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Speaker 2: It is Thursday night, April twenty second, the Year of

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Speaker 1: Jam Pack.

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Speaker 2: I'm getting a lot of feedback because I'm just not

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Speaker 2: checking my inbox for the first time today. Really good

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Speaker 2: feedback about the lay Kick Extra podcast we did this morning,

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Speaker 2: But if you haven't already checked that out, check out

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Speaker 2: the lake Kick Extra podcast in this morning. As for

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Speaker 2: this show here tonight, we got a lot of obviously

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Speaker 2: We're going to expand it nationally. North Carolina, tease it

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Speaker 1: It used to be that you thought you could get by.

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Speaker 2: You know, we're gonna face George or they're gonna run

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Speaker 1: But also then you can look at quarterback.

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Speaker 2: I don't know to what degree Jimbo Fisher views that

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Speaker 2: So that's the thing that I'm watching the most with them.

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Speaker 2: I can't remember that insane stat. Bama gained almost every

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Speaker 1: Like it's going to be a busy Saturday. Last Saturday

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Speaker 2: This Saturday is busy too, Hills, we got Jesse, we

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Speaker 2: First off, Secondly, I just want to look with my

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Speaker 2: I think he's out Saturday. But he's a guy that

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Speaker 2: Now you got to see the production on the field.

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Speaker 1: They've seen it. I'd like to see it Saturday.

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Speaker 2: If you walk away and you see a product that

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Speaker 2: How about up the road in Norman, Oklahoma, Jalen Redman,

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Speaker 2: remember Ronnie Perkins last year, Ronnie Perkins, he was the

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Speaker 2: focal point upfront. If you watched Oklahoma games but you

439
00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,560
Speaker 2: didn't know the roster necessarily and you said who is that, well,

440
00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,399
Speaker 2: chances are it was Ronnie Perkins. Well, this year that

441
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Speaker 2: name needs to be Jalen Redman. That's a guy that

442
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Speaker 2: is in a prime position to really burst on the

443
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Speaker 2: national scene. On their defensive front. They got some other

444
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Speaker 2: guys like I was over there, I was reading some today.

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Speaker 1: Nick Benito.

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Speaker 2: That's a guy I think at linebacker who could really

447
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Speaker 2: emerge for them. So just looking sort of in the

448
00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,280
Speaker 2: defensive front seven as opposed to another front seven if

449
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Speaker 2: you know of one out there. But if you look

450
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Speaker 2: at them and you see a couple of guys popping,

451
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Speaker 2: you see a couple of guys and you say, well,

452
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Speaker 2: who is that? Chances are it could be one of

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Speaker 2: those two guys. Saturday, Spencer Ratler and Caleb Williams we

454
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Speaker 2: both get to see. So Spencer Ratler is the starting

455
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Speaker 2: quarterback year. He is one of, if not the outright

456
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Speaker 2: Heisman favorites across the country right now. But they've also

457
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Speaker 2: got the number one quarterback in the country coming in. Now,

458
00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,439
Speaker 2: this is not a position battle per se at the

459
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Speaker 2: moment or anything like that, but it's always nice remember

460
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Speaker 2: anytime some of these star quarterbacks when you can get

461
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Speaker 2: them and they don't have to start right away. There's

462
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Speaker 2: several of those instances right now. Bryce Young at Bama

463
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Speaker 2: was that guy? What would have been that guy last

464
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Speaker 2: year if we were to have been able to see

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Speaker 2: spring Drake may you know we're going to talk about

466
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Speaker 2: Carolina in just a second. He's one of those guys

467
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Speaker 2: that will see Garrett Nusmyer at LSU. Well, this is

468
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Speaker 2: another one. Caleb Williams at Oklahoma. We get to see him,

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Speaker 2: and I'm skipping past Rattler only because we've seen him

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Speaker 2: for an entire year. Really interested to see some of

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Speaker 2: the first college reps that we see Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 1: Take How about North Carolina?

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Speaker 2: Since we were talking about Mac Brown's team there, this

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Speaker 2: is going to be the most watched spring game in

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Speaker 2: the history of North Carolina football. I feel very confident

476
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Speaker 2: in saying that. I know that maybe not a lot

477
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Speaker 2: of you are glued to the day to day coming

478
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Speaker 2: out of Chapel Hill. There is a ton of excitement

479
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Speaker 2: about football. There a ton There are some diehard Carolina

480
00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 2: North Carolina football fans that are there every year. But

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Speaker 2: at a place like Carolina where another sport has the

482
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Speaker 2: brightest spotlight, I mean, it takes a year like this,

483
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Speaker 2: It takes momentum energy like this, and it takes a

484
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Speaker 2: team like this, but they've got it all the like

485
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Speaker 2: this is. They're filled Like Alabama basketball is a huge

486
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,600
Speaker 2: deal this year. Well, North Carolina football is a huge

487
00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,119
Speaker 2: deal and it's going to be a huge deal for

