1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 2: Do not attempt to adjust your dial, ladies and gentlemen. 3 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 2: We're sort of passing on our normal roll called music, 4 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 2: and I wanted to bring it back to my hometown 5 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 2: of Philadelphia. If you are a Philadelphian, you know that 6 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 2: this particular theme has some sort of sentimental meeting. If 7 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 2: you're a watcher of w XTF Channel twenty nine, of 8 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 2: course they use the world famous twilight instrumental from our 9 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 2: guest today. What can I say this is, I know 10 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 2: I've said we've done special episodes of Quest Love Supreme before, 11 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 2: but this is probably super special. The first time I'm 12 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 2: using the words in front of it. So as you know, 13 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 2: we are here in Los Angeles, California, doing this in 14 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 2: person and not on the zoom. And the thing about 15 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 2: where we're located is we're just kind of a stone's 16 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 2: throwaway from the iconic Capitol Records building. 17 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 3: When you think of. 18 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 2: That label and if your love with music, you think 19 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 2: of nat King Cole, the Beatles, and Beach Boys and 20 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 2: Duran durand people pricing milk Boy, Petchhot Boys, Louverrawl's Natalie Cole, 21 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 2: you know there's But for me in my childhood, when 22 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 2: I think of that logo, especially the classic orange and 23 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 2: brown logo spinning on the turntable, I think of our 24 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 2: steam special guest today, and I will say that throughout 25 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 2: my childhood when we talk about you get past the barbecue, 26 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 2: you best believe that that barbecue is going to be 27 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 2: somewhat scored in soundtracked by our guest today. You name 28 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 2: the classics, we should know them all. They're national anthems, 29 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:02,279 Speaker 2: Golden Time of the Day, Southern Girl, joy, pain, feeling 30 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 2: one dack and stride, silky soul, and of course you 31 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 2: know the morning after. 32 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:11,639 Speaker 3: And silk not to. 33 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 2: Mention the national anthem of life is before I let 34 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 2: go right, you know, our guest is the definition of 35 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 2: the barbecue, despite the fact that I've never seen him 36 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 2: wear anything but the color white, and as a Philly native, 37 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 2: it is only right that we bring our brother on 38 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 2: the show to celebrate his life and celebrate his career, 39 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 2: and we have his family with us. Ladies and gentlemen, 40 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 2: please welcome to quest Loft Supreme the one and only, 41 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:46,239 Speaker 2: the legendary Frankie Beverly, along with his cousin Miss Qugh, 42 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 2: Miss Hugh and will thank you. 43 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 4: I don't even need my. 44 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 3: Own clap. 45 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 5: America. 46 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 6: Can I just ask you, we and DC would appreciate 47 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 6: if you to say Philadelphia and DC's own today. 48 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 3: Yes, okay, see, thank you. 49 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 2: Part of the running gag of the show is the 50 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: fact that you know Layah often coach, which is where 51 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 2: she's from today? 52 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 3: You're from DC today? 53 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 5: Yes, I have to wrap. 54 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 3: Yes, okay, well I'm. 55 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:15,399 Speaker 2: From Philadelphia to day. But guess what You're from Philadelphia too? 56 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 3: Okay? Anyway, we thank you so much for being on 57 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 3: the show. Thank you. 58 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,239 Speaker 2: There's so much like I I want to know and 59 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 2: I'm so overwhelmed right now because you are a hero 60 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 2: to all of us musically and whatnot. 61 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 3: And I don't know, just thank you for being there. 62 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 3: How are you today? 63 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 4: It's beautiful. I'm glad to see you, guys, and it's 64 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 4: just oneerful. 65 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:42,119 Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you so much. 66 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 2: I guess what I would like to know is were 67 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 2: you born in I'm claiming as my hometown. I was 68 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 2: born in your hometown. Were you born in Philadelphia? 69 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 7: Yes? 70 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 3: What part of Philadelphia are you from? 71 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 4: Born in North Philly? 72 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 3: Okay, Jill wins not me grew up. 73 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 4: A lot in Germantow okay, yeah, north side of things. 74 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 2: I'm from West Villy, Yeah, okay, And I think gentrification 75 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 2: now has me saying that I grew up in Walnut Lane, 76 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 2: which they've recently called it. 77 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 3: Yes, exactly when gingrification comes through. 78 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was once in the hood and then now 79 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, University of Pen has tooken over, 80 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 2: so now we call it Walnut Lane. 81 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 3: But I live in fifty second in oce Age. 82 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 4: That's okay. 83 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 3: What I mentioned like North Philadelphia. 