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Speaker 4: this morning, the NBA man always comes through. We got

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Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, I think the only thing you didn't

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Speaker 4: Ben Simmons plays weird game, though, very weird game. You know,

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and try to mention it there was all It

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Speaker 7: And he took over this guy as he should have too,

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Speaker 7: You know, this game almost went to double overtime. But

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Speaker 4: But yeah, Danny Green.

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Speaker 7: I just wonder if we don't play fantasy basketball anymore

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Speaker 4: He can't do that.

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Speaker 7: But Doc Rivers said, he's a thousand years old and

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Speaker 7: he played fifty minutes for us last night. And that's

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Speaker 7: But yeah, this is a fun watchback game here. Tyler Hero. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: He was rough.

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Speaker 7: How old is Tyler Hero. He's nineteen or twenty or

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Speaker 7: But seriously, like, like, how good can Tyler Hero be?

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Speaker 7: I mean, he's going to be a superstar I think

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Speaker 7: and you know, the heat's so heavily shorthanded, he stepped

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Speaker 6: But uh, I don't know, man, this was just things

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Speaker 4: The good stuff, A lot of fun, lot of fun.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, that's third quarter. He didn't miss a shot

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and thirteen for thirteen at the free throw line

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Speaker 6: What do you think of Duncan Robinson's missed free throw?

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Speaker 4: Maybe Well, you said it's the loneliest place in the world,

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Speaker 4: so now it's even more lonely, like actually there's less

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Speaker 4: Lebron there. Let's get to him because Lebron leads the

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Speaker 4: The score says one to seventeen, one hundred. I mean

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Speaker 4: you can roll it if you want. Lebron James hit

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Speaker 4: that clip is awesome. I know, Trey, you were saying, like,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the story makes it even funnier. So what's going

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Speaker 4: you can't hit that three. So Lebron swivels meets you know,

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Speaker 4: What do you think of the close?

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Speaker 7: when you see those little things out there because basically

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Speaker 7: what Lebron's doing. That's like flipping the water bottle. Remember

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Speaker 2: But I believe it because you see Lebron.

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Speaker 6: Pump fake when he gets so you're like somebody said

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Speaker 7: Remember remember last week when Fred van Vliet had a

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Speaker 7: But you know these that's that's what it is, like

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Speaker 7: You're on in that second, in that moment. Then Lebron

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Speaker 4: CNN wrote an oracle exactly like that's that's just hilarious

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Speaker 7: And then Lebron just struts back down the court. And

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Speaker 7: I don't think Steph's ever had a bet though, while

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Speaker 4: five percent of the game. Still drop twenty five, eight

431
00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,040
Speaker 4: and eight on your head, give you a few highlights

432
00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,040
Speaker 4: to throw up on the old house and lead the

433
00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:43,120
Speaker 4: Lakers to the number one seed. That's what is his narrative,

434
00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,560
Speaker 4: is like, I don't need to try and I'm still

435
00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,240
Speaker 4: gonna be putting up these numbers, having a successful team

436
00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,120
Speaker 4: and having fun at it and giving you all these highlights.

437
00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,560
Speaker 4: That's what he's like. That's his narrative right now. Of course,

438
00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:56,520
Speaker 4: like baked into that is like, oh yeah, I'm also

439
00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:57,880
Speaker 4: near eighteen and I'm doing this.

440
00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,520
Speaker 7: Yeah. Well, and that's the thing about it going out

441
00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,880
Speaker 7: only three quarter pace and they're nine to three right now.

442
00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,119
Speaker 7: So if they do decide to turn it on, and

443
00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,520
Speaker 7: if Lebron decides, you know what, why not Because you

444
00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:09,840
Speaker 7: guys mentioned Joel EMBII, he's one of the front runners

445
00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,320
Speaker 7: right now. I think Lebron's ahead of him just simply

446
00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,680
Speaker 7: because again, the Lakers will have a better record and

447
00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,359
Speaker 7: Lebron is just doing it so easily in this season,

448
00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,879
Speaker 7: So it's kind of it is kind of open, but

449
00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,000
Speaker 7: I mean, you know, things like the record and just

450
00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,760
Speaker 7: how Lebron is playing, it's going to be hard to

451
00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:27,880
Speaker 7: keep him off the off the top there, I think,

452
00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,520
Speaker 7: so fascinating season. I mean, if he can do this

453
00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:35,320
Speaker 7: in year eighteen, after what everything he's done and everything

454
00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,520
Speaker 7: he's gone through, is just going to be incredible. But

455
00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,159
Speaker 7: right now, I mean I wouldn't bet against it. I

456
00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,760
Speaker 7: wouldn't bet. I think he's probably in. He's probably as

457
00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:44,359
Speaker 7: good as chance as anybody else is.

458
00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:46,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, right now, I mean ten to eleven games in,

459
00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,960
Speaker 4: I think most people would have him top three. But

460
00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:53,880
Speaker 4: he's like, again, he's almost helped by his like nonchalantness

461
00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,359
Speaker 4: of it all, like he's had that's actually a plus

462
00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:57,119
Speaker 4: for him.

463
00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:59,440
Speaker 7: He's like, all right, I don't want it this year.

464
00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,040
Speaker 7: I don't want the If they pay, don't give it

465
00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:01,320
Speaker 7: to me.

466
00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:02,680
Speaker 4: Don't get it to me. I don't want it. No,

467
00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,960
Speaker 4: I don't want it. I don't want I'm not even trying.

468
00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:06,800
Speaker 4: You would be a disgrace to get it to me,

469
00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,000
Speaker 4: So don't get it to me. I'm barely trying it there.

470
00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,520
Speaker 4: So let's get to what happened after the game, and

471
00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:15,080
Speaker 4: that is James Harden quote saying only you only answer

472
00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:16,800
Speaker 4: two questions, and he got up and left. He had

473
00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,159
Speaker 4: a brutal game. And we'll get to that, but he

474
00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,760
Speaker 4: said postgame, we're just not good enough talking about the Rockets.

475
00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,399
Speaker 4: I love this city. I literally have done everything that

476
00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,920
Speaker 4: I can. I mean, this situation is crazy. It's something

477
00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:30,399
Speaker 4: that I don't think can be fixed. I mean, that's

478
00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,000
Speaker 4: as close as possible, I think, Trey as you can

479
00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:37,600
Speaker 4: get to saying trade me already. Like I asked before

480
00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:41,040
Speaker 4: the season started, you didn't. We're still here. You've seen

481
00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,280
Speaker 4: how I'm playing, You see how the team is getting killed.

482
00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:45,000
Speaker 4: What are we doing here?

483
00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:45,520
Speaker 2: Is that?

484
00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,359
Speaker 4: That's what That's what I'm reading into it. That's what

485
00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:48,960
Speaker 4: most people, of course are What do you think?

486
00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,560
Speaker 6: Well, this is the closest to a trade request that

487
00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 6: James Harden has made publicly, right, He's basically.

488
00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,600
Speaker 2: Saying, hey, I've done everything. I've done everything I can.

489
00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:00,840
Speaker 2: I mean, baby, that being.

490
00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,240
Speaker 6: Said, at least, he's finally saying the quiet part out

491
00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,000
Speaker 6: loud right now that he's been wanting out since the

492
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,480
Speaker 6: all since the fall. I guess he's been wanting out

493
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:13,600
Speaker 6: in Obviously, the Rockets have not acquiesced to his wishes.

494
00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,520
Speaker 6: And I know, I mean, this cannot help the trade value,

495
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,520
Speaker 6: cannot help the packages that the Rockets are going to

496
00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,760
Speaker 6: get no back, but it's definitely putting pressure on them

497
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,320
Speaker 6: to make a move, especially once John Wall then comes

498
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 6: to the podium and basically says, this guy's not on

499
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,240
Speaker 6: the same page as us, and obviously we're gonna be

500
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 6: bad until everybody gets on the same page. Doesn't feel

501
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:32,760
Speaker 6: like James Harden wants to get on the same page.

502
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:33,719
Speaker 2: So I don't know.

503
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,440
Speaker 6: It feels like it's a matter of time. It's felt

504
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,520
Speaker 6: like it's a matter of time since October they still

505
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,760
Speaker 6: haven't made a move, probably because the offers aren't good

506
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,440
Speaker 6: and James Harden isn't doing anything to help the offers.

507
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 6: He's making the offers worse time after time after time.

508
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,679
Speaker 6: But I mean, this could turn even worse for the Rockets.

509
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,880
Speaker 6: They looked terrible last night. They looked like a joke, honestly,

510
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 6: and they were lucky to be within seventeen points at

511
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:55,400
Speaker 6: the end of the game.

512
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:56,399
Speaker 2: So I don't know.

513
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 6: There was some hope after the first game that John

514
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:00,719
Speaker 6: Wall and James Harden played together. I think they combined

515
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,480
Speaker 6: for fifty five points and seventeen assists.

516
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 2: They look great.