488
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Speaker 2: years to come. But this spring game right here is

489
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Speaker 2: one where you can look and you can see a

490
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Speaker 2: lot of commodities that you know about Sam Howell at

491
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Speaker 2: quarterback for example, we do get to see Drake may

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Speaker 2: Well hopefully unless there's something about injuries that I don't

493
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Speaker 2: know there. But what were we talking about this time

494
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Speaker 2: last year that we're sitting here again talking about it

495
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Speaker 2: is front seven, that defensive front seven, not the offensive

496
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Speaker 2: front of a defensive front seven. I'm trying to cut

497
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Speaker 2: redundancy out of the show, if you haven't noticed. So

498
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Speaker 2: these are some vocal exercises I'm just doing on air

499
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Speaker 2: live that front seven, though they knew going in, if

500
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Speaker 2: you talk to people around Carolina, they knew in spring,

501
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Speaker 2: in summer and fall, they knew were too thin there.

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Speaker 1: We don't have enough proven depth. We're gonna get gassed,

503
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Speaker 1: gashed and gassed.

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Speaker 2: Maybe in a reverse order, but it's going to happen,

505
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Speaker 2: and it did happen at various points. Now, they still

506
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 2: had a good year, but they ultimately didn't fulfill what

507
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,159
Speaker 2: that offense's potential was because they just didn't have the

508
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 2: horses upfront defensively, how far have they come there? Do

509
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Speaker 2: they have any kind of difference makers the same kind

510
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Speaker 2: of thing we're looking at sort of with these other

511
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Speaker 2: programs look at it, but I look at it in

512
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Speaker 2: a more collective manner with North Carolina because if you

513
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,920
Speaker 2: think about what they could be this year, they could

514
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Speaker 2: be in close games with the big dogs first off,

515
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Speaker 2: and they could be one of the most potent offenses

516
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Speaker 2: in America. So you ask yourself, do you have the counterpoint?

517
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Speaker 2: Do you have the complementary other unit? In this case,

518
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Speaker 2: it's defense that leverages that properly, allows you to leverage

519
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Speaker 2: all that talent properly. Also, the pass game, you know,

520
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 2: the past game is obvious though the running back position

521
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Speaker 2: that's gonna have a lot of focus, obviously, but complete

522
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Speaker 2: focus for me is just going to be on quality

523
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Speaker 2: and quantity of talent and depth on the defensive front

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Speaker 2: for them. Michigan State said a program we hadn't been

525
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Speaker 2: able to talk about much here, and I don't know

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Speaker 2: how much we're going to talk about them Sunday because

527
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Speaker 2: they're not having a spring game, per se. Mel Tucker

528
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Speaker 2: just said, well, we're going to practice Saturday. I guess

529
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Speaker 2: you can open the stadium and if people show up,

530
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Speaker 2: they can watch his practice. His preview for the spring

531
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Speaker 2: game was it's gonna be a meat and potatoes kind

532
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Speaker 2: of day, classic Michigan State. However, if you are unfamiliar

533
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Speaker 2: with what's going on up there, and I'm gonna doubly

534
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 2: touch on it in just a second, got a little

535
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Speaker 2: quarterback battle. You got a guy named Peyton Thorn and

536
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,400
Speaker 2: you got a guy named Anthony Russo it's a legitimate

537
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Speaker 2: quarterback battle, no clue.

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Speaker 1: I've asked three people today.

539
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Speaker 2: I got two said one thing, I got one that

540
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Speaker 2: said the other, and they're one of those two.

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Speaker 1: They was on the fence.

542
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Speaker 2: So no one really has a firm grasp on where

543
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Speaker 2: this is going, but it's gonna be kind of exciting

544
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Speaker 2: because they and by day I mean Michigan State also

545
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Speaker 2: working on the pronouns. They lived in the transfer portal

546
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Speaker 2: and they have and may not be done yet. They

547
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Speaker 2: got defensive end quarterback just mentioned, They got a running back,

548
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 2: they got offensive tackle, they got a corner. They went

549
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Speaker 2: in the transfer portal in basically it was like that

550
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Speaker 2: supermarket sweep show where you get your buggy. This was

551
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,160
Speaker 2: always a dream of mine and it still is. Really

552
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Speaker 2: they got a buggy and then they went into the

553
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Speaker 2: transfer portal market and then someone said sixty seconds go,

554
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Speaker 2: and they just went down every aisle and they said corner.

555
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Speaker 1: A couple of quarterbacks there, all defensive end.

556
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Speaker 2: And then they got to the register and they had

557
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Speaker 2: like a quarter of a new team in the buggy.

558
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Speaker 2: So we get to see a lot of them, is

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Speaker 2: the point Saturday. So those are some things to watch

560
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Speaker 2: with Michigan State as well. Now zooming out a little bit,

561
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Speaker 2: there are a whole lot of transfer quarterbacks out there.

562
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Speaker 2: The transfer portal's been very active. The quarterback market inside

563
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Speaker 2: the transfer portal has been doubly active.

