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Speaker 1: That was a good I just it just the lord.

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Speaker 1: back to the beginning, right, But you were going so

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Speaker 1: I surprised myself too in my earlier days. Everything Okay,

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Speaker 1: MC hurricane, I was, I started, I started, I was

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Speaker 1: the TV show. And I asked that because our podcast

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00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:04,160
Speaker 1: is informative, we wanted to be as informative as possible,

425
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: and your situation is so unique for a guest that

426
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 1: we've had. That's why I asked that, Like, you know,

427
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 1: because it's kind of American Idol is like you said,

428
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 1: like when you when you do American Idol, you're signing

429
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 1: to a certain label that's connected to American Idol. It's

430
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 1: not like, oh, I want American Idol and now I'm

431
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,679
Speaker 1: about to go do you know this this whole campaign

432
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 1: and go meet all these labels, right, run it up?

433
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 1: Ain't running it up? No, it's giving like we put

434
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: you on, You're gonna stay right on. But like, these

435
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 1: are all things that I wanted to I didn't I

436
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 1: didn't know what shopping, wasn't going to other labels, and

437
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,679
Speaker 1: I didn't know any of that. I was like, I

438
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 1: want to do. What can I do to be Raven

439
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 1: Hannah Montana? Like what can I do? This is what

440
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:52,640
Speaker 1: this is what you do. This is what we're doing.

441
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: You know. So at the time, like it looked like

442
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: all of these things we're gonna work out, But there's

443
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:02,400
Speaker 1: also a formula, and if you're a black girl who

444
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 1: can sing, you're not going to fit into that formula.

445
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: Like you're already throwing throwing off the balance, you know,

446
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 1: because I don't look like those girls that I said

447
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 1: I wanted to be, Like, I definitely don't sing like them.

448
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 1: I don't even the music doesn't even fit me that

449
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 1: I'm being told to do. So what now what? And

450
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: I didn't do the TV show? So now the main

451
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,239
Speaker 1: marketing strategy is not I didn't do that. Was there

452
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: a reason you didn't do the TV show? Um? I

453
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 1: think part of it, from what I mean, I don't.

454
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 1: I don't really know because I was much younger. But

455
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 1: part of it, I feel like, was how long I

456
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 1: was going to be under you know, that umbrella to

457
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 1: keep being longer and longer. Yeah, um, and then a

458
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: little record company and then also to like I knew

459
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 1: that I wanted to like have a different type of longevity.

460
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 1: And so I do feel like my mom was smart

461
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: and like to thinking what we could get from the experience,

462
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: but not diving so deep in that you're really really

463
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: stuck as that character, you know what I'm saying, Like

464
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 1: stuck because it can happen. Yeah, and especially if you

465
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: do it really really well. Yeah, you were that person

466
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 1: you everyone foreverever in the transition. Is that much more

467
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 1: difficult or growing up for that matter, Yeah, is that

468
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 1: much more? Yeah? And I think I mean God was

469
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: definitely protecting me, but at the time I was like

470
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,199
Speaker 1: so disappointed because it just wasn't I was like, this

471
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:34,439
Speaker 1: is what I was saying. I was going to do

472
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 1: the whole time and didn't pan out the way you

473
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: when you say slow down as you put it in

474
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: that moment, What does that feel like to you? And

475
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 1: what are you doing too? I guess feel the space

476
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: or feel the time avoid that you're feeling. Man. Well,

477
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: I was also trying to graduate early, so now I'm

478
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 1: like fifteen, are you in school or homeschool? Homeschool? Trying

479
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: to graduate early because I was like, I need to

480
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 1: move to leg now. I need to move there because

481
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: that's where the opportunities are. That's why I'm not like

482
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 1: this big star, I'm here, I need to go. So

483
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: I was trying to go like finished school and get

484
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: out of there. And um, I also was like, I

485
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: guess I was really in my religious mindset because I

486
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,120
Speaker 1: was like, where am I sinning? Because this isn't happening

487
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 1: the way it's supposed to happen. So what man? What

488
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 1: didn't I do? Right? And so I was like like

489
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,199
Speaker 1: my friends would call me like the Nune because I like,

490
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sit this one out and let y'all have

491
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: you're not feeling no, no, no, no, no, not that

492
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 1: I'm not feeling that. I just don't understand that because

493
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: I wasn't raised that way. So there is no there

494
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: is no um there is there is there's nothing telling

495
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: me because I did this, this is not happening right.

496
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: That's the best way that I can put it, you

497
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,239
Speaker 1: know what I mean. There's no like commandments of I

498
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: didn't follow that, so this didn't happen for me. I

499
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: never think, well, I don't. I don't have that. In

500
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 1: that church space that we were in, it was very

501
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: much everything was connected to you know what I'm saying.

502
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 1: The good and bad things were definitely centered around how

503
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: are you living? You know, it could be anything anything,

504
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like you said some bad

505
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: words last week. That's why the Lord is you know,

506
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: that's why this, this, this opportunity didn't come through it.

507
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: You gotta slow that down, you know what I'm saying.

508
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: I gotta trying to tell you something. You doing something.

509
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: It's all it was. It's all it was always that

510
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: you're not doing something right. Therefore, that's why this is

511
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: not happening. Boy, very much done. But no, at the

512
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: time like I really like was diving into that, like

513
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: what exa. I was like, how do I live perfect?

514
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: Because that must be why my prayers aren't answering. So

515
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 1: I'd be the nun like the goody like I wasn't

516
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: doing it. I was not doing nothing, but I just

517
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: wanted to graduate and I wanted these things to work out.

518
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: And then I got dropped and then I was like, oh,

519
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: now I'm rebellious because something someone wide and I'm curious.

520
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,479
Speaker 1: I'm sixteen, I haven't done anything. All the girls are

521
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: doing everything. I'm done, girl, I'm outside. You know, if

522
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: this was really me talking to God, I'd be like, okay,

523
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: what's that? He like? Are you being real? I'm like,

524
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: I didn't do anything. I was sitting here and now

525
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 1: and it's not okay, So I'm done. And that's really

526
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: how I was like. And I mean I wasn't out

527
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: here while because first of all, I was home school.

528
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: It's not like I was about to go like I

529
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 1: went to like some parties with the girls who would

530
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: dance with me, like my dancers, and I'd be like

531
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: sneaking out. Yeah, Like I was so not like really

532
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,479
Speaker 1: with it, you know what I'm saying, um, but then

533
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: I did graduate. She's the greatest. This is great, literally,

534
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: but you want to know something so funny? Can I

535
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: can I tell a funny story? Okay? So this this

536
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: was the first time I ever snuck out right, and

537
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: my mom and dad went to go somewhere my sister

538
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: for volleyball. So me and my brother were at the house.

