1 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the cross Country Mortgage Campus 2 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio, at Brown's training camp twenty twenty four. 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by Bally 4 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: bat Now live in Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 5 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura. 6 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 2: All right, let's do it live out at the cross 7 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 2: Country Mortgage Campus. Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by 8 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 2: Belly Bet Sportsman. Be part of your Cleveland Browns. I 9 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 2: am merely Bo. He is the great ze an illuminary 10 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 2: writer of the Gate, Devin Bush, who has become quickly 11 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 2: a friend of the program. I might see you. I 12 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 2: light up your second appearance here that we've had the 13 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 2: first one during camp. You're vat material here now we're 14 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: talking August twentieth. What is this like, this part of 15 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 2: camp like for you? Yeah, just probably the best part 16 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 2: of count. 17 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 3: You know, you transition into the season, you can say 18 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 3: all the dog days have kind of been the dog days. 19 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 3: You kind of focus in on game planning and scheming, 20 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:03,959 Speaker 3: and you've got a good, good hold on you know who. 21 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 3: As the team looked like the identated team, and I 22 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 3: mean it's just a process. 23 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 2: You just keep rolling through the season. 24 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 4: So this is being treated as the first regular week, 25 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 4: like today it would be a Wednesday. We'll call it 26 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 4: in the regular seasons Tuesday. Okay, sure you like it, 27 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 4: so that's good, and say now we turn a little 28 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 4: bit of our attention to the Dallas Cowboys and the 29 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 4: things that matter. And that's how to be exciting. Does 30 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 4: it feel long to you? It feels long to me. 31 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 4: I don't know, Greenbriar to here, it just feels long. 32 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 3: It flies though every year. You like, before you go 33 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 3: to camp, you're like, all right, licens, lock in. Then 34 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 3: you get into camp and you start practicing and the 35 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 3: minute you blink is all right, we getting ready to 36 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 3: play Week one preseason is after that, you like, were rolling, 37 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 3: So it goes by pretty fast. But it's just a 38 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 3: heck of a process though, for sure. 39 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 4: And for you coming into a new team, which you know, 40 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 4: you started your career with the Steelers last year Seattle, 41 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 4: and you get to go back to Seattle here this weekend. 42 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 4: But does that kind of make it not as necessarily 43 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 4: monotonous for you? Because you are in many ways you're 44 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 4: learning a new scheme, you're learning some new terminology and 45 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 4: learning new you know, techniques within your role. So maybe 46 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 4: sometimes when you're busy er it's it goes faster. 47 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, you're right, that makes sense. 48 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 3: Like because I'm here and I got something to look 49 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 3: forward to, you know, I got a challenge each day 50 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 3: with the new terminology, new people, new scheme. You know, 51 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 3: I guess when you're sitting some place for four plus years, 52 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 3: you like, I heard this already. 53 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 2: Like let's meet this up a little bit, can I 54 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 2: go do this? 55 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 3: So yeah, it's definitely been been keeping me locked in, 56 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 3: definitely keep keeping me on my toes for sure. 57 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 2: Devin feels like the system fits you like a glove. 58 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 2: I mean, you seem so comfortable really all camp. But 59 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 2: every time I look out there, I see you bouncing 60 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 2: around making plays. It seems like it fits you like 61 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 2: a glove. 62 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 5: Man. 63 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 2: What is it that you like so much? And is 64 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 2: that an accurate portrayal? Yeah? Man. 65 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 3: The one thing I really loved when I first first 66 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 3: first got here, like day one OTAs was they gave 67 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 3: us a huge install you know, this is this is 68 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 3: us right here, and I'm looking it's like twenty five 69 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 3: plays deep, and I'm like, thank god, I came early, like, 70 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 3: but then on the back end of it, like everything 71 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 3: that we're putting in right now, everything that we're installing 72 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 3: right now is never gonna change. And that's one thing 73 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 3: I can say. It never changed. So you know, you're 74 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 3: able to lock in and hone in on the different 75 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 3: calls and you start understanding, you know, what your coach 76 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 3: likes to call. And then you get to watch game 77 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 3: film from the year previous year and you see the 78 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 3: same exact calls, same exact adjustments and terminology. So you 79 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 3: start you start picking up on it a lot faster. 80 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 3: Then you know, you got one call one day, this 81 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:26,679 Speaker 3: call one day, the next call. Then we all this 82 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 3: bouncing around. It was super consistent on the calls and 83 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 3: what we were what we were trying to get done 84 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 3: during camp. 85 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,119 Speaker 4: And this defense encourages you to go find the ball 86 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 4: and to play fast and to run and get it. 87 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 4: You're not having to kind of read what's going on 88 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 4: in front of you. Nobody's catching and reading. Everybody's just 89 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 4: going and it seems like that suits. 90 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 2: You very well definitely. 91 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 3: I Mean, the best thing for football player is especially 92 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 3: you know, when you got speed in quickly quickness, you know, 93 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 3: is the less you think, the faster you play. You know, 94 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 3: it's it's almost like a predetermination. And you know some 95 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 3: of the coaching points in the room is go faster. 96 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 3: And if you hear that as a player, like all right, 97 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 3: go faster, and you can't be wrong going fast as 98 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 3: a fast player. So you know, it helps, it works out, 99 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 3: and you know, and then after that, you just you know, 100 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 3: small things fatigue, Okay, you see this, you see that, 101 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 3: this this is how you should play it. 102 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 2: This is the next step. You know. 103 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 3: So it's just a continuous trial and error with this 104 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 3: defense because there's so many different things that you get 105 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 3: to do and so many different ways you get to 106 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 3: play different styles of offense. 107 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 2: What did you learn last week with the time against 108 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 2: Minnesota about this defense? Man, we we really rowdy. 109 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 3: We we in your we we in your we in 110 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 3: your face for real, Like you remember Rocks, you know, 111 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 3: choice was like yo, we're attack defense in your face. 112 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 3: And you know that was on full display, you know 113 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 3: that whole joint practice and you know that was the time. 114 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 3: You know, we get Miles on the on the on 115 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 3: the grass. You know, you get some of the older guys, 116 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 3: Shelby on the grass you get que on the grass Mohurston. 117 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 3: You get to play behind these guys. That's job is 118 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 3: to correct something and you get to really get a 119 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 3: real great feel on Okay, this is what it feels like. 120 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 3: All right, this is what mo was actually do. Okay, 121 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 3: this is what Miles like to do. And then it 122 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 3: just keeps growing and growing and growing. So man, we ain't. 123 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 2: Your face, So be careful, be careful out there. We 124 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 2: have a very big T shirt industry in this town. 125 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 2: We really rowdy shirt, rowdy, bunch of defense. There's a 126 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 2: I like that rowdy, there's a there's something there, Buddy 127 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 2: the dog for no reason. I like that. 128 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 4: Like are you Sometimes when you said, you know, you 129 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 4: have to see what Miles does that sometimes. 130 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 3: You like yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm I'm You've seen t 131 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 3: J great way. That was that was my next thing. 132 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 3: I've been across the way and I came across the 133 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 3: way and I get to see too diversive players of 134 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,559 Speaker 3: the Year, and I'm like, yo, those are two different, 135 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 3: completely different players, but they so special in they own 136 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 3: little ways, and it's crazy just to see the difference 137 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 3: and just to play style and how and how they prepare, 138 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 3: you know, get off and and counter moves. So it's 139 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 3: like you learn a lot just as a player, like damn, 140 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 3: Like I didn't know you could do that move in. 141 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 2: That type of city. He also bends in ways. 142 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 3: It's hard to compare those two peop because I remember, 143 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 3: you know, as a rookie and you know, as I was. 144 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 2: Going Miles garyt t J What Miles Gary t J What? 145 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 3: And I never really got a chance to really be 146 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 3: around Miles like that. But just just to see the comparison, 147 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 3: there is no comparison because they're two different players. 148 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, both produced. 149 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, at the end of the day, they're gonna have 150 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 3: plus ten sacks. 151 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a given. So it's like when you when 152 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 2: you think about what what this defense has in front 153 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 2: of it, obviously what it was a year ago. You're 154 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 2: in an addition to this defense, we've had some injuries 155 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 2: we've had to deal with too. I mean we were 156 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 2: talking like last week, like five or six guys you 157 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 2: consider like starters moved in there. Have you guys and 158 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 2: and Coach Schwartz, have you built the quality depth that's 159 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 2: required because one thing we learned last year, as as 160 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 2: you start to make a run of the postseasons, guys 161 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 2: are gonna get nicked. Yep, you've got to have guy 162 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 2: behind the guy who can go. Are you seeing that 163 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 2: in a satisfactory Yeah, for sure. In our room, you know, 164 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,239 Speaker 2: all the guys played different spots. You know, we planned. 165 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 3: Everybody has two different spots that they played that they've 166 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 3: been learning. Of course, you got the main one that 167 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 3: you learn and that you get good at. But yeah, 168 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 3: we we developing a good a good number of depth, 169 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 3: a good number of players because the team we also 170 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,799 Speaker 3: have is a young team, but we have a great 171 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 3: sprinkle of veterans, you know, that are able to drag 172 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 3: along guys or show guys, you know, teach guys, you know, 173 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 3: set them to the side, Hey try this, Hey try this. 174 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 3: So it's like that constant motion of of old and 175 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 3: young and and and old dog treat teaching new tricks 176 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 3: to you know. So it's it's it's a constant learning 177 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 3: process for everybody, you know what I'm saying. 178 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 2: So I think we have great depth. 179 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 3: I think we have great players, and we have a 180 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 3: great scheme that's gonna allow the players that we have 181 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 3: to do what they've been doing their whole life and 182 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 3: their whole career. 183 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 2: With some of those injuries. 184 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 4: How valuable it have been for you and my mood 185 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 4: to really get all that time, all those first team reps, 186 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,239 Speaker 4: all the extra work that you guys have probably gotten 187 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 4: because of that. 188 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 2: It definitely, it definitely, uh plays a big role into it. 189 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 3: Like you said, just just just schemes just fitting me 190 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 3: and me looking the way I look is because of 191 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 3: those of that opportunity and uh, you know, just going 192 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 3: out there and just trial and error and just learning 193 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 3: and just playing fast. 194 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 4: How many times did coach Tarbor show you stand up 195 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 4: a J. Dillon in the hole in that linebacker room 196 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 4: because you know. 197 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 3: He yeah, yeah, yeah, we definitely definitely had it. Had 198 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 3: a nice little time in the room on that play. 199 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 3: But I had a nice little time watching it myself. 200 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 3: I didn't watched that play over like thirty times. 201 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 2: Like that's AJ Dillon. That's a big boy. Yeah, that's 202 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 2: a big one there. Hey, So we're headed to Seattle. 203 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 2: You spent some time there for for this guy, Like 204 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 2: you got a free Friday night, you gonna you gotta 205 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 2: you got some recommendations. They were in. 206 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 3: Bellevue, I think, Yeah, Bellevue's is flooded with a bunch 207 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 3: of good places. They got the whiler room. It's like 208 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 3: the top floor at his hotel. Fire Yeah, right there. 209 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 5: Uh. 210 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 2: Then I got S t K New Steakhouse. 211 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 4: We went there last year and when we played when 212 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 4: you played, you guys, it was right around Halloween and 213 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 4: we went. 214 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:53,719 Speaker 2: To S t K. 215 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 4: It was me, Chris Rose, his wife, and Big Drew 216 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 4: and it was an off a meal, but they were 217 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 4: every server was in costume. 218 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh okay, dress for Halloween, not for children of 219 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 2: America in that. 220 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I sudden we were looking and I'm like, 221 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 4: I just thought Drew me. I'm like, oh man, what's 222 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 4: going on here? 223 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 2: Devin is great to see you about. We hopefully this 224 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 2: becomes regular because love talking to you, love your spirit, 225 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 2: love what you brought to the team. We thank you 226 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 2: for your time to thank you for stay healthy. Keep 227 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 2: producer brother good to see it. We appreciate that is great. 228 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 2: He is quickly becoming a great friend of the program. 229 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 2: Linebacker Devin Bush, who has been awesome throughout camp, give 230 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 2: you an idea of where we are right now in 231 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 2: terms of today's practices. This is the second to last 232 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 2: day of training camp here at the Cross Country Mortgage 233 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 2: camp has practiced today at two and then Wednesday at one, 234 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 2: so that'll be great to look forward to today. 235 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 4: And I think one of the reasons it's been a 236 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 4: little bit longer this year is because we were at 237 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 4: the Greenbrier, so we didn't have as many days in 238 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 4: front of the fans. 239 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 2: Normally, by this week it's kind of shut down. 240 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you're totally into the business of getting ready 241 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 4: for the season. But I think we've got these two 242 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 4: extra days here today and tomorrow. But it'll be great 243 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 4: to get to get in front of the fans. You 244 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 4: guys get some juice from that, right. 245 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 2: Yeah for sure, Yeah, for sure. 246 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 5: Yeah. 247 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 3: Warming up with no fans is super quiet. I know, 248 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 3: it's probably our third day practicing and were tired of 249 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 3: hitting each other and seeing each other, so you know, 250 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 3: get a new new crowd, noise out there, some new 251 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 3: faces and stuff, so it's good for us. 252 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 2: All right, there you go, Devin, Thanks again, Thank you. 253 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 2: We'll play a little higher or lower coming up next, 254 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 2: some press conference for you to get set to as well. 255 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 2: We're off and running on a Tuesday. 