Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the C and B twenty
Speaker 1: four to seven podcast. Here are your co hosts, Clay
Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton. Welcome in Tuesday edition. Clay Travis,
Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with
Speaker 1: us as we are rolling through the program. A ton
Speaker 1: of different news stories out there, the big beautiful Bill
Speaker 1: Trump on Capitol Hill. We will talk with White House
Speaker 1: official James Blair at two thirty that is the third
Speaker 1: hour eastern of this program to get the absolute latest there.
Speaker 1: James Comey went on MSNBC to talk about his Seashells
Speaker 1: by the Seashore original sin the book is out. And
Speaker 1: then a couple of crazy stories that we may have
Speaker 1: some fun with during the course of the program. Robert Griffin, iid, Buck,
Speaker 1: you saw this story and you were like this and
Speaker 1: this can't be real. Is in a feud with a
Speaker 1: guy named Ryan Clark Caitlin Clark and they have had
Speaker 1: wife attacks. Now anyway, this is crazy. Also, I don't
Speaker 1: know if you saw this. This is not super serious,
Speaker 1: but is a little bit crazy. Bill Belichick and his
Speaker 1: twenty four year old girlfriend are reportedly engaged. Buck so
Speaker 1: true love as Spring flowers bloom may well be a
Speaker 1: foot in the great state of North Carolina with Bill
Speaker 1: Belichick as the head coach of the tar Heels. Some
Speaker 1: ladies like granddad Bob, What can I tell you, seventy
Speaker 1: two year old Belichick, twenty four year old Jordan Hudson.
Speaker 1: The heart wants what the heart wants, Buck. But we begin,
Speaker 1: We begin with the big beautiful bill. Trump is up
Speaker 1: on Capitol Hill. Here is my prediction before we go
Speaker 1: through all this different audio. The bill's going to pass.
Speaker 1: This reminds me a bit of the speaker count votes
Speaker 1: every time. Else eventually there is going to be a speaker,
Speaker 1: and it reminds me of the debt ceiling. Oh my goodness,
Speaker 1: what's going to happen. The government's going to shut down?
Speaker 1: Oh oh no, And then the debt ceiling gets resolved.
Speaker 1: Nothing ever really changes. It's all posturing and negotiation. So
Speaker 1: that is my prediction of where we are, where we
Speaker 1: are headed. But let's listen to what Trump said this
Speaker 1: morning on Capitol Hill before the meeting.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: He said, this is a big, beautiful bill and we're
Speaker 1: going to get it done because it has tremendous tax
Speaker 1: cuts cut one well, that's not a question of.
Speaker 3: Hold us fare.
Speaker 4: A tremendously unified party. I don't think we've ever had
Speaker 4: a party like this. There's some people that want a
Speaker 4: couple of things that.
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't like or that they're not going to get.
Speaker 4: But I think we're going to have tremendous not in luck.
Speaker 4: We have tremendous talent. This man has done an incredible
Speaker 4: job of speaking. So I think we're going to I
Speaker 4: think we're a very unified party. The Senate's doing great.
Speaker 4: John Thune is doing fantastically. He's a great guy. And
Speaker 4: we're gonna have a bill, the one big beautiful bill.
Speaker 4: I think it's going to be the biggest bill ever passed,
Speaker 4: and we got to get it done. Tremendous tax cuts
Speaker 4: for people, tremendous incentives, tremendous regulation cuts, so all these
Speaker 4: regulations that are so horrible.
Speaker 1: Okay, so that was before the meeting. Speaker Johnson after
Speaker 1: the meeting, and then I'll play some Trump. Here's Speaker
Speaker 1: Johnson after the meeting of what happens if they don't
Speaker 1: pass this bill.
Speaker 5: So they love this president of people back home love
Speaker 5: what he's doing. It's historic, and everybody understands the scope
Speaker 5: and the meaning of this. If we do not accomplish
Speaker 5: this mission, every one of you, all the American people,
Speaker 5: are gonna have the highest tax increase that you've ever had.
Speaker 5: And among the debt stealing clip that's approaching and all
Speaker 5: the other problems, this is the bill to do it.
Speaker 5: I think we're gonna get dumb as president.
Speaker 1: Okay, and then Trump after the meeting, one more cut
Speaker 1: five and then Buck, you can weigh in on all
Speaker 1: the drama on Capitol. How big it is, how beautiful
Speaker 1: it is, so beautiful, I can't stop looking at it.
Speaker 1: Trump says it was a meeting of love.
Speaker 3: That was a meeting of love. Let me tell you
Speaker 3: that was love in that room.
Speaker 1: There was no shouting there.
Speaker 3: I think it was a meeting of love.
Speaker 4: There were a couple of things that we talked about,
Speaker 4: specifically where some people felt a little bit one way
Speaker 4: or the other not a big deal, and I covered
Speaker 4: them and wasn't so much a speech.
Speaker 3: I covered certain points, and I think it was. I'd
Speaker 3: be very surprised.
Speaker 4: No, I didn't tell who told you? I said, I'm
Speaker 4: losing inside room. But get somebody ready in question, who's
Speaker 4: told you that people inside the room totally.
Speaker 3: I never used the term.
Speaker 4: I didn't stay losing.
Speaker 1: I didn't even talk about it. In fact, it's the opposite.
Speaker 3: I think we're getting into that.
Speaker 1: I'm not losing patients, we're ahead of schedule. Anybody that
Speaker 1: told you that it's a liar.
Speaker 3: I never.
Speaker 4: Mentioned that we're losing patients because I'm not losing we're
Speaker 4: ahead of such. But why didn't you go back to
Speaker 4: your source and tell them they're liars? If the source
Speaker 4: even existed?
Speaker 1: All right, so there is Trump getting into it with
Speaker 1: a reporter, Capitol Hill buck your take on all this, well,
Speaker 1: one thing. I'll get into the substance of the bill
Speaker 1: in just a second. I just when I hear Trump
Speaker 1: with the reporters, I do think you know you and
Speaker 1: I we know Don Junior and Avanka. Could you imagine
Speaker 1: Trumps your dad like trying to tell him why you
Speaker 1: broke curfew or something like excuse me, excuse like just
Speaker 1: he's very tough to argumber. Remember when we had Junior
Speaker 1: on at the RNC, if I remember correctly, and he
Speaker 1: had gotten permission to have a few people over and
Speaker 1: just got home and there were, like he said, one
Speaker 1: hundred people at the house and he was just like,
Speaker 1: all of them have to be gone. Can you imagine
Speaker 1: being at that party of the high school kid. Trump
Speaker 1: walks in and he's like, you're all gone, Like he's
Speaker 1: not the dad, He's not the dad that you wanted
Speaker 1: to be rolling kegs in when he wasn't looking. I've
Speaker 1: just thrown that out there, Like I can tell you know,
Speaker 1: I met him when I was thirteen or fourteen for
Speaker 1: the first time, and uh yeah, he was. Nobody was
Speaker 1: messing with him then and nobody's messing with him now. Okay,
Speaker 1: the big beautiful bill, it's huge, it's beautiful's get into it.