517
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,360
Speaker 6: Christian Wood was dunking all over the place. They were

518
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:09,679
Speaker 6: sweating like crazy. But James Harden's saying, nah, no, not

519
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 6: for me, John Wall Maybe he's good, but not for me.

520
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,160
Speaker 6: I'd rather go somewhere else, So get him out of there.

521
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, Harden had remained pretty quiet here through a couple

522
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,560
Speaker 4: of months of all this speculation. He hadn't said a

523
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 4: whole lot. But now he is, and he was saying

524
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,920
Speaker 4: it both in his play on the floor and now

525
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,200
Speaker 4: it's leading into these postgame press conferences. They're not even

526
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 4: forget the same page. Harden's done with that book. He's

527
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,480
Speaker 4: not even picking it up. He already threw it out.

528
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,400
Speaker 4: He gave it away to the library or something like that.

529
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 4: He is moving on. I think the Rockets lee have

530
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 4: to do one of two things. Trade is ass right now,

531
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 4: so there we know there's a package out there from

532
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 4: you know, it sounds like there's still five or six

533
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,399
Speaker 4: teams that would like James Harden. Now, maybe it's not

534
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,439
Speaker 4: as amazing as it once could have been. The Rockets

535
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 4: still insist on obviously getting like a young franchise cornerstone,

536
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 4: a package of first round picks or other intriguing young talent.

537
00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 4: Of course they want that. You're trading a really good player,

538
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:04,639
Speaker 4: but you either trade him right now, you know, for

539
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,679
Speaker 4: seventy five cents on the dollar or whatever it is,

540
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 4: sixty cents, or you bench them. And I know, I

541
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 4: know Zilla wrote about this morning. I was thinking it

542
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,479
Speaker 4: last night. At a certain point, it's destructive right for

543
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 4: this guy to even be, you know, playing with your team.

544
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 4: You're still trying to win games, for crying out loud.

545
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 4: If he's going to play like this, if he's going

546
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 4: to just bring this attitude, then then sitter his ass

547
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 4: while you try and shop them, because I don't think

548
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 4: he's actively hurting them right now, That's what I'm getting at,

549
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 4: I think, and he's actively hurting his trade value totally, Bilgang.

550
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 4: So maybe their best bet is if they don't want

551
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,080
Speaker 4: to trade him today or today or whatever, well then

552
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 4: sit them. Well, I don't know what do you think

553
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 4: about that?

554
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, because I think you're right because he's hurting his

555
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,719
Speaker 7: trade Valley, because he looks terribly out of shape. That

556
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 7: was going around on Twitter last night. Our friend Roe

557
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 7: Parish made a little gag about him before the game,

558
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,200
Speaker 7: saying he's had his pregame meal. And again, you don't

559
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 7: want to, you know, pick on a guy who does

560
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 7: carry a little bit extra beef. He's a bigger guy,

561
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 7: but he looks like he's just not even in game

562
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 7: shape right now. That is not a good sign or

563
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,640
Speaker 7: whoever's trying to trade for him, because it's like he's

564
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,679
Speaker 7: going to have to get himself back into condition. But

565
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 7: he is basically sticking his finger up to the Houston

566
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 7: Rockets organization as well, which I think is really really

567
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 7: unclassy by him, because but the last day is they've

568
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 7: given him absolutely everything he wanted. You know, They've given

569
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 7: him all the money, They've designed an offense to suit

570
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,679
Speaker 7: his game perfectly, They've brought in coaches that he wants,

571
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 7: they've stayed over in cities. We heard from Tim McMahon

572
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 7: a few weeks ago and a report saying basically he

573
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 7: had the free reign of the franchise. And now he's saying,

574
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 7: I've done everything I can, and I just don't agree

575
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,439
Speaker 7: with that. I think that's completely the opposite. I think

576
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 7: he's been disrespectful to them. And it's one thing to

577
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 7: be disrespectful in what you say, but it's another thing

578
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 7: to sort of do it in your body language. And

579
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 7: I think right now he's basically saying I'm not even

580
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 7: going to get into the sort of condition I need

581
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 7: to get into, and then when I'm out on the court,

582
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 7: I'm not even going to play to the standard that

583
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 7: we all know he can play to. So I absolutely

584
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,400
Speaker 7: do think if you're the Rockets right now, you just say,

585
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 7: you know what, don't play anymore, then we're going to

586
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 7: sit you down. We're going to try to find your trade.

587
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 7: But unless you are going to go out there and

588
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 7: really give us everything, then we don't want you on

589
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 7: the court at all, because it's just hurting us and

590
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 7: we want to move forward with the players that we have.

591
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 7: So I think he's been very unprofessional in the way

592
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 7: that he's handled this. Considering we know, as you say

593
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 7: before the season, that there would be an enormous trade

594
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 7: package for him. I think right now a few teams

595
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,919
Speaker 7: maybe just sort of having a little second here to

596
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 7: pause and think, you know, what sort of James Harden

597
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 7: are we going to get?

598
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 4: Is he going to be?

599
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 7: Because he has to go to a contender. If you're

600
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 7: going to get the best James Harden. If the Rockets

601
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 7: find a better package for a team that maybe he

602
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 7: doesn't want to go to, then I think that team's

603
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 7: probably going to be reluctant in the end to cough

604
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 7: up too many young assets because it's like he's not

605
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 7: going to stick around, you know. So it's basically like

606
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 7: James Harden sort of holding them at hostage a little

607
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 7: bit as well.

608
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 4: It's like trade me to.

609
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,880
Speaker 7: A contender or else that other team. Those other teams

610
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 7: are probably going to start pulling their offers a little

611
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 7: bit earlier. So yeah, this is a bad look for

612
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 7: him for a superstar player. It's a bad look for

613
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 7: a team that I believe a franchise has given what

614
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 7: star players want. You know, He's They've traded and signed

615
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 7: Hall of Fame players to try to help his game,

616
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 7: and each one of those three players has left and

617
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 7: kind of been like, you know, storming out of there,

618
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 7: like I'm not playing with that guy, you know. And

619
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 7: even now they've still got another player, John wall I wouldn't,

620
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 7: you know. He's not a Hall of Famer. He probably

621
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 7: was if he wasn't if he didn't lose a couple

622
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 7: of years to injury. But still he's a star player

623
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 7: and he's been playing well, he's been trying hard. So

624
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 7: I think this is bad look for James Harden. I

625
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 7: think the quicker. The Rockets can move on from it.

626
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 7: They'll be better off, and so will Harden.

627
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I agree with that. This is a bad

628
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 4: look for what he's doing here. This is not a

629
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 4: leader by any means. He's totally checked out. He's given up.

630
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,439
Speaker 4: I will say, though, the Rockets made this bad. They

631
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 4: made this mess because you said it. Lee. For eight years,

632
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 4: all we heard was they bent over backwards to every

633
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 4: hardened you know, the request. Anything he wanted they did. Well,

634
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 4: now he wants to be treated and they're not doing it.

635
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 4: That's like you with Sebastian, you know, giving them everything

636
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 4: he wants, everything he asked for you by every piece

637
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 4: of lego, You buy everything. Whatever he wants to go,

638
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,360
Speaker 4: you do. And then in the last thing he said,

639
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 4: oh I want to go to this basketball camp. You

640
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 4: say no, don't like what do you mean? No? You

641
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 4: don't ever see no to me, I'm gonna tell them

642
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 4: this is what they did. They need this mess, they

643
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 4: really did.

644
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Speaker 7: Don't Lego shame me on this show. Please. We do

645
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 7: have far too much lego. That's true, that that really

646
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 7: is true. I'll admit that. But that's right. I mean,

647
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 7: you know, start we always hear. It's a star driven league.

648
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 7: Teams and franchises absolutely do whatever they can to convince

649
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 7: these star players not only to come, but then to

650
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,239
Speaker 7: stay and to sign extent sign extensions. And we know

651
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 7: that the Rockets reportedly off at Harden and even further

652
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 7: two years, one hundred million dollar contract, which he turned down,

653
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,919
Speaker 7: so once again they were prepared to just give him

654
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 7: as much money as they possibly could. They've shown they

655
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 7: can get star players around him. But he's still like, well,

656
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 7: I've done everything i can and I'm out. So yeah,

657
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 7: I mean, the Rockets, certainly they have to take some blame,

658
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,719
Speaker 7: but what they did is what franchises do. I mean,

659
00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 7: look at what Lebron did in Cleveland. You know again,

660
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 7: you you do whatever you can to get that guy

661
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 7: to to convince him to stay, because that's what the

662
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 7: NBA is about. It's a star driven league. You want

663
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 7: the stars not only because of the performance on the court,

664
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Speaker 7: but of course of the money they bring into the

665
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 7: franchises as well. So you know that the Rockets did

666
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Speaker 7: what several other franchises would have done in that same situation,

667
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 7: and now it has come to bite them in the

668
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 7: butt a little bit. But still Harden. I believe he

669
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 7: needs to take far more ownership of his own performance

670
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 7: and his own self pride right now, because it looks

671
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 7: like he's just saying, I don't care, but you're getting

672
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 7: paid forty seven million dollars or something this year. Come on, man,

673
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 7: you got you got to at least put in on

674
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 7: the court.

