center and threw a woman who looked at

645
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: Ann Archer wrong on the hallway. Give me a fucking break, Honestly,

646
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: first of all, let's talk about the big problem here.

647
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: Why does Tom Cruise have three golden globes? That's why

648
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: I want to what the fund has he done that?

649
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 1: He's got a rock of ages? What are these wins?

650
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: What are these wins? It's like the new seasons of

651
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: drag Race. Who cares it's not special anymore? You gave

652
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: it to her, what is it about it? Jerry McGuire

653
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 1: and brought on the fourth of July. In case anyone's want,

654
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, the moment in first of all,

655
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: let's just let's just let's call his career at the moment,

656
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: the moment of Jerry maguire is Rene's elbow ger. She

657
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: is the moment. Okay, she said, it's Kelly Preston. It's Kelly.

658
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: It's the late Kelly Preston. Yeah, yeah, getting fucked by him.

659
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: This is this is getting me. That was good, Thank you. Yeah,

660
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: that was really good. Sketch legend for your consideration. We

661
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: are we have for your consideration, Emmys. It's going to

662
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: happen before I say, baby, where the buzz is building? Um?

663
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 1: But wait no, it's it's so funny to me though

664
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: that people like, like occasionally he'll come out and be like, hey, yeah,

665
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: I want to say that I'm on the right side

666
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: of one thing, and then people are like, yeah, we stand,

667
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, he is like leader of a

668
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: cult time. You know. Have you have you ever seen

669
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: Scarlett Jr. Hands In person? She is the tiniest little thing,

670
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: biggest tits I've ever seen on such a small frame.

671
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: She's a very small I have a sure whether I'll

672
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: have to send it to you. She's literally like this

673
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 1: tiny little thing huge Tits beautiful though them. I can't

674
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: wait for Black Widow. Look, I'm looking to I'm looking

675
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: to get back into the movie theater. I went the

676
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: other night to see Together Together starring our friend Patty Harrison.

677
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: She's fabulous. I'm just like, it feels good to be

678
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: back in the movie theater again. They're like half cool,

679
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: so it's not exciting, but and any of these big

680
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: movies I want to go see. But that's the best.

681
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: Capacity theater is best. Even in the before, like it

682
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: was like, oh great. It was like like a like

683
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: a Thursday afternoon thing that you would do and it'd

684
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: be like this is perfect, pick your seat, there you go.

685
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: What's the movie? What's what's the theater in Palm Springs.

686
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: You don't have no idea because when I got here

687
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: everything was closed. So things were just slowly now opening up.

688
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: So I haven't done my research. Yeah, I know, so

689
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: you're just you're discovering it. I am discovering it now. Yeah.

690
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: I went to my friends Jackie beat and Sherry Vine

691
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: had drag shows at this place called Oscar's Downtown, so

692
00:32:55,800 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 1: I went to go because you know, they but I

693
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: I would call them legends because this is what I

694
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: would say about anybody like Lady Bunny and Coco Peru

695
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: and Varla Jean Mormon and all of those queens. These

696
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: are bitches who started, you know, in the early nineties,

697
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: and they are still working and you have the platform

698
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 1: of drag Race, didn't have social media. So the fact

699
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: that they're still around, still doing what they do, and

700
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: they're still fucking funny as ship. They're bitter as hell,

701
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: but they're funny a ship that it's great. I would

702
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: call them legends because they're committed. And also they're a

703
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: huge reminder to me to say stop drag so I

704
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: know at some point I'm gonna go. I don't want

705
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: to be her, so I will stop. But yeah, it's

706
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: wild because they've been around. I mean, can you imagine

707
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: just doing this since the nineties. I mean, that's that's

708
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: that's a commitment, bitch. Now and you really do forget,

709
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 1: like you know now because now it feels like when

710
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: we do the new seasons of Drag Race, almost everyone

711
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: that's on the show now like started doing drag or

712
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: came of age doing drag while the show was on.

713
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: So there is like that while I still really love

714
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: the show and I actually have season our team was

715
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: like an incredibly strong season in the in the grand scheme.

716
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: It was so long, it was but I got it.

717
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 1: But what then else are we doing? You know what

718
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: I mean? Anyone? Anytime that anyone? And he was saying

719
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 1: like it was long, it was long. I was like,

720
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: I was grateful for it. Now I will say this,

721
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: I haven't started watching Australia because I am a little

722
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: fatigued at this point. I haven't now have watched it. Yeah,

723
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: well I haven't watched since my season. Uh. And it's

724
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,439
Speaker 1: wild because like I literally watched the season season six

725
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: in a bar doing bar viewings. As I told you,

726
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 1: I'll do anything. So I was doing bar viewings while

727
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 1: it was airing and TV and I have not sat

728
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: back and watched any of it since then. So and

729
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: then after that, I was traveling, and then it started

730
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 1: getting really complicated when it started going to specific channels

731
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 1: that weren't in my hotel or wherever I was traveling

732
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 1: out like the one and it switched from logo and

733
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 1: then it was all and I was like, I don't

734
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: care anymore. You know, I can't keep up. You know,

735
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 1: watch Bob's season, did you really stretch Bobs? I did

736
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: watch Bob season. I saw marathon of Bob season. But

737
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: I did know what was going on because Bob and

738
00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: I are friends. So it was that kind of a

739
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: thing where, you know, he was eight, so I was

740
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: out working. But yeah, we kept in touch and I

741
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: knew what was going on. But I think that was

742
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:11,959
Speaker 1: probably the last time that I cared. Uh was fair,

743
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: That's fair, that's fair. Hearing you talk about you know,

744
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,720
Speaker 1: Jackie and and just a Cocoa and and Lady Buddy,

745
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: I'm just like, oh, but see, Bianca's win was great.

746
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: Even like in my like you know Zygo era of

747
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: being in New York City, I was like being like

748
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: a baby. I was just like, oh, but it feels

749
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: like Bianca has this connection with like I hate to

750
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 1: use this term, but like that old school Yeah. Well,

751
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: I mean when we started drag, I mean that's how

752
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: I was. I started in nineties six, and so the

753
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 1: thing was that you you had to have a gimmick,

754
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,479
Speaker 1: you had to have something you were doing. So either

755
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: you were this super perfect lip sync artist, or you

756
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: were the dancing queen, or you were the trans goddess

757
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,720
Speaker 1: that would be you know, naked with with the capes

758
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: and all this stuff, or you were the clown. And

759
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: that's kind of how it started for me. And I

760
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 1: didn't consider myself a clown. They told me I was

761
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: a clown, and in that situation is just how it rolled.

762
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: So you I would basically cover the time while the

763
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 1: girls were doing costume changes to talk to the audience

764
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: because no one else wanted to talk to the audience.

765
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 1: So that's kind of how it evolved. And we're dealing

766
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 1: with drunk people at two am on a Wednesday night

767
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: in New Orleans. Girl girl, Yeah that's the bottom of

768
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: the barrel. So trial by fire that that is yeah, challenging,

769
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: but you know, it was what it was. So that's

770
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: just what I did all those years, and then it

771
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,879
Speaker 1: just kind of went into and so drag race for me.

772
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,720
Speaker 1: I did it at thirty seven. I had a birthday

773
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: where we were filming, so I was thirty seven and

774
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: I thought I will quit drag at forty. You know,

775
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: I'm sick of slepping from bar to bar and doing

776
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,399
Speaker 1: shitty Pride gigs. Um. I thought, all right, I could

777
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: wrap this up and just live a normal life, and

778
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: then Drag Race kind of changed everything. So it was

779
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 1: the last minute chance of like, let's go do it.

780
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: See what's gonna happen, because I've seen many of my

781
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: untalented friends go far like Manila, and I thought this,

782
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: you know, like people know Jiggly's name. What the funk

783
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 1: I could go do? Yeah, while we're talking days of Lure,

784
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: we should ask the question, what do you think the

785
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,240
Speaker 1: central question of the show lost cultures that we currently

786
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 1: are actually participating in right now, So it's time the

787
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 1: question is Bianca, what was the culture that made you

788
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: say culture is for me? So basically, this was the

789
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 1: pop culture that entered your life at a certain point

790
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: when you were like, oh wait, I see myself in this.

791
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,240
Speaker 1: I am affected by this. I'm gonna follow this impulse.

792
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: Oh well, it's tricky because it didn't It wasn't actually

793
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: happening in real life at my time, but it was

794
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 1: through video tapes and a friend of mine, um, a

795
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: guy that worked for the local newspaper back in the

796
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: day in New Orleans. I just started drag and he says,

797
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: I need you to watch this videotape. It's important. And

798
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: I got to watch a videotape of Charles Pierce, and

799
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: Charles Pierce was this amazing drag queen from way back when.

800
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: And it was the moment that I went, oh, this

801
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: is what it was. He wasn't pretty. He was doing impressions,

802
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: but it wasn't It was his take on the impression.

803
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: So it's very much like Saturday Live in that moment

804
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 1: where visually you have some of the stuff that gives

805
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: you the nuances. But it was the culture in the

806
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: world that it was like, oh, so it's not all

807
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: about looking like a woman. Oh, it's not all about

808
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: being serious. That I went, oh, that's that's for me.