539
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: My brother was like, I'm sticking out and I was

540
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: like what. He was like, I'm sneaking out. I was

541
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: like I was older than him, Like I was I

542
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: was sixteen. Yeah, I was sixteen and he was fifteen.

543
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: He was like, I'm out. I was like where. I

544
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: was like, where are you going? He was like, I

545
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: don't know, it's gonna be outside. I was like, well

546
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: what if? I mean like, I was just like, wow,

547
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: we're rebellious. Okay, okay. I was like, so me too.

548
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: I was asking my I was asking my dancer. I

549
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: was like, where the party it. She was like, okay, yeah,

550
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: you can come to me this party like it was

551
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: like deep Nashville. Now, I don't really go outside like that.

552
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: I was with my mom. I was very much like

553
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: trying to like be booked. I was on set. The

554
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: only times I went to Ashville. Was for the studio sessions, auditions, performances,

555
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: and now I'm gonna go to the party. Right how far?

556
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: It's like yeah, And here's the thing too, Like we

557
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: had a long driveway, so I was driving with no

558
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 1: lights on. I was like, I was sweating. I was like,

559
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: I was it's forest because my neighbors are snitches because

560
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: they was gonna tell. I was like, I was scared.

561
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: I was driving, could not see. I have my glass zone.

562
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: It's so much forestry and deers. I was like, oh

563
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: my god, Bamby, please like I can't today. Okay. So

564
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: I sneak out right and my mom sends like this text.

565
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: She's like, thank you guys so much for like not

566
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: having any attitude. And we were like stay home, we

567
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: love y'all. And I was I was like, no, no problem, girl.

568
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: I was at this party, right. I was at this party.

569
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: And so then this guy that I had liked at

570
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: the time, who also went to my church. I was

571
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: such a square. He went to my church, but he

572
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: was like the rebellious type. I was like, oh he's

573
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: dead and at least sting okay, shurts that it was

574
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: so hot, okay, So he was saying he was gonna

575
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 1: come there or whatever, and I was like, okay. Period.

576
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: So when I walked in or whatever, I remember it

577
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: was like a cloud of smoke. This is my first

578
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: time like even being around anything. I was like, oh

579
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: my god. I was like, this is the haze. This

580
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: is the this is the spirit, this is the dark

581
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: spirit haze. This is that. I was like. I was

582
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: like I should leave, and then I was like I

583
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: must stay. So I went in there or whatever. So

584
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: then I was like dancing with my friend and I

585
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: couldn't find my phone. This was after my mom had

586
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: texted me. My phone had like a bedazzled case, like

587
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: somebody was going to see my phone. It was like

588
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: pink bedazzled Claire's sparkles bright and so I'm like, okay,

589
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: where's my phone. Now I'm really freaking out because I

590
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: didn't snuck out. I just responded to I said, you're

591
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: welcome in the group chat. I'm scared. So then I

592
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: was like I was asking my dancer. I was like,

593
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: my phone, my phone, my phone, I can't find it.

594
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: So literally all these girls, I felt like such sisterhood,

595
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: very much cheated sisters. Literally all of us came together.

596
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: We did like this and they had their phones with

597
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: the lights and we went like all through the dance

598
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: floor and like we didn't see it. So I was

599
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: like freaking out. I was about to have a breakdown.

600
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: And then the DJ was like, yo, we gotta pay

601
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: phone at the d J booth. Pay phone at the

602
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: DJ booth. I was like, oh, thank you Lord. I

603
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: went and got my phone. I was like, okay, I

604
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 1: really need to leave. That was the Lord's saving me.

605
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: I should just leave. And then I was like I

606
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: want to stay. And then I stayed. And then the

607
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: guy that I like came and I was like he

608
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: did church. I'm not saying his freaking name. You know

609
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: who you are. That was nice to your little system,

610
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:43,879
Speaker 1: but she was bad. I was just trying to hang

611
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: with shoot up. She was that. But anyway, so yeah,

612
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: he came to the party or whatever, and then like

613
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, food up mooving it

614
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 1: out of but anyway, Yeah, so then I went home

615
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 1: and I didn't get caught or anything. But that was

616
00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: like my first time sneaking out fully sixteen is great.

617
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: This is so yeah, that was my first time speaking out.

618
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: You did get caught. I did not get caught. I mean,

619
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: I'm telling now, but girl, don't drive me mom anyway.

620
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 1: But yeah, so I got dropped in stuff and like

621
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: I was just I didn't know what was happening. You know.

622
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: It's also so weird, Like I was watching a lot

623
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: of interviews. I would watch like interviews like Beyonce being

624
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: interviewed like Kobe, Like I would watch anything like just

625
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: to see what these people that I looked up to

626
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 1: what they were talking about, and like what they would

627
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: say about the journey. And I'd be like, I always

628
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 1: feel like they were not saying enough about the journey,

629
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 1: like where's the bad parts? You know, like where are

630
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: the where are the bad Like how long did it take?

631
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 1: What did you do? Did you get dropped right? Like

632
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: all of these things I was looking for, like to

633
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: to make it feel normal that it wasn't happening good

634
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: for me. So that's why I try to be like

635
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: more transparent about everything that happened, just because I was

636
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 1: like is this okay? Like does this mean I'm still

637
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: when or what what does this mean? So yeah, that's

638
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 1: kind of like what I was doing to feel the space. Yeah,

639
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,919
Speaker 1: and you lived still with your parents at the time. Yeah, yeah,

640
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 1: I was sixteen. And then when I was seventeen, I

641
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 1: graduated early and I moved to l A and I

642
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: was staying with like kind of like godparents type, and

643
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 1: then I got this opportunity to be on Broadway. So

644
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: then I moved to New York by myself. And then

645
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I'm definitely not. I have a

646
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:28,760
Speaker 1: roommates in the same year in the same year book

647
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: a Broadway show. That's so. Then I was in New

648
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: York and all my family came to New York for Christmas.

649
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: But for the most part, I was like there by

650
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 1: myself seventeen and then I turned eighteen. I had my

651
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: eighteenth birthday in New York. That's where were you staying

652
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: in New York? I was staying they had like they

653
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: had put me up in this like oh it's house.