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Is a True Fantravel dot 265 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 2: com today and reserve your ultimate Brown's travel package. Two 266 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 2: of them left. My friend, I was great having Devin 267 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 2: Bush in with us. I like him a lot. I 268 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 2: like his play, like his spirit, like everything about the kid. 269 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 2: And yeah, what's not a lot to like there. But 270 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 2: what he said, like, you know, hey, like this is 271 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 2: more like game week. It kind of. 272 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 4: Hits it is. And that's that's why I say it is. 273 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 4: You know, typically at this point of the training camp 274 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 4: that you are not having fans here, and so you'll 275 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 4: have two days of fans here. But yeah, you're going 276 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 4: to be shifting some of what you're going to be 277 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 4: doing in anticipation of the schemes you expect to see 278 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 4: from the Dallas Cowboys, and so these are important practices. 279 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 4: You got basically two weeks now to really get ready, 280 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 4: and you've been doing little things here or there sprinkled 281 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 4: throughout that are that are focused on the Cowboys. But 282 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 4: you've got two weeks to go, and as we know, 283 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 4: you know, you got two weeks to go and try 284 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 4: to maybe even find out who may or may not 285 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 4: be playing left tackle for you in that football game. 286 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,839 Speaker 4: So there's a lot to a lot of work to do. 287 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 4: I think it's good, Seattle. You wish, you know, you 288 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 4: were getting kind of a similar defensive front or a 289 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 4: similar look to Dallas, and you're not, as we know, 290 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 4: but that's all right. You're gonna see that in our 291 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 4: practice is probably a little bit more like Dallas than 292 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 4: what you'll see. 293 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 2: But yeah, this is now. 294 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 4: They're trying to get on what will be the regular 295 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 4: schedule for the season, and today being Tuesday for a 296 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 4: Saturday game, so today is like a Wednesday in season. 297 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 4: Then tomorrow will be like a Thursday in season. Thursday 298 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 4: will be like the fast Friday, and then we will 299 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 4: get on the plane and head out to the Attle. 300 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 4: So yeah, that's this is you're getting into it now 301 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 4: a little bit more. I know they had to walk 302 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 4: through yesterday, walk through today, and now we'll have practice 303 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 4: coming up at around two o'clock. But yeah, you're getting 304 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 4: you're starting to get now game ready. I think you've 305 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 4: got and we went through it, and you know you're 306 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 4: pretty sure who fifty of your fifty three are. 307 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 2: You know there are a. 308 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 4: Couple little things that will be based upon you know how. 309 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 4: I like that guy's vibe, tremendous, the head boyd a 310 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 4: lot of good Yeah, I mean it, just the all 311 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 4: of it, right, Am I wrong? 312 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 2: No, I'm not wrong. No, you're not wrong. Or very 313 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 2: very nice guy, very full of energy. I said, I 314 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 2: just approval rating by me. Yeah, I like all of it, 315 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 2: everything that's happening there. 316 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 4: You have a sweet speech in our last organizational meeting 317 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 4: that was. 318 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, he might be nicknamed. I've not met him, but 319 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 2: I like everything about it. Yeah. He was with it, 320 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 2: he was with the cows before he came here, and 321 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 2: he was successful. Yeah. I like that. 322 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 4: So you've got in charge of like the vibe, like 323 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 4: customer experience vibe. 324 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 2: He's a really good guy. Yeah, I'm I'm I'm pro 325 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 2: I liked everything about it. 326 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 4: He could be in a Wes Anderson movie and would 327 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 4: be just an absolute hit. He could be in a 328 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 4: Tarantino movie, he'd be a hit. Yeah, a lot of 329 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 4: a lot of a lot of operations. 330 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 2: Like I could I could see him with with Ze Suh. 331 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 2: He'd definitely be with Ze Sue Team Zu loping around. Yeah, yeah, 332 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 2: I like a lot about that. You know what Devin 333 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 2: said before you before you were en route and Devon 334 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 2: was down here a little early, and he was talking 335 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 2: about like from their standpoint, from his standpoint as a veteran, 336 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 2: like this is onto the Cowboys. That's where they are, Like, 337 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 2: that's where he's at. Yes, the regular season, let's go now. 338 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 2: The crazy thing is we're going to finish this up 339 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 2: in Seattle on Saturday night, late, middle of the morning here, 340 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 2: middle of the night here, and then you're gonna get 341 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 2: back and then you're down for two weeks your practicing. Yes, 342 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 2: you don't have any again for two weeks. You're gonna 343 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 2: go two weeks without games. You're gonna have think about 344 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 2: this too, from a from a just a player standpoint. 345 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 2: The Bengals play Thursday night football. Yep, so they're cut 346 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 2: loose Thursday at home. They're cut loose Thursday night at midnight. 347 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 2: They're getting an extra three days to prepare preparation in 348 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 2: the regular season, by the way, and rest, preparation and rest, reset, 349 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 2: all those things. 350 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 4: Dumb about this is I don't know if you remember, 351 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 4: but it was in those many years ago when there 352 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 4: were four preseason games, the last preseason game everybody played 353 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 4: Thursday night. Yes, that's right, in the old days, and 354 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 4: it should be the same. Everybody should be playing this 355 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 4: preseason game on the same day. Whether it's Saturday that 356 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 4: doesn't or Thursday, whatever, but everybody should be playing that 357 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 4: preseason game on the exact same day. 358 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 2: I couldn't agree with you anymore. I think it's pretty 359 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 2: wild that that you're getting a two or three day 360 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 2: I mean, from the Bengals to be done at midnight 361 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 2: in their own beds, sleeping at one o'clock Thursday night 362 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 2: in Cincinnati, to our team getting back at six o'clock 363 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 2: in the morning. If if if that, yeah, if that, Yeah, 364 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 2: Actually we're probably more like seven or eight o'clock in 365 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 2: the morning on Sunday. Yeah, that's a pretty big swing. Brother, No, 366 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 2: it's absurd. 367 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 4: And now we don't even have it as bad as 368 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 4: the Patriots and the Commanders play at eight pm on Sunday. 369 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 6: Wow, that's got to be a network dress rehearsal game 370 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 6: like the forty nine Ers game this past Sunday. 371 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 2: They don't even know. 372 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 6: I bet that's like an AFC dress rehearsal or yes, 373 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 6: because each network has one game that. 374 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, look at how they don't even know how to 375 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 4: make sense of the fact that we're playing at ten pm. 376 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 4: They list it before the one pm games, even though 377 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 4: it goes chronologically on the score, like, are you sure? 378 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 5: Yeah? 379 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 4: So the Niners and Raiders, it turns out, also play 380 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 4: at ten pm, but that's two West Coast team, so 381 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 4: it's seven o'clock local for them, but they play on Friday. 382 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, Friday. Were By the way, we're the only team 383 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 2: in this predicament. So this is my theory on why 384 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 2: this is taking place or maybe some of the thinking 385 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 2: this is an NFL network game nationally. Okay, I am 386 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 2: wondering if they are test driving the fourth window. Is 387 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 2: there an audience for ten o'clock kicks in the preseason? 388 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 2: I think there will be in the NFL because this 389 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 2: is a this is they've never done this before. This 390 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 2: will be taking a East Coast team and played them 391 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 2: on the West Coast at ten o'clock in the final 392 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 2: preseason because it's just a stupid thing to do. So 393 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 2: why would you do it? How did it come about? Well, 394 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 2: my theory is they're trying NFL network saying, hey, if 395 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 2: we have NFL preseason game one starting at seven, one 396 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 2: starting at ten, Now, maybe there's two windows that we 397 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 2: can sell. Put one of them on NFL Plus. Maybe 398 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 2: there's a bigger audience for this than we think, because 399 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 2: here's the deal. You're right, people in Cleveland will watch. 400 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 2: You're bouncing around if you're me, and there's still a 401 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 2: lot of people like me and not as good as 402 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 2: it used to be that are in a cable world. 403 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 2: And NFL Football pops up ten o'clock on Saturday. Yeah, 404 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 2: I'll see what's this about. We got out here. There's 405 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 2: gonna be some of that. There's gonna be some of it. 406 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 2: I'm telling you. I think it's a fourth window test 407 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 2: drive for the NFL network. That's fine, it just didn't 408 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:14,239 Speaker 2: be with us. I understand the conversation. Yes, Devort now, 409 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 2: but I think that would have done it though, because 410 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 2: that doesn't test it because at seven o'clock for them, 411 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 2: they had to take a bigger market team from the East, 412 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,239 Speaker 2: one that has a huge fan base and put them 413 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 2: west to say, hey, what does this work? So who 414 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 2: watch NFL preseason football? Who's guaranteed to watch Browns fans? 415 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 2: Let's take the Browns are getting the Browns, Steelers, Bills, Packers. 416 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 2: Those are the teams that could have gone out there 417 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 2: and played. Here's the thing that bothers me that you 418 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 2: would have accomplished those things. Colts, Bengals, short travel, Bears, Chiefs, 419 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 2: short travel, Jags, Falcons short travel, Dolphins, Bucks, short travel, Niners, 420 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 2: Raiders not as short as it used to be, but 421 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 2: that is short travel Panthers, Bills, short Vikings, Eagles. That's longer, Rams, Texans, 422 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 2: Rams going to Houston longer, Ravens, Packers, not bad. Steelers, Lions, nothing, Chargers, 423 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,400 Speaker 2: Cowboys longer, but not bad. 424 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 4: Giants, Jets. That's what this game is supposed to be. Giants, Jets, 425 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 4: what I'm telling Browns, Lions. 426 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 2: Yes, I've just given you the answers to the test 427 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 2: of why this is. I know I don't like it. 428 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 2: I don't either, and I wish it wasn't you guys, 429 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 2: haven't us? I think it's stupid, but I understand why 430 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 2: it's us, and I think this is why they're doing 431 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 2: to play off of that. 432 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 6: I mean, we are, we are a higher or a 433 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 6: draw baby on NFL Network anytime we're on. Why do 434 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 6: you think we're always part of that Saturday triple header? 435 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,360 Speaker 2: Of course? And who's crazy enough to be locked into 436 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 2: a preseason football game starting at ten o'clock Browns fans, Yes, 437 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 2: they're locked in. That's right. So they're gonna get a 438 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 2: number and they're not chasing that much. I don't know 439 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 2: if you saw the ratings from over the weekend the 440 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 2: uh the Fox Stress rehearsal game that was forty nine 441 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 2: Ers and Saints. Yeah, that was the leading audience view 442 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 2: of the weekend. I saw on Sports TV Ratings Day. 443 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 2: It was like four and a half million was the 444 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 2: number on that. So from all of the stuff that 445 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:06,440 Speaker 2: I did on the Big ten network and the Big 446 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 2: ten and like what constitutes a ratings win in order 447 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 2: for there to be like advertising buy in, the real 448 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 2: minimum threshold is between three to three and a half million. YEP. 449 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 2: That's really the number you have to be at if 450 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 2: you're in there, then you're a draw. So when people say, like, boy, 451 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 2: it'd be nice if well, here, here's the best example. 452 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 2: The reason Ohio State isn't playing USC Washington UCLA in 453 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 2: year one is because Ohio State can play Iowa and 454 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 2: draw seven or eight million, right, Okay, they can play 455 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 2: Illinois and draw four and a half. Okay, so they 456 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 2: don't have You don't need to pair them with a 457 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 2: big guy to make a nice TV show. Same I 458 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 2: think is true here with us. Now, this could all 459 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 2: be nonsense, but I just connecting dots. I don't know. 460 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 2: That's what it seems like to me, and know one 461 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 2: how these television networks work. I think they're thinking they're 462 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 2: gonna get a big number at ten o'clock and be 463 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 2: able to trumpet. Hey, two million people watched the Browns 464 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 2: and the Seahawks on Sunday, Saturday night at ten o'clock Eastern. 465 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 4: The thing that makes the most sense about what you're 466 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 4: saying is that this was an out of left field, 467 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 4: left last second change. So it makes sense that they 468 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 4: would say, well, no, we need to do this for TV. 469 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 2: That's why we're doing it. 470 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 4: Because otherwise it makes no sense, and it is a 471 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 4: they've done a disservice to the clean broads. Now, I 472 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,719 Speaker 4: don't think that that's going to have a lingering impact 473 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 4: by the time we get to September the eighth and 474 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 4: SA Dallas Cowboys. In fact, that shouldn't but it could 475 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 4: have been easier. And by the way, I like some 476 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 4: of the traditions that were made. For example, the battle 477 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 4: of the barge between US and the line going to 478 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 4: Chicago should just be every preseason should almost be like 479 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 4: you play the same teams every single year, like we 480 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 4: play Chicago, Detroit and Buffalo. Correct, every reason to go. 481 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 4: There's a reason to have this get all wild. You know, 482 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 4: it's for Seattle. It's unfortunate for them. But then so 483 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 4: they play what the the Niners, the Broncos. They can't pay, 484 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 4: so they played the Bronco. 485 00:21:55,560 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 2: Chargers, the Broncos, the Raiders, and the Raiders, right yeah, yeah, 486 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 2: all of those would be So it's just no and 487 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 2: it is a disce it's a disadvantage for sure, US 488 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 2: versus Bengals. That's a big difference. 489 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 6: You know, where the disservice comes into play, Like we're 490 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 6: going to Land and our guys have to cut forty guys. Yeah, 491 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 6: you're right, like like that's so, that's a whole plane 492 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 6: ride home. You're exhausted, and now you've got to make 493 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 6: decisions on people's futures. 494 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 4: So the Cowboys are at home on four o'clock on Saturday, 495 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 4: and we are on the road at ten pm, so 496 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 4: they don't have any travel. Yeah, same day will be 497 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 4: the last day that they played a football game, so 498 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 4: at least that is somewhat even though they start six. 499 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 2: Hours early after come to us, we're going to finish 500 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 2: the next day. We will finish the next day. 501 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 5: Yeah. 502 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 2: It will be mapp the streaming schedule today and I 503 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 2: was like, oh this this. 504 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 4: Is definitely the first time that I've ever done a 505 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,719 Speaker 4: game that will start at on one day and end 506 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 4: on another. 507 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 5: Yeah. 508 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, because Thursday night games usually are done by eleven 509 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:57,360 Speaker 6: thirty eleven forty five. 510 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, to get into that same with Monday night, Yeah, 511 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 2: this is it's late. It's late. So and then for us, 512 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 2: what exactly are we going to see? What are we 513 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 2: you know, what, what's what are we going to do 514 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 2: at left tackle? Like that's real that that type of stuff. 515 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 2: So it's a it's one of those things where there 516 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 2: will be a lot of eyeballs around here on this 517 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 2: because we want to see four operate the offense. 