Speaker 1: The biggest thing in this Clay and you know I
Speaker 1: spoke to and you can check it out. It's on
Speaker 1: the Clay and Buck podcast network. In the Buck Brief,
Speaker 1: I spoke to the head of the National Economic Council
Speaker 1: and I just said, my friend, you are respectfully he's
Speaker 1: a PhD from Harvard in economics, and I said, you
Speaker 1: are an econ guy. I didn't want to say nerd,
Speaker 1: but I mean, I think econ Nerd would be respectfully
Speaker 1: said here, I said, take me through the whole thing.
Speaker 1: And so we just sat there and I went through it.
Speaker 1: I'll give you some of the highlights of it, and
Speaker 1: what is in this that really matters to people and
Speaker 1: why Trump is so excited about it. The first thing
Speaker 1: is it's one of those if you don't do it,
Speaker 1: really bad things are going to happen, meaning the tax
Speaker 1: raises that would kick in, because the twenty seventeen Trump
Speaker 1: tax cuts are made permanent here, so I know it's confusing,
Speaker 1: but if the stuff, if you don't do this, they
Speaker 1: would expire and you would go back to much higher
Speaker 1: tax rates. So that would be a shock to the
Speaker 1: system in a bad way. Right, that's one part of it.
Speaker 1: You're extending tax cuts. You're extending tax cuts really across
Speaker 1: a whole range, whether it's for businesses, for individual filers,
Speaker 1: and the average American family on an annual basis. And
Speaker 1: again this is from the Chairman of the National Economic Council,
Speaker 1: and I said, let's nerd out, buddy. Let's go. It's
Speaker 1: something like seven to twelve thousand dollars of additional money
Speaker 1: in the bank for you at the end of the
Speaker 1: year for the average American household. Okay, that's not I
Speaker 1: think that's such an important because of say it's for
Speaker 1: the rich. It's for the billionaires. The Democrats, who rely
Speaker 1: on their plurality of billionaires to fund their party, are
Speaker 1: always so upset about billionaires. Right, This has nothing to
Speaker 1: do with the billionaires. This is about the average American household.
Speaker 1: And you're gonna have think about that. If someone told you, hey,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have an extra ten grand next year at
Speaker 1: the end of the year, you'd say, wow, that's that's great. Well,
Speaker 1: that's what this does for the average household. So I
Speaker 1: think that's really it's Also there's the salt deduction component
Speaker 1: of this, so there's the cap for this is going
Speaker 1: to be changed. They're going to deduct more of the
Speaker 1: regional taxes from the federal tax bill. That's actually good
Speaker 1: for blue states. And I think that's probably for some
Speaker 1: blue state Republicans or purple state Republicans something they're happy
Speaker 1: to see. The big one. Clay and I said, Wow,
Speaker 1: they're actually doing this no tax on tips. That that
Speaker 1: is a real thing. Remember that was so popular and
Speaker 1: cool when Trump said it on the campaign trail that
Speaker 1: Kamala for whatever campaign she was running, she was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think we should have no tax. She just blatantly
Speaker 1: copied it. It was totally lifted it. Yeah, totally lifted it.
Speaker 1: She was plagiarizing Trump. One thing that I'm going to
Speaker 1: say people on the right are annoyed about is the
Speaker 1: green energy tax credits part of this. The bill's initial
Speaker 1: tax eliminates tax credits for electric vehicles within two years,
Speaker 1: phases out credits for low carbon electricity, including wind and solar.
Speaker 1: New requirements on these credits, but doesn't totally zero. And
Speaker 1: there are people that are I'm just gonna tell you
Speaker 1: what's getting criticized. They're criticizing this for not getting like
Speaker 1: there should be the whole Green New Deal scam. Stuff
Speaker 1: should all be completely root and branch taken out. Some
Speaker 1: Republicans are saying, okay, we had Ron Johnson on yesterday
Speaker 1: talk a bit about this. They tighten up snap Benefits,
Speaker 1: which is food stamps. I guess we don't like to
Speaker 1: call it food stamps anymore. They're tightening that up so
Speaker 1: they think there'll be some savings. They're limiting funding for
Speaker 1: the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, which had been Elizabeth Warren's
Speaker 1: little fiefdom that didn't actually help consumers but was a
Speaker 1: good way to harass disfavored businesses by Democrats, increases the
Speaker 1: debt limit for trillion dollars, and then some substantial funding
Speaker 1: boost for Pentagon priorities and deportation. So Clay, I think
Speaker 1: those are the big top lines of where where this
Speaker 1: thing is, where this thing stands, And the biggest critic
Speaker 1: is it's over a thousand pages, eleven hundred pages. Just
Speaker 1: remember that when somebody's like, i've read the bill, you
Speaker 1: have really yeah you know, yeah, uh, they've read the
Speaker 1: section of the bill that their lobbyists one and included.
Speaker 1: I'm sure, but this is on eleven hundred pages. And
Speaker 1: the part of it that I think people on the right,
Speaker 1: conservatives are a little frustrated on is just that it's
Speaker 1: extending the debts, sealing four trillion dollars and doesn't really
Speaker 1: have the big meaty cuts that from dose you would
Speaker 1: have liked to see. That's the part of it. That's
Speaker 1: but if you're talking about if you're talking about juicing
Speaker 1: the economy, I mean, this thing I think is going
Speaker 1: to be rocket fuel for the economy. So that's why
Speaker 1: Trump's so excited about it. Look, it's it's not a
Speaker 1: perfect bill, and the big issue, which if you're around
Speaker 1: our age, meaning if you're forties or younger, that you're
Speaker 1: going to have to deal with over the next two
Speaker 1: generations is the national debts out of control. And the
Speaker 1: only real way We've told you this before, the only
Speaker 1: real way to fix the national debt is to address
Speaker 1: social security and Medicare. And if you look, I believe
Speaker 1: social Security, Medicare, defense, and the interest. I believe that's
Speaker 1: eighty six percent of the entire federal budget. I think
Speaker 1: that's the number. So even if you eliminated every other
Speaker 1: part of the federal government, eighty six percent of it
Speaker 1: would still exist just based on those four things. And unfortunately,
Speaker 1: as our debt grows, the percentage of interest that we
Speaker 1: have to pay on that debt grows massively such that
Speaker 1: we now pay more typically unfortunately now for the debt
Speaker 1: than we do national defense. And there is an argument
Speaker 1: that if you look at history, as soon as the
Speaker 1: debt expenditures exceed the defense eres your country, your civilization
Speaker 1: has begun a decline. So wah first segment on Tuesday,
Speaker 1: No one in the Democrat Party, no one in the
Speaker 1: Republican Party, really wants to address social security and Medicare,
Speaker 1: and until those issues are addressed, then there is virtually
Speaker 1: no opportunity to balance a budget. That's the reality. Now.