84 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 2: For you, what what can you describe to me about it? 85 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 4: Well, I grew up there. I grew uptown then near 86 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 4: the Uptown Theater, Yes, around that area. 87 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 2: Where you often a witness of shows there or watch 88 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 2: a lot of shows that. 89 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 4: Absolutely to go around there, watch all gods of stuff. 90 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 4: And then I got older and moved up to Germantown 91 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 4: and that's where went to Wagner School. Yeah, okay, Germantown 92 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 4: High Okay. 93 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 3: Black Thought and uh Frankie Beverley went to Germantown High. 94 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 4: Yeah. 95 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 2: Shout out to Spawn too, who went to Okay, yeah, okay, 96 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 2: so rich related you went to Germantown High School? You know, 97 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 2: were you at all in your beginnings as as a singer, 98 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 2: were you more gospel based in like coming through the 99 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 2: church or were you do wopped like what was your 100 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 2: musical entry in both? 101 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 4: I went to church a lot and sang. But once 102 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 4: I got going in school, that's when the other stuff happened. 103 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 4: Other things came in my life, you know. And I 104 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 4: went to go uptown in North Philly, and then I 105 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 4: moved back up to Germantown later on in my life 106 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 4: and went to Wagner Junior High and went to Germantown School. 107 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 3: How long did you stay in Philadelphia before you? Well, 108 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 3: quite a while, Okay, quite. 109 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 4: A while in my twenties. 110 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 2: So was Rossol formed in Philadelphia or was that your 111 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 2: first band or I'm trying to think. 112 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 4: That's a that's a good question. The Butler's, well, the 113 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 4: Butler's was before that? 114 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 3: Was that named after streets of Philadelphia? 115 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 4: Were you? No? 116 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 3: Said? 117 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 2: When you say Butler to any Philadelphia, It's like, oh God, no. 118 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 4: It wasn't. I really don't know where it came from. 119 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 4: But the name came Butler's. 120 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I have to ask this question just for me. 121 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 2: My father is also a du wop singer from Philadelphia. 122 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 2: So that's how I knew you, know, of your music. 123 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 2: He was in my father's Leandrews of Leandrews in the Hearts. 124 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 4: Is that right? Yeah? That so oh I was a 125 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 4: big plan. 126 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 3: Oh, thank you so much, thank you, thank you, thank you. 127 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 2: But like generally at the time, like what was the 128 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 2: musical environment of Phility, because you know, we often talk 129 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 2: about the sound of Philadelphia and people mostly think about 130 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 2: like Gamble and Heff and what they've done in the seventies, 131 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 2: but not many people know that Philadelphia has a and 132 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 2: even richer tapestry of music, do wop and you know, 133 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 2: operate like with everything. 134 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 4: But for you, it's more than what most people think. 135 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 4: Philadelphia was big time music, all sorts of things. You know. 136 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 4: I got real tied into Frankie Lime. 137 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 3: Was he your favorite singer? 138 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 4: He was one of them knowing you know, knowing my 139 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 4: young years, that was real. 140 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 6: Big Why you went towards Frankie the name Frankie because 141 00:07:58,040 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 6: Frankie is not your first name. 142 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 3: No, I did not know this. 143 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 4: My name is Stanley. 144 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not my real. 145 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 4: My first name is Stamle Howard Howard span Okay. 146 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 3: So Frankie was from Frankie Liman. 147 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 4: Yes, I did not know that. Absolutely. He started me going, what. 148 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 3: Was it about Frankie Lyman that you loved? 149 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 4: He could sing? Okay, he could sing. He had a 150 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 4: big impact on me. 151 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 2: Going up, I was about to say he had a 152 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 2: big impact on all of us, because even when I 153 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 2: was in first grade. So I went to a performing 154 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 2: arts school in Philadelphia. First day of school and our 155 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 2: homework assignment was bring in your favorite song or your 156 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 2: favorite forty five and I brought in why do Fools 157 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 2: Fall in Love? Because my parents parents had tricked me. Okay, 158 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 2: my mom hates want to tell the story. My dad 159 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 2: tricked me into thinking that do wop music was new music. 