809
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: And then I think the other the other side of

810
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,240
Speaker 1: it was, you know, just I was in the Madonna age,

811
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: you know, so that was like my culture in my

812
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: life that I was like, oh God, that's oh. I

813
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: want to be in music videos. I want to be

814
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: you know, I want to wear that ponytail, you know,

815
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 1: and sing vogue. That was that was my thing. And

816
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 1: I still love her, even though she's kind of crazy now,

817
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: but I'm like, you know, I'm that mad at her,

818
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 1: but yeah, that would probably be the most interesting thing

819
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 1: that took me over. Yeah, Charles Pierce, Okay, she's she's

820
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: doing like whatever happened to Baby Jane, like as like

821
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:40,879
Speaker 1: Betty Davis like that she has that like Betty David's face. Yes,

822
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 1: but he also was a huge character actress. He was

823
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: like on love Well, yeah, I mean in that day

824
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: he was one. Also, Jim Bailey was another one. Jim

825
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: Bailey used to impersonate Judy Garland and do a full

826
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: concert as Judy Garland. I mean like the cal Burnett

827
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 1: Show was on Johnny Carson, and the same thing with

828
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 1: Charles Pierce. He was a brilliant character actor. So he

829
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: was on Love Boat, Fantasy Island, he was on everything

830
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: the seventies and you can find him. But it was

831
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 1: just one of those people that actually made a living

832
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: as a drag queen. And I thought, wow, you know,

833
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: that's that's cool. I think I want to do that

834
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 1: like around the same time as like a divine even

835
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 1: or I can. Yes, it would be like two different spectrums,

836
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 1: I think. Um perfect example, Charles Pierce was good friends

837
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 1: with b Arthur if that gives you any his eulogy,

838
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 1: So that's the kind of queen he was, but um

839
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: I think he probably he could be the same age

840
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 1: a divine I can't remember. But it was also you know,

841
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: starting out back then where you didn't have female names,

842
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: starting out when you couldn't dress and drag. I mean,

843
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: there was a time even in New Orleans that you

844
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: would get arrested if you were in drag, which is

845
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: kind of crazy. They put in a Pattiwagon girl takeing

846
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: a jail for wearing heels. So it was a different time.

847
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 1: But I was just shocked by these people that basically

848
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 1: made careers out of this, and we're just brilliantly talented. Yeah,

849
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: if you go to YouTube hole, you gotta look up

850
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: Charles Spears should be cackling. There's one called Charles Pierce

851
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: in San Francisco which was hysterical. You gotta look at it. See.

852
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, are you a little disappointed in

853
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 1: us that we're not as familiar most of the time.

854
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: Most of the time we have some awareness around our

855
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: guests answers. I don't want to care. No, I'm educating you.

856
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 1: It's true. The children, the children don't know. Sometimes the

857
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: children have forgotten. Sometimes the children just don't know. No,

858
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 1: and I think I just think it's it's it's just

859
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: for me. It was just my gay culture. And then

860
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: I knew all of these older, you know, drag queens

861
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: that I worked with throughout the years, that some of

862
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: them they gave me the best advice, you know, throughout

863
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: the years. So I just appreciate That's why I guess

864
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: that's why I'm friends with the old girls, like, you know,

865
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: I mean, they're not much older than me, about ten

866
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: years older, but you know, Sherry, Jackie, Varla, Coco and

867
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: all of them, it's like they've kind of welcomed me

868
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: into that world. But they're you know, they're the best.

869
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,320
Speaker 1: They don't cut, they don't play any games. They deliver

870
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: and I mean you go see any of their shows

871
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: and you come out of that cackling, which is not

872
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: and it feels like that's that's like, that's exactly what

873
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 1: it's supposed to be. It's like you're not give a fuck.

874
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: You're not supposed to give a fuck. What what is

875
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: happening outside in that moment? Where did you know Ruin

876
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 1: All before doing the show? Like where you connected to

877
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 1: Ruin All? No, not not at all. I think my

878
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: only connection with rough it was three or two. I

879
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 1: can't remember. It might have been two. I was still

880
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: in high school. I had a friend that was an

881
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 1: actress and she was introducing at this It was a

882
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: no Aid's Task Force event that was happening in New Orleans.

883
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 1: It was a big thing, Halloween party, and it was

884
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 1: the height of supermodel and so Ru was coming in

885
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: and so I was there and got to see Rue

886
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 1: and um, you know, it was just this big entourage

887
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:25,919
Speaker 1: came in, big long hair. But also at that time,

888
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: nobody was doing it like Rue. You know, so U

889
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: was on TV and hand all this exposure. But that

890
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 1: was the first run in and then in New York.

891
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 1: Occasionally would see her either on the street or at

892
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: Splash Bar when I worked there with Bunny that she

893
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: come oh girl, yeah. Um, so that's where I run

894
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: into a couple of times. That was all pre drag Race.

895
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: So it wasn't until we did the show that you know,

896
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 1: I got to well, I'm not even sure if it

897
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: was her was probably a hologram, but she was in

898
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: the room with me during that. Yeah, right right, yeah.

899
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: I recently I recently actually fell down a wormhole of

900
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: like the So it's so funny because like you just

901
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: think of the Rupel Supermodel moment as this moment that happened,

902
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 1: and that was what catapulted Rue. But what I constantly

903
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: forget is that it was directly connected to the fact

904
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: that like that was also the dawn of the age

905
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: of the supermodel. And the other day I was like,

906
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: I've fallen down a wormhole of like I guess what

907
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 1: they call the Big Six, which was you know, Naomi

908
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: Christy Turlington, Linda Eventelie, I guess, Kate moss Um, Cindy Crawford,

909
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: and like, I don't want to forge, I said, Naomi,

910
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:33,879
Speaker 1: And was it Claudia Schiffer. Maybe it's Cludia Schiffer. Yeah,

911
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 1: So and then like Tyra Banks would come a little

912
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: bit after that, I'm over here saying Carla Bruney like

913
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: an idiot, Well, I guess, like and and I remember

914
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: like there was like, like, I guess Rue was on

915
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: Watch What Happens Live with Naomi and they were Andy

916
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: asked about um the song Supermodel, and Naomi she lit

917
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,760
Speaker 1: up because she was like, we love that so much.

918
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: And I think, like I I sometimes forget that that

919
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: moment for Rue was probably so huge because this supermode

920
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 1: models were so huge, Like nowadays, it's like they try

921
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: to make some of these girls happen in terms of

922
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: being supermodels, Like I guess we have like we know,

923
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: we know their names, like we know who Jijihadi it is.

924
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 1: We know that Kendall Jenner does walk the runway. Um,

925
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 1: but like at the time, like that was such a

926
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 1: huge moment and then for that song to be connected

927
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: to that huge moment pop culturally, that's what made RU

928
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: sort of explode right Like, And they also even opened

929
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: remember the Fashion Cafe, which was like a Planet Hollywood

930
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,919
Speaker 1: gay version that they had. They had it in New York,

931
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: that had one in New Orleans and I think one

932
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: of Los Angeles. So it was like they were investing

933
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: this restaurant that was based all around supermodels, which is

934
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 1: insane to think about. Yeah, the nineties. Yeah, And I

935
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: was I was reading. I was reading because I was

936
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: started trying to educate myself about this because I was like,

937
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: you know, there's really not a lot of supermodels now.

938
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,439
Speaker 1: And it was basically about how those five or six

939
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: women became so powerful in the fashion industry that basically

940
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 1: fashion couldn't go without them. So like it like they

941
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: basically made a decision as an industry that we were

942
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: never going to let six women become this powerful because

943
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 1: like we couldn't they couldn't do control it. Yeah that yeah, yeah,

944
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 1: Like the the I only get out of bed for

945
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 1: was not a joke. That's a good one. You know

946
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 1: what's funny. One time I was in New York and

947
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: I ran into Linda Evangelista at Party City. She was

948
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: buying a spar was because I am, I don't do

949
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: you do this? I don't know if either one of

950
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: you do this? But what a map? But like when

951
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: you go, especially like in New York, it's that type

952
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: of thing where your eyes are always open to seeing

953
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 1: if you know somebody, I'm I'm one of those out

954
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 1: of my groups of friends, I'm the one who spots

955
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: the person first. So I was going up and down

956
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: the old I was in Luau Section and there she was.

957
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: But she was standing there and I'm like you know that,

958
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: mom w And You're like, oh my god, that that

959
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: looks like Linda and Mangelista. This is happening in my

960
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: head going that looks the woman looks a lot like

961
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 1: Linda Maneli is not like that is that woman could

962
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 1: be if she had a little more makeup, if her

963
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: hair was this, if it wasn't a party city, like

964
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,240
Speaker 1: I know, she can't be here. You know, it's New York.

965
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,439
Speaker 1: It's New York. Like I always say, there's a select few,

966
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: a fan of people that you would never see in person.

967
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: Princess Diana, Michael Jackson, maybe because they're dead, but Princess Diana,

968
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson, Madonna you wouldn't see locally. You would run

969
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 1: into lies that you would run into, anybody on the

970
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 1: street that you would go, oh hey, you know, Joan

971
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 1: Rivers was one, Cindy Adams, you know, that kind of

972
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 1: stuff you expect to see, but you wouldn't expect to

973
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: see Linda eventually some part of city. So I was

974
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: shock gonna tell her hello, and she just looked at

975
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: me that I was crazy, and that was that, yeah,

976
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: how are you positive? Because I said, I said to her,

977
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I'm sorry, you look

978
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: a lot like LINDI eventulations because my name is Linda,

979
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: and I go, oh, nice to each I love you,

980
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: and I just went away. I was like, well, you know,

981
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: you've become that faggot, you know, You're like, I'm not

982
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,879
Speaker 1: gonna do it. I'm not going to do it. Yeah.

983
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: One time, one time I was in UM. I was

984
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: in uh Central Park and I was walking with my

985
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 1: friend and we saw Kevin Bacon walking his dog. And

986
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 1: as he was walking by with his dog, she told me,

987
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 1: she says, we're gonna play cool. We're not going to

988
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 1: say anything. I said, of course not. He's walking his dog,

989
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: that's what it is. And as soon as he passes,

990
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,720
Speaker 1: my friend screams, well, I loved you in foot Loose

991
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, what a fucking troll like

992
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:06,760
Speaker 1: that girl? Yeah, so one he hasn't heard before us exactly. Anyway,

993
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: they kept moving, but you know, what's your emma when

994
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: people do that to you. Though, I don't mind it,

995
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm happy if they even give a shit,

996
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 1: you know. I like it when it's a surprise one.