518 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 5: Yep. 519 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 4: Now it'll be interesting when Kevin's the fancy said all 520 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 4: starters should expect to play. Does that include Miles Garrett? 521 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 4: I mean we heard Chris Rose yesterday say absolutely not. 522 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 4: Does it include Denzel Ward? 523 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 2: No? Remember last year didn't Denzel get dinged against Kansas City? Yeah, well, 524 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 2: a couple guys. I don't need to see any of that. 525 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 2: I don't need to see Denzel do anything. I don't 526 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 2: need to see Miles do anything. I'm good. 527 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 4: I don't really need to see anybody in our defense. 528 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 4: I'd like to see our offense play a couple of 529 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 4: good series and get them out. 530 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you. One good series. You remember 531 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 2: the you know the scene in uh in Anchorman where 532 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 2: he drops the go blank yourself, San Diego and then 533 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 2: he comes off and Ron goes, I'm a I have 534 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 2: to fire you, and he goes, bing Bong Bong, You're 535 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 2: fired head, I'm gonna fire you at big bog Bong. 536 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 2: So I like that big bog Bong. Like that if 537 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 2: you get a bing bong bong drive where it just 538 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 2: go get him out out. 539 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 5: Of course. 540 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 2: I think that's get I think that goes without saying 541 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 2: get out. Don't need to sit around, don't need to 542 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 2: sit around for it. Look at these guys coming in. 543 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 2: What do we got here? I feel like lacrosse. What 544 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 2: do they got what's the name of these guys? Saints? 545 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 2: Oh that's uh, that's Rocky River. That's a Rocky River area. 546 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:31,479 Speaker 2: Kids showing up. 547 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, there you go. 548 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,479 Speaker 2: We've seen a bunch of groups of youths. 549 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 6: It is Military Appreciation Day today as well. And uh, 550 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 6: I've seen numerous swat vehicles set up over there. 551 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 2: Okay, I don't like that. I means you can go 552 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 2: play on the swat vehicle. But the guys down there 553 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 2: in the yeah, in the unis yeah, looking good, looking 554 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 2: very good. Yeah, it's a different group than we're than 555 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 2: we've seen in the large group. You know what I 556 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 2: you know what I heard today the overnight low in 557 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 2: the forties and fifties. Windows are open, I know. But like, 558 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 2: this is crazy. Yeah, we've never had this. I've been 559 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 2: a vest camp. Yeah, I'm in wait, we've been in times. 560 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 2: We've been in a swamp. I'm in a cocomo. You are. 561 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 2: I don't think that's it, but I like it better. 562 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 2: That would have been a better day come down. Yeah 563 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 2: that was well, that that was cocktail. Yeah, yeah, that 564 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 2: a cocktail. 565 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 4: Speaking of the keys in the Bahamas, and watch the 566 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 4: first two episodes of Monkey, Bad Monkey, How did it do? 567 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 2: I enjoy it? But well I love Vaughn's my guy 568 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 2: and Von's He's got some great banner. There's it's it's good. 569 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 2: Are they it's setting the keys, setting the keys and 570 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 2: simultaneously in the Bahamas with an old, crusty fisherman as 571 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 2: the narrator. Do they get the sense that you're going 572 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 2: to have Is this a multiple season thing or is 573 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 2: it one? 574 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 5: In words? 575 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 4: I think it definitely could be a multiple season thing 576 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 4: because Von's because he's a detective. 577 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 2: So when you're a detective, case has always come. 578 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 7: There's always there, right there's yeah, yeah, that's example of 579 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 7: making a show of that is Magnum p I, where 580 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 7: he doesn't even own the house or the car or anything, 581 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 7: but basically gets to go around and solve mysteries and 582 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 7: drive a rich guy's ferrari and live in a rich 583 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 7: guy's house. 584 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 2: Well, Von does not, he is not rich. He also 585 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 2: does not have a car, and he is a menace 586 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 2: to the wealthy person who was that where Axel Foley 587 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 2: was born. You just kind of gave that dude in 588 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 2: the eighties. It didn't take much formulas. It's pretty easy. 589 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 2: There was there was, Yeah, it wasn't that hard. Do 590 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 2: you have a good looking lead? 591 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 6: Yep? 592 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 2: Is there some good looking female leads? Co stars we 593 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 2: can bring in? Yep? Fancy car, yep. What are we 594 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 2: gonna do? Go on adventures? Let's go green lighted, but stamp, 595 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 2: Let's go do another one. How about this, We're gonna 596 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 2: have a black firebird yep, it talks go, We'll chopper go, 597 00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 2: We'll do a chopper, an orange dodge charge. Let's green 598 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 2: light it. Let's do it. So that, well, that's exciting. 599 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to that. I was thinking about Vaughan. 600 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 2: He went on, he went in the Hollywood Walk of 601 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 2: Fame this week, his star went on, We are of 602 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 2: an age where our I would bet a lot that 603 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 2: our first experience with him was in Swingers. The first 604 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 2: time I ever saw him was in Swingers. Swingers was 605 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 2: a movie that in those days, for the kids out there, 606 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 2: things weren't just available whenever you wanted them. It wasn't 607 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 2: in theaters. It was one of those things that got 608 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 2: you started get word of mouth on it. I actually 609 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 2: read about it in Esquire's where I read about it. Yeah, 610 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 2: and so like it starting it out, and I remember 611 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 2: going to like Blockbuster and like trying to rent it, 612 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 2: and it like it'd be out all the time. Once 613 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 2: the word a couple copies of it. It wasn't like 614 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 2: a one it was like one copy. It was always gone. 615 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 2: You could never get it. And then I finally saw it. 616 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 2: It was tremendous, and then I went and bought it. 617 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 2: I went and found it at like a Barnes and 618 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 2: Noble or whatever, and actually bought the vhs. So that 619 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 2: so that I d from well now then later. But 620 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 2: I don't think there was no no. Yeah, that would 621 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 2: have been DVD. Yeah, nineties, it would have been DVD. Baby. Yeah, 622 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 2: I might have been part of my twenty DVDs. For 623 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 2: a dollar, there's what we're gonna. 624 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 8: Do for you. 625 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna get twenty CDs and you're gonna pay 626 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 2: a buck. That's right now. Over the course of the 627 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 2: next three or four years, you could pay a lot. 628 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 2: You're gonna pay a lot for these CDs, or you 629 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 2: or you're just not going to pay, or you're just 630 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 2: going to cancel it? Which is better? Which is a 631 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 2: better way to do? 632 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 4: I mean, were old enough to remember when Netflix was 633 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 4: basically a DVD rental service, you would be like, I. 634 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 2: Thought, I like this, and they sent you the DVDs. 635 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 2: I thought, next Netflix, there was I never I wasn't 636 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 2: a subscriber of that. I never really got it, like 637 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:46,959 Speaker 2: the notion of that I would want to do all 638 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 2: of that. And if you would have told me that 639 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 2: that became this, yeah, no chance to be there the 640 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 2: idea that somebody selling books online would turn into the 641 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 2: number one consumer entity on the planet. So I probably 642 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 2: wouldn't have had that either. But I'm so I'm excited 643 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:02,719 Speaker 2: for that. I'm excited for them. 644 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 4: And then I saw I was also told yesterday about 645 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 4: a show and I watched the trailer and I'm definitely 646 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 4: in on it, and I'm curious. It's it was out 647 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 4: two years ago. The a second season is coming, so 648 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 4: that passes your threshold there. I will say this. The 649 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 4: stars of the show are the dude Jeff Bridges, Yeah, 650 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 4: the old man. 651 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, looks awesome. I watched it. Not awesome. The trailer 652 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 2: looked great. I'll tell you what. The it's an amazing premise. 653 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 2: The the first episode is stunning, Okay, stunning, Okay, like 654 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 2: just yeah, I'm in for all of it. Let's go 655 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,719 Speaker 2: give me more. And then it feels like they were 656 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 2: trying to figure out I mean, you'll dry your own conclusions. 657 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 2: I think they were trying to figure out, is this 658 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 2: something we can make more than one season while making 659 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 2: the show, and if so, we need to we need 660 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 2: to play some stuff. Yeah, but the first is on Regal. 661 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 4: It's like, I mean, you're glad you're watching your earlier 662 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 4: season two. 663 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll watch, Yeah, for sure. It's been a while 664 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 2: since I saw it. I watched. I mean, I love 665 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 2: the dude first of all, and I love and Lift 666 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 2: gow Is. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, it's everything you want. 667 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 2: It's all of those things, all right, there you go, 668 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 2: Oh we got there. I have to tell this story, 669 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 2: do whatever you want. One of the beautiful things of 670 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 2: coaching all the boys used sports through the years, other 671 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 2: than hanging out with them, is seeing all these other 672 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 2: kids that I've coached. So yesterday was orientation day, uh 673 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 2: for for ten year old Beams eight year old bootsies. 674 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 2: So we did the orientation and kind of cruise around 675 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 2: get him into their classes, and and I see, uh, 676 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 2: this kid that I haven't. I had him in baseball 677 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 2: when he was really young, probably like six or seven 678 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 2: like that, him and his dad and I coached, and 679 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 2: I had him in baseball, and then I would see 680 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 2: he always had just a huge smile on his face, 681 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 2: like just pure joy kid, like just pure energy. One 682 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,479 Speaker 2: of Beams. He's good buddies. And so I saw him 683 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 2: yesterday and it reminded me we were coaching. I was 684 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 2: coaching flag foot all the time. He wasn't on our team. 685 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 2: He's on the other team, and I was with with 686 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 2: our team. And it was early part of flag and 687 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 2: the coach on the other team was kind of getting 688 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 2: fed up because they were kind of monkeying around at 689 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 2: the count and they kept like jumping. So instead of 690 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 2: just saying like down, set go or set go or whatever, 691 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 2: they would add stuff right or there'd be a pause. 692 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 9: So the coach is like, listen, we go on down 693 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 9: set hike. You got it downset hike. That's it, downset hike. 694 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 2: My guy Nolan goes under center, looks around and goes 695 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 2: purple Dolphin. Purple Dolphin. 696 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 5: I go. 697 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 2: So I saw him yesterday and I just talked to him. 698 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,719 Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, I don't even know if he remembered 699 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 2: doing it. His parents and I had a laugh about it, 700 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 2: but it was one of those things that was like 701 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,160 Speaker 2: this this little kid was like, they just not been saying, well, 702 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 2: you need downset hike. And he goes purple Dolphin, which 703 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 2: meant purple absolutely ready limit his best life. Got a nice, 704 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 2: nice little spring in this step. Yeah, so purple Dolphin 705 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 2: was purple doll. That was pretty good. That is good. 706 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 2: All right, Well we'll hit a little higher low. You're 707 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 2: gonna hear from coach as well as we're inching closer 708 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 2: to the start to the second to last day of 709 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 2: training camp. 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The annual Halftime 718 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 2: dog Races was a Cleveland Browns dot com slash milkpone 719 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 2: to enter and check out more from Milkbone at your 720 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 2: local grocer and pet supply store or Jack Conklin walking out. 721 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 6: We will hear from Coach a little bit later on 722 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 6: shirt T shirt, T shirt and shorts and out here 723 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 6: doing it. 724 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 2: But yeah, good to see him, good to see it. 725 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 2: It's good to see him all right. Time for a 726 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 2: little higher or lower and for that Hello gibbe, gentlemen. Hi, 727 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 2: it's Tuesday. It's a Tuesday. 728 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 5: It's all. 729 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 2: It is all it is least the weather's nice. Game 730 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 2: one for NBC tonight, Wadsworth Grizzlies coming to town, really 731 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 2: game one this one. Are there a lot of grizzly 732 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 2: bears in Wadsworth? Are there a lot of Browns in Cleveland? 733 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 2: Probably more Browns than there are grizzlies. Well, definitely the 734 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 2: last name Brown, last name Brown. Yeah, quite a bit 735 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 2: of Yeah. No, I don't think so that you can 736 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 2: over a black bear every once in a while. Maybe 737 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 2: I did say a nice black bear while I was 738 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 2: in West Virginia. Yeah, yeah, you like those guys. They're pretty, 739 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 2: they're pretty harmless. 740 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 6: No big deal there, I don't need any I almost 741 00:33:58,160 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 6: ran into a skunk. 742 00:33:59,080 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 2: We had the war. 743 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 6: It's biggest skunk around the one night it was in 744 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 6: West Virginia. 745 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,280 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because they're eating other rodents. It was enormous. 746 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,479 Speaker 2: Think of the food supply down there, guys. Think about 747 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,760 Speaker 2: just all of the food just eating off the people's 748 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 2: all those cottages. You guys are in, people sucking down 749 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 2: drinks and all sorts of things, snacks. Next thing, you know, 750 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 2: the little skunk, it's to suck down some leftovers. I 751 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,720 Speaker 2: saw a raccoon there too, that was from the size 752 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 2: of a German shepherd. Yeah, those are buddy, Buddy Garrity 753 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 2: had we had that situation earlier in the spring with 754 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 2: it was a little bit dicey. 755 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 6: So the last game NBC had was the just a scrimmage. 756 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 2: That yeah, yeah, so that's that was a scrimmage game 757 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 2: last Thursday or Friday. This is for real. We're uh. 758 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 2: We kept scoring that one. But this one goes in 759 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 2: the winds, goes in the record books and away we go. 760 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 2: So it's like days ago. Yeah, and now regular season. 761 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 6: And they haven't started school, so you're not wearing the jersey. 762 00:34:58,560 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 6: The school starts tomorrow. 763 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,320 Speaker 2: So yeah, it was a big There was a cackle 764 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,800 Speaker 2: coming out of me when I said, last time to 765 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,240 Speaker 2: sleep in. Boys enjoy it. Hope you enjoy it. Fellas. 766 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 2: They get to wear the jersey, don't they. What are 767 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 2: you saying, Well, there's no school school, so wow, it 768 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 2: doesn't get to wear to school. You have to wear 769 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 2: game day. So their games are on Tuesdays, so you 770 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 2: have they'll wear game days will be Tuesday. 771 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 6: There, Bosi, there's going to be a time limit on 772 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 6: video game playing again. 773 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 2: It's already locked out, like you got the news of 774 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 2: it started. You know, my mom sad game coast today. 775 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 2: She goes, we'll get it in. It's going away tomorrow. 776 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 2: So they're locked out. So I think it's like they 777 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 2: could play Thursday night, but uh, but Sunday or Monday 778 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 2: through Wednesday they're out. 779 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,279 Speaker 4: So Boots he's on today, he'll be today. I'll see 780 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 4: if he's got a big practice for him tonight. 