654
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: It was not giving, but you know, um respectfully be

655
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: giving overworks and underpaid. I wasn't living for that. Yes,

656
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: I was like, isn't it labor of something? I don't

657
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 1: know one to three, four, five, six, seven. It's almost

658
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 1: like eight to nine shows a week, depending on what

659
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 1: you want, okay. And then I was like, Okay, who's

660
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: doing here? In makeup, They're like you. I was like,

661
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 1: who's doing design you? Well, who's putting my MinC on you?

662
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, Literally I was over there. I

663
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: was like, so it's the same scripts, same everything every

664
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: day and we're doing this mostle time to day. Hey,

665
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 1: yay guy, how long were you on bay? I did

666
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: that like almost a year. Yeah, you were training for

667
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 1: but that's a that's a deep training, you know what

668
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,720
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And it was at the time it feels

669
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: a way, but that's real training. It was. I was like,

670
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, y'all. Y'all deserve way more than this because

671
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: this is a lot. Like it was the hardest job

672
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,760
Speaker 1: I think I've ever done, like being on top of everything.

673
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: I remember the first couple of shows was like if

674
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: I didn't know where I was supposed to be placed,

675
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: like the other girls that played my friends and stuff,

676
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: they would look at me and I'm like, this is

677
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 1: a live show. Oh my god. It was too much.

678
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: I was so I was so green, And then by

679
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 1: the end of it, I was like, anyway, I got

680
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: right there. I'd be like happily because I've done it

681
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: so much. I go like a robot. You know that. Yeah,

682
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: and then like at the beginning, I would always be

683
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: nervous because I had to kiss this guy because we

684
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: were in love, and I'd be like and then by

685
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: the end, I was like, all right, anyway, let's get

686
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 1: this over come on, Tom, give me literally, Like I mean,

687
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: it was just crazy, like how how different my mindset

688
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: was on it at the end versus at the beginning.

689
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 1: But I don't know I would I think I would

690
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: do it again, but it would have to be like

691
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: definitely bossed up. And then also like it's not it

692
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: would be like a very much passionate project. It's like

693
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: when you do Broadway, you know it is a labor up.

694
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I mean, and because you really

695
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: did to show up in your tools, your tool and

696
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: but it's like you never if you can have no no, no,

697
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: if you can if you have to my life to

698
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: pick the project, then that's uh, that's the plus. If

699
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,280
Speaker 1: you can pick the project in the moment, that's the plus.

700
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: But but outside, but the work, I respected that how

701
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 1: many we do okay, okay, how much right like um okay,

702
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: But it was like it was the the best experience

703
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: for me because of you know, of course the people

704
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: that I was on the road with, they were like

705
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 1: you know, from TV shows and from movies, and they

706
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: were they were the real deal. I was this singer guy,

707
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, who was the only singer

708
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: guy on the stage in this you know, kind of

709
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,439
Speaker 1: prominent role. And they're looking at me like what you got?

710
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: What you got out? I think it's so interesting because

711
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: when I was doing it, I was like the girl

712
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: from Disney. So they were like, what are you doing?

713
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,760
Speaker 1: That's like, I really don't know. Actually, doesn't you're doing something?

714
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:16,439
Speaker 1: You got to go to the trenches. I mean, it's

715
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: it's it's all preparation for all of these things that

716
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: we're involved in. And it goes back to you're so

717
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 1: trying to wards performance. You're prepared for those moments. It

718
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: showed everyone is not prepared for when that light come

719
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: on and when it's time to do your job. You understand, Okay,

720
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 1: this is my spot, these are my these are my

721
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: these are my notes, this is how I'm supposed to finish.

722
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna handle this like a professional, you know

723
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: what I mean. You've got so many artists out here

724
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,439
Speaker 1: now and I won't even say now we've always had.

725
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: We've always had some bullshit at times, but I think

726
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 1: it's it's it's more. It's it's it's normalized now that

727
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 1: people aren't ready ready. And I think also because we

728
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: are in this fast culture, so then sometimes people do

729
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 1: pop off fast because of social media and trends, and

730
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: then it's like, yeah, what do you do when you

731
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: were just singing and doing something on your computer? You know? Well,

732
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's like like if if

733
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 1: we're saying, okay, this this record is jumping off, TikTok

734
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: is going crazy, this major label comes in and say, hey,

735
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: you're popping, We're gonna give you a deal, let's go,

736
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: and then you just throw them to the wolves. And

737
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: that's the part that the development costs money, but I

738
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 1: want to spend that, but that's the part that's missing.

739
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 1: So it's like that's why we have I think more

740
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: of it. You know, We've always had the bullshit for sure,

741
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: but I think we have more of it because there

742
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 1: are more avenues for people to get cracking and people

743
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: will just throw money at it as opposed to throwing

744
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: some type of tutelage and education and I'm just standing

745
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: at it it's a fun word to need it. We

746
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 1: need it. And so um, let's get out of New York. Okay,

747
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 1: back to back to BA. You're back to l with

748
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: no roommate. I was blowing it. That was not a

749
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 1: big Okay, that was not a big But I had

750
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: all these you know, I had savings and stuff because

751
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: I've been working since I was literally twelve. Yeah period. Um,

752
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: so yes, I was back in l A auditioning and

753
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 1: this was pre COVID when you would go into rooms

754
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 1: and like meet casting people and stuff. It just seems

755
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: so so long ago when we would go into rooms.

756
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: But I'll be driving like all over the place, Santa Monica, downtown,

757
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 1: North Hollywood, auditioning, auditioning, auditioning, auditioning, auditioning, auditioning, auditioning. Oh

758
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 1: d Like, at least I'm grateful that, like I did

759
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: have opportunities an audition. Some people just want that, you know,

760
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 1: just the fact that they even are getting a shot

761
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: to take It's like, oh my gosh, wow. But I

762
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: think for me, like my pride was chacked because I

763
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 1: had already expected it to go. I already thought I

764
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: was at this level and go up from there. But

765
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: it was like it doesn't matter what you did when

766
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: you go into these rooms. They do not care your

767
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: brand new. So I felt like I was constantly like

768
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: just proving myself to people, like proving it, proving and

769
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: proving it. And at the same time with music, I'm

770
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: independent now, so like I don't really know what I

771
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 1: want to sing recording to now when you come back

772
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: to l as. Yeah, but like very much independent, like

773
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 1: whatever I want to spend my money on to do,

774
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: you know, because when you're independent, it's on you, and

775
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: then the people that want to rock with you, you you know,

776
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,240
Speaker 1: maybe get it on the back end or like just believe,

777
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 1: you know. And I had plenty of all of those

778
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: different things. So like I would make music and then

779
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 1: I was all to go into this music school. But

780
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: that was just see I could feel my my family

781
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: that I was in school, you know, because they were

782
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 1: like when is she doing out there? And my parents

783
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: would be like, she's in school, but um, I was

784
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,839
Speaker 1: doing that too. That was that didn't lead too much,

785
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 1: and like it was so crazy because every time it

786
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 1: would get to the point where it looked like I

787
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:25,280
Speaker 1: would need to pivot and like do something else, something

788
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: would happen literally every time I would get something or

789
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: like a song would pop off, or like I would

790
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,240
Speaker 1: get a sponsorship like a promo, like a content piece

791
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 1: to do something on social media. And my numbers were

792
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 1: not even giving like that. So it was just so

793
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 1: they would come like something would always keep me going.

