Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to another edition of a Netificent. I
Speaker 1: am one half of your host, Dandy Fernandez, and sitting
Speaker 1: across from me as always in his NASA repond NASA Today.
Speaker 1: It's actually really nice. Yeah, it was just what was
Speaker 1: in the closet, you know, and I was out too
Speaker 1: late last night getting it in. You know why when
Speaker 1: we had our show did karaoke, I was gonna go
Speaker 1: to sleep early, and then you know, you sound tired.
Speaker 1: They were like they're like, you gotta, we gotta stay.
Speaker 1: It's gonna get pumped and we gotta sing some songs. Um,
Speaker 1: so yeah for Valentine's Yeah, just you know fellas Time's Day. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was about to say you called me and if
Speaker 1: he and I actually talked about like random things for
Speaker 1: like a half hour, and he's like, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: Because we're both we both like weren't we didn't have
Speaker 1: dates and I would be annoying. I felt bad for
Speaker 1: the other Super Punch team who had to fly to
Speaker 1: the TBS studio in Atlanta because like j D is married,
Speaker 1: Alex has a girlfriend, Kelly's married, and I was like,
Speaker 1: y'all abandon all your your your spouses and significant others
Speaker 1: to do this show on Twitch. Yeah, but I mean
Speaker 1: they're married, so yeah, it's like it's Valentine's Day every day. Yeah. Um.
Speaker 1: That other voice on the other side of the mic
Speaker 1: is l A based illustrator and writer Crystal Savage. Thanks
Speaker 1: for joining us, Thanks for having yeah, of course, thanks
Speaker 1: trying to be here. Yeah. No, this is gonna be
Speaker 1: another fun one. It's been fun month Black History Month.
Speaker 1: Went to get some black creators in here so we
Speaker 1: can just be talking about what we do. I think
Speaker 1: it adds like another like element of flare to it.
Speaker 1: Like we were talking about Milestone with Ed and there
Speaker 1: were so many parallels with starting up and pitching your
Speaker 1: own uh comic book company you with like even selling
Speaker 1: a TV show or something like that. And I'm sure
Speaker 1: the steps in trials and tribulations making a show like Static,
Speaker 1: you'll have a lot of insight on the illustration and
Speaker 1: writing side, even with the episodes just rewatching it. Um,
Speaker 1: And I know I'm totally jumping the gun, but um,
Speaker 1: I noticed, like the first they're the way they break
Speaker 1: up the seasons. Back in the two thousands, those shows
Speaker 1: typically had a twenty two episode run, so saying like
Speaker 1: season one is like twelve eleven or twelve episodes, and
Speaker 1: then season two is eleven and twelve episodes. That signal
Speaker 1: to me that that was and then also that the
Speaker 1: art style did not change until season three, because you've
Speaker 1: seen cartoons. First season, it's just yeah, but if it's
Speaker 1: good enough and they get enough viewership, they get their
Speaker 1: season two, they get a budget increase, everything looks amazing.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe they get a few more episodes, who knows.
Speaker 1: So it makes me think that season one and two
Speaker 1: is actually one season that they split into two so
Speaker 1: that they could make it for syndication. Maybe completely untrue.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I remember when I was at
Speaker 1: DreamWorks that did happen with a few shows that were
Speaker 1: supposed to go a little bit longer, but they decided
Speaker 1: to end the run. They had two seasons, but they
Speaker 1: would split them into four seasons by doing taking the
Speaker 1: twenty two episodes into to twelve episode seasons. So that's
Speaker 1: how you make your syndication. Still, but I could be
Speaker 1: totally off base, but everything like this whole thing with
Speaker 1: shows only having thirteen episodes ten episodes, that's very recent phenomenon. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's very that's that's actually, you know, just for more
Speaker 1: insider baseball talk. That's kind of been the whole thing
Speaker 1: with w g A bargaining because you know, you used
Speaker 1: to have these longer season runs, so that would you know,
Speaker 1: take care of the year if you only did the
Speaker 1: year of writing. But now you have the shorter run season,
Speaker 1: some seasons as short as eight episodes, and if you
Speaker 1: don't write for the rest of the year, that eight
Speaker 1: episodes worth of money isn't the same. Yeah, so so
Speaker 1: we have to you know, bargain and kind of get
Speaker 1: more minimums or higher pay for shorter runs and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. But yeah, no, that's it's it's yeah, it's
Speaker 1: funny how I know. It's interesting because there's like two
Speaker 1: sides of of media where you get the front face
Speaker 1: and consumer side of what we see, digest enjoy and
Speaker 1: pretty much yeah, it's just there to enjoy, but then
Speaker 1: there's all the back stuff that happens that and it's
Speaker 1: so funny to see because you know, same thing and
Speaker 1: this will be I guess kind of molded into what
Speaker 1: I'm gigging out about, which is the fact that my
Speaker 1: one of my favorite games, Apex Legends, who uh a
Speaker 1: friend of mine many. Hugopion has been writing on got
Speaker 1: Game of the I think it was Multiplayer Game of
Speaker 1: the Game Year or the first person Shooter Game of
Speaker 1: the Year at the DICE Awards, And it was interesting
Speaker 1: seeing because you know there's a game that BioWare was made,
Speaker 1: uh and by Aware if you don't know them, they
Speaker 1: did the mass Effect games, the Dragon Age games, and
Speaker 1: as recently they you know back when That's Effect wanted
Speaker 1: to the first to games even before that, but that
Speaker 1: those were the games. Yeah, like in grade school, that's
Speaker 1: when they were like known as like, oh this is
Speaker 1: this is you know when that's because you know, video
Speaker 1: games kind of started in the like two thousands, two
Speaker 1: thousands tend to have that stand culture behind publishers where
Speaker 1: it's like we can trust these guys. But you know,
Speaker 1: with the newest mass Effect started a little earlier than yeah,
Speaker 1: because I'm okay, I'm about to get forty this year.
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you honestly, when I think it started.
Speaker 1: That was squar Sauce Fault with Final Fantasy. They started
Speaker 1: with Final Fantasy seven, and people were like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I can trust Squares offt to make this amazing game
Speaker 1: because they were the ones that changed everything. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: get games on disc because of Final Fantasy seven, We
Speaker 1: get games going across years because of Final Fantasy seven,
Speaker 1: And they were able to build so much after Final
Speaker 1: Fantasy seven came out. They was making movies that was like,
Speaker 1: we're gonna make her gates, We're gonna make fighting games,
Speaker 1: We're gonna make you know, shooter games. We're gonna make
Speaker 1: not just RPGs. And they really like all of that
Speaker 1: happened because of Final Fantasy seven, and people like glumped
Speaker 1: on the Square Soft and that just that was it listening.
Speaker 1: That's what Square Enix used to be called the Square
Speaker 1: I remember, yes, Square Soft. Well, when they turned into
Speaker 1: Square enixs, I was like, who are you? Who is this?
Speaker 1: But yeah, but so now but with the Anthem, it
Speaker 1: was kind of a flop and they've been trying to
Speaker 1: rework it. It's kind of a Games of the Service
Speaker 1: game similar to Destiny, And there were so many people
Speaker 1: who were like, oh, by aware is is this and that?
Speaker 1: And we can't trust them by where this? By where
Speaker 1: that bay? And it wasn't until Jesse Cox came on, go, well,
Speaker 1: I know that Anthem was rushed by e a. So
Speaker 1: I'm wondering if the suits that rushed by Aware to
Speaker 1: make this game and thus making an incomplete game, are
Speaker 1: without jobs anyone, anyone, And it's like, yeah, that's what. Really,
Speaker 1: you're blaming BioWare when it's not even their fault and
Speaker 1: you know I'm not gonna rush the job. Are still working,
Speaker 1: they are collecting, they check. Oh yeah, they that FIFA
Speaker 1: check that FIFA check. Keep them, keep them afloat, baby,
Speaker 1: They're fine, You're fine. Don't worry. What are you nerding
Speaker 1: out about doing? Um um? Well, A couple of things. One,
Speaker 1: I'm glad that our prediction was right, that Matthew Cherry
Speaker 1: Ascara like like nostradamit's over here. I mean, I was
Speaker 1: scared that I was going to jinx in by saying
Speaker 1: he won it because we recorded the day before, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, he won. I'm hoping that's the power of speaking.
