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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome to the Drive. I am Dale Lollie. He

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Speaker 2: is the Matt Williamson and we're back live and in

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Speaker 2: person in the studio here and Senior Bowl practices are

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Speaker 2: all wrapped up. I made it back from Mobile.

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Speaker 3: It's not only wasn't a great trip back. I mean there's

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Speaker 3: just there's no easy way to get back and forth

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Speaker 3: from there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know it's a small

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Speaker 3: little airport. I remember too, and it was always flooded

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Speaker 3: with NFL and media people that day and you said

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Speaker 3: there's a storm too or something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there was storms last night. And you know, you

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Speaker 3: I did a stress test a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: Ago, and they were talking about different ways to get

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I bet that airport was good for it airport,

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Speaker 2: because that does it every time. So we we landed

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Speaker 2: So they got us there a couple of minutes early,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we pull up to the gate and then we

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Speaker 2: And then everybody had because it's a small plane coming

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Speaker 2: bag was the last bag that they brought up literally

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Speaker 2: that the yeah, and the guy comes out, he gains

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Speaker 2: I guess this was yours. I'm like it there right,

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Speaker 3: That's another in the first bag.

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Speaker 2: And so I got to my I got to my

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Speaker 2: flight to Pittsburgh from Atlanta just as they were calling

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Speaker 2: my group to go up and board. Now mind you

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Speaker 3: Right and landed early, and we landed earlier.

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Speaker 2: And I still barely made it to the gate in

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Speaker 3: It's good for the stress task. Yeah, heart rate was

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Speaker 2: I bet, I bet a lot of fast walking legs

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Speaker 3: I got my steps in, so yeah, yeah, I was.

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Speaker 2: I liked you know what I saw down there, A

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Speaker 2: a whole lot about the Darius Alexander's of the world

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Speaker 2: and guys guys of that nature. Really just really good

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Speaker 2: defensive line group. And it's kind of changed my thinking

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Speaker 2: a little bit on on where you go in this draft.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's the reason that this is laid

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Speaker 3: They have more information. Obviously, this is a huge piece

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Speaker 3: I learned a ton this week, whether I go or not.

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Speaker 3: But I mean, you know, just get at least a

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Speaker 3: He might fit Steelers, he might not. You know, you know,

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Speaker 3: where's where's you know, what's his future look like in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you see body types, you get the sea things

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Speaker 2: It's really the last It's the last time you get

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Speaker 3: It's well attended too, huh oh, good lord. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: think every year it's it's too well attended. Probably, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Actually, And you know, even if you just want to

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Speaker 3: You can do that. Yeah, And I know the game

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Speaker 3: sold out to and I mean anyone's welcome to the practices.

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Speaker 2: see more of them in the game tomorrow. And you

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Speaker 2: my opinion have have changed on him based on what

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Speaker 2: he looked like in practices this week. Well, first of all,

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Speaker 3: So one thing aside, I'll get to that last. My

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Speaker 3: especially quarterbacks, get better throughout the week. First two days

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Speaker 3: He's an exceptional athlete that most people think are going

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Speaker 3: but he's below nine inches and that's there has not

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Speaker 3: Like a full grown man like this grabs his thad, right.

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Speaker 2: You know, if you can wear the gloves, wear the gloves, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's a negative. I mean, it worries me. Now.

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Speaker 3: It also wouldn't shock me if he comes in right

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Speaker 3: watching that change they stretch, and it's not the most

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Speaker 2: Well, you know when you when you said you know,

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Speaker 3: I don't know when that started.

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Speaker 3: That doesn't disqualify them, but I didn't like seeing that.

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Speaker 3: Him struggling on Tuesday and Wednesday. Pretty addictable, Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: Saturday game, right, He's gonna go to the Combine, he's

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Speaker 3: gonna interview, Well, he's gonna test awesome. He's gonna test

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Speaker 2: But if he is that kind of athlete, if he

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Speaker 2: runs in four threes, yeah, I mean he expected he

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Speaker 2: looks like it on tape.

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Speaker 2: And he's well built, like he's bigger than Lamar Oh yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's pretty thick, yeah, strong and plays out he's actually

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Speaker 2: he's built like Justin Fields, but he would be a

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, he's gonna do weird things I think at

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Speaker 2: Yeah I am as well. You know, maybe the week

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Speaker 2: taps the brakes on him sneaking into the end of

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Speaker 2: the first round or something. But one thing I am

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Speaker 2: hearing now is that some teams have Jack and Dart

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Speaker 3: Sort of understand. I'm not sure that I'm there yet

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Speaker 2: And you know, obviously we didn't get to see Will

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Speaker 3: You know, But no, I mean a lot more people

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Speaker 3: That stuff's all available in there. That's cool, so cool.