794
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: I mean that it worked out, if that's what it was.

795
00:44:56,080 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: If I was thinking if I was none none of that,

796
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: I got thirty none steps. I got a question. Yes,

797
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: some totally different. You mentioned it the school. Uh huh.

798
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: What were your expectations of music school did you have?

799
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 1: Did you walk into because you said something you were like,

800
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 1: it didn't really pan out. So did you have expectations

801
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: when you when you signed up for music school like

802
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 1: this is going to help me through get X yres it. No,

803
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 1: I did not expect that. I I only wanted to

804
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: go to the school to network and to possibly learn.

805
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 1: I was thinking I was going to learn how to produce.

806
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, I can learn that there, Lauren.

807
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 1: I was studying like music business, like entertainment law, like

808
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: I was like, I want to learn what all of

809
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 1: this stuff means. Those were the things that I really

810
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: knew I could get out of it. But what I

811
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: thought was gonna pop me off was a job like

812
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: acting role. So that's where I was like, whenever I

813
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: get this role, I'm out of here. I don't even

814
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 1: care how long I was studying any of this. I'm

815
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: gone because this is what is going to open the

816
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: door for me, you know, because I think sometimes people

817
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: it's a it's a weird space with um with the

818
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 1: music business and music education, and I think a lot

819
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:27,399
Speaker 1: of people don't look at it as really a real

820
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 1: resource into making it because so many people have done

821
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: it without it. So it's I and I sit in

822
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 1: a funny space because I didn't you, I didn't utilize

823
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: I didn't go to school for music either. But I

824
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 1: do understand the value of it, and I think sometimes

825
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: it's it's not really it's not really brought up at

826
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: all when people talk about, Okay, this person went to

827
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: Berkeley School of Music or this person you know, they

828
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: went to the engineering Academy and these type of things.

829
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 1: And I personally think it should be promoted a little

830
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 1: more because I do think we need more people that

831
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: you know, have some form of education in music business

832
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:12,879
Speaker 1: and in music period. I think that as we look

833
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: at a curriculum for music business. I don't think that

834
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 1: that's been curated no properly. And I think that there

835
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: are so many things, so many nuances and actual music

836
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: business of us doing the music business that's not in

837
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 1: a music business school, that at some point there's we're

838
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: going to have to help curate that program so that

839
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: when people come out of music school music business school,

840
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: they're not starting over from the very beginning, because that's

841
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 1: normally what happens. Now if you have the gift, like

842
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: if you go to Berkeley or one of those schools

843
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 1: and you come out in here, or you know, you

844
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: technically savvy, you know how to you know, you engineer,

845
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 1: you know all these cool things like there's a there's

846
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 1: a there's a good chance that you can be a

847
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 1: dope session engineer, or catch a tour and go on

848
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: the road, or or catch a cool engineering job for

849
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: up and coming rapper or something like that. You know

850
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like, but when it's just music business.

851
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 1: The things that I've seen from music business school is

852
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: that they it's a book thing for the more go go,

853
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 1: you're awesome and all things. That's what you've told them. Okay,

854
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: you told us without telling them if you flexed on them. Okay,

855
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 1: since you were this high, you've been doing it at

856
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 1: a high level. We're gonna get into your mind, your

857
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: R and B mind, and be mind. Your top five?

858
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: Why does everything sound like a bad beer commercial? This

859
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: is the mop. Your top five singers and singers and

860
00:48:56,560 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: singers and singings and singers, top five and be sunk.

861
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: Can give us a little bit the next My tough

862
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 1: five aready your top five R and B singers male

863
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: or female? Okay, well, I already hit. I already thought

864
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 1: about this. They're all female, um in no particular order,

865
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: but five of them. Brandy, Jasmine selevant, you're going to heavy,

866
00:49:53,320 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 1: go ahead? And her Yeah, Barrier Alia Wow, Oh that's

867
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: the toughness. Who dangerous sounds like they check ball man?

868
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: Whose monsters? Who want to go no one, no One?

869
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 1: I feel like they all have different elements. Like Jasmine

870
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: is like this raspy, soul, full type thing, and like

871
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: Aaliyah is like this vibe you can't help but be

872
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: like you. Her songs are magnetic, you know, and they

873
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 1: stick in your head. Beyonce is the execution. It's going

874
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 1: to be executed to perfection, you know, her is like

875
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: artistry like all these instruments you know who that Brandy Yea,

876
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: the vocal behind you already knew. I feel like as

877
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 1: I listened to your music and your EP, like your

878
00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: body of work, you cover all of that ground, You

879
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: cover all of your inspirations in your music, because it

880
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 1: was like you, you really were morphing into different moments,

881
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, which is tough to do,

882
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: to be able to you know, cater your voice to

883
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,720
Speaker 1: the different sonics, into the different tempos, and like I didn't,

884
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: I didn't lose anything from you from a tempo record

885
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:30,919
Speaker 1: to a slow record. Did you write all of them?

886
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: I don't feel like you should stay here and now

887
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 1: get better here or you should like everything was like okay,

888
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 1: because and then that comes with the execution when you

889
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: talk about Beyoncet like you didn't. You didn't, you didn't

890
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 1: lay off on any of those moments, on any of

891
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: those tempos, like we gotta nail that. Let's do that again,

892
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: because if it's not the run, then it's got to

893
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 1: be the swag. And if it's not the swag, then

894
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 1: it's got to be the cadence. And if it's not

895
00:51:56,120 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 1: like you were on all of that. Congratulations you're top five, Welcome, Welcome,

896
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 1: R and B songs, Okay, um and no order, say

897
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:17,280
Speaker 1: my name, Disney's Child, thinking about you, Frank Ocean, Wow,

898
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 1: when you touch me? Brandy, don't you do this today? Okay?