160 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 3: So I was in, this is nineteen seventy six. 161 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 2: So everyone else is bringing in the Beg's and Stevie 162 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 2: Wonder and whatnot, and I brought in white a Fools 163 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 2: Fall in Love and they were like, oh, this was 164 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 2: out when I was a little kid, and you know, 165 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 2: every adult was one hundred years old to me. 166 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 3: So I came home and then when. 167 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 2: My mom told me, yes, this came out in like 168 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 2: nineteen fifty eight, and I thought that was like a 169 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 2: thousand years ago, like That's when I realized there was 170 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 2: a timeline on music, like so I too loved White 171 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 2: the Fool's Fall in Love and yeah, I see that. 172 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 2: Did you have brothers and sisters that were in music 173 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 2: as well? Like did you grow up in a musical household? 174 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 4: I mean my mother and father, my brother sang, but 175 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 4: not like I did what I got in the groups 176 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 4: really young and raw soul? Do you remember ra? 177 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah, I've seen on YouTube right now. I mean 178 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 2: there's like there's a concert. 179 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 3: Of raw soul. 180 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like nineteen I believe, like seventy five, seventy 181 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 2: six is live and it's some I believe it's in 182 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 2: the Bay Area or whatever, like it's just right before 183 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 2: it's Frankly Beverly Mazes raw Soul, and like for me, 184 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 2: like the audience, the audience reaction was the most exciting 185 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 2: part of watching. 186 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 3: That as raw soul. 187 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 2: How are you guys able to get that exciting reaction 188 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 2: from the crowd without having I would assume did they 189 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 2: have singles and a record deal before you guys transferred 190 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 2: to Maze or. 191 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 4: We made little records before Mays came. Yeah, Mays came 192 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 4: along when went to California, Okay, while I was in Philly, 193 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 4: it was I can't even remember. 194 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 3: The name Russel. 195 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 4: Was it wrong? Yeah, it was wrong, So that's true. Yeah. 196 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 4: But but at the Philly was my teacher. I had 197 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 4: a lot of good people, a lot of good acts 198 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 4: out of Philly, a lot of the time of the people. 199 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 4: So yeah, it was a great place to be. Oh, 200 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 4: a lot of what I am today to that town. 201 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 7: Good. 202 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 3: Great, Well, that town appreciates you. 203 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,719 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess the story of how Maze came 204 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 2: into my life, so I did. I never knew the 205 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 2: story of like Marvin Gaye seeing you guys and discovering 206 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 2: you guys until when I heard Silky Soul. Then I 207 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 2: heard the backstory and whatnot about you paying tribute to him. 208 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 2: But could you talk about like how Marvin Gaye's presence 209 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 2: sort of changed. 210 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 4: Though you can imagine, I mean if he didn't meet 211 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 4: him at that stage, and he was such a like 212 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 4: a big brother to me. He used to let us 213 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 4: open shows coming up. 214 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,719 Speaker 2: You know what do you think that it was that 215 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 2: he saw in you guys that made it special. 216 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 3: We were a group okay. 217 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 4: We were a group, was about five of us or something. 218 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:33,719 Speaker 4: We were young, guys. But we could sing yeah, and 219 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 4: he liked that. Actually did a Christmas kind of. 220 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 3: Thing, Okay, Christmas holiday, Christmas hold and. 221 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 4: He got involved and helpless to do that. And I 222 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 4: was so young, you know, but he was a good 223 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 4: guy man, marvelous. 224 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 7: Wow. 225 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 4: Really changed my life. Got it going, and my mother 226 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 4: and then loved. 227 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 7: Them that they did. 228 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 4: It's Marvin Marvin Day. 229 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 7: That's right. 230 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 2: How would you describe the sound of Maze because it's 231 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 2: really hard to describe. I mean, yes, we could say 232 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 2: soul music, but there's something about the texture of that 233 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 2: that really speaks to black folks in a way that 234 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 2: you know, if we could figure out the formula, I'm 235 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 2: sure that all of us would try to copy it 236 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:40,719 Speaker 2: and apply it. 237 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 3: But it's really hard to tell. 238 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 4: Like, what's interesting, I've never heard anybody, but I think 239 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 4: you're absolutely right. It's being from Philadelphia has a big 240 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 4: thing with that. Philly had a lot of talent. 241 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 2: Was there was there any moment or any time period 242 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 2: that you guys ever thought about or wanted to record 243 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 2: at Philadelphia International, like with Kenny Gamble and Leon Huff, 244 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 2: like to be a part of the Philadelphia International system. 