Speaker 1: I agree with Ron Johnson when he says, like, hey,
Speaker 1: we should be going back to pre COVID baseline expenditures.
Speaker 1: That's way better. That's the better solution here in my mind,
Speaker 1: because we basically have embedded the cost of a growing
Speaker 1: government from COVID and we're continuing. And by the way,
Speaker 1: when you have twenty one percent inflation, your expenses are
Speaker 1: going to go up substantially just to keep pace with
Speaker 1: the cost of goods. But this is the reality in
Speaker 1: which we live. There's also on the good side of things.
Speaker 1: So I can give you the quick negative overview, not
Speaker 1: of the bill, but just of the US fiscal trajectory is, uh,
Speaker 1: we are not stopping this train at all, really, and
Speaker 1: the next I think four years on the train are
Speaker 1: gonna be awesome. So there's that, right, I think. I
Speaker 1: think the Trump administration, you're gonna see everyone's gonna be
Speaker 1: doing great, and that's fantastic, and you know, that's nothing
Speaker 1: to sneeze at. But the other side of it is,
Speaker 1: we haven't we haven't suffered enough as a country from
Speaker 1: the overspending. When we've suffered enough, people will want to
Speaker 1: do something about it, and we this is I almost
Speaker 1: think it's a waste of time to get into beyond
Speaker 1: that right now, Clay, because every time we could say
Speaker 1: we're spending too much money, look at the math, you
Speaker 1: can just line up. We'll just get calls all day
Speaker 1: from everyone saying you absolutely cannot touch my medicare. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's where we are, and that's what Trump is said.
Speaker 1: You can't trust if you can't touch Medicare, Social Security, Medicaid. Basically,
Speaker 1: there's nothing to talk about people. So we haven't suffered
Speaker 1: enough as a country from the fiscal profligacy, and that
Speaker 1: means that we just got to keep going and keep
Speaker 1: on hoping that we grow and grow and grow this economy.
Speaker 1: We got hundreds of billions coming in from the tariffs,
Speaker 1: by the way, which you're hearing. You're not getting a
Speaker 1: lot of conversation about that right now in the media
Speaker 1: because the tariffs are going to bring in additional revenue
Speaker 1: to the government. Remember, we used to fund until the
Speaker 1: twentieth century, we funded this country's government on tariffs overwhelmingly.
Speaker 1: I mean, that was that was the primary source so
Speaker 1: it is a thing. But yeah, hopefully we can grow
Speaker 1: grow the economy much faster and find, you know, greater
Speaker 1: efficiencies that we'll be able to kind of keep riding
Speaker 1: this thing out. But yeah, I'm with you, it's not
Speaker 1: even worth the debt bomb. The debt bomb is ticking,
Speaker 1: nobody wants to fix it, so why whine about it.
Speaker 1: Trump is doing the best thing he can do for
Speaker 1: the economy this year, and hopefully that means we lead
Speaker 1: into better things than the years after it. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that's kind of where I am on this. It's also
Speaker 1: like having the debt ceiling fight. No, it's not even
Speaker 1: fun to talk about it anymore because they're just going
Speaker 1: to raise the debt ceiling if I'm wrong, let me know,
Speaker 1: trying to stir the pot a little bit. Eight hundred
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Speaker 1: all across this great land. It was quite a post
Speaker 1: on X from Aleena Haba, the interim US Attorney for
Speaker 1: New Jersey. She wrote on her X account that Congresswoman
Speaker 1: Lamonica mick Iver had been charged for assaulting, impeding, and
Speaker 1: interfering with law enforcement when she visited the detention center
Speaker 1: a couple other members of Congress back on the ninth
Speaker 1: of May in New Jersey, and then put out a
Speaker 1: statement from her office Clay, no one is above the law,
Speaker 1: politics or otherwise. It is the job of this office
Speaker 1: to uphold justice, impartially regardless of who you are. Now
Speaker 1: we will let the justice system work. She had sought
Speaker 1: a resolution without bringing criminal charges, according to The New
Speaker 1: York Times, but miss McIver declined. She says, now, this
Speaker 1: is Congresswoman mick Iver, that the ICE agents created an
Speaker 1: unnecessary and unsafe confrontation. These charges are entirely political. Of
Speaker 1: course we knew she was going to say that. But
Speaker 1: you can see body camera footage released by the Department
Speaker 1: of Homeland Security shows Representative McIver getting into it, Clay
Speaker 1: tussling with members of Immigration and Customs Enforcement. One might
Speaker 1: even say Clay obstructing, perhaps obstructing an official proceed or
Speaker 1: official law enforcement activity, something that all the cops listing know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if they're trying to make an arrest and you're like, no,
Speaker 1: that's my buddy, and you hip check the cops so
Speaker 1: that he can't actually put the cuffs on. You're going
Speaker 1: away too, That's not okay. Now there's a lot. There's
Speaker 1: a lot going on here, Clay. Right, there's the law
Speaker 1: and there's the law and order angle of this. The
Speaker 1: no one is above the law, which Democrats certainly are
Speaker 1: familiar with as a phrase because they used to say
Speaker 1: it with such frequency to justify their absurd prosecutions. Four
Speaker 1: of them one year never been convicted or charged with
Speaker 1: the crime in his entire life, almost eighty years. Trump
Speaker 1: goes without ever committing a crime, and then four in
Speaker 1: one year that also happened to be the same year
Speaker 1: he's running for reelection to be president. Gee, what a coincidence,
Speaker 1: Almost like finding out Biden's cancer after the election that
Speaker 1: they had to know about before. Quite a coincidence. But uh,
Speaker 1: for me, this is they created this environment and I'm
Speaker 1: happy having we can talk without the immigration piece of
Speaker 1: this too, Clay, Like, really, they're they're willing to throw
Speaker 1: their physically throw their bodies in front of ice agents
Speaker 1: to stop deportations from happening. Members of Congress, people that
Speaker 1: write the laws or at least pretend to write the laws.
Speaker 1: But the law is the law. No one is above it.