899
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 1: Some spear fingers, you know that one? That's one of

900
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 1: my favorite records of all time. Okay, um focused by

901
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: her with the harps, It doesn't mean And then I

902
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 1: said my own song, just my luck, Come on, shout

903
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 1: out yourself. Why shouldn't your song we want of your

904
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 1: top five? I mean I realized that the theme here

905
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 1: is do whatever you play? And damn right, how you

906
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 1: went to that? Brandy? When you touch me? Oh my

907
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: gosh's listen? Brand be saying one time at this R

908
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 1: and B with an R and B night that I

909
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:09,760
Speaker 1: used to host every Wednesday, and Brandy singing, came in there, singing,

910
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 1: and I saw dudes huddled up, Oh my gods, huddled

911
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 1: up together, shoulder to shoulder in frenzy. It's like I

912
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:26,280
Speaker 1: wasn't one of those guys. It was. I just wasn't

913
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 1: women in this like an artists together. It was guys

914
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:41,439
Speaker 1: huddled together, strong, solid dudes that were had, there were

915
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 1: they were, they were broken, they were emotional, Brandy had

916
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: done that. Her vocal is serious. It is, it is.

917
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:55,439
Speaker 1: It's the backgrounds as well, like it's the detail. It's

918
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 1: not she don't play, she don't. And it's like, what's

919
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 1: crazy is you remember the song and you web were

920
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 1: the ad libs? Like, that's a whole another verse is

921
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 1: the ad litle You've been trying to sing all the

922
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: parts running out of breath. It's a whole thing. I

923
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: want to sing your ad libs in the backgrounds at

924
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 1: the same time, at the same time, well along with

925
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:17,720
Speaker 1: this lead line that Rodney's playing, What is the lead line?

926
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 1: I want to do all of that. Okay, here we go.

927
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: You're making an R and B voltron Okay, we're building.

928
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 1: We need the vocal performance, style, styling, and passion for

929
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: the artist for this voltron Who are you getting the

930
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: vocal from? Put your phone down? Put your phone down? Alright, alright,

931
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:51,760
Speaker 1: Google is not your friend. I was gonna say the vocal,

932
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 1: I would say, Jasmine, I want Jasmine's vocal on this

933
00:54:55,600 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 1: voltron Um. Vote you go on with that, Yes, Jasmine

934
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: your vocal. I'm gonna say, I mean, I could say Brandy,

935
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 1: of course, but but I love Jasmine. I love it.

936
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 1: This is like, this is this is one of my

937
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 1: vul Drahn's. This is one of them. Okay, this one

938
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: you're just building here, you're gonna build another one that

939
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: it already did. The Brandy one is like it's on

940
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 1: its own, leading the pack. And then this is the

941
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 1: second in command performance style on stage. Beyonce m would

942
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: pick that as well. Yeah, did you go to them

943
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 1: to run two two? Get on my nerves. I have

944
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 1: a thing where I only want to experience these things

945
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 1: at the top tier, Like I would rather I want

946
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: to go to the concert. When she's like, hey, co going,

947
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: I'm like hey, she's like, come to the concert. I'm like, okay, yeah,

948
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,800
Speaker 1: I'm on the way. Where's it that? Oh that's a

949
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 1: little she didn't know what the show was that you're

950
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 1: not really proud of to be huh, like like the

951
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 1: rest of us, I'm saying, like, I just I just

952
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 1: wanted to be experienced that way as I was in

953
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 1: the audience experience in Beyonce. I want to be like

954
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 1: I want to come and say don't We'll talk about

955
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:20,720
Speaker 1: your membership after this. Um, Okay, styling of the artists.

956
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 1: What you want put the trip? Who who put who

957
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 1: put that ship on? Put that on? She did? She?

958
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:31,399
Speaker 1: I mean, the trends are still very much the trends. Absolutely,

959
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 1: she definitely put that on. Absolutely, And I also feel

960
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 1: like she was sexy. But it wasn't giving like, Okay,

961
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 1: new mystery, huh, it's really we're all out here when aperio, Okay.

962
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:46,879
Speaker 1: It was more like how does she? What is that?

963
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 1: What's under there? Like what is this? I'm captivated by

964
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:54,240
Speaker 1: the unknown? You know. I just feel like that's something

965
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 1: that is not as popular anymore, like you know what

966
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:00,320
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Especially like as women, you feel like, Okay,

967
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:01,880
Speaker 1: this is what everybody doing, this is what this is

968
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 1: what I gotta do what we do? Like, well they

969
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 1: care if I don't, you know. Well, so I liked that.

970
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:09,360
Speaker 1: For me, it was like, oh wow, she gets to

971
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 1: like not have to do that. You just gotta decide

972
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 1: what you want to be on and and not you

973
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 1: and stand on the right. Of course you do. But

974
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 1: then you know, as a girl, as a young girl

975
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 1: coming up, all you see is the certain things that

976
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 1: are like it right there right. I just feel like

977
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 1: she for me was like a breath of fresh air.

978
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 1: I could wear that too and feel like that's something

979
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 1: I would wear. I would want to do that, not

980
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: feel like, Okay, I have to do this to keep up.

981
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 1: You know, passion of the artists who you don't get

982
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 1: the heart from. Then, because Beyonce also has a passion

983
00:57:53,440 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 1: as well, I'm going to say, Michael Jackson, mm hmm,

984
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: oh you want to rehearse eight to ten hours a day.

985
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 1: I don't want to play with it. Yeah, the passion

986
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 1: was passionate. Yeah, you don't want to play with it. Yeah,

987
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: I'm playing with it. Yeah, he didn't play car being polished.

988
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 1: That's man, that's yeah, it's different. I love it different.

989
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 1: That is different. That's a great vultura. That's a great vultura.

990
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 1: And then I also had to say dancing. But you

991
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 1: guys didn't ask me that well, performance style. Oh okay,

992
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 1: that is that is fact. Yeah, come over here, thank you.

993
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 1: And I'm sad. None ain't nothing. I'm no, ain't nothing, right,

994
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 1: don't make me regret? Oh yeah, in fact? Okay, oh yeah, okay, sorry,

995
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 1: we got listen, we got we got we got something

996
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 1: else for you. Lord what and don't go to your

997
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 1: damn phone for it. Neither. You can't get this out

998
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: your phone. I ain't singing no names. I have to guess.

