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Speaker 2: And we are back.

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Speaker 3: I'm Dale LOLLI he is the Matt Williamson and Matt

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Speaker 3: It's time for a little mock draft here to continue

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Speaker 3: what we talked about in the first segment of the

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Speaker 3: show where we signed Amari Cooper. Yeah, we signed let's

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Speaker 3: say your various word th corners, and we signed Julian

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Speaker 3: Blackman type in safety. It would be a nice additions.

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Speaker 2: Those are the.

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Speaker 3: Three outside guys that we added.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you'd be sitting pretty on draft day, wet.

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Speaker 2: We've mentioned, you know, a Robert's, a Herbig. I don't

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Speaker 2: think that's small potatoes. I like those players on the

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Speaker 2: Jimmy's that we're throwing on. Yeah, yeah, but that this

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Speaker 2: eliminates needs you know, who you're getting. I would be

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Speaker 2: shocked if he one of those guys goes elsewhere. And

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Speaker 2: we're not going to the draft with zero quarterbacks on

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Speaker 2: the right. We have a quarterback right in house. Yep.

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Speaker 3: Do we want to explore any pre draft trades for

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Speaker 2: That's what I was gonna mention too, Like, that doesn't

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Speaker 2: we're trying to win football games here, you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't mean you couldn't make a Cooper Cup trade

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Speaker 2: I mean, like if you could get crazy. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I think if you were to trade for Tyreek, you're

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Speaker 3: But we explore that here.

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Speaker 2: All right, Okay, that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Do we do try to get Tyreek Hill? Whoa, Okay,

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Speaker 3: we're going We're going big, go big, or go home, Matt.

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Speaker 2: We're trying to win this thing, and.

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Speaker 3: We're going to trade George Pickens in the deal. Okay,

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Speaker 2: It's all about cap and I'm sure people are like,

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Speaker 3: But we could also get them to sweeten the pot.

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Speaker 3: This is I'm again amusing pro football focuses draft mock drafter.

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Speaker 3: We can the offer here right now, there's a seventy

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Speaker 2: To me, that's an easy one. However, I don't want

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: I'm interested in gathering premium picks because I want to

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Speaker 3: And we gave up George Pickens and the two hundred

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Now, do I want to slow this down in

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Speaker 3: Would you consider Samar Stewart there? No, I don't think

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Speaker 3: Now, do at this point do you want to trade

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Speaker 2: Right, I would consider that too, because I don't love

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Speaker 2: Cooper and Tyreek's age. No, I mean they're win now, guys. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: In the real world would be like I can't believe Hampton.

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Speaker 3: The Texans are on the phone. Okay, they're fifty seven.

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Speaker 2: Harmon and Alexander would both make me happy. Yeah, if

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Speaker 2: we use free agency for. So we could attack this problem.

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Speaker 2: I would mind consolidating picks with another trade. Okay, so

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just don't know what. I have no clue

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Speaker 3: I'm going to look here or their future fourth or

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Speaker 3: you know, we give them one sixty three for one

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Speaker 3: twenty five, that is a fifty nine percent chance, So

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Speaker 3: we'd be giving up fifty three one fourteen, one sixty

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Speaker 3: three for fifty seven eighty nine one twenty five. That

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Speaker 2: But what if we threw in another seventh and they

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Speaker 3: That's really dumping there that we would only have we'd

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Speaker 2: In the top one twenty five. I said, they're all

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Speaker 3: I don't know if they're I don't know if they're

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Speaker 3: for that Yeah, that's that same force forty chance.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna offer this and see what. Okay,

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Speaker 2: there we go. That worked, okay, all right, so we

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Speaker 2: moved back a little bit. Who did they take? They

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Speaker 2: moved up to get Jayden Higgins. Makes sense for them.

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Speaker 2: They didn't bad. Caleb Johnson just went, both of whom

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Speaker 2: would have been fine picks.

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Speaker 3: Gee, Hud Campbell just went the Bills are on the clock,

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Speaker 3: and the Bills take Dylan Samson.

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Speaker 2: So we got our d lineman.

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Speaker 3: So you want to take Derek Carmon there? Yeah, but

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Speaker 2: It's funny I had this exact dilemma. I just ran

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Speaker 2: in round two I had the choice between these two,

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Speaker 2: like I have Nolan ahead of both of them, but

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Speaker 2: I think all three of the.

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Speaker 3: Thing is we have a nose. Yeah, Alexander can do

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Speaker 3: some of that, yeah, but we don't need him to.

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Speaker 3: But Harmon is a true outside defensive you know, yeah,

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Speaker 3: defensive vent longer. Right. I love Alexander, but I feel

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Speaker 3: like I'm saying bad things about Alexander, but I'm not.

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Speaker 3: I just think Harmon might go in first round. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: all right, I'm gonna hit this. I'm gonna take Harmon.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna speed this thing up because we have our

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Speaker 3: next pick is in until eighty five. So we have

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Speaker 3: eighty five ninety eight. I'm sorry, eighty five, eighty nine

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Speaker 3: ninety eight. Yeah, and we've made plenty, We've made plenty

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Speaker 3: of trade. Let's take Harmon, all right, Gonna take Harmon there.

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Speaker 3: So we've taken two defensive linemen and I'm fine with that. Right,

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Speaker 3: things are flying here a little quicker.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, quarterback and running back I'm more apt to take

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Speaker 2: now than I would have. We're back up now at

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Speaker 2: eighty five.

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Speaker 3: The top guys available Dylan Gabriel, Marcus Imbau, Zerier, Thomas

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Speaker 3: Mason Taylor, Tess Johnson, Devin Neil, Trey Harris, Harold Fannon,

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Speaker 3: Dean Walker were done. In the defensive line, Yeah, no

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Speaker 3: space on the team. Tate Rtt legend guard out of Georgia,

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Speaker 3: Quen Darius Robinson, the edge rusher out of Alabama, Jaylen

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Speaker 3: Milroe quarterback out of Alabama, Andrew mccubo. Mccuba, I should

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Speaker 3: say the safety out of Texas, Mellow Dotson, Kansas cornerback.

