1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants huddle on Giants 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: dot Com. 3 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 2: We go here, we go on the Giants Mobile. Let 4 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 2: him in there, Let's go. Part of the Giants Podcast Network. 5 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 2: Welcome to another dish of the Giants Little podcast, brought 6 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 2: to you by Citizens, the official bank of the New 7 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 2: York Football Giants. We've had this guy's dad on the 8 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 2: show many times and his brother. We're just going through 9 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 2: the whole Simms family. Really, he is Matt Simms, who's 10 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 2: doing a lot right now with his dad and other stuff. Matt, 11 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 2: tell the folks what's you're up to and what you're doing, 12 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 2: and thanks for being with us. 13 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: We're not doing anything too impressive. But my father and 14 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: I we started a little podcast on YouTube and we 15 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: have our own little YouTube channel and it's called SIMS Complete. Please, 16 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: you know, like subscribe tune into what we're talking to 17 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: talking about this season. It's basically me hosting and then 18 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: my father just talking a lot about football and trying 19 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: to show how much more he knows about the game 20 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: than me, which is a lot. But we're gonna have 21 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: a great time this year talking about football. 22 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 2: Jersey native Don Bosco guy Yes Sir, played at Tennessee, right, 23 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 2: and a bunch of different stops in the NFL. So 24 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 2: this is airing the Monday matt after the third preseason game, 25 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 2: which is the day before Cutdavis. Okay, put me in 26 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 2: the in the shoes as a player that was nervous 27 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 2: around this time of year or anything in the NFL. Right, Yeah, 28 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 2: what what? What the emotions are kind of what players 29 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,199 Speaker 2: are dealing with on like a full day off after 30 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 2: what maybe for some guys could be their last NFL 31 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 2: game and they just don't know what's gonna happen. 32 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's uh, it's a lot, it really is. And 33 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: it's uh, it's you take a pertinent, you know. They 34 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: it's a business, right, But at the same time, it's 35 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: your life, man, it's your life. It's it's the kids 36 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: game that you've been playing since you can remember. And 37 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: it's just it's really surreal, It really is, because you 38 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: try to enjoy the moment as much as you possibly can. 39 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: You know the fact that you get out to run 40 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: out there, you get to play. In my case, when 41 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: I was with the Jets playing against the Giants, playing 42 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: against my father's team, uh, throwing touchdowns against the Giants 43 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: and just crushing your defense, you know. But sorry, but 44 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: I actually did actually play extremely well against the Giants. 45 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: They called me the Giant Killer when I was on 46 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: when I was in the yeah Marty seat, and I 47 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: ever walked into the meeting one day and he's like, Sims, 48 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: you're the Giant Killer. You're the Giant Killer. Hey, when 49 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: we need to beat the Giants, we're playing you babe, 50 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 1: you know. And that's how Marty talked, and I was like, thanks, man, 51 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. But it it's really it's difficult. It's 52 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: difficult to put into words, and you know, the best 53 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: thing that you can do is just try to take 54 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: a moment by moment, try to enjoy the moments, try 55 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 1: to execute as best as you can, and really just 56 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: keep life in the game as simple as possible. And 57 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: I think sometimes when you look forward to the future, 58 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: you try to, oh do I fit here, there or there? 59 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: It's a real thing. You play well, other teams are 60 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 1: watching you, other teams are evaluating you, so you just 61 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: try to put your best foot forward, have fun, cut 62 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: it loose, and and hope at the end of the 63 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: day that you can stick where you're at. And if not, 64 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,119 Speaker 1: you're just hoping that you did enough to get another 65 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: opportunity to another school, another school, another team. 66 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 2: Excuse me, how different is it now? Do you think 67 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 2: you experience four preseason games now there's only three? Does 68 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 2: that hurt. 69 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: Guys at the bottom of the roster Do you think 70 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: it definitely does? I mean that's a whole, you know, 71 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: game where you're just missing opportunities to potentially get reps 72 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: and experience and really just showcase again your skills and assets. 73 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: The one advantage I would say that the newer generations 74 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: have now is that there's enough fans and media at 75 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: practice now with their social media, that they're able to 76 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: document some of these great plays that you are making 77 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: in practice more often than not. And there's been you know, 78 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: some buzz on few other players here early in preseason 79 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: where you do get to see some of those clips 80 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: in practice. So it's a it's a double edged sword. 