Speaker 1: Democrats made us all believe, or rather made us all
Speaker 1: hear from them that they believe this, and now they
Speaker 1: have to live with it. And I don't think they're
Speaker 1: going to like the consequences because the Trump administration has decided,
Speaker 1: you know what, we'll take you up on that your
Speaker 1: terms are acceptable. Democrats. I think this was and is
Speaker 1: and this will not surprise you, buck. But what Monica
Speaker 1: mc ivor, the arrested congresswoman, texted, no one is I
Speaker 1: mean tweeted, no one is above the law after Trump
Speaker 1: was arrested. So you know this talking point that they
Speaker 1: all had of no is above the law. Clearly they
Speaker 1: thought they were above the law. But it's not a
Speaker 1: good position to be in when you are arrested to
Speaker 1: have on the record called your political adversaries out as
Speaker 1: being as no one as being above the law. Now
Speaker 1: do I think that this is some massively violent behavior
Speaker 1: that she engaged in. No, But I do think that
Speaker 1: there are countless people who were involved in January sixth
Speaker 1: that engaged in less than what she did on that day,
Speaker 1: that were charged with crimes that were hunted down by
Speaker 1: the FBI that had to plead guilty to minor misdemeanors
Speaker 1: and received massive punishment as a result. So, if you
Speaker 1: put it in that context, what is good for the
Speaker 1: goose is good for the gander, Which is probably a
Speaker 1: phrase that I've never used before in the history of radio,
Speaker 1: but seems apropos here. And I think what it represents
Speaker 1: is there have been a lot of you, and I
Speaker 1: am among them, and Buck is among them that said
Speaker 1: the only real way we can end lawfair in this
Speaker 1: country one Trump winning, I think showed Democrats that their
Speaker 1: idea of putting him in prison for the rest of
Speaker 1: his life and bankrupting him and trying to use the
Speaker 1: full apparatus of the Department of Justice against him as
Speaker 1: well as other state governments in Georgia and New York,
Speaker 1: was not a way that was going to be politically
Speaker 1: beneficial to them, and I think the results of the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four election were wildly important for that reason.
Speaker 1: But the second part of this is they have to
Speaker 1: feel the danger themselves of law fair redounding at them
Speaker 1: as the paying the consequences here, And I'm curious how
Speaker 1: aggressively the Democrat party will come out and defend her
Speaker 1: because I will say this Buck remember the judge in
Speaker 1: Milwaukee that they were saying, oh, like, this is an
Speaker 1: unprecedented act, and then people looked into it, and then
Speaker 1: a grand jury in Milwaukee indicted her. That story's kind
Speaker 1: of vanished. They tried to make a lot of hay
Speaker 1: of that. I don't think that the average person, because
Speaker 1: it's on video, is going to watch this and say, hey,
Speaker 1: you know what, this woman seems like she's being treated unfairly.
Speaker 1: You know who's not going to all of a sudden
Speaker 1: cry big tears for the situation. Tom Holman, I think
Speaker 1: we could just call it. I think if he had
Speaker 1: a nickname, like if this was Professor Wrestling, it would
Speaker 1: be the Enforcer, because I think he is the enforcer
Speaker 1: of immigration law. Here he is saying that she broke
Speaker 1: the law, thiss has cut ten and she's going to
Speaker 1: be held to account.
Speaker 2: You can push back into President Trump's immigration agenda whatever.
Speaker 2: You can protest, but you cannot cross that line. You
Speaker 2: can't annoyingly and impede a law enforced and offical ice officer.
Speaker 1: It's a crime.
Speaker 2: You can't annoyingly concealing harbor and aimlypromise you cannot, you know,
Speaker 2: commit criminal trespass our facilities and the danger our employees,
Speaker 2: and you certainly can't put hands on an ICE agent.
Speaker 2: So you know, she's she's going to have to pay
Speaker 2: the consequences for doing what she did.
Speaker 1: She broke the law, and we're going hold it accountable.
Speaker 1: This is where we have to be reminded that the Democrats,
Speaker 1: despite whatever they may say as a party publicly, and
Speaker 1: I think even that you could argue has trended in
Speaker 1: this direction, but they really don't believe that illegal immigration
Speaker 1: is a crime. They don't believe that it's illegal, and
Speaker 1: so to them, anyone who's being held in a detention
Speaker 1: facility for immigration related issues is essentially a political prisoner,
Speaker 1: and therefore whatever they have to do in order to
Speaker 1: bring attention to or even impede what's going on is
Speaker 1: morally justified. They and this is what what more and
Speaker 1: more Americans figure this out, we have greater clarity on
Speaker 1: this issue, and we can handle this better. The Democrats
Speaker 1: do not believe that anyone should be punished for being
Speaker 1: in the country illegally, and I mean anyone. They fundamentally
Speaker 1: do not believe that if someone is here, it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter if they're a mass murderer on behalf of MS thirteen,
Speaker 1: doesn't matter those crimes. Sometimes Democrats will agree this are bad,
Speaker 1: like the killing of all the people. Okay, they'll say
Speaker 1: that's bad. Fine, But the crime of status in the
Speaker 1: country is not a crime. To them. They do not
Speaker 1: believe that there is any infraction worthy of punishment that
Speaker 1: comes from breaking immigration laws. And that is why you
Speaker 1: have members of Congress who will throw their bodies in
Speaker 1: the way and scream about this, and you know, all
Speaker 1: this mayhem that they will cause around it. It's because fundamentally,
Speaker 1: once you understand their view of it. Yeah, of course,
Speaker 1: like if you and I were sitting here, we're talking
Speaker 1: about people who are being locked up for absolutely no
Speaker 1: reason whatsoever in our minds, as we'd say, well, that's
Speaker 1: a huge problem. We've got to address this. That's what
Speaker 1: they think about illegals. Yeah, and look, I think the
Speaker 1: ultimate question here is why Democrats are still floundering to
Speaker 1: such an extent. They're getting arrested to fight for the
Speaker 1: rights of illegal immigrants. They're getting on airplanes to fly
Speaker 1: to El Salvador to advocate for wife beating human trafficking
Speaker 1: gang members who should never have been in this country.
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of regular, everyday Americans are
Speaker 1: asking the question, why are Democrats willing to fight so
Speaker 1: hard for people who are not citizens of this country
Speaker 1: to continue to be able to illegally break the law here?
Speaker 1: And I also think that a lot of people are
Speaker 1: saying that this is indicative of them picking issues that
Speaker 1: the average American does not agree with. And the only
Speaker 1: reason this makes sense, the only reason this makes sense
Speaker 1: is they have a plan to one day make all
Speaker 1: of these people citizens of the United States and they
Speaker 1: believe it will benefit them that I mean, is there
Speaker 1: any other explanation that remotely makes sense for their behavior
Speaker 1: right now? And let me just point this out. This
Speaker 1: is a black congresswoman from New Jersey, right, this is
Speaker 1: where Lamonica mc iver is from. Do you think the
Speaker 1: average black constituent, because I bet her district is a
Speaker 1: majority black district, that would be my guest. Team. You
Speaker 1: can look that up and I'll correct it. If Lamonica
Speaker 1: mc iver has been representing a largely white area of
Speaker 1: the country, I tend to think that's probably unlikely. Do
Speaker 1: you think black constituents of Lamonica mc iver feel as
Speaker 1: if they are being strongly represented by their congresswoman when
Speaker 1: she is being arrested outside of an ice detention center.