997
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: So it's like if you're going through t s A

998
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: and you're standing there and you've put this and they've

999
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: pulled your bag aside, and you're like, I know, because

1000
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: when you're traveling a lot, you're like, it ain't no

1001
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: water in there, there ain't no gun, what the funk

1002
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: is up? And they pull the bag over and then

1003
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: you go over there and I'm like, this is gonna

1004
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:32,760
Speaker 1: be another ten minutes. I can't sit in the lounge,

1005
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: and it's somebody going, hey, you were my favorite. I

1006
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 1: just want to tell you hello, Can I get a

1007
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: bag back? So those moments are fun. Um they hold

1008
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: your back just to say hi. Yeah, she was telling me,

1009
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 1: was just wiping my bag down, telling me hello that

1010
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 1: was her favorite. It's like that I couldn't give this

1011
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 1: back to you until I said it's like, well, if

1012
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: you have to give it back to me, yeah, but

1013
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,720
Speaker 1: you wouldn't expect it. So it's that kind of saying.

1014
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: That's fun. A flight attendant, somebody at Starbucks that write

1015
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: your name on the cup before you even see it,

1016
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:01,720
Speaker 1: and then it's like you get it. It's like Bianca

1017
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: with a heart. You're like, oh, this is fucking dumb,

1018
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: but it is kind of wild. It's kind of wild

1019
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: because you know, when you when you go and film

1020
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 1: that stuff, you just don't know. Like in my head,

1021
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: I thought maybe my friends in New York would watch

1022
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: my people I know in Los Angeles and people in

1023
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 1: New Orleans. I didn't expect for everybody in different countries

1024
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: to watch globally to know or care. Yeah, your season

1025
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 1: was a seat change, though I really think that, you know,

1026
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: because so four and five like really put it on

1027
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 1: the map, and then I really do believe like everyone

1028
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 1: in the queer community and put everyone in quot it's

1029
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 1: but like everyone all my friends were watching by season six.

1030
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 1: I think even season six was maybe the first season

1031
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: that I was like, Okay, I'm actually I knew I

1032
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 1: liked the show since season two, but it wasn't my

1033
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: favorite show until season six, and then I think it

1034
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: was like around six, seven, eight, and then I believe

1035
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 1: by the time Season I was happening, it was like

1036
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: a full blown phenomenon. But your season was really the

1037
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: season where it started to change. I think it was

1038
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: good casting. I think it was just that they all,

1039
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we were all like Courtney Courtney

1040
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 1: act was extremely established, you know, globally working and doing stuff,

1041
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 1: and she was in late twenties and thirties, and the

1042
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: door was huge on the American idol there, and I

1043
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,399
Speaker 1: mean I was the thirties seven, so they allowed older.

1044
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 1: Darien was older than me, so it was there was

1045
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 1: a lot of diversity in age and also experience, which

1046
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: was great um and and you know, down to the

1047
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 1: final four, we were all completely different as people and

1048
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: not necessarily in competition with one another. So it's not

1049
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: like I think, now it's hard for me to watch

1050
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: because there's you know, these little Instagram girls where they

1051
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,360
Speaker 1: look gorgeous in a photo, but I go, what do

1052
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: you do? Like, what are you? You know? Yeah, I

1053
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: mean you've heard this a million times, but it does

1054
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: feel like six was the last season before things started

1055
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: to tip into Instagram appealing, before things started to be

1056
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: done on the show with the like four sight of

1057
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 1: like what's it gonna look like on insta? R right?

1058
00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 1: Six six was sort of that last little moment that

1059
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 1: we all sort of hold dear that I remember being like, okay,

1060
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 1: there's something changing with seven once it came on, and

1061
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I longed for the days of

1062
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 1: season six. Like I heard myself saying that, well, I

1063
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: didn't even have Instagram or Twitter until I did the show.

1064
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 1: So it was that kind of a thing where they

1065
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 1: were like, well, would be best if you maybe get

1066
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: online and create a social profile, And I'm like, so

1067
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: it was something that they they suggested you do, They

1068
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 1: suggested to us we didn't have. And it's tricky now

1069
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: because you know, it's a completely different world as far

1070
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: as the contracts are concerned and the media signed with

1071
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,240
Speaker 1: VH one being involved. So even once you filmed the show,

1072
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 1: H v H one and all of them will sit

1073
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: with you separately and then go through their propaganda fucare

1074
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 1: and things that you're expected and things you have to do.

1075
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,839
Speaker 1: It's kind of like um appearances as Miss America. You know,

1076
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: I didn't have any of that. It was really like

1077
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: you do the show. We were paid five hundred bucks

1078
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 1: an episode. That's what it was. It was two days

1079
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: for every episode except for our rusical, which took three days. UM.

1080
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 1: And that was that contract was show up at the

1081
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: finale and we're happy, thank you so much, and then

1082
00:49:58,239 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 1: I got my money and that was that. So I'd

1083
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 1: didn't have any restrictions. I was not signed to them

1084
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,359
Speaker 1: or any of that madness. So it's a completely different game.

1085
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,240
Speaker 1: I think the same thing kind of happened with American Idol,

1086
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 1: where it was free for all for a hot minute,

1087
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: and then they started controlling and handling all the girls,

1088
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: which is the situation there in now. So you know,

1089
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: good luck, I'm glad I didn't when I did it,

1090
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's it's a different world, and I think

1091
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: as the show has gotten bigger, um, you know, the

1092
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 1: rules have changed and the demographic has changed, you know,

1093
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: so it can be challenging me. It's a blessing, and

1094
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,720
Speaker 1: of course I'm grateful for the platform, but I also

1095
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 1: refused to have a thirteen year old girl named Bethany

1096
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: tell me how the funk I should live my life

1097
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: or what I should say or shouldn't say because she

1098
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 1: didn't like it. No, No, that is the time. That's

1099
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 1: got to be The tough thing is it's like, you know,

1100
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 1: someone like Tina Burner, who's like an established queen for

1101
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 1: decades in New York, and then she goes on and

1102
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: like the fucking twelve year old fandom is like wait out,

1103
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: Like yeah, it's like, well, who the funk are you? Like,

1104
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: she's been doing it longer than you've been alive and

1105
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: that a joke. She literally might have shoes older than

1106
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: these kids complete. But it's also the chance you take.

1107
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 1: It's the chance you take. And you know, I'm friends

1108
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 1: with Tina, and Tina all she ever wanted was to

1109
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 1: be on the show, and I think that's also the

1110
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: hard thing too, is that when you want it so

1111
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: bad and you've always wanted to be And I think

1112
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: she auditioned like ten times where it was like every season,

1113
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 1: so she finally gets on and it's it's a it's

1114
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 1: a it's a gamble. You know, you just never know

1115
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 1: how people are going to react. But it's just I mean,

1116
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: it has nothing to do with Tina as a person

1117
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 1: or the way she comes off on television, and it

1118
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: has everything to do with the way that audiences expect

1119
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 1: to be um in the conversation. I expect to dictate

1120
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: the conversation or they're the ones interpreting what's happening on

1121
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: their televisions in a way that's supposed to like materially

1122
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:46,280
Speaker 1: affect these girls lives. It's like this affects their bookings,

1123
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 1: This effects like the way that people approach them. I mean,

1124
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,760
Speaker 1: like I think for me in particular, I was grateful

1125
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 1: that I didn't have social media all those years before

1126
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: because I didn't know how social media worked. I didn't

1127
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 1: know that I I didn't over so I don't play

1128
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 1: the victim. I don't care what you think of me,

1129
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,919
Speaker 1: and so in this game, I don't use social media

1130
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 1: as a platform to even discuss anything personal or get

1131
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 1: into it, whereas drag race, you know the storytelling and

1132
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: the funcory. And I was left at a bus stop

1133
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: and I overcame the sing a song, dance, blow up balloons,

1134
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 1: make it entertaining. No one is gonna go see her

1135
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 1: show because she was left at a bus stop, like

1136
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 1: what the fuck? Like? And I love Roxy Rocks and

1137
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: I are friends and Roxy is a very talented performer.

1138
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,280
Speaker 1: And what I hate, what I hate is all people

1139
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 1: know is she was left at a bus stop like that.