781 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 2: He's got a lot going on. I don't know, have 782 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 2: they officially started first game Saturday for him. How many 783 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 2: lamps have you made them run? Because you're coaching him? Still? Yeah, 784 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 2: every time they walk back to the huddle they run. 785 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 2: Is he still putting an extra worker to that? Was 786 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,799 Speaker 2: that a short lived one day day? One day, one 787 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 2: day extra work? Next day? Really got out there, put 788 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 2: in a real nice grind, had a little glisten of sweat. 789 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 2: Then that was it. It We're done. We're done, so 790 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 2: no extra work. 791 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 4: So I could see Bootsy being like, listen, dad, we 792 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 4: both we both we both know I'm not going to 793 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:19,320 Speaker 4: the NFL. 794 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 6: So like I don't think he knows. Oh no, no, no, 795 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 6: no no, I wasn't going down that road that I'm going. 796 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,879 Speaker 6: I think we know who has the talent on this team. 797 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 2: Well he may think that. I don't know. I think 798 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 2: reality is different. We'll see, we'll see what happens. So, yeah, 799 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 2: that's a good group. They debut on Saturday. 800 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 4: I think, Gibbet, you should go walk down this aisle. 801 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 4: I think you'd get a real nice reaction if you 802 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 4: walk out of that door. Those kids in the Saints' 803 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 4: uniforms are gonna cheer you. Yes, irre godless, irregardless good. 804 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 6: There's an unbelievable moment for them. 805 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:52,840 Speaker 2: It is memories. 806 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 6: By the way, practice pretty full. Stands are full. I 807 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 6: don't recall seeing over the one that. Yeah, like there's 808 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 6: a lot of people here today, considering it's back to 809 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 6: school week. 810 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 2: All adults. It looks like over there, right, it does 811 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 2: look like, yes, not a lot of kids. Bounce off 812 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 2: the kids. And to make sure we need to make 813 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,880 Speaker 2: sure there's no Dallas Cowboys spies over there. Of that, 814 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,760 Speaker 2: no over unders. 815 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:21,439 Speaker 6: The projected record and the over under totals from Las 816 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:26,880 Speaker 6: Vegas uh CBS Sports, Will Brinson predicts every NFL teams 817 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 6: record based on the over unders. Okay, we'll start in 818 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 6: the AFC Norris Division. Yep, it's the one we play in. 819 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 6: The Ravens projected in Magus ten and a half. 820 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:45,800 Speaker 2: Under, big number under higher lower for the under or 821 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 2: Brinson's projected. Well, I'll go higher lower on the over under. 822 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 2: I'm saying I think they're going to go under under 823 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 2: ten and a half, and he hasn't at twelve and five. 824 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 2: Twelve and five is the record. 825 00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 4: He yet they have so much cachet that and justify 826 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 4: it well so, But I don't think people they lost 827 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 4: a lot on defense. 828 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,280 Speaker 2: They lost their leading sat getter as an ed rusher. 829 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 2: They lost Patrick Queen. 830 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 4: On the second level, they lost Geno Stone, who led 831 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 4: the league with seven picks a year ago. On the 832 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,840 Speaker 4: third level, they lost their defensive coordinator who's now a 833 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 4: head coach, their d line coach who's now a defensive coordinator, 834 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 4: and their secondary coach who is now a defensive coordinator 835 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:27,800 Speaker 4: in the league. Like that feels significant to me. And 836 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 4: their corners are older and more banged up than these. 837 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 4: It just I don't know, it all feels significant to me. 838 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 2: So I'm with you. I also think that this the North, 839 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 2: Like you could put all of these over unders at 840 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 2: nine and a half, and I think that'd be a 841 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 2: appropriate number, and I think it would be about right. 842 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 2: I mean, they are more bullish on the Ravens and 843 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,320 Speaker 2: Bengals than us, which by significant margin, which is a 844 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 2: little surprising to me. But I'm with you. To me, 845 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 2: Raven they just feel like ten and seven. I don't 846 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 2: see any scenario how they're worse than that. But I 847 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 2: do think that the losses are real, and I think 848 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 2: just this division is a real one. They won the 849 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 2: division a year ago. Two so they're playing a first 850 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,840 Speaker 2: place schedule. Yeah, they're not sneaking up on that. 851 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 4: No, here's the other thing. They're acting like a ton 852 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 4: of things. Derrick Henry is going to change the game 853 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 4: significantly for them. Gus Edwards last year ran for eight 854 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,319 Speaker 4: hundred and ten yards and thirteen touchdowns. He's averaged four 855 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 4: point nine yards per carry for his career as a Raven. Like, yes, 856 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 4: is Dereck Henry, but of course he is. But it's 857 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,439 Speaker 4: not like we're talking about it's insane average. What's gonna 858 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 4: do average? Seven yards to carry? 859 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 2: Right? 860 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 5: You know? 861 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,880 Speaker 4: Last year, by the way, he has led the NFL 862 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 4: and carries in four of the last five seasons. At 863 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,440 Speaker 4: some point he's going to have a cliff career low 864 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,399 Speaker 4: four point two yards for carry last year. 865 00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 2: Yep. Like it's it's he'll bounce back because with Lamar 866 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,239 Speaker 2: Versus Levice and everything they did last year, and they 867 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:45,840 Speaker 2: have more weapons. But I'm with you, I think the 868 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 2: defensive stuff is very real. I think they're ten and 869 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:48,800 Speaker 2: seven to me. 870 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 6: I think under so ten and a half for the 871 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 6: Ravens and the Bengals, eight and a half for the 872 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,400 Speaker 6: Squealers and US and will Brinson has the gall to 873 00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 6: project us to go seven and ten. 874 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 2: Put it on the BLA boy, I mean, come on, 875 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:06,439 Speaker 2: it's what I look this is a hey, hey, yeah, 876 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,160 Speaker 2: come on, come on, it's this team is going to 877 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,359 Speaker 2: have to deliver when it matters we get And what's 878 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 2: amazing to me is, other than all the awards we 879 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 2: won at the end of last year, there is absolutely 880 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 2: no cachet being given to what this football team accomplished 881 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,400 Speaker 2: with the reigning number one defense and five quarterbacks who 882 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 2: played four when games mattered, four quarterbacks last year, There's 883 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:30,719 Speaker 2: been no credence to that whatsoever. 884 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 4: And it's and people are ignoring and I'll call it 885 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 4: four and one. It's not five and one because the 886 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:39,280 Speaker 4: Indianapolis game, Yes he started it, but that Deshaun Watson 887 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 4: when four and one is a starter. This defense is 888 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 4: number one. We've improved our skill position group. You will 889 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 4: get we didn't even have Nick Chubb last year. You'll 890 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,880 Speaker 4: have Nick Chubb for I would assume a portion of 891 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,239 Speaker 4: this season. It just it's it's a lot. 892 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:53,239 Speaker 2: That's to me. 893 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,800 Speaker 4: It's like, I don't know how you look at this 894 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 4: roster top to bottom and say, yeah, this team can't 895 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,239 Speaker 4: win it should be nine and a half. 896 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,880 Speaker 2: This team can't win ten games. This you alluded to 897 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 2: it a little bit, but it's here's the reality. The 898 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 2: way that we view Watson's limited time here mostly positively. 899 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,359 Speaker 2: You mentioned the four and one record, those type of things. 900 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,840 Speaker 2: The rest of the world views him as a detriment. 901 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 2: We've been dealing with this all off season. He'd be 902 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,920 Speaker 2: ranked twenty fifth among quarterbacks, like we saw this stuff like, 903 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,840 Speaker 2: so the way that Deshaun Watson ought to have a 904 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 2: chip on his shoulder the side of the State of Texas. Yes, 905 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,239 Speaker 2: because there isn't the only thing that people come back 906 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,359 Speaker 2: to when they're critical of this team is his play. 907 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 2: It's him, and it's if there was Flacco even stuff 908 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,320 Speaker 2: like that, like they were better off with that in 909 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 2: that situation with Joe and so they are. When you 910 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,360 Speaker 2: look at this roster and they go a negative, is 911 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,840 Speaker 2: the quarterback play that's a negative and that's how this 912 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 2: ends up. Well, seven and ten for him, eight and 913 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 2: five is the over under. Nobody believes in four outside 914 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 2: of people in this building and the people who are here. 915 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 2: But we're still twelve and most power rankings in the league. 916 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 2: This has us right, But I mean this is that's 917 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 2: a little different too, a power ranking versus where you're 918 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,759 Speaker 2: gona end up in the standings, because it doesn't take 919 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 2: them to account division you play in, Like, we still 920 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 2: may be twelfth in the power rankings and be third 921 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 2: in the division. The division's that good. 922 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,360 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so there's likely three teams will make the 923 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,239 Speaker 4: playoffs from this division. I would say, when it's all 924 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:20,520 Speaker 4: said and. 925 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,879 Speaker 2: Done, I see no scenario how we're seven and ten. 926 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 2: I would go certainly over the eight and five. I'm 927 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:27,960 Speaker 2: with you, I think ten and seven. I wouldn't be 928 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 2: surprised if everybody in this division was between ten and 929 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 2: seven and nine and eight. I wouldn't. I just think 930 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 2: they're going to cannibalize each other. The Steelers got the 931 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,799 Speaker 2: most issues, I would soon, but then they win every year, 932 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,080 Speaker 2: so I don't know. I assume at some point it 933 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 2: falls off for them, but it doesn't. Bengals. I like 934 00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 2: the Bengals more than the Ravens at the top of 935 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 2: the division. I think they've actually, I mean Gino Stone 936 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 2: coming in on the back end the best offensive line 937 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 2: Burrows ever played played behind, which isn't saying much, but 938 00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,279 Speaker 2: it's true. They gotta get the Higgins thing or the 939 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 2: Jamar Chase sorted out. But I think they'll be a 940 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,320 Speaker 2: little more consistent at running back. And then it just 941 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,399 Speaker 2: comes down to if Burrows healthy. If he's healthy, he's great. 942 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,760 Speaker 2: He's just got to stay healthy, which is probably probably 943 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 2: where it's at. But in terms of their roster, actually 944 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:13,760 Speaker 2: like their off season more than I like the Ravens offseason. 945 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 4: They've had some injuries already. They have what's kind of 946 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 4: the Ronnie Hickman still not practicing for the Browns. Looks 947 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:22,560 Speaker 4: like Alex Wright also not procu. 948 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:23,880 Speaker 6: Was gonna say, I didn't see a helmet. 949 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,480 Speaker 4: What are they saying about so they've remade their safety room, right, 950 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 4: we know that. What are they saying about Daxton Hills 951 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:38,280 Speaker 4: transition Tony Brown not practicing today? About Dax Hills transition 952 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 4: to being a slot corner after his struggles at safety. 953 00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,440 Speaker 2: Be honest with you haven't drilled down on him that 954 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 2: far to see where they are with that part of it. 955 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,759 Speaker 2: Mostly just talking about the top end stuff with them. 956 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,080 Speaker 2: I do remember talking with Mike Petregli about it in 957 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 2: the spring, who covers the Bengals, and they're thinking. 958 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:53,279 Speaker 1: Was that this? 959 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,279 Speaker 2: But you know, they always it's always through black and 960 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 2: orange colored glasses that this is more of a natural 961 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,320 Speaker 2: fit for him than what they drafted him to being away. 962 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:04,120 Speaker 2: He's a safety, a safety, a safety. So that didn't work. 963 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 2: So they've they've obviously had to reconfigure. Yeah, people miss 964 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 2: on picks. It happens, of course. So they reconfigured and 965 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,920 Speaker 2: got in Gino Stone to kind of get in there, 966 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,799 Speaker 2: brought Van Vonde was in the stability that they're they're 967 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:17,920 Speaker 2: wanting there, but I think, you know, like they don't 968 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 2: have time, They don't Boyd's not there anymore. So have 969 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,000 Speaker 2: a receiver. They need the Burton kid to go. He's 970 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 2: the kid out of Alabama. They need him to go. 971 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,400 Speaker 2: They think he will. They think eventually we will replace 972 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 2: you know, t Higgins will be the natural replacement there. 973 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,719 Speaker 2: But he's very talented. But a lot of issues. Yeah, 974 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:35,920 Speaker 2: I mean, it happens, and that's probably why he fell 975 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,720 Speaker 2: words why it is, Oh yeah, those things happened. Tody 976 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,480 Speaker 2: Fields back to practice. It looked like he was fully ready. 977 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 6: Uh from the AFC East gentlemen. Yeah, number just some 978 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,920 Speaker 6: other numbers that stood up. The bills over under were. 979 00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,680 Speaker 2: Ten and a half under under I think too, and 980 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,279 Speaker 2: they will. Brinston has them ten and seven winning the 981 00:44:54,320 --> 00:45:00,440 Speaker 2: AFC East, praying these kids with the water bottles. So 982 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:02,919 Speaker 2: the idea that the Dolphins and the Jets are both 983 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,400 Speaker 2: nine and eight, Miami goes nine and eight, you might 984 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,000 Speaker 2: have to fire Mike McDaniel. I don't understand that they're 985 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 2: not going nine and eight. They're better than that. They're 986 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,799 Speaker 2: better than that. What does he have the Jets? Yeah, 987 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,759 Speaker 2: the Jets. If Rogers is healthy, that's they're better than that. Yeah. 988 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 2: I think the Patriot's gonna have Finally, well that's where 989 00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,680 Speaker 2: you look at I realize the Patriots suck. 990 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:24,960 Speaker 4: So you look at the AFC, right, and so you 991 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:30,240 Speaker 4: got three wild card teams. It feels to me recent 992 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,480 Speaker 4: birthday dumb, yesterday's birthday. 993 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,759 Speaker 2: No cav problem for that kid. No, he's always in 994 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,080 Speaker 2: a good shape on the Yeah, well he's on his toes. 995 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,480 Speaker 2: You have potentially, I think three from our divisions. 996 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,160 Speaker 4: That's two wild cards you have potentially, if we're being 997 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:50,080 Speaker 4: honest about it, three from the AFC East, and then 998 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,279 Speaker 4: I think the West is probably a one team, you know, 999 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:57,279 Speaker 4: maybe Chargers, maybe Chargers, but one we play them, so 1000 00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 4: we get to control a little. 1001 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,520 Speaker 2: Boscasting of them. These guys could go like thirteen and 1002 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,640 Speaker 2: four pretty easy. They can like if they want to, 1003 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,440 Speaker 2: If they want to go, they could really and the 1004 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:08,680 Speaker 2: South fields like a one team. 1005 00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,960 Speaker 4: Although I think the South is a better top to 1006 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:12,960 Speaker 4: bottom division than people realize. 1007 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,040 Speaker 2: I think it's much improved. I mean it basically got 1008 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,440 Speaker 2: a shot of adrenaline with that Houston draft that elicited 1009 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,160 Speaker 2: them Anderson and Stroud, So that's a big part of it. 1010 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,920 Speaker 2: The Colts, it's a lot on Richardson. I mean, if 1011 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,719 Speaker 2: he's what they think he can be, it's a lot 1012 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,440 Speaker 2: on him. Jacksonville is the one that's interesting, Like Jacksonville 1013 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,760 Speaker 2: nine to eight, and like we give them the benefit 1014 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,759 Speaker 2: of the doubt of the first year where Urban just 1015 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:40,120 Speaker 2: messed everything up, but really they've been stable since and 1016 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,840 Speaker 2: it's almost like Houston jumped in their spot. 1017 00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,719 Speaker 6: Well yes, and if they don't, they just disappeared in 1018 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:47,520 Speaker 6: the final five six weeks. 