999
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 1: I ain't saying no names there. Who's doing you gotta

1000
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 1: looking to the clouds when he's saying might have been me?

1001
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 1: Might have been there? I don't know what it was

1002
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 1: like singing no names like you saying no names? You

1003
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 1: say names? What is this? What happened? I might you

1004
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 1: need a breakdown. You listen his song first, though, you

1005
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 1: see you see what you see what he's doing? Huh?

1006
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 1: You might catch you by the four seasons playing the

1007
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 1: piano the lobby. You what I ain't saying no name?

1008
00:59:52,720 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 1: Definitely master your second floor? Second, no names, get to

1009
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 1: it extra garlic like my steak oscar style. What is

1010
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 1: going on? So we have a portion of the show.

1011
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 1: Segment of the show. It's called I ain't saying no names.

1012
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 1: Will you tell us a story? Funny or fucked up?

1013
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 1: Are funny? Oh? I was over here trying to guess

1014
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 1: the song. I was like, no names, names And the

1015
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:36,240
Speaker 1: only rule to this game. You can't say no names.

1016
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 1: We don't do no snitching here. You can't say nobody

1017
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 1: name tell your story though, Um, come on, listen. Let

1018
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 1: me think, because me telling this story, I mean, I'm

1019
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:56,439
Speaker 1: in the stories. So I'm like, what do I want

1020
01:00:56,480 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 1: to say on the interwebs to win? So I like it?

1021
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 1: I like it. I like, give me. You can't say

1022
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 1: it was me Mini and Mickey do that? Oh my gosh.

1023
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 1: And I told a good story already and didn't say

1024
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 1: no name. Let me think. M I'm scared. I'm also

1025
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 1: a little naive. People you got them, you got you

1026
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 1: got the stories, and now you got the stories. M

1027
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 1: h yeah that's the one when it hits you. Yeah,

1028
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 1: oh mm hm oh yeah. Should I thank you management?

1029
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 1: I love that management. I love that Yeah. Yeah, oh no,

1030
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 1: I have to keep that in mind. Say no names. Okay,

1031
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 1: so before you saw this is Coco Jones, I ain't

1032
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 1: saying no names. Whoa um, okay, I'm going to talk

1033
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 1: about a first date that I here went on. So

1034
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:33,439
Speaker 1: basically this okay, fine checked. So this was a recommendation

1035
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 1: from a friend. My friend was like, I think you

1036
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 1: guys would really hit it off because the impression that

1037
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 1: I get from this guy is that you guys were

1038
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 1: really match. You know what I'm saying. You guys seen

1039
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 1: birds of a feather flock together type and I was like, okay,

1040
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 1: my friend had never recommended me do any first dates

1041
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:55,439
Speaker 1: and nothing like that, so I was like, okay, cool,

1042
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna see what's talking about. So the first kind

1043
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 1: of date was like all like kind of a group

1044
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 1: hangout type thing, like to get just get the vibe.

1045
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 1: And then like you know how, girls were like, are

1046
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 1: you gonna go the bathroom? So basically means like you

1047
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 1: want to go talk to it in the bathroom, and

1048
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 1: so it's like, yes, I do. Great, So we're go

1049
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 1: in the bathroom. And after I had met him, like

1050
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 1: I thought, he was like mad fine, like da da

1051
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 1: da da da tall. You know, in l A it

1052
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 1: really be giving like you're either five eight or year

1053
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 1: six spot. Like it's rare for me because I'm tall.

1054
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 1: I'm always like year five ten. Okay, all right, I'm

1055
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 1: five ten anyway, so I was like he's actually tall,

1056
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 1: Like oh my god, he's cute, like funny da da

1057
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 1: da da da, Like I was a girl, I think

1058
01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:43,200
Speaker 1: you ate that. She was like okay, par so cool.

1059
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 1: So after the group haying, he was like, yeah, let's

1060
01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 1: hang out one on one and I was like yeah,

1061
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 1: for sure, so he like he was like, you want

1062
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 1: me to pick you up? Da da da da das

1063
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 1: and the carbos like whatever. I was like, you know,

1064
01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 1: like you can pick me up whatever. Yeah, Okay's friends

1065
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 1: charming and like, you know, I had these impressions like

1066
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 1: he's like cool, like suave type, you know, like the

1067
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 1: like with a little side of like corny, which I

1068
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:16,160
Speaker 1: like that, like I don't like, like yo what I'm like, Okay,

1069
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 1: I can't read you. He's so scary, like I like

1070
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 1: a little fun because I'm like a little corny too,

1071
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 1: you know. So we go on this date or whatever,

1072
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:25,439
Speaker 1: and um when he gets there to pick me up,

1073
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 1: I get in the car and there's a balloon ball Yes,

1074
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 1: there's a balloon, a happy birthday balloon. And it's not

1075
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 1: my birthday, and I don't think it's his, Like why

1076
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 1: would you want to hang out with me on your birthday?

1077
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 1: I just met you? This is crazy. So I'm like, oh,

1078
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 1: I'm like what is it? What's that? And he's like okay.

1079
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 1: So he's like I wanted to do something a little different,

1080
01:04:53,040 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 1: you know, like and it was like hard to get

1081
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 1: a reservation. So I told him it was your birthday.

1082
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:00,160
Speaker 1: So we got to like pretend it's your birthday, like

1083
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 1: is that okay? And I was like okay, Like I was,

1084
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:09,840
Speaker 1: I was thinking this is different. I'm never gonna forget this.

1085
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 1: But then I was like, do you buy a balloon

1086
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 1: for every girl? Like it's a lot of balloons. I mean,

1087
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 1: I don't know how you get down, but like, is

1088
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 1: this what you're doing? Every time? I was like is

1089
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 1: he doing this? Because like I'm in the industry and

1090
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 1: I like, like the raw raw, Like what's happening. I

1091
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 1: was like okay, But in my mind, I'm like, but

1092
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 1: I think he's being like nice and trying to be different. Okay. Cool. So,

1093
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 1: like we drive and we go to the wrong destination first,

1094
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:38,440
Speaker 1: the old restaurant, and it wasn't even there anymore, so

1095
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 1: that we had to go to the other one. And

1096
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 1: so it's kind of like a longer drive, and I'm like,

1097
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 1: let's play some of our favorite songs so that we

1098
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 1: could like not have to like sit here and talk

1099
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 1: all the time, Like we got a long drive. So

1100
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:51,080
Speaker 1: he plays some of his music and I did not

1101
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:54,040
Speaker 1: like any of it. Like that was also very concerning.