Speaker 1: Is that advocating for their best interest? I think there
Speaker 1: are a lot of black residents. We saw this happen,
Speaker 1: certainly with more black residents in inner city starting to
Speaker 1: vote Trump. We saw this New York City. We saw
Speaker 1: it in many parts of the country, of New York
Speaker 1: City in particular. But buck, remember all the Chicago Inner
Speaker 1: City residents who were saying, wait a minute, you're taking
Speaker 1: over our gyms, our sports bills that our kids are
Speaker 1: supposed to be able to play on, to give benefits
Speaker 1: to illegal filling their kids classrooms with correct kids who
Speaker 1: have a tremendous amount of trauma from the journey, often
Speaker 1: and speak no English, by the way, overwhelmingly, Look, we
Speaker 1: have a limited amount of resources that we have to
Speaker 1: provide support for underprivileged American citizens. And if your community
Speaker 1: is feeling like it's underserved, are you looking over your
Speaker 1: shoulder saying, Hey, these people who've only been here for
Speaker 1: a couple of months. My families have been here for generations,
Speaker 1: for decades, and we're struggling to stay ahead. And you're
Speaker 1: going to give resources to all these illegal immigrants. I mean,
Speaker 1: just honestly, I can't imagine that congress Woman La Monica
Speaker 1: mc ivor that her average constituent says, Hey, this is
Speaker 1: what I want you out fighting for. This is why
Speaker 1: we sent you to Washington, d C. And US hard here.
Speaker 1: The Marxists left in this country. I mean, I repeat myself, right,
Speaker 1: but the the the hard left, the true left in
Speaker 1: America has replaced uh, the you know, the modern Marxists
Speaker 1: have replaced class solidarity with race solidarity, and so the uh,
Speaker 1: the street disruptors, community organizers, social justice brigades, if you will,
Speaker 1: they they now view issues. Remember we talked about this
Speaker 1: even in the contact of Israel Palestine, like what why
Speaker 1: why will you have black members of Congress who are
Speaker 1: over you know, generally speaking, overwhelmingly pro Palestinian. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, make a case if you have solidarity with
Speaker 1: people who have suffered persecution. The Jews have suffered more
Speaker 1: than their share of persecution historically. But why do black
Speaker 1: American congressmen identify with Palestinians Because Palestinians are considered brown,
Speaker 1: even though there are Palestinians and I've met them. Because
Speaker 1: I've been to the West Bank, et cetera, as has
Speaker 1: Clay now who have red or blonde hair and blue eyes.
Speaker 1: That's a whole other thing, okay, And you know, are
Speaker 1: very very much you would think whier Caucasians. But put
Speaker 1: that aside. They think Palestinians are brown. Therefore, black members
Speaker 1: of Congress have a Marxist solidarity, but it's based on
Speaker 1: race with the Palestinians. Same thing with the illegal immigrants.
Speaker 1: At some level, what you're pointing out is what you
Speaker 1: would think Black Democrat members of Congress would focus on
Speaker 1: first and foremost, which is if they are and a
Speaker 1: lot of them are in a predominantly African American Black
Speaker 1: American district. Are illegal immigrants generally making the daily lives
Speaker 1: of Black Americans better in their neighborhoods, in their schools.
Speaker 1: Are they helping the resource allocation that those communities get
Speaker 1: or are they a competition for that? And of course
Speaker 1: we know the answer to this. But for the Cameras,
Speaker 1: racial solidarity with the non white illegal immigrants is where
Speaker 1: the left, the Marxists, the social justice construct in this
Speaker 1: country goes. Here's the breakdown, by the way, forty eight
Speaker 1: and a half percent black district twenty one point four
Speaker 1: percent Hispanic, eighteen point eight percent white. So just shy
Speaker 1: of a majority black district, but a massive, substantial overall
Speaker 1: number of the population is black, and it is a
Speaker 1: overwhelming Democrat district by she won in the last congressional
Speaker 1: race based on what I'm looking to here, eighty one
Speaker 1: point four percent of the vote to fifteen point six
Speaker 1: percent to the Republican representative. So I mean again, we're
Speaker 1: talking about, in my opinion, someone who is not representing
Speaker 1: remotely the majority of the citizens of her district, and
Speaker 1: I would think that would not be favorably received. Maybe
Speaker 1: some of you are out there listening to us right
Speaker 1: now in that New Jersey ten congressional district and want
Speaker 1: two weigh in on whether you think she is representing
Speaker 1: you well. Eight hundred two A two two eight a two. Yeah,
Speaker 1: definitely give us, give us a call. I've been an
Speaker 1: investor in gold for a long time. We're joined now
Speaker 1: by James Blair, White House Deputy Chief of Staff aka
Speaker 1: the Oracle, joining us now. All right, So that's a
Speaker 1: pretty cool nickname, uh, And I imagine that doesn't stink
Speaker 1: to be the White House chief of Staff. Deputy that
Speaker 1: is known as the oracle. So let me ask you
Speaker 1: for your predictions, oracle, on how the Big Beautiful Bill
Speaker 1: is going to go and what should this audience and
Speaker 1: know about it from your perspective.
Speaker 6: Appreciate that going to be with you, guys.
Speaker 3: I think that the Big.
Speaker 6: Beautiful Bill will get out of the House this week.
Speaker 6: I think that obviously, if it gets out of the
Speaker 6: House this week, then it will go over to the Senate.
Speaker 6: They'll work on it for a few weeks, and the
Speaker 6: goal is to get it on the President's text by
Speaker 6: July fourth, which I think will happen. Look, we've got
Speaker 6: to get this done. This bill has so much to love, guys.
Speaker 6: First of all, let's talk about the border first and foremost,
Speaker 6: which nobody's talking about anymore because the President has driven
Speaker 6: illegal border crossings to zero since he came into office.
Speaker 6: But this bill funds border enforcement, adds ten thousand new
Speaker 6: ICE officers, gives them pay raises, gives us everything we
Speaker 6: need logistically to not only keep the border secure for
Speaker 6: the president's entire term.
Speaker 3: In office so we don't have to come back and
Speaker 3: do this.
Speaker 6: Again, but also to deport people and get millions of
Speaker 6: illegal immigrants out of this country, which is thing that
Speaker 6: a majority of the American people support. Secondarily, it gives
Speaker 6: us the funding we need for our military. You know
Speaker 6: that the President is involved in complex negotiations across the
Speaker 6: globe to bring peace that's backed up through strength. And
Speaker 6: it gives us the funding to modernize our military and
Speaker 6: make sure it's the most lethal fighting force in the
Speaker 6: world for the foreseeable future.
Speaker 3: But then the big.
Speaker 6: Thing that it does that everyone's talking about is the
Speaker 6: tax cuts. This renews the President's historic tax cut from
Speaker 6: twenty seventeen that was the biggest in history, and then
Speaker 6: adds more taxes on top everything he campaigned on. No
Speaker 6: tax on tips, no tax on Social Security, no tax
Speaker 6: on overtime pay.
Speaker 3: It will be the.