1019 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 4: Right they got They like the kid they drafted out 1020 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,839 Speaker 4: of LSU, Brian Thomas. Oh yeah, yeah, he's supposedly been 1021 00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 4: been quite good, quite good. 1022 00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:59,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean the good news is they recognize. 1023 00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,239 Speaker 4: They have a horrible offensive line, and I'm shocked that 1024 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,320 Speaker 4: they did not address that. A horrible offensive. By the 1025 00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,839 Speaker 4: way I saw stat in the preseason, our line. It's 1026 00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,400 Speaker 4: US and the Jags in both categories. I think in 1027 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:14,520 Speaker 4: terms of pre pressure allowed like pressure rate allowed, were last, 1028 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,080 Speaker 4: and in terms of yards that running backs go before 1029 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,400 Speaker 4: they take contact, I think we're thirty first preseason. 1030 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,239 Speaker 2: We have played our we have played our line though. 1031 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:24,920 Speaker 2: All right, let's just do this one real quick. Do 1032 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,440 Speaker 2: you guys realize this? They predict there's only four teams 1033 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,920 Speaker 2: with a predicted worse record than us. Of course correct 1034 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:37,480 Speaker 2: in the AFC four four teams Pittsburgh got worse, Patriots worse, Raiders, worse, 1035 00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:39,920 Speaker 2: Titans worse. He has with the same record as the 1036 00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:40,840 Speaker 2: Denver Broncos. 1037 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,600 Speaker 6: The Broncos over unders five and a half. 1038 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:49,279 Speaker 2: Seven and ten. I'm not if that happens. I'm not 1039 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:54,080 Speaker 2: doing the show Monday, not doing which No Chief today 1040 00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:56,560 Speaker 2: the Monday after seven and ten. I don't need to 1041 00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 2: see Chief. He's good, he's good, got some work in 1042 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,040 Speaker 2: to be like the Falcons, like we're shutting them down. 1043 00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:07,319 Speaker 2: We've seen enough. We've seen enough. Michael of our twenty 1044 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:11,400 Speaker 2: six is going to start this year. No, I was 1045 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,759 Speaker 2: reading sure stuff about Cousins and like like that he's 1046 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,960 Speaker 2: like not all the way back. He's taken every first 1047 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,560 Speaker 2: team rep. I know, but it's not the zip isn't there, 1048 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,720 Speaker 2: the location isn't there. I know he's taken all the reps, 1049 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,280 Speaker 2: but like he hasn't been what they thought. He hasn't 1050 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,279 Speaker 2: looked that clean. Just reading about it this morning, really 1051 00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,280 Speaker 2: I thought people were pleased and he was loving pits. 1052 00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,359 Speaker 2: He loves pits, loves pits, throws him all the time. 1053 00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,920 Speaker 2: But like in terms of the intermediate and deeper stuff, 1054 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,600 Speaker 2: it's it hasn't been there yet. So I don't know. 1055 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,839 Speaker 2: I don't understand any other reason why you would shut 1056 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:42,399 Speaker 2: down a first run. 1057 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,600 Speaker 4: So he's gonna start, and they're gonna like wait until 1058 00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:45,960 Speaker 4: Cousins is ready or. 1059 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,040 Speaker 2: Maybe who knows that would maybe they think need both 1060 00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:52,200 Speaker 2: of them. That organization is they're doing. They do some 1061 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,239 Speaker 2: very unique things they do. Is the way that I 1062 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:56,560 Speaker 2: would phrase that they do. 1063 00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,160 Speaker 6: I mean, we'll get to the NFC later this week, 1064 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,239 Speaker 6: all right, I think that would be a good conversation 1065 00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:03,719 Speaker 6: for later. 1066 00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:08,920 Speaker 2: I like Chiefs over eleven and a half. I like 1067 00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,080 Speaker 2: Dolphins over nine and a half us over eight and 1068 00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:14,160 Speaker 2: a half. We'll have to do this. We get closer. Yeah, 1069 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,960 Speaker 2: the do the the over underfund. All right, second hour 1070 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,000 Speaker 2: of the program. Up next you'll hear from coach Stefanski 1071 00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,400 Speaker 2: from the podium. We'll also start to paint the pictures 1072 00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,640 Speaker 2: as training camp practice second to the last one is 1073 00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:27,560 Speaker 2: going to be taking place right in front of us. 1074 00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,280 Speaker 2: You're listening to Cleveland Browns Daily on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1075 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,960 Speaker 1: This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by Bally 1076 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:44,480 Speaker 1: bed Now Live in Ohio, Live from Brown's training Camp 1077 00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,279 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four at the Cross Country Mortgage Campus. 1078 00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:51,080 Speaker 8: In Barrie, Ohio. Here again our bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura. 1079 00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,560 Speaker 2: All right, welcome in clear the broad sale a fifty 1080 00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,480 Speaker 2: ESPN Cleveland. Second to last day of training camp. 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Purchase your official fan Experience packets today 1099 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:11,359 Speaker 2: for the ultimate game Day. 1100 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:13,120 Speaker 5: The guys are doing a nice job. 1101 00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,480 Speaker 10: We've adjusted the schedule to be more of a regular 1102 00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:19,000 Speaker 10: season schedule, so the guys can get used to that 1103 00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,960 Speaker 10: type of schedule. Also get used to the idea of 1104 00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:25,680 Speaker 10: getting a game plan first and second down today, getting 1105 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,759 Speaker 10: a third down game plan tomorrow, getting a red zone 1106 00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:32,360 Speaker 10: game plan the next day. So just really conditioning our bodies, 1107 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,520 Speaker 10: conditioning their minds to be ready to get through a 1108 00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:36,520 Speaker 10: regular season schedule. 1109 00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,040 Speaker 5: If you will, So looking. 1110 00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:39,560 Speaker 10: Forward to that, looking forward to getting on the airplane 1111 00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:44,560 Speaker 10: heading out to Seattle. Mike McDonald's very very good coach, 1112 00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,560 Speaker 10: as we've seen firsthand, got a ton of respect for him. 1113 00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:49,600 Speaker 10: He's got a great coaching staff out there. So it 1114 00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,200 Speaker 10: would be a great challenge for our football team, especially 1115 00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,800 Speaker 10: to go on the road playing a stadium that we 1116 00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:56,560 Speaker 10: know is very loud, so you have to deal with 1117 00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,439 Speaker 10: the noise conditions of the crowd noise, which is again 1118 00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,520 Speaker 10: excellent work for our football team. But we'll start that 1119 00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,759 Speaker 10: work really in earnest today and with that, I'll take 1120 00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:05,360 Speaker 10: any questions. 1121 00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:07,040 Speaker 2: Kevin, how did you. 1122 00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,239 Speaker 1: Feel when I saw the schedule that you had to 1123 00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:10,799 Speaker 1: go out to Seattle for a night. 1124 00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:11,719 Speaker 6: Game in the last week? 1125 00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:16,359 Speaker 10: Good question, Tony. Uh, yeah, that was surprising to us. 1126 00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:20,439 Speaker 10: Typically that third game you stay local. But why don't 1127 00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:24,120 Speaker 10: you hang out here on Monday with day with the 1128 00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,880 Speaker 10: games on Saturday, right, so we'll be pulling up Sunday 1129 00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:28,040 Speaker 10: morning around eight am. 1130 00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:29,399 Speaker 5: Why don't you hang out and ask me that question? 1131 00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:33,000 Speaker 5: Then you had some control over pre season games. 1132 00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:37,279 Speaker 2: Me too, keep a deal in some ways that I mean, 1133 00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,480 Speaker 2: is that toxi. 1134 00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:42,719 Speaker 10: No, it's Honestly, it's not a big deal. We're going 1135 00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:44,520 Speaker 10: out there a couple of days early. We'll get used 1136 00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:48,960 Speaker 10: to that time zone. Uh, We're listen, there are worse 1137 00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,800 Speaker 10: things in life. It's a nice plane that we're on, 1138 00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:52,680 Speaker 10: so it'll. 1139 00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,640 Speaker 5: Be fine as far as the Pima fish still to go. 1140 00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,959 Speaker 10: Yeah, So all of our starters should expect to play, 1141 00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:03,120 Speaker 10: and then will determine who does or doesn't how many 1142 00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:06,480 Speaker 10: plays they do. Like I told you guys, in particular 1143 00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,520 Speaker 10: with DeShawn, I want to take in all the information 1144 00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,719 Speaker 10: this week and really make a final determination later in. 1145 00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:16,960 Speaker 5: The week how much he's gonna find or if he's Yeah, 1146 00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:17,520 Speaker 5: I think both. 1147 00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:19,520 Speaker 10: I think like I told you guys, you know you 1148 00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,560 Speaker 10: have a plan, but you want to make sure as 1149 00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:23,320 Speaker 10: you get through the week that you feel good about it. 1150 00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:25,719 Speaker 5: So we'll make that determination later. 1151 00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:30,400 Speaker 9: If if it comes to pass that Jed isn't ready 1152 00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:34,880 Speaker 9: for Dallas, would you consider an emergency start for Btonio 1153 00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:35,640 Speaker 9: left tackle. 1154 00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:36,759 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1155 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:40,279 Speaker 10: I think those are all things that are speculative and 1156 00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:44,120 Speaker 10: for me, so I really not really concerned so much 1157 00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:47,480 Speaker 10: about Dallas right this minute. Obviously we've done a lot 1158 00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,040 Speaker 10: of work on them, but focused on Seattle. 1159 00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:50,399 Speaker 5: This week. 1160 00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,359 Speaker 2: I just say that Jermaine will be the first team 1161 00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:53,799 Speaker 2: left tackle. 1162 00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:55,800 Speaker 5: He'll get some work in there. Yes, what have you 1163 00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:56,359 Speaker 5: seen from him? 1164 00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,160 Speaker 6: And is there a comfort level given the fact that 1165 00:53:58,239 --> 00:53:59,440 Speaker 6: he started as many games. 1166 00:53:59,239 --> 00:53:59,640 Speaker 2: As he had. 1167 00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:01,279 Speaker 5: He does a nice job. 1168 00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,080 Speaker 10: He's really done a nice job since the moment he 1169 00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:08,000 Speaker 10: stepped foot on campus here, getting to understand our scheme. Obviously, 1170 00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:11,879 Speaker 10: familiarity with what we're doing, playing both right and left. 1171 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:16,080 Speaker 10: A tough, tough guy, plays hard, like a lot of 1172 00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:16,640 Speaker 10: things about him. 1173 00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:17,840 Speaker 2: Any update on. 1174 00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,839 Speaker 8: How close nhem Hines is to potential're returning for you guys. 1175 00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:23,399 Speaker 5: He's working very hard. 1176 00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,080 Speaker 10: I don't have a date for you guys with name, 1177 00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:29,719 Speaker 10: but works extremely hard. I get to watch him work. 1178 00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,040 Speaker 10: So he's doing well and progressing well. 1179 00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:33,680 Speaker 11: Kevin, Miles hard. 1180 00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,240 Speaker 12: And it just seems like has continued to make plays 1181 00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,360 Speaker 12: in practice, especially with Greg and Denzel and missing sometimes. 1182 00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:40,640 Speaker 2: What have you guys seen. 1183 00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:41,480 Speaker 4: From him so far? 1184 00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:43,800 Speaker 5: A very good young player. 1185 00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,279 Speaker 10: Has made some plays and practice, made some plays in 1186 00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,560 Speaker 10: these games, continuing to get better. 1187 00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:53,520 Speaker 5: Really fits in well with that group. So excited for Miles, Kevin. 1188 00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:55,560 Speaker 2: Where is where's Jack Conslon? 1189 00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,359 Speaker 5: At As far as maybe you're returning. 1190 00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,560 Speaker 2: To practice at some point, and also if he is 1191 00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:01,920 Speaker 2: able to get back, view him as strictly a right 1192 00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:03,640 Speaker 2: tackle or putting moveable outside. 1193 00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,879 Speaker 10: You know, Jack again, a guy who's worked extremely hard 1194 00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:11,960 Speaker 10: all off season continues to work hard. We'll see over 1195 00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,160 Speaker 10: the next you know, I'm really focused on today and 1196 00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,479 Speaker 10: where he is, but I can tell you he's doing 1197 00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:19,280 Speaker 10: everything and more to get ready to play. 1198 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,279 Speaker 2: And that just do you see him as guys to 1199 00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:22,560 Speaker 2: play both sides? Yeah? 1200 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,320 Speaker 10: Again, all of our guys kind of goes back to 1201 00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:25,960 Speaker 10: the previous question about versatility. 1202 00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:27,760 Speaker 5: It's important at that position. 1203 00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,760 Speaker 2: You need to see a significant more. 1204 00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:36,160 Speaker 3: Amount of Dorian and Tyler to decide what. 1205 00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:37,600 Speaker 6: You want to do with your third QUB. 1206 00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:41,280 Speaker 10: I think all of these practices, Mary kay, all the games, 1207 00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,640 Speaker 10: but just think about all the practices we've had going 1208 00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:47,200 Speaker 10: back to April. You're in constant evaluation mode with our guys, 1209 00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,880 Speaker 10: so everything that they get is valuable for me and 1210 00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,920 Speaker 10: them as well. So those are all determinations that will 1211 00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:58,239 Speaker 10: come later on. But really please with how those guys 1212 00:55:58,239 --> 00:55:58,800 Speaker 10: are progressing. 1213 00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,359 Speaker 2: See what's the timeline you hear, Coach there, as our 1214 00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:03,880 Speaker 2: guys are down at the far end starting to get 1215 00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,360 Speaker 2: warmed up here a little bit. What's the timeline on 1216 00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:12,640 Speaker 2: getting this roster locked in your final stuff? Now you've 1217 00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:14,320 Speaker 2: got some hell stuff you're working through. He kind of 1218 00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:16,160 Speaker 2: went through it yesterday in terms of how many things 1219 00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:17,680 Speaker 2: are kind of up for grab or not. But is 1220 00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:18,920 Speaker 2: it by Sunday morning? 1221 00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:23,240 Speaker 4: Well, the twenty the actual deadline is Tuesday, the twenty seventh. 1222 00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:26,120 Speaker 4: You've got to be down. Then waiver claims will run 1223 00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:29,480 Speaker 4: by at four pm. They'll be processed four pm on 1224 00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:33,360 Speaker 4: the twenty eighth next Wednesday. Okay, so you'll have the 1225 00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,200 Speaker 4: initial cut downs. Then you have the day of waiver claims. 1226 00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,600 Speaker 4: That'll be the first set because remember some people who 1227 00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:43,160 Speaker 4: make fifty threes will then be cut for waiver claims, right, 1228 00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,520 Speaker 4: and then you get My guess is you will also 1229 00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:49,360 Speaker 4: have some moves in the event that you want somebody 1230 00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,719 Speaker 4: on IR eligible to return, that you might carry some 1231 00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:54,320 Speaker 4: people into the season. 1232 00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:56,400 Speaker 2: On the roster. 1233 00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,919 Speaker 4: You know, some people stay on POP, like my guess, 1234 00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:01,640 Speaker 4: Nick Chub would be on the puppulace so he doesn't 1235 00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:03,319 Speaker 4: count again super three. But some people you will want 1236 00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:05,600 Speaker 4: on the fifty three, you'll then place them on IR. 1237 00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:07,839 Speaker 4: You'll then have you know, the wink weink, non nod 1238 00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,040 Speaker 4: deal with a vested veteran, I could think of like 1239 00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:12,880 Speaker 4: a Mohurst or Shelby Hair, somebody like that, where they 1240 00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,160 Speaker 4: cut them. But they're coming there on the roster basically. 1241 00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:20,400 Speaker 4: So I think you'll have that all by next Thursday. 1242 00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,720 Speaker 4: I think you'll be that'll be pretty close to the team. Now, 1243 00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:26,960 Speaker 4: it might the transactions might not take place until the 1244 00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:30,840 Speaker 4: following Monday. Yeah, so we'll say that the Monday of 1245 00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,360 Speaker 4: the Cowboys week, you will be. That will be your 1246 00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,400 Speaker 4: team that is getting ready to play them. It'll be 1247 00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:41,240 Speaker 4: probably set before that, but there might be some transactional 1248 00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:43,560 Speaker 4: moves that have to happen to make it a reality. 1249 00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,720 Speaker 6: So then I feel like cut down days at four 1250 00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:49,440 Speaker 6: o'clock a week from today. They'll probably be a late 1251 00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,320 Speaker 6: afternoon practice because usually guys are out of the building. 1252 00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:55,520 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be like this, brother, you are going to 1253 00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:57,400 Speaker 2: be well, you will have done it by then, It'll 1254 00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:58,840 Speaker 2: be done. It'll be I think. 1255 00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,040 Speaker 4: I think I take flight at three forty five, so 1256 00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:05,560 Speaker 4: it might be okay when next Tuesday next you haven't 1257 00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:06,160 Speaker 4: put in for that? 1258 00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:08,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, put the United States Navy. 1259 00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:11,280 Speaker 4: He's acting like he actually he doesn't even know what 1260 00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:14,160 Speaker 4: we're talking about. It was announced by the former secretary 1261 00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:15,560 Speaker 4: of the Navy on this program, like. 1262 00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:20,240 Speaker 6: Last inside the building, there's a process too. 1263 00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:24,160 Speaker 2: He does not filling out her processes. Gibbe. There's the 1264 00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:26,240 Speaker 2: process of filling out what and it involves me to 1265 00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:26,920 Speaker 2: make something. 