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Speaker 2: I am Dale Lollie. You're listening to the Drive here

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back.

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Speaker 2: I am Dale Lolli. He is the Matt Williamson except

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Speaker 2: no imitations. And Matt Dan Graziano today on ESPN predicted

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Speaker 2: some twenty twenty five NFL free agent contracts and extensions

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Speaker 3: What it might cost for Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so I thought we'd take all these extensions, might

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Speaker 3: When one franchise tags stuff, that's.

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Speaker 2: That's like far away, two weeks before before free agency,

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Speaker 3: Agency opens, which is March twelfth. So okay, we're getting there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's usually right round combine time.

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Speaker 3: That Yeah, that's when they met. Okay, so.

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Speaker 2: We'll go through the other ones before we get to Wilson.

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Speaker 2: He has Sam Darnold. The expectation is a three year,

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Speaker 3: Okay, what I had been hearing was three years one

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Speaker 2: Inflation goes up, and that was two years ago, I think.

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Speaker 2: so three years, one hundred and twenty million, forty million

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, the CAP's going up super fast. Let's

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Speaker 2: And if you didn't catch Matt and nice conversation yesterday

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Speaker 3: Would be in on Higgins.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because they want more of a speed type receiver,

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Speaker 3: Little history a little bit. The last couple of years.

436
00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:25,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, But Graziano's prediction on what he will get on

437
00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:29,240
Speaker 2: the open market is four years, one hundred and fourteen

438
00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,600
Speaker 2: million dollars seventy million dollars guaranteed. That would make him

439
00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,400
Speaker 2: seventh among wide receivers and annual value.

440
00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,440
Speaker 3: I was actually guessing to be higher than that. I

441
00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:42,160
Speaker 3: thought I'd be like forty years thirty per It's not crazy, Yeah,

442
00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,520
Speaker 3: it's not crazy. Yeah. What's that workout to about twe.

443
00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,440
Speaker 2: Eighty and then as long as you played on the

444
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,960
Speaker 2: twenty eight million a year, Yeah, which sounds like a ton,

445
00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,280
Speaker 2: but when you're actually a true free agent and there's

446
00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,879
Speaker 2: teams competing, I was thinking to be thirty ish, which.

447
00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,560
Speaker 3: Is on Yeah.

448
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:06,600
Speaker 2: Trey Smith with Kansas City, he's thinking five years, one

449
00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,760
Speaker 2: hundred and five million, sixty five million guarantee, which would

450
00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,920
Speaker 2: be tied for first among guards and annual value.

451
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,800
Speaker 3: I get it. I mean in the last couple offseasons,

452
00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,600
Speaker 3: particulars past one guards and centers got paid. Just why

453
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 3: he won't be a chief I don't think he'll be achieved, right, Yeah,

454
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:27,520
Speaker 3: and you know he's a good player, but he's semi replaceable.

455
00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,879
Speaker 3: I mean the first or second round guard. You're not

456
00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:31,879
Speaker 3: going to lose too much probably. I mean he's a

457
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,720
Speaker 3: really good player, don't get me wrong. But a team

458
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,320
Speaker 3: with a lot of money, I mean, if you're the

459
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,920
Speaker 3: Raiders or the Patriots, I mean, could be worth it.

460
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:45,040
Speaker 2: Bears, Yeah, Zach Bond with the Eagles. Another one that's

461
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl here. He's saying four years, sixty

462
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,240
Speaker 2: million dollars, thirty five million dollars guaranteed, which would be

463
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 2: fourth among off ball linebackers in annual value.

464
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,920
Speaker 3: That's another one I thought would be a little higher.

465
00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 3: I mean, like, I think he's as desirable was Tremaine

466
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,440
Speaker 3: Edmonds was at he's twenty eight. He's a little older.

467
00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 3: One year production, yeah, you know, but it's a really

468
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 3: really good year. Wonder if the Eagles bring him back maybe,

469
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,040
Speaker 3: I wonder what the franchise tag.

470
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 2: If it's fifteen million dollars a year, you're probably I

471
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:17,679
Speaker 2: mean the first year is not going to be anywhere

472
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,119
Speaker 2: close to that, so he can maybe make that work.

473
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 3: Extension candidates, Yeah, there's some good ones out there.

474
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:27,920
Speaker 2: Rock Purty four years, one hundred and ninety six million dollars,

475
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 2: one hundred and twelve of that guaranteed, that would be

476
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,720
Speaker 2: tenth among quarterbacks, and it.