1140
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 1: That's that's the label that's there. And I mean I

1141
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: went to dinner with her and she annoyed the ship

1142
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: out of me. And I mean I left her at

1143
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 1: the restaurant. But it's the same thing where you just

1144
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 1: go like I always tell people her family left at

1145
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 1: the bus stop. Have you said at dinner weather I

1146
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 1: left her there? Like why? But she's got a good

1147
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: sense of humor. But it's a tricky situation with it

1148
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: because if you start to believe it and it just

1149
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 1: becomes your world, they get wrapped up in it, and

1150
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 1: then the girls get desperate and now it's like over

1151
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,479
Speaker 1: saturation so it's really hard. Everybody's trying to get ahead

1152
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 1: and everybody's trying to stay afloat. You know, like season

1153
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: wasn't Season eleven that happened during pandemic or twelve yea,

1154
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: So twelve came out during the pandemic and that was

1155
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 1: the sherry pie of it all. It was like fuckory right,

1156
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,800
Speaker 1: and I felt so bad for that season of Girls,

1157
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: And then this season was when they shot it in

1158
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 1: during So it's just it's it's like it's a lot

1159
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 1: of people out there, so everybody's trying to grasp and

1160
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 1: get that that limelight, and it's very very challenging to

1161
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 1: do it, especially when you get wrapped up in the

1162
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,879
Speaker 1: fury of online. Yeah. I mean, but but now I'm

1163
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 1: just realizing, and I've kind of known this the whole time,

1164
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 1: but it's like your time on the show was never

1165
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:45,879
Speaker 1: you had never given the producers any crumb of like

1166
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 1: a personal narrative, which I probably made made your sort

1167
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 1: of like your season in terms of your win so clean,

1168
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 1: in terms of it being just about the work, and

1169
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: it was just like, yes, of course Bionco deserves it

1170
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 1: because it's Bianca and she is so solid all season

1171
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 1: it was tricky. That's one of the reasons why I

1172
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: didn't think I was gonna win. You know, as you're

1173
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 1: going through it, you know, remember we're doing this over

1174
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 1: a five and a half week period. Every day is

1175
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 1: you know, we're doing it, so we don't have all

1176
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 1: this space. So every two days is one episode. So

1177
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 1: all I kept thinking was let's just get through, just

1178
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 1: get through, get through. You do confessionals, um every day,

1179
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 1: so so that's a whole separate team. So basically the

1180
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 1: show itself. You come in the morning, we walk in,

1181
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 1: you know, our headphones are bag, she gives us our challenge.

1182
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 1: We start this challenge. The next day is ruined, drag, runway,

1183
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 1: all of that. But each day when it ends, a

1184
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:37,399
Speaker 1: different production team comes in and we do basically the

1185
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 1: untucked and our confessionals. So we get into our one

1186
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 1: outfit we were the first season they started doing that,

1187
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:45,839
Speaker 1: so if you had on a shirt an episode one,

1188
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: you had to wear that shirt every day for confessionals,

1189
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:52,399
Speaker 1: so they could use the footage as they chose um.

1190
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 1: And you know, you would just sit back with this

1191
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 1: producer and they would ask you questions about the day

1192
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 1: and you would respond and my responses were always just like, well,

1193
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 1: this is what I thought, this is I thought. And

1194
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: there was a moment. I remember they had an issue

1195
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: with Benda la Creme. Uh, she was going on some

1196
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 1: SOB story in the corner and I didn't hear it.

1197
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 1: I didn't hear the SOB story. So they were like, well,

1198
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: what did you feel about Benda the Creme story? I

1199
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: said I didn't hear it, and they said, well, what

1200
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 1: we need to get something from you. I go I

1201
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 1: didn't hear it, and they got, well, you know she

1202
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 1: had family members. I I didn't fucking hear it. I

1203
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't care about her or her family, Like,

1204
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 1: we can't use that. I got quite asking, but it

1205
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 1: was that kind of a thing where if you back down,

1206
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 1: then you probably made up some bullshit that would have

1207
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 1: stirred up a fight. But I was just like, I

1208
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 1: don't care. I don't care about her. And it was

1209
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 1: like they felt like they didn't really need it from you, though,

1210
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 1: because the other girls were in such despair. I mean,

1211
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: that was like the really tough LOGNGA narrative. And I

1212
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 1: feel badly about that because I feel like, you know

1213
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 1: who i'd love to see come back for an All

1214
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: Star because she's so good, she's so talented, and just

1215
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: felt like that was like such a nightmare for her

1216
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: because is like and then then she said afterwards, like

1217
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: I guess she really needs weed medically, and like they

1218
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,280
Speaker 1: weren't letting her have it, Like I would be freaking

1219
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 1: out too if that were the case, Like, and I

1220
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 1: just feel like that became such a it's actually that

1221
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 1: I feel very attacked. While while it is funny and

1222
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 1: a meme like and we do laugh like the woman

1223
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: is having a paddic attack, it was it was a

1224
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 1: wild scenario and and it was a very long day

1225
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 1: that day, and I knew the thing was at what

1226
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 1: we were on the show. I wanted to kill her.

1227
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 1: I just wanted to kill her because of it wasn't

1228
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 1: just what was happening on camera, because remember I'm not

1229
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:34,799
Speaker 1: seeing her confessionals. I don't know anything that's going on

1230
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,800
Speaker 1: other than what she's showing us in the room. So

1231
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 1: that was maybe my connection with her, but the whole

1232
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 1: thing with her family and doing drag and the sympathy

1233
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 1: and the family not accepting her. I sat with a

1234
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 1: producer in my confessionals and I was like, uh, this

1235
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 1: ain't adding up. And she's like, well, would you be

1236
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,959
Speaker 1: willing to bring it up in front of her? I go, oh, yeah,

1237
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 1: because it doesn't add up. So when we were in

1238
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 1: that room that day and I knew it was I

1239
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 1: knew she was going. We just knew she was going,

1240
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 1: and that's what I was just like, you know what,

1241
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 1: And that's when it went beyond. But after that we

1242
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 1: you know, we've we're friends now. And she's like, that

1243
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:10,839
Speaker 1: really helped her, was getting her as kicked, and then

1244
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 1: she realized how ridiculous she was being. And you know,

1245
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 1: she's much better now. She's lovely to be around now.

1246
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 1: I just saw in Los Angeles. Yeah, yeah, she's great.

1247
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 1: She just seems she seems to be in a great place.

1248
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 1: And I don't know that it's necessarily, like mentally helpful

1249
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 1: for us as years to recommend that she go back

1250
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 1: into that environment. That was That's why I think she

1251
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 1: keeps saying no. I mean, I would imagine that they've asked,

1252
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 1: you know, they asked a lot of people. I think

1253
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 1: I think I think no. I think she's great television.

1254
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 1: She's a talented performer and truly and honestly, any situation

1255
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 1: we had on set even I was joking about bend

1256
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: of the crime earlier is that, you know, we all

1257
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 1: become friends, and it was just this weird thing that

1258
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 1: once you get to the very end of it, everybody

1259
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: was kind of like, oh, okay, this is how it works,

1260
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 1: and we're glad this happened this way. Like it wasn't

1261
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 1: vindictive or nasty or hateful like Courtney, and they were like,

1262
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: we knew you were gonna win. I like, I thought

1263
00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 1: you were gonna win, Like I thought a Door was

1264
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 1: gonna win because she ride, you know, I don't you know,

1265
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: you don't know when you're in it. So I think

1266
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 1: that's what's the great thing about that season because everybody

1267
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 1: brought something different to the you know, to the table.

1268
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 1: Whereas now I think you can be in production and

1269
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 1: like have some like telegraph something in order to get

1270
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: a response months down the line when the episode comes out,

1271
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 1: Like do you guys know what I'm talking about? You

1272
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 1: can you can engineer a response from the audience months ahead. Yeah,

1273
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever you do on the show,

1274
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, Well if you notice now, if you

1275
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 1: go to Twitter right now and you look at any

1276
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: drag race Queen that's being nice to everyone on Twitter.

1277
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 1: That means she's trying to get liked because she's on

1278
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 1: All Stars. So I laugh at that when they're like

1279
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 1: everybody's everybody is different and we need to embrace shut

1280
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 1: the funk up. You're a nanty count. We know it,

1281
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 1: like we know you go home six. So is that

1282
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 1: kind of a thing where they're trying to, you know,

1283
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 1: fix it before it all happens, where we were told,

1284
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 1: don't get unlined, don't say a word, don't do and

1285
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 1: so it was a different, different word. We filmed in

1286
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 1: June and July and it didn't air n till February,

1287
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 1: so we had all that time to shut the funk

1288
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 1: up about it, and that was our quiet time, you know,

1289
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 1: when you know New York. It was weird because I worked,

1290
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 1: i think at the time, four days a week in

1291
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 1: Fire Island and I took off to go film and

1292
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 1: I didn't tell anybody except with a handful of people.

1293
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 1: And as soon as I left sus I didn't show

1294
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 1: up for the first gig, they were like something that

1295
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 1: I don't ever not show up. So it was that

1296
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 1: was when it all kind of snowball. But I was

1297
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 1: horrified that if I said something, I would lose the opportunity.

1298
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 1: You know, now they got some ballsy bitches. Now they're

1299
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 1: all ballsy. Well, it's like it's like if you know

1300
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 1: the right people. Now it's like you know what happens

1301
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 1: in a season. The second they returned, it's like it's

1302
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 1: like something one of them is fun and smelling everything.

1303
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 1: I mean, usually I have to really tell people like that,

1304
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 1: I know, I don't want to know this year like

1305
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 1: this this really think the first year where I was

1306
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 1: like I don't want to know and you don't want

1307
00:59:55,520 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 1: to know, like like All Stars certain a third. But

1308
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 1: for the regular seasons, I always tell people. I was like,

1309
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 1: I don't want to know, and it was still spoiled

1310
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 1: from me that Rose was on the top four, Like

1311
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 1: I knew that about six weeks before, and I was like,

1312
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 1: I told you guys, oh yeah wait, but let me

1313
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 1: ask you, are you too like Reddit people, do you

1314
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 1: go like search the ship out? Okay, okay, okay, yeah,

1315
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 1: because I don't get into that either. But usually end

1316
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 1: up we end up finding out from everyone else, or

1317
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 1: usually when I get a call while there's production going

1318
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 1: and I get a business call from a queen because

1319
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 1: they love to ask, well, what about management, what about

1320
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: t shirts? Um, So then I really know that they're back.

1321
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 1: And then they give me their version of what happens.

1322
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 1: That's really the best. That's what you get, their version

1323
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 1: of their version. Happy with all of my choices. And

1324
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 1: I said this, and I did that, but I think

1325
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 1: it's gonna look great. Cut to three months later. Oh

1326
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 1: fuck tricky. It's tricky, and and it's TV. It is.