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Speaker 1: Some of these you know about.

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Speaker 2: Others I'm not sure you know about now we're in

566
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Speaker 2: spring practice season, but this stuff right here is going

567
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Speaker 2: to matter. So this segment is going to be one

568
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Speaker 2: of those rare evergreen segments where we could probably post

569
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Speaker 2: it three months from now and it'll still be relevant.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: The first name I'm gonna mention, we've spoken a fair

572
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Speaker 2: amount about. But some of these names, I don't think

573
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Speaker 2: we have mentioned some of these names at any point

574
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Speaker 2: this spring, and yet these are guys in some cases

575
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Speaker 2: that are going to have direct impact on conference title

576
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 2: races or could win one. You look at Mackenzie Milton,

577
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Speaker 2: which is the name I'm gonna lead off with, but

578
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Speaker 2: Jack Cones at Notre Dame Charlie Brewer is one. Let

579
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Speaker 2: you know what, Let me not get ahead of myself.

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Speaker 2: Let me start with Mackenzie Milton. As you look at

581
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Speaker 2: the graphic there, Jesse's showing you, was.

582
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Speaker 1: It Central Florida now? Is at Florida State Now.

583
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Speaker 2: We went into their spring game, which was a couple

584
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Speaker 2: of weeks ago now, and I said, all I want

585
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Speaker 2: to do is see him run. I don't have any

586
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Speaker 2: doubt about his arm. He didn't have an upper extremity

587
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Speaker 2: injury or anything like that.

588
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Speaker 1: But he had a very complicated knee injury and several

589
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Speaker 1: subsequent surgeries. So that's one part physical, one part mental.

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Speaker 1: And so we got to see him run.

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Speaker 2: And as soon as I saw him run in their

592
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Speaker 2: actual spring game, see there's what he used to look like.

593
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Speaker 1: If you're watching on YouTube. He was a guy.

594
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Speaker 2: It's not gonna run a four to three five on you,

595
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Speaker 2: but he's plenty mobile enough to move the pocket.

596
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Speaker 1: It's part of his game.

597
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Speaker 2: It's a very very complimentary and effective part of his game.

598
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Speaker 2: If he doesn't have that, forget it. Jordan Travis is

599
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 2: gonna be your guy at Florida State starting quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And could still be.

601
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Speaker 2: But if Mackenzie Milton did have that, I told you,

602
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Speaker 2: if we see that the spring game, I'm gonna feel

603
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Speaker 2: really good. I'm gonna feel way better than seventy five

604
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Speaker 2: percent odds that he takes that job.

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Speaker 1: Well, we saw him. We did see him run Aroun

606
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Speaker 1: a whole lot, but we saw him have to run

607
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Speaker 1: a couple of times enough to where I looked and

608
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Speaker 1: I said, okay, he can move. He can move.

609
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Speaker 2: Now, those odds of me feeling more confident in that

610
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Speaker 2: knee go up drastically. They're not one hundred percent, only

611
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Speaker 2: because one run in a spring game does not equate

612
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Speaker 2: to twelve weeks of potential wear and tear. But here's

613
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Speaker 2: what else you get. What else you get is we're

614
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Speaker 2: in April right now, May, June, July. You get another

615
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 2: four months before camp starts, and then you get to

616
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 2: manage him favorably in camp to where you're four or

617
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Speaker 2: five months further removed, and hopefully the entire tegrity and

618
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 2: structural integrity, at least to that knee is to the

619
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Speaker 2: point where it's a non factor. If you've got it

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Speaker 2: from the neck up, it's a non factor. His best week,

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Speaker 2: if you listen to the folks around Florida State talked

622
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Speaker 2: to one of them yesterday, his best week of practice

623
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Speaker 2: was the one leading up to their spring game.

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Speaker 1: So he finished with a bang. He looked really good.

625
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Speaker 2: He looked more than adequate in the spring game, to

626
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Speaker 2: the point where if he's already comparable in your mind

627
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 2: with Jordan Travis, then you think you had another five

628
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 2: months on of fully becoming familiar with the ins and

629
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Speaker 2: outs of this offense.

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Speaker 1: I think he's going to be the guy. That's my opinion.

631
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Speaker 1: I think if there's no setback over the offseason. The

632
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Speaker 1: what season the offseason?

633
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Speaker 2: If there is no setback over the summer, I think

634
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Speaker 2: Mackenzie Milton's going to be the start of there. At

635
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 2: the very least, it's going to be a very spirited

636
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 2: quarterback battle. Jack Cone, now this is a name that

637
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 2: you didn't hear last year because he didn't play last year.

638
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: But the year before, you know what he was busy doing.

639
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 1: He was busy taking the.

640
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 2: Wisconsin Badgers down to Indianapolis, Indiana, where they got a

641
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 2: lot of snow. This week, we got snow in Nashville.

642
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,959
Speaker 2: I got sunburned the other day. We had snow that night.