Speaker 6: Single largest tax cut for middle and working class Americans
Speaker 6: in the history of the country. And it will do
Speaker 6: that while still generating more than a trillion dollars right
Speaker 6: now one point seven trillion dollars in savings for the
Speaker 6: American taxpayer, which is twice as much savings that has
Speaker 6: ever been delivered by Congress in the last thirty years,
Speaker 6: and that was almost thirty years ago under Bill Clinton.
Speaker 6: So we're getting the country's fiscal house in order. We're
Speaker 6: giving people money back in their pocket that they earned.
Speaker 6: We're deregulating, we're unleashing energy, we're securing the border, were
Speaker 6: rebuilding the military. We're doing what President Trump campaigned on,
Speaker 6: plain and simple. So there's still some little issues being
Speaker 6: worked out with a few guys at the edges, but
Speaker 6: in the big picture, I think we're right on track
Speaker 6: and I think we'll get everybody there.
Speaker 1: James, appreciate you being with us, and certainly a lot
Speaker 1: to be excited about that is in this bill. For
Speaker 1: those who are concerned about the debt, who want the
Speaker 1: spirit and action of Doze to be enshrined in some
Speaker 1: way in this bill, what do you say to them
Speaker 1: and what can we point to that deals with getting
Speaker 1: that fiscal house in order, not just for this year
Speaker 1: but in the longer term.
Speaker 6: Yeah, great question. Well, first of all, it's important to
Speaker 6: note that this is by far the biggest savings which
Speaker 6: I mentioned a minute ago. But let's put some points
Speaker 6: on Back in the back when Bill Clinton was president,
Speaker 6: Congress has the package that saved like eight hundred billion
Speaker 6: dollars in spending cuts. Okay, this one's looking like one
Speaker 6: point six one point seven. Currently they'll still be you know,
Speaker 6: iterated on a little bit as it goes through the
Speaker 6: Senate and everything, but more than double. Okay, Congress literally
Speaker 6: has not done anything like that in over thirty years.
Speaker 6: So right there, those are the biggest savings that we've
Speaker 6: ever seen. We're doing something called recisions, which is the
Speaker 6: stuff that dojes found this bad stuff. We go out
Speaker 6: of Congress votes on it, and what's called a recisions
Speaker 6: package that's actually separate from this bill, but then it
Speaker 6: permanently pulls out that stuff out of the budget. Okay,
Speaker 6: there's savings, and then in that and then you know,
Speaker 6: what's not counted in this bill, and it's just a
Speaker 6: stupid quirk of how legislative scoring works is tariff revenue.
Speaker 6: The President is bringing in hundreds of millions of dollars
Speaker 6: of tariff revenue right now, and that money's not being spent. Okay,
Speaker 6: that money's not being spent in the big beautiful bill
Speaker 6: or anything else. That's just money and the treasury that
Speaker 6: goes straight to deficit reduction. So some times, you know,
Speaker 6: when they call it the Congressional Budget Office, which kind
Speaker 6: of puts out the church, they're not being honest because
Speaker 6: they don't add in the tariff for revenue and some
Speaker 6: of the recisions and the different things that are happening,
Speaker 6: so you're not really seeing.
Speaker 3: The full picture.
Speaker 6: But the fact is this is a huge step in
Speaker 6: the right direction for getting the country on a better
Speaker 6: fiscal footing and we're unlocking growth. You know, there's three
Speaker 6: things we have to do really to get to a
Speaker 6: balanced budget, which the President hopes to achieve at some
Speaker 6: point before he leaves office, but you know, at least
Speaker 6: in the foreseeable future, we've got to grow. Okay, We've
Speaker 6: got to unleash our economy. We do that through tax cuts.
Speaker 6: We do that through deregulation. We do that through getting
Speaker 6: government out of the way. We're doing that, right, that's
Speaker 6: partly the President, partly Congress partly doge all of those
Speaker 6: things combined.
Speaker 3: Second, we got to do spending reductions.
Speaker 6: I already told you the historic nature of those spending
Speaker 6: reductions that we're doing.
Speaker 3: And then the third.
Speaker 6: Thing is we've just got to deregulate, and we've got
Speaker 6: to bring more jobs in. And ultimately, you know, in
Speaker 6: twenty seventeen, collected more money in taxes, which improved the
Speaker 6: fiscal picture as a result of the tax cuts than
Speaker 6: we would have if we didn't have the tax cuts.
Speaker 6: That's because more jobs were created, more people were paying taxes,
Speaker 6: So we've got to add revenue. The tariffs are doing that.
Speaker 6: We've got to cut taxes, we've got to cut regulation,
Speaker 6: unlock the economy through growth. We're doing that, and then
Speaker 6: we've got to do spending reductions. It's going to take
Speaker 6: all three of those things concerted effort over.
Speaker 3: A period of time. But if we just stick through it.
Speaker 6: Here and we are able to do it for four
Speaker 6: years instead of two, which means we have to win
Speaker 6: the House majority back in the midterms, then we'll be
Speaker 6: able to really be on a great.
Speaker 3: Sustainable fiscal path. So I think we're on.
Speaker 6: The path, but you know, it's not all going to
Speaker 6: be a done in one bill. We're going to have
Speaker 6: to do a couple and this is a monumental first step,
Speaker 6: way bigger than anyone expected months ago. So we're really
Speaker 6: proud of that, and we just got to get it done.
Speaker 1: We're talking to James Blaer, White House Deputy chief of Staff.
Speaker 1: You mentioned the border. I also think this is important.
Speaker 1: The tax cuts expire, so for people out there who
Speaker 1: don't realize this. What happens if the bill doesn't pass.
Speaker 6: Well, if this bill doesn't pass, first of all, economic
Speaker 6: forecasters are said, we're going into a recession because taxes
Speaker 6: are going to go through the roof. All of these
Speaker 6: tax cuts we passed in twenty seventeen will go away
Speaker 6: at the end of this year. Okay, So the average
Speaker 6: family is going to pay thousands more in taxes if
Speaker 6: the bill doesn't pass next year. Businesses are going to
Speaker 6: pay thousands more in taxes. We're not going to have
Speaker 6: the money to secure our border.
Speaker 3: Okay. All of these terrible things are going to happen.
Speaker 3: It will be the.
Speaker 6: Largest tax sike in history if this bill doesn't So
Speaker 6: that's just not an option.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 6: If we don't extend the debt ceiling, the country's going
Speaker 6: to default on its debt, which could drive us into
Speaker 6: a global depression.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 6: This is not our fault. This is Joe Biden's fault.
Speaker 6: We're just here cleaning up the mess, and that's what
Speaker 6: we have to do. It's not anything anybody wants to do.
Speaker 6: It's something that we have to do. The country can't
Speaker 6: default on its debt or people would pay the price
Speaker 6: in a master I don't think any of us can
Speaker 6: even fathom. And then on the border, look, we've got
Speaker 6: to ultimately have money to pay for planes and law
Speaker 6: enforcement to get people out of the country, and that
Speaker 6: money is coming in this bill, and that.
Speaker 3: Is such a critical piece.