675
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Speaker 4: Yeah. Over his last five games, Harden James Harden is

676
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,959
Speaker 4: averaging seventeen point eight points per game, shooting under forty percent,

677
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 4: barely going to the line. Well, so you know, you know,

678
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 4: he's not trying when the Arden is not getting to

679
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 4: the free throw line. And I saw Mark Stain writing

680
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 4: about it, like, is that a byproduct of the team's

681
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 4: overall struggles? Is it his desire to leave? I think so?

682
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 4: Or is it the suboptimal like conditioning, you know, factors

683
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 4: that you know, he does appear out of out of shape,

684
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 4: and obviously compound that with not giving a damn and

685
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 4: just wanting out of there and sort of pouting. I mean, yeah,

686
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 4: you're you're only going to get about eighteen points per

687
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 4: game from hard to now Tray, And I still believe

688
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 4: Harden gets traded to the right team, you know, a contender. Oh,

689
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 4: I think Harden goes right back to thirty five points

690
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 4: per game. I do. I believe that we could be

691
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 4: right on trade.

692
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Speaker 6: But Skeets, I mean, this is the most out I've

693
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 6: ever been on James Harden, at least since he went

694
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Speaker 6: to the Rockets. But I would still be thrilled if

695
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 6: the Bulls somehow work to trade for him. If he

696
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 6: comes to my team, I'm expecting him to be at

697
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 6: the top of the leaderboards and scoring again. It's very weird, though,

698
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 6: because coming into the season, the Rockets allegedly said we're

699
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 6: willing to get uncomfortable, and I thought, what's that mean

700
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 6: for James Harden.

701
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 2: What's he gonna do?

702
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 6: Just shoot the ball every time and not play defense,

703
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,239
Speaker 6: And that's what he does regardless. Apparently the answer is

704
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 6: not shoot the ball. It's the go to the hoop,

705
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 6: which I guess it does make sense. If you're known

706
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 6: for scoring, the one thing you can take away is scoring.

707
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 2: But I don't know.

708
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 6: The longer he pouts his way out of huge sin,

709
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 6: the harder it's gonna be able to convince yourself that

710
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 6: he's going to turn it around whenever he gets where

711
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 6: he is, because it's still going to be in the

712
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 6: middle of the season, He's still going to be at

713
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 6: least looking out of shape. I kind of feel like

714
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 6: James Harden can probably still play ball out of shape

715
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 6: at least for a season, and then maybe it's the

716
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 6: next year when he comes back and kind of re

717
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 6: establishes himself at the top of the NBA with regards

718
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 6: to MVP conversations and things like that. But this year

719
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 6: at the very least, feels like a wash.

720
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Speaker 2: For James Harden.

721
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Speaker 4: What's going on with these photos videos of James Harden

722
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Speaker 4: and warm up where he does look gigantic? Is he

723
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 4: wearing ten shirts underneath his warm up? Because then the

724
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 4: game starts and he doesn't look like that and not

725
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 4: as big.

726
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 6: He's always tucking in too. I mean, he's always tucking in.

727
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 6: So maybe it's very similar with me and my tucked

728
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 6: in T shirts and my car hearts and my boxers.

729
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Speaker 2: There's a lot of fabric around.

730
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Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a lot of fabric, but the pregame photos

731
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Speaker 6: not flattering. No.

732
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Speaker 4: But I saw someone point out too, and JD, I

733
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 4: know you always you get upset about this too. NBA TV,

734
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Speaker 4: where a lot of these are usually coming from, they

735
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 4: do that like sixteen to nine, sort of squeezing, it's stretching,

736
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 4: it's stretching everybody to make them a little bit bigger.

737
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Speaker 4: I think that's having an effect here.

738
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Speaker 5: Oh at fifteen pounds minimum. Already in a normal screen,

739
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 5: you're you're that's ten pounds, and then you do this

740
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 5: fat boy thing. They literally call it fat boying where

741
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 5: they for the tip, for the ticker, that's another ten pounds. Yeah,

742
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 5: five ten pounds right there, So that's fifteen pounds, and

743
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 5: maybe he is a We're all have a little bit

744
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 5: of extra weight on us these trying times. So yeah,

745
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 5: roe take it easy, man, what I'm saying.

746
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 4: It was a pretty funny line. But that pregame meal

747
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 4: it's pretty good. It's pretty good. So yeah, I mean,

748
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 4: look again, I think they trade them this weekend or

749
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 4: I think you gotta sit them down. I can't imagine

750
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 4: Harding playing with these guys here, especially like you said,

751
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 4: with John Wall his comments, he's being pretty damn candid, like, no,

752
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 4: the guy doesn't want to be here and we can't

753
00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 4: play like this. That's a toxic, toxic locker room or

754
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 4: you know, a product of course on the floor you

755
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 4: just get I mean basketball's You gotta vibe with each other,

756
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 4: you gotta have each other's back, and he just doesn't care.

757
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 4: So sit him down or trade them. And I still

758
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 4: think that deal is gonna happen. I think it's either

759
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 4: gonna be the six Ers of the Nets. I do

760
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 4: believe that. I think the Rockets would be content with

761
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 4: a Simmons led Sixers package or a Krislovert led Nets package.

762
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 4: I do, and then of course with other pieces to

763
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 4: make the money work and picks. People think that's too

764
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 4: much now you know, I'm tweeting that out last night.

765
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 4: People are like, there's no way they're getting picks back

766
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 4: for James Harden. What I mean? Maybe, I mean, is

767
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 4: he tanked his value that much trade?

768
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 6: I don't think so. I don't think so. But I mean,

769
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 6: every every minute that he's not traded, you.

770
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 2: Have to imagine the offers are going down.

771
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Speaker 6: I will say curious timing that Ben Simmons had a

772
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 6: really detached game for the Sixers last night on the

773
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 6: same night that James Harden it finally came out with

774
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 6: his trade request. Perhaps something is in the mix. Only

775
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 6: time will tell. But if you're on the Rockets, you

776
00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 6: gotta at least be pretty happy with how things have

777
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 6: turned out with John wall He's looked all right on

778
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 6: the court, and he seems to be a little bit

779
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 6: of a leader here calling out the face of the

780
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 6: franchise and John's harden saying, this guy's not in on

781
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 6: our team obviously, John wall is. I don't know if

782
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 6: he's a building block piece, but he looks probably.

783
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 2: It looks like.

784
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 6: They've won this trade with the Wizards for Russell Westbrook

785
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 6: at the very least, and it looks like he's at

786
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 6: least going to be a good player, a solid starting

787
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 6: point guard, and you know, maybe he gets back to

788
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 6: the all star level. He's still only playing in his

789
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 6: first month after being out of the league for two

790
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 6: years basically, so he's looking a little bit like a leader.

791
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 6: He's looking like a guy who can at least be

792
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 6: competitive there in the Western Conference with the Rockets. So

793
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 6: maybe they're able to add a Simmons or a Avert

794
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 6: and then what other supplementary pieces come as well, and

795
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 6: you're rebuild is at least a little bit on track.

796
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think what's happened here again with those two

797
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 4: teams that I focus on the six of the nets,

798
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 4: I think like some pieces have been taken off the table, right.

799
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 4: I think if I'm the Nets, I'm taking Jared Allen

800
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 4: out of the mix and I'm saying, sorry, we are

801
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 4: not trading him. So then what is it? Is it

802
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 4: a Laverty and Prince and then maybe a pick or

803
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 4: two or maybe not even pick some people are trying

804
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 4: to tell me. And then with the with the Sixers.

805
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 4: You know, I floated around the idea on Twitter last night.

806
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,240
Speaker 4: You know, it's Ben Simmons leading it, It's probably Mike Scott,

807
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 4: and then it's probably like a Matist Bible or a

808
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 4: Tyrese Maxi. Well everyone's like, well they're not trading Tyrese Maxiy. Okay,

809
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 4: well he's probably taken off the board here now, and

810
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 4: how many picks are coming back? So yeah, I still

811
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 4: think the deal is there to be made. It's probably

812
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 4: just has got a little worse and the Rockets maybe

813
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 4: they should have done something a little a little earlier

814
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,919
Speaker 4: when Harden was saying I do not want to be here,

815
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 4: trade me, and they thought, nah, you know, we can

816
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 4: put the toothpaste back in the tube ninety nine times

817
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 4: out of one hundred. You can't do that in the

818
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 4: NBA League. I mean, I know there are instances. I

819
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:45,879
Speaker 4: think Kobe was one where he's like, I want out

820
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 4: of here, and they sort of salvage it, of course,

821
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 4: and they make a move and make him happy. But

822
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 4: most of the time, once that star player is like

823
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 4: I'm done, you got to move on. The more you

824
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 4: drag your feet, the more likely you just get a

825
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 4: worse package back. In my opinion, do you think he'll

826
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 4: be traded this week? I mean this weekend?