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Speaker 3: R J. Harvey, halfback out of UCF Will Howard quarterback

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Speaker 3: out of Ohio State. Maybe Assin Gilette, edge rusher out

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Speaker 3: of Louisville, Jonas Sanker, safety out of Virginia. Kobe Bryant

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Speaker 3: the other cornerback out of Kansas, Jordan Phillips.

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Speaker 2: They were done at the J.

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Speaker 3: Gillmeis, Jalen Rivers, JJ Pegas were again done with that.

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Speaker 3: The wide receivers got picked over pretty well.

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Speaker 2: Then say there wasn't a ton and that you rattled

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Speaker 2: off twenty five names or something and there wasn't a

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Speaker 2: lot that jumped out of me.

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Speaker 3: People need to understand when you're when you're doing drafts

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Speaker 3: like this, there's not there's In reality, there's no difference.

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Speaker 3: There's not a ton of difference between the guy ranked

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Speaker 3: seventy second on these boards and the guy ranked one

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Speaker 3: hundred and fifth. Yeah, it might not show up in

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Speaker 3: the queue or whatever, of course.

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Speaker 2: Right, is there a position you want to hit?

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Speaker 3: Quarterback and running back? Quarter?

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Speaker 2: Running back? Yeah, wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: You're looking at Tes Johnson, Trey Harris, Jalen, Noel, Tory Horton,

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Speaker 3: Pat Bryant, Kobe Hudson, Kyle Williams.

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Speaker 2: I like Noel, I like Howard. Who's the best back?

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Speaker 2: That best back? So I'll get the ball a lot this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, your best back available is Devin Neil?

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Speaker 2: That your favorite? The ones so out there?

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Speaker 3: R J Harvey there, DJ Giddens at a K State,

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Speaker 3: Damian Martinez out of Miami.

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Speaker 2: We must pick again soon too.

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Speaker 3: Right, we've got three picks. We got eighty five, eighty

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Speaker 3: nine to ninety eight.

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Speaker 2: That's great. We're going to take the back Neil?

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Speaker 3: You want to take Neil?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, I mean if we're going, if we're giving

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Speaker 2: picks up for and and swapping out pickings for Hill

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Speaker 2: and Adam Cooper, we're trying to win now, Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: a running back helps me win out.

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Speaker 3: I don't mind taking an offensive tackle here.

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Speaker 2: I mean the other grant wouldn't break. Let's say we

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Speaker 2: have two of them again. You know those type of

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Speaker 2: dudes is certainly in the mix to me. But I

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Speaker 2: think we have to leave this draft with the tackle.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, do you want to take You want to go

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Speaker 3: quarterback here? You want to go running back or I'm sorry,

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Speaker 3: running backs off?

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Speaker 2: But uh, wide receiver, quarterback, wide receiver, corner tackle are

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Speaker 2: the ones I would all right, I'm gonna I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: eliminate everything else here.

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Speaker 3: So there was an awesome tight end I can't believe there.

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Speaker 3: Of course, wide receiver, offensive tackle. So you're looking at

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Speaker 3: what about corner cornerback? You're yeah, okay, you're looking at

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Speaker 3: Dylan Gabriel, Ted Johnson, Trey Harris, Jaylen Milroe, Mellow Dotson,

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Speaker 3: Will Howard, Kobe Bryant, two Kansas quarter cornerbacks, Riley Leonard,

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Speaker 3: and a there name Jalen Rivers, the top offensive tackle

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Speaker 3: on by their rank. He might be a guard though, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think he is. Brandon Crenshaw, Dickinson, Dixon. I should

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Speaker 3: say the tackle out of Florida, Jalen Noel is there?

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Speaker 3: Jackson Dart is there, Jacob Parrish at a cornerback out

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Speaker 3: of k State, Tory Horton, the wide receiver from Colorado State.

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Speaker 2: I think Dart's cheating. I don't think he'd last as long. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: if we're going to take a quarterback, I would say Howard.

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Speaker 2: I think Darton is cheating. Trey Harris really excites me too.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't have to play right now. I don't think

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Speaker 2: he's gonna run great. I think he's being slept on

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Speaker 2: a little bit. I think he's a really good player.

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Speaker 3: You take him here? Yeah, Okay, Trey Harris, wide receiver

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Speaker 3: at a Mississippi I'm a fan. Okay, we're back up again,

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Speaker 3: and a lot of the same guys still available here.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't a tackle that was I was hoping for.

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Speaker 2: But maybe I don't know enough about.

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Speaker 3: Chase Lunt is there, Emery Jones, Hemy Jones is enticing. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: would you take those guys over?

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Speaker 2: Howard at the quarterback position? Again?

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Speaker 3: You're you're starting to it's Milrow, It's Howard, Riley, Leonard Jackson,

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Speaker 3: Darts is still there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not going to happen. I would take Howard here.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, I mean I know, we love shock, but

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Speaker 2: Howard works for me?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 2: Will Howard did out of Ohio State. See what happens there,

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Speaker 2: especially if it's Wilson the starter, you know. Yeah, now

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Speaker 2: we are back up at one twenty one. You think

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Speaker 2: Wilson would like throwing to Tyree Hill? I think so, probably, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: probably so.

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Speaker 3: M A corner wouldn't break my heart. Top guys available,

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Speaker 3: saving on Jones, He had rushert of LSU. Jacob Parrish,

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Speaker 3: cornerback out of k State. Jack Kaiser, the linebacker of

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Speaker 3: Notre Dame. Josh Palmer, the defensive lineman. We can't do it,

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Speaker 3: you know, we can't do it. Love the player, but

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Speaker 3: we can't do it. Damian Martinez the running back out

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Speaker 3: of Miami. Again, love the player.

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Speaker 2: That's double dipping a little heavier than I want to there.

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Speaker 2: Zaia Alexander is here, the cornerback out of l Show.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I could live with that.

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Speaker 2: Chas Lunt is still there. Tell me more about Chase Lunt.

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Speaker 2: I just know the name. He's the the six.

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Speaker 3: Foot eight, three hundred and five pound guy. So he's

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Speaker 3: he's a tackle though, Yeah, he's developed developmental tackle. Sounds good.