245 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 4: At that time. I was so young, No, okay, I 246 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 4: mean I wasn't old enough to be chipping on on that. 247 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 4: But then then I moved to California and that whole 248 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 4: thing changed. I got out there and I still didn't 249 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 4: sign with him, but I got close to him, and 250 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 4: he's always helped me a little bit too. Yeah, gamble, Yeah, 251 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 4: he's always been a big help to me. 252 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 2: What was it like watching the beginnings of his journey 253 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 2: and this sort of slow rising of his sound? 254 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 4: Like? 255 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 3: What was it like, ass family members watching this? 256 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 5: Exciting? It was exciting because we saw the work that 257 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 5: he put in. It was rewarding for him and for 258 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 5: the family because we have a musical family, and of 259 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 5: course not to the extent that Frankie has made it, 260 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 5: but saw the work that he did, the long nights, 261 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 5: the endless nights, I should say that he kept going. 262 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 5: He kept going, and he knew what he wanted to do. 263 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 5: He never wanted to do anything else but sing and 264 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 5: play his music. So that's what I saw. I saw 265 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 5: somebody that was just determined and that determination paid off, 266 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 5: and he loved what he did. It was a passion there, Okay, 267 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 5: the passion. He was passionate about his music. He loved 268 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 5: to write, and I asked him this many times a 269 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 5: long time ago. He loved to talk about love. Love 270 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 5: is his go to word. 271 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 3: You're right, yeah, go to word. 272 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 5: And he loved to talk back. Then he with the 273 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 5: uprise of all types of things going on with the world, 274 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 5: he started to think about those things too, and he 275 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 5: talked about how like, oh, this is horrible, I'm gonna 276 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 5: go write a song about this. And so that's how 277 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 5: he came to that we are one people coming together 278 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 5: instead of being a part. So he absolutely started to 279 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 5: feel about or start to feel how people were feeling 280 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 5: about their own lives and what about this. We should 281 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 5: be as one, We should be helping these other people. 282 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 5: So that's what I saw. I saw him just work 283 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 5: hard and think about what other people were going through 284 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 5: and just thinking about the love. That's really who he is, 285 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 5: the person of love. 286 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 2: So would you say that songwriting was therapeutic for you 287 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 2: in terms of expressing yourself? Yes, absolutely, yeah, because I'll 288 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 2: say that love like oftentimes I think people will tend 289 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 2: to type cast soul music and R and B as 290 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 2: somewhat like meaningless love music or whatever. But I don't know, 291 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 2: I think coming from you especially the way you sing. 292 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 2: There's such a gentle comforting, right, yeah, And it's such 293 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 2: a gentle Normally, gentle singers are are like like high, 294 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 2: like falsetto smoky stylistics, and so it's very rare to 295 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 2: hear a baritone voice that's that gentle and that sort 296 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 2: of thing. 297 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 4: I appreciate it. 298 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 2: I'm reflecting to you what I'm only showing you what 299 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 2: you are. But yeah, like in the sixties and seventies, 300 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 2: when most lead singers were high falsetto. 301 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 4: Hi voices, whatever. 302 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 2: For you, was there was that ever an option like 303 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 2: to figure out because sometimes like Ronald Eisley will. 304 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 3: Go between his high voice and his little voice. But 305 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 3: for you, was there No. 306 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 4: I never thought of that. Oh okay, I was gonna 307 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 4: be the singer. 308 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, the approachable every day guy. Okay, I 309 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 3: get that. 310 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 5: And that's what he really was. Approachable. That's a that's 311 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 5: a good term approachable. 312 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 7: I see that. 313 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, he was approachable. What do you what was I think? 314 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 4: What do you think? Now? 315 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 5: I was you know what I was just thinking. 316 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 6: I was like, yeah, because I was thinking about awards 317 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 6: and I was thinking about like these Grammys and these 318 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 6: all these awards, and I was like, to my recollection, 319 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 6: you guys don't have a lot of those. But the 320 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 6: acceptance of you in the community, and I seen you 321 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 6: speak about this. 322 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 5: Before far exceeds. 323 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 6: So that everyday manism that you're talking about, it's worth 324 00:18:56,160 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 6: so much more. It looks like than the untouched it. 325 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 3: Right. 326 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, we that's very true, honey. It seems like our 327 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 4: people really supported us, even from a young stage, as much. 328 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 6: As we could. 