81 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: There's bonuses and negatives to it. Obviously, health being primarily 82 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: the main thing. Players should statistically stay a little healthier 83 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: with one less game. But at the same time, yeah, 84 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: when you were a young QB like me, yeah, you 85 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: wanted every opportunity you could get a you been. 86 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 2: In practice for two straight days watching the Giants. He's 87 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 2: here doing the serious XM training camp. Stop with you, Yeah, with. 88 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: The Papa man, the you know man talk about just 89 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: like the og. Right, he's a pro. He's a pro. 90 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: And I got to hang out with Paul Tatino today. 91 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: I practiced too, Sorry about that. You know what, Hey, 92 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: Paul and Bob, if you need to know anything historically 93 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: about the Giants, true, those two guys are the guys 94 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: to talk to. But practice was awesome today. It was 95 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: so fun being here. I was teammates with Tyrod in Buffalo, 96 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: so it's great to watch him play and perform. He 97 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: still got it. I mean, that guy is definitely easily 98 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: top five backup in the NFL and really could still 99 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: be a starter in the NFL if given the opportunity. 100 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, it was. It was awesome to be here 101 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: past years and. 102 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 2: You had a chance to talk to a bunch of players, Joe, Shane, 103 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 2: Brian Dables. So just give me a summary three four 104 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 2: five points. Things that you're taking away from your two 105 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 2: days here that maybe you didn't know before you got here. 106 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: How deep the receiver room is, a lot of good 107 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: football players in that receiver room, a lot of talented 108 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: football players that maybe potentially don't make this roster and 109 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: that's unfortunate, but these are guys that are going to 110 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: be playing on Sundays for other football teams. And just 111 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: just really and us too, with the ability that you know, 112 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 1: Joe Shane and his ability to evaluate football players phil 113 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: needs that were missing from a year ago. To upgrade 114 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: the receiver room and the defensive backs the way that 115 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: they did in one season, it's definitely the biggest turnaround 116 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: that I feel like I've seen in the NFL this 117 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: year with those two rooms. Just that the ability that 118 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: they've able to add depth to those two positions on 119 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:26,799 Speaker 1: the field is truly impressive. 120 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 2: Well, let's start with wide receiver then, and yeah, we 121 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 2: mentioned you played at Tennessee the Giants that add Yeah, yeah, 122 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 2: give me give me your Jalen Hyatt analysis. And I 123 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 2: know from my perspective watching him on college tape, I 124 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 2: don't have the chance to talk to the coaches there 125 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 2: and what else he can do. I just go in 126 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,279 Speaker 2: their offense on tape. You know, he was a vertical 127 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 2: wide receiver that never faced press. He got stacked us 128 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 2: in the slot a lot, which is you have to 129 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 2: do more in the NFL, and we haven't seen him 130 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 2: do it. But now that he's here, I think we've 131 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 2: all seen that he can do it. 132 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: Now that I've seen him in practice two times, you know, 133 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: the past two days, dude is you know, he's got 134 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: the frame, he's got the build. Definitely can stretch the 135 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: field vertically. For this Giants offense runs clean, good routes. 136 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: You could see that he's running a lot now with 137 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: the ones more often. Super impressed with his ability. And 138 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: that was something that my father and I discussed on 139 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: our YouTube channel on our show, was everyone was going 140 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: back to that Tennessee offense. Oh, it's not like the NFL. 141 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: It's different, blah blah blah blah. Listen, it doesn't matter. 142 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: The player is talented, he's being coached extremely well by Kafka. 143 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: Now this offense, it's perfect for him. He's going to 144 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: be able to make an impact immediately. And I think 145 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: with him, Hodgens and Waller, now Daniel Jones has those 146 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 1: three really big targets that can almost act like power 147 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: forwards for you, you know in basketball, and I think 148 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:48,799 Speaker 1: in tough matchups, right against the Eagles against the Cowboys, 149 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: you need big bodies like that when even though they're covered, 150 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: you can still give those guys opportunities to catch the football. 151 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: And I think Jalen Highlight just adds another aspect of 152 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: being physical and athletic on the outside for the Giants. 153 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:01,799 Speaker 2: Jump back to the wide receiver room. But you mentioned 154 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 2: Waller and he's basically their number one receiver. He might 155 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 2: not be a wide receiver, right, but they line him 156 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 2: up at the X spot, isolate on the side. They'll 157 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 2: line him up all over the place. The impact a 158 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 2: player like that can have on your offense, not just 159 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 2: because of his physical skills, but what it allows the 160 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 2: coaches to do formationally, Right, you can be in twelve personnel. 