477
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:38,200
Speaker 3: Was worth more Donald or Purty Donald's. I mean it's

478
00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 3: a floor ceiling conversation. Yeah, yeah, I mean Party's floor

479
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 3: is definitely hire Donald's ceilings higher. I bet they pay

480
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,200
Speaker 3: him probably, yeah, I mean I think they're gonna I

481
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 3: mean they're probably gonna lose Debo and Trent Williams could retire,

482
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:57,120
Speaker 3: and they had a couple of defections coming via free agency.

483
00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 3: But I bet they pay him.

484
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase, that's a bit five years, one hundred and

485
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 2: eighty million dollars, seventy million of that fully guaranteed, which

486
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 2: would be the highest.

487
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:11,159
Speaker 3: For he's going to be number fiver, Yeah, just because

488
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 3: Jefferson was earlier. So he's going to say give me

489
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 3: Jefferson plus five percent or one dollar or whatever.

490
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't get it. Yeah, it makes me think

491
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 2: Higans probably won't come back. I mean, yeah, you can't

492
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 2: swing all that. Yeah, you can't have three hundred million

493
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 2: dollars tied up in your wide receivers.

494
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 3: I mean that'd be like sixty five million dollar a

495
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 3: year and two guys, Yeah, plus your your quarterback's making

496
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:35,400
Speaker 3: it of course.

497
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:35,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

498
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh Micah Parsons five years, one hundred and eighty

499
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 2: million dollars one hundred and twenty five million guaranteed, which

500
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 2: would set we set the edge rusher market.

501
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 3: So would he be the I don't know if you

502
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 3: know this, but I assume he'll be the highest paid

503
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 3: defensive player ever. Yeah at that number. Yeah, that's a

504
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 3: lot of guaranteed. He's worth it. I mean he's a

505
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 3: little younger than Watt and Garrett and those guys, just

506
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 3: twenty five. Yeah, he's maybe not even his prime. He

507
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 3: was awesome when he came back from injury on a

508
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 3: bad team.

509
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 2: Well, the thing is is, you know, on his contract

510
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 2: he's got one year reminting at twenty four million.

511
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 3: So there's a jumping off point right there. I mean

512
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 3: even you're already said, I'm not taking a less than that, no, right,

513
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,239
Speaker 3: especially if they're going to extend him. Now get that

514
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:23,160
Speaker 3: number down for this year so they could spend elsewhere. Yeah,

515
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 3: that's up. I mean, he's a great, great player. Derek Stingley.

516
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,919
Speaker 2: He's got one year at five point three million, plus

517
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 2: a fifty year option forthcoming. Okay, but that's cornerback fifty

518
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 2: year option. They're saying he's saying four years, one hundred

519
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,159
Speaker 2: and four million with eighty million guaranteed, which would be

520
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 2: the highest average pay for a cornerback.

521
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 3: It's a high percentage of guaranteed, I mean almost eighty

522
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 3: percent of the contract guaranteed. Corners can go up and down. Yeah,

523
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 3: I mean, it doesn't shock me that he would reset

524
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 3: the mark. He's twenty three too, Yeah, yeah, and he's

525
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 3: having an awesome year, you know, super high pick. No,

526
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 3: I think so, I just didn't know what Certain's contract

527
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 3: is the only one I think, Yeah, you know different,

528
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,120
Speaker 3: But much of what time when he.

529
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 2: Got reoppted, Kyle Hamilton is the last guy he's got

530
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 2: on his list here as a potential reup because you

531
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 2: know it's it's he's due for that.

532
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,159
Speaker 3: He's still twenty three years old. He still has a

533
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 3: fifth year option woman too.

534
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 2: He gets one year two point nine million, plus they

535
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 2: get the twenty twenty six fifty year option on him.

536
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 3: Now, this is what we're talking right, right, what we

537
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 3: were talking about.

538
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 2: They can't have Linderbaum and Hamilton playing on that fifty

539
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 2: year option at the same time.

540
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 3: They just can't, right right, because the rules are goofy

541
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 3: on centers and safeties.

542
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 2: Right, forty five million dollars tied up in those two players.

543
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, center, and they're really good. Yeah, right, have to

544
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 3: pick up their so I bet they extend him before

545
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 3: the fifth He might have.

546
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,679
Speaker 2: To do with both of them, right, but you'd like

547
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,919
Speaker 2: to certainly get one of them out of the way now.