Speaker 1: He literally did Another thing, I want to give a
Speaker 1: shout out to our friend and Short's The Voice of
Speaker 1: Sonics is opening this weekend, so so shout out, go
Speaker 1: check out the Sonic movie. And people are enjoying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a it's a it's a family friendly movie. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's supposed to be groundbreaking, so um, just
Speaker 1: enjoy it and then uh, finally, this just feels like
Speaker 1: I'm just shouting out movies. What I was getting out
Speaker 1: about was actually that I went with Malcolm Barrett if
Speaker 1: I'm on Oscar to night after I saw After I
Speaker 1: saw Matthew, when I checked out, I left, we were
Speaker 1: like I've done, and I went and um, I went
Speaker 1: to see Birds of Prey and I did love many
Speaker 1: different things about it, but one was the sheer amount
Speaker 1: of fighting they had, like the fight choreography. I mean,
Speaker 1: it was just like it reminded me of there's two
Speaker 1: types of DBZ episodes. There's one where they stand around
Speaker 1: and talk and there's one where they fight the entire time.
Speaker 1: And that's what it felt like. It was like majority fighting.
Speaker 1: I felt like, I'm probably going to see that tonight
Speaker 1: after this. Yeah I haven't. Yeah, I gotta see this.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna record track with Lamar. But then I got
Speaker 1: to get my hair cut. I got you know, it's
Speaker 1: that I've been working so much. Yeah yeah, yeah, but
Speaker 1: I like, I wake up, go to the gym, because
Speaker 1: you know, your boy never sleeps. You boy got to
Speaker 1: get them gains. But I'm writing on this sci fi show,
Speaker 1: Great Debate, who you might you might see some folk,
Speaker 1: you know, you might see some folks on that show.
Speaker 1: Just just gonna say, I've meant a text to see
Speaker 1: if I can announce some of the people. Because the
Speaker 1: tickets are available. Yeah, you can buy tickets for the
Speaker 1: live taping. So usually the ticketing sites will say who's
Speaker 1: gonna be on it? Uh, and we have Yeah, we've
Speaker 1: locked a few apps. Uh, you know, but it's you know,
Speaker 1: I might wanna might wanna hop. Yeah. But so I've
Speaker 1: been doing that from like ten thirty to five thirty,
Speaker 1: sitting in an hour and twenty minutes of traffic from
Speaker 1: Culver to Burbank to shoot my yeah, because then I
Speaker 1: shoot my late night on Twitch super Punch from seven
Speaker 1: to eleven. Then I jet home, try and get a
Speaker 1: little bit asleep. But because you know me, like I
Speaker 1: like one night, I was playing Apex till like two
Speaker 1: problem and then like, yeah, last night, like I did
Speaker 1: all that. I got home at two and I was like,
Speaker 1: let me watch one episode of again Tomas Wow. One episode.
Speaker 1: But then I knew I screwed myself because they were like,
Speaker 1: this is the one hour special premier episode. On my point,
Speaker 1: if you want to know, you want to know something
Speaker 1: so funny when people get honest at our podcast is
Speaker 1: only an hour, which I think is like the perfect
Speaker 1: time is, um, I'm writing on this show. I do
Speaker 1: the same thing where I'm in this writer's room for
Speaker 1: Netflix until like six pm, like you know, it's dark out,
Speaker 1: And then I agreed to do someone's podcast and it
Speaker 1: was it was ram but like it was two hours long.
Speaker 1: So I was sitting there until nine pm thinking like
Speaker 1: I need I feel so bad, I need to not
Speaker 1: agree to do this. I was like, this is there's
Speaker 1: no topic that I need to sit here that you
Speaker 1: need to hear me talk about for two hours of
Speaker 1: just straight Yeah, I know it depends on the topic. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean I hear you, but also like, as a
Speaker 1: working person, I cannot. That's why like all of our
Speaker 1: guests like you and everyone that comes in is like
Speaker 1: they're busy people. They're doing stuff, and so we try
Speaker 1: to give give you all info and bite sized amounts
Speaker 1: and then get out of there. So, um, Crystal, what
Speaker 1: are you getting out about this week? I love dead
Speaker 1: Dead demons, the dead Dead Dead destruction. It is a
Speaker 1: manga by any assano Um. If you read good Night Mr.
Speaker 1: Poom Poom or um Stollen in with the other one
Speaker 1: that came out, it's this crazy slice of life manga
Speaker 1: about basically, these aliens just showed up over Tokyo huge
Speaker 1: mothership and did absolutely nothing, and of course people thought
Speaker 1: they were about to get invaded. They were freaking out
Speaker 1: and nothing happened, so then they started to just get
Speaker 1: used to it it and go on about their daily lives.
Speaker 1: But that's not gonna just sit. It's like, it's just
Speaker 1: like the craziest thing I've ever seen is about these
Speaker 1: four high school girls that are just trying to decide
Speaker 1: if they still want to go to school in the
Speaker 1: face of this, because they know they're like, we're gonna
Speaker 1: die for sure, there's something's going to happen, or if
Speaker 1: they're gonna try to pursue romantic relationships, or if they're
Speaker 1: going to try to stop these aliens, or if the
Speaker 1: aliens are actually a problem. Because there's some reveals later on.
Speaker 1: I'm on book seven, I know there's like a couple
Speaker 1: of more volumes left, and a lot of things have
Speaker 1: been revealed about the aliens and what the government is doing.
Speaker 1: Donald Trump is in there. Yes, comic is amazing and
Speaker 1: I recommend it to anybody to read it. And our
Speaker 1: style is amazing too as well. So you say it
Speaker 1: was a manga, Yeah, maa, okay, I love whenever they
Speaker 1: drag us Please Death Note went and had Donald Trump
Speaker 1: in it too. They did shot you have to it's
Speaker 1: impossible now you can't not drag Look at what look
Speaker 1: at what's going on over in America. Yeah. Well it's
Speaker 1: so funny too, because like my buddy Pierce is over
Speaker 1: in Japan right now, and when he when Donald Trump
Speaker 1: was meeting with the Japanese Prime Minister, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: what's this And my buddy was like, he's just as bad.
Speaker 1: He's our Donald Trump. I was like, yeah, yeah, really yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just as bad as Donald That's what Pierce said.
Speaker 1: So wow, he said it's very like he's very nationalist,
Speaker 1: say something, you know, so same thing. It seems like
Speaker 1: it was just some weird kool aid that went into
Speaker 1: all the different world leaders where it's like we just
Speaker 1: got to get supernationalists and be about us in our roots,
Speaker 1: but really not our roots, just the primary race that
Speaker 1: we want to I mean, we don't really have I
Speaker 1: mean our roots aren't anyways. I was going to say,
Speaker 1: I love that Bong June Hoo kept calling the Oscars
Speaker 1: like a regional. Oh yeah, it's funny. It's still show.
Speaker 1: Yeah he's still swept. He was like, thanks, and I'm out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's very liable to keep checking Americans. We need it.
Speaker 1: And if you like to parasite of, I'll check out
Speaker 1: snow Piercer, check out the host. You know that he's
Speaker 1: got some other hits to check out. Pierce is my favorite.
Speaker 1: I just want to tweet gifts that are like respect.
Speaker 1: People that have seen it will get that. Send me
Speaker 1: respect gifts. I'm still freaked out, but I guy, we'll
Speaker 1: look so. Um. I was going to say, before we
Speaker 1: though hop into static Shock, I kind of would love
Speaker 1: the audience to know a little bit more about you,
Speaker 1: Crystal pursuing you know, being an illustrator and writing comics.
Speaker 1: So how did you get into this field and how
Speaker 1: did you also? Sorry, second question, when did you decide
Speaker 1: to pursue it professionally? Honestly, I always love comics. Um.
Speaker 1: I told you before that I grew up reading my
Speaker 1: dad's comic book collection. He had bookcases and bookcases and
Speaker 1: bookcases of comics, and um, I just read all of
Speaker 1: them whatever I could. And I got a little older,
Speaker 1: felled down to manga black hole, never to be seen again.
Speaker 1: But and I thought for a while, I was like,
Speaker 1: oh wow, I'm gonna be an animator because I always
Speaker 1: love cartoons and I went to school for it. Um.
Speaker 1: And I did finally come out here, super duper late.
Speaker 1: But I came out here. Where are you from? I'm
Speaker 1: from Chicago, originally from Chicago, born and raised, and um, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a culture shot coming here. But that's what's
Speaker 1: at the point. UM. And I started working at Universal. UM.
Speaker 1: Then I ended up at DreamWorks. Um they were doing
Speaker 1: some Netflix shows. They're doing a bunch of Netflix shows now, um.
Speaker 1: And then a couple of other smaller studios after that.