161 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 2: Oh wait, but it looks like eleven personnel all of 162 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 2: a sudden. Oh, I mean it looks like twenty personnel. 163 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 2: There's a lot of different things you can do with it. 164 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,679 Speaker 1: I'll give you one even better, like what about thirteen personnel, 165 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: because it's like, get Cagre out there with him. You 166 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: line up in a heavy set with three tight ins. 167 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: Come of the game, all right, expand you know the offense. 168 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: Now you go into a spread set, what are you 169 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: gonna do? You're gonna put a nickel on one of 170 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: these guys, you're gonna put on a safety like so 171 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: it gives it gives Kafka this unbelievable flexibility to be 172 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: able to mix parts and really play that really fun 173 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: chess game with the offensive pieces that they have. Because 174 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: the size right, the speed and the slot all this, 175 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: it's gonna be extremely difficult for defenses to match up 176 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: week in and week out with them. 177 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 2: And if you go small because you want to a 178 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 2: defensive back on the wall, yeah, then you have stacle 179 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 2: one ball. Get to run it right. 180 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: Let's let's not underestimate his run his route running ability 181 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: too right. And I think that's something that will definitely 182 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: be taking advantage even more so because of this ability, 183 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: right and flexibility at other positions this year. 184 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 2: And then even of you throw it and they get 185 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 2: a dB on Waller, that guy is so fricking gigantic. 186 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 2: He I mean, if you put a nickel on him 187 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 2: or even the six one two hundred and seventeen pounds safety, 188 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 2: I mean, he's he's just gonna bully him and use 189 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 2: his length and catch the ball in front of him. 190 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,599 Speaker 1: No doubt, no doubt. And I saw it yesterday. He 191 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: didn't practice today, practiced yesterday. His speed and his ability 192 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: to kind of change direction right and just be that 193 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: great just physical presence over the middle right for this offense. 194 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: It's something that was missing a year ago. Now that 195 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: he's able to do that and bring that component to 196 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: this offense, it's it's really exciting. And that's where you know, 197 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: I get jealous, you know, because as a QB, there's 198 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: just so many ways now to have fun dissecting defenses 199 00:08:58,280 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: when you have this flexibility. 200 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 2: I'm back to the wide receiver room. We talked about Hyatt. Yeah, 201 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 2: they have a bunch of other guys that can play inside. 202 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 2: The cole Beasleys, the Sterling Shepherds. We'll see one one 203 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 2: Bill Robinson gets activated. If he gets activated before theason 204 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 2: will seek. 205 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: I know I forgot completely about him when I was 206 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: watching practice to day, but yeah, another phenomenal player. 207 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 2: You mentioned Hodgens the size. Do you like the complementary 208 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 2: skills in that group? I would like to tell about 209 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 2: a basketball team. Woul wide receiver group took like a 210 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 2: basketball team with the quick guard. Do you want the 211 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 2: bigger power foard types like you mentioned? Yeah? Do you 212 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 2: like the combination of skills that they've kind of put together. 213 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 2: And then Slayton and height with the speed. 214 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: Up you Oh, I definitely do. And it's really exciting 215 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: to to see Sterling Shepherd out there just running healthy, 216 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 1: cutting on a dime. 217 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 2: He looks good too. 218 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: It looked really good in practice today. He looked quick, 219 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: he looked fast. Saw him in that low red zone 220 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: period in practice today too. He was talking a lot 221 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: of trash and rightfully so because he was winning a 222 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: lot of those one on one battles. So that is 223 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: going to be an interesting decision, you know, to be 224 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: made as far as who's going to kind of fit 225 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: that role. But yeah, Crowder today, unbelievable job. I mean, 226 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: and really I think the most impressive thing about the 227 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 1: unit today is not one drop. There's not one. A 228 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: lot of a lot of contested throws, a lot of 229 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: tough throws, a lot of tough catches. Everything was caught 230 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: today and team period, and from a team that had 231 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: you know, far too many drops in the regular season 232 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: a year ago. To see that in practice today versus 233 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: good coverage, very impressive. And yeah, I gotta say this 234 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: receiving room, they really did. They did some work today. 235 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 2: That's for sure, John to The podcast is brought to 236 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 2: you by Citizens, the official bank of the Giants from 237 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 2: game data. Every day, Citizens is made ready for Giants 238 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 2: fans with insights, guidance and solutions. 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Are 243 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:45,959 Speaker 3: you ready for all that life brings? 