643
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 2: But when Jack Cone went to Indianapolis, it wasn't to

644
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 2: play in the snow. It was to play in the

645
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 2: Big Ten championship game because he took Wisconsin there. And

646
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 2: then he didn't play last year, and now he is

647
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 2: transferred to Notre Dame. So this is a multi year starter.

648
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 2: He's got a lot of reps under his belt. Seems

649
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 2: like he's got a lot of mileage under his belt.

650
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 2: Ian Book felt like he was twenty eight years old

651
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 2: when he finally left Notre Dame, and or he was

652
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 2: out of the picture at least.

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Speaker 1: And so now you've got Jack Cone in there.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to get myself excited about it.

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Speaker 1: The reason I've had a hard time.

656
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Speaker 2: Getting excited about it is because Jack Con in and

657
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 2: of himself, even though he has had really good numbers,

658
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 2: he was a seventy percent completion guy that year that

659
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 2: they went to the Big Ten Championship game. Having said

660
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 2: all that, this is not one of those ready made

661
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Speaker 2: just drop him in the bucket. He'll have everything else

662
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 2: in there. He needs type situations, offensive lines kind of

663
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 2: a question with Notre Dame. Wide receivers a question there.

664
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Speaker 2: And so he does not have this stable around him

665
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 2: of race horses ready to run. Just got to find

666
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 2: the right jockey. It's not quite that quarterback in and

667
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 2: of itself is kind of going to need to be

668
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 2: a weapon.

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Speaker 1: For Notre Dame.

670
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Speaker 2: And I just I don't know that I view Jack

671
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 2: Cone as a weapon necessarily. And not to mention, I

672
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 2: know a lot of you fancy the Notre Dame schedule

673
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 2: is soft.

674
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Speaker 1: It's not.

675
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,719
Speaker 2: It's not this year alone. They I don't know if

676
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 2: you guys know this. I think I said it the

677
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 2: other night. They start at Florida, State week one. It's

678
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 2: a Sunday night, which always throws our late broadcast schedule

679
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 2: for a loop on the opening weekend. But I'm not

680
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 2: complaining because we get Notre Dame Florida State on a

681
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,719
Speaker 2: Sunday night. They play Wisconsin. Hello, where do you transfer from?

682
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 2: They play Wisconsin, they play Cincinnati, beautiful draw right there.

683
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 2: Then they go to Virginia Tech.

684
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Speaker 1: Oh. By the way, those three games I just mentioned.

685
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 2: Back to back to back, Wisconsin, Cincinnati at Virginia Tech.

686
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 2: Then they play USC in North Carolina back to back.

687
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 2: So it's not an easy schedule by any stretch, and

688
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 2: it is hard for me to endorse any Notre Dame

689
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 2: playoff hype merely because of Jack Combe. Could be wrong.

690
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 2: I've been wrong before. I'd be happy to be wrong again,

691
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 2: but I'm not endorsing that yet. The next one's the

692
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 2: most fascinating one there is. Charlie Brewer is a name

693
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 2: familiar in Big twelve circles and or if you're a

694
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 2: diehard college football fan. But if you just watch a

695
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 2: lot of Florida football and you don't really tune in much,

696
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 2: you do not remember the name Charlie Brewer in all

697
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 2: likelihood well.

698
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: Let me refresh your memory.

699
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 2: Charlie Brewer was a multi year starter at Baylor. Charlie

700
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 2: Brewer was a guy that got Baylor into the Big

701
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 2: twelve championship conversation in seventeen, eighteen and nineteen.

702
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 1: He was money. Started as a true freshman. He was money.

703
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty comes around, they got a new staff out there.

704
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 2: Covid totally guts the roster, and Baylor football is not

705
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 2: all that great, and Charlie Brewer is not all that great. Well,

706
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 2: he has transferred now and he has gone to Utah.

707
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 2: And we did not preview the Utah spring game the

708
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 2: other day, and shame on us for not doing so,

709
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 2: because all Charles Brewer did is go fifteen of fifteen.

710
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 2: He threw for like half a mile or something like that.

711
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 2: And I know that this is not necessarily a stat

712
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 2: sheet kind of format in a spring game, but I

713
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 2: had our stats and Info department crunch the numbers, and

714
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 2: that is a tie for the best completion percentage in

715
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 2: the history of spring games, fifteen to fifteen. So it's

716
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 2: one hundred percent. It's what it comes out to. And

717
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 2: they tell me you can't do better than that. So

718
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 2: at the very least again at Utah. Now we've got

719
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Speaker 2: a quarterback battle because.

720
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Speaker 1: Cam Rising is a name that I don't know, like

721
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: three months ago you would have thought would be the

722
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: starting quarterback for Utah.

723
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 2: This is a situation and it always is at Utah,

724
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 2: where you know, without having any clue about a single

725
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 2: name on the roster, it's Kyle Whittingham, It's Utah. They're

726
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 2: going to have a really solid, viable product.