827
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,720
Speaker 7: I'm not sure. Maybe not quite so soon, but certainly

828
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 7: the Rockets I think, will start to realize that the

829
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 7: demands that they were hoping for are not there, so

830
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 7: they will take a lesser package. But I think they

831
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,439
Speaker 7: probably will make a few return calls and just see

832
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 7: who can offer them the best package and see if

833
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,399
Speaker 7: they can maybe work teams against each other a little

834
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 7: bit to try to increase his value. But I'm not

835
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 7: sure it's going to come together that quickly, because again,

836
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 7: you look at a situation, they're like, what are the

837
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 7: Rockets want in return? Do they say, you know what,

838
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 7: let's blow it up and let's start again. Get picks

839
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 7: and so we're not going to get talent quality in return.

840
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 7: But we're going to get future prospects, or do you

841
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 7: say we want to Ben Simmons and that's the minimum.

842
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 7: We want an All Stars sort of level talent. So

843
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 7: in that case, I don't think then you also get

844
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 7: the picks on top of that. I think it's almost

845
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 7: one or the other, and it's just going to be

846
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 7: which team is sort of more desperate to just land

847
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 7: that star. I mean, would a team like the Bulls

848
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 7: make this move knowing that again that the Bulls have

849
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,439
Speaker 7: been certainly better in their last few games, but there's

850
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,760
Speaker 7: still a long way from seriously contending. So James Harden,

851
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 7: if he's there, he might be like, well, this is

852
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 7: not the situation I want to go to because it's

853
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 7: not going to be too dissimilar to the role he

854
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 7: to the situation in Houston, where he can play, he

855
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 7: can put up the numbers, but whatever the Bulls have

856
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 7: to give back in return. Harden might find himself like saying, well,

857
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 7: you know, I want to be on a contender. I

858
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 7: want to be on a team that's going to motivate

859
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 7: me the most. So go into a team like Philadelphia

860
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 7: is fine, But that's because he's going to be playing

861
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 7: alongside someone like Joelle Embiid, but a team like Chicago

862
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 7: who might be like, we just want that star player.

863
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 7: We're prepared to give up some of our younger assets

864
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 7: in order to get him. What's gonna what's going to

865
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 7: basically be the best situation to get the best James

866
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 7: Harden out of that situation. So I'm not sure it's

867
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 7: a it's a murky, murky odd thing as it's as

868
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 7: well because his contract is just so enormous. You know,

869
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 7: the other team is going to have to give up

870
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 7: a lot of assets just to get him back, and

871
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 7: that that's going to be the tough thing for Houston

872
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 7: to deal with and to accept because it's like, you're

873
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 7: not going to get both. I don't think it's one

874
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 7: or the other start player or young picks and you

875
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 7: know dead contracts basically.

876
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 4: Right, all right, well, we'll see we will fire up

877
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 4: the gams hard and trade emergency podcast he think of

878
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 4: the next couple of days. I mean, I'm double with

879
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 4: tripling down on that. But it's got to be common

880
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 4: now or he's just can't play with the Rockets right now.

881
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 4: Why ticket's going to be one of the others. I've

882
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 4: said a couple of times her final game. I know

883
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 4: you watched it there, lelle last night. It's obvious. This morning,

884
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 4: Durance scores thirty four as the Nets charge back from

885
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 4: eating down to top the Nuggets. Another really good game

886
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 4: last night. Big takeaway.

887
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, Kevin Durant is known for his scoring, but

888
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 7: maybe passing is his best skill, because he was so

889
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 7: so good last night at managing this game. The Nets

890
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 7: were down big in this one, Kevin Durant didn't panic.

891
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 7: He got his teammates involved. He had thirteen assists to

892
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 7: six different players, like and you could just see the

893
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 7: way that he was running this game. He was like,

894
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 7: I know I can take over this game when I

895
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 7: need to. I just want to keep these guys involved.

896
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 7: And he did some incredible passes to his teammates who

897
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 7: were cutting going to the rim. And then when it

898
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 7: was time. Kevin Durant's already missed two kind of potential

899
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 7: game winners this season. Last night, he didn't put himself

900
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 7: in that position because he hit the go ahead two pointer,

901
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 7: like just went into the lane and just walked in

902
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 7: and scored a little step back and then did this

903
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 7: just gorgeous step back three pointer which sealed the game

904
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 7: there for the nets in the comeback victory, and he

905
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,720
Speaker 7: for me. I mean, people say he's the best scorer

906
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 7: the NBA has ever seen. I'm not sure if that's true,

907
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 7: but he might be one of the players who can

908
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 7: score as easily as he wants any way he wants to,

909
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 7: whether that's three pointer, whether that's going in for a

910
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 7: little mid range or if he goes in for one

911
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 7: of those layups that basically is undefendable when he goes

912
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 7: inside because he's so long, he's so tall, and he

913
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 7: can jump up high and basically he can out jump

914
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 7: anyone who's trying to block that shot.

915
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 4: Whether he's half touched too.

916
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 7: Oh my god. Yeah. But that's the thing. It's like

917
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 7: if if sometimes in the fast break he's like, I'm

918
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 7: just gonna take this down and dunk it. Other times

919
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 7: he's going to pull it out, wait for another teammate,

920
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 7: find that teammate, and other times he's just like, oh,

921
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 7: this guy is defending me. Well, you're going if you're

922
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 7: gonna beIN in sult me by putting this guy on me,

923
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 7: I'm just going to show you how easy it is

924
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 7: for me to score. He's an incredible player. I know,

925
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 7: he's already been an MVP in this league, and he's

926
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,280
Speaker 7: kind of always in that conversation when he's playing, of course,

927
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,280
Speaker 7: but this also a little bit like Lebron. It's almost

928
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 7: like Durant's like, I could be MVP if I really

929
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 7: really wanted it, but I'm sort of just more interested

930
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 7: in managing this team, getting some wins and being in

931
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 7: control of the game because he is in control of

932
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 7: the game, even though they were down big and the

933
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 7: Nuggets were playing well, not a lot of defense in

934
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 7: this one, but it just felt while Kevin Durant was

935
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 7: on the court, it was his game to decide when

936
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 7: he was going to win the game, and the Nets

937
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 7: pull away late and get the victory. He's in such

938
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 7: control of his game right now. It's incredible for a

939
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 7: guy who missed, you know, eighteen months with a devastating

940
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 7: injury that some players don't ever return to their full

941
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:50,240
Speaker 7: strength from.

942
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 4: I think I saw going around on Twitter last night

943
00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:54,879
Speaker 4: that Kevin Durant passed Dwene Weed on the NBA's all

944
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 4: time scoring list.

945
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 7: Well, he definitely passed Adrian Dantley. I'm not sure if

946
00:39:59,400 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 7: he passed.

947
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 4: I think that's only crap that seems quick. Yeah, I

948
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 4: mean Dwayne Wade. It's a scorer. He got a lot

949
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 4: of points obviously in the NBA, and Katie's already passed him. Yeah,

950
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 4: what'd you think, Tray?

951
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was with the Skeets.

952
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 6: I was tapped in on the Heat versus Sixers game

953
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 6: seeing the tweets coming about Kevin Durant going off. So

954
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 6: I just had to catch Kevin Durant this morning last night,

955
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 6: and he's awesome. Man. You would not know that he

956
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 6: missed eighteen months with an achilles injury. He looks like

957
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 6: he's one hundred percent back. He's obviously an incredible score

958
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 6: And you're totally right. It's like what Kevin Durant was

959
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 6: in the seven draft?

960
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 2: Is that right?

961
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 7: Yeah?

962
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 2: Seven seven draft?

963
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 6: Dwayn Wade was in the three draft. Like that's only

964
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 6: four seasons different, right that he already passed them. I

965
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 6: think he also passed Algend Baylor. These are legendary names,

966
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 6: These are Hall of Fame names. Kevin Durant would be

967
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 6: finish in the top five in career scoring. He's still

968
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 6: got a chance, I think, and that's even after missing

969
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 6: eighteen months of basketball. He can score every single way

970
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 6: he won four straight scoring titles back in the day,

971
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:00,720
Speaker 6: and I think that people can I've kind of forgot

972
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 6: about that because he became more than a scorer. He

973
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 6: became a Lebron like player who can create for teammates,

974
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 6: who can contribute defensively and really shut things down when

975
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 6: he's engaged there. He's awesome. He's the best player in

976
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,240
Speaker 6: the Eastern Conference. I would say, maybe even ahead of Yannis.

977
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 6: Just it's easy to sleep on Giannis right now. Sam's

978
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 6: as it was easy to sleep on Shack back in

979
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 6: the day when somebody's able to.

980
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 2: Dominate that easily.

981
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,760
Speaker 6: But when he's got it going, man, there's few players

982
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 6: that are more fun to watch. And like you're saying, Lee,

983
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 6: he's had a bunch of really great shots to win

984
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 6: games for the Nets this season that just haven't dropped.