329 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 8: Yes, yeah, no, I've been to I've had the privilege 330 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 8: attendant on one of your shows. You came to my 331 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 8: hometown at Raleigh, North Carolina. This was this was some 332 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 8: years back, and y'all played this amphitheater. It was outside 333 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 8: and I mean you came out and it was full 334 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 8: of people and they sang every word. 335 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 7: They sang every word. I was like, if Frank you 336 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 7: want to chill the night. He didn't got the same. 337 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 3: We gonna sing form, you know what I mean? 338 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 8: But I think, you know, speaking of what like he 339 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,239 Speaker 8: was saying, just you know, I just want to make 340 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 8: sure that we communicate to you today. You know, you 341 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 8: were just a staple in our households, you know what 342 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,959 Speaker 8: I'm saying, Like your music was like always there, and 343 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 8: it was and it was oftentimes too. It wasn't just 344 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 8: your music was there, but your music was the soundtrack 345 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 8: to some of the best times of our lives. 346 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 7: It's like you. 347 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 8: Always associated I always associated Frankie, Beverly and Mads with 348 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 8: good times, you know what I'm saying, And like what 349 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 8: you were saying about him singing with love we need 350 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 8: love to live. 351 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 7: That was like one of my favorites. So like, I 352 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 7: would always play that. 353 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 8: I even a very long time ago, I said it 354 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 8: was like, Wow, I sampled it and wrapped over it 355 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 8: did not come out. 356 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 3: I was sixteen. 357 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, Shine, Golden Time of the Day was the original 358 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 2: music the Clones. Oh my god, if you can ever imagine, Wow, 359 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 2: but we couldn't make the loop work and so then 360 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 2: we start all over again. 361 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 8: Yeah, but but no, no, you it was just always 362 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 8: a spirit that came through in your music and just 363 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 8: really spoke just to all of us and just made 364 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 8: us all feel really good. And you know, I've seen it, 365 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 8: just the magic of you performing and people. 366 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 7: You know, it's like your family member. 367 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's it's so beautiful. You guys gonna make me 368 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 4: start crying. 369 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 2: This is called the Frankie Beverley takes his flowers today. 370 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 4: That's what it is. 371 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 2: You know, I'm curious about because now we live in 372 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 2: a time when bands are almost non existent. I come 373 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 2: from a band of eleven members that like, I mean, 374 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 2: it's just you're you're, You're hard pressed to find any 375 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 2: bands existing today. But can I ask you, like, at 376 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 2: times in your mind, is it easier fronting a band 377 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 2: or did you ever imagine a life from which you 378 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 2: were just a solo artist by yourself without like Frankie 379 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 2: Beverly and Maze. 380 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 4: Like always part of it. Never thought of myself it's 381 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 4: a single actor ever. 382 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 3: Say, at no point were you just like hey, I like. 383 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 4: No, oh, it was very moved by Frankie Lahman. 384 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 3: And the Okay, so you're aways wanted to be in 385 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 3: a band context. I see that for you. 386 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 2: Do you have any memories of like how you write 387 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 2: songs or how our ideas come to you? 388 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 4: Even today, I write songs that that I want to 389 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 4: sing about, you know, I want to say things that 390 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 4: I think people want to hear. 391 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 2: Well, I have a question about one particular song, which 392 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 2: is the National Anthem, because this is just hitting me 393 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 2: right now. 394 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 3: This is the happiest breakup song. 395 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 7: Yeah. 396 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 2: I literally when he said that, when he said that 397 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 2: I was going through the I said, wait a minute, 398 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying. 399 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 3: Like, even it's the happiest breakup song, it still makes. 400 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 9: Us you better get on that act, right. 401 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm afraid to ask, like was that based on it? 402 00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 3: Like do you write from real life experiences? 403 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 2: Or I have friends that write they'll express where their 404 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 2: friends aren't able to express, or his experiences. 405 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 4: But you know that song, I don't I remember, right, 406 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 4: but I don't. I don't remember what motivated you forgot. 