727
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 1: But then, what.

728
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 2: Would happen if you put a legitimate quarterback in there,

729
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 2: and let's just say some of those anonymous names overachieve

730
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 2: relative to what typical Utah standard to be. What would happen, Well,

731
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 2: they'd win the PAC twelfth South, That's what would happen.

732
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 2: They're a bonafide contender there. That's a team that's just

733
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 2: as likely to face Oregon or whoever the North spits

734
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 2: out as Southern Cow is. Southern Cow's gonna get ten

735
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 2: times the hype and the love and the preseason for

736
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 2: obvious reasons. But that one's one to really keep an

737
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 2: eye on because that's one that could be felt and

738
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 2: have sort of a ripple effect outside of just Salt Lake.

739
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Speaker 1: City, Utah.

740
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 2: And last but not least, does anyone know who Jack

741
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 2: Abraham is?

742
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: It sounds like a National League umpire.

743
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 2: Jack Abraham was a Southern Miss and he was good

744
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 2: at Southern Miss, but you probably didn't know it because

745
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 2: it was Southern Miss. Now is at Mississippi State. And

746
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 2: this has yet another situation where it snuck up on me.

747
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 2: I didn't well, nor did you really expect this transfer

748
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 2: or that transfer to happen. But Jack Abraham had a

749
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 2: good thing at Southern Miss, aside from the white balance

750
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 2: they do or the lack thereof on their game feeds.

751
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 2: As you can see right now if you're watching it

752
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 2: on YouTube, you gotta go on the road if you

753
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 2: get good white balance for Southern Miss foot ball. But

754
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 2: I'm not here to talk about their multimedia department, God

755
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 2: bless those people. I'm here to talk about the quarterback

756
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 2: who is now in Starkville. So they have their spring

757
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 2: game last week do the Mississippi State Bulldogs And you

758
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 2: got that kid, Will Rogers, who you probably remember from

759
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 2: last year going into Georgia and pushing Kirby smartin company

760
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 2: to the brink. They lost the game, but you walked

761
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 2: away if you were like me, thinking that Will Rogers

762
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 2: kills pretty good.

763
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,479
Speaker 1: Hey, at the very least, kJ Costello's out of here.

764
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 2: You got Will Rogers in a nice preview of the future,

765
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 2: and maybe it still is. But then all of a sudden,

766
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 2: you're flipping through ESPN nineteen last week, and there's who is,

767
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 2: oh man, Will Rogers looks pretty good, and you hear

768
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 2: the voice in your ear. That's not Will Rogers' friend.

769
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 2: That's a guy named Jack Abraham, not the National League umpire,

770
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 2: Jack Abraham from Southern miss and he looked phenomenal. And

771
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 2: here's what everyone around Starkville was saying afterwards. You know,

772
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 2: that's a classic Mike Leach quarterback. And once upon a

773
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 2: time there was a guy named Gardner Minshew who came

774
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 2: in as a great transfer at that point when Leech

775
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 2: was at Washington State. And he came in and here's

776
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,479
Speaker 2: what happened, just a perfect sink, one of those again,

777
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 2: perfect cross section matches of talent and staff and system, and.

778
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: He blew up out there.

779
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 2: And a lot of people are hoping that that is duplicated,

780
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 2: albeit this time at Mississippi State in the SEC West.

781
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: But Jack Abraham looked really good. I didn't expect it.

782
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 2: No one expected I don't even think half the Mississippi

783
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 2: State fan base expected it, but now we got it.

784
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 2: So a lot of quarterback battles now have been born

785
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 2: and will be waged over the coming months because of

786
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 2: the transfer portal. And keep in mind, we're probably not

787
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 2: done there, so we're coming out of spring, and once

788
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 2: we get out of spring again, it's widely expected that

789
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 2: that number is only going to go up, and as

790
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 2: a result, we have to do another segment just like

791
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 2: this one down the road. Lastly, I wanted to circle

792
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 2: around and I wanted to talk about this. As you've noticed,

793
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 2: this is a college football show. Fine our lane or

794
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 2: college football. We don't do a whole lot of NFL draft,

795
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 2: and by a whole lot, I mean we don't do

796
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 2: any NFL draft, and I'm not talking NFL draft here

797
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 2: per se. But I did want to take a little

798
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 2: college angle on it.

799
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 1: Colin. Here's where you can cut the clip right here.

800
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 2: Mott Draft season, it's ongoing. It's almost over, though, so

801
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 2: mock draft season and the mock community registered is something

802
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 2: that we have taken umbrage.

803
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 1: With at various points on the show.

804
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 2: But I wanted to clarify I already kind of did

805
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 2: it on Twitter earlier this week, and I want to

806
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 2: clarify for everyone watching. When I talk about the mock community,

807
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 2: it's not a broad brush maybe sound like it. It's

808
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 2: not all encompassing guys like the mel Kiper's of the world,

809
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 2: the Todd mcshay's of the world, you know, kind of

810
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 2: the names that have been out there for a long time,

811
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 2: believe it or not.