1102
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 1: I was like, what are these songs? Like I've never

1103
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 1: heard them and I don't like them at all. So

1104
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 1: I was like okay, and the balloons like bouncing around

1105
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 1: the background, I'm like oh. I was like oh, I

1106
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 1: was like okay, next, so so literally like he gets

1107
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 1: he was like, I just have one more song, like

1108
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 1: I need to play it, like this is my favorite cover,

1109
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, a favorite cover, Like okay,

1110
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 1: so no names, it's this song, this cover and I

1111
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 1: can't even sing the song because the song would give

1112
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 1: it away. Well, no, it's a cover, okay. So I'm

1113
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 1: just gonna say a hypothetical song and pretend to be

1114
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 1: him because I need to play this out. We're driving

1115
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 1: or whatever and he's singing his heart out and I

1116
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 1: just met him, so let's pretend it's uh revo uh.

1117
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 1: And so he's like zlight and it's not on tune

1118
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:50,959
Speaker 1: like he's he's not giving it's like zat I don't

1119
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 1: wagon like he's singing, and I'm like all the cool

1120
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:58,560
Speaker 1: points went out the window, Like I said, I like cool,

1121
01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:03,360
Speaker 1: I like cool, what the what? The song outside not

1122
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 1: not the main dish, like save that on the side

1123
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 1: so I can dabble in. It's not not even family

1124
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 1: style honestly like kids, a kid's portion of corn, kids portion,

1125
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 1: like you can fit it in the small plate that

1126
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 1: the couple one. And I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait,

1127
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 1: this is not who I met the other day, Like,

1128
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 1: what's going on here? The balloon? I'm like, oh, the balloon.

1129
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 1: I'm holding the balloon and I don't like the song

1130
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:29,880
Speaker 1: and he's singing his heart out and then he like

1131
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 1: takes my hand and he's like, z this is I'm

1132
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:39,360
Speaker 1: like so I'm like, I'm telling my hand is the

1133
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:42,479
Speaker 1: mic and I'm like holding the balloon and I'm like okay, wait,

1134
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 1: wait wait, I'm just like what happened? Where did the

1135
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:47,120
Speaker 1: cool points go? So then we pulled up to the restaurant.

1136
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 1: I didn't even get to play my songs, you know,

1137
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 1: I didn't get to play anything. And he's still singing

1138
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 1: and the ballet is like are you So he's looking

1139
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 1: in the window and he's like dah and I'm like okay,

1140
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 1: and the guys that are you coming out like I

1141
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:02,640
Speaker 1: don't know and he's like we just gotta finish this

1142
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 1: real quick. And he's like like literally, I don't know

1143
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 1: what was going on. I didn't know what was going on.

1144
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 1: So I'm like I'm getting nervous because I'm like, oh

1145
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:15,560
Speaker 1: my gosh, like what did I sign up for? What? What? Where?

1146
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 1: Who is this man? So anyway, the song finally ends

1147
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 1: like and I was like trying to like get get

1148
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:24,600
Speaker 1: that over with. So I was like, I was like,

1149
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 1: come on, let's go. I was like the valets like

1150
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:31,240
Speaker 1: waiting on us, like come on, and he's like okay, yeah.

1151
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 1: I was like come on please. So then we get

1152
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:36,040
Speaker 1: out or whatever and he's like, well, is that too much?

1153
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 1: And I was like no, no, no, no, it's fine.

1154
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:42,599
Speaker 1: But I'm like so I'm like carrying this balloon. I'm

1155
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:47,080
Speaker 1: like walking past people like ah, you're Darren. So this

1156
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:51,640
Speaker 1: date was on Halloween, so just think about that. This

1157
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:55,160
Speaker 1: was on Halloween. So I'm carrying this balloon and people

1158
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 1: are like Halloween Birthday, Like oh my gosh. They're like

1159
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 1: they're like, get Jerry Jerry. Jerry Jay comes out. He's

1160
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:04,799
Speaker 1: like I do not see a lot of Halloween birthdays,

1161
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:07,639
Speaker 1: but man, oh man, aren't we special hall And I'm

1162
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 1: like yes, yes, So it's so nice. And then the

1163
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 1: guys like it's I tell her all the time, like

1164
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 1: it's her birthday, like you know, she gotta live it up.

1165
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 1: And I'm like, like, this is so not what I

1166
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 1: thought was gonna happen. Not what I thought was gonna happen.

1167
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 1: So literally like that's where we're like the balloon is

1168
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:26,720
Speaker 1: settled because it was messing with the heat lamps and

1169
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:28,360
Speaker 1: so I had to like I was like sit your

1170
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:31,519
Speaker 1: as the balloon was like settled there, and like I'm

1171
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:34,720
Speaker 1: talking to him and everything, like I would say, it

1172
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 1: would give like oh yeah, like your wifey. I was like,

1173
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:45,120
Speaker 1: oh first, it was like it was like your cap

1174
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 1: because there's no way he did. I was like, you

1175
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 1: don't even know me. I'd be like, oh, yeah, I've

1176
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:52,679
Speaker 1: tried that that that food before. Like shrimp is really good.

1177
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:55,559
Speaker 1: He'd be like, shrimp, he's good. You're so wifey, Like yes,

1178
01:09:55,920 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 1: I'd be like a protein. I mean, I don't know.

1179
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:05,840
Speaker 1: I don't think that qualifies me. I haven't asked me

1180
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:08,879
Speaker 1: like any core questions about myself, but shrimp he is good.

1181
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:12,000
Speaker 1: I guess like yeah. So like we're talking or whatever

1182
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 1: and the progresses or whatever, and I know I'm like

1183
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:18,479
Speaker 1: not really feeling it if I'm just ready to go,

1184
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:21,000
Speaker 1: Like you know when you really like somebody. You're like, oh,

1185
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 1: you know, there's a little lounge waking. It's kind of

1186
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 1: cute like whatever. But then I was like, yeah, I'm

1187
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:31,840
Speaker 1: so so tired working, working, you know, man working, So

1188
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:33,840
Speaker 1: I just need to go. I'm gonna rest, like I

1189
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 1: need to rest. And he's like, yeah, no problem. He

1190
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 1: drops me off whatever whatever, and then um, he like

1191
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 1: walks me to the door, and I was like literally

1192
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 1: I was looking at him and I feel like I

1193
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:49,320
Speaker 1: literally gave him telepathy. I was like, you are going

1194
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 1: to get embarrassed. I would really appreciate it if you

1195
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:54,479
Speaker 1: just settled the score and leave. And then I felt

1196
01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:56,800
Speaker 1: like he was like understood, thank you so much for

1197
01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 1: telling me I will head out, so anyway, he didn't.