985
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 6: They did last night.

986
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, and this, uh, this win may have been big

987
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 4: for Brooklyn too, maybe bought them a little bit of time.

988
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 4: Another l would have been rough there and they were

989
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 4: down big. Like you said, I mean, Jokic was not

990
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,240
Speaker 4: happy with the Nuggets defense completely falling apart. He's kicking chairs.

991
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 4: He's pissed as they wanted to close out that road

992
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 4: trip with a victory, but I mean it bought them

993
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 4: some time because Kyrie Irving still not playing with this team.

994
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 4: He's not expected to join Brooklyn this week. He's gonna

995
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 4: miss more games. The NBA is reviewing this mass cliss

996
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 4: video that you know, surfaced of him what appears to

997
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 4: be at his sister's thirtieth birthday party, big group setting.

998
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 4: You're not supposed to do that under the NBA's you know,

999
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 4: health and safety COVID protocols here, so he could be

1000
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 4: dinged for that. And yeah, like it's sounding like they

1001
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 4: don't even know when he's going to be back. We

1002
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 4: don't really know what's going on with Kyrie specifically. Now.

1003
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 4: This is something we just didn't talk about yesterday because

1004
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 4: we're like, you know, the video had surface night before.

1005
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 4: I'm like, well, let's just wait and see if we

1006
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 4: get a little more detail. I guess we've gotten a

1007
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 4: little bit in terms of the NBA investigating it, but

1008
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 4: there's still a big unknown of really what's personally going

1009
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 4: on with Kyrie because they just say it keep saying

1010
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 4: it's personal reasons that he's out. And then Nash and

1011
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,439
Speaker 4: like Sean Mark's the GM and the nets are asked

1012
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,280
Speaker 4: about it, and they really sound like they don't know either.

1013
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 4: I mean, am I reading into that? They're just like,

1014
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 4: we don't know either, and they're gonna keep getting asked

1015
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 4: about this until we eventually have an answer. So I

1016
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 4: think it bought him a little bit of time in

1017
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 4: the sense like they lose another one, there's even more

1018
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 4: of a spotlight and maybe even hard in wanting out,

1019
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 4: of course demianding that trade help seen know Kyrie. But

1020
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 4: this is still a big news because anything involving Kyrie

1021
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 4: Irving is a big, big deal. But Trey, I mean,

1022
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 4: what do you make of what's going on with him?

1023
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,839
Speaker 4: And I know he appeared on a virtual fundraiser last

1024
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 4: night for the Manhattan District Attorney. I think, right he's

1025
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 4: on the zoom call before the game and people are like,

1026
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 4: what's he doing? What's going on? Anyway?

1027
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 6: What do you make of this what appears to be

1028
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 6: a bit of a obviously a wild Kyrie story. I

1029
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 6: don't really know what to make of it because we

1030
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 6: don't really know what's going on. I know I miss

1031
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 6: watching Kyrie Irving play basketball because it seems like every

1032
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 6: story we've had about Kyrie Irving for three seasons is

1033
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 6: off the court stuff and we forget that he's so

1034
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 6: good when he plays. You saw it in the first

1035
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 6: couple of weeks of the season when he was out

1036
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 6: there with Kevin Durant. The Nets looks like they could

1037
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 6: be one of the best teams in the league. Kyrie

1038
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 6: just seems to be going through some stuff, and that

1039
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 6: seems like that has been the case for a few seasons.

1040
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 6: He's on a journey and maybe basketball is not what

1041
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 6: is inspiring Kyrie Irving anymore. And that's fine if that's

1042
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 6: the case, but if he still wants to play basketball

1043
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 6: needs to communicate with the Nets. It's going to be

1044
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 6: impossible for his teammates and for his coaches to keep

1045
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 6: answering these questions. But they don't know what's going on.

1046
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 6: So I don't know whatever's going on with Kyrie Irving.

1047
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 6: The only way we're going to find out what's going

1048
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 6: on with them is hearing from him, and nobody has

1049
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 6: really for a while.

1050
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 2: So until that happens, it's up in the air. Man,

1051
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 2: is he going to be back in the NBA. I

1052
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know.

1053
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 7: We don't know anything to add Well, again, if he

1054
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 7: is sort of just not in the right mental place.

1055
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 7: Then you hope he does get whatever sort of treatment

1056
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 7: and help he needs to, because you can't just decide

1057
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 7: I'm just not playing anymore and still pick up your

1058
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,760
Speaker 7: paychecks and then just going to be at your sister's

1059
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 7: birthday party having a good time. You need to be

1060
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 7: able to say to the team, listen, this is not

1061
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 7: for me anymore, or I need to take the time away.

1062
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 7: Kyrie doesn't owe it to us, No, he owes it

1063
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 7: to the nets.

1064
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 4: I think exactly.

1065
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 7: I mean, they're paying him a huge salary. And again,

1066
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 7: if someone is dealing with something, you want to give

1067
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 7: them the full support. But if this video of him

1068
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 7: at the birthday party is true, he does look like

1069
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 7: he's having too many problems there, and and again on

1070
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 7: that zoom call last night. He's got time for that. Well,

1071
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 7: you've got it. You've got to talk to your team,

1072
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 7: You've got to communicate, and so at least Steve Nash

1073
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 7: or Sean Marks can say something clearly to the media

1074
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 7: and they know exactly what's going on, because right now

1075
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 7: everyone's just looking. He's embarrassing the team, he's embarrassing the

1076
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 7: franchise because it just he's not giving clear direction as

1077
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 7: to why he's behaving the way he's behaving. So now

1078
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 7: he's a bit of a unique guy.

1079
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 4: You know.

1080
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 7: He sort of dances to the beat of his own drum,

1081
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 7: which is which is again fine, but you can't. You

1082
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 7: can't just say all right, I'm just I'm just not

1083
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 7: playing anymore and not tell the team.

1084
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 4: You can you can, well, you should tell your team. Yeah,

1085
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 4: we've talked to him, we're working on he's working on

1086
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,479
Speaker 4: some things. We're figuring out a plan. But like again,

1087
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 4: these seem just in the in the direct just as

1088
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 4: much as we are, which is a problem.

1089
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, and also you need to sort of know what

1090
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 7: the plan is going forward, because what's to say he

1091
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 7: doesn't come back for a couple of games and then

1092
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,760
Speaker 7: just say, yeah, I'm out again for another ten games.

1093
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 7: I don't know. So you know, I wish him all

1094
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 7: the best because it's certainly an odd situation and it

1095
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 7: certainly seems like he's dealing with something. We just don't

1096
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 7: know what that is.

1097
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 4: Well, wait to find out when it comes to Kyrie.

1098
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 4: All right, we have some news from yesterday. This is

1099
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 4: big news, so just you know, there's sort of a

1100
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 4: lot of details to give you guys here, both you,

1101
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,240
Speaker 4: Trey and Lee and everyone joining us live and listening.

1102
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,760
Speaker 4: So amid multiple teams dealing with these COVID nineteen issues,

1103
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 4: the NBA has implemented stricter health and safety protocols for

1104
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 4: the players before, during, and after games now. The changes

1105
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 4: include a lot of things. They include outlawing hugging. Man,

1106
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 4: your man, Divine's going to hate to hear that that

1107
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,280
Speaker 4: guy's a hugger man. That's gonna be tough for our man, Divine.

1108
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 4: Outlawing hugging and other physical interaction between opposing players before

1109
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,720
Speaker 4: and after the game, as well as reducing social interaction

1110
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 4: during play, so you're supposed to only do elbow or

1111
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,439
Speaker 4: fist bumps, you know, when you're out there. The NBA

1112
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 4: plan is also enforcing the wearing of masks by coaches

1113
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 4: and players on the bench during games more strictly. Okay,

1114
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 4: so they're going to zero in on that. The most

1115
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 4: dramatic change, though, maybe closing off of rooms to non

1116
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 4: team guests in road hotels. The league is no longer

1117
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 4: allowing players and staff to leave hotels for non team activities,

1118
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 4: and it is eliminating visitors to hotel rooms because players

1119
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 4: were previously allowed to have up to two guests, which

1120
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 4: seemed like a bad idea right from the jump. But

1121
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:19,240
Speaker 4: no more. There are a number of other rules, including

1122
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 4: like reduced pregame meetings and specific seating charts on flights

1123
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 4: and potentially extra testing, and it goes on and on

1124
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 4: and on. Do you have any faith trait in any

1125
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 4: of this working or was this sort of the league

1126
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 4: putting this out there for an optics, you know, reason, Like,

1127
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 4: what do you think of the again, these updated health

1128
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:37,240
Speaker 4: and safety protocols?

1129
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 6: Well, I have a little bit of faith in it,

1130
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 6: but not a lot. The only reason I have some

1131
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 6: faith in this is that apparently everybody wants to push

1132
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 6: through this and continue to play the season. Everybody wants

1133
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 6: to finish. Nobody wants to go in a bubble, nobody

1134
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 6: wants to postponent which means then that everybody needs to

1135
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 6: commit to it. Because if everybody's saying, yeah, we're going

1136
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 6: to be playing the season, and allegedly that's the case,

1137
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 6: the idea of stopping the season never even came up.