812
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: I got no problem with those guys. You know why

813
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with it.

814
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 2: I see Todd McShay all the time at games when

815
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 2: I'm Adam, I know that guy's watching college football every week.

816
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 2: Mel Kiper, I hear him talk about college football every

817
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 2: week during the season.

818
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,760
Speaker 1: Those guys are watching the game. They are watching, They're.

819
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 2: Observing, hopefully, but at very least they're watching the college product.

820
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 2: If you are watching college football every week, reasonable minds

821
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 2: can disagree at that point.

822
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: The ones I take exception with.

823
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 2: Like I said the other day, are the guys who

824
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 2: are releasing Mott Draft nine point zero and then they'll

825
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 2: tell you, you know, I really think Miami could win

826
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 2: the Big East this year. It's like, I don't have

827
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 2: time for all that. Friend, Miami hadn't been in the

828
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 2: Big East in a decade.

829
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: They haven't I met. What did you mean? I met?

830
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 2: Go sit down, Go sit by the garbage. That's where

831
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 2: those people need to be. Having said that, I thought

832
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 2: Bruce Feldman with The Athletic did a really good job

833
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 2: this past couple of days ago of accumulating what I

834
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 2: think is some of the most valuable content in our industry,

835
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 2: and that is going to coaches and getting them willing

836
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 2: to go on the record at least with their opinion

837
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 2: if you'll keep their identity anonymous. Now you've got to

838
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 2: have some editorial integrity there to make sure, and go

839
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 2: find guys who are going to be straight with you

840
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 2: and who don't have an axe to grind, maybe against

841
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 2: a particular player. So you're going to get true, raw,

842
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 2: authentic football minded feedback and analysis. And there's no real

843
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 2: slant to it. It's just it is what it is.

844
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 2: It is as good a feedback as you're going to get.

845
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 2: So Bruce Feldman goes and he asked two or three

846
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 2: quarterback coaches from around college football about anywhere from Justin

847
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 2: Fields to Trey Lance to Zach Wilson to Trevor Lawrence,

848
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 2: mac Jones, and then there's some DeVante Smith here too,

849
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 2: But I wanted to just let's sprinkle in around this

850
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:26,919
Speaker 2: entire segment what was said.

851
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: I don't want to give away the whole article. It's

852
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:29,240
Speaker 1: over on the Athletic.

853
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 2: It's behind a paywall, so this is premium content, so

854
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 2: I'm not reading it verbatim or anything, but just some

855
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 2: takeaways I had. Trevor Lawrence is going to go number

856
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 2: one overall in the draft of the Jaguars. And Trevor

857
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 2: Lawrence was also a guy that these quarterbacks coaches looked

858
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,439
Speaker 2: and said would be their number one pick.

859
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: He's the best guy overall if you're grading.

860
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 2: But they talked about his arm, really good arm, a

861
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 2: plus arm as they would call it in the scouting community,

862
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 2: but maybe not an elite arm. My eyeballs disagree, but

863
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 2: I'm not a quarterback evaluator either.

864
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:00,760
Speaker 1: Smart and safe.

865
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 2: Those were the two ways that his offense was described

866
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 2: at Clemson. So obviously the follow up there is what

867
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 2: kind of offense is he going to be put in

868
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 2: when he goes, presumably to Jacksonville. And their whole context

869
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 2: was is he a plug and play day one guy

870
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 2: and there's another guy in this draft that a lot

871
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:19,879
Speaker 2: of them there was a consensus on as a matter

872
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 2: of fact, is a better day One guy than Trevor Lawrence.

873
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: But I found it really interesting to listen to that.

874
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 2: For example, the feedback about arm Talon and whatnot Zach

875
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 2: Wilson from Brigham Young, different story. I thought the feedback

876
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 2: there was, you know, pretty predictable. It's how do you

877
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 2: measure for competition level? Because you looked at that guy

878
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 2: sometimes and this is what I picked up on. This

879
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 2: would be my biggest worry, not a NOTT, but a

880
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 2: worry on Zach Wilson. If you watched a lot of

881
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 2: Brigham Young, I can't say, BYU there's why why b

882
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 2: why you Harris County High School? If you watched any

883
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 2: Brigham Young this year, you saw a lot of plays

884
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 2: made outside the pocket, which is good. They count touchdowns

885
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 2: count no matter where you've score from on the field

886
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 2: in college and in the NFL for the record.

887
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: As far as I know.

888
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,760
Speaker 2: But what a lot of the quarterback guys kept saying

889
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 2: is you got to play from a type pocket. In

890
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 2: the pro game, a lot of the money is made

891
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 2: in a tight pocket. And when you watched him at

892
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 2: bring him young. What a lot of stuff happening in

893
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 2: a tight pocket. Now the competition level allows you to

894
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 2: get away with that there. How does it translate here?