Speaker 1: But I had always loved animation. I always love comic books,
Speaker 1: and those two kind of tend to go hand in hand,
Speaker 1: Like I don't know anybody that's in the comic that
Speaker 1: does said doesn't love animation, and vice versa. UM. It
Speaker 1: is a related but similar, related but different skill set
Speaker 1: because with animation, especially storyboards, which is what people used
Speaker 1: to compare to comics. It's all about a your camera,
Speaker 1: where's your camera gonna be at? So I did my
Speaker 1: time at some animation studios, but honestly, one of the
Speaker 1: things I learned, I mean because the way, and you
Speaker 1: guys know as well, you work on a project for
Speaker 1: a certain amount of time, and then you're hustling for
Speaker 1: the next next project, which means you're hustling for the
Speaker 1: next paycheck. And I realized that I can do that,
Speaker 1: and it's cool, but I'm always gonna be working on
Speaker 1: somebody else's ideas and somebody else's stories and somebody else's dreams.
Speaker 1: I have a finite amount of time on this earth,
Speaker 1: and I don't want to spend it telling somebody else's story.
Speaker 1: I want to tell on my own stories. So I
Speaker 1: uh got together with my friend that you know, he
Speaker 1: was the only other black person on our product to Netflix,
Speaker 1: I mean at uh DreamWorks. We're doing a show for
Speaker 1: Netflix that DreamWorks, and Uh, I was like, yo, let's
Speaker 1: just do this comic together. Like, you know, we're both
Speaker 1: obviously still working, but we're like, we need to be
Speaker 1: working towards something for ourselves so that we're not constantly
Speaker 1: be beholden to some big name studio or any other
Speaker 1: studio for you know, So, did you all have to
Speaker 1: meet up on because you're still working full time. I'm
Speaker 1: just trying to give I know this helps our listeners
Speaker 1: that are also trying to pursue a creative absolutely, so,
Speaker 1: were you meeting up on weekends? Always on the weekends
Speaker 1: we meet up. We have it scheduled. And this is
Speaker 1: the thing that you absolutely have to do if this
Speaker 1: is something that you're interested in, especially if you're working
Speaker 1: with somebody else one, you have to respect their time
Speaker 1: and your energy and your own. Don't make unrealistic goals
Speaker 1: or expectations about this sort of thing. It is going
Speaker 1: to take the time that it's going to take, and
Speaker 1: the more research that you do ahead of the time,
Speaker 1: the better that your situation will be. Um And you
Speaker 1: want to make sure you're working with somebody that actually
Speaker 1: wants to do with that isn't just like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: you know, I could do a draw a few pictures
Speaker 1: here and there. You want somebody that is committed to
Speaker 1: the project as you are, that sees, yes, I see
Speaker 1: value in this. I need to be doing something other
Speaker 1: than you know, just working for somebody else. It also
Speaker 1: helps if that person has their own ideas that maybe
Speaker 1: they want to get out there. Because my partner, he's
Speaker 1: a board artist, so of course he's a board artist,
Speaker 1: are writers too. He has a lot of great ideas.
Speaker 1: So after we're done with this first one, this are
Speaker 1: comic fantasmic gore, we're coming out with. Um, I'm pushing
Speaker 1: him because he had this game that he was working on. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm pushing him to produce that one next because I
Speaker 1: say why not? Why not? And that's also you should
Speaker 1: ask yourself why not? So yeah, um, so yeah, we
Speaker 1: meet every weekend. Uh, we have a do an agenda
Speaker 1: ahead of time because I'm basically the captain of this
Speaker 1: ship at this point. So have our meeting agenda, we
Speaker 1: hit our points and everything, and then we have our
Speaker 1: assignments to go back to when we go back into
Speaker 1: our normal nine to five lives. Um. Of course, you
Speaker 1: want to make sure you're carving out some time to
Speaker 1: yourself to work on stuff. And it is so hard.
Speaker 1: It's so hard, especially and this is the hardest thing
Speaker 1: because I was working in production, but he's uh, in
Speaker 1: the on the creative end, you're expending a lot of
Speaker 1: creative energy too. If you're on doing design, if you're
Speaker 1: doing boards, even if you're if you're writing for somebody,
Speaker 1: you're expending in a lot of creative energy for somebody else,
Speaker 1: And it's hard to recharge and work on your own stuff.
Speaker 1: But you have to, like, I feel like I have
Speaker 1: this story to tell. Yeah, I think people is going
Speaker 1: to resonate what else? So for me, So this Netflix
Speaker 1: show that I'm working on right now, which is great.
Speaker 1: I can congratulation to see a girl. Yeah, I cannot
Speaker 1: wait to for everyone to see it. Um, but it's
Speaker 1: not my show. I have a separate show that I
Speaker 1: get to work on this spring that's mine. But this
Speaker 1: show and so you're there all day. You're using your brain,
Speaker 1: which is like the most exhausted. You don't realize because
Speaker 1: you're sitting right the whole time, but you're pitching ideas
Speaker 1: and I go through so much coffee because everyone in
Speaker 1: the room got there because of their talent, right, So
Speaker 1: everyone is like some of the best writers in that room,
Speaker 1: and you're having to pitch alongside them, which is great,
Speaker 1: but you need to bring your a game every day.
Speaker 1: And so and so we're going to wrap up at
Speaker 1: the end of February, beginning to March, and my team
Speaker 1: my reps were like, hey, so, do you want to
Speaker 1: go work on this other show after And I said no,
Speaker 1: And they said, I'm sorry, Can we ask why? And
Speaker 1: I said yeah, because I just you know, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: I just did these several months on someone else's show,
Speaker 1: and there's no way I can work on my own
Speaker 1: stuff if I'm like, you know, I have this And
Speaker 1: I'm saying that from a place of like, yes, I've
Speaker 1: been able to stash away a little bit of money
Speaker 1: from from this show so that I can I can
Speaker 1: you know, keep moving on so that I can take
Speaker 1: some time off to work on my stuff. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm so in the same way where I think that
Speaker 1: to them was like, don't you just want to make money?
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, actually, I don't mind making
Speaker 1: less money for a month, having a month off or
Speaker 1: two if I can like sit down and recharge and
Speaker 1: like actually make my own scripts. And I totally agree.
Speaker 1: It's like it's really hard. You have to do both.
Speaker 1: You have to do both when you're coming up, but
Speaker 1: there's a certain point where you're like, you know, when
Speaker 1: am I actually going to set aside time to work
Speaker 1: on my own stuff and just a piece of advice,
Speaker 1: if you can give yourself three months. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: know if you can, that might not be possible. But
Speaker 1: if you can give yourself three months, because you need
Speaker 1: a month to decompress all of what you just did
Speaker 1: and get back into your own headspace, and then a
Speaker 1: month to like really get into working and then and
Speaker 1: then having two months just to just push all your
Speaker 1: stuff and then jump back into that nine o five game. Sure,
Speaker 1: but that's what I would suggest, Like if you can
Speaker 1: get and you know, with this business, we get a
Speaker 1: show or a gig or whatever, and in that ends
Speaker 1: and you might have a little bit of time off,
Speaker 1: and I say, use that time off to push your projects. Like, yes,
Speaker 1: obviously make the connections, call to people, network, whatever you're
Speaker 1: doing to get your next gig, but make sure you
Speaker 1: have something that you're working on, because you know what,
Speaker 1: you might be in a meeting with somebody and they
Speaker 1: might ask you they do if you have something to
Speaker 1: pitch and if you've worked on that, hey you're ready
Speaker 1: to go. I was gonna say, I also have a
Speaker 1: rule that I made just recently this past month, and
Speaker 1: I have Sunday is off, Like it doesn't matter people,
Speaker 1: and I feel bad. But people will be like, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm throwing this thing and I'm like I cannot go.
Speaker 1: Like I won't say why. I'm just like I'm so sorry,
Speaker 1: I can't make it. And I'm like, because every Sunday
Speaker 1: somebody will have a thing, ye every Sunday somebody want
Speaker 1: to do, like oh, can you record my show? Can
Speaker 1: you do this? And that I'm like, this is just
Speaker 1: so I can't do this to myself if I don't
Speaker 1: give myself one single day where I do absolutely nothing. However,
Speaker 1: on that day, I do feel really bad and guilty
Speaker 1: about it. I think it's because we were raised to
Speaker 1: like just constantly feel we have to hustle, and so
Speaker 1: even on my Sunday, my day off, I still I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I could be doing more, and it's like, no, you
Speaker 1: literally use your brain week. Your brain will not be
Speaker 1: as good this week if you don't take this day off.