244 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 2: Of course meant, no of this matters unless the guys 245 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 2: are funken block, right, and that's kind of been a 246 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 2: problem here for a fairly long time. 247 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 248 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 2: So they weren't in pads today, so you can't really 249 00:10:58,040 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 2: see a tumbel protection, but they did do a lot 250 00:10:59,920 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 2: of team stuff in pads on the first day of practice. 251 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 2: Your thoughts on this offensive line? We know about Andrew Thomas. 252 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 2: How do you see the rest of the group coming along, 253 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 2: which has a potentially be pretty young? 254 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the exciting thing is, unlike our counterparts 255 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: over there in Florham Park, the Jets, you got two 256 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: anchors on the outside, right, you know, so when you 257 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: have the tackle position solidified, that's always a great place 258 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: to start. For your offense line. It seems like Schmitzy 259 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: over there in the middle. I like saying it for 260 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: that way for I don't know why, but I take 261 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:33,839 Speaker 1: one that way. But yeah, our boy Schmitzy over there 262 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: from Minnesota is doing a really good job of just 263 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: holding down the middle. And the fact that he's able 264 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: to work against Dexter Lawrence every day in practice. I mean, 265 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: you know, not every team has a guy like Dexter Lawrence. 266 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: Now a few teams actually in our division, you know here, boys, Yeah, 267 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: he's gonna have to deal with some tough matchups, but 268 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: nonetheless he's getting prepared. He's going against wings defense every 269 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:01,719 Speaker 1: day right now, extremely difficult, extremely orthodox at times, and 270 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: I feel like once he gets a little bit more comfortable, 271 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: he'll probably hit that rookie wall at some point. But 272 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: at the same time, I feel like there's enough talent 273 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: at the offensive line position, there's enough creativity in the 274 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: offense right by the play callers, and there's enough athleticism 275 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: in the outside to help balance the two. And it 276 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: doesn't hurt either when Daniel Jones is an unbelievable runner 277 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: of the football too, which is always something that I 278 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: feel like he doesn't get enough credit for the fact 279 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: that he is just a phenomenal athlete. 280 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 2: And we'll get to DJ in the second, but first, 281 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 2: you mentioned in the play calls with Kafkin Dable as 282 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 2: a former quarterback. Yeah, what do you like about this 283 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 2: offense that makes things maybe a little bit easier. 284 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: For a quarterback? 285 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 2: Man? 286 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: It's just I feel like they got tons of answers 287 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: for everything, you know. I feel like they just have 288 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 1: a little of everything that you need. You know, they 289 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: got the screen game, they got the running back screen game, 290 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: and they got the receiver screen game. They got the 291 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: quick short passes, they got the one on one opportunities. 292 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: Then they got the play action passes because sae Quon's 293 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: running the ball extremely well, you know, even Brita being 294 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: the backup and now Gray showing what he can do 295 00:12:58,120 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: that and that's you know, that's a great point to 296 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: because today I was like, Wow, there is a lot 297 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: of pre snap motions here, and those things are extremely 298 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 1: difficult for defenses to really hone in on and kind 299 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:09,839 Speaker 1: of pin their ears back, so to speak, and be 300 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: aggressive because of all that movement and action. That's something 301 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: that helps San Francisco be super effective on offense, and 302 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: that's something that I think the Giants are going to 303 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: continue to look into more as they develop, and I 304 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: think it's going to create tremendous opportunities for even Saquon 305 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: right to motion him in out of the backfield to 306 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: allow him to win one on ones in the slot, 307 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: to go along with the plethora of athletes that we have. 308 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: We so, Daniel, look at me, I'm saying, wee, what 309 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: am I doing? Man? You know, I love it. I'm 310 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 1: part of the team now, all right, So that they blew. 311 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:42,839 Speaker 2: On your blood family absolutely. So you mentioned DJ took 312 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 2: a jump last year. A lot of it was because 313 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 2: it was running ability right, a lot of big first downs, 314 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 2: running the football his third most scramble yards in the league. Besides, 315 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 2: you know, behind the usual suspects that you would expect, 316 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 2: where's the next step for Daniel as a quarterback in 317 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 2: your eyes, for him to maybe try to vault into 318 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 2: that kind of second tier of guys behind the mahomes 319 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 2: Is of the world. 