548
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 3: Which makes me wonder if the left tackle will be back. Yeah,

549
00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 3: you know which They could move on from it and it

550
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,679
Speaker 3: won't destroy them. But I can't see Hamilton or Linderbaum

551
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 3: not being back, yeah, you know, on a long term deal.

552
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 3: So the money with a thinking on him.

553
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 2: I'm saying four years, eighty eight million with fifty million guaranteed,

554
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,400
Speaker 2: which would reset the safety market at twenty.

555
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 3: Two dollars a year. What's makea make a year? Roughly?

556
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 2: I think it was eighteen, that's so I knew it

557
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 2: was under twenty, but I don't know how much. And

558
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 2: everybody's complaining about that. It's not your money.

559
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's a funny conversation too.

560
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:28,919
Speaker 2: You're worth whatever somebody will pay you.

561
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, why do you care? Yeah, just cheer for the dude.

562
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 3: Right now, Hamilton should probably be the highest paid safety,

563
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 3: I mean at his age, coming up at this point, Sure,

564
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:39,679
Speaker 3: he's very, very valuable.

565
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's extremely valuable to that defense and we can

566
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:46,199
Speaker 2: do which brings us then to moving back up the

567
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:47,919
Speaker 2: list here Russell Wilson, I.

568
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,159
Speaker 3: Don't know what to think here, what that number is

569
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 3: going to be.

570
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 2: Well, here's what he has coming back here.

571
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:54,439
Speaker 3: Two years.

572
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 2: That adds up fifty million dollars worth thirty five million guarantee,

573
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 2: which be nineteenth among quarterbacks and average value lower in

574
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 2: I thought, so if it's if that were the number,

575
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 2: and let's say Fields, you're talking to Fields as well,

576
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 2: and his number, his number is let's say two years

577
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 2: thirty million dollars.

578
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 3: I was in The number has been in my head

579
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 3: for Fields is two for twenty five.

580
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 2: Well that's what Garder Minshew got, and you're gonna want

581
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 2: more than that if your Fields, I guess I'm better

582
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 2: than Garter Minshew. You want, you know, you want me

583
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 2: as your starter. I want inflation. So two years thirty

584
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 2: million dollars, it's just a nice round number. We're dealing

585
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 2: with your two years fifty million dollars for Wilson versus

586
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 2: two years thirty million dollars for Fields. You've got a

587
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 2: real conversation.

588
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 3: Here, yeah, real conversation. Yeah, and maybe there's incentives for

589
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 3: both of them playoff stuff, Pro Pro Bowls whatever, all

590
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 3: pro and all that kind of stuff, But that's fine.

591
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 3: I thought he'd be higher than that.

592
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 2: And as we've said all, you know, again, I'm not

593
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 2: in either guy that you sign. If it's a two

594
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 2: year deal, they're a bridge. You're not looking. You're not

595
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 2: looking long term here with with with these guys. So

596
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 2: I don't care about the age necessarily that one is

597
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 2: ten years younger than the other, because I'm still going

598
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 2: to try to draft somebody that that.

599
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 3: Is not the bridge. Then it's a good problem to have. Yeah,

600
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 3: you know, right, and that's what you win, right, I mean,

601
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 3: Wilson can't do that at his age, right, you know.

602
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 3: But I also think Wilson would be the better mentor.

603
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 3: I mean, if you're planning on drafting one in this

604
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,479
Speaker 3: draft or next, I don't know, with a top fifty

605
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 3: or top sixty pick at a minimum, probably a first rounder. Yeah,

606
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 3: I kind of want Wilson being his mentor.

607
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, And as I said again, if you're signing the

608
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 2: guy to a two year deal, I want the guy

609
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 2: who's who's going to be the better quarterback for me

610
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five. Oh yeah, yeah, who gives me

611
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 2: the best, the lowest or the highest floor, And that's Wilson.

612
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 2: Now the ceiling for Fields is higher, probably here, but

613
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 2: his floor is lower.

614
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean you could bottom out, you could bought

615
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 3: them up badly. Yeah. Not to mention injuries. I know

616
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 3: Wilson started his Steeler career injured, but he's really over

617
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 3: his career. I mean you've made this point a couple

618
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 3: of times. It's a good one. If you go Fields

619
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 3: and not Wilson, I'm my backup is going to be

620
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 3: pricier than the other way around. Yeah, and so your

621
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 3: quarterback room is still cheap. It's going to be in

622
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 3: that same range. Yeah.

623
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 2: If it's again, if it's twenty five million dollars for Wilson,

624
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 2: you're going to be in that range by the time you.