895
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 2: And the thinking is, and this is where I get

896
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 2: a little bit out of my comfort zone. I guess

897
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,399
Speaker 2: the thinking is, it's the Jets maybe for him, even

898
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:29,760
Speaker 2: I know how bad that sounds.

899
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 1: Even my mouth gets dry when I talk about that.

900
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 2: And the prospect of a quarterback being dropped in to

901
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 2: New York and having virtually nothing around him is That's

902
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 2: essentially what the feedback was from the quarterbacks coaches there.

903
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: What about Justin Fields?

904
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 2: Now, this has been fun for me because you know,

905
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 2: I got all the confidence in the world in Justin Fields.

906
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 2: And it's because I've watched him for quite a while.

907
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 2: I grew up covering him at the high school level.

908
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 2: So a lot of us that are from the Georgia

909
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,720
Speaker 2: high school scene, I mean, we've known about Justin Fields

910
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 2: for a long time.

911
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 1: Never a whiff.

912
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 2: Of the character concerns or anything like that never has

913
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 2: been And I got news for you. I got plenty

914
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 2: of folks down there who would be more than willing

915
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 2: to tell me about it behind the scenes, even if

916
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 2: they would never go public with it, never heard about it,

917
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 2: So I've laughed at that. These guys, for the record,

918
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 2: laughed at all that the criticism came out this week

919
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 2: that he deals with epilepsy. It's not an area that

920
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 2: I'm an expert in, but it's not something that, according.

921
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: To experts, they expect to affect his game.

922
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 2: The tangible football related knocks or the potential question marks

923
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 2: around justin fields, as far as I can tell, have

924
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 2: had nothing to do with athleticism, arm talent, or anything

925
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 2: like that. It's all about how good he sees the

926
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,919
Speaker 2: field and how ready he is as a progression read

927
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 2: based quarterback from day one in the league. I would

928
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 2: argue you asked that about ninety percent of quarterbacks when

929
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 2: they come out, So that's not anything unique to me.

930
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: I look at the upside.

931
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 2: You know, the next NFL team I run will be

932
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 2: the first team. But I look at the upside and

933
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 2: he's got a whole lot of it. But I'll tell

934
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 2: you what surprised me. If you were to put me

935
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 2: in a cryo chamber this time last year and then

936
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 2: you just unfreeze me around this time now. If you

937
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 2: told me that I was going to be reading the

938
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 2: following intel from actual NFL quarterback types, I would have

939
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 2: been the mind blown emoji. My skull would come open

940
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 2: and there would.

941
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: Go to mind. This is what was said about Mac Jones.

942
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,760
Speaker 2: The most NFL Day one ready quarterback in the draft

943
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 2: processes better than anyone gets into the right look, best accuracy,

944
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 2: best anticipation. They're all one hundreds on the one to

945
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 2: one hundred scale, more NFL ready.

946
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: Than any of them. And that includes Trevor Lawrence, and

947
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: that includes Justin Fields. And I'm not arguing with this.

948
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 2: I'm just saying I continue to be amazed that it's

949
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 2: out of all the guys in the world, it's Matt Jones,

950
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 2: who we didn't even know was going to start at

951
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 2: Alabama last year, that we're saying all this about.

952
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 1: And by we, I don't mean me. I'm not interjecting

953
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:58,399
Speaker 1: my opinion so much here.

954
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 2: It's one of those rare segments where I defer to

955
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 2: the experts. Here, the long term physical tools, that's what

956
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 2: people ask about with Mac Jones.

957
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: You look at him and you say he's.

958
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 2: NFL ready because he's very cerebral from the neck up

959
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 2: and he's got.

960
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: Good enough physical attributes.

961
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 2: Now that shirtless picture that floated around of him probably

962
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 2: did him no favors. But that's one of the things

963
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 2: that those quarterback guys in Feldman's piece talked about. You

964
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 2: can find this on the athletic by the way, they

965
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 2: talked about how different the perception of him would be

966
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 2: if that shirtless picture where he looks forty two years old,

967
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 2: like he's got a sensible mortgage in three kids, if

968
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 2: that hat and surfaced, would there be as many questions

969
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 2: about him athletically because no one expects him to run.

970
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 2: No one expects that, so no one would ever even

971
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 2: talk about his athleticism. If you want my let me

972
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 2: give you my scouting profile from Mac Jones. I never

973
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 2: saw Mac Jones slide in a game where I wasn't

974
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 2: terrified about his health when he tried to get up,

975
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 2: because I think he's terrible at sliding. So purchase a

976
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 2: slipping slide once you hand out the signing bonus. However,

977
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 2: many millions of dollars it is go find with those

978
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 2: little crocodile mile things because you've got to have him

979
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 2: practic sliding. But other than that, the whole athleticism thing

980
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 2: is overblown. You know, like if you ever walk around

981
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 2: a locker room. This is you know, it's kind of

982
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a little bit it's gonna border on inappropriate,

983
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 2: but it's.

984
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: Not going to be inappropriate. So Jesse littroll with it.