320 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, right now, it's really about just kind 321 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: of getting to those subtle nuances of the offense that 322 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: maybe they couldn't get to a year ago because of 323 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: the fact that maybe some players weren't super trustworthy in 324 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: certain situations or they couldn't rely on certain people to 325 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: win certain matchups right against defenses last year. Now that 326 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: you have more of that, that ability to have tremendous 327 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: athleticism in the outside, Now he is going to have 328 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: an opportunity to be maybe a little bit more aggressive 329 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: throwing the ball vertically down the field. And then you know, 330 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: we've already seen he's done a great job of throwing 331 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: extremely well inaccurate fifteen yards and under. Now that you 332 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: add these athletes to stretch the field, I feel like 333 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: we're going to get to see a few more of 334 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: those those big, you know, game changing plays, right and 335 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: when you're trying to go for a Super Bowl, when 336 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: you can create explosive plays, you know, the more explosive 337 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: plays you have, the more points you're going to score, 338 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: you know. And that was something that we always harped 339 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: on when we were in Atlanta and we made that 340 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: Super Bowl run. If we thought that we got five 341 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: to six explosive plays, you know, a game that we 342 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: had a tremendous advantage of winning the football game and 343 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: at least scoring twenty one points no matter what. And 344 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: that is something that I think that the Giants now 345 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: will be able to take advantage of, and especially Daniel Jones, 346 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: And that's what's really exciting. You're going to be able 347 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: to stress defensive sideline to sideline, but now vertically as well. 348 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: And when you could do those two things, it's extremely 349 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: difficult to stop offenses. 350 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 2: I just noticed it. By the way, is that like 351 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 2: a new retro shirt or is that like your dad's 352 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 2: actual shirt from nineteen eighty six. 353 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: My wife actually picked us up at Amber Cambria and 354 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: Finch the other day, and yeah, she did, and she's like, 355 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: I thought this was cool. You know, that's awesome. I yeah, 356 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: it's awesome, you know. And if there was a symbol 357 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: that epitomized the family, you know, our family crest so 358 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: to speak, the rose would absolutely be part of it 359 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: because obviously that moment in our family's history, you know, 360 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: forever changed, you know, the Sims family, my father's life. Yeah, 361 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: and I like to tell people all that time that 362 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: I was the celebration of him winning the MVP because 363 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: I was born in eighty eight and the Super Bowl 364 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: happened in eighty seven January of eighty seven, so you know, 365 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: I kind of like to think that I was that 366 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: Super Bowl celebration. 367 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 2: Not too bad, Giants. 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Are you ready for all 376 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 3: that life brings? 377 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 2: Two on the defense, quick, Matt, let's do it the front. 378 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 2: Can this group start to approach what they have in 379 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 2: those other three spots in the division? 380 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: Right? 381 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 2: But as you talk about trying to chase Dallas, Chase 382 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 2: Philly hold off Washington, those three teams are stacked up 383 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 2: front on defense. Their fronts have a lot of guys. 384 00:16:57,960 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 2: We know Dexter and Leonard can do what they can. 385 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 2: They got we have two young edge players. Can this 386 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,959 Speaker 2: group start vaulting itself into that kind of category? Now? 387 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, And this was something that me and Paul were 388 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:10,479 Speaker 1: discussing on the sidelines during practice today. The biggest thing 389 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: really is just going to be can can you affect 390 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,199 Speaker 1: the passer and the quarterback as much as possible in 391 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: this division? And it doesn't necessarily have to equate to 392 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: actual sacks, but you know, have to hit the quarterback, 393 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,959 Speaker 1: have to hurry the quarterback in this league and especially 394 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: in this division with Jalen Hurts and Dak Prescott. And 395 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: we don't know yet about Sam Howell exactly what he's 396 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: going to be yet, but so far it looks like 397 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 1: he's going to be a pretty solid NFL quarterback. And 398 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: I think the Commanders are a better team than what 399 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 1: a lot of people might give them credit for. 400 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 2: They're talented, Like defense, it's good. 401 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 1: Absolutely, they got a lot of really good football players. 402 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: I think they're just getting overshadow just because the Dallas, 403 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: Philly and New York market is just a little bit 404 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: more powerful, you know that way. But you know, affecting 405 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: the quarterback is going to be huge. And I asked, 406 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: you know, Paul Outside, I was like, what is the 407 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: over under for Cavon, you know, to have a super 408 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 1: productive year on the edge, you know, he said it 409 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: was nine. I tend to agree with that. I was like, 410 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: if he can get nine and plus. That means that 411 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 1: the Giants defense is affecting the quarterback in the right 412 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 1: way and that's going to lead to some important turnovers 413 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 1: and potential plays that kind of change the outcome of games. 