Speaker 1: It's so funny because it's like a mix of a
Speaker 1: little bit of both in the sense that like, sometimes
Speaker 1: I'll get the ball rolling on something and so you
Speaker 1: get the momentum going, and then there's that period where
Speaker 1: like you're not doing something before your next thing, and
Speaker 1: you're just freaking out about and you're like depressed and
Speaker 1: you're like, why am I not doing any more when
Speaker 1: I'm not doing it? And then you begin the next thing,
Speaker 1: you're like, I'm so exhausted. Why didn't rest? True? And
Speaker 1: you're like, uh, you know, it's so hard to just
Speaker 1: accept it and rest, and like, maybe watch an episode
Speaker 1: of static Shock into our topic static Shock. I think
Speaker 1: that's good just because we're going to be talking about
Speaker 1: the animation and the episodes and stuff. So what was
Speaker 1: your first introduction two Stock? I think I caught an
Speaker 1: episode like I was just again. It came out in
Speaker 1: two thousands, so I was twenty safely tony by that time,
Speaker 1: and um, I was not watching a lot of American cartoons.
Speaker 1: I was like, um, we were calling ourselves old taku
Speaker 1: back in, but y'all call it weaves. Yeah, yeah, you
Speaker 1: didn't involved in the weaves even though yes, I when
Speaker 1: people started calling each other we'ves, I was like, well,
Speaker 1: it's funny because I have a friend writing for the
Speaker 1: Anime Awards and they don't. They're not letting her call
Speaker 1: each other weaves or we abows. They don't. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: they they're like crunchy rolls, like no, unacceptable. I think
Speaker 1: because remember we'ves kind of started as like a derogatory
Speaker 1: and then we took it, so I think they're still
Speaker 1: like originally yeah, but I guess it's more I always
Speaker 1: is probably I always just equated it to like a
Speaker 1: non Japanese person that has like latched themselves on, which
Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily saying is bad. It's kind of more
Speaker 1: self aware that you're when you call yourself a weed.
Speaker 1: I'm very aware I'm not Japanese and I'm obsessed with
Speaker 1: anime and their culture. Yeah, And that's that's the kind
Speaker 1: of way it was taken because we was originally those people.
Speaker 1: We we all knew as as anime fans, growing up
Speaker 1: as anime fans. We all knew that person who like
Speaker 1: would would would just like squeezing kawai and Japanese phrases.
Speaker 1: And I'm going to go to Japan. Yeah, no, you're not,
Speaker 1: You're not. I'm finally going this year though, Gangang. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Brody is ahead of me. He's he's learning to speak
Speaker 1: Japanese and literally a week, Yeah, I started wearing like
Speaker 1: Japanese clothing and all of that I'm not saying that you.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, Japanese in college, because yeah, I
Speaker 1: took through sizes of Japanese in college. I took one
Speaker 1: and dropped out because I was like, this is harder
Speaker 1: than Spanish. Yeah, to me, it was just a term
Speaker 1: that like, I'm very self aware of what I'm doing.
Speaker 1: But every anime fan goes through there and you get
Speaker 1: deep into Japan. I'm going to become a manga artist.
Speaker 1: I'm be animated, and then you like, all right, calm down. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's fine, especially if you start watching K drama z,
Speaker 1: like historical K dramas and you're like, Japan was terrible,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, they killed the whole royal family. But
Speaker 1: you know, I say that if you want to cure
Speaker 1: anybody or there, we've status, let him watch them historical
Speaker 1: K dramas and they will be like, all right, get
Speaker 1: some balance. But yes, static shock, that's that's what happens
Speaker 1: when we get weaves talking about regular animation, we just
Speaker 1: go back to the animate something. Hey, no, listen, stack
Speaker 1: shock was everything from the simple fact that, and I've
Speaker 1: said this a whole bunch of times to y'all, I
Speaker 1: was tony when it came out, and I was annoyed
Speaker 1: because I wanted that show. When I was a teenager,
Speaker 1: I was watching Sailor Moon, Dragon ball Z, Rhona Warriors,
Speaker 1: all that jazz, and we didn't have black superheroes. He
Speaker 1: had Storm from X ME in the nineties. That was
Speaker 1: a dope cartoon, right, But what happened after that, it
Speaker 1: was like nothing, That's what it was. Something happened after
Speaker 1: the nineties where everything gets super white all a television
Speaker 1: and it just went, Okay, we did that. We're done
Speaker 1: with this part of you know, history and entertainment. Everything's
Speaker 1: back to being white. And for a long time, you
Speaker 1: didn't really see a lot of, you know, different faces
Speaker 1: of color on the screen. But Static Shock was clearly
Speaker 1: an exception. And I do remember just me, why couldn't
Speaker 1: I have this when I was like a kid coming up.
Speaker 1: But it was a cool little show. It was such
Speaker 1: a cool show the first two seasons, like I said,
Speaker 1: kind of look a little struggle, you know, um, And
Speaker 1: but that's typical. You know, the show gets a better
Speaker 1: budget in the second season and then you start seeing
Speaker 1: better animation and everything, even the music yet better. Especially
Speaker 1: like the third season, it was like, oh, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm watching. I'm singing alone, you know. Um. But one
Speaker 1: of the fun things about Static that I absolutely love,
Speaker 1: and like every animated show has like their own little
Speaker 1: background music going on, but like it with the introduction
Speaker 1: to the bad guy, they got like their own little
Speaker 1: music like move get out, Like it's like a dude
Speaker 1: that's like I forget which one was he had all
Speaker 1: of his density problems or whatever. He can no no,
Speaker 1: no me no evon with the shadow corn rolls. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was so tight. He was a good back. Did
Speaker 1: you know his Um, I was watching, I was like,
Speaker 1: I recognized the voice of his you know, the brother
Speaker 1: rubber band man. That's Dwayne Wayne from a different world. Yes,
Speaker 1: Like I heard that voice. I was like, I know
Speaker 1: the voice that I was like, I was like, that
Speaker 1: sounds like the Dayne Wayne. I looked it up Cadine
Speaker 1: Harrison of course, so um. Static Shock Also, even though
Speaker 1: it came out in two thousand's it did. I noticed
Speaker 1: that it follows quite a nineties format for cartoons, which
Speaker 1: was a lot of modular episodes where it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: just the singular, singular story and not an overarching story.
Speaker 1: So you get that a lot in the nineties, and
Speaker 1: then you also had things like, um, the best friend
Speaker 1: that was like, I'm the geeky best friend. That's that's
Speaker 1: a sidekick, but also a little bit jealous of the
Speaker 1: superhero friend that. In course, in subsequent seasons they get
Speaker 1: magic powers too, so that happened. But it was cool
Speaker 1: because his best friend was the white guy, because normally
Speaker 1: is like the best friend is the black guy. And
Speaker 1: I got all these little jokes, and I got all
Speaker 1: of these little you know, quips or whatever, and then
Speaker 1: I'm just like jealous of this white man with his
Speaker 1: magic power. So they were like, we're gonna flip it.
Speaker 1: He flipped it, and I was like, that's cool because
Speaker 1: you know, come on, yeah, it's good to see. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know, we're the character Static from Static Shock
Speaker 1: came out of the Milestone comics that we were talking
Speaker 1: about last week, which it was. It was wild to
Speaker 1: me because I, you know, ed had this deep knowledge
Speaker 1: of Milestone. I didn't even notice it because I was like,
Speaker 1: my dad refused to buy me comics, so that's kind
Speaker 1: of why I deserved it. I wasn't doing well. I
Speaker 1: was a class count clown. That's why I must stand
Speaker 1: up now. But so since I couldn't like go to
Speaker 1: comic bookshops often, I just would you know, online manga's
Speaker 1: downloading animate like that. So so like I was in
Speaker 1: two comics, but I didn't fall so the way I
Speaker 1: got a lot of my comic book stuff with Spider
Speaker 1: Man the series, X Men the series which back then,
Speaker 1: remember they were following stuff that was happening in the comics. Well,
Speaker 1: so like I was able to communicate with kids who
Speaker 1: were reading the comics because they were just taking stuff
Speaker 1: from it. And funny enough, Static is no different, like
Speaker 1: you know, they're they were like minor changes here and there.
Speaker 1: But the character Virgil, and I think what made him
Speaker 1: so cool to us is he was he was the
Speaker 1: Spider Man. He's a young kid, really into science, really smart.