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Speaker 3: I just don't know enough about the player. Is there

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Speaker 3: a tight end that you can't believe there? We only

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Speaker 3: have two picks left.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so I don't want to get shut out

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Speaker 3: Mitchell Evans? Is there from Notre Dame my bad player? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but that's largely getting picked over. I would probably go

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Speaker 3: cornerback first.

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Speaker 2: The LSU dude him? Or is Jacob Parrish out of casey?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't Yeah, it'd be I still think

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Speaker 2: you need to come out of this with a corner.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, Parish has been of course he plays

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Speaker 3: in a big twelve. But he saw seventy three targets

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Speaker 3: this year. He saw seventy last year. Last year he

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Speaker 3: had a much better year, only gave up two touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: He had four interceptions. This year. It was two touchdowns

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Speaker 3: and one interception. But the completion percentage isn't crazy that

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Speaker 3: he gave up. No, I'm a fan of him and

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Speaker 3: Alexander's a little bit bigger at six two one ninety four.

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Speaker 2: That might be more. I think I'd go Alexander. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and just uh yeah, this is what we want to

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Speaker 2: know the answer to. But he's more of his own corner.

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Speaker 2: But I would maybe even break this tie of who's

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Speaker 2: going to help me more on special teams? On week

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Speaker 2: one he signed a corner too exactly.

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Speaker 3: We could actually take a Nickel type guy here, I know,

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Speaker 3: I know, like I just look at like Quincy Riley.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Nickel wouldnt hurt. I mean right now, Blackman's are

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Speaker 2: Nickel or Murphy's kicking in and trice As are outside

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Speaker 2: or something along those lines. But another or Beanie, I

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Speaker 2: like any of those corners. Let's take a shot on Alexander. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I'll let you cornerback. Yeah yeah, And we have our

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Speaker 2: final pick now at one twenty five.

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Speaker 3: And the tackle would be fine. No lineman of any

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Speaker 2: Once is still there, Emery Jones is still there. I'm

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Speaker 2: or so, but I would take Emery Jones on a heartbeat,

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Speaker 2: not part of the draft.

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Speaker 3: He might be your starting gardening.

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Speaker 2: He might be Isaac's back up, yeah, you know, replacement

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Speaker 2: in a year or something like that. He might he

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Speaker 2: might be a tackle too. Yeah, all right.

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Speaker 3: Emory Jones Junior it is, and we are done with

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Speaker 3: this mock draft.

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Speaker 2: We ended up we wouldn't like it too much and

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Speaker 2: say this is too good to happen.

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Speaker 3: Well, when you move around, that's part of the part

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Speaker 3: of the beauty it is. So we ended up with

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Speaker 3: at pick eighty nine, Will Howard at pick ninety eight,

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Speaker 3: Isia Alexander at pick one twenty one, and Emory Jones

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Speaker 3: at picked one twenty five. And they can room together

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Speaker 3: since they're both Yeah, yeah, how about that. And by

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Speaker 3: the way, we picked up Tyreek Kill and Amari Cooper.

436
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Speaker 3: We signed on Maury Cooper yeah yeah, yeah, and Pickens left,

437
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Speaker 3: but we got I mean, our receiver room is very different.

438
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Speaker 3: We brought in three guys and shipped one out our.

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Speaker 3: The rest of the offense is semi similar. The line

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Speaker 3: room looks really encouraging for the future. Yeah, corner, you're

441
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Speaker 3: better at and you added another one to take a

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Speaker 3: flyer on. I bet you have a land in Roberts

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Speaker 3: or something like that. You look pretty strong up the middle. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: sign me up. Yeah, maybe Howard turns into a player. Yeah,

445
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Speaker 3: there's always that possibility. And again you when you have

446
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Speaker 3: that many picks early, you're more likely to hit Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

447
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Speaker 3: just you're taking more bites out of the apple.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this would be harder to pull off than it

449
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Speaker 2: was here yet, it's right, Tyre Hill. Trade is not sure. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and your cap would be affected by all this stuff too,

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Speaker 2: of course. But you're a better football team. Yeah, I

452
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Speaker 2: mean you sign me up for that and Hardby absolutely,

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Speaker 2: But let's get to a break. He is the Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 3: I am Dale Lolly and this is the Drive on

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Speaker 3: Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network. And we'll

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Speaker 3: be back with more right after this.

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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back.

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Speaker 3: I am Dale Lolly. He is the Matt Williamson and

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Speaker 3: this is the Drive on the Steelers Nation Radio on

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Speaker 3: the Steelers Audio Network. And you can course hear this

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Speaker 3: show every day on these very airways where he can

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Speaker 3: download the Steelers Mobile app and get it there, or

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Speaker 3: you can watch on YouTube. And you should check that

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Speaker 3: out no doubt, got Tevin Dandridge today getting it up

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Speaker 3: on the website there, making sure that that gets out

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Speaker 3: for everybody. And I'm at.

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Speaker 2: Friend of the show.

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Speaker 3: Jeremy Fowler has put out a little piece here on

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Speaker 3: the NFL's overhaul tiers. Who's contending and who is rebuilding?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and.

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Speaker 3: He has as still major contenders. The two teams in

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Speaker 3: this tier still major contenders, the Chiefs and the Eagles.

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Speaker 3: I agree with that.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing.

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Speaker 3: The Chiefs right now have five point one million.

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Speaker 2: Dollars in cap space.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they have needs they have made, They're got

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Speaker 3: major needs after this. Now.

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Speaker 2: They're still going to Patrick Mahomes, no question.

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Speaker 3: But as they showed it in the Super Bowl, if

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Speaker 3: they can't protect Patrick Mahomes, it might not be the

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Speaker 3: best thing in the world.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that though, of Kelsey, and I'm not

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Speaker 2: sure that's even a bad thing. I mean, you would

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Speaker 2: open up some cap space, and you know, at this

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Speaker 2: stage of his career, et cetera, et cetera. And I

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Speaker 2: don't know that the Chief's cap situation like the back

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Speaker 2: of my hand, but I'm sure you can borrow from

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Speaker 2: the Bank of ma Homes if you had to if needed.