1327
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 1: And one other thing that I think is really different

1328
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 1: about the show now, and I think it's becoming not

1329
01:00:56,240 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 1: a problem, but it's becoming a real like rub in

1330
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 1: the show that I think is funny, but the references

1331
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 1: and sort of content that ruined the judges assume the

1332
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 1: kids will know and they're really like twenty years old,

1333
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 1: like when like when none of them could name disco songs,

1334
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 1: even Tina Burner was having a hard time like naming

1335
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 1: three disco songs in front of RU, and like, you know,

1336
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 1: when they didn't know who Charles Nelson Riley was and

1337
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 1: RU was like, fuck you guys. But RU just seems

1338
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 1: to have a good sense of humor about it. But

1339
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 1: that is like like I wonder, like like it's it's

1340
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 1: such a different I guess it's just that's how it's

1341
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 1: gonna be. One time passes. Like these young girls, they

1342
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 1: hear they they are the ones that say Taylor Swift legend,

1343
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, it's it's just it's

1344
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 1: just different. That's where we are now. And I mean

1345
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 1: I find it fascinating because you know, it has something.

1346
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 1: If you want people to know that, you might want

1347
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 1: to cast people that are old enough to remember it.

1348
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 1: But and that's why I think it's like if you

1349
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 1: can't just assume they're going to all be able to

1350
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 1: slay a share impression now in the year of our lorde.

1351
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 1: You know what it's like, it can't be too mad

1352
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 1: that that you know, like this queen who like main

1353
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 1: like it doesn't have a reference for this, doesn't have

1354
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 1: the reference for this without a doubt or or what

1355
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 1: I find fascinating too, is it when you think about

1356
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 1: that something is being created by people that are over

1357
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 1: fifty years old and you're creating it for a demographic

1358
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 1: of thirteen to thirty eight. It's like it's gotta be

1359
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 1: a disconnect. So the fact that Denali didn't nail Betty Davis,

1360
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 1: like it's just it's not gonna matter to the twelve

1361
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 1: year old snow and there's fifteen facts and I'm going

1362
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 1: I could do it. I could do it. Yeah, completely,

1363
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 1: it is funny, it's changed. Yeah. What was it like

1364
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 1: I'm talking about because you did this thing with Joan

1365
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 1: Rivers where you were on her talk show and bed. Yeah,

1366
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 1: what was that like because I remember watching that back

1367
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 1: back in the day. Yeah, No, it was a while ago. Yeah,

1368
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 1: it was a while ago. Yeah, it was yeah, because

1369
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 1: I was, um, well, you know, living in New York,

1370
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 1: you run into Joan everywhere, like if there was an

1371
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 1: opening up probably show, whether it be Lakaje or anything

1372
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 1: that I was at. Well, these two events that I

1373
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 1: was at, it was Lakaje and Priscilla. She was there

1374
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 1: both those opening nights and I was in Drag. It

1375
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 1: was one of those random things where they were like, hey,

1376
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 1: can you show up and drag. We had to leave

1377
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 1: Priscilla now, we had to leave Lakaje. No, Priscilla, we

1378
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 1: had to leave early because Bunny's hair people couldn't sit behind.

1379
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 1: But we um we had gone and done these events

1380
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 1: and she was always very gracious and said hello. And

1381
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 1: this was before we before everybody had a phone with

1382
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 1: a camera. I don't I don't think that was your

1383
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 1: face then. Um. She was always very gracious and always

1384
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 1: very nice. And then I was running around doing all

1385
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 1: these different gigs and I was booked in Ohio and

1386
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 1: had been to Akron, I've been to uh Cleveland, and

1387
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 1: it was a random gig that they wanted me for

1388
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 1: a Sunday. And then I got a call from a

1389
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 1: guy that's a comedian by the name of Tony Tripoli.

1390
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 1: And Tony used to write for Joan Rivers on Fashion

1391
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 1: Police and he said, Hey, would you want to do

1392
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 1: this this YouTube show? I said, what does Johan doing

1393
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 1: a YouTube show? He goes, well, nobody wanted to pick

1394
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 1: up the show, but she said, let's do it on YouTube.

1395
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 1: I could do whatever the funk I want. And I

1396
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 1: thought that's insane that nobody went on IM like, yeah,

1397
01:03:58,160 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 1: of course I'm doing signing it up. So I called

1398
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 1: all my manager at the time, and I said I'd

1399
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:02,919
Speaker 1: like to do this and he's like, well, I don't

1400
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 1: think it's the best idea because you know, she's not

1401
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 1: paying and blah blah blah. And I'm like uhh and

1402
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 1: he's like, well, She's not gonna pay for your flight

1403
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 1: or your hotel, just like, bitch, please like. So I

1404
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 1: flew to Los Angeles and we we went into Melissa

1405
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:20,960
Speaker 1: River's house and I was the third of four that

1406
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 1: she was doing that day. The guy before me was

1407
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 1: that nave guy from Catfish on Empty Far. She was

1408
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 1: before me boring, and then I came in, and then

1409
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 1: after me was Lann Rhymes. Um. But all of this

1410
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:36,440
Speaker 1: was happening in the house and you really do go

1411
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 1: down to the basement, and we were supposed to do

1412
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 1: like I think, what was it something crazy, Jamie? Was

1413
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 1: it like with fifteen minutes and thirty minutes or something.

1414
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 1: I ended up doing an hour of us just cackling

1415
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 1: and talking ships. Ever, she was like the best and

1416
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 1: the reason why I'm in a onesies. I did my

1417
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 1: hair and stuff at the hotel and got there with

1418
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 1: the ones and I brought three different outfits and I'm like, John,

1419
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 1: which one do you think? She was like what she

1420
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 1: got on? So that's why I wore it. But she

1421
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 1: was truly the best, And I have to say that,

1422
01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 1: you know, someone of her caliber didn't have to be nice,

1423
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 1: didn't have to be generous, didn't have to set you

1424
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 1: up to make a jokes, and she was all of that,

1425
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 1: and I was just like my eleven year old self

1426
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 1: was going keep going, keep going, keep going. But she

1427
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 1: was the best, truly, truly one of my favorite memories,

1428
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 1: and I'm so happy I did this. But it was

1429
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 1: a freshman or of n y U as it was

1430
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 1: two thousand eight, so she had to be seventy five.

1431
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 1: And for some reason, it was like it was like

1432
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 1: my third or fourth week in the city and I

1433
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:32,920
Speaker 1: wanted to do something, and I i there was something

1434
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 1: on like the n y U website that was like

1435
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 1: a learning everyone to like things that were happening in

1436
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:38,919
Speaker 1: the city, and it was like Joan Rivers was doing

1437
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:42,440
Speaker 1: stand up. So I took this girl on my floor,

1438
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 1: like down to I don't even remember the v It

1439
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 1: might it might have been the cutting room, but it

1440
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 1: was like when I tell you, it was like she

1441
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:53,200
Speaker 1: would do two of them. It was like very bar.

1442
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:55,360
Speaker 1: It was. It was not a theater. It was like

1443
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 1: it was like there was like a stage in the

1444
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 1: back of a bar. It might have been the cutting room.

1445
01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 1: In fact, that that rings true, so there might have

1446
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 1: been people there, but she she was there and I

1447
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 1: remember she got up and she was like doing new material,

1448
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 1: Like she was like she had all this new material,

1449
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 1: and I remember like I was just I couldn't believe

1450
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 1: that more people weren't there to soak in, like you know,

1451
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna the word is overused, but not for her, true,

1452
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 1: completely true, true icon. And she was there killing it

1453
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 1: and I'm telling you, doing jokes that were not for

1454
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 1: the fan of heart, like hard, rough and tumble, right,

1455
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 1: like really going for it like and I was like,

1456
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 1: this is pure, unfiltered Joane. And it's one It's one

1457
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 1: of the things I will always remember, and it's brilliant

1458
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 1: that you know, at that age to even go try

1459
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 1: at material she doesn't have to she had, but that

1460
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 1: was her gig. And you know, the night the day

1461
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 1: that she died, well, not the day that she died,

1462
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 1: with the day she went into the hospital. That next morning,

1463
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 1: she worked at the Lorie Beachman Theater the night before

1464
01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 1: doing a show, trying out new material, and then she

1465
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 1: had this scope that she was supposed to do the

1466
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 1: next day at a clinic and that's when everything went downhill.

1467
01:07:06,040 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 1: And it's just I was in Australia when it happened,

1468
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 1: and it was so weird because I was like, you know,

1469
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 1: like this no, not done, no, And it was just

1470
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 1: fascinating that the turn of events that happened after that,

1471
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:18,440
Speaker 1: we're pretty wild. But to know that she was in

1472
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 1: that place the night before doing jokes, it's just that's

1473
01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 1: the way to go, I guess, right, you know, yeah,

1474
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 1: I mean I gotta watch that documentary again. Piece of work.

1475
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 1: Piece of work. I mean I haven't seen it since.

1476
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:32,880
Speaker 1: I think I watched again after she passed away, like

1477
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 1: right after, because I was like, I gotta like honor

1478
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:38,200
Speaker 1: this somehow. But like, but to have that like work ethic,

1479
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 1: I think I don't know that even people like our generation,

1480
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 1: like between me and Matt, like, I don't do you

1481
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:47,960
Speaker 1: know anybody who like works like that? I mean literally

1482
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 1: there's people that are like the pandemic is hard on

1483
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 1: me emotionally, and I can't see myself going up on stage.