Speaker 1: He you know, it was an act of heroism how
Speaker 1: he got his power because he went to stop his
Speaker 1: friend from at the Big Bang, you know. And I
Speaker 1: think in the cartoons, wasn't it like it was let
Speaker 1: me see you because hopeing was Virtual was getting bullied
Speaker 1: at school, right, and then they were gonna, uh these
Speaker 1: other gangs were like protected him. But he said in exchange,
Speaker 1: you gotta do something for me, and the courced him
Speaker 1: down to the docks or wherever the Big Bank took place,
Speaker 1: and the whole fight broke out and in Kablamo, right,
Speaker 1: he gets his powers. But that to me was just
Speaker 1: like it was such a nineties thing. He was like,
Speaker 1: because there was a lot of media that came out,
Speaker 1: this is what's happening to our black Yeah, they're being
Speaker 1: coerced into these gangs by other dangerous black youths. Well,
Speaker 1: that's what was funny because that's now knowing the actual
Speaker 1: origin of the Big Bang, Like the Mouthstone version, I
Speaker 1: was like, ye, there's no way they were gonna let
Speaker 1: that be in the TV show because the the the
Speaker 1: Milestone version is that all these gangs came out to
Speaker 1: have the one battle, and then the government wanted to
Speaker 1: do experiments on black people, so they went ahead and
Speaker 1: threw these chemicals on them and it ended up giving
Speaker 1: them powers that backfired on them. You know, someone, It
Speaker 1: killed a whole bunch of people. Show No kids TV show.
Speaker 1: When I watched, and I had a feeling when I
Speaker 1: was watching, I was like, they're letting some of Dwayne
Speaker 1: come out, but they're definitely filtering out a lot. They're
Speaker 1: definitely giving us what they think that we that is acceptable. Well, also,
Speaker 1: it's harder to make, you know, statements like that, especially
Speaker 1: in the nineties for a kids show, because they can
Speaker 1: now use that excuse. They no longer have to be like, well,
Speaker 1: we're not comfortable. They can say the kids, you know,
Speaker 1: they're not gonna get the nuance of this type of thing.
Speaker 1: They might think the cops are bad or something. Hitting
Speaker 1: Duyne's like exactly, wait a minute. I had to ask
Speaker 1: about that because I forgot which season it was the
Speaker 1: dad started dating a cop. I was too through when
Speaker 1: I was like, really, we're gonna do this storyline when
Speaker 1: he's dating this and then like the way they set
Speaker 1: it up though, I was like the whole time, because um,
Speaker 1: something happened, somebody broken or no, these people that had
Speaker 1: this suitcase with these special chemicals or whatever gets robbed
Speaker 1: by these kids that don't really know any better, but
Speaker 1: they got powers, right, So, um, Static is in the
Speaker 1: area and it's like, you know, non descript black man
Speaker 1: gets snatched up by the police. It's literally what this
Speaker 1: introduction to the girlfriend is. She snatches up Static and
Speaker 1: Static is like, well, Virgil because he's not static at
Speaker 1: the time. Um, they wanted to look in his backpack.
Speaker 1: He had his constume in there, so he's like, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna show them my constume. I still have my
Speaker 1: secret identity. So he runs away from the police and
Speaker 1: I'm like, lord, I'm watching this like you could get shot,
Speaker 1: young man, you know, but run, I get why you're running.
Speaker 1: Run faster well, And then like his daddy yells and
Speaker 1: him like I told you, Like, the conversation is less like, um,
Speaker 1: what how I would have framed it If I were
Speaker 1: a parent, I would be like, I'm gonna need you
Speaker 1: to stay away from the police in general. Okay, I
Speaker 1: need you to not even if you see him you
Speaker 1: crossed the street and go someplace else so that you
Speaker 1: don't have to run from them if you can't, if
Speaker 1: you can't. But like she he was mad at him
Speaker 1: for like running from the police and not being like
Speaker 1: a good upstanding citizen in Da da da, And I'm like,
Speaker 1: is this really a black dad? Yeah, I'm confused. It
Speaker 1: was just such an it felt to me incongruous with
Speaker 1: like something that I think a black creator like. But
Speaker 1: it was still pushing that narrative of like the police
Speaker 1: are ultimately good guys, and we gotta be you know,
Speaker 1: working tandem with law enforcement to like, you know, they
Speaker 1: were still pushing the officer friendly trope yeah, which we
Speaker 1: know is not the truth and has never been a
Speaker 1: truth for black people ever, so you know, but okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's but you know, it's That's why it's like, I
Speaker 1: love the idea of revisiting Static because I do like,
Speaker 1: you know, exploring those things in an interesting way, like
Speaker 1: you know, um, the vigilanteism versus police and like what
Speaker 1: one can do to help for the community, because I
Speaker 1: do think there are people who do sign up to
Speaker 1: be cops and you know, want to help the community,
Speaker 1: but they're like, you know, like in those in those
Speaker 1: complex subjects I think are the spirit of what Milestone
Speaker 1: was all about. But we'll get more into the TV
Speaker 1: shows and at breakdown specific episodes and moments right after
Speaker 1: these messengers and we are back, we're talking about Static Shock,
Speaker 1: both the TV show and the comic and the character.
Speaker 1: And I just wanted to say about the TV show.
Speaker 1: So the co creator, Michael Davis, he runs an annual
Speaker 1: panel at SDCC and its title is The Plot Against
Speaker 1: Static Shock, and it looks to revisit Michael Davis's repeated
Speaker 1: allegations at the character he co created Static Shock, one
Speaker 1: of DC's most successfully published by black characters, and one
Speaker 1: that headline is successful cartoon has been sidelined at the publisher,
Speaker 1: even as his popularity is maintained. Actually, our friend Joe
Speaker 1: Star kind of tweeted something about this because it was
Speaker 1: in the animation field. There was a talk and animation
Speaker 1: Twitter about how um somebody just essentially tweeted something that
Speaker 1: was like, oh, um, sorry, we have to cancel the
Speaker 1: show because we didn't sell enough merch. And the character
Speaker 1: and the creator was like, well, you didn't make any
Speaker 1: merch and they were like, well, sorry about that. And
Speaker 1: Joe Star was like, oh, the static shock syndrome or something.
Speaker 1: He probably didn't say syndrome because that's but he was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: this is the static shock like phenomenon or whatever that
Speaker 1: he was kind of hinting at, And I guess that
Speaker 1: is kind of hinted at in this panel. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's so funny because that is something important. I think
Speaker 1: we've brought it up in past episodes where we talk
Speaker 1: about these older cartoons, but a lot of these cartoons
Speaker 1: aren't kind of judged by the powers that be on
Speaker 1: the same metric as regular TV shows that like, you
Speaker 1: can have good viewership, but if you aren't selling toys,
Speaker 1: then it'll be canceled. But if you are choosing not
Speaker 1: to Yeah, if you're choosing not choosing to market and
Speaker 1: sell the toys, then you're basically building something to fail.
Speaker 1: You know, well, I've seen that, and we've all seen that.
Speaker 1: Isn't that what happened with Young Justice? Exactly what happened
Speaker 1: with Young Justice? And then or I think also symbiotic
Speaker 1: Tighten or something like that, um and a lot of shows,
Speaker 1: if you don't make money from the merchandise, then you're
Speaker 1: gonna get canceled. But like you said, if you're not
Speaker 1: making merchandise, then how can anybody go and buy it?
Speaker 1: And I don't know what a show like Static Shock
Speaker 1: if they get to four seasons, there no, there's no
Speaker 1: way that children would not have wanted those toys. There's
Speaker 1: no way. Absolutely, I don't believe that in any way, shape,
Speaker 1: form or fashion. They just made that A hundred percent
Speaker 1: sounds to me like they made the conscious decision and
Speaker 1: say we're gonna give you X amount episodes, We're gonna
Speaker 1: fulfill our contract and we're cutting you loose. We're done
Speaker 1: with it. That's what that sounds like to me. And then,
Speaker 1: of course fans are fans. If they love something, they're
Speaker 1: gonna love it, and they're not gonna stop loving it
Speaker 1: because you refuse to make merchandise for it. They are
Speaker 1: going to complain to you about it. And if Static
Speaker 1: Shock is seeing a resurgence and popularity, yeah, now they
Speaker 1: may be convinced at this juncture to be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I guess we can put out some merchandise for this.
Speaker 1: But it does I can totally see because the show
Speaker 1: came out and then you didn't see anything else. I
Speaker 1: feel like, I don't know. Maybe it's the thing with
Speaker 1: DC is like trying to push their core superheroes. They
Speaker 1: try to catch up with Marvel, and they're not gonna like,
Speaker 1: you know, although you know, Black Panther came out and
Speaker 1: did number so maybe like, oh, we got these black
Speaker 1: heroes in the closet over here, maybe we just pull
Speaker 1: them on out and like show them to you see, remember,
Speaker 1: give us the money. I can see that happening. I
Speaker 1: could absolutely see that happening. But um, I'm very interested
Speaker 1: in what like, I would want to see that panel
Speaker 1: about Yeah, I wonder if if there's one where that's recorded,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna find that and watch that because yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the thing. I believe it. Well, I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: diving more into the TV show. So you mentioned ebon
Speaker 1: Um as one of the villains. Can you tell people
Speaker 1: little roles? Can you tell people a little bit more?