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Speaker 2: But they need to address the offense. I mean, they

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Speaker 2: need a pass catcher or two, a running back maybe

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Speaker 2: and a lot of line.

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Speaker 3: Up maybe at least two offensive tackles. And they're going

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Speaker 3: to need a guard as.

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Speaker 2: Well, right, right right.

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Speaker 3: I'm not rolling back with Caliendo to replace Smith.

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Speaker 2: That was a diason. He's going back to left guard

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Speaker 2: and that's great, but at least a tackle and at

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Speaker 2: least a guard, probably three. And you know you're not

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Speaker 2: going to fix that in the draft.

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Speaker 3: Probably not.

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Speaker 2: Sue Amatia maybe takes a step forward, but he was

506
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Speaker 2: didn't show any signs of that as a rookie. You

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Speaker 2: knew he's a row player, but he's allowed to get

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Speaker 2: better to But no, I mean, but they're still a contender.

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Speaker 3: They're contender, righteah. I just don't know that they're a major,

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Speaker 3: major content. I mean they've shown that they are, yeah,

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Speaker 3: every year. And it's not that the Eagles don't have,

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Speaker 3: you know, less cap space. They get seven million dollars

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Speaker 3: and they've already maxed out the credit cards down in

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Speaker 3: the future.

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Speaker 2: We talked about that earlier in the week. And they're

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Speaker 2: gonna have some defections too. After that Super Bowl, you

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Speaker 2: think Williams and Sweat aren't gonna get paid and bond

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Speaker 2: And of course we knew they were all gonna get paid.

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Speaker 2: But I wouldn't have him in a tear by themselves. No,

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Speaker 2: the Bills and Ravens would be right there with me.

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Speaker 2: The Lions, you know, I mean, they're they're all this.

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Speaker 2: They had its equal shot to win the Super Bowl

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Speaker 2: as those other teams.

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Speaker 3: Those are the three teams he lists. Is being on

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Speaker 3: the cusp?

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Speaker 2: Those three I just mentioned.

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Speaker 3: Okay, the Ravens right now have three point six million

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Speaker 3: dollars in cap space. They're gonna have some defections. I

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Speaker 3: don't think Stanley's back. No, I don't think so either.

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Speaker 3: Right right, they're saying re signing Ronnie Stanley will be

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Speaker 3: a priority, But he's thirty one, and what do you

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Speaker 3: give him? He can't be you know more about his

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Speaker 3: medicals than anybody else. Right, you're not gonna give as

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Speaker 3: much as the Patriots are? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean to protect may that have unlimited funds.

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Speaker 3: And Mark Andrews is on there right now costing it

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Speaker 3: counts sixteen point nine million dollars against their cap Is

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Speaker 3: he a sixteen point nine million dollar cap hit kind

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Speaker 3: of player.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if you borrow from the back Lamar or

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Speaker 2: restructure at Andrews. I don't think they're trading or moving

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Speaker 2: on from Andrews. No, I don't think so either. They

543
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Speaker 2: probably would have to extend him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, he's not the most popular guy now, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and you know he's maybe he is a trade candidate,

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Speaker 3: get crazy, Yeah, maybe he is a trade candidate. The

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Speaker 3: Bills have minus seventeen point six million dollars in cap space, rough, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and I.

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Speaker 2: Don't think they have a lot that they're losing. Mary

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Speaker 2: Cooper we've brought up, but he wasn't a regular every

551
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Speaker 2: snap eighty catch guy from them either. And all these

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Speaker 2: teams picked late of course, right, this is always the

553
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Speaker 2: case with the top teams in the league.

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Speaker 3: The Lions have forty six point one million in cap space,

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Speaker 3: which sounds great. Yeah, but all their young guys are

556
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Speaker 3: going to be start coming up for all those ext gifts,

557
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Speaker 3: et cetera, et cetera. Drafted in the same area. There

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Speaker 3: at some points you are going to be extending Aiden Hutchinson,

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Speaker 3: Kirby Joseph. I could still see Miles Garrett ended up

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Speaker 3: in Detroit though potentially, you know, I mean, if you're

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Speaker 3: really going to push it in need a postseason breakthrough.

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Speaker 3: The Packers agreed the Vikings, and they're the only two

563
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Speaker 3: teams in that tier. And I don't think the Vikings

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Speaker 3: are going to be in that team. We broke the

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Speaker 3: Vikings down pretty heavy yesterday. I can't imagine they'll be

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Speaker 3: better next year than they were this year. Yeah, they're

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Speaker 3: fourteen and three this year that they right now kicked

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Speaker 3: their coverage this year and.

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Speaker 2: The last two games weren't pretty for them more Donald,

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Speaker 2: et cetera. But say what you want about Arnold knows

571
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Speaker 2: down three draft picks, an picks first round, and they

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Speaker 2: almost have to trade out a round one. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 2: just to fill some needs. Their defense is loaded with

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Speaker 2: free agents, the secondary is loaded with free the entire

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Speaker 2: secondaries heading for free agency. They get there saw back

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Speaker 2: from injury, but the O line could use help. And

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Speaker 2: you might be sorry, McCarthy, I think you will. He

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Speaker 2: might be fine, but I bet he doesn't have as

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Speaker 2: good as year as Donald. It's almost why I think

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Speaker 2: they're they almost hare Jones. They almost have to tag

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Speaker 2: and trade Sam Darnald.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but that just to recoup some of the and

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Speaker 3: the trade might not be well, you're gonna get two

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Speaker 3: first round piscks, you get a third or something, give it,

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Speaker 3: give us something for him, something because we don't have

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Speaker 3: any picks.

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00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and we got to replenish this roster. But

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Speaker 2: as you know, the problem is you tag him, he

589
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Speaker 2: eats up x amount.

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Speaker 3: Of caps race They well, they have fifty million, which

591
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Speaker 3: is good for that, which is fine right now, and

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Speaker 3: you eat up play half of that with the tag,

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Speaker 3: and whoever's going to trade for him is probably going

594
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Speaker 3: to or sign him, was probably gonna do it early

595
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Speaker 3: in free agency because they want to know.