414 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 2: Now, you're basically starting three cornerbacks now in the league, right, 415 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 2: everyone's always a nickel. Sori is one of them, but 416 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 2: the other two are probably gonna be rookies. First round 417 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 2: pick and a six round pick. Trey Hawkins, Deontay Banks. 418 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 2: You know they have traits, right, but there's a difference 419 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 2: between traits and turning those traits into production. In the NFL, 420 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 2: rookie corners are scary. You say it, and people are 421 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 2: like the rooky corners. Give me your perspective on the 422 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 2: Giants potentially going in that direction to start the year. 423 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: Well, I think it's cool because it kind of goes 424 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: back to that basketball analogy you made earlier right where 425 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: I feel like Trey and Deontay and a Dory they 426 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: all kind of have a little bit of a different 427 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: thing that they bring. I feel like Deontay he can 428 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: definitely be more of that big, physical, tough corner right 429 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: that can really get your hands on, be aggressive of 430 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage right, exactly what wink does. I've 431 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: been so impressed with Hawkins in practice these past few days. 432 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: I just cannot believe how well he moves, how well 433 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: he dissects routes. He had two pass back breakups today 434 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: and the team periods that I thought were extremely impressive, 435 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: and it was like he ran the route for the 436 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: receiver and it was just I was just blown away 437 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: by his ability to change direction on a dime and 438 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 1: then to be able to get his eyes back to 439 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: the football while I was mid air and make those 440 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 1: pass breakups. So listen, when you got two young guys 441 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: out there, they're gonna make mistakes. It's part of the game. 442 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: But there's a lot to really be excited about for 443 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 1: these two football players. And I think too, with Xavier 444 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 1: back there kind of orchestrating everything. Sure, you know, I 445 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 1: know people are you know, at times been maybe tough 446 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 1: on him. But I feel like now that he has 447 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 1: that deeper corner room, I expected him to make that 448 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 1: much more plays this year because I think he's a 449 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: phenomenal football player. I think he's a good tackler. I 450 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: think he reads the quarterback extremely well, and I expect 451 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 1: him to make a lot of plays in that secondary 452 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: of this year too. 453 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 2: Wow, you know when Avol is the complimenting Alabama player 454 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 2: that he's probably. 455 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: He complimented Tennessee, you know the other day too in 456 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 1: Jalen High. So I feel like I had to, you know, 457 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: you got to pass the forward, you know, with no 458 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: pun intended, actually all pun intended as a quarterback. 459 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 2: How important is coaching when you are putting two young 460 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 2: corners out like that, not only to kind of teach 461 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 2: them the right way, but maybe you know, keep things 462 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 2: simple within the scheme for them where you're not maybe 463 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 2: asking them to do too much, and you want to 464 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 2: take advantage of the things that they are good at. 465 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: Coaching, for defense, for coaching is everything. It is everything, 466 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: and especially in football too. There's just so much going 467 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 1: on in this game that you have to have guys 468 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: that really just they make the most complicated game in 469 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: the world simplified. And I feel like right now the 470 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: Giants coaching staff is on it. I feel like they 471 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: have a great pulse. You know, of course because of 472 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: Joe Shane and what he's done and how he's been 473 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 1: able to fill the needs by having that direct conversation 474 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: with these coaches and it's an exciting time to be 475 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 1: a Giants fan. It really is. I feel like, you know, 476 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: the Jets and Giants got a lot of really good 477 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: young football players, got a lot of young coaches that 478 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: are hungry, that approve themselves. You also got a few 479 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,880 Speaker 1: older coaches that have seen a thing or two, they 480 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: know a thing or two, and it's it's really exciting. 481 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: It's good times right now for New York football. And 482 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 1: it just you can't underestimate coaching at all. And I know, hey, 483 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: you can speak Daniel Jones, perfect example of it. Dude 484 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: had the talent. Dude had everything that you wanted as 485 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: far as the prototypical quarterback. He's got the side, he's 486 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 1: got the speed, he's got the arm, talent, game of 487 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: great coach, great, great opportunity. Right he improved dramatically in 488 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: one season. Now put athletes surrounding him, and we'll see 489 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 1: what happens. But I think all signs are pointing to this, 490 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: this upward trajectory for the Giants right now. 491 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, you mentioned it. The Giants and Jets better were 492 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 2: early because the baseball teams, including the one on your 493 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 2: hat right there, who I also root for by the 494 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 2: way it is, it is gonna be a depressing baseball 495 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 2: September here in New York City. You have five minutes 496 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 2: ago arond the league for. 497 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: A second before let's aw, let's do it. 498 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 2: NFC East, how much have the Giants you think closed 499 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 2: the gap with Dallas and Philly. 