Speaker 1: To me? Like, I felt like as a villain he
Speaker 1: had the most potential. Um. I mean, they only get
Speaker 1: the four seasons. I would have liked to see more
Speaker 1: with that character because he was brothers with another villain,
Speaker 1: Rubber Bandman, who eventually turned good. Um. Ebon had these
Speaker 1: shadow powers and uh, he had a gang of other
Speaker 1: villains working with him, and he was kind of recruiting
Speaker 1: meta humans to be in the gang. He was like,
Speaker 1: you guys don't even look like humans. That He was like, uh,
Speaker 1: evil callisto. Remember with the morelocks. You know, it's like
Speaker 1: you don't fit in with society, so just you know,
Speaker 1: run with me. Yeah, but instead of like trying to
Speaker 1: lead like a normal life off on their own, he
Speaker 1: was like, run with me and commit crimes. Was just like,
Speaker 1: how are we supposed to live in life and be
Speaker 1: happy if we're over here constantly robbing banks or whatnot, Like,
Speaker 1: how is this supposed to work? Yeah, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: not getting there, but but you know, for the sake
Speaker 1: of the cartoon, yes I get it, but you know,
Speaker 1: nobody in the group say it. This is stupid. But
Speaker 1: it's so funny because it shows how dynamic villains have been,
Speaker 1: because yeah, that was a lot of like a lot
Speaker 1: not just static. Just across many of our superhero cartoons.
Speaker 1: Their main goal was to rob banks and rob banks,
Speaker 1: people rob banks and and and it's so funny it
Speaker 1: goes to change where like the what was that movie? Gosh,
Speaker 1: it was so good. It was by the same people
Speaker 1: who did Cicario, and it was the movie about the
Speaker 1: brothers who were robbing banks, and oh, it's so good.
Speaker 1: Um in the movie, we eventually well I don't want
Speaker 1: to spoil it because it's a good one, but like
Speaker 1: we eventually are like, oh, banks are bad, and then
Speaker 1: banks banks are foreclosing homes and just eating off of it.
Speaker 1: So so it's funny because I'd love to see this
Speaker 1: revisited where you do get like Ebon who's robbing banks,
Speaker 1: but you find out that he's doing it because he's
Speaker 1: like this bank is evil because of this, like banks
Speaker 1: are evil. Yeah, yeah, we could do a whole episode
Speaker 1: on that. Yeah, over draft fees and how they are
Speaker 1: a scam. Yeah, over draft fees And can you tell
Speaker 1: me about Hot Streak a k a. Francis Sto White
Speaker 1: villains angry. He's like this angry white dude and I
Speaker 1: don't know why he was so mad. I mean, okay,
Speaker 1: so I'm picturing Eminem. He was almost except with hair
Speaker 1: and flames. They were flames, and he had flames on
Speaker 1: the side of his face. No um, and uh. He
Speaker 1: just always had a stink attitude at all times. He
Speaker 1: starts out as one of the bullies. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: she looks like a young guy Fieri, a slim guy guy.
Speaker 1: He does look like a night you know who he
Speaker 1: reminds me of. He reminds me of the villain and
Speaker 1: good Burger, Um, the what's his name? The guy that
Speaker 1: works at Mondo Burger y'all will know remember on megamind
Speaker 1: the dude that he was the nerdy um cameraman that
Speaker 1: gets the magic powers. And he looks like he looks
Speaker 1: like that dude in syndrome. He had like all of
Speaker 1: them the well he was before them, so they look
Speaker 1: like him. But yeah, he always had like a sting
Speaker 1: attitude for no reason to me, like he was just
Speaker 1: like they go Virgil call some problems, you know, like
Speaker 1: just for no reason. He would come to school. I'm
Speaker 1: kicking death today, like start camping. This was a school kid.
Speaker 1: This kid looks like he's in college. This goes along
Speaker 1: with the nineties. It's like when Freddie Prince trying to
Speaker 1: play a sixteen year I mean like, well, you know,
Speaker 1: you know he's a kid because he has a backpack.
Speaker 1: You know. Now, I don't know any kid that has
Speaker 1: a soul patch. Like I said that, I was like,
Speaker 1: what's going on with his facial hair? This man, Oh god,
Speaker 1: he looks like he goes to the club and just
Speaker 1: puts pills and girls drinks. He looks like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. If hot Streak is somebody's favorite, I don't imagine.
Speaker 1: So wait, what are his Okay, So he's a fiery
Speaker 1: temper and he has flame paths, and he is one
Speaker 1: of the ones that's like he's like the recurring villain
Speaker 1: that's like the most irritating I think from what I've
Speaker 1: seen for Static is like when he shows up, he's
Speaker 1: more of a problem than like the other ones, like
Speaker 1: Puff and Um and one with the big old boots,
Speaker 1: the ones with the size sixteen ft like he would
Speaker 1: just be like smacking him away, Let get out of here.
Speaker 1: But then uh, Hot Streak would show up and it
Speaker 1: would be like a bigger fight, you know, he would
Speaker 1: have to work a little bit harder for Hot Streak.
Speaker 1: And of course while searching pictures of him, I stumbled
Speaker 1: upon some Hot Streak tumbler. Hot Streak stands by the way,
Speaker 1: the movie was Hell or High Water. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: y'all are wild. I should have already want the tumbler.
Speaker 1: That was the problem that only comes up on the
Speaker 1: Google images. I guess there's a couple of people doing
Speaker 1: some things. You need to go. Hot Streak was definitely
Speaker 1: like I love that he still had like the sagging pants. Everybody, everybody,
Speaker 1: the adult everybody did. I think somebody even made a
Speaker 1: Joe live Are you gonna pull your pants up? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And he's like, no, I'm not. What was her name?
Speaker 1: This is what was the name of scars Son? And
Speaker 1: like the Lion King, the second, well I'm talking about
Speaker 1: I don't know anyway, someone did static shock, like but
Speaker 1: of that guy. It's like a lion version of static shock. Anyways,
Speaker 1: that's an interesting crossover. You know that. I love you
Speaker 1: Tumbler for giving me the most cross overs. It'll be
Speaker 1: like I used to have this artwork. It was like
Speaker 1: Jack Skellington as Iron Man. It was like, whoever needs
Speaker 1: this overs? I do who the worst part of fan
Speaker 1: fiction done in it? I love him. I love how
Speaker 1: the wilder the better. Okay, So so we had hashtre
Speaker 1: dctor Nemo, which one was Dr Nemo? Which one was
Speaker 1: what was he doing? What was this? Doctor? Nathan Flack
Speaker 1: was a renowned quantum physicist who theorized existence of a
Speaker 1: type of matter called de quantified plasma or quantum juice.
Speaker 1: Oh so he might be one that might not have
Speaker 1: made in the show show, but it was in the comics. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because the quantum juice was in the show was in
Speaker 1: the comics, and that's what And that was across. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was so across. Milestone of this guy was the
Speaker 1: guy who like you know, made the Big Bang happen,
Speaker 1: whereas like in there it was like chemicals. What was
Speaker 1: his name like it was Ajax Chemicals, I think, And
Speaker 1: he was like an evil old rich dude, looked like,
Speaker 1: you know, like a healthier Mr Burns. And uh, he
Speaker 1: had a son that was, you know, could not live
Speaker 1: up to his father's expectations. And his company was involved
Speaker 1: in like the actual whole bang baby situation. And I,
Speaker 1: of course if that's the case, like you were saying
Speaker 1: before that it was a government conspiracy thing, is the
Speaker 1: reason why their bang babies. And they definitely weren't gonna
Speaker 1: allow that on the show. It makes sense that Dr
Speaker 1: Nemo is not I didn't see him in those Also,
Speaker 1: don't google the term bang babies without safe right, Like,
Speaker 1: don't do it to yourself. I would you how I
Speaker 1: could have warned you not to do so, I was going, hey,
Speaker 1: this is on iheart's WiFi. Um, So, Rick Stone, did
Speaker 1: we talk about him in the last episode, because this
Speaker 1: is a close friend of Virgils who later comes out
Speaker 1: as being queer. Uh. And it says that first Virgil
Speaker 1: is unable to deal with Rick's homosexuality, but later comes
Speaker 1: to deal with his own homophobia to save Rick and
Speaker 1: a bunch of other gay people from a gay bashing
Speaker 1: being orchestrated by Hot Streak and his cohorts. Now was
Speaker 1: this I mean he looks like I said, what is that?