625
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 3: Even if you draft one in the fourth round, you

626
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 3: get it.

627
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 2: A backup that's going to cost you, you know, five

628
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 2: to seven million dollars.

629
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 3: Next somebody that you can count on. Yeah, and I'm

630
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 3: not sure who that would be, right, Yeah, Like I'd

631
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 3: be more comfortable with Wilson and a second rounder than

632
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 3: Fields in a second rounder. Yeah, I mean because I

633
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 3: could really bought him out. Yeah, you know, it's interesting.

634
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 3: I thought the number on Wilson be higher than that, and.

635
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 2: I think that's where some people are getting, Well, he's

636
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 2: gonna thirty, he's gonna want thirty to forty million.

637
00:29:58,680 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 3: I don't know that he I don't.

638
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 2: Nobody knows that. The only the only people that know

639
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 2: that for sure are are Wilson and his agent and

640
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 2: the Steelers, if you know, if they're having those kind

641
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:08,719
Speaker 2: of talks.

642
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 3: And frankly, the Wilson family has a lot of money.

643
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 3: You know, maybe money's.

644
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 2: Not He's made a lot of bank and you know,

645
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 2: maybe he just likes to Maybe they don't want to move. Hey,

646
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 2: I just got used to playing here. I spent two

647
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 2: years in Denver. That wasn't fun. Yeah, yeah, I don't

648
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 2: want to go somewhere else and start over again.

649
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 3: If they both were true free agents, the buzzer rings

650
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 3: and free agency and they don't have contracts, I think

651
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 3: Fields gets more calls than Wilson. I think it'd be

652
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 3: Raiders Steelers for Wilson. If I were to bet where

653
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 3: he lands, I could see the Giants being interested too.

654
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,959
Speaker 3: That's a good one. Yeah, yeah, I could see that

655
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 3: a coach that's kind of on a short leash. Yeah,

656
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 3: we gotta, we gotta win some games this year. I'm

657
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 3: gonna get fired.

658
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

659
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, you need a veteran. We gotta.

660
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 2: We got a really good receiver wants going to feed him.

661
00:30:58,360 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 3: That's a good one too. Yeah. I don't know the

662
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 3: Jets would do that, but now I think they went

663
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 3: down that road once and it didn't work out.

664
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 2: Right.

665
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 3: You know, would Tennessee be in that market? I bet not.

666
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 2: Probably gonna draft one of those top guys, you know,

667
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 2: with with New Orleans trade out, Probably not, because they

668
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 2: can't afford it.

669
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 3: I think they're selling everybody. Yeah, I think they are

670
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 3: gonna bought them out. Well, I'm not even saying all

671
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 3: those teams that are more teams would be inch in fields.

672
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 3: I'm not sure all of them would say you're the

673
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 3: starter that right. That's the issue.

674
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 2: Like how many of them are going to be willing

675
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 2: to hand over the keys to the car.

676
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 3: I don't know if they'll be mad not. Any competition

677
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 3: might be here's eight million, you're going to compete with Richardson.

678
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 2: Richard might be the Indianapolis that we've talked about that.

679
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 2: You're going to get an opportunity here. But yeah, we

680
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 2: did draft this other guy in the first round a

681
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 2: couple of years ago.

682
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 3: I don't know who would give other than Steelers, who

683
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 3: would give the keys of the car to fields? It's

684
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 3: tough one. I mean, the Giants with the Jets. I

685
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 3: mean maybe by default, if.

686
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 2: The Jets might be more likely to do that than

687
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 2: the Giants because of what you just mentioned. You know,

688
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 2: is Dayball on a short leash, like Okay, he definitely

689
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 2: wants an athletic quarterback. I gotta win some games, zones

690
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 2: in all and I gotta win some games, and I'd

691
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 2: rather not go that, right, Whereas the Jets are, you know,

692
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 2: new staff, and let's say we're rebuilding here.

693
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean if the Giants go with like ward,

694
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 3: doesn't help help you keep your job, right?

695
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 2: No?

696
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 3: Probably? Yeah? No, the musical chairs are really interesting this year.

697
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if it's two years, fifty million dollars, okay, yeah,

698
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 2: that's less than I thought. Yeah, even if it's two

699
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 2: years fifty five million, huh, that's that, doesn't you know

700
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 2: you've got the cap space to do that.

701
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 3: Saying the way you structure it too, you'd still have

702
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 3: a lot to spend this offseason.

703
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 2: You probably have an out, yeah, yeah, you know most

704
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 2: of the money would be built into twenty twenty six.