407 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 2: But then again, some of the some of the biggest 408 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 2: hits ever are just like afterthoughts, you know what I mean, Yeah. 409 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:29,719 Speaker 4: Something something happened. Maybe maybe it was some thing I 410 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 4: was in I was some it. 411 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 2: Well then you know, because the thing is is that 412 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 2: that song is on the live album and there's only 413 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 2: two other studio cuts on there. So I oftentimes I'll 414 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 2: ask X, like when they stick an extra song or 415 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 2: two on the Greatest Hits or the live album, and 416 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 2: they always say, oh, it was just an afterthought, like 417 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 2: we didn't put much deep thought into it, just on there, 418 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 2: and it became an anthem. 419 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 3: Were you shocked? Were you shocked at how that song 420 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 3: was received? And won't go away? 421 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 4: Ever? I think I was shocked how that song took off. Okay, 422 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 4: that's a good point. I mean I liked the song, 423 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 4: but I was blown away about how it how the 424 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 4: people liked it so much? 425 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 2: Has there ever been a franky Beverly show in which. 426 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 3: You don't perform that song? And is there. 427 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 7: Home? 428 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 2: Look, Nirvana spent a whole year never playing smells like 429 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 2: teen Spirit like some different. 430 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 6: Crown these aunties, and you don't happy feeling we got dressed? 431 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 3: You want to hear before I let go? Period? Is 432 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 3: that a lot? Right? 433 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 4: No, that's that's true, honey. Yeah, y'all mentioning songs that 434 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 4: people still want to hear it now, right. 435 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 6: But there's no songs like that you can skip, like 436 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 6: a mir said, you can't skip happy feelings at a 437 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 6: show you want to sing it. 438 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 7: How did y'all decide on the name made for the band? 439 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 2: That's that is a good question because I like ros 440 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 2: Soul too, But like, why was it Lark and Arnold 441 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 2: or is someone that capital? 442 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 4: That was just like no, no, no, no, it was 443 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 4: it was bam, it was well, I can tell you 444 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 4: that Marvin gated like ras soul he did. 445 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 3: What did he feel was didn't sound just ordinary to him? 446 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 4: Or well he just thought I need to change, you know, 447 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 4: and they find a little better name. 448 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 8: For I just remember being a kid, and you know 449 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 8: my aunt she would have y'all albums and it was 450 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 8: always try. 451 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,360 Speaker 3: To solve that. I actually would try to do too. 452 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 3: I used to get down cover and try to solve 453 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 3: the maids. Like. 454 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 8: No, it didn't get in trouble for writing on her 455 00:25:54,280 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 8: album cover, but it was worth it. 456 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 2: Like we have our favorites of yours as far as 457 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 2: your songs are concerned. But what songs are your favorite 458 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,679 Speaker 2: in your catalog? Like what, What's Near? And dear to 459 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:12,120 Speaker 2: your heart? 460 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 10: Boy? 461 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:19,120 Speaker 4: Just about all of them? I did? I mean if 462 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 4: I recording them, they meant something too. They got me 463 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 4: in there your kids. 464 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 2: So it's hard to pick a favorite one one that 465 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:29,679 Speaker 2: you like more. 466 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 4: Than the other or oh no, I don't like none 467 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 4: of them more than all of them. Yeah, I thought 468 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 4: it was a it's a blessing, you know when you 469 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 4: do when you're a writer and you that's a blessing. 470 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 4: It comes from a man above, whether it be me 471 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 4: or whoever you know, like Stevie Wonder and people like 472 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 4: you know, they must be the same thing for them. 473 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,120 Speaker 4: When you're a writer and you come with this one 474 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 4: thing after another that comes from from the major place. 475 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 3: From another s vessel. 476 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, of all your albums, is there a favorite one 477 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,120 Speaker 2: of yours that you love more than? 478 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 7: If? 479 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 3: I can't get you one song? 480 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 4: Love them? 481 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 5: Okay, I'm a remix this question. All right, this is 482 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 5: my question. 483 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,719 Speaker 6: If there was a way for you not to have 484 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 6: to sing one of these songs that you're always singing 485 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 6: at every single show, which song would you be like, Oh, 486 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 6: I'm so happy I don't have to sing that tonight. 487 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 7: I love it. 488 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 3: I'm tired. Well wait a minute, yeah, don't yeah, don't 489 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 3: throw off the bag. 490 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,239 Speaker 6: I mean, because these are songs you've been singing for 491 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 6: a long time, and I'm just. 492 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 5: Like you never get tired of. 493 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 6: Just come on before I'll let you go. 494 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 4: I'm tired. 