1266 00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:30,440 Speaker 6: To you, a PTO request to you, and I believe 1267 00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,640 Speaker 6: to your boss, who then tells me, hey, by the way, 1268 00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,240 Speaker 6: Nathan's not going to be here this on this story. 1269 00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:37,720 Speaker 2: I told you, I know, but I'm not your ball 1270 00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:39,840 Speaker 2: the secretary. Well, then what are you complaining about that? 1271 00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,920 Speaker 2: Bret Rossy isn't coming over here. You're not going to 1272 00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:44,760 Speaker 2: be on the show, then I think I could be. 1273 00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:46,240 Speaker 2: I'm going to ask him. I'm going to be at 1274 00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:49,720 Speaker 2: the place from eleven am we gotta do a phone 1275 00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:54,000 Speaker 2: By the way, we're gonna be co hosting the show? Yeah, 1276 00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:55,280 Speaker 2: I think I can. I'm going to try to bring 1277 00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:58,200 Speaker 2: my contracts. I don't think so. I think you're gonna 1278 00:58:58,200 --> 00:58:58,520 Speaker 2: be going. 1279 00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:00,520 Speaker 4: To be at Burke Lake from from eleven until the 1280 00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:02,240 Speaker 4: time I fly with just three forty five. That feels 1281 00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,000 Speaker 4: like a long time. I feel like I'm gonna be 1282 00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:04,760 Speaker 4: going through some things. 1283 00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:06,680 Speaker 2: But you go through some process. They also the reason 1284 00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:08,440 Speaker 2: they're doing this is for the promotion of it, so 1285 00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:12,439 Speaker 2: like to be talking, I think it's pretty I don't 1286 00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:15,560 Speaker 2: remember that at all. Like you just said from eleven, 1287 00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:19,080 Speaker 2: I felt like I drove up my car, got out 1288 00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,960 Speaker 2: of it, got in, I went on. It was like 1289 00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:23,160 Speaker 2: a peage experience for you. 1290 00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:24,080 Speaker 5: It really was. 1291 00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,120 Speaker 2: I don't remember any of this, and I don't know 1292 00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:29,320 Speaker 2: if I've just blocked it out. That's it. I did that. 1293 00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,000 Speaker 6: I did that with the Golden Knights. I literally pulled 1294 00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:34,320 Speaker 6: up and we got to ride in the big plane. 1295 00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:36,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and they jumped out and I was like, hey, 1296 00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:40,280 Speaker 2: I'm right on the edge. You guys, enjoy yourselves. It's crazy. 1297 00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:43,840 Speaker 2: But I literally got out and got on with the 1298 00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,560 Speaker 2: same with the rocket truck. Here's your suit. Put it on. 1299 00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,800 Speaker 2: Any protocols, No, because if we crash, you're dead. You're 1300 00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:53,760 Speaker 2: dead already. We already have. You know they're gonna be video, 1301 00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,720 Speaker 2: some videos. There's there's a lot of fun playing already, 1302 00:59:57,120 --> 01:00:00,440 Speaker 2: very very fine. I just you know, there's there's a seizure. 1303 01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,560 Speaker 2: And I don't know if this is not a man 1304 01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:10,520 Speaker 2: who adheres the procedure by am I aware of everyone. Okay, 1305 01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:14,320 Speaker 2: I'm separate procedures. Let me just hold on second, but 1306 01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:19,920 Speaker 2: smirching me for outrage. This is earlier. You know, are 1307 01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:21,520 Speaker 2: you able to do this and this for me? Blah 1308 01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:21,960 Speaker 2: blah blah. 1309 01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:22,240 Speaker 5: Let me know. 1310 01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,840 Speaker 4: I said, yeah, man, whatever you need, I say back 1311 01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:27,000 Speaker 4: to whatever you need. And then he's like, thank you 1312 01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:29,360 Speaker 4: a public person. 1313 01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:31,960 Speaker 2: The first person smacking. 1314 01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:35,400 Speaker 6: I just said, I am not aware of a request 1315 01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:37,440 Speaker 6: for you to take the day off next Tuesday. It's 1316 01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:39,640 Speaker 6: a big day, it's cut down day. I'm not the 1317 01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:43,080 Speaker 6: day off. You'll be there, I think, I bet you are. 1318 01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:46,880 Speaker 2: I said present, no, no, no, no, And I'm not. 1319 01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:48,920 Speaker 2: Even when I'm not here, I'm working. I'm just a 1320 01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:52,520 Speaker 2: work I'm a workaholic. You're the front facing, the front 1321 01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,200 Speaker 2: face of the organization. 1322 01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:57,760 Speaker 4: Water And every time I'm when i'm not here, I'm 1323 01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:01,120 Speaker 4: watching tape, I'm talking people, I'm grinding, I'm trying to 1324 01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:01,520 Speaker 4: get better. 1325 01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:03,800 Speaker 2: I'm honing my craft. Easy seafood tower. 1326 01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:09,520 Speaker 4: By the way, you know who one of the beneficiaries 1327 01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:10,720 Speaker 4: of some of the things that I get to do. 1328 01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:12,640 Speaker 4: This guy right here, sir, give it. Look at a 1329 01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:14,400 Speaker 4: gift horse right in the mouth, right in the mouth. 1330 01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:18,000 Speaker 2: You don't do that. It's a Montana phrase. What don't 1331 01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:25,880 Speaker 2: look at gift horse in the mouth. It's a oh lordy, yeah, 1332 01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:27,720 Speaker 2: here you go, you got a little whatever. We're working 1333 01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:30,080 Speaker 2: on the new kickoff. Wait, here's something Winds playing a 1334 01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:32,200 Speaker 2: factory that is, here's something for you to think about. 1335 01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:38,960 Speaker 2: Do you think that the new kickoff rule will will 1336 01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:43,920 Speaker 2: make for more scoring in this league and that perhaps 1337 01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:49,080 Speaker 2: certain people have not yet adjusted to the realities of 1338 01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:53,040 Speaker 2: more points being scored by this kickoff rule. Yes, I 1339 01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:55,520 Speaker 2: don't know who those people would be, the people. 1340 01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:59,320 Speaker 4: Who do the segment we just did. Perhaps I think 1341 01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:01,400 Speaker 4: that'll be something it's played out. I think if it does, 1342 01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:03,200 Speaker 4: if that is in fact the case that you have 1343 01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:04,720 Speaker 4: all these now, I think they're going to be some 1344 01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:07,320 Speaker 4: there could be a recovery touchdown at some point this season. 1345 01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:07,920 Speaker 2: If somebody it's like. 1346 01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:09,880 Speaker 4: A little liner in the middle of the causes chaos. 1347 01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:13,080 Speaker 4: I do think you could be right about that. I 1348 01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:15,920 Speaker 4: also think that there will be an adjustment pretty quickly 1349 01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:18,280 Speaker 4: if this speak, If people are just going to the 1350 01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:21,000 Speaker 4: house left and right, where you see people just be like. 1351 01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:22,360 Speaker 2: All right, fine, we're just starting at the thirty. 1352 01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:22,520 Speaker 5: Now. 1353 01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:26,840 Speaker 4: The NFL has already said and with even if it 1354 01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:28,480 Speaker 4: becomes just a full out of the back of the 1355 01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:29,840 Speaker 4: end zone, they're not going to change it to the 1356 01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:32,640 Speaker 4: thirty five or there are no plans to at this time. 1357 01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:36,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's still the thirty versus the twenty five. 1358 01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:41,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, there was something yesterday that ESPN said like the 1359 01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:46,480 Speaker 6: league was actually contemplating already moving like the touchback. 1360 01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:48,160 Speaker 2: No, then they were they're not. 1361 01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,200 Speaker 6: Well, they announced they're not going to this year, but 1362 01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:53,440 Speaker 6: like that, there was already some discussion. 1363 01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:56,480 Speaker 4: Well, just I think they really want to have the 1364 01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:58,920 Speaker 4: kickoff and so they want to have the play they 1365 01:02:58,960 --> 01:02:59,560 Speaker 4: want to play. 1366 01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:02,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I you know, I don't know if you're 1367 01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:04,800 Speaker 2: gonna what do you make about You've seen two preseason 1368 01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:06,560 Speaker 2: games with us doing it? What do you what have 1369 01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:09,160 Speaker 2: you Have you seen anything that lead is that you 1370 01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:10,640 Speaker 2: feel could be a harbor durer things to come. 1371 01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:12,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like you even saw it just kind 1372 01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:14,240 Speaker 4: of on some pretty vanilla returns. You can still get 1373 01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:15,760 Speaker 4: out to the thirty seven. Like back in the day 1374 01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:18,160 Speaker 4: we started to drive to thirty seven, it felt like whoa, 1375 01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:22,280 Speaker 4: you know, So, yeah, I do think it's gonna It's 1376 01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:25,120 Speaker 4: gonna set up for the offense and make things more 1377 01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:27,600 Speaker 4: difficult on certainly on some defenses with field position. 1378 01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:28,280 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1379 01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:32,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's the expectation. Yeah, yeah, I think 1380 01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:33,360 Speaker 2: I think you're gonna get a little bit of that. 1381 01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:35,680 Speaker 2: I also saw yesterday we're making the comments about how 1382 01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:38,360 Speaker 2: Madden hasn't changed, how it still sucks from a passing standpoint. 1383 01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:40,080 Speaker 2: And then yeah, one of our loyal listeners said that 1384 01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:44,720 Speaker 2: they are bringing the college passing system to the toh 1385 01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:49,200 Speaker 2: which would be great because apparently it's happening soon, so 1386 01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:50,760 Speaker 2: that would be huge. I don't know why they didn't 1387 01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:52,440 Speaker 2: just load. They're just gonna patch it up in the 1388 01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:54,880 Speaker 2: middle of the season. Yeah, or maybe maybe it's an 1389 01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:58,400 Speaker 2: option you can play with the college passing system. I 1390 01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:01,720 Speaker 2: would love that. Yeah, it's Yeah, then you go twenty 1391 01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:06,400 Speaker 2: four to thirty six instead of twenty of thirty with 1392 01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:10,840 Speaker 2: five interceptions and six touchdowns, which is what happens now. Yeah, 1393 01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:14,880 Speaker 2: you throw fifty touchdowns, you have forty eight picks. It's crazy. 1394 01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:17,040 Speaker 2: Let the ball hit the ground, kids a little bit, 1395 01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:17,760 Speaker 2: get hurt. 1396 01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:20,560 Speaker 4: I'd like to think you're like, if you're throwing fifty picks, 1397 01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:22,840 Speaker 4: you're at one hundred and fifty touchdowns. 1398 01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:24,200 Speaker 5: In Madden. 1399 01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:27,040 Speaker 2: Oh baby, I'm not at one hundred and fifty. Spread 1400 01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:30,240 Speaker 2: it out and let's go. It's a lot of picks, Jordan. 1401 01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:32,160 Speaker 2: That is what I do on offense. He seem me 1402 01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:33,120 Speaker 2: be diabolical. 1403 01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:37,160 Speaker 4: What's the operation? Just throw it and just win. Just 1404 01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:39,160 Speaker 4: you never know where the ball is going, but it's 1405 01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:41,520 Speaker 4: going somewhere. And don't you come try to press my 1406 01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:43,440 Speaker 4: stud I saw you try to do that at the 1407 01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:45,360 Speaker 4: top of the screen of came a little press coverage. 1408 01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:47,680 Speaker 2: Make itet see hers bro touch down, got him right 1409 01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:51,160 Speaker 2: over the top, got him, got him that easy? Got 1410 01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:54,000 Speaker 2: it all right? There you go. All right, we are 1411 01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:57,160 Speaker 2: doing some special team stuff out here. We'll continue to 1412 01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:59,960 Speaker 2: paint those pictures for you. You're listening to the second 1413 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,240 Speaker 2: hour of Cleveland Browns Daily on a fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1414 01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:16,200 Speaker 1: This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by Bally 1415 01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:19,720 Speaker 1: bed Now Live in Ohio, Live from Brown's training camp 1416 01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:23,120 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four at the Cross Country Mortgage Campus in Barrie, Ohio. 1417 01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:26,680 Speaker 8: Here again are Beaux Bishop and Nathan Zegura. 1418 01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:29,400 Speaker 5: To you a bit. 1419 01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:32,160 Speaker 2: Lawyers syndicated every client every day called one hundred elk 1420 01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:36,560 Speaker 2: Ohio ELK Elk is a proud partner of your Cleveland Browns. 1421 01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:40,200 Speaker 2: Are guys getting warmed up out here, individual groups kind 1422 01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:42,040 Speaker 2: of working through a little bit of brief warm up here. 1423 01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:43,400 Speaker 2: We've see they do about the same thing every day. 1424 01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:45,280 Speaker 2: I see the same quarterback effort down here, and then 1425 01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:47,560 Speaker 2: the receivers here in front of us, to get loose 1426 01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:49,080 Speaker 2: before we get into some one on ones would be 1427 01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:49,960 Speaker 2: my guest doctor Z. 1428 01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:52,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you could see some one on ones 1429 01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:54,520 Speaker 4: or we get into some seven on seven. We've already 1430 01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:57,000 Speaker 4: seen some special teams. What I'm looking at here right 1431 01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:59,680 Speaker 4: now with the receiving group is I do not see Amari. 1432 01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:03,640 Speaker 4: He is not coaching that from several that he is out. 1433 01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:05,240 Speaker 4: In fact, I have a list for. 1434 01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:07,520 Speaker 2: You, buddy. Didn't coach say that he was going to 1435 01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:11,840 Speaker 2: practice today? No, I think you said they're doing better. Okay. 1436 01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:15,080 Speaker 4: I saw him come out and it looked like he 1437 01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:17,000 Speaker 4: was actually in the jersey, but I didn't see him 1438 01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:19,120 Speaker 4: with the helet. But I don't even I don't have 1439 01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:20,520 Speaker 4: eyes on him right now. 1440 01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:26,840 Speaker 2: Not practicing today, Coop Chief Hewlett, Hickman, Tony Brown, done right, 1441 01:06:27,200 --> 01:06:32,760 Speaker 2: Watson Hudson, what right? 1442 01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:33,040 Speaker 5: Who? 1443 01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:34,520 Speaker 2: Nathaniel right? 1444 01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:34,800 Speaker 5: Oh? 1445 01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:39,320 Speaker 2: Nathanielaniel Nathaniel Watson. Sorry, yeh yeh yeh whoqy Watson Nathaniel Watson. 1446 01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:44,959 Speaker 2: And so Fields is back. You've got all your running 1447 01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:47,680 Speaker 2: Your running back room is healthy obviously outside of Nick Chubb. 1448 01:06:48,280 --> 01:06:50,680 Speaker 2: Your linebacker room is getting healthier now that you've got 1449 01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:53,920 Speaker 2: Fields back. What about Hicks? Was he on that list 1450 01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:54,840 Speaker 2: that you read He was not. 1451 01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:55,480 Speaker 7: He's not. 1452 01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:59,240 Speaker 2: Now that could have been an early list too, Like 1453 01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:01,480 Speaker 2: you don't know if it's complete. I'm just looking for 1454 01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:07,000 Speaker 2: the linebackers. Those are the safeties. So still no d 1455 01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:10,080 Speaker 2: Anthony Bell, still no Hickman, and it's it's getting late early, 1456 01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:15,080 Speaker 2: yeah it is still. Uh, I'm looking for the linebackers. 1457 01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:28,240 Speaker 2: But obviously no Denzel, No Denzel there there's m J. Yeah, 1458 01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:28,919 Speaker 2: he's not in the mix. 1459 01:07:29,040 --> 01:07:32,240 Speaker 4: I think Denzel's that's not Denzel is going to be 1460 01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:39,360 Speaker 4: just fine. Yeah, yeah, Look, you're getting ready to it. 1461 01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:41,440 Speaker 4: It's one of those I'd like to at least have 1462 01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:45,920 Speaker 4: you know, two weeks of everybody out there playing. You know, 1463 01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:48,360 Speaker 4: everybody that's going to be out there getting in together. Now, 1464 01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:53,760 Speaker 4: what we don't, what we're not privy to are the 1465 01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:56,440 Speaker 4: walkthroughs and things that are happening there, and I think 1466 01:07:56,480 --> 01:08:00,240 Speaker 4: that those probably are higher attended or high have a 1467 01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:02,800 Speaker 4: higher participation than perhaps these practices. 1468 01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:05,520 Speaker 6: Do it this way and next week, you know, the 1469 01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:08,840 Speaker 6: media and us included. I mean, we won't be out 1470 01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:11,680 Speaker 6: here for the entire day, right right, you know, next 1471 01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:16,040 Speaker 6: week they'll practice Tuesday, Wednesday, I think Thursday they'll practice 1472 01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:19,960 Speaker 6: as well, maybe in the morning. And then remember it's 1473 01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:24,400 Speaker 6: it's basically a mandated NFL weekend off unless you're playing early. 1474 01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:27,080 Speaker 6: It's like Friday, Saturday, Sunday, you're off. 1475 01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:29,120 Speaker 2: This is the It's so funny. I was starting to 1476 01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:31,640 Speaker 2: one of my buddies who's in the front office at 1477 01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:33,920 Speaker 2: Ohio State, and they were saying like, I'm like, so, 1478 01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:36,719 Speaker 2: how are the what's the uh the sideline pass situation 1479 01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:38,640 Speaker 2: look like for Akron? And he's like, dude, do you 1480 01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:40,360 Speaker 2: kid me? And I'm like no, I'm curious, like, is 1481 01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:42,960 Speaker 2: anybody going anybody using them? He's like, we're sold out. 1482 01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:46,559 Speaker 2: Everybody's coming home because the whole league is off. Oh. 1483 01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:48,559 Speaker 2: He's like, we're gonna have one hundred and ten Buckeye 1484 01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:52,519 Speaker 2: players on the sidelines for the actor game because all 1485 01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:54,320 Speaker 2: of them are going home. Every Buck it's the one 1486 01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:56,320 Speaker 2: weekend where they can all get home. Yeah, so it's 1487 01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:59,080 Speaker 2: like homecoming. It's become basically a homecoming week in the 1488 01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:00,479 Speaker 2: NFL football. 