1484
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 1: It's like Joan Rivers would have been up for like

1485
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:57,280
Speaker 1: she like whatever, she would have had like the like

1486
01:07:57,520 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 1: mask on whatever. She's like, I don't care what I

1487
01:07:59,080 --> 01:08:00,760
Speaker 1: have to do to get on stage. It's like, you know,

1488
01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 1: nothing was stopping her. It was clear and then you

1489
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:06,840
Speaker 1: know that's true stand up, a true workhorse, a true

1490
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:10,640
Speaker 1: like consummate professional that she was. She was never done.

1491
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 1: She was never done. And also like a lot of

1492
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:16,120
Speaker 1: these a lot of the jokes, like you know, she

1493
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 1: knew they were bombers because like she was like she

1494
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 1: was like she had jokes that were killing and jokes

1495
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:24,800
Speaker 1: that were bombing, but she was having so much fun

1496
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 1: doing it. I will say, yeah, it was because also

1497
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 1: after that time frame, you know, then they had that

1498
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:32,439
Speaker 1: whole switch with the Fashion Police and stuff, and they

1499
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 1: had Kathy Griffin comin and blah blah blah, and so

1500
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:36,679
Speaker 1: I knew some people that were writing on the show

1501
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 1: after Joan had left. And if anybody knew this, Joane

1502
01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 1: had eleven writers for Fashion Police. Eleven. Now that's how

1503
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 1: you do it. Eleven writers, and Cathy had decided that

1504
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:48,559
Speaker 1: she didn't want any. And I'm like, kind of if

1505
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:51,719
Speaker 1: Joan had eleven, you need forty six. That's all I'm saying.

1506
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 1: You know, it's that kind of a thing where you're

1507
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 1: like that made sense, because how would this seventy five

1508
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:58,559
Speaker 1: year old woman know anybody or know any reference to

1509
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 1: anything unless she had a rights And I mean That's

1510
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 1: what was so great is that as giving as she was,

1511
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 1: she was also accepted. If it's funny, she would use

1512
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:06,720
Speaker 1: it and she would get out there and and try it,

1513
01:09:06,880 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 1: you know, and that's what you're supposed to do. That

1514
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:11,880
Speaker 1: documentary really did kind of put into perspective like though

1515
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 1: it was her against the world, it really was. And

1516
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 1: I mean, like the disrespect she was shown by Jay Leno, like,

1517
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 1: I mean, just like all of it, just like she

1518
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 1: the fact that she was still going, I mean, that

1519
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 1: was that is a true legend in in the truest

1520
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:28,639
Speaker 1: sense of the word. Name another legend. Now you really

1521
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 1: can't you can't. I really can't know. You can't know,

1522
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 1: you can't you can't. Speaking of legends, this is our legendary.

1523
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. So this is the sort

1524
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 1: of what would we say about the point of the

1525
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:51,800
Speaker 1: show where things get a little hot. This is the

1526
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 1: point of the show where you know, things are said

1527
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:58,559
Speaker 1: that can't be taken back. We take big swings with

1528
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 1: our opinions and we we go for it, just like Jones. Um.

1529
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:05,160
Speaker 1: This is our segment where we take one minute each

1530
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:08,240
Speaker 1: to rail against something in culture while saying the words

1531
01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, So stupid Matt and I

1532
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 1: will go first, and then Uncle will go. Um, we'll

1533
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:18,479
Speaker 1: choose a topic. Uh, Matt, do you have one? I

1534
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 1: you know I was gonna do. Uh. I don't think so, honey,

1535
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 1: Tom Cruise Stanners, but not. But I have something else.

1536
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:27,200
Speaker 1: It's it's ripe in the culture and I can't speak

1537
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 1: to it. Okay, all right, this is Matt Rodgers's I

1538
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:33,240
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey, And as time starts now, I

1539
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:36,360
Speaker 1: don't think so honey. Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez critics,

1540
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:39,760
Speaker 1: Let them get They're not, you know what, they've both

1541
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 1: been fucking through it. Let them get their nut with

1542
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 1: each other, if that's what they want to do. If

1543
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 1: Jennifer Lopez, after all of this, after missing out on

1544
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 1: the Oscar nomination for Hustlers, after these flop therrages, after

1545
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:52,559
Speaker 1: this flop boyfriend Arad, who I'm sorry is a flop,

1546
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:55,760
Speaker 1: let her get her fucking nut. Let her return to

1547
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 1: the guy who gave her her best nut, because guess

1548
01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:01,240
Speaker 1: what if that's Ben Affleck, that's fine. And guess what

1549
01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 1: look am I like a bed Affleck? Stand? I am not?

1550
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 1: But I don't think so, honey, anyone telling me he

1551
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 1: can't put it down, because I'm bet when he gets

1552
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:12,720
Speaker 1: to it in the bedroom he is a one track mine,

1553
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 1: especially when he has some of those cold brews. You

1554
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 1: see him carrying from the dunkin Donuts. You know the

1555
01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 1: guy has slowed up. I don't think so, honey. Anyone

1556
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:23,400
Speaker 1: being like, oh, why is she going back to him? Bitch?

1557
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:25,639
Speaker 1: You know you're not in the bed with them. Let

1558
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:28,800
Speaker 1: her get her fucking nuts, trying from the black like

1559
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:31,760
Speaker 1: Jenny on this cop be a black cock. I don't

1560
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:38,479
Speaker 1: think so, honey. Everything else, And that's one man. I'm

1561
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 1: sitting here trying to think of who the funk I'm

1562
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:42,320
Speaker 1: gonna talk about. And I was fascinated with his toyell

1563
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:46,760
Speaker 1: like that telling you. I'm just saying, like, like people are,

1564
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:49,719
Speaker 1: like they were photographed looking sad together in a fucking

1565
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:52,720
Speaker 1: truck in Montana. I'm like, they're sad because you're following them.

1566
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:55,679
Speaker 1: They're way to get their nuts. They're not smiling yet.

1567
01:11:55,800 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, Yeah, Bowen is shaking his finger. No,

1568
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:04,720
Speaker 1: I'm an agreement. I think you let them figure it out.

1569
01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:09,799
Speaker 1: And sometimes these like these crazy just phantoms of love's

1570
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:12,880
Speaker 1: past come come like creeping back into your Those are

1571
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:15,760
Speaker 1: the hottest ones. Honestly all the time. When whenever you

1572
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 1: get out of a relationship, like it's one of the

1573
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:20,600
Speaker 1: it's one of those like things you can't explain, Like

1574
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 1: you do think about your exes and you're like, fuck,

1575
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:25,760
Speaker 1: I'm sort of horny for my ex even if one

1576
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 1: of the reasons why you broke up is because that

1577
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:30,640
Speaker 1: wasn't really popping off you still afterward you miss what

1578
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:34,400
Speaker 1: you had. It's always it's like, well, some I don't

1579
01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:38,639
Speaker 1: know my experience anyway. It's just like there are guys

1580
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:40,639
Speaker 1: that I've hooked up with in the past, like years

1581
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 1: and years and years ago, where I was just like

1582
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 1: that was only fine. Now I see them, I'm horny. Really, yes,

1583
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. It's the patina. No,

1584
01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 1: I just I look at anybody that I bet, well

1585
01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:55,679
Speaker 1: most of them are dad, but the ones that aren't,

1586
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 1: I just kind of go dodge that fucking bullet, like

1587
01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:01,640
Speaker 1: thank God, like, oh, I was right, you know that

1588
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:04,240
Speaker 1: kind of a thing. Yeah, yeah, but sometimes even that

1589
01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:09,880
Speaker 1: discussed that, like I was right, like this guy, there's

1590
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:11,479
Speaker 1: there's no one that you're like, oh, the one that

1591
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 1: got away no one, I mean except uncle, except my uncle,

1592
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 1: but that was a different story. But I'm from the South,

1593
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:22,200
Speaker 1: so it's accepted. Well that's how you learned. Yeah, don't

1594
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 1: don't use your teeth, kid. Yeah, some of myself, some

1595
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:29,479
Speaker 1: of my worst kids, some of my worst relationships are

1596
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 1: like lacks thereof like terrible like excuses for things. I'm

1597
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:34,719
Speaker 1: like despite myself, I don't know what this is. Again,

1598
01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:39,599
Speaker 1: need therapy bad dot com like I need. But sometimes

1599
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 1: I'm just like for that horny, for that bad situation.

1600
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:44,760
Speaker 1: Oh god, that way I gotta think about. For what

1601
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:46,800
Speaker 1: the funk am I going to talk about? Well we

1602
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:49,720
Speaker 1: have we have Bowen Yang's in the interim. I'm gonna

1603
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:52,559
Speaker 1: pulling out my ass too. It's fine, don't worry about Okay,

1604
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 1: hot hot, He's pulling alright. So Bowen, here's the deal.

1605
01:13:57,240 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 1: This right out of your ass? Two on the airwaves

1606
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 1: is Bowen Yang's. I don't think so, honey. His time

1607
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:04,760
Speaker 1: starts now. I don't think so, honey. My performance in

1608
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:08,960
Speaker 1: Girls five ever, I watched myself back and I thought, oh,

1609
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 1: I'm really gassing it. What am I doing with my mouth?

1610
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 1: Why did I carry? Why did I like why where's

1611
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:16,840
Speaker 1: my center of gravity in this scene? And like why why?