1198
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 1: It gives me whatever, but I get into my house

1199
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 1: or whatever. And then he texted me and he was

1200
01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 1: like I just cannot get over how beautiful you looked.

1201
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 1: He was like, thank you so much for spending time

1202
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 1: with me. Sleep well, and um text me tomorrow. And

1203
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 1: then he was like good night me and more I

1204
01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:30,800
Speaker 1: was like damn. I was like, man, I said good night,

1205
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 1: and yeah, that was an interesting story. I don't know what.

1206
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:43,000
Speaker 1: I don't know what that was. I really don't excited. Why,

1207
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 1: like what see and that's what that's what's not gonna

1208
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 1: work for me. It's like, yes, for sure, yes this

1209
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 1: is all very much young because even the verbage that

1210
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 1: shrimp is nice your wife, like that's a very young

1211
01:11:56,880 --> 01:11:58,960
Speaker 1: I don't like they throw that out like that, you

1212
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:03,040
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying to It was just like I

1213
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:05,400
Speaker 1: felt like, I don't like to feel I feel I

1214
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 1: want to feel valued and like, oh you you are

1215
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 1: treating me like a prize. You know, yes, I want

1216
01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:13,439
Speaker 1: to feel that, but I don't want to feel like

1217
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 1: you're you're you're looking at me up on this pedestal

1218
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 1: like wow, hope one day I can get up there,

1219
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 1: because then I'm like that means I'm looking down at you.

1220
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 1: Why am I on a date with you and I'm

1221
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 1: looking down at you? You know, I don't want to

1222
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:28,080
Speaker 1: feel like that anyway. If that was a funny ish story,

1223
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:32,639
Speaker 1: kind of cringe, let me use that. But I didn't

1224
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 1: count them out that. I didn't count the out. You

1225
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:40,920
Speaker 1: didn't count you gave him another day? Yeah, yeah, I

1226
01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:44,120
Speaker 1: actually did, like, oh, ship, but don't be over here

1227
01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:48,040
Speaker 1: buying balloons for the first day. That's not hot. It word.

1228
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 1: It did not work. No, no no, no, no, no, no

1229
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 1: one here, it did not work. I I liked him,

1230
01:12:55,280 --> 01:13:00,040
Speaker 1: but it wasn't giving that, so you liked him. I

1231
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:03,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know that happy birthday balloon,

1232
01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 1: you little corny fellas. Okay, it's but corn is memorable.

1233
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:30,160
Speaker 1: Corn is memorable, rememberable doesn't Corn doesn't break down anyway.

1234
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:31,800
Speaker 1: I thought he was a good guy. That's why I

1235
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 1: gave him more of a chance because I was thinking

1236
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:35,880
Speaker 1: about it and I was like, Okay, he definitely went

1237
01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:38,919
Speaker 1: all the way corn city with it. But the opposite

1238
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 1: of that is the too cool for school like I

1239
01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:44,679
Speaker 1: do this, like I say everything. Everything that I'm saying

1240
01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:47,720
Speaker 1: sounds rehearsed, Like I'm not nervous at all. You don't

1241
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:50,559
Speaker 1: give me no type of butterflies, like whatever, you know.

1242
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:53,680
Speaker 1: I don't want that. So I'm going to give the

1243
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:56,760
Speaker 1: guy a chance. Yeah, yeah, you know what I like,

1244
01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:59,680
Speaker 1: Did you get a chance? Yeah? Yeah, Because you just

1245
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:01,920
Speaker 1: never know. You never know, you never know, you never know,

1246
01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:09,519
Speaker 1: never know. I've seen some odd couples wherever like, Okay,

1247
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 1: you don't look like it's her birthday. I know. I

1248
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:15,600
Speaker 1: was like man, what y'all really got me? Carrying it

1249
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 1: balloon around? Literally, always remember it. I will never forget it.

1250
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 1: I'll never forget it. I'll never forget it. And I

1251
01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:27,839
Speaker 1: still like, I still think the guy has great qualities

1252
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:31,360
Speaker 1: and all of those things. It's just giving. That's not

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01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:34,559
Speaker 1: how it was gonna pan out. But if a guy

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Speaker 1: was corny on the first date, I'm definitely gonna have

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Speaker 1: another day with him because I'm like, you're nervous and

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Speaker 1: you're trying. The effort is there. We'll take that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: come on, now the level of corn watch this and

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Speaker 1: be like, you know, when I get my change. This

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Speaker 1: is a little side right here, just enough to compliment

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Speaker 1: the entree, just enough to compliment. Don't over don't be

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Speaker 1: overbearing with the core. Like half a cob, half a

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Speaker 1: cop at best, a whole car right there with it,

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Speaker 1: right there with it. Just a spoonful of sugar makes

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Speaker 1: medicine go down. You know, you get it. Um Coco Jones,

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Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. Um we we we think you're

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Speaker 1: really dope. Thank you. We appreciate the light. Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: appreciate your energy. Um pure in r G. Don't do

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Speaker 1: that because they could be a whole group right now. Great,

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Speaker 1: bringback Greg. That's what I did. I'm never gonna live.

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Speaker 1: You're still high up on the cool with us. Still

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Speaker 1: you got it. I see so much um, so much

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Speaker 1: dope shit in your future than you and I see it, um.

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Speaker 1: I see it in the very simple space of you

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Speaker 1: just being you. Thank you. You know what. I absolutely

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Speaker 1: that you will never you will never have to compromise

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Speaker 1: who you are and people are going to love it.

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Speaker 1: They're already gravitating to it. And it's just gonna keep

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01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:16,040
Speaker 1: taking you higher and higher and higher. So from R

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Speaker 1: and B Money, Um, you have our support. You have

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Speaker 1: anything you need from us that goes without saying thank you.

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Speaker 1: I need a hit song with a duet. Let's get

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Speaker 1: into that sounds simple, Yes, that's easy, that doesn't sound

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Speaker 1: all Yeah, okay, great, that's done. So listen you just

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Speaker 1: heard it first. There's gonna be some music. Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: just poke some R and B money Koko Jones. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I done for Jones. You're saying to get a little chance,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about it. We're gonna talk about it.

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Speaker 1: Take Valentine and this has been the R and B

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Speaker 1: Money Podcast featuring the Don't Coach Coach, Thank You Guys,

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