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Speaker 2: You would have That's what I mean. The timing is

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Speaker 2: if the Raiders have been in touch with Arnold's agent,

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Speaker 2: they're going to sign them, okay, And Minnesota says, wait

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Speaker 2: a minute, we're gonna be a screen tag. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: we're gonna tag them, and.

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Speaker 3: Well, you can still have you at least give us

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Speaker 3: a two, right, I mean, but we're going to take

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Speaker 3: a little We're to wet our beat, you know, right, Okay,

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Speaker 3: but it has to happen quick in free agency. You

605
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Speaker 3: can't just sit on his contract, right, that'll be something

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Speaker 3: that's bang bang bang, the teetering contenders, the Bengals because

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Speaker 3: they have that quarterback. Yeah, I'm fine with it, but boy,

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Speaker 3: they need a lot. The Steelers, I don't. Yeah wait

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Speaker 3: a second, I thought they were the worst franchise in

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Speaker 3: the league.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that, why don't bother? Yeah, now they don't have

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Speaker 2: a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: This isn't saying that, And he says, yes, they do

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Speaker 3: need to fight. They deciding whether to sign right went

615
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Speaker 3: Russell Wilson or Justin Fields. Yeah, here's what he said.

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Speaker 3: The five game losing streak the end of twenty twenty

617
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Speaker 3: four campaign should prompt changes for a franchise that leans conservative.

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Speaker 3: Deciding whether to sign Russell Wilson, Justin Fields or an

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Speaker 3: alternative at quarterback should come into focus over the next month,

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Speaker 3: and it will. My sense is that Fields in Pittsburgh

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Speaker 3: are both opened to a new deal as long as

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Speaker 3: Fields gets a shot to be the full time starter. Okay,

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Speaker 3: everybody reports something different, that's gonna be Wilson's gonna be Field.

624
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Speaker 3: After that, Pittsburgh badly needs to reload the skill positions.

625
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Speaker 3: Last year's receiver group was inadequate. A decision looms on

626
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 3: free agent Najee Harris's future. Pittsburgh defense was uneven against

627
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Speaker 3: against the run, calling for reinforcements, and oh yeah TJ

628
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Speaker 3: wat is a twenty twenty six free agent.

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Speaker 2: But they have the watching something they'll do with the

630
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Speaker 2: training camp or whatever. Yeah, that's going to lower his

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Speaker 2: cap number for this yeah yeah, yeah, but I don't know,

632
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Speaker 2: maybe you do it now.

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Speaker 3: And even they've got about forty million dollars in cap

634
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Speaker 3: space and the ability to make eight draft picks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so they're teetering actually seven seventh pick. Yeah,

636
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Speaker 2: ESPN has a wrong for some reason, right they have

637
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Speaker 2: they have two seven, so they don't have a six. Yeah,

638
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Speaker 2: but everyone else's right. They have seven draft picks and

639
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Speaker 2: they're right there. They're probably not gonna get any right picks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So, I mean it's not the end of the

641
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Speaker 3: world here. They can read tool these other categories or worse. Yeah, right,

642
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 3: headed on the right track. So they're the only two

643
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Speaker 3: in that category in Houston's Houston, Okay, yeah, Houston's in

644
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 3: the same neighborhood. I mean, you love their quarterback situation,

645
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Speaker 3: you love since these quarterbacks, but Houston's also negative one

646
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Speaker 3: point three million in the cap space.

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Speaker 2: They push their chips in last year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't have cap space since he has forty

649
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Speaker 3: five point nine, but they gotta. They're actually gonna make

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Speaker 3: a lot more with defensive stuff, but Chase is gonna

651
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 3: eat up a lot and well maybe not this year,

652
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 3: but he's eat up some.

653
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to plan for the future. If they're

654
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 2: gonna if Higgins is going to be involved, there a time.

655
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 3: Jamar, Chase, Tre Henderson, t Higgins are gonna all want

656
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 3: new deals and maybe Chase the one's back, and then

657
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 3: you got replace the other two. Yeah, and you build

658
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 3: a defense and Chase is gonna want forty million dollars

659
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 3: and no. Burrow went on a show today and said, well,

660
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 3: you know it's real simple. He can just I'll restructure

661
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 3: my contract and you know it's just give me signing

662
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,239
Speaker 3: bonus and we'll lower my cont That's all sounds well

663
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 3: and good in theory. And people are like, wow, what

664
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 3: a great guy Joe Burrow is. Yeah, because they're gonna

665
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 3: write him a forty million dollar check at least, and

666
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 3: then sign these guys and give them forty million dollars

667
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 3: or more. And you know, here's hey, Jamar Chase, we're

668
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 3: gonna give you a four year, two hundred million dollar,

669
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 3: hundred and sixty five million dollar contract.

670
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 2: Here, we're gonna give you of a guarantee you.

671
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna here's what we're gonna sign a here's

672
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,719
Speaker 3: forty million dollar signing bonus for you, and you get

673
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 3: a forty million dollars. They can't do it for everybody

674
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 3: like those are every player Like when when players restructure

675
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 3: their deals, it's not a bad deal for the player.

676
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 2: No, they get a huge check.

677
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 3: If somebody came to me and said, Dale, we're gonna

678
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 3: give you what's your what you're expected to earn this year,

679
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 3: we need to we need to create some cap space

680
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 3: here on our whatever, our imaginary check every month. Yeah,

681
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 3: instead of getting a check every month, you're gonna We're

682
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 3: gonna give you a lump sum right now for what

683
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:34,479
Speaker 3: you're gonna earn this year.

684
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 2: You could buy a CD with it is if it's

685
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 2: nineteen forty or whatever. You can invest it. You could

686
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 2: do whatever you want. Do whatever I want because now

687
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 2: it's my money. I don't have to wait to get it.

688
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 3: And so, by the way, if you.

689
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 2: Went blind or never threw another touchdown and wrote another article,

690
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 2: you still.

691
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 3: Have that mistake.

692
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 2: The money's mine, right right, right, Yeah, Joe Burrow could

693
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 2: get hit by a truck. I hope he doesn't, but

694
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 2: you know, he's still getting that much. Could happen.