1138
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 6: Things need to change, you know, So they got to

1139
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,320
Speaker 6: do a little bit better protecting, which means that everybody

1140
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 6: has to buy in on this one hundred percent. And

1141
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 6: I mean it's kind of ridiculous that guests were allowed.

1142
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 2: In rooms anyways.

1143
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 6: I mean, I know it's going to be tough for

1144
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 6: the players to not be seeing people and traveling from

1145
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 6: city to city to city to city and just going

1146
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 6: to your hotel room, going to see your team, going

1147
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 6: back to.

1148
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 2: Your hotel room. Blah blah blah blah blah.

1149
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 6: You're doing the same thing every single day. But that's

1150
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 6: what it's got to be if you're going to be

1151
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 6: able to keep everybody healthy. It's hard with all this

1152
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 6: travel that the teams are going to be doing. It's

1153
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 6: hard playing an indoor sport. But maybe they just need

1154
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,439
Speaker 6: to explore the space a little bit more. We saw

1155
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 6: Embiid sitting far away from the team. There's some reports

1156
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 6: of a cool down period basically for a player who

1157
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 6: comes off the court who doesn't have to wear a

1158
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 6: mask right away, but they got to sit really far

1159
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 6: away from the team, just like Embiid was doing. And honestly,

1160
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 6: maybe at this point the league should start looking into

1161
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 6: getting all the players vaccinated. I know, people, it would

1162
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 6: be bad for optics to be jumping the list, but

1163
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 6: distribution is not going according to play regardless for the vaccine,

1164
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 6: there are huge swaths of the population who will not

1165
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 6: take it. The number of doses needed for the NBA,

1166
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,320
Speaker 6: it can't be that high, right, there's a five hundred players,

1167
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 6: Maybe there's another couple thousand NBA employees who would then

1168
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 6: need to do it. We're talking three thousand doses for

1169
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 6: a billion dollar industry with thousands of jobs depending on it.

1170
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 6: It would look bad for a minute for sure to

1171
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 6: be getting the vaccine before a lot of people do.

1172
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 6: But maybe it's also a smart move financially and for

1173
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 6: the league to take that pr hit rather than the

1174
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 6: pr hit of having to postpone the season and postpone

1175
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,839
Speaker 6: games all this kind of stuff. But uh, I don't

1176
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 6: know if everybody buys in. If it's one hundred percent

1177
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 6: buy in, these additional precautions will help. But if it's

1178
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 6: a ninety five percent buy in, then we're in the

1179
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 6: same spot in another month.

1180
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, one GM told the ESPN when Wolsh

1181
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 4: was writing about this, that allowing visitors to hotel rooms

1182
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,879
Speaker 4: was the mac truck driving through all of the protocols.

1183
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 4: That was a direct quote from that anonymous GM, all

1184
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,959
Speaker 4: of this cool zone, more masks on the floor, Hey,

1185
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 4: go to the fist pump inst of the high fives.

1186
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 4: Complete bullshit. I don't think change is a damn thing.

1187
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 4: It's all this stuff off of the floor. Because what

1188
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 4: they're trying to do is to have this bubble what

1189
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 4: we had in Disney World and are trying to make

1190
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,720
Speaker 4: thirty bubbles Lee that then all can move around together

1191
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 4: with all of these people within it. Good luck with that,

1192
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,879
Speaker 4: and that, to me is the difficult part. And even

1193
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 4: George Hill is like coming out and talking about this.

1194
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 4: He's like, so what you just want us from fly

1195
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 4: to city to city and just stay in our hotel room.

1196
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 4: The answer to the NBA is saying, yeah, yeah, we

1197
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 4: want a bubble for your team and it just moves

1198
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 4: together everywhere and doesn't go and do anything else. But

1199
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Speaker 4: George Hill's saying that's ridiculous, Well yeah it is. I mean,

1200
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 4: twenty twenty and twenty twenty one is ridiculous with this pandemic.

1201
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 4: But that's the only way this is going to work.

1202
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 4: All this other stuff on the floor. Sure, I mean

1203
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 4: it can't it can't hurt, you know, it only helps.

1204
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 4: I guess but I think that's a bit of a

1205
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 4: bit of silliness because I watched the games last night.

1206
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 4: I didn't see a lot of fist bumps. I saw

1207
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,399
Speaker 4: one hundred high fives. I saw all the constant playing

1208
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 4: down masks. You're right, I saw him beat in a

1209
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 4: cool zone period. But they're still playing basketball with each other.

1210
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 4: I don't know why. You know, they're not considered close

1211
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 4: contact when they're playing contact basketball. So I think it's

1212
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 4: the warriorstome part is the stuff after for in my.

1213
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,879
Speaker 7: Be Yeah, once you're on the court, it virtually does

1214
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 7: nothing to say, Okay, don't high five each other, go

1215
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 7: for a fist pump, because you're breathing all over each other.

1216
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 7: You're sweating all over each other, and this is a

1217
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 7: transmittable virus through the air, so it's in the air

1218
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:27,879
Speaker 7: if you're that close to people. So there's also you're

1219
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 7: also asking a lot from the players to understand all

1220
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 7: the things that are allowed to do and not allowed

1221
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 7: to do, you know, because it's like it feels like

1222
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:36,919
Speaker 7: at times it's like okay, you know again, when you're

1223
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 7: having shoot around only for ten minutes or whatever it is,

1224
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 7: are you allowed to then be all over each other

1225
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:43,280
Speaker 7: for that ten minutes, but then you have to separate.

1226
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 7: I mean the damage is done at that point, I think.

1227
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:47,919
Speaker 7: And then when you are on the road, it's like, Okay,

1228
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 7: you're no longer allowed to go to restaurants, you're no

1229
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 7: longer allowed to have people to your room. But what

1230
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 7: you know, are you allowed to go to Starbucks and

1231
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:56,319
Speaker 7: get a coffee around the corner if you go by

1232
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 7: yourself and you wear a mask. Is that okay? I

1233
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 7: mean I think there's it's a little bit using, but

1234
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 7: clearly the league and the owners are doing everything they

1235
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 7: can to prevent having to suspend the season because of

1236
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 7: course that means the suspension in payments, and that's ultimately

1237
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 7: what it comes down to. It's a financial and economic

1238
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 7: decision before it's a safety decision, because if it was

1239
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 7: purely a safety, health and safety decision, I don't think

1240
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 7: we would be playing right now. So you know, it's

1241
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 7: definitely a sort of situation that Adam Silva said coming

1242
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 7: in it was have to deal with these things as

1243
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 7: they come up, and right now they're facing a problem

1244
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 7: where the Celtics I think have had three games now postponed.

1245
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 4: We've had six total games now here basically three and

1246
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 4: a half weeks.

1247
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 7: Post now, they'll be able to make up those games

1248
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 7: even if you play back to back to back whatever

1249
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,800
Speaker 7: at some point. But it's like, how much damage is

1250
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 7: going to be done first? And at what point does

1251
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 7: the league say, Okay, we do need to actually now

1252
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 7: take a two week break, a month's break, a three

1253
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 7: week you know. Again, those sort of questions are very,

1254
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:57,760
Speaker 7: very difficult to answer. But trying to ask the players

1255
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 7: and executives and officials and everyone who's traveling, they're basically

1256
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 7: not interact with each other at all unless you're on

1257
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:09,320
Speaker 7: the court. It's almost impossible to police, and it's almost

1258
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 7: impossible to enforce as well, because it's natural. At some

1259
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 7: point players will be like, I don't have the virus.

1260
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 7: I'll be fine. You know, no one's going to know

1261
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 7: if I sit next to this person on the plane

1262
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:19,760
Speaker 7: not wearing a mask, you know what I mean? Like people,

1263
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 7: you get lazy and you're just like, I'll be fine.

1264
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 7: It's not gonna happen here, so you know, but they're trying.

1265
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 7: I guess they're trying because they just as I say,

1266
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 7: they want to prevent having another work stoppage.

1267
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,280
Speaker 4: No they're going to go through with this damn season.

1268
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 4: I mean, they saw what the NFL did and MLB

1269
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 4: and they had their complications obviously college sports too, and

1270
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 4: they're like, no, well they got through it, and we're

1271
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 4: getting through it. And you're lately you're spot on, like

1272
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 4: if safety was at the top of the priority list,

1273
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 4: then there probably be no damn sports.

1274
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 2: But it's not.

1275
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 4: And so they're just gonna barrel through here and try

1276
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 4: and put in as many rules and you know, protocols

1277
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 4: as you can. Again, policing it all is like you said,

1278
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 4: like damn here in partible. But I guess maybe they

1279
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 4: start coming down harder on guys that are breaking this

1280
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Speaker 4: stuff on the floor. I don't know, that's that guy's

1281
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 4: wearing his mask wrong. All right, it's ten thousand dollars

1282
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 4: like set that precedent. We'll see I know Doc Rivers

1283
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 4: already got fine, but maybe we'll see more of that

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00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:16,439
Speaker 4: wild stuff wild stuff.