495 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, sing it for him? That's true that. 496 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 8: I've seen it, like it's so like he It was 497 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 8: a show you came to. You came to Raley and 498 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 8: uh mint Condition was opening and so men condition. Oh 499 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,879 Speaker 8: it was a great show and you know you were 500 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 8: doing your songs and everybody, I mean like literally, like 501 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 8: the whole empathis he could have he would have danced, 502 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 8: he could do the step, he could have ate chicken, 503 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 8: he could do whatever. 504 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 3: It was over like that they had him and you. 505 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,959 Speaker 8: Another thing that I was curious to know if and 506 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 8: if y'all can add on this as well. You know, 507 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 8: the thing that's so amazing to me about your legacy 508 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 8: is that you've been able to tour like people. A 509 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 8: lot of times with black artists, we have to, Okay, 510 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 8: if you want to go on tour, you got to 511 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 8: have a new album out or what. 512 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 7: New you got? 513 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 8: What got There's always this kind of pressure to feed 514 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 8: the machine in order to be able to tour whatever. 515 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 8: And you are always an example if I'm like, look, 516 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 8: Frankie Beverley ain't put out a new record in how 517 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 8: many years, but people show up for him every time. 518 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying, every time? You know what 519 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 8: I mean, what do you attribute to that longevity? 520 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 4: God that I wish I was that smart, but no, 521 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 4: it's it just is what it is, and that's what 522 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 4: I do. 523 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 3: You know, I have a question, what part of. 524 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 2: The United States do you feel is like your biggest 525 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 2: fan base. Yes, I mean I figured New Orleans because 526 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 2: that's where you made the record. However, I've learned that 527 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 2: you know, Asville, North Carolina also has a great audience, 528 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 2: and and Oakland has a great audience. 529 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 3: So for you, like what what? 530 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 2: What are you the favorite cities of yours that you've 531 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 2: toured throughout the years most of the mm hmm. 532 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 3: I think this is why your success. 533 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 4: Because you. 534 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 5: Can say d is okay, uh. 535 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 4: No, I was that's one of them. I think you 536 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 4: know all of the major cities, all of them. I mean, I. 537 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 6: Can't where we are, where we are and where we 538 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 6: have passion. 539 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 4: I'm telling you it's it's it's amazing to me. I'm 540 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 4: blown away by it too. I don't know what. 541 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 5: Excuse me, what is the white thing? 542 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 4: What is the questions? 543 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 6: What is the inspiration behind wearing so much white? 544 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? When did that become a thing? 545 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 4: Oh? 546 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 3: I didn't. 547 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 4: I don't think I've been chipped on that. I think 548 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 4: I was told to do that. None of the people 549 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 4: who's making my clothes saw any different than that. You know, 550 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 4: they all suggested the same thing I was wearing all 551 00:30:55,160 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 4: the time. Yeah, so some somehow they thought I'd need 552 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 4: to stay in that google that U was always in. 553 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 5: And if you saw some of his earlier outfits in 554 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 5: the earlier years, he would wear red, all red, really 555 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 5: all black, and then he just stuck with it all white. 556 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 5: But back in the day it was all red red hat, yes. 557 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 6: Because back into video that was definitely not a white 558 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 6: out that was a white outfit time. 559 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know too much else. 560 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 4: I've done nothing crazy, you know. 561 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 2: Right, Okay, you're right, I'm looking right now. I did 562 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 2: go on Soul Train to see and you're wearing. 563 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 3: All red right here. 564 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 2: But with the hat though, yes, and the beard. I 565 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 2: didn't know you from Philly, and then you know, your 566 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 2: beard was like. 567 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 3: A beard. 568 00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 5: So he asked the question. I think it was that 569 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 5: that was back in the early eighties and he was 570 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 5: actually in LA when he did this show. And on 571 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 5: that show he asked having a conversation with the audience 572 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 5: out there, and they said, I understand that you all 573 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 5: think that I'm bold, right, because right right, But he says, 574 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 5: I he pulls off the hat and he says, I'm 575 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 5: not bald, y'all. This is just a Philly thing. Philadelphians 576 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 5: wear hats, so that was a good moment for him. 577 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 2: Actually, wait, all right, so this is a Philadelphia question, 578 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 2: and you know, I grew up with a lot of uncles. 