500 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: I think they've closed it tremendously. But at the same time, too, 501 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: I still would give the edge to uh, the Eagles 502 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 1: being number one in the division as far as talent 503 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: wise go. And then I would say that the Giants 504 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 1: are definitely closer to Dallas that much more. I actually 505 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: might even give them a slight edge over Dallas, hopesly 506 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 1: in some aspects of it because uh, you know, and 507 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 1: maybe I'm biased just because I was watching practice today 508 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: and also maybe because I just was never ever a 509 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: Dallas fan ever in my life and never will be. 510 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 1: You grew up with Yeah, so that's why it's like 511 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 1: hard for me to admit that maybe Dallas is more, 512 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 1: you know, a better roster, but definitely close the gap 513 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: and the NFC. 514 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 2: Uh, it's wide open. 515 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 1: It's wide open. And really right now, the main thing 516 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: is just just get into the dance. And when you 517 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: get into the dance, anything can happen. And I think 518 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: that's really the main thing for that for the Giants 519 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: this year is just get into the dance and you 520 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: can win some of these matchups for some other teams. 521 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 2: You know, it's a shame you put the Giants in 522 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 2: the NFC South of the NFC North. A teen boy, 523 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 2: come on, if the Giants are in the NFC North 524 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 2: or NFC South, we're probably pick named as potential division winner. 525 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 2: It's just in the NFC East. 526 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: It's so hard and it's cool too because it's kind of, uh, 527 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 1: it reminds me a little bit of just like my. 528 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 2: Dad's era, you know, with the Hogs and everything. 529 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: Just for everything, you know, the Eagles being just unbelievably 530 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: talented with Jerome Brown and Reggie White right now, and 531 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 1: now you know, of course you had the Hogs right 532 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: and in the Washington at the time Redskins. It's just, uh, 533 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: it's really cool. It's it's kind of going back, I 534 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: feel like, to that golden age of this division. 535 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 2: And it's it is not the NFC least anymore. 536 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: No, it is definitely definitely not and it's gonna be 537 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,360 Speaker 1: some great matchups. It really will be and and that's 538 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: where we'll see what happens. And listen, everybody's been watching 539 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: the Eagles all off season, you know, seeing what they do, 540 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: seeing the matchups. They got two new coordinators offense and defense, 541 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 1: so they have some question marks too. Even though they 542 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: have the great talent, you still got to make you know, 543 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 1: that chemistry work from the coaching staff to your players. 544 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, it's possible that they could have 545 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 1: a little bit of a learning curve with those two 546 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 1: new coaches in place. 547 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 2: We've had your brother on I know the Simms family 548 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 2: is not immune to hot takes. So give me, give 549 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 2: me your give me your either surprise NFL team in 550 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 2: a good way or a bad way. 551 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: Who do you think? 552 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 2: Who you watching? You think? You know people are downplaying 553 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 2: this team too much. And who's one team where you're like, yeah, 554 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 2: they're not as good as people are saying they are. 555 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: I get kind of nervous sometimes with how much people 556 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 1: are kind of buying into the Lions, just because it's 557 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 1: so so random to kind of say that, yeah it 558 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: is the Lions, the Lions, the Lions. But I do 559 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 1: I do root for them, I really do, because I 560 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: think coach Campbell is just one of those guys. It's 561 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: hard not to like him absolute how authentic he is 562 00:24:59,400 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: as a person. 563 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 2: And they're offensive coordinators health coach. 564 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,199 Speaker 1: Oh dude, he is. He is awesome, He really is. 565 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: I would say he's probably top five offensive coordinators in 566 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: the league. 567 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 2: He will be a head coach next year. 568 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,360 Speaker 1: It's gonna be up there. It's gonna be up there. 569 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: But you know, hot takes for this season, hmm. 570 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 2: You have a sleeper team and either. 