695
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 3: He could tear his acl again, and you're paying him

696
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 3: all that money for nothing, right.

697
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 2: Right, he gets hurt working out tomorrow and tears his

698
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 2: pack and never throws the ball in.

699
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 3: It sounds great in theory until you're the guy having

700
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 3: the right one hundred and forty. It's not a super

701
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 3: generous offer by Joe Burrow.

702
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 2: I mean good, I mean I'm glad that the bank

703
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 2: of Burrows open, just like we talked about with Lamar

704
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 2: and these other great quarterbacks. But it's no secret that

705
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 2: the Brown family who owns the Bengals, aren't the wealthiest

706
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 2: owners of the thirty two. They're gonna write it for

707
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 2: the a guaranteed check for Jamar franchise tags guaranteed if

708
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 2: they do Higgins. They just wrote sixty million to Borrow

709
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 2: to restructure. All of a sudden, the Brown family's down

710
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty million dollars that they had yesterday.

711
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 3: But yeah, okay, cake right right right, a cake, Yeah,

712
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 3: it's easy to do that with it when it's not

713
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 3: your money.

714
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 2: Right, headed on the right track. The Broncos agreed, they

715
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 2: found a quarterback, and they got a coach, and they

716
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 2: built the line of scrimmage. The Chargers, I think they're

717
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 2: heading on the right track because they have a ton

718
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 2: of cabs. They have seventy four million cab space. Last

719
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 2: year was there can't buy anything. Yeah, year, he's the

720
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 2: rams on the list for this and I love McVeigh.

721
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 3: I don't know they're I know they're headed on that

722
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:13,240
Speaker 3: in that same category. Because Matthew Stafford's thirty seven years old, it's.

723
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 2: More like holding on for dear life. Yeah, you know,

724
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 2: it doesn't mean they can't win a lot of games

725
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 2: or win their division this year.

726
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 3: In fact, they probably picked them to win that division.

727
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 2: They're young elsewhere.

728
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know they're going to have similar problems though.

729
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 3: And everybody thought, well, they had such a great hit

730
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:27,959
Speaker 3: on this pick, and they had a bunch of draft picks,

731
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 3: which we just did in ar mock draft. If you've

732
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 3: got eight of the top one hundred and twenty picks,

733
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 3: you're more likely to hit on some of those guys.

734
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 3: Of course, you know, by the way you had to

735
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 3: play them because you didn't have anybody else. So they're

736
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 3: going to have stats and therefore they you know, win

737
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 3: awards and that kind of stuff and make the All

738
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 3: rookie teams. Doesn't necessarily mean they're the best players at

739
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 3: their positions. In those drafts right right right there, they

740
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 3: had the opportunity, and then you got to pay them

741
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 3: all at the same time.

742
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 2: You might have to trade one of you guys you love, yeah,

743
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 2: after your two or three, just to prepare because they're

744
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 2: all coming up for you know, for contractor at the

745
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:04,879
Speaker 2: same time.

746
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, uh, and they're problem to have though that's

747
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 3: been drafted. Well, Tampa Bay is on that list. Yeah,

748
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 3: I don't know if I would include them on that list.

749
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 2: And here's why I'm really impressed with their front office though.

750
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 3: Levante David linebacker thirty five years old. Yeah, yeah, they

751
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 3: missed worse on there. Inside White was a bigger whiff, right,

752
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 3: I mean he was a fifth overall pick. Yeah.

753
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

754
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 3: Mike Williams is not getting any younger, Mike Evans or

755
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 3: Mike Evans said Mike Williams. Mike Evans isn't getting any younger.

756
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 3: You might lose Godwin this year, you only have six

757
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 3: point six million dollars in cap space.

758
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,439
Speaker 2: No, their defense needs a little work. I think they're

759
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 2: they also offense coordinator.

760
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 3: Again, again, I think they'd be a good team, and

761
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 3: they're probably they're still the best team in that division.

762
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I would still have them in the same

763
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 2: level as the Rams. Wherever you put the you know,

764
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 2: maybe that's a different category than those two should be

765
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 2: in their own, but they don't know the youth the

766
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 2: Rams do.

767
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, he also has the Seahawks in that tier. Seahawks

768
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,439
Speaker 3: are thirty one million dollars over the cap. They don't

769
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 3: have a veteran court.

770
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 2: They don't, they said without saying that they're gonna cut

771
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 2: lock it, which they all knew.

772
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 3: You know. DK metcalf is a thirty one point nine

773
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 3: million dollar cap hit for a team that is thirty

774
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 3: one million dollars over the Gino Smith is a forty

775
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 3: five point or forty four point five million dollar cap

776
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 3: hit who has a ten million dollars roster bonus due

777
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 3: on March sixteenth. Yeah, yeah, you're thirty one million dollars

778
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 3: over the cap. Gino might be a guy you could

779
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 3: pry away from that, and he's thirty four, and this

780
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 3: staff did not draft him an inheritor're not married to

781
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 3: him like the Rams. Though, if I were those teams

782
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 3: and consider trading my quarterback, I wish I would have

783
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 3: had ending Hooker.

784
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 2: I mean, at least something to use something they have.

785
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 3: Sam Howell is not.

786
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,280
Speaker 2: It's not right. It'd be nice to have a second

787
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 2: round pick in the waiting or something. Yeah, because I

788
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 2: don't want to have to trust this draft.

789
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:57,439
Speaker 3: The Commanders are in that group.

790
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 2: I agree with that.

791
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,240
Speaker 3: They got fifty nine wint one million dollars in cap space.

792
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 3: Their problem is they've also got like twenty nine half

793
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 3: their rosters up. Yeah, half their roster or unrestricted free agencies.

794
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 2: Not superstars, but half their rosters.

795
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 3: You gonna have to pay, you need to. You have

796
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 3: to sign fifteen guys in free agency just to keep

797
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 3: the status quo exactly, and maybe some of them might

798
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 3: be your own. But of course, teams stuck in the middle.

799
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:22,839
Speaker 3: But a move or two away.