Speaker 6: Everyone needs to understand that illegal immigrants in this country.
Speaker 3: Level that Joe Biden brought.
Speaker 6: In are a huge drain on our system. When you
Speaker 6: talk about the spending, I mean hundreds of billions of
Speaker 6: dollars being cost by illegal immigrants being in this country
Speaker 6: and being on public programs are in place for American citizens.
Speaker 6: When we get them out of the country, that's actually
Speaker 6: going to lower our spending levels massively without doing a
Speaker 6: single thing. One of the changes in the Big Beautiful
Speaker 6: Bill will be getting millions of illegal immigrants off of Medicaid. Okay,
Speaker 6: they're costing medicaid billions of dollars a year. So these
Speaker 6: open borders that we have, we have to not only
Speaker 6: have the border secure, but we've got to get these
Speaker 6: people out so they stop draining our public resources.
Speaker 3: All of this stuff has.
Speaker 6: To work together to get our country on the right
Speaker 6: fiscal path forward.
Speaker 1: Appreciate you being with us. Thank you so much for
Speaker 1: giving us some of the details on the big beautiful bill.
Speaker 1: What can you give us a census to what this
Speaker 1: announcement is supposed to be about the Golden Dome.
Speaker 6: I'm going to let the President break that news, but
Speaker 6: it's very exciting stuff. Look the President and something he's
Speaker 6: talked about for a long time. The President wants to
Speaker 6: make make sure the homeland is secure. He wants to
Speaker 6: make sure that other countries are deterred from ever thinking
Speaker 6: about even remotely thinking about attacking our country.
Speaker 3: So it's all part of.
Speaker 6: His vision of having the most lethal fighting force in
Speaker 6: the world. And that is what really gives us the
Speaker 6: leverage to sit at the table and demand peace not
Speaker 6: only for ourselves and our allies, but everywhere across the
Speaker 6: globe and the world has been better off when America
Speaker 6: has been strong in the world, and that is part
Speaker 6: and parcel having a strong military, part and parcel of
Speaker 6: that effort peace through strength.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for the time, Keep up the
Speaker 1: good work and we'll talk to you again soon.
Speaker 3: Thank you, guys.
Speaker 1: That's James Blair white House, Deputy Chief of Staff. You're
Speaker 1: joined now by James Blair white House Deputy Chief of Staff,
Speaker 1: aka the Oracle joining us now. All right, So that's
Speaker 1: a pretty cool nickname, and I imagine that doesn't sneak
Speaker 1: to be the White House Chief of Staff deputy that
Speaker 1: is known as the Oracle. So let me ask you
Speaker 1: for your predictions, Oracle, on how the Big Beautiful Bill
Speaker 1: is going to go and what should this audience know
Speaker 1: about it from your perspective.
Speaker 3: Appreciate it. Good to be with you, guys. I think
Speaker 3: that the.
Speaker 6: Big Beautiful Bill will get out of the House this week.
Speaker 6: I think that obviously, if it gets out of the
Speaker 6: House this week, then it will go over to the Senate.
Speaker 6: They'll work on it for a few weeks, and the
Speaker 6: goal is to get it on the President's text by
Speaker 6: July fourth, which I think will happen. Look, we've got
Speaker 6: to get this done. This bill has so much to love, guys.
Speaker 6: First of all, let's talk about the border first and foremost,
Speaker 6: which nobody's talking about anymore because the President has driven
Speaker 6: illegal border crossings to zero since he came into office.
Speaker 6: But this bill funds border enforcement, adds ten thousand new
Speaker 6: ice officers, gives them pay raises, gives us everything we
Speaker 6: need logistically to not only keep the border secure for
Speaker 6: the president's entire term in office so we don't have
Speaker 6: to come back and do this again, but also to
Speaker 6: deport people and get millions of illegal immigrants out of
Speaker 6: this country, which is something that a majority of the
Speaker 6: American people support. Secondarily, it gives us the funding we
Speaker 6: need for our military. You know that the President is
Speaker 6: involved in complex negotiations across the globe to bring peace
Speaker 6: that's backed up through strength. And it gives us the
Speaker 6: funding to modernize our military and make sure it's the
Speaker 6: most lethal fighting force in the world for the foreseeable future.
Speaker 6: But then the big thing that that does it everyone's
Speaker 6: talking about is the tax cuts. This renews the President's
Speaker 6: historic tax cut from twenty seventeen that was the biggest
Speaker 6: in history, and then adds more taxes on top everything
Speaker 6: he campaigned on. No tax on tips, no tax on
Speaker 6: Social Security, no tax on overtime pay. It will be
Speaker 6: the single largest tax cut for middle and working class
Speaker 6: Americans in the history of the country. And it will
Speaker 6: do that while still generating more than a trillion dollars
Speaker 6: right now one point seven trillion dollars in savings for
Speaker 6: the American taxpayer, which is twice as much savings that
Speaker 6: has ever been delivered by Congress in the last thirty years,
Speaker 6: and that was almost thirty years ago under Bill Clinton.
Speaker 6: So we're getting the country's fiscal house in order. We're
Speaker 6: giving people money back in their pocket that they earned.
Speaker 6: We're deregulating, we're unleashing energy, We're securing the border, were
Speaker 6: rebuilding the military. We're doing what President Trump campaigned on
Speaker 6: plane and simple. So there's still some little issues being
Speaker 6: worked out with a few guys at the edges, but
Speaker 6: in the big picture, I think we're right on track
Speaker 6: and I think we'll get everybody there.
Speaker 1: James, appreciate you being with us, and certainly a lot
Speaker 1: to be excited about that is in this bill. For
Speaker 1: those who are concerned about the debt, who want the
Speaker 1: the spirit and action of Doze to be enshrined in
Speaker 1: some way in this bill, what do you say to
Speaker 1: them and what can we point to that deals with
Speaker 1: getting that fiscal house in order, not just for this
Speaker 1: year but in the longer term.
Speaker 3: Yeah, great question.
Speaker 6: Well, first of all, it's important to note that this
Speaker 6: is by far the biggest savings, which I mentioned a
Speaker 6: minute ago. But let's put some points on I'm back
Speaker 6: in the back when Bill Clinton was president, Congress passed
Speaker 6: a package that saved like eight hundred billion dollars in
Speaker 6: spending cuts. Okay, this one's looking like one point six
Speaker 6: one point seven currently will still be you know, iterated
Speaker 6: on a little bit as it goes through the Senate
Speaker 6: and everything, but more than double.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 6: Congress literally has not done anything like that in over
Speaker 6: thirty years. So right there, those are the biggest savings
Speaker 6: that we've ever seen. We're doing something called recisions, which
Speaker 6: is the stuff that dojes found this bad stuff. We
Speaker 6: go out of Congress votes on it, and what's called
Speaker 6: a recisions package that's actually separate from this bill, but
Speaker 6: then it permanently.