705
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, and if he's terrible, you probably can't move on. Yeah,

706
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 3: or if you find you figure out the rookie that

707
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 3: you drafted is drafted mill Row and wow he's a female,

708
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 3: right right, It makes sense. So I understand both sides. Yeah,

709
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 3: I do to it. Again.

710
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 2: When we spoke with Fowley, he said it was sixty forty. Yeah, yeah,

711
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 2: the split on you know, because people were on the league, Yeah,

712
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 2: pulling people around the league, so you know, it's it's

713
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 2: not an easy decision, but no one that has to

714
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 2: be made.

715
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm sure that they're close to making it.

716
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 3: When you think that, yeah, maybe that the contract comes out,

717
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 3: but maybe they've decided as an organization.

718
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 2: You're going to have something done before you get before

719
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 2: free agency starts. I would think I would think I

720
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 2: would think so with one of those two guys, I'm

721
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 2: definitely betting on that.

722
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 3: I'm thinking sooner than later. Yeah, So it's a big

723
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 3: story right now. Absolutely. Yeah, it's uh.

724
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 2: Interesting, and I know people get tied up in how

725
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 2: what the finish was losing those those final five games.

726
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 2: But let's not remember, let's not forget too some of

727
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 2: the highs for both guys.

728
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 3: Really, yeah, absolutely, you know it.

729
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 2: Doesn't they both did good things during the season. I

730
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 2: mean it wasn't there's some success here.

731
00:33:59,240 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, they didn't.

732
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 2: They didn't go oh and seventeen, right, which is kind

733
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 2: of where.

734
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,719
Speaker 3: That's how I mean, boy, the comments are so brutal,

735
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 3: and you know, just the general feel it's hopeless.

736
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 2: People wonder why I get like testy with stuff every

737
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 2: time I tweet out a story or something that I've

738
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 2: I spent time writing here and I'm just gonna put

739
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 2: it out there, And I do like to look at

740
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 2: the comments in case somebody has a question about it.

741
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 2: In the first twenty five comments are what doesn't matter

742
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 2: what they do because of this, Because of that.

743
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 3: They're never going to change their ways, or Tomlin will

744
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 3: never win, or you know, it's like, come on, guys, yeah.

745
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 2: Can we get past this and move on to this

746
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 2: part of the season, right right? Does everything have to

747
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 2: be about you know, they're never going to win again,

748
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 2: and this is.

749
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 3: Ntil they fire this guy till this guy retires, or

750
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 3: you know, like.

751
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 2: You're heading into the worst you know, history of the

752
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 2: Steelers since you've covered them. I'm like, no, I bet not,

753
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 2: I'll bet not. You know, I covered the ninety eight,

754
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 2: ninety nine Steelers when they were awful, when things were terrible.

755
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 3: And yeah, you know, just and they still weren't picking

756
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 3: in the top five. No, you know, all right, it's

757
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 3: still not Titan or Brownland or I had to be

758
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 3: the Saints or Brown's fan right now?

759
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, hopelessness, brutal. Anyways, let's get to another break.

760
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 2: He is the Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lollie. You're

761
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 2: listening to the drive here on the Steelers Audio Network,

762
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 2: and that was Dan Graziana projecting some of the big

763
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 2: free agent contracts and extensions two yours fifty million dollars

764
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 2: for Russell Wilson.

765
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 3: That's true, that's encouraging news. Yeah, that gives you a

766
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 3: lot of freedom to do other stuff. Absolutely, that's the

767
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 3: route you take. Yeah, make that happen. Anyways, let's get

768
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 3: to our break. We'll be back with more in a

769
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 3: drive right after this.

770
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: At least he's the drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

771
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the

772
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 1: Black and Gold Steelers.

773
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 2: Nation Radio, and we're back. I'm Dale Lolli. He is

774
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and I'm Matt. Eric at Holme has

775
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 2: put together his first mock draft on NFL. Let we'll

776
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 2: spin through that here real quick before we get to

777
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:06,959
Speaker 2: the top of the hour. We all know the names.

778
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 2: At this point. He's got Abdull Carter going number one

779
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 2: to Tennessee.

780
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 3: It seem to be a little more steam for that.

781
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 2: Cleveland taking Travis Hunter at two. That leaves the Giants

782
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 2: with cam Ward at three. New England then takes Mason

783
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 2: Graham m okay five. At five, the Jaguars take Tyler Warren.

784
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 3: Wow. Earliest I've seen that. Yeah, I will say when

785
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 3: they when they introduced the head coach, he really stressed

786
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 3: rebuilding the lines like they did in Tampa. Yeah.