Speaker 1: What is the movie where they're like they it's a
Speaker 1: dude Wears My Car where they go into the seven elevens.
Speaker 1: They're always like extreme stuff over that. He looks like that.
Speaker 1: But um Rick is his friend that gets the magic power,
Speaker 1: gets superpowers and he becomes Gear. On the show, Yeah,
Speaker 1: like um and the other girl like it's interesting Like
Speaker 1: the first season, um he was just like the quipping, smart,
Speaker 1: atlicky best friend that kind of had like little jabs
Speaker 1: for Virgil. And you also saw that he was a
Speaker 1: little bit jealous of his powers because there was an
Speaker 1: episode where there was an old man that had powers
Speaker 1: that could give other nonpower people powers and he gets
Speaker 1: powers and he like you know, tries to show static up.
Speaker 1: They eventually like work it out, but he loses those
Speaker 1: powers and it's not until like season three where he
Speaker 1: becomes Gear and his powers is like I'm smart, so
Speaker 1: he makes like gadgets and stuff. So um and there
Speaker 1: was no like I'm secretly queer. Not that was not
Speaker 1: that in the show. That was what it was two
Speaker 1: thousand they weren't gonna let that happen. They weren't gonna
Speaker 1: be honest about it, but the other one freed to Um.
Speaker 1: She was in like the first episode and she was
Speaker 1: kind of introduced is like the friend also slash love interest, um,
Speaker 1: but she disappeared after like a couple of episodes. And
Speaker 1: then this other black Latina comes onto the scene named Daisy,
Speaker 1: and she takes that place and you still see Freedom,
Speaker 1: but she's in the background, but she doesn't have the
Speaker 1: role that she had uh in that comic. She's like
Speaker 1: off in somewhere else. But Daisy is like, it's like
Speaker 1: that girl in the show. So they did do some
Speaker 1: changes there, but I don't she didn't get any powers.
Speaker 1: We have to take another really quick break and they
Speaker 1: were in a hot back into more characters from Static
Speaker 1: Shock and also some of our favorite episodes right after
Speaker 1: this and we're back. So do you remember telling that
Speaker 1: was she was in um talking No no, no, no, Yeah,
Speaker 1: she was in Ebon's gang. Uh. She was. She was
Speaker 1: like a harpy and she you know, she was like
Speaker 1: she was like a flunkey of of she was not
Speaker 1: one of the ones that Static Shiv and Talent were
Speaker 1: like the and they would get their bus kicked like
Speaker 1: all the time, like all the time. Evon and Hot Streak,
Speaker 1: I think we're like as far as recurring villains were concerned,
Speaker 1: were like the worst ones for so here part of
Speaker 1: her Lord's Teresa grew wings and parts of her body
Speaker 1: were covered with feathers. She was considered a mutant freak. Um.
Speaker 1: The criminal lifestyle led her to the Joker, who she
Speaker 1: helped to kidnap Batman and Robin, but was eventually defeated
Speaker 1: by Robin. Um. They did some crossovers with They did
Speaker 1: quite a few crossovers, like there was a Superman crossover, Batman,
Speaker 1: Justice League crossover. Joker was absolutely one showed up as
Speaker 1: a villain and a clown Staddy. Every time they did
Speaker 1: a crossover, Staddy get clown so bad, Like wow, like
Speaker 1: they really disrespected this man on his own show, Like
Speaker 1: I get he's a teenager. And and that's also a
Speaker 1: very nineties thing. Whenever there's a crossover, like the main
Speaker 1: hero has to like take a back seat to the guest,
Speaker 1: so so nobody's gonna whire they even there, you know,
Speaker 1: because Batman and Robins show up and talent and like
Speaker 1: some of another Ebon's gang are like enlisted because Ebon
Speaker 1: isn't around, like he's in jail or something like that.
Speaker 1: He just wasn't there, and Joker recruits them to help him,
Speaker 1: uh you know, pull off some shenanigans. So then it's
Speaker 1: up to a static Batman Abbin to save the day.
Speaker 1: But um, that was one of the crossovers. But there
Speaker 1: was also one with the Justice League where they had
Speaker 1: Brainiac was the big bad Um. And then there was
Speaker 1: one with uh Green Lantern. I was about to say
Speaker 1: yeah that one, and um, was there one more? No,
Speaker 1: I don't think so. The Green Lantern one Fallen Hero
Speaker 1: aired two thousand and four, season four YEP, episode four,
Speaker 1: where the Green Lantern goes on a crime spree and
Speaker 1: Virgil is disappointed that one of his heroes has turned bad. Obviously,
Speaker 1: it wasn't yeah, yeah, just to revisit this, you know
Speaker 1: how you said, you know, things got better after the
Speaker 1: first two seasons. Do you know who did the the
Speaker 1: title song starting with the third season. I do not.
Speaker 1: I just not it as dope because I was like, now,
Speaker 1: I like this was a little Romeo. I had a
Speaker 1: few that was when Little Romeo was and then he
Speaker 1: had his Nickelodeon show, the show we still got the
Speaker 1: royalty checks. I mean he probably is, but I definitely
Speaker 1: do see him on the community college ads on the train,
Speaker 1: you know he's holding it. Yeah, he was like, look
Speaker 1: I needed a vocation too. I'm like, no, you didn't
Speaker 1: listen to check as a check. They had a couple
Speaker 1: of um people that were kind of introduced almost as antagonists,
Speaker 1: that were actually like good guys. Um. There was one Oh,
Speaker 1: and she's actually I think she might be my favorite
Speaker 1: character that's not static. Um she bang, it's spelled she bang.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, soul trifling with these names. But she
Speaker 1: was really cool. She was a little to a teenager.
Speaker 1: I think her name was Sharie, and um, she was
Speaker 1: not a bang baby. She was a government experiment and
Speaker 1: she had like she was nineties Superfowlers was like basically Parkour,
Speaker 1: so like she shows up with all the flips and
Speaker 1: the kicks and all that jazz. And she was also
Speaker 1: super strong too, so she did have that power. And
Speaker 1: I thought she was really like when she shows up
Speaker 1: in her episodes, I think she has like three or
Speaker 1: four across the whole series. Her episodes are so fun,
Speaker 1: it's just so fun because she plays off a Virgil
Speaker 1: and Uh and Richie like so well because they're all teenagers.
Speaker 1: Like when they would crossovers with like the Justice League
Speaker 1: is like these are big grown adults, you know, just
Speaker 1: like bodying these kids. So I was like, this is
Speaker 1: not like it's cool because like the animation goes up
Speaker 1: even more for the crossover one, like we gotta get
Speaker 1: the eight Team on this one, because you know Superman
Speaker 1: is gonna show up. Um. But with her episodes, they
Speaker 1: just had it seemed like they cared a little bit
Speaker 1: more like they were just so much fun. They were
Speaker 1: like the chemistry with them, um, just like the little
Speaker 1: jokes and everything. It was really good. The other one
Speaker 1: that I thought was cool because they had a not
Speaker 1: he on there because the static in Africa. They don't
Speaker 1: ever say that they're in Ghana, but that's what they
Speaker 1: gotta just he's just in all of Africa, you know,
Speaker 1: statics in Africa, you know, but that was you know
Speaker 1: in the two thousands, you can get away with that.
Speaker 1: You didn't have to say a country, um, wherever you
Speaker 1: wanted to be. They do eventually say they're in Acara, Ghana, um.
Speaker 1: And a Nazi is a superhero when they show up
Speaker 1: there and um, I forgot who the bad guy was.