800
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 2: And I'm sure he doesn't mean a move or two

801
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 2: away from being better than the Eagles. No, but yeah,

802
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 2: the Falcons their caps a mess too. They're twelve point

803
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 2: seven million dollars over the cap. Yeah, the Cowboys, they're

804
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 2: ten point four million dollars over the cap with a

805
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,439
Speaker 2: Parsons trade or a Parsons deal contra waiting waiting.

806
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 3: The Colts they have twenty seven point three million dollars

807
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 3: in cap space. But do they have a quarterback right right?

808
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:50,959
Speaker 3: Like I don't understand if you're going to talk about

809
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 3: and I understand the Steelers. The Steelers don't have a

810
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 3: quarterback right now.

811
00:37:55,239 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 2: They literally do not. Neither do the Colts. I mean,

812
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 2: I would be more comfortable if Richardson was on my

813
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 2: roster than not.

814
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 3: All right, If the Steelers had Richardson right now, he

815
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 3: would be comfort then I would still sign fields, right,

816
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,280
Speaker 3: that's what I done, what I'm saying.

817
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 2: But Richardson doesn't move the needle for me.

818
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 3: I would not draft any then, you know what I mean, right,

819
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 3: I would go with Richardson does not move the needle

820
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:22,439
Speaker 3: at all, not enough.

821
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 2: No, but it's better than having zero. The forty nine

822
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 2: Ers are in this group. Their their season could go

823
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 2: so twenty one.

824
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 3: Point six million dollars over the cap, and they've got

825
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 3: to they've got to resign their quarterback and it's going

826
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 3: to be a forty million dollars a year deal or more.

827
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 2: And he's not one of these quarterbacks where he was

828
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 2: eating up thirty million are cap and this year's only

829
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 2: going to be five. No, he's been eating up one

830
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 2: million of your cab because he was mister irrelevant. Yeah,

831
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 2: Debo's are be gone, and.

832
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 3: You know, stuck in quarterback purgatory teams. The Browns they

833
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 3: wish they have nothing, don't have a quarter right, The

834
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 3: Raiders neither one use have.

835
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're looking purgatory. To me, is being stuck with

836
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 2: Matt Jobs. Yeah, I mean, so we just define that different.

837
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 2: They don't have it. They're looking for their quarterbacks.

838
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 3: The teams that could go either way, the Cardinals, I

839
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 3: think they're trending the right direction. The Bears, I think

840
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 3: they're trending the right direction. The Dolphins, they're trending the

841
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 3: wrong direction. Yeah, new coach, new direction. When we know

842
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 3: these teams Jacksonville, the Saints and then rebuild in the works.

843
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 3: I don't know if i'd agree with the Carolina Panthers.

844
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 3: I think they're already working on.

845
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 2: The Yeah, I think they're going in the right direction

846
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 2: after going the wrong direction. The Tennessee Titans, they would

847
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 2: put them with the Raiders is who's our quarterback? Yeah?

848
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 2: The Giants, same thing.

849
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would have I almost said that a minute ago.

850
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 3: They would be right there in that Raider category. And

851
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 3: they're still rebuilding teams? Are the Patriots? The Jets should

852
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 3: be in that pretty much. Rather rebuild the patch then

853
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 3: they don't have they don't know their quarterbacks right right, right,

854
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 3: And that's it.

855
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 2: Okay, exeros for happen list.

856
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like, yes, the Steelers are not our list, right,

857
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 3: this is done by a national analyst.

858
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 2: Yes, the Steelers aren't as good a shape as the

859
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 2: Chiefs and Bills and Lions and agreed, But a lot

860
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 2: of those teams I would much rather be in the

861
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 2: Steelers shoes today than theirs, even the Titans with the

862
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,720
Speaker 2: first overall pick. I mean, it'd be different if Andrew

863
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 2: Luck was coming out like okay, well yeah, right right,

864
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 2: that's a little different.

865
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 3: That's a little different conversation to the overall pick. That's

866
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 3: not the reality of what's happening right now in the NFL, right,

867
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 3: this draft is not that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And a lot of those teams that need stuff

869
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Speaker 2: can't get them with the cap situle.

870
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Speaker 3: And the other thing that people don't think about is quarterbacks,

871
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 3: especially are staying in school. Everybody wants to say, well,

872
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 3: next year's you know, this guy's going to be available

873
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 3: on that. You don't know that because these guys are

874
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,760
Speaker 3: getting paid in college, they should stay. And it's pretty

875
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:57,399
Speaker 3: nice to be able to sit in college. And I'm

876
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 3: making five million dollars to hang out on a college campus.

877
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Speaker 2: Right and take ceramics and ballroom dancing and you know,

878
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 2: focus on football and yeah, sounds pretty good.

879
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I we'll just get arch banning next year.

880
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 3: Do you think everybody assumed Drew Aller was going to

881
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 3: be in this draft? Yeah, they said, no, Yeah, I'm good.

882
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go back to Pennst. I'm making Yeah, I'm

883
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 3: making all this money.

884
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 2: Why would I go up?

885
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Speaker 3: I'll make mess less money at the NFL level. That

886
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Speaker 3: being said, I bet next year's drafts better than this year's,

887
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Speaker 3: I would assure. So, yeah, yeah, this is your down

888
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 3: year for quarterback draft, especially it's the top. There's some

889
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 3: guys I like, but exactly, Yeah, but I'll go fish

890
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 3: on next year's class over this one. Absolutely, let's get

891
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 3: to a break. He is the Matt Williamson I am

892
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Speaker 3: Dale Lolly.

893
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Speaker 2: This is the Steelers.

894
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 3: This is the Drive on the Steelers Nation Radio on

895
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Speaker 3: the Steelers Audio Network. We'll be back to finish up

896
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Speaker 3: the show right after this.

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Speaker 2: At least.

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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back.

902
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:08,919
Speaker 3: I'm Dale Lolly. He is the Matt Williamson and Matt

903
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 3: looking here at some news and notes from around the league.

904
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Speaker 3: Bengals linebacker Jermaine Pratt, who's their team defensive captain. He's

905
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Speaker 3: requested a trade from the bank. Oh really, I didn't

906
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 3: see that.