1612
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:20,280
Speaker 1: Like I truly SNL has cursed me. I'm sorry to

1613
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 1: talk about to talk shop and talk about work, and

1614
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 1: I hate like just being like this, but like SNL

1615
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 1: has truly cursed me. I can't do anything but go

1616
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 1: big and I'm I'm only used to reading things off

1617
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 1: of a Q card anywhere else the credits are non

1618
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 1: transferable when you work there. How am I going to

1619
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:41,519
Speaker 1: bring this anywhere else I go? I've been sucked over

1620
01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:44,200
Speaker 1: by this, this place of work. I don't know how

1621
01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:47,640
Speaker 1: to behave on a normal set. When when like his

1622
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 1: fancy cameras pointed at me, like a steady cameras pointed

1623
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:52,800
Speaker 1: at me or something or a crane or whatever, I

1624
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 1: shut down. I shut down when it's on my coverage,

1625
01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 1: I go, wait, I forgot when I'm I forgot how

1626
01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:00,640
Speaker 1: to behave Um, So I don't think so many of

1627
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:05,720
Speaker 1: my performance and girls, you were great on it. You

1628
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 1: were so going on that and also the show because

1629
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:10,800
Speaker 1: we would you kind of breeze pass it in the

1630
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 1: beginning because like it's me now, I know you're like

1631
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:18,559
Speaker 1: insecure about it. The show is so I have not

1632
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 1: watched it, but yes, okay, I will put it. It's

1633
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:23,519
Speaker 1: called Girls five ev It's on Peacock. It's about a

1634
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:26,360
Speaker 1: group of women in their forties who there there there

1635
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:29,040
Speaker 1: used to be a pop group and then and then

1636
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:31,160
Speaker 1: they were in the nineties and like a rapper samples

1637
01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:33,280
Speaker 1: one of their their one hit song and so it

1638
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:35,719
Speaker 1: gets famous, and so they try to mount a comeback,

1639
01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:38,479
Speaker 1: and it's so funny. It's like Tina Fey and Robert

1640
01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 1: Carlac executive Meredith Knats a creator are good dear friend,

1641
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 1: Matt Whittaker and Anna Dressing and they wrote for it.

1642
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:50,080
Speaker 1: And I will say this, the cast is unbelievable. I

1643
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:54,320
Speaker 1: love I love everyone, Renee Lease Goldsberry. I have to.

1644
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:56,800
Speaker 1: I have to give it all the way up because

1645
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 1: it's like it's like it's like Jane Kurkowski on thirty Raw,

1646
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:03,320
Speaker 1: but a pop star diva version of it, but the

1647
01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 1: grounded and developed in a very good way and with

1648
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:08,760
Speaker 1: with the character and like I gotta say, just like

1649
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 1: being in the room and just watching her give certain

1650
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:12,640
Speaker 1: line means I was like and then just everybody at

1651
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:15,559
Speaker 1: a village sorry again talking shop, everyone at village just

1652
01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 1: quietly laughing. I was like, this is like she should

1653
01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:22,280
Speaker 1: have been doing this for years. For years, she nailed

1654
01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:23,760
Speaker 1: it and there's nothing she can't do, you know. She

1655
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 1: started in soaps, and I actually knew her because I

1656
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:28,799
Speaker 1: was like the little faggot because that was like watching

1657
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:30,439
Speaker 1: all my children with my mother, and so I used

1658
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:32,880
Speaker 1: to watch the daytime Emmy's and one year on the

1659
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:35,559
Speaker 1: Daytime Emmys, they brought out like, here are the soap

1660
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:37,960
Speaker 1: stars that you didn't know could sing, and one of

1661
01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:40,200
Speaker 1: them was Renee at Last Goldsberry and her voice was

1662
01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:43,320
Speaker 1: so beautiful I never forgot it. So then years decades later,

1663
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:46,360
Speaker 1: when she was in Hamilton's being in jenicas Adelica s Guyler,

1664
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I remember her from

1665
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:51,760
Speaker 1: Sucking One Life to Live. Yeah, we made costumes. We

1666
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:54,960
Speaker 1: made costumes for her for Color Purple on Broadway the

1667
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:58,840
Speaker 1: first time because because I worked at a Broadway costume house.

1668
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:01,400
Speaker 1: So yeah, that was that. That's where I first was

1669
01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:04,720
Speaker 1: introduced to a beautiful girl. She is stunning and she

1670
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:08,200
Speaker 1: is she looks amazing and there's she she I'm telling you,

1671
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 1: she know so much of this comedy. I I could

1672
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:12,479
Speaker 1: do the thing where I say some of the jokes,

1673
01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:14,559
Speaker 1: but I won't ruin it for anyone that's listening, like,

1674
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 1: because it's just these jokes are so good and you

1675
01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:20,680
Speaker 1: forget how much you miss jokes. I miss jokes and

1676
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:23,280
Speaker 1: comedy shows like. It's fine that people are like, I

1677
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:26,160
Speaker 1: like this sweet show, I like told a fun story.

1678
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:29,240
Speaker 1: I miss jokes. I want jokes. This show gives you jokes.

1679
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:32,040
Speaker 1: Um love it, love it, love it, love it. And

1680
01:17:32,040 --> 01:17:34,760
Speaker 1: also the other women are amazing. To Sarah Brella's incredible

1681
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:37,960
Speaker 1: Busy Phillips, we love you, Busy. You gotta come on,

1682
01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:41,400
Speaker 1: Paula Pell, You're a fucking icon. I mean, like, it's just,

1683
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 1: oh my god. Anyway, and you were and you were great.

1684
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:48,240
Speaker 1: My sister was the whole guest star of episode six

1685
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:51,920
Speaker 1: and you were stunning. Bitch, you were fab and you're

1686
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:54,120
Speaker 1: very talented young girl, and you have a big future,

1687
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 1: a big future. Thank you. Thank you for your consideration.

1688
01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 1: Best supporting actor in a comedy series, Boon Yang. Yes, perfect,

1689
01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:06,680
Speaker 1: Now for your conservation and so so now is that

1690
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:09,080
Speaker 1: do we have something? Bianca? Yeah, I think I can

1691
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 1: go with this. I'll try because I really haven't been

1692
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:14,400
Speaker 1: mad at anything at the moment. But yeah, okay, This

1693
01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 1: is Bianca del Rio's I don't think so, honey, her sides. Now,

1694
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:20,200
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. This whole thing with the

1695
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:22,639
Speaker 1: fucking Kardashians, I'm done with them. First of all forty

1696
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 1: two seasons, this useless family that's taking all this goddamn money.

1697
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:28,280
Speaker 1: The bottom line is that this girl goes and fox

1698
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:30,000
Speaker 1: this guy in a sex tape, and all of a sudden,

1699
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:33,000
Speaker 1: before that she was actually doing closets for Paris Hilton.

1700
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:35,160
Speaker 1: She makes a fucking sex tape, she becomes a star.

1701
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:37,160
Speaker 1: You don't have any fucking sex tapes I've made, and

1702
01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 1: I'm doing this shitty fucking podcast with you. Do you

1703
01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:41,320
Speaker 1: understand how fun that that is? Do you know how

1704
01:18:41,320 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 1: about I've had to take for this situation, Not to mention,

1705
01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:46,840
Speaker 1: she gets the whole family involved, and now once a supermodel,

1706
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 1: one's a guru on a book about losing weight when

1707
01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:51,760
Speaker 1: everything is fucking plastic. I don't understand this anymore. This

1708
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:54,760
Speaker 1: is where the whole family looks like drag queens with

1709
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:57,599
Speaker 1: lots of money. I don't understand it. But they've become

1710
01:18:57,640 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 1: the voice of reason. See, I don't think so, honey.

1711
01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:01,320
Speaker 1: The problem is now they're having children that are on

1712
01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 1: top of this, the children would benefit from this bullshit.

1713
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:05,680
Speaker 1: None of them really have any talent other than sucking dick,

1714
01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:07,599
Speaker 1: and they've shown that to us in the videos that exist.

1715
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 1: But I don't understand the insanity and the infastuation with it. Now.

1716
01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:12,760
Speaker 1: I don't particularly like them, but I don't spend my

1717
01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 1: time going online complaining about them like everybody else does.

1718
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:16,880
Speaker 1: But I also don't want to praise them either, because

1719
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:18,880
Speaker 1: they're useless sucking horse. Those are the people that you

1720
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:21,320
Speaker 1: would see in a clinic and not my style. That's

1721
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:24,639
Speaker 1: that's one minute. That isause I don't think so many

1722
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:28,200
Speaker 1: you know what, it's actually a rule of culture number fourteen.

1723
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:35,120
Speaker 1: Actually before that she was doing. It's true though, and

1724
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 1: it's just it blows my mind that when people go

1725
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 1: like if I say they have no talent, people up,

1726
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:41,880
Speaker 1: they're rich. I go, well, I'm not denying their success.

1727
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:44,880
Speaker 1: Lots of people are successful and can be completely fucking useless.

1728
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 1: Look at Roquel Welch. But in the end, you like

1729
01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:51,960
Speaker 1: this bitch, that's a RuPaul reference. That's like way google Roquell. Well,

1730
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:54,840
Speaker 1: but you're safe for us. But it's that kind of

1731
01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:57,920
Speaker 1: a thing where everybody's like, but she's pretty sure. I'm

1732
01:19:57,920 --> 01:19:59,800
Speaker 1: not saying she's an ugly bitch and with her money,

1733
01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:02,000
Speaker 1: she's should look that good. But in the end, I

1734
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 1: don't find that validity or worth or any to give

1735
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:08,280
Speaker 1: me talent. I'd rather be there talent. They're not talented.

1736
01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:11,640
Speaker 1: It's it's it's like Bethany Frankel effective not talented. And

1737
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:15,000
Speaker 1: how many shows is she gonna get every fucking day

1738
01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:17,599
Speaker 1: new show? Is she the only white bitch that exists? Like?

1739
01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 1: What is going on here? She had a show Bravo.

1740
01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:23,760
Speaker 1: I'm just I don't get it, because there's so many

1741
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 1: talented people that could be in that position, you know.