Speaker 3: Pulls out that stuff out of the budget. Okay, they're savings.
Speaker 6: And then in that and then you know what's not
Speaker 6: counted in this bill, and it's just a stupid quirk
Speaker 6: of how legislative scoring works is tariff revenue. The president
Speaker 6: is bringing in hundreds of millions of dollars of tariff
Speaker 6: revenue right now, and that money's not being spent. Okay,
Speaker 6: that money's not being spent in the big beautiful bill
Speaker 6: or anything else that's just money and the treasury that
Speaker 6: goes straight to deficit reduction. So sometimes you know when
Speaker 6: they call it the Congressional Budget Office, which kind of
Speaker 6: puts out the charge they're not being honest because they
Speaker 6: don't add in the tariff revenue and some of the
Speaker 6: recisions and the different things that are happening, so you're
Speaker 6: not really seeing the full picture. But the fact is
Speaker 6: this is a huge step in the right direction for
Speaker 6: getting the country on a better fiscal footing.
Speaker 3: And we're on growth.
Speaker 6: You know, there's three things we have to do really
Speaker 6: to get to a balanced budget, which the President hopes
Speaker 6: to achieve at some point before he leaves office, but
Speaker 6: you know, at least in the foreseeable future, we've got
Speaker 6: to grow. Okay, We've got to unleash our economy. We
Speaker 6: do that through tax cuts. We do that through deregulation.
Speaker 6: We do that through getting government out of the way.
Speaker 6: We're doing that, right, that's partly the President, partly Congress
Speaker 6: partly doge all of those things combined.
Speaker 3: Second, we've got to do spending reductions.
Speaker 6: I already told you the historic nature of those spending
Speaker 6: reductions that we're doing. And then the third thing is
Speaker 6: we've just got to deregulate, and we've got to bring
Speaker 6: more jobs in. And ultimately, you know, in twenty seventeen,
Speaker 6: we actually collected more money in taxes, which improved the
Speaker 6: fiscal picture as a result of the tax cuts than
Speaker 6: we would have if we didn't have the tax cuts.
Speaker 6: That's because more jobs were created, more people were paying taxes.
Speaker 6: So we've got to add revenue. The tariffs are doing that.
Speaker 6: We've got to cut taxes, we've got to cut regulations
Speaker 6: the economy through growth, we're doing that, and then we've
Speaker 6: got to do spending reductions. It's going to take all
Speaker 6: three of those things concerted effort over a period of time.
Speaker 6: But if we just stick through it here and we
Speaker 6: are able to do it for four years instead of two,
Speaker 6: which means we have to win the House majority back
Speaker 6: in the midterms, then we'll be able to really be
Speaker 6: on a great.
Speaker 3: Sustainable fiscal path. So I think we're.
Speaker 6: On the path, but you know, it's not all going
Speaker 6: to be a done in one bill. We're going to
Speaker 6: have to do a couple and this is a monumental
Speaker 6: first step, way bigger.
Speaker 3: Than anyone expected months ago.
Speaker 6: So we're really proud of that and we just got
Speaker 6: to get it done.
Speaker 1: We're talking to James Blair, White House Deputy chief of Staff.
Speaker 1: You mentioned the border. I also think this is important,
Speaker 1: and the tax cuts expire. So for people out there
Speaker 1: who don't realize this, what happens if the bill doesn't pass.
Speaker 6: Well, if this bill doesn't pass, first of all, economic
Speaker 6: forecasters or said, we're going into a recession because taxes
Speaker 6: are going to go through the roof. All of these
Speaker 6: tax cuts we passed in twenty seventeen will go away
Speaker 6: at the end of this year. Okay, So the average
Speaker 6: family is going to pay thousands more in taxes if
Speaker 6: the bill doesn't pass next year. Businesses are going to
Speaker 6: pay thousands more in taxes. We're not going to have
Speaker 6: the money to secure our border.
Speaker 3: Okay. All of these terrible things are going to happen.
Speaker 3: It will be the largest tax hike in history if
Speaker 3: this bill doesn't So that's just not an option. Right.
Speaker 6: If we don't extend the debt ceiling, the country's going
Speaker 6: to default on its debt, which could drive us into
Speaker 6: a global depression. Right, this is not our fault. This
Speaker 6: is Joe Biden's fault. We're just here cleaning up the mess,
Speaker 6: and that's what we have to do. It's not anything
Speaker 6: anybody wants to do. It's something that we have to do.
Speaker 6: The country can't default on its debt or people would
Speaker 6: pay the price in a massive way I don't think
Speaker 6: any of us can even fathom. And then on the border, look,
Speaker 6: we've got to ultimately have money to pay for planes
Speaker 6: and law enforcement to get people out of the country,
Speaker 6: and that money is coming in this bill, and that
Speaker 6: is such a critical piece. Everyone needs to understand that
Speaker 6: illegal immigrants in this hunt level that Joe Biden brought
Speaker 6: in are a huge drain on our system. When you
Speaker 6: talk about the spending, I mean hundreds of billions of
Speaker 6: dollars being cost by illegal immigrants being in this country
Speaker 6: and being on public programs are in place for American citizens.
Speaker 6: When we get them out of the country, that's actually
Speaker 6: going to lower our spending levels massively without doing a
Speaker 6: single thing. One of the changes in the Big Beautiful
Speaker 6: Bill will be getting millions of illegal immigrants off of Medicaid. Okay,
Speaker 6: they're costing Medicaid billions of dollars a year. So these
Speaker 6: open borders that we have, we have to not only
Speaker 6: have the border secure, but We got to get these
Speaker 6: people out so they stop draining our public resources. All
Speaker 6: of this stuff has to work together to get our
Speaker 6: country on the right fiscal path forward.
Speaker 1: Appreciate you being with us. Thank you so much for
Speaker 1: giving us some of the details on the big beautiful bill.
Speaker 1: What can you give us a census to what this
Speaker 1: announcement is supposed to be about the Golden Dome.
Speaker 6: I'm going to let the President break that news, but
Speaker 6: it's very exciting stuff. Look, the President and something he's
Speaker 6: talked about for a long time. The President wants to
Speaker 6: make make sure the homeland is secure. He wants to
Speaker 6: make sure that other countries are deterred from ever thinking
Speaker 6: about even remotely thinking about attacking our country. So it's
Speaker 6: all part of his vision of having the most lethal
Speaker 6: fighting force in the world. And that is what really
Speaker 6: gives us the leverage to sit at the table and
Speaker 6: demand peace, not only for ourselves and our allies, but
Speaker 6: everywhere across the globe and the world has been better
Speaker 6: off when America has been strong in the world, and
Speaker 6: that is part and parcel. Having a strong military is
Speaker 6: part and parcel of that effort peace through strength.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for the time keep up the
Speaker 1: good work and we'll talk to you again soon.
Speaker 3: Thank you, guys.
Speaker 1: That's James Blair, White House, Deputy Chief of Staff,