787
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 2: And they have Ingram Yeah again pass Catcher, I guess, yeah,

788
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,240
Speaker 2: he's a good player. At six, the Raiders take Ashton Genty.

789
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 3: Wow. It's indeed, Yeah, earliest I've seen that one. But okay.

790
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,280
Speaker 2: At seven, the Jets and take Schador Sanders.

791
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 3: Wow. Big market with the Sanders fan.

792
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,280
Speaker 2: Both quarter both quarterbacks in the same market.

793
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:00,879
Speaker 3: How about that, what could go wrong?

794
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 2: At eight, Carolina takes Jalen Walker ed Rusher Od at georgiaown.

795
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 3: They should have a good defensive player sitting there for him.

796
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 2: At nine, the Saints take Tedoroa McMillan, wide receiver out

797
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 2: of Arizona. Boy, the receivers are depleted, to say the least,

798
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 2: to say the least, and the Lave's got a concussion history.

799
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 2: At ten, the Bears take Will Campbell, the offensive lineman

800
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 2: from LSU.

801
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,399
Speaker 3: And that's pretty chalky. Is some kind of lineman there.

802
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 2: The forty nine Ers at eleven take our man Membu Missouri.

803
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 3: Off another pretty chockey one lineman lineman at ten eleven.

804
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 2: At twelve, the Cawiboys take Tyler Booker, the Alabama guard.

805
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 3: Wow, a lot of people have him high, and I

806
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 3: don't look at him like Hutchinson coming out. I mean,

807
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 3: he's good, but maybe just kind of speaks to the

808
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 3: top of the draft not being great. At thirteen, the

809
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 3: Dolphins keep the offensive line yeah and rolling to be

810
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 3: good for the Steelers. They take Calvin Banks, junior fine

811
00:37:56,080 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 3: offensive tackle out of Texas. At fourteen, the Colts take

812
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 3: Nick m Uwari, the safety out of Wow, South Carolina. Okay,

813
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 3: I mean we know that the Bengals former defensive coordinator

814
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 3: stresses a safety play in a big, big way. That's

815
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 3: pretty early, but I could see getting your defensive coordinator

816
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 3: the PC needs. Yeah.

817
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 2: At fifteen, the Falcons take Shamar Stewart to edge rusher

818
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 2: out of Texas A and M. He would fit right

819
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 2: in there because he doesn't never get sad quarterback.

820
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 3: It looks pretty doing it.

821
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 2: He did a good week though, and he did, he did,

822
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 2: but he had like what a sack of year?

823
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 3: Yeah? Okay.

824
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 2: At sixteen, Arizona takes mikeel Williams, the Georgia edge rusher.

825
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 3: Fine.

826
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 2: Seventeen, the Bengals take Donovan Ezraku, the Boston College edge rusher.

827
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 3: Hard to Colin Hubbard and Miles Murphy hasn't done much

828
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,240
Speaker 3: for you now. At least he's more of a speedball

829
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 3: than those guys.

830
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 2: Eighteen, the Seahawks take Jihad Campbell, the Alabama linebacker.

831
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 3: Okay, they traded for Jones. I would think that's a

832
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 3: better chance to be O line. Yeah.

833
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 2: At nineteen, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers take Matthew Golden, the

834
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 2: wide receiver out of.

835
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,879
Speaker 3: If you lose. If you lose Godwin, Yeah, I think

836
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 3: you want to replenish that.

837
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 2: At twenty Denver takes Colston Loveland, the Michigan tight end.

838
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 2: Who is that took him Denver?

839
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's had a good history with tight ends. Yeah.

840
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 3: You get your young quarterbacks, some I'm going to kind

841
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 3: of grow with.

842
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 2: At twenty one, the Steelers take Will Johnson Miss Johnson's

843
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 2: still available. Yeah, and there's been a few mocks that

844
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 2: that's actually happened. People are questioning his speed, Okay, fair enough.

845
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 2: I mean we haven't seen him in a while. It's

846
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 2: a big corner. He's a big corner. I don't know

847
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 2: he's gonna run a four to three. Yeah, I don't

848
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 2: really care if he does. To be honest with you,

849
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 2: right from what I know about him, I'd gladly take

850
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 2: him in twenty one. At twenty two, the Chargers take

851
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 2: Caleb Johnson, the Iowa running back.

852
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 3: Wow, pretty early. Yeah, I don't think two backs will

853
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,399
Speaker 3: go in the first round. I think so. I could

854
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 3: see Harball liking him.