985
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 2: If you get to be in locker rooms, I think

986
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 2: you guys would be fascinated, but I'm not going to

987
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 2: show you, so you're gonna have to imagine it with me.

988
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 2: You would be fascinated at the different body types and

989
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 2: some of the best players that you see. I'm not

990
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 2: talking about quarterbacks anymore. Necessarily, some of the most physically

991
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 2: impressive quarterbacks you watch on game day, let me just

992
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 2: put it this way, they don't exactly possess bodybuilder physique. Conversely,

993
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 2: some of the best physiques that you will ever see,

994
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 2: like the body fat percentage of this desk I'm sitting

995
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 2: at right now, cannot put it together to save their

996
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 2: lives when they get on the field. So a lot

997
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 2: of people in the scouting world obviously have learned different ways.

998
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: To measure you.

999
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 2: Then well, let's see what is the body fat percentage here,

1000
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 2: what's the muscle mass comp position?

1001
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 1: What does he look like with his shirt off? Like

1002
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: all that.

1003
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, people talk about it. But man, what are you

1004
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 2: gonna ask me to do? You're gonna ask me to

1005
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,439
Speaker 2: throw a football. You're gonna ask me to use these

1006
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 2: and pointing to my eyes, I'm got to use this

1007
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 2: my brain. Sometimes I got to use these my feet.

1008
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 1: But none of these require me to have overly defined

1009
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: oblique muscles. But yet it's a big.

1010
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 2: Talking point because I accidentally took my shirt off while

1011
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 2: I was smoking a cigar one day when I was

1012
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 2: a four string quarterback when we beat Tennessee. So that's

1013
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 2: that's the point of the mock community draft process that

1014
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 2: we've gotten into. But the DeVante Smith thing this week

1015
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 2: is what's great. Uh it's great because I tweeted out

1016
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 2: the picture of my entire draft strategy the other day,

1017
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 2: which consists of a piece of paper that was folded

1018
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 2: up and when you unfolded, it just says Davante Smith

1019
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 2: no matter what a lah Kevin Costner in draft day.

1020
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 1: But it was only kind of a joke because I

1021
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 1: really mean it.

1022
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:54,919
Speaker 2: Davante Smith weighed in at one sixty six. Reportedly, here's

1023
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 2: how ridiculous this stuff gets. Davante Smith. If he were

1024
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 2: to have weighed one seven, it'll be a non issue

1025
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 2: the gap in four pounds, because one seventy just looks

1026
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 2: so much better than one sixty six. That's probably enough

1027
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 2: to make a difference in some of these minds. But

1028
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 2: let me just assure you this, whether he weighs one

1029
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 2: sixty six or one seventy six, he's going to weigh

1030
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 2: a lot more when he's carrying your franchise. And that's

1031
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 2: what a guy like DeVante Smith is capable of. So

1032
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 2: if you don't draft him, I will put Peyton State

1033
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 2: in the NFL, probably have to rechange our name, but

1034
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 2: then we will draft him. I just don't want to

1035
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 2: be the general manager that passes up on a guy

1036
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 2: because he weighed one sixty six instead of one to

1037
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 2: seventy one and then he just tortues me for the

1038
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 2: next decade.

1039
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: I don't want to be that guy.

1040
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 2: So I'm not going to be that guy, and I

1041
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 2: can assure you I'm not because I'm not going to

1042
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,760
Speaker 2: the NFL anytime soon. That is a wrap for us tonight,

1043
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 2: really good show. We're looking forward to a big weekend

1044
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 2: of spring games.

1045
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 1: We're gonna have a loaded or jam packed as we

1046
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:47,919
Speaker 1: like to say around here. Show Sunday night.

1047
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 2: Remember follow me on Instagram at late kick Josh. So

1048
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 2: many good things in the oven, so many good things.

1049
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 2: You can tell they're on the tip of my tongue

1050
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 2: because every time I say good things, you see me

1051
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 2: look up and to the right. If I look to

1052
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 2: the left, it's not a big But if I look

1053
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 2: up into the right. Body language experts will tell you

1054
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,240
Speaker 2: that means I want to say something, but I just can't.

1055
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 2: And I do but I just can't. But don't worry

1056
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 2: because we've still got several months until the season. And

1057
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 2: over those months, one of the other reasons I tell

1058
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 2: you don't tune out is because we'll just be We'll

1059
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 2: just be dropping nuggets. Every couple of weeks. Something new

1060
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 2: will come along. So don't tune out. That's all I'm

1061
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 2: telling you.

1062
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 1: Don't tune out, and like the video by the way

1063
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Speaker 1: before you leave, or subscribe to the podcast and leave

1064
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Speaker 1: a five star reviews. That's all we got for Director Emeritus,

1065
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Speaker 1: Colin Jessing, the entire crew in Connecticut.

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Speaker 2: I'm Josh Payton. Have yourselves a great weekend, and God

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Speaker 2: bless