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00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 7: All right.

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00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:18,879
Speaker 4: We got tweeted the night we actually have a top

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Speaker 4: five lee from you. You're gonna count down your top

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00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 4: five fingers, eh, welling moments, well finger moments. I thought

1289
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:30,479
Speaker 4: you'd be like, Okay, my index finger, that's number two. Okay,

1290
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 4: we'll get to that in a second. All right, Lee,

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00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 4: let's get to this top five.

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00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 6: Top five, Top five, tom By Top five Top five.

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00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 4: Coming in at number five, Lee's pinky finger doesn't do

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00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 4: a whole lot.

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00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 7: My fingers are going to stay out of this one.

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00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 7: But now, you guys remember the other day when the

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00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 7: yell a clip is tweeted at a picture of Kawhi

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00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 7: Lenna's gigantic hands and then he's, uh, his middle finger

1299
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 7: there wrapping around the two bottles of liquid. I'm not

1300
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 7: sure what's in both. I guess water's in one. I'm

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00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 7: not sure what's in the other. Well, I don't know.

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Speaker 7: I was just sort of thinking afterwards, like fingers are

1303
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 7: pretty big in the NBA, So I tried to find

1304
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:18,880
Speaker 7: my favorite top five finger moments from NBA history. Okay, okay,

1305
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 7: so let's go number five. Let's stay with Kawhi Leonard

1306
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 7: because it's his finger flock on Jamal Murray down in

1307
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 7: the bubble there.

1308
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 4: Now, look at that.

1309
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 7: That is his index finger blocking a dunk.

1310
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 2: Look at it.

1311
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 7: There, Just incredible. This is only at number five, This

1312
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 7: is only at number five. Yeah, it gets it gets

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00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 7: better from here. Well, I hope it gets better from

1314
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 7: here anyway, because at number four, a very iconic moment,

1315
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,879
Speaker 7: Game seven of the Western Conference Finals in ninet ninety five,

1316
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:49,240
Speaker 7: Murray Early with a two finger here celebration the kiss

1317
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:52,320
Speaker 7: are dead for he hits the three that basically seals

1318
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 7: the three to one comeback, sends that over there to

1319
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 7: the Phoenix Sun's bench. At classic moment. You guys know,

1320
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 7: I love to bring that up whenever we open cards

1321
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 7: and Murray Elli pops out the kiss of there, the

1322
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 7: beautiful moment there.

1323
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 4: Okay.

1324
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 7: At number three, we go out to Utah.

1325
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 4: Oh good one and Delonte West.

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00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:12,919
Speaker 7: Yeah, I look back at this and Delonte West kind

1327
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 7: of gets in Gordon Hayward's face on the way down

1328
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:17,839
Speaker 7: the court. He's angry at Gordon Hayward for.

1329
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 4: Some reason, and then he gives him the.

1330
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 7: Rare dry wet willie.

1331
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 6: Ye.

1332
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 7: Now, he didn't get suspended for that game, but he

1333
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 7: did get a twenty five thousand dollar fine for the

1334
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 7: wet willy late in the ear hall. There, poor old

1335
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 7: Gordon Hayward there, the dry wet willy. Yeah, very very funny.

1336
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:35,760
Speaker 4: Okay.

1337
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 7: At number two, we go to the NBA Award Show

1338
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 7: in twenty eighteen and Charles Barkley is up on stage

1339
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:47,760
Speaker 7: with Kareim at bil Jabbar and they're basically just thanking

1340
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 7: Bill Russell for his contribution to the game. That's not

1341
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 7: like Charles Barkley started ripping on Bill Russell. He's just

1342
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,280
Speaker 7: saying thank you, Bill Russell. And this is Bill Russell's

1343
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:56,240
Speaker 7: responsible finger.

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00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,360
Speaker 4: How do you give the finger, by the way in

1345
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 4: the middle finger, I'm like that, yeah, yeah, okay, thumb.

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00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 6: People always think the picture behind you is somebody seeing

1347
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 6: it next to.

1348
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 7: Your finger the elephant there.

1349
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:13,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, so Bill Russell.

1350
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 7: Now, Bill Russell has done that a few other times

1351
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 7: to where it just sticks his finger right, it's Bill Russell.

1352
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,439
Speaker 7: It's a legend. It's number two there, but of course

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00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 7: I think number one. Well, this guy, I mean, he

1354
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 7: not only made his career out of being this being

1355
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 7: his calling card, but he also turned it into commercial

1356
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 7: success as well. We've seen him in commercials, you know,

1357
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 7: advertising things. He's always making fun to kenby my Tombo's

1358
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 7: signature celebration. You know, he did this pretty much his

1359
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 7: entire career where he blocks guys, he blocks shots, throws

1360
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 7: up the number the index finger and if you guys.

1361
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 7: Remember we had to ken be on the show, and

1362
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 7: when we went to photo corner, we actually didn't do

1363
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 7: a photo. We just did the boomerang there, all of

1364
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 7: us doing it.

1365
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's just how I wiggly fingers a

1366
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 3: good clip. I haven't seen that in a long time. Yes,

1367
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 3: why is it him black and white? Were we shooting

1368
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 3: that in like nineteen forty years?

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00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 7: I'm not sure that was on my phone, but I

1370
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 7: wondered that as well. I thought I wonder if it

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00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 7: was Carlos or Rick who did that the boomerang? And

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00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 7: did they do it in black and white?

1373
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 4: I'm not sure.

1374
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 7: I can't remember, but maybe we asked. Maybe I said, hey,

1375
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 7: do it in black and white for some reason, but

1376
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 7: you know, who knows.

1377
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 4: All right, that's a good top five list. Was there

1378
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 4: anything else in the mix? Just out of curiosity?

1379
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 7: Well, Gerald Green and Davis Burton's were both in the

1380
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 7: mix because they don't have ten fingers, they only have

1381
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 7: around nine nine and a half in there somewhere.

1382
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 4: But spur times yeah.

1383
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 7: Apparently Javis spurtans. Yeah. Green his ring finger got caught

1384
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 7: something and he lost part of his finger as well.

1385
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 7: So yeah, some fun moments. I wanted to get like

1386
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 7: a Joey Crawford sort of pointing, you know, when he

1387
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 7: ejects someone, like he's pointing that finger out there. But

1388
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 7: it was more the whole, you know, the ejection, rather

1389
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 7: than just his finger there. So yeah, anyway, there you go.

1390
00:58:57,280 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 4: Top five fingers according to le Ellis in MBAs, did

1391
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 4: he miss one? Let us know in the stream team

1392
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 4: comments and the YouTube comments. Tweet at us at No Dunkstand.

1393
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 4: Great stuff, Lely, thats a lot of fun. All right, Trey,

1394
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 4: you got tweeted the night.

1395
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 7: My man.

1396
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 2: Tweet out the night.

1397
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 6: Wow, had a really nice tweet of the night lined

1398
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 6: up coming into today, it was Kendall Gill, our old

1399
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 6: friend challenging Jake Hall to a boxing match. Interesting stuff,

1400
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 6: I mean, honestly, probably a good match, differing ages, of course.

1401
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 6: But earlier this morning, a No Dunks fan by the

1402
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 6: name of Sam.

1403
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 2: Likes eggs hit us up on Twitter.

1404
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 4: Exactly.

1405
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 2: That's why I thought it was. I was like, I'm

1406
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 2: onto you, Speet. I know you like eggs too.

1407
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:53,640
Speaker 6: Anyways, this is an incredible clip. It's Steven Adams going

1408
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 6: on a show called He We's Abroad to talk about

1409
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 6: how he's been spending his free time.

1410
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 7: How do you keep busy in between games and trainings things,

1411
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 7: just doing a bit of Oh I got a worm

1412
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 7: farm now.

1413
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 4: At my house.

1414
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 7: Bought some worms the other day, some compost wims and

1415
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 7: also have a microscope so I could check out all

1416
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 7: the little bugs and the soil and whatnot.

1417
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 4: Just real nerdy stuff.

1418
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 2: Bro, I'm going a bit mad.

1419
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 4: Not help me.

1420
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 6: This guy got a worm farm. This guy got a

1421
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 6: worm farm and a microscope. So I guess when he

1422
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 6: gets back to New Orleans he just out checks out

1423
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 6: the little bugs. But I mean, shout out to Steven Adams.

1424
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 6: Every interview with this guy is great. I didn't know

1425
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 6: a worm farm was a thing outside of a dumb

1426
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 6: and dumber. That's the last I heard of a worm farm.

1427
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 6: They were opening the store. We got worms, but just amazing.

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01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 6: Just imagine Steven Adams with a microscope spending all of

1429
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 6: his free time watching worms. That's apparently what he's doing.

1430
01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 4: I believe it. Yeah, he is so damn funny.