579 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 2: My dad almost went through this phase, and of course, 580 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 2: you know we knew the Sphinx family and all that stuff. 581 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 2: Did you ever go through the urban cowboy phase? 582 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 5: You mean the stables or in the stables over in 583 00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 5: the West Philly, are you talking about, Well, you're talking 584 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 5: about that kind of phase with all the kids were 585 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 5: going well. 586 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,239 Speaker 2: No, no, no, just there was a period in like 587 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 2: seventy six seventy seven in which the entire like all 588 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 2: black men were just dressing up as cowboys. 589 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 3: Tight jeans and a cowboy. Yeah. 590 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 7: It was just. 591 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 4: Now my mother and my family would have been jumping out. 592 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 11: Over Is there anything that you have yet to creatively 593 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 11: achieve or embarkle on that you would like to do 594 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 11: that you haven't done yet. 595 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 3: I'm trying to figure out, like your your other talents 596 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 3: as well. I mean, besides singer, songwriter, producer. 597 00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 4: There's some stages we're gonna go. Yeah, there's some things. 598 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 2: Anytime I've seen you, it's been in the United States. 599 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 2: But has what is his is worldwide? 600 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:16,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, he has the same thing, right, Yeah, everywhere likes 601 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 4: us just like Yeah, he's toured. 602 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:25,320 Speaker 5: Europe in London, Paris, yeah, Japan. 603 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 7: If you've been Africa, you know, been Africa, Yeah. 604 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, we haven't done a bunch of Africa. 605 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 8: South Africa would love y'all like y'all, well, I think 606 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 8: it used to be a jazz fest in Cape Town 607 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 8: and now y'all would I think y'a would kill it 608 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:46,720 Speaker 8: long overdue. 609 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 2: Before you were at I do have one question. I'm 610 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,720 Speaker 2: certain that you're tired of answering this question. 611 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 3: What was your. 612 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 2: Feeling on Beyonce covering before I let go and the 613 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 2: reception that the world gave it. 614 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 4: I was blown away with it. 615 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 5: And what he told me when then when they were approached, 616 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 5: we were approached about Beyonce doing that. He respected her 617 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,399 Speaker 5: and he had a good relationship with Jay Z and 618 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 5: Beyonce and so that he thought it from what our 619 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,320 Speaker 5: discussion was, he thought that she would do it justice 620 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 5: and it would bring forth a whole new generation of 621 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:26,320 Speaker 5: people knowing his music. 622 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,879 Speaker 6: So she didn't play it for you first. They didn't 623 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,800 Speaker 6: ask you for like had the song right now. 624 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 3: They didn't play it well. 625 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 2: You know that's that that song is a mighty mountain 626 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,919 Speaker 2: to climb, so you know, and you know I will 627 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:44,439 Speaker 2: just say that, you know you you have provided us 628 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:50,359 Speaker 2: with such a timeless, beautiful soundtrack that you know will 629 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 2: will never go away, will be here forever. You know, 630 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 2: you're you're, you're the original feel good music. And you 631 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 2: know I want to thank you just for stopping. 632 00:35:58,520 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 3: By and saying hello to us. 633 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 8: Man, thank you for all the years of music and 634 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:04,720 Speaker 8: times and everything. 635 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 6: All my joy, my joy, and I love we felt it. 636 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, I really do appreciate it. You know you're gonna 637 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 4: make me cry. 638 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 6: You're gonna make us cry never stop. 639 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 3: No, but thank you. 640 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 2: Thank you for coming on the show, and thank you 641 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,640 Speaker 2: for taking your flowers and you know, more flowers for 642 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 2: Bill Sherman. Yes, that's all feels there to make sure 643 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:34,760 Speaker 2: that everyone gets flowers. 644 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:36,280 Speaker 3: Frankie, Beverly, ladies. 645 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 6: And gentlemen, the best cousins in the world. 646 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 4: Yes, thank you all. 647 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 2: Right, and on behalf of you know fanticcolo sugar Steve 648 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 2: Nay built this long giant applause, And thank you guys 649 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,399 Speaker 2: so much for coming to visiting us. And we'll see 650 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 2: you on the next go around, of course, Love Supree fine, beautiful. 651 00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:58,799 Speaker 5: Thank you. 652 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:00,760 Speaker 7: This is Sugar Steve. 653 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 10: Thank you for listening to Quest Love Supreme. 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