Speaker 1: But he had Jaguar powers or something like that, you know,
Speaker 1: always with the jungle Cats with Africans. Come on, let's
Speaker 1: get creative. But no, a Nazi. I thought a Nazi
Speaker 1: was super cool because he had all these illusion powers
Speaker 1: and and just making people think that they were, you know,
Speaker 1: something that they not. I just thought the Nazi was
Speaker 1: super cool. That's all I can say about it. And
Speaker 1: I like that he Um, him and Static worked really
Speaker 1: well together, and I just thought he was don't you
Speaker 1: also spell it for the people listening, Nazi a in
Speaker 1: a s I no, oh oh my god, no, no, no, no, okay,
Speaker 1: y'all watch American Gods or in the Vietnam. Okay. So
Speaker 1: here's the thing. American Gods is cool. The book is good,
Speaker 1: the show is good. The sequel to the book, A
Speaker 1: Nazis Boys is way better than American Guys. I don't
Speaker 1: care what nobody's say, Like they could have skipped over
Speaker 1: American Gods for TV show straight or made a film
Speaker 1: out of that, because that is dope. It's super duper
Speaker 1: good and the Nazis are cool. Like and as God's
Speaker 1: super cool as a superhero. I thought he was really
Speaker 1: fun and I like that they had this unique, obviously
Speaker 1: African deity and a superhero. That's I think what I
Speaker 1: took away from I was like, now, that is the
Speaker 1: coolest part. It is shout out that in Africa. I
Speaker 1: was just gonna say one other thing about um, so, yeah,
Speaker 1: that episode Dwyne McDuffie did right static in Africa, Yes,
Speaker 1: And I could tell like with that one because it
Speaker 1: seemed like somebody cared a little more episode like somebody cared,
Speaker 1: and I did want to say. In two thousand three,
Speaker 1: McDuffie was awarded the Humanitist Prize and Children's Animation for
Speaker 1: the Jimmy episode. I don't know if you remember that
Speaker 1: one about Yes, that was the one they were I
Speaker 1: think that was season two and Jimmy was being bullied
Speaker 1: in school and he brings the gun to school because
Speaker 1: he's he's had enough and um, Richie ends up getting shot. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So that was season two. Yeah, that was season two.
Speaker 1: They had a couple of episodes in season two. I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, y'all getting serious in there, like that
Speaker 1: one and the Homeless one where um, the one where
Speaker 1: the school shooting one and then the one where there's
Speaker 1: a homeless um met a human bank baby who um
Speaker 1: she has uh frost powers and she causes some problems.
Speaker 1: Like she was one of these antagonists that actually is
Speaker 1: like not a bad person, but she was just trying
Speaker 1: to survive. And she like one of the things that
Speaker 1: I've always noticed because we see a lot of homeless
Speaker 1: people out here, especially in this neighborhood. Um, those people
Speaker 1: are ignored, they are stepped over, they're ignored there. It's
Speaker 1: like you're race And these were the words literally coming
Speaker 1: out of this little girl's mouth. Our family dies, and
Speaker 1: you know, she goes into into the system and that
Speaker 1: they're not able to help her and she ends up
Speaker 1: being homeless and um, yeah, she starts causing problems after
Speaker 1: she gets her powers. And I thought that was a
Speaker 1: really like one of those touching episodes, and that one
Speaker 1: I just like, and I'm glad that they did something
Speaker 1: like that. Oh yeah, yeah, no, they weren't afraid to
Speaker 1: touch on that. I did want to tell upon that
Speaker 1: Nancy episode and say, do you want to guess who
Speaker 1: joined guess who voiced the panther character. It's step Black
Speaker 1: dude that always is in everything, both both of them.
Speaker 1: The one with the eyebrows, Um, what terrible? That's terrible, right,
Speaker 1: I mean also that's just everyone has. You were like
Speaker 1: if you were like, who's the dad on Ship's Creek
Speaker 1: that oh Eugene Levy Ye yeah, eyebrows. Okay, so there's
Speaker 1: um not the one that was entails from the hood.
Speaker 1: But he liked like he has like just this great
Speaker 1: rich voice. Michael Hite was the pain saw him down.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh my god, was voiced by Carl Lumbley.
Speaker 1: That's who I was thinking of. Marcia Manhunter Injustice League,
Speaker 1: he was in Alias, he was in this show called Mantis. Uh.
Speaker 1: He was. He's He's been in a lot of so much.
Speaker 1: He was in a Bucker Rubas Eye from the what
Speaker 1: was the Fifth Dimension. I forgot this super super duper nerdy,
Speaker 1: like so nerdy nobody even gets it. But like people posted,
Speaker 1: I'm like, nobody knows what you're about. Okay to stop.
Speaker 1: But Michael j. I saw him over to the Viscom
Speaker 1: building the other day and I was one of coworkers
Speaker 1: and they were like, who's that. You don't know? Black Dynamite.
Speaker 1: He was in our Black Panther documentary for Nurice. He
Speaker 1: brought his That's so dope. I wanted to say with Michael,
Speaker 1: why he's great? He was great to interview. UM. Season
Speaker 1: two also had an episode called Static Shack look at this. Yes,
Speaker 1: his head is compared to the red. This is before
Speaker 1: before the General came into his life. Ready to go. Okay,
Speaker 1: I went to uh. I went to uh this. I
Speaker 1: didn't even know what it was. My friend was like, hey,
Speaker 1: do you want to go to this? Like, um, this
Speaker 1: benefit It's like a athlete benefit and I was like sure.
Speaker 1: It was a black tie event honoring legacy athletes. Shack
Speaker 1: was there, Michael Irving was there, Eddie Murphy was there,
Speaker 1: like also being honored with them but also presenting stuff.
Speaker 1: Every single athlete ever that's ever done anything was there
Speaker 1: and I was in like shorts. I was hit. It
Speaker 1: was also because I was just like, oh, this is
Speaker 1: such a writer guy that was like, oh, I'm just
Speaker 1: wearing whatever. I'm like, this is literally black tie there
Speaker 1: with their gorgeous wives. Shock was there, but I was
Speaker 1: going to say, a Shock is very funny, like he
Speaker 1: just roasted the heck out of the last person was
Speaker 1: roast Oh my gosh. I was luckily in the back
Speaker 1: he um like Mike Tyson. He was presenting. He was presenting.
Speaker 1: The Mike Tyson totally roasted Mike Tyson and was just
Speaker 1: very funny, but but also an embarrassing time in my life.
Speaker 1: I had some crossover episodes. It wasn't just not crossover
Speaker 1: like the Special Gift. They had a Backstreet Boy on air.
Speaker 1: If was it Brian, No, it was the one J. Yes,
Speaker 1: a J almost call him j T girl. This is
Speaker 1: how you know I'm old. I'm like aldern ages run together.
Speaker 1: But there are so many, there were so many listen.
Speaker 1: And then at that time you had all of these
Speaker 1: little boy bands and nine Degrees. Everybody forgets about nine degrees,
Speaker 1: like missing ninety degrees backs all of them and they
Speaker 1: were like ninety degrees. Yes, that was a band. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember it was a band. My step mom worked
Speaker 1: in this community outreach program and so like whenever they
Speaker 1: would do things for the kids, you would let us
Speaker 1: go and they took us to some event. It was
Speaker 1: at the old Forum back when it was blue uh
Speaker 1: and when it was the Great Western Forum, and we
Speaker 1: went in and I didn't know what it was but
Speaker 1: they're giving us these cassette tapes and it was ninety
Speaker 1: eight degrees cassette tape. And wow, they give you a
Speaker 1: pencil tool so you could turn it back like I
Speaker 1: just used my finger there. We go to put the
Speaker 1: pinky nail on it. But are they the ones who
Speaker 1: did quit playing? I don't know your voice, I don't
Speaker 1: know none of you got that was them? Okay, girl,
Speaker 1: they an't run together, but they had him on there.
Speaker 1: And this was one because rubber band Man started out
Speaker 1: as a musician who got his as a producer, who
Speaker 1: got his track stole by another rapper and that's why
Speaker 1: he had a stink attitude and was gonna go bad
Speaker 1: and he did because well listen, he wanted his credit,
Speaker 1: he wanted his money, come on now and like that.
Speaker 1: That was a recurring thing for him. After he the
Speaker 1: first time he got caught and then he uh did
Speaker 1: his time or whatever. He came back and actually had
Speaker 1: a music career for about five minutes because he changed
Speaker 1: his face because he had rubber power, so he can
Speaker 1: change his face. And this man, I swear the guy
Speaker 1: got on the stage. I was like, okay, he's gonna
Speaker 1: have a little music career. Okay, this man got on
Speaker 1: the stage with a keyboard and some um fireworks, I said,
Speaker 1: for real, like, and everybody at the concert like yeah,
Speaker 1: which was like a school gymnasium and everything caught on
Speaker 1: fire and it was drama. But when uh, but this
Speaker 1: man was constantly pursuing his music goal. Yes, and that's
Speaker 1: what was what why a J was there because he
Speaker 1: finally got the hook up and was going to get
Speaker 1: put on because a J liked his music. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: then the man just took his woman from me, took
Speaker 1: her down to Tennessee. She was the best girl you
Speaker 1: ever knew. I wasn't for him, she'd still be true.
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