571 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: Of the sleeper team, you know, the sleeper team that 572 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: I actually kind of like. And I was talking to 573 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: my father about this the other day and tune into 574 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 1: our YouTube channel during the season. We think that the 575 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons are going to be a surprise team in 576 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 1: the NFC South. We really do. We and the reason 577 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: why I lost a lot of close games a year ago. 578 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 2: Yep. 579 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: I think they're a tough football team. I think Bejon 580 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: Robinson is like legit and scary, you know, And even 581 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: though we haven't seen him much in preseason, you only 582 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 1: need to see a carry or two and you're kind 583 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: of like, WHOA, Just like when you saw Saquan for 584 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 1: the first time in NFL uniform, You're just like, WHOA, 585 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: This dude is different. He's built different. He runs just 586 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 1: fast and angry, and Smith will know how to use it, 587 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: no doubt. And Arthur Smith, it just loves being tough 588 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 1: and physical and just you know, old school football. And 589 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: I feel like the Falcons could kind of fit that 590 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: mold of being a sleeper team that no one's talking about, 591 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: that that could sneak into the to the playoffs. 592 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 2: Who's the biggest challenge to Mahomes and the Chiefs in 593 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 2: the AFC hmm and to someone finally knock them out 594 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 2: this year? 595 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: You know, with a healthy Joe Burrow. I would say 596 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 1: the Bengals. But the Joe Burrow injury does concern me, 597 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 1: especially it being his right leg and his right calf too, 598 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 1: because that is technically the foot that you are pushing 599 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: up and kind of driving off all the time, whether 600 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: it's the run, moving up in the pocket. So it's 601 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 1: I would say it's the Bengals with a healthy Joe Burrow, 602 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: but I don't know what it is either. I'm not 603 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: buying the Bills right now at all at all. I 604 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: think the Bills will be a good football team. I 605 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: think they'll be productive. I think the offense and Ken 606 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: Dorsey will be improved than it was a year ago. 607 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 2: I think Dalton Kinkaid is going to have a month. 608 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: Dalton Kincaid is going to be a dog, I think, 609 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: And I know they know how to use the tight 610 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 1: end position extremely well up there, but I still feel 611 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: like that's a team that, like is stagnant. I don't 612 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 1: think that they're moving in the right direction as far 613 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: as just you know, being able to be physical at 614 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: the defensive line. You know they're front seven. I just 615 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: feel like there's something missing there right now. So I 616 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 1: feel like the Bills might be that team. As the 617 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 1: hot take of not living up to expectations. 618 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 2: Matt, this is great, dude. I appreciate it. 619 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,199 Speaker 1: Thank thank you pretty much. Yeah, thank you. 620 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 2: Tell the folks little more time about the YouTube channel. 621 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, so sim's complete YouTube channel. Me and Big Effort, 622 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 1: Big Phil and uh, you know, we'll be talking ball. 623 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: We're not gonna go off of what everyone else is 624 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 1: saying on TV. We're just gonna talk about things that 625 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: we think are interesting and fun and of course always 626 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: discuss quarterback play and uh, you know, hey, whenever you 627 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: get father and son duo on the same show, there's 628 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: bound to be some fireworks because I think he's crazy sometimes. 629 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: He knows that I'm crazy most of the time. 630 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 2: And I'm sure you guys are just nice to use 631 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 2: for the whole time, right. You don't guys give each 632 00:27:59,080 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 2: other nonsense. 633 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: We have more good in this sense long enough to 634 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: really hate each other yet. But I'm sure that that 635 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: father's son, you know, blood will eventually pour out into 636 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:09,160 Speaker 1: the show. 637 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 2: So this is Sims number three on the show. Do 638 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 2: you have any other Sims family members you can recommend 639 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 2: to be a guest on. 640 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: The I'm gonna bring my son, Mateo. He just turned two. 641 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: Maybe he'll come over here and do uh, you know, 642 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 1: the NFL Latin channel, because my my son is my 643 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 1: wife is is Colombian and uh, you know, we're we're 644 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 1: trying to to go to you know, Latin America, just 645 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,959 Speaker 1: just like the NFL Isco trying to go to Mexico, 646 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,479 Speaker 1: trying to go to Columbia. We're trying. Yeah, so Mateo 647 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 1: is going to be a great ambassador for the game 648 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: of football, uh you know, below the border. So it'll 649 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: be pretty cool. Yeah. 650 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 2: Thanks that Sims on the Giant Subtle Podcast, brought to 651 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 2: you by citizens, the official bank of the Giants. Guys, 652 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 2: only about wee can change or just under two weeks. 653 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 2: Wait for the start of the season. Can't wait. We'll 654 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 2: see you next time.