1431
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 2: Oh like what he does?

1432
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 3: That Lee?

1433
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 4: You were fired up to kiwis was that last week

1434
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 4: when you were I guess making a joke about Steve

1435
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 4: Williams was after the triple double right, and you were

1436
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:16,640
Speaker 4: contemplating the best athlete in New Zealand history and you

1437
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 4: said it was Tiger Woods Caddy.

1438
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, well now he was the highest paid in

1439
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 7: New Zealand athlete for a while there. And I said,

1440
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 7: Steve Adams triple double was the greatest sporting achievement in

1441
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 7: New Zealand history. But most of the Kiwi's got it.

1442
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 7: A few of them got a little bit UPO. You're

1443
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 7: talking about Li You said, look at the ICY Cricket

1444
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 7: rankings and I'm like, yeah, okay, when was the last

1445
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 7: time he beat Australia in a Test series?

1446
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 4: Like about fifty years ago? But are they high in

1447
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 4: the ICY rankings right now?

1448
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 7: Well, apparently they're ranked number one because they just had

1449
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 7: a big series victory over I think the West Indies,

1450
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 7: but the West Indies are yeah. And then Pakistan ye.

1451
01:01:56,600 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 4: Okay, excellent stuff. That was a nice last minute switch

1452
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 4: up there, I think for tweeting a night t K though,

1453
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 4: I would put money on Kendall Gill beating the snot

1454
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 4: out of Jake Paul's.

1455
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,520
Speaker 7: He He's four and zero in his professional boxing career.

1456
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 7: Kendall Gill.

1457
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 4: Jake Paul's three and only in his prime, But I

1458
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 4: mean Jake Poule's fighting guys that don't even box. Kendell

1459
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 4: will is a boxer man.

1460
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what he's saying. That's what he's saying.

1461
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 6: You got to give the NBA a chance to regain

1462
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 6: some glory because I don't know if you'll watch the

1463
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 6: Nate Robinson match, but uh, not a great look for now.

1464
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 4: I did not watch it. I saw the memes obviously

1465
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:33,200
Speaker 4: of him lying on the ground.

1466
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:35,959
Speaker 7: But yeah, how tall is Jake Paul?

1467
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 2: How tall is Jake Paul?

1468
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 4: Six two six one?

1469
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 3: Oh?

1470
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 2: Is that big?

1471
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 7: Yeah? Kendah, Yeah, yeah, I mean Kendall six', five so

1472
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 7: you know he's a big. Guy and, Uh and WHEN

1473
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 7: i Saw jake And Nate, robins Because nate's what five

1474
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 7: nine five, ten he didn't look all that much bigger Than,

1475
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 7: Nate So i'm guessing he's, only you, know six one.

1476
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 7: Sixtre So KENDALL i think would go in as the

1477
01:02:57,840 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 7: favorite in that fight if they were to have.

1478
01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 4: It kills fifty years old, too, right Thank you's plus fifty.

1479
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 6: Two, Yeah but like Like lee's, saying he's got the.

1480
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 6: Experience Kendall gill has been part time professional boxing for

1481
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 6: like twenty. Years, yeah oh, Yeah, paul he's in his,

1482
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 6: prime right. THERE i think set it, up set it

1483
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 6: up the. MATCH i don't know If Kendall gill is

1484
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:18,919
Speaker 6: as big of a draws In Nate, robinson but maybe

1485
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 6: he was The Nate robinson his.

1486
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 4: Generation, well put me down For Kennell gill beating the

1487
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 4: crap out if it ever, happens or we're you gonna

1488
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 4: say THERE jd.

1489
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 5: Just Confirming Jake paul's height at six foot according To.

1490
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 5: Google there's another thing that says six to, one so that.

1491
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 4: Means he's five to eleven. Guaranteed, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly all,

1492
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 4: right pick him. Results it's a game we didn't talk about,

1493
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 4: THOUGH i Know tassa touched on it a little bit

1494
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 4: on what you need to, Know so go listen to

1495
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:44,400
Speaker 4: that or watch. That it was The Pacers warriors. Game

1496
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:46,920
Speaker 4: tass And. Lee you Had, Indiana, lee you got a.

1497
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 4: Victory they pulled it out. Late they want a nice

1498
01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 4: little run. Late they just had to cover the two

1499
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 4: and a half Because warriors were. Favored but they get the.

1500
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 4: Victory that's a, note right.

1501
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 2: Win so an awesome.

1502
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 4: Game double.

1503
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 2: Hilarious, YEAH i know.

1504
01:03:57,360 --> 01:03:59,439
Speaker 6: Fast it was like everybody's like, whatever we're just gonna

1505
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 6: rop and down the the whole. Time Cassius stanley was out,

1506
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:05,440
Speaker 6: There Edmund sumner was ball and throwing his body. Around fun.

1507
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 2: Stuff look like a scrimmage with both teams wearing blue and.

1508
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 2: Yellow loved.

1509
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 4: It, yeah they threw the box and one At curry

1510
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 4: again there Because Nate yorkern coming over from The raptors. Stuff,

1511
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 4: yeah it's a fun. Game i've apologize To pacers, fans

1512
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 4: especially for not talking about, it but tested, Anyway, INDY

1513
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:22,360
Speaker 4: i guess will. Win So, lee you're five and. Eight

1514
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 4: you're now tied With trey who's five inch because he

1515
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 4: took the l tastes seven and six and so AM.

1516
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 4: I so we got two of us seven and six

1517
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 4: and you guys are five and. Eight tonight's game Is,

1518
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 4: Brooklyn New York, Yoh battle of The. Burrows nets favored

1519
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 4: in this one by six and a. Half it's IN msg,

1520
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 4: though so leally get us. Started you don't need to

1521
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 4: flip a. COIN i, said if you lost yesterday that

1522
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 4: flip coin mean now you're on. Fire so, well, yeah

1523
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 4: six and a. HALF i mean, Sorry The knicks have

1524
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 4: definitely cooled off from the hot stot and that defense

1525
01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 4: is being. Bad The nets defense is awful though as.

1526
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 7: Well but they've Got Kevin. Durant and, again every TIME

1527
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:01,440
Speaker 7: i Watched Kevin, Durant i'm just like amazed by how

1528
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 7: good he. IS i think they've got seven points in,

1529
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 7: Them So i'll take The.

1530
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 4: Nets Is durant playing, though, Win i'm back to?

1531
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 7: Backs, well, yeah of COURSE i did think about that,

1532
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 7: too but Without, KYRIE i suspect you will. PLAY i,

1533
01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 7: mean who, knows who knows this year thinks they're all

1534
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 7: to be, crazy BUT i get.

1535
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:21,280
Speaker 4: Be postponed in the next hour. Exactly, yeah this ONE

1536
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 4: i think is gonna be a high scoring. Affair, Okay

1537
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 4: so you got The nets, though winning by seven or? More, yes, Okay, Trey, Yeah.

1538
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:28,520
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with The nets as.

1539
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 6: Well The knicks have looked kind of brutal after that

1540
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:34,440
Speaker 6: Huge Austin rivers fourth quarter that got him all win

1541
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 6: against The. Jazz three straight losses and they haven't even been.

1542
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 6: Close The knicks haven't scored over ninety points in three.

1543
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:41,919
Speaker 2: Games bad, News.

1544
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 6: BEARS i imagine they'll score over Ninety in this. One

1545
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 6: The nets don't play much. DEFENSE i wouldn't be surprised

1546
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 6: that this game's in the one. Forties give me The,

1547
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 6: nets they're looking. Good i'll take The knicks for a

1548
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:53,320
Speaker 6: lot of the reasons you guys are. SAYING i don't

1549
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 6: think there'll be a lot of. DEFENSE i don't even

1550
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:56,480
Speaker 6: know If katie will. PLAY i think The knicks will

1551
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 6: at least keep.

1552
01:05:56,960 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 4: It close enough to. Cover they gotta lose by six or.

1553
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 4: Lesser hey win the. Game Maybe randall goes for another

1554
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 4: monster triple. Level i'll take The. Knicks let's hear your

1555
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 4: task HAS i think.

1556
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 2: This line is a little too.

1557
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 6: Big The nets give up a lot of second chance,

1558
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 6: points and The knicks get after it on the offensive,

1559
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:14,920
Speaker 6: glass even if they can't really score all that.

1560
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 2: MUCH i think that keeps them. Close give me The

1561
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 2: New York.

1562
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 7: Knicks Wow, Wow Wow.

1563
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 4: Wow so there you, Go tas AND i will either

1564
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 4: extend our lead on you guys, tonight or you'll get

1565
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 4: a little bit closer and the buttholes will get a little.

1566
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 4: Tighter as we hear the end of near the end Of,

1567
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 4: january no no hold on It's january. Thirteenth it feels

1568
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 4: Like february. Anyway good luck to. Everybody thanks for joining us.

1569
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:43,320
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1579
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1580
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:08,760
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1581
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:11,520
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1582
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1583
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1584
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1585
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1586
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