1489 01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:03,040 Speaker 4: So I do not I have eyes on the linebackers, 1490 01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:04,800 Speaker 4: and I do not see Jordan Hicks out there. I 1491 01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:11,880 Speaker 4: see jok Tony Fields, Bush, the Abati Honeycut Reid, and 1492 01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:15,080 Speaker 4: Caleb Johnson, but I do not see Hicks at this time. 1493 01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:19,439 Speaker 2: There you go in terms of who we can nothing official, 1494 01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:22,280 Speaker 2: but just with our visually see participation, can see and 1495 01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:24,800 Speaker 2: who is not here as we go around the league, 1496 01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:27,799 Speaker 2: presented by Lead Filter, the official gutter Guard your Cleveland Browns. 1497 01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:30,519 Speaker 2: There are three NFL teams who have not declared a 1498 01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:34,760 Speaker 2: starting quarterback for Week one, the Broncos, the Steelers, and 1499 01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:36,559 Speaker 2: the Patriots. Silding up the Steelers. 1500 01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:38,800 Speaker 6: So let me give you last night we watched this game. 1501 01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:39,479 Speaker 2: I was at a bar. 1502 01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:43,360 Speaker 6: Okay, it was Bill Squeelers Okay, ninety three. 1503 01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:47,639 Speaker 2: The final score you have Bills, both Fields and Russ 1504 01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:48,559 Speaker 2: did not look great. 1505 01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:53,120 Speaker 6: Fields eleven of seventeen for ninety two. Russ eight of 1506 01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:55,599 Speaker 6: ten for forty seven, was sacked three times. 1507 01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:58,680 Speaker 2: And I saw Orlovsky with a really good breakdown eight 1508 01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:02,559 Speaker 2: of ten for forty. Did you see Orlovsky's breakdown of Russ. 1509 01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:06,200 Speaker 2: I did not, So Mike Tomlin was talking about that, 1510 01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:09,240 Speaker 2: you know, how do you run the operation? And one 1511 01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:12,280 Speaker 2: of the things that Orlovsky said that Russ has become 1512 01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:14,000 Speaker 2: because you see eight of eleven and you go, well, 1513 01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:16,960 Speaker 2: that's really accurate. So basically, he went over a simple 1514 01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:20,439 Speaker 2: play where they've got a receiver on the left side 1515 01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:24,120 Speaker 2: running kind of like a flat out. Okay, they've got 1516 01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:25,920 Speaker 2: a receiver, they got a tight end over the middle 1517 01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:28,840 Speaker 2: running a hook, and they got a receiver on the 1518 01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:31,720 Speaker 2: other side, and it's a He called it a very 1519 01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:33,200 Speaker 2: a play you see all the time, and he said, 1520 01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:36,320 Speaker 2: look on this against this coverage. Rus knows the coverage 1521 01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:39,280 Speaker 2: and this is a throw to the curl every time, 1522 01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:41,439 Speaker 2: and it's a gain of eight. The curl is open 1523 01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:43,920 Speaker 2: every time. He clears the linebackers and he sits in, 1524 01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:46,080 Speaker 2: creates a pocket, sits down in front of the zone 1525 01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:50,720 Speaker 2: and catches it. Russ before that developed, he threw the 1526 01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:54,439 Speaker 2: flat and they gained three. Yep. He goes, this is 1527 01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:58,439 Speaker 2: a complete pass. That's the wrong throw. And so what 1528 01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:00,320 Speaker 2: he was saying is is that This is what's happened 1529 01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:03,080 Speaker 2: with Russ that over the last few years he's become 1530 01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:08,160 Speaker 2: this guy. Remember let Russ cook deep bombs spots now 1531 01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:11,880 Speaker 2: in order to minimize mistake. He is making the easy 1532 01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:15,880 Speaker 2: pass way too often and so it's not dangerous, it's 1533 01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:19,760 Speaker 2: all short. It's underneath and so that's where the ball 1534 01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:22,599 Speaker 2: he holds the ball. That's where the frustration is coming 1535 01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:25,160 Speaker 2: from with Russ. So like the idea that he hasn't 1536 01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:27,200 Speaker 2: been named the starter though, especially how rough has has 1537 01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:30,680 Speaker 2: been for Fields from what it's brutal, ten days off 1538 01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:32,200 Speaker 2: to a good start and then to fill off a cliff. 1539 01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:34,400 Speaker 2: It's pretty stunning to be It leads me to believe 1540 01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:39,120 Speaker 2: that maybe maybe they're tantalized by fields physical gifts and 1541 01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:41,400 Speaker 2: they're hoping that he makes some strides. I don't know, 1542 01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:44,000 Speaker 2: but I will say this, I think it means they 1543 01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:45,320 Speaker 2: don't feel like they have a starting court. 1544 01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:50,000 Speaker 6: They I don't know about their receiving corps and what 1545 01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:51,280 Speaker 6: and Friar move. 1546 01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:56,320 Speaker 4: All the more reason that's it the Johnson, It's Calvin Austens, 1547 01:11:56,400 --> 01:12:01,240 Speaker 4: Fitzpatrick Connor, Hayward Van Jefferson, all the more reason why 1548 01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:03,800 Speaker 4: Fields would give them something Russ doesn't in that he 1549 01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:06,320 Speaker 4: is a dynamic runner like Fields could run for eight 1550 01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:09,920 Speaker 4: hundred yards this year starting seventeen if he started fifteen games. 1551 01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:13,639 Speaker 2: They're playing that. If that's there, that's gimmick offense. They're 1552 01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:16,120 Speaker 2: going to be bad. Yeah, that's a gimmicky way to 1553 01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:18,360 Speaker 2: go about it. They took. If they don't, this would 1554 01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:20,800 Speaker 2: be my thing if i'm them, If I don't have 1555 01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:23,439 Speaker 2: a quarterback, then I would just roll the dice with 1556 01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:26,680 Speaker 2: Fields the whole way and see if something comes of it, 1557 01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:29,360 Speaker 2: Because there is no reason to play Russell Wilson. If 1558 01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:32,519 Speaker 2: Russell hasn't separated, he's not the quarterback of the future. 1559 01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:36,760 Speaker 2: It's diminishing return. Maybe you unlock something with Fields along 1560 01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:39,320 Speaker 2: the way. I would see no reason of playing Wilson 1561 01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:42,719 Speaker 2: at all if he hasn't, if it's not abundantly clear 1562 01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:45,040 Speaker 2: that he's absolutely the guy, then I would roll with 1563 01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:46,759 Speaker 2: Fields and hope for the best. Yeah, you can always 1564 01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:49,479 Speaker 2: bring Wilson in. I'm with you. I agree. 1565 01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:54,200 Speaker 6: I think it's interesting like Jalen Warren had one carry. 1566 01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:57,439 Speaker 4: Well, they're probably saving him. I mean, I think this 1567 01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:00,160 Speaker 4: is Arthur Smith. Now they're gonna run the ball a 1568 01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:03,200 Speaker 4: ton with nause. So they may like Russ and that 1569 01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:06,680 Speaker 4: he's not gonna do anything great, but he's also not gonna. 1570 01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:12,040 Speaker 2: You know. I mean he had Mariota starting for a 1571 01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:16,080 Speaker 2: while in Atlanta with him. Yeah, that that could be. 1572 01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:18,360 Speaker 2: I mean that's what Arthur wants for sure. So maybe 1573 01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:21,760 Speaker 2: that's the operation there. Broncos gotta go with Nicks, don't they. 1574 01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:28,240 Speaker 4: Who's even competing with Stidham? Yeah, I wouldn't play the kid? 1575 01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:30,360 Speaker 2: Why not? I say, I would agree with that? And 1576 01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:33,439 Speaker 2: then the other who's the other one? Uh? Patriots? I 1577 01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:36,320 Speaker 2: mean that's you gotta play trade Drake May I think 1578 01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:41,519 Speaker 2: you do. Obviously. We we love Jacoby here, but you 1579 01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:43,680 Speaker 2: also who's he throwing to? 1580 01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:46,360 Speaker 4: Like, you can't just play the kid and put him 1581 01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:48,880 Speaker 4: in a situation that's gonna give them bad habits and 1582 01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:50,519 Speaker 4: bad vibes and bad memories. 1583 01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:53,160 Speaker 2: It's very easily. I don't know their offensive line situation, 1584 01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:55,080 Speaker 2: but I know I don't. I know they don't even 1585 01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:57,000 Speaker 2: they don't have much on the outside at all. So 1586 01:13:57,200 --> 01:14:00,200 Speaker 2: I who's their number one receiver? By the wait? 1587 01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:03,759 Speaker 6: Denver's QBS going back to Denver bow Nicks, Jared Stidham, 1588 01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:06,479 Speaker 6: Zach Wilson go ahead and just start him. I don't 1589 01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:07,840 Speaker 6: know what what you're doing. 1590 01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:13,320 Speaker 4: They at least have ye Scortland, Sutton, They've got they 1591 01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:16,519 Speaker 4: have some actual receivers. There's Greg Newsome out there. So 1592 01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:18,360 Speaker 4: there are a lot of people David Bell not practicing 1593 01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:21,400 Speaker 4: still by the way, walking around. Uh Kevin Arnold, who's 1594 01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:25,559 Speaker 4: spending the dials for us? Back at the ranch listen 1595 01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:28,160 Speaker 4: back Coach said Cooper was going to practice today. 1596 01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:31,519 Speaker 2: That's what I saw. That is that really did happen? 1597 01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:34,320 Speaker 2: That's what I thought, Yeah, well he ain't. 1598 01:14:35,000 --> 01:14:38,639 Speaker 6: No, Drake May is going up against Jacoby Brissett, Joe 1599 01:14:38,880 --> 01:14:40,679 Speaker 6: Milton the Third and Bailey's Apple. 1600 01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:42,360 Speaker 2: Who are there? Are you on their deputy? Who are there? 1601 01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:43,520 Speaker 2: Give me their receivers? 1602 01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:52,680 Speaker 6: Javon Baker, Kawan Baker, Kendrick Bourne, kashawnt lsu sure do, 1603 01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:59,800 Speaker 6: Mario Douglas, Jalen Hurd, Jacque Jackson, kJ Osborne, Jalen. 1604 01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:06,000 Speaker 2: Polk j drafted this year Walls. I mean, that's that 1605 01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:10,920 Speaker 2: could borderline mushroom into a Bryce situation. What Bryce love, 1606 01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:14,000 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. So I don't think you can. 1607 01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:17,120 Speaker 2: You got to be careful with that. You could have 1608 01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:19,640 Speaker 2: you could have Jacoby go out there and suffer the 1609 01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:22,560 Speaker 2: slings and arrows and then bring may on later in 1610 01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:24,880 Speaker 2: the season, which is I think that's what you might 1611 01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:28,400 Speaker 2: have to do. Read habits. Man can go quick, it 1612 01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:30,720 Speaker 2: can go quick. You guys saw that the sound with 1613 01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:37,679 Speaker 2: uh yeah, I mean when you see that go ahead, 1614 01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:43,479 Speaker 2: it's it's a it's a strange approach, man. 1615 01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:46,040 Speaker 4: You have to I think one thing that's very important, 1616 01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:47,599 Speaker 4: and you touch to a lot of the coaches here 1617 01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:49,120 Speaker 4: who have a great deal of respect for is that 1618 01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:52,519 Speaker 4: you have to figure out how to You can't coach 1619 01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:55,759 Speaker 4: every player the same way, and you need to understand 1620 01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:59,400 Speaker 4: how to reach particular players. And I don't see what 1621 01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:02,160 Speaker 4: was deductive in any way about what Flores was doing. 1622 01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:06,080 Speaker 2: So, just for those who don't know, Tuo was on 1623 01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:10,400 Speaker 2: Dan Levittard's show yesterday or the day before, and he 1624 01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:13,560 Speaker 2: asked him what's the biggest difference between Mike McDaniel and 1625 01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:17,240 Speaker 2: Brian Flores and TWOA gave this incredibly eloquent answer where 1626 01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:20,599 Speaker 2: he talks about, well, just imagine if you were told 1627 01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:23,200 Speaker 2: you suck, you don't deserve this, you haven't worked for this, 1628 01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:25,639 Speaker 2: you haven't earned this, over and over and over again. 1629 01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:29,200 Speaker 2: How would that affect every day versus this is You're 1630 01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:31,600 Speaker 2: made for this, this is designed for you, this is 1631 01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:33,880 Speaker 2: everything we've ever wanted. This offense is perfect, and he 1632 01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:36,560 Speaker 2: goes that's the difference in the two. So you see that. 1633 01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:39,840 Speaker 2: Somebody compared it to you watch The Bear season three. 1634 01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:42,360 Speaker 2: I didn't watch season three. Okay, well season. 1635 01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:44,240 Speaker 4: Three is very good, but Joel McHale I think there 1636 01:16:44,240 --> 01:16:46,200 Speaker 4: are flashbacks either in the previous season. 1637 01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:48,519 Speaker 2: But anyway, is was an executive chef at one of 1638 01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:52,479 Speaker 2: the restaurants that Krmie was coming up through and basically 1639 01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:58,080 Speaker 2: was Brian Flores like, you suck? Yeah, just NonStop? Just 1640 01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:00,560 Speaker 2: was there ever a payoff of the other side or 1641 01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:03,559 Speaker 2: was it always just you suck? No, always you suck? 1642 01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:06,720 Speaker 4: And then they have like a he's made it and 1643 01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:08,800 Speaker 4: they have like a confrontation at the end that goes 1644 01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:11,599 Speaker 4: it's unreal, it's very well. 1645 01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:13,920 Speaker 2: Do you want to hear that audio? Yeah, we've got 1646 01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:14,920 Speaker 2: the audio. You like it? 1647 01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:19,599 Speaker 12: Kevin one second closed out for some reason, no worries, 1648 01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:22,559 Speaker 12: but I do have it from they played it actually 1649 01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:25,120 Speaker 12: today and there's a Brian Flores response as well. 1650 01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:26,960 Speaker 2: If you guys would love to hear that, Yeah, Yeah, 1651 01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:29,280 Speaker 2: let's hear it all in real time. 1652 01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:31,839 Speaker 4: I mean, people have a lot of respect for Brian Flores, 1653 01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:35,240 Speaker 4: but that sounds very much like mentality. 1654 01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:44,280 Speaker 2: Where did Brian Flores come from? What is a hallmark 1655 01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:46,200 Speaker 2: of Bill Belichick's coaching style. 1656 01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:50,240 Speaker 4: Definitely tough on your toughest guys. But I think he 1657 01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:53,080 Speaker 4: was tougher on Brady and public in front of the 1658 01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:54,920 Speaker 4: team than he wasn't necessarily in private. 1659 01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:58,839 Speaker 2: This sounds to me more like private, not for Flores 1660 01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:02,280 Speaker 2: wouldn't have been privy to the those conversations the Belichick 1661 01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:05,160 Speaker 2: had with Brady, And I think I think the thing 1662 01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:09,920 Speaker 2: to remember about this is this the magic of New England. 1663 01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:15,760 Speaker 2: It's Brady like. He took it. Ye took it. He 1664 01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:17,880 Speaker 2: was willing to take it. He took less money so 1665 01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:21,040 Speaker 2: their team could be better. He took the criticism publicly 1666 01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:22,800 Speaker 2: in front of the whole team. I've talked to a 1667 01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:24,400 Speaker 2: bunch of guys who have played for the Patriots. You 1668 01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:27,040 Speaker 2: have to They all say, you cannot believe like he 1669 01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:31,559 Speaker 2: can talk to Brady that way that way, You gotta 1670 01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:34,120 Speaker 2: be Kidney. So I'm so definitely talk to me that way. 1671 01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:36,120 Speaker 2: So you have to have something like Tom who's willing 1672 01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:38,400 Speaker 2: to take it? Okay, now have the Tom conversation. Where'd 1673 01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:41,599 Speaker 2: Tom come from? Tom wasn't the ballet hoooed quarterback at Michigan. 1674 01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:45,960 Speaker 2: Drew Henson was the ballot hoooed quarterback at Michigan. Tom's 1675 01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:46,720 Speaker 2: a six round pick. 1676 01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:48,759 Speaker 6: My buddy stole Drewson's girlfriend. 1677 01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:52,519 Speaker 2: Tom, that's an incredible pull out of your buddy showed 1678 01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:54,640 Speaker 2: up at our party. My buddy swooped in and took her. 1679 01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:59,240 Speaker 2: That's an incredible drop in dynamite dropping. But then Brady 1680 01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:01,080 Speaker 2: goes to the Patriot. What is he? He's a six 1681 01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:02,880 Speaker 2: round pick? Is he supposed to be in anything to 1682 01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:03,519 Speaker 2: Drew Brees? 1683 01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:03,920 Speaker 5: No? 1684 01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:07,679 Speaker 2: So what's Brady? He's used to being browbeaten? Yep. Okay, 1685 01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:12,800 Speaker 2: to your point, you can't talk to everybody the same, right, Okay, 1686 01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:15,479 Speaker 2: Like this is totally no, this is not that hard. 1687 01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:18,320 Speaker 2: I have one more thought on this, but you can 1688 01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:19,760 Speaker 2: hear it if you want to listen to it. This 1689 01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:21,960 Speaker 2: is to on Leviatard Show. 1690 01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:25,200 Speaker 11: To put it in simplest terms, if you woke up 1691 01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:28,280 Speaker 11: every morning and I told you you suck at what 1692 01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:31,400 Speaker 11: you did, that you don't belong doing what you. 1693 01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:36,360 Speaker 2: Do, that you shouldn't be here, that this guy should 1694 01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:38,559 Speaker 2: be here, that you haven't earned this right. 1695 01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:41,599 Speaker 11: And then you have somebody else come in and tell you, dude, 1696 01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:45,040 Speaker 11: you are the best fit for this, like you are accurate, 1697 01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:47,720 Speaker 11: you are the best whatever you are, this you are that. 1698 01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:50,560 Speaker 11: How would it make you feel listening to one or 1699 01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:53,240 Speaker 11: the other? And you hear it more and more you 1700 01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:55,640 Speaker 11: start to actually believe that, I don't care who you are, 1701 01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:58,080 Speaker 11: you can be the president of the United States. You 1702 01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:01,920 Speaker 11: have a terrible person that's telling you things that you 1703 01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:05,719 Speaker 11: don't want to hear or that you probably shouldn't be hearing. 