855
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,959
Speaker 2: Twenty three, the Packers take Josh Simmons, the offensive tackle

856
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:04,879
Speaker 2: out of Ohio State.

857
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 3: They could probably even ease him in slow.

858
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 2: At twenty four, Minnesota takes Derek Harmon, the Oregon defensive tackle.

859
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 3: Such a good dline class. I don't know that i'd

860
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 3: have him with a round one grade. That's only the

861
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 3: second one, yeah, second true? Would you take him over Nolan? No,

862
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 3: I would not, I would take Nolan.

863
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 2: At twenty five, the Texans take Gray's Abel, the North

864
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 2: Dakota State offensive lineman.

865
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 3: People are now projecting him as the top center in

866
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 3: the draft, which I think he proved. And if not,

867
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 3: he's going to be a really good guard. Yeah you

868
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:42,320
Speaker 3: said that was Texans. Yeah he would. It seems early,

869
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 3: don't get me wrong, but boy, he would help the

870
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 3: interior that Messio line. Yeah.

871
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 2: Twenty six, the Rams take Donovan Jackson, the offensive lineman

872
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 2: out of Ohio State, their left tackles a free agent.

873
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 2: At twenty seven, the Ravens take Jonah Saivania, the offensive

874
00:40:58,239 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 2: lineman from Arizona.

875
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 3: Okay, I assume he'd be a guard for them, But

876
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 3: guard's a need. Yeah, I mean, even if they lose Stanley,

877
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 3: guard would be also a need. Yeah, he's a masher

878
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 3: that they like.

879
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 2: At twenty eight, the Lions take Mike Green, the Marshall

880
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 2: edge rusher.

881
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,800
Speaker 3: That's fine. Yeah, I mean, if he's a part time player,

882
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 3: play a lot of leads. Washington.

883
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:24,240
Speaker 2: Then at twenty nine takes James Pierce Junior, the rusher

884
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 2: out of Tennessee.

885
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 3: They have a lot of needs too for being a

886
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 3: Final four team. Yeah, I'm not sure what direction they

887
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 3: don't need to go.

888
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 2: At thirty the Bills take Kenneth Grant to Michigan defensive tackle.

889
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 3: I'm a problem with that. He's a lot different than

890
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 3: that Oliver obviously, and they've always had a big plugger

891
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 3: type and there guy's getting a little older. This one

892
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 3: doesn't make any sense.

893
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 2: At thirty one, he has the Eagles taking Luther Burden,

894
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 2: the wide receiver out of Missouri.

895
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 3: I mean, I was shocked they traded for Dotson is

896
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,280
Speaker 3: a third guy because they don't play a ton of eleven.

897
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 3: They don't throw a ton. You just locked up your

898
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 3: two outside guys like yeah, yeah, receivers, Like I mean,

899
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 3: maybe the logic is I just want to get this

900
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 3: guy in the first round and he's too good to

901
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,399
Speaker 3: be true. Maybe he's my twentieth best player and I'm

902
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 3: giving him a thirty one to team that doesn't have

903
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,879
Speaker 3: a ton of needs, but I bet they go D line.

904
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 2: They do, you know, we're offensive line even maybe Yeah,

905
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 2: at thirty two, then the Chiefs take Azeri A. Thomas,

906
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 2: the Florida State cornerback. I think he's gonna be very

907
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 2: much in the first round mix.

908
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 3: He had a great week. I don't know about twenty one,

909
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:30,399
Speaker 3: but we might get to April and be like twenty one. Yeah,

910
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 3: I mean they play a lot of man at Florida State.

911
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,280
Speaker 3: He had a great week. He's got size yet speed.

912
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,760
Speaker 3: He's I think first round is very you know, viable

913
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 3: for him.

914
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 2: Yeh, He's definitely intriguing. But that was Eric aed Holmes

915
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 2: first shot at a mock draft. That's coming out of

916
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 2: the Senior Bowl. I'd think Will Johnson Yeah, okay, right,

917
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 2: as long as he didn't walk up a corner before

918
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 2: the drive. Absolutely, but let's get to another break. That's

919
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 2: going to do it for our number one of the

920
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 2: drive here on the Steelers Audio Network when we come

921
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 2: back mad night. We haven't done a mock draft in

922
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 2: a week. I know I was thinking that too, is

923
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 2: looking forward to it. We're gonna do a little mockdra

924
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 2: so much better now and yeah, different approach, Yeah, absolutely,

925
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 2: so we'll do that when we return. That's going to

926
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Speaker 2: do it for our number one, Matt, and I'll be

927
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Speaker 2: back with our number two right after this