1742
01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:30,920
Speaker 1: But and we now are dealing with the fact that,

1743
01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:34,400
Speaker 1: you know, Caitlyn Jenner is running I will say it again,

1744
01:20:34,479 --> 01:20:38,080
Speaker 1: she's running for governor. You should have seen her on

1745
01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:40,160
Speaker 1: not that I watched this, but I watched it on

1746
01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:42,479
Speaker 1: the Young Turks, like they showed some clips of Caitlin

1747
01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:46,400
Speaker 1: Genner on Hannity, and so it was so it was

1748
01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:49,880
Speaker 1: so just the first thought, dumb thing you think she's

1749
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 1: gonna say, which is, why do we need a harsh

1750
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:54,720
Speaker 1: speed rare we need or where everyone get on a

1751
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:59,120
Speaker 1: plane like it's like you're a fucking eight out of touch,

1752
01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 1: out of touch, and it's fascinating that it's fascinating that

1753
01:21:02,320 --> 01:21:04,040
Speaker 1: this is even a topic. And if you say anything,

1754
01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:05,880
Speaker 1: someone's like, well, you can't say anything. No, you can.

1755
01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:08,639
Speaker 1: You can say I always say people like it doesn't

1756
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:10,680
Speaker 1: affect me if you have a problem with me. But

1757
01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 1: if it's a political figure or someone that you're supposed

1758
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:15,400
Speaker 1: to vote for, if this is a person you know

1759
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:17,959
Speaker 1: on a pedestal, yeah, it's gonna be a bit difficult.

1760
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:19,720
Speaker 1: And with someone like that, you're running from governor, for

1761
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:21,920
Speaker 1: Christ's sake. What the fuck? I was I was talking

1762
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:23,839
Speaker 1: to my friend today, I mean, don't you bring back Madonna?

1763
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:27,000
Speaker 1: But like he was bringing up how recently someone asked

1764
01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:30,559
Speaker 1: Miley Cyrus about what she thought about what Madonna said about,

1765
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:32,200
Speaker 1: you know, when she was in the tub, being like

1766
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:35,599
Speaker 1: COVID's the great equalizer, Miley, do you agree? And then

1767
01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:37,840
Speaker 1: Miley is like, of course whatever, like no, it's not

1768
01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:39,600
Speaker 1: because some people have it worth. But then like my

1769
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 1: friend was like, why does that? Why do we care?

1770
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:44,120
Speaker 1: What like Miley and we love Miley Madonna, But it's like,

1771
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:46,639
Speaker 1: but why are they supposed to like be the voice

1772
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:50,400
Speaker 1: of reason, yeah, exactly, or just like just give out

1773
01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:54,080
Speaker 1: some like bit of like social commentary when it's like

1774
01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:56,920
Speaker 1: they're not empower it's like there are there are people

1775
01:21:56,960 --> 01:22:00,360
Speaker 1: who are like vying for it, like let's say Caitlin General,

1776
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:03,280
Speaker 1: Like we should probably examine what they're saying in a

1777
01:22:03,320 --> 01:22:05,800
Speaker 1: way that is like that should be examined and not

1778
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:08,800
Speaker 1: like taking cover behind some identity politic thing of like

1779
01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:12,719
Speaker 1: well she's trans. It's like that she's a rich white

1780
01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:16,320
Speaker 1: woman who is a narcissist and who only cares about

1781
01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:20,960
Speaker 1: herself and her money. That's that's just that's the bottom line.

1782
01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:22,760
Speaker 1: Like well, don't you saw the whole joke, which was

1783
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:24,559
Speaker 1: like you know that they said that the trans youth

1784
01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:28,280
Speaker 1: shouldn't be in the specific you know games, so they

1785
01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:32,760
Speaker 1: couldn't have other trans people. But yeah, she performs in

1786
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:35,639
Speaker 1: golf tournaments and she It's like, well, that's the typical

1787
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:39,720
Speaker 1: Republican double standard. But you're she competes against women, girl, girl,

1788
01:22:40,040 --> 01:22:44,240
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, no, no, no, hot box

1789
01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:47,800
Speaker 1: of Christmas ship. That's what that is. It's just the

1790
01:22:47,840 --> 01:22:49,800
Speaker 1: fact that we're even discussing it just makes you go

1791
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:53,280
Speaker 1: after we had Trump, We're going down this path another

1792
01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:57,360
Speaker 1: reality stock girl by girl. No you say it can't

1793
01:22:57,400 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 1: get worse, and no, I can't this. I hope this

1794
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:05,320
Speaker 1: runoff thing um with Javin Newsom doesn't. It's like, I mean, Matt,

1795
01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:08,680
Speaker 1: you brought it up that it might actually pay, It

1796
01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:12,680
Speaker 1: might actually create some opportunity for Caitlin Well, because this

1797
01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:15,080
Speaker 1: is the really all it really comes down to is

1798
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:16,760
Speaker 1: what it always comes down to, is just us that

1799
01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 1: if it does. If this is the case, then people

1800
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:20,559
Speaker 1: just need to go out there and vote, And if

1801
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:22,760
Speaker 1: people go out there and vote, then the numbers won't lie.

1802
01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 1: More people are there's just a lot more Democrats in

1803
01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:29,280
Speaker 1: California than there are Republicans. I guess. I just hope

1804
01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:32,360
Speaker 1: that people that are critical of of Newsom, which you know,

1805
01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:34,640
Speaker 1: there are many reasons to be many valid reasons to

1806
01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:36,600
Speaker 1: be critical of Gavin Newsom. You know, it could be

1807
01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:39,040
Speaker 1: much much worse, and I hope that people that are

1808
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:42,439
Speaker 1: critical of him just understand that, Um, you know, we

1809
01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:44,600
Speaker 1: could get ourselves into a very bad situation if we

1810
01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:47,400
Speaker 1: sucked this up. So that's that's that's all, without a doubt,

1811
01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:52,240
Speaker 1: without a doubt. Um, but Jesus Christ, I mean this episode, Bow,

1812
01:23:52,760 --> 01:23:56,599
Speaker 1: what a fantastic episode. How who who are the lucky

1813
01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:59,640
Speaker 1: Fucker's it's us, It's rolling through. It was like a

1814
01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 1: Jerry was telethon. It was three hours of seven minute

1815
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:05,920
Speaker 1: Well that's another reference. That's for older people. You know

1816
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:09,280
Speaker 1: you're safe with us. Yeah, you're safe with us. We're French,

1817
01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:13,800
Speaker 1: we were French. We love Jerry Lewis, um we um.

1818
01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:17,400
Speaker 1: Were so flattered and honored to have you talked to.

1819
01:24:18,160 --> 01:24:20,120
Speaker 1: Thank you for having me. And I'm excited because we'll

1820
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:23,920
Speaker 1: be doing something soon for the White which is happening soon. Yeah,

1821
01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:27,040
Speaker 1: so I'm excited. They have me doing this like pressing

1822
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:29,760
Speaker 1: in the Chelsea Pere. They have me like we're shooting something. Okay,

1823
01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:33,000
Speaker 1: they're calling me. I'm not doing any of that. That's

1824
01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:35,120
Speaker 1: what you gotta do, bo. Whenever you're complaining, let me tire.

1825
01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:36,760
Speaker 1: You're gonna take a page from younger. Just don't answer

1826
01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:39,920
Speaker 1: the phone. Yeah no, I didn't get that offer. I

1827
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:42,640
Speaker 1: think I've just said two episodes, so I I know

1828
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:44,559
Speaker 1: they've got some stuff work that. I'm not sure what

1829
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:46,759
Speaker 1: it is. I think it's all virtual that I'm doing. Um,

1830
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:48,880
Speaker 1: but I'm excited to for the best. Yeah, because I

1831
01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 1: love for Alan so much. Yeah, oh my god, Alan

1832
01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:55,320
Speaker 1: Cumming directed it. I mean you and I. You and

1833
01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:57,519
Speaker 1: I had some like really we had to like they

1834
01:24:57,560 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 1: had You and I acted opposite each other because like

1835
01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:02,080
Speaker 1: we had to sort of create this chemistry because we

1836
01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:04,320
Speaker 1: were because our characters are friends and I. I've listened

1837
01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 1: to some episodes really really fun, really fun. Excited. I

1838
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:10,439
Speaker 1: haven't heard anything yet. I'm excited. Yeah, that's good. It's

1839
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:11,760
Speaker 1: gonna be good. It's gonna be a good time, but

1840
01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:14,600
Speaker 1: most fun to listen to the Bianca del Rio podcast

1841
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:17,880
Speaker 1: on Starburns New episodes Thursdays. Yes, every Thursday, I have

1842
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:19,719
Speaker 1: a new episode and and in the next two weeks,

1843
01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:22,120
Speaker 1: I've got some good announcements coming up. So so stay tuned.

1844
01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:26,080
Speaker 1: That that's my exclusive preview of preview preview. Yeah, it's

1845
01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:28,880
Speaker 1: my pre come. Yeah, it's coming. And we love the

1846
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:31,240
Speaker 1: taste of that, don't you all Right? Well, thank you

1847
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:34,719
Speaker 1: so so much for coming here and doing this, and bowen.

1848
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:37,360
Speaker 1: As always, we end with a song, don't we king

1849
01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:52,120
Speaker 1: we do nice to say that the best RUS song,

1850
01:25:53,080 --> 01:25:55,160
Speaker 1: I say it's the best other than Supermodel. I would

1851
01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:58,760
Speaker 1: have to agree that those other champion anthem fuck a

1852
01:25:58,760 --> 01:26:01,040
Speaker 1: reason between now I don't care about, but the best

1853
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:04,519
Speaker 1: drag race era yes I was, of course, No, the

1854
01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:07,360
Speaker 1: best one is if I dream. Just kidding, all right,

1855
01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:09,599
Speaker 1: thank you