1704 01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:07,880 Speaker 11: You're gonna start to believe that about yourself. And so 1705 01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:09,880 Speaker 11: that's sort of like what ended up happening. 1706 01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:12,439 Speaker 2: So Brian Flores has a response to. 1707 01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:16,640 Speaker 12: This yes from the I Am Athlete podcast. 1708 01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:18,719 Speaker 2: Okay, so here's Flora's response. 1709 01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:24,759 Speaker 13: This is this is an interesting topic because it wasn't strained. 1710 01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:29,600 Speaker 13: We had a good relationship. It was a player coach relationship, 1711 01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:32,040 Speaker 13: and I think in a relationship like that, you know, 1712 01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:35,360 Speaker 13: the coach challenges the player, and oftentimes the player challenges 1713 01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:37,400 Speaker 13: the coach. I think there was a great deal of 1714 01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:40,639 Speaker 13: respect between the two of us. So you hear these 1715 01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:44,920 Speaker 13: crazy kind of this narrative that's out there. But this 1716 01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:49,559 Speaker 13: is a young man who works, who developed and got 1717 01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:53,200 Speaker 13: better over two years, and you know, I think he's 1718 01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:56,840 Speaker 13: got a you know, a bright future. I wish him 1719 01:20:56,880 --> 01:20:57,280 Speaker 13: all the best. 1720 01:20:57,960 --> 01:20:59,719 Speaker 2: Okay, it's not narrative. Okay. 1721 01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:03,200 Speaker 4: And he did his first person account that wasn't addressing 1722 01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:06,080 Speaker 4: in any way. I don't think what was actually said right, 1723 01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:11,800 Speaker 4: It was his experience, and it sounds like he didn't 1724 01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:15,280 Speaker 4: think you guys had a great relationship as a player 1725 01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:17,760 Speaker 4: and a coach there. So yeah, I would agree that 1726 01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:23,840 Speaker 4: I found that an interesting descriptor of or answer or 1727 01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:26,759 Speaker 4: retort or rebuttal to what actually did happen. 1728 01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:27,479 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1729 01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:31,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, and to me that that he didn't deny anything. 1730 01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:35,599 Speaker 4: He also kind of basically said that, well, he got 1731 01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:37,800 Speaker 4: better and so it worked. 1732 01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:41,000 Speaker 2: Who in the league currently do you think still has 1733 01:21:41,080 --> 01:21:48,479 Speaker 2: that approach, like that hard nosed football browbeat approach. Who 1734 01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:50,760 Speaker 2: in the league still does it that way? I don't 1735 01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:52,760 Speaker 2: know if anybody does. I don't think anybody does. I 1736 01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:55,360 Speaker 2: would run around it this morning, and I'm like, now 1737 01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:57,360 Speaker 2: i'd be candid with you, like, I don't know Rahee 1738 01:21:57,439 --> 01:21:59,680 Speaker 2: Morris's approach. I don't. I don't know that. No, so 1739 01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:05,480 Speaker 2: it's possible. But there are so many Kyle McVeigh disciples 1740 01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:07,920 Speaker 2: out there, and none of them have that style, none 1741 01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:08,160 Speaker 2: of them. 1742 01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:08,360 Speaker 5: No. 1743 01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:09,960 Speaker 4: And I would go so far as to say that 1744 01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:12,960 Speaker 4: that was a nice Dante form I like Deontay Forman. 1745 01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:17,400 Speaker 4: I'd go so far as to say that you would 1746 01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:20,080 Speaker 4: perceive right that the answer that would be Dan Campbell. 1747 01:22:20,160 --> 01:22:23,479 Speaker 4: But anything you've ever seen of Dan Campbell is opposite. 1748 01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:26,720 Speaker 4: He is in your face, but like a lot of love, 1749 01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:28,080 Speaker 4: like a lot of loving. 1750 01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:30,799 Speaker 2: The guy's up and No, I use the Dan Campbell 1751 01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:32,760 Speaker 2: example this morning the exact way you just did. 1752 01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:33,200 Speaker 5: Like it. 1753 01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:36,400 Speaker 2: That's people would say him because he's football guy, but 1754 01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:40,400 Speaker 2: that's exactly that's definitely not his tone. No, isn't that 1755 01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:43,680 Speaker 2: at all? So there aren't many of them. The other 1756 01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:48,960 Speaker 2: thing I thought of is how silly some of these 1757 01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:52,880 Speaker 2: coaches are with rookie quarterbacks. And I thought of Hugh 1758 01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:57,000 Speaker 2: with Bake, and how ridiculous that was some of that. 1759 01:22:57,240 --> 01:23:00,280 Speaker 2: And we see this like there are still this thing 1760 01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:03,480 Speaker 2: of like not knowing how to handle a rookie quarterback, 1761 01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:06,599 Speaker 2: and the younger generation handles him better. I think Zach 1762 01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:08,800 Speaker 2: Taylor is a great example of handling them better down 1763 01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:12,720 Speaker 2: in Cincinnati. Sure, but I mean even Kyle with Perdy, Like, 1764 01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:14,280 Speaker 2: there's a lot of them that where it's pretty good, 1765 01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:17,120 Speaker 2: but where they instead of saying, hey, you have to 1766 01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:19,840 Speaker 2: be this, we'll make this what works for you. There's 1767 01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:22,320 Speaker 2: more and more of that now so it is easier. 1768 01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:24,879 Speaker 2: But there was a while where like how many quarterbacks 1769 01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:26,719 Speaker 2: were ruined just by obtuse coaches? 1770 01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:30,880 Speaker 4: Oh, numerous, too many to count for sure. By the way, 1771 01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:33,720 Speaker 4: nice little pass rush there, little Zadarius Smith as the 1772 01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:35,560 Speaker 4: Browns had some nice runs, good mix of the of 1773 01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:38,000 Speaker 4: the offense and defense. These are ones on ones right now, 1774 01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:40,000 Speaker 4: which you don't have to see a ton which is 1775 01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:44,240 Speaker 4: fun to see right now. Actually, no, I think you're right. 1776 01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:46,920 Speaker 4: But there's also the comments in this week. Brady just 1777 01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:49,960 Speaker 4: talked about how important it was for guys to be 1778 01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:53,160 Speaker 4: able to sit and learn and how valuable that is. 1779 01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:55,000 Speaker 4: So I think that I don't know if there's any 1780 01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:57,400 Speaker 4: right answer, and I think it's more of instead of 1781 01:23:57,439 --> 01:23:58,880 Speaker 4: there is one way to do it, I think it's 1782 01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:01,600 Speaker 4: much more about the individual, what their aptitude is, what 1783 01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:05,519 Speaker 4: the surrounding set of circumstances are Do you have a 1784 01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:08,000 Speaker 4: good offensive line. Do you have some skill position talent 1785 01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:10,920 Speaker 4: that that they can take advantage of? Do you, you know, 1786 01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:14,320 Speaker 4: are you running concepts to your point? Are you tailoring 1787 01:24:14,360 --> 01:24:17,880 Speaker 4: things to the player and what accentuates their strength and 1788 01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:20,439 Speaker 4: limits their weaknesses, or are you trying to say this 1789 01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:23,640 Speaker 4: is how we do everything. Now Kyle is probably a 1790 01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:26,200 Speaker 4: lot more this is how we do it, and if 1791 01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:29,360 Speaker 4: you're good at understanding what he wants and executing it, 1792 01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:32,080 Speaker 4: you can be really really successful. I mean, Jimmy Garoppolo 1793 01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:34,799 Speaker 4: with Kyle and Jimmy Garppolo without Kyle is very different. 1794 01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:38,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah. And I do think it's interesting 1795 01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:41,599 Speaker 2: that that Brady said it's good to sit and wait 1796 01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:46,200 Speaker 2: while Manning said play and play, because that's their two experiences. Yep, 1797 01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:50,040 Speaker 2: those two had those two experiences. Like your experience gave 1798 01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:52,760 Speaker 2: you this result, and so in your mind, it's the 1799 01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:56,439 Speaker 2: best experience to have. And I think the circumstances are 1800 01:24:56,479 --> 01:24:59,280 Speaker 2: so different. You know, you think about you know, Stroud 1801 01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:04,519 Speaker 2: down in in Houston. CJ played three years in an 1802 01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:08,240 Speaker 2: NFL type system at Ohio State. So how much of 1803 01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:11,080 Speaker 2: a difference is that to go to what he's playing 1804 01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:14,240 Speaker 2: in in Houston not much. He's got smaller windows to 1805 01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:16,080 Speaker 2: throw to, but it's a lot of the same stuff 1806 01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:19,720 Speaker 2: that he was doing in college Bryce Young, and by 1807 01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:21,320 Speaker 2: the way, he still had talented guys to throw to, 1808 01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:23,760 Speaker 2: but put in a position to succeed, Bryce Young goes 1809 01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:27,439 Speaker 2: into a different system but also a completely different set 1810 01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:28,280 Speaker 2: of circumstances. 1811 01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:31,240 Speaker 4: Yes, and Bryce Young quite frankly, should have been the 1812 01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:34,479 Speaker 4: one in a dome. Bryce Young should have been. You 1813 01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:37,360 Speaker 4: know that those are things you needed to think about 1814 01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:41,639 Speaker 4: given his side. Yeah, yeah, it's wild. It is wild, 1815 01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:45,240 Speaker 4: and you know it'll be interesting to see. I am 1816 01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:46,280 Speaker 4: very impressed by c J. 1817 01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:46,639 Speaker 2: Straut. 1818 01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:48,200 Speaker 4: I like the way he conducts himself, with like the 1819 01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:50,760 Speaker 4: things he says. I like pretty much everything about him. 1820 01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:54,240 Speaker 4: But he also you know there will be and he's 1821 01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:57,360 Speaker 4: had in college great expectations, But in college you can 1822 01:25:57,439 --> 01:26:00,720 Speaker 4: have great expectations and just know that until you get 1823 01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:03,960 Speaker 4: to the BCS championship game or Michigan every other game, 1824 01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:06,400 Speaker 4: your team is significantly more talented than. 1825 01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:06,920 Speaker 2: Who you're playing. 1826 01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:07,320 Speaker 5: C J. 1827 01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:10,840 Speaker 2: Stroud's signature game at Ohio State is a loss to Georgia, right, 1828 01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:13,000 Speaker 2: that was his best game. So when people have the 1829 01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:16,280 Speaker 2: I mean he is easily the most gifted player to 1830 01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:19,360 Speaker 2: play there at that position. Like he's that guy right 1831 01:26:19,479 --> 01:26:21,680 Speaker 2: in terms of all of it, Yeah, the headspace for it, 1832 01:26:21,880 --> 01:26:23,720 Speaker 2: see it, read it, throw it, all of it, like 1833 01:26:24,200 --> 01:26:28,240 Speaker 2: he had all of it. But also like down there, 1834 01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:31,680 Speaker 2: he's viewed in a certain way because he never beat Michigan, 1835 01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:33,120 Speaker 2: he never won the Big Ten in his best game 1836 01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:36,320 Speaker 2: was won against Georgia and a loss, So he's missing 1837 01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:39,320 Speaker 2: that thing. Yeah, but yeah, it's a it's a totally 1838 01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:41,960 Speaker 2: totally in exact science with this thing, and it's it's 1839 01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:45,400 Speaker 2: really the circumstances that are around a young quarterback that's 1840 01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:46,320 Speaker 2: certainly dictated. 1841 01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:50,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, they play a massive, massive role. And you know, 1842 01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:54,320 Speaker 4: for some quarterbacks it's the ability to survive those initial 1843 01:26:54,439 --> 01:26:59,160 Speaker 4: circumstances so that you do not develop bad habits. And 1844 01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:01,519 Speaker 4: I think if you look get you know, justin fields, 1845 01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:03,839 Speaker 4: there was no doubt that some bad habits were developed 1846 01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:06,560 Speaker 4: by him. Yeah, in that early period, you know, we 1847 01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:07,120 Speaker 4: were talking. 1848 01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:09,240 Speaker 2: About, oh my god, his first game here was Kremity, 1849 01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:11,560 Speaker 2: and that was how do you how how do you 1850 01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:13,840 Speaker 2: come back from being sacked? Nineteen? I don't know if 1851 01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:16,360 Speaker 2: he digative yards of offense. I've never talking to I 1852 01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:17,800 Speaker 2: was at that game, and I remember talking to you 1853 01:27:17,880 --> 01:27:21,000 Speaker 2: before the game and you were like, this is not 1854 01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:21,720 Speaker 2: going to go well. 1855 01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:23,599 Speaker 4: Well, I knew a lot of people on their staff 1856 01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:28,559 Speaker 4: and they they were forced to as negative as negative 1857 01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:28,800 Speaker 4: could be. 1858 01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:31,519 Speaker 2: He's not ready for this. That no, and they were 1859 01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:34,240 Speaker 2: forced to play, and then you know the rest is 1860 01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:37,720 Speaker 2: history on that. All Right, We've got some backup guys 1861 01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:39,600 Speaker 2: going right now. Let's take a quick time out and 1862 01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:41,760 Speaker 2: then we'll hopefully time this up to where we get 1863 01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:43,920 Speaker 2: some more one on one stuff with the ones going 1864 01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:47,080 Speaker 2: against the ones out here at training camp practice. Listened 1865 01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:49,480 Speaker 2: to Cleveland Browns Daily on a fifty ESPN clueland. 1866 01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:56,519 Speaker 1: This is Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by bally 1867 01:27:56,560 --> 01:27:59,960 Speaker 1: bed Now Live in Ohio, Live from Brown's training camp 1868 01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:03,400 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four at the Cross Country Mortgage Campus in Barrie, Ohio. 1869 01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:06,599 Speaker 1: Here again our bou Bishop and Nathan's Agura. 1870 01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:22,679 Speaker 2: Who's your game day this season? With bally Bet Sportsbook 1871 01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:24,840 Speaker 2: app place your first bet fifty bucks or more, you 1872 01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:27,240 Speaker 2: had one hundred dollars, one hundred and fifty dollars back 1873 01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:30,519 Speaker 2: and bonus bets. Bally Bet official sports betting partner of 1874 01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:35,800 Speaker 2: your Cleveland Browns. Here's DeShawn out here, a little seven 1875 01:28:35,880 --> 01:28:38,120 Speaker 2: on seven work, spinning around a little bit, oh deep 1876 01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:42,000 Speaker 2: ball down the sideline at Judy. Oh, Jerry, did he 1877 01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:42,840 Speaker 2: drop it? He bobbled. 1878 01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:45,320 Speaker 4: It's right, Hey bobbled it. But it's perfect, perfect pass. 1879 01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:47,960 Speaker 4: He was open. We'll call it a catch for our purposes. 1880 01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:50,400 Speaker 2: Well, it was. It was on the screws and he 1881 01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:53,639 Speaker 2: it was. It was a Butte. She's a Butte Clark. 1882 01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:56,479 Speaker 2: It was. Jerry's been so sure handed. He was pretty 1883 01:28:56,479 --> 01:28:58,479 Speaker 2: pissed off about it. Just bobbled out of his hand. 1884 01:28:58,520 --> 01:29:00,800 Speaker 2: He can get open too. I'll tell you what. Yeah, 1885 01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:04,439 Speaker 2: separation not an issue for not an issue for issue there. 1886 01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:07,240 Speaker 2: But's some good work here with our with our ones. 1887 01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:11,800 Speaker 2: Another seven on seven wants out of the shotgun, looks left, 1888 01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:14,599 Speaker 2: looks right, and he's gonna have to bail. 1889 01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:18,439 Speaker 4: But he's got Is I your Mitchell Payton, Brown's leading 1890 01:29:18,479 --> 01:29:20,120 Speaker 4: receiver in the second preseason game, he. 1891 01:29:20,120 --> 01:29:21,439 Speaker 6: Got dinged up at the end of the game. I'm 1892 01:29:21,439 --> 01:29:22,479 Speaker 6: glad to see him out here. 1893 01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:24,960 Speaker 2: I thought he had Elijah here on the near side 1894 01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:29,600 Speaker 2: on the I couldn't see a little bit of a 1895 01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:35,000 Speaker 2: flag route there. R J is a formidable obstacle to 1896 01:29:35,080 --> 01:29:38,160 Speaker 2: my wing. You don't don't be smirch. That wasn't it 1897 01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:41,200 Speaker 2: a a smirching? You guys this close together is wild. 1898 01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:44,120 Speaker 2: It's wild to see there's. 1899 01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:45,759 Speaker 6: Still people in this building that get us confused. 1900 01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:47,639 Speaker 2: And it's correct. I mean really, I'll get a text 1901 01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:49,040 Speaker 2: from him. I think. 1902 01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:51,360 Speaker 4: I think when people are thinking about the wrong way, 1903 01:29:51,400 --> 01:29:53,160 Speaker 4: I think they're looking at the face or they're looking 1904 01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:54,759 Speaker 4: at the posture, and that's gonna be confusion. 1905 01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:55,519 Speaker 2: Look at the feet. 1906 01:29:56,320 --> 01:29:59,800 Speaker 4: R J's feet are very normal in terms of the 1907 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:02,479 Speaker 4: angles at which they are in relation to his knees, 1908 01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:07,280 Speaker 4: whereas gives I don't know, dude's gonna have a foot 1909 01:30:07,320 --> 01:30:10,080 Speaker 4: that is pointed straight in and it's gonna just say, 1910 01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:11,640 Speaker 4: wait a second, what's going on here? 1911 01:30:13,040 --> 01:30:16,280 Speaker 2: Oh man, we're starting back with some more joy. Oh yeah, 1912 01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:20,360 Speaker 2: everything you'd want, Everything you'd want there. I think you 1913 01:30:20,439 --> 01:30:22,720 Speaker 2: could have locks like that. I think if you, if 1914 01:30:22,760 --> 01:30:25,559 Speaker 2: you tried a lot of I mean, I haven't had 1915 01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:29,280 Speaker 2: a haircut since May, and it's it is a it's 1916 01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:33,320 Speaker 2: an awkward stage. Right now. It's okay with a hat, 1917 01:30:33,520 --> 01:30:38,200 Speaker 2: but then without Wow, it's been a minute. I'm gonna 1918 01:30:38,200 --> 01:30:40,280 Speaker 2: I'm gonna give myself a haircut today. There you go. 1919 01:30:40,760 --> 01:30:42,400 Speaker 4: I gotta get ready for Seattle. I need like a 1920 01:30:42,439 --> 01:30:43,720 Speaker 4: few days once I shave it down, you need a 1921 01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:45,080 Speaker 4: few days of growth for it to be you know. 1922 01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:46,519 Speaker 2: To get back to you ready. I love when you 1923 01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:49,280 Speaker 2: have a fresh dome. Uh jamis more completion over there, 1924 01:30:49,479 --> 01:30:51,320 Speaker 2: and we'll be back tomorrow with more of this fun 1925 01:30:51,439 --> 01:30:55,080 Speaker 2: as the fun final training camp will commence. The good 1926 01:30:55,120 --> 01:30:56,800 Speaker 2: news is the next level is gonna take you through 1927 01:30:57,320 --> 01:30:59,080 Speaker 2: the next couple of hours and they will continue to 1928 01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:01,519 Speaker 2: paint that picture for you. 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