907
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 2: Wow, I could see people jumping ship. I don't know

908
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 2: that Hendrickson's going to come back. I mean Burrows okay,

909
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 2: he's going to restructure, but is he there for the

910
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 2: long haul? I mean I could see. I said this

911
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 2: a couple months ago. I just see the foundation starting

912
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 2: to crumble.

913
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Speaker 3: Here's a question I would have asked when when he

914
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Speaker 3: starts talking about restructuring, Joe, if they say they want

915
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 3: you to restructure, but it's not to keep Higgins, yeah

916
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 3: right right, it's to build the defense.

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Speaker 2: Are you still on board with that?

918
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Speaker 3: Because that could be the conversation like, bit a second,

919
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 3: we want to sign four defensive starters and he says no,

920
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 3: but I want T Higgins. Right.

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Speaker 2: The other thing, if he restructures, he is in for

922
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 2: the long haul, right, Yeah, I mean that's that's a

923
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Speaker 2: different if he's thinking about getting out of there. Eh,

924
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Speaker 2: maybe I won't restructure, and athletes will always restructure.

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Speaker 3: He's not gonna if If that's the case, he's not

926
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Speaker 3: gonna worry about the cap hit down the road.

927
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Speaker 2: Well he's not, right, that's there, that's their problem. Yeah, right,

928
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Speaker 2: I don't know.

929
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Speaker 3: I I it's a tough situation.

930
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Speaker 2: I don't love where the Bengals are at.

931
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Speaker 3: I really don't. It's a tough situation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, uh.

934
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Speaker 2: I could see it getting worse before it gets better,

935
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Speaker 2: I guess, is the way i'd phrase that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, NFL dot Com has the top tackling it's tackling grades.

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Speaker 3: I should say this is based off next gen next

938
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Speaker 3: gen stats, which pff, Yeah, this is these are actual

939
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Speaker 3: measuring guys, you were in position to make the tackle,

940
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Speaker 3: did you make it or not? And the Steelers came

941
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Speaker 3: in fourth on this list. Yeah. Uh. The top teams

942
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Speaker 3: Kansas City Baltimore, Denver, Pittsburgh, and Detroit. The Eagles just

943
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Speaker 3: missed at six. None of those surprised me. And the

944
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Speaker 3: big thing I talked about going the Super Senior or

945
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Speaker 3: the Super Bowl to the best tackling defenses in the league,

946
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Speaker 3: it's a lost art. A lot of times you got

947
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Speaker 3: defend to run. Now with lighter boxes, it's harder to

948
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Speaker 3: practice tackling, and it's as important as ever. And these

949
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Speaker 3: offensive coordinators are great at finding this outside corner is

950
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 3: not a good tackler. I'm gonna run Dereck Henry Adam

951
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Speaker 3: over and over and over, you know what I mean.

952
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Speaker 3: Funny you mentioned that, because while they mentioned that Deshaun

953
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Speaker 3: Elliott and Minka Fitzpatrick were the best tackling safety duo

954
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Speaker 3: in the league.

955
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Speaker 2: That should surprise no one. I hope no one's really

956
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 2: come on, we're talking about those guys get it done,

957
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 2: They get it they get people on the ground.

958
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 3: Yeah. Dante Jackson, however, was credited with twelve missed tackles

959
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 3: for an extra one hundred and eleven yards. He's a

960
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Speaker 3: smaller guy.

961
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Speaker 2: He's a smaller guy.

962
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Speaker 3: But teams will find you. Yeah, teams will find you

963
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 3: on the field. And they will attack you. If that's the.

964
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Speaker 2: Case, I think Porter has gotten better over his career, yes,

965
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Speaker 2: and without question, and he's willing. And again, if you're

966
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Speaker 2: top five now and a guy that played a ton

967
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Speaker 2: of snaps for you, I know it's a corner. And

968
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Speaker 2: if somebody's gonna be a we tackler, it's going to

969
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Speaker 2: be a corner.

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Speaker 3: We know that. Of course, small smallest guys on the field.

971
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Speaker 2: Sometimes they're pushing dudes out of bounds or whatever. But

972
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Speaker 2: if that becomes an average tackler next year, whether it's

973
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Speaker 2: Murphy or Reed or who or a first round pick

974
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Speaker 2: or a second round pick or whatever, maybe you're the

975
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Speaker 2: second best tackling defense, right, you.

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Speaker 3: Know what I mean? Not only that, but if you

977
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Speaker 3: improve your nickel A big part of playing your nickel

978
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Speaker 3: corner is tackling, getting guys on the on the ground.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: One of the reasons why the Steelers have always they

981
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Speaker 3: for a lot of time, a lot a lot of

982
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Speaker 3: times they've had a rundown nickel corner and a passing

983
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 3: down nickel corner. Whether it's a different job, it is

984
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Speaker 3: a different job. Ideally like to have somebody Brian Branch

985
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,200
Speaker 3: who can do both sure, they.

986
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Speaker 2: Don't trees anymore. Everybody wants those guys. But again, like

987
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 2: the Blackman conversation we've had for the last two hours

988
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 2: or so, if he's your first down nickel slot corner,

989
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 2: well you're gonna be a better corner tackling team than Beanie. Yeah,

990
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 2: no question, No offense to Beanie, but it's not the

991
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 2: biggest guy. No, And I don't think he was a liability.

992
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 2: But I bet in year two Peyton Wilson's a better

993
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 2: tackler than he is in your ones, just because I

994
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 2: know what the league is getting used to it, right, right,

995
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 2: I know I heard twice and Lamar twice. Yeah, you

996
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 2: know right, So no, I think there's no where to

997
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 2: and Cam Hayward and Watt and those guys are exceptional

998
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 2: at it too. It's an easy thing to forget that,

999
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 2: oh that they're so good at the things that everybody sees,

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00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 2: the tackles for losses and the forced fumbles. But the

1001
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 2: fundamentals are there with those guys too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you have a bad day against Derreck Henry, but

1003
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 3: well this team can't tackle. Well, yeah, don't let Derrick

1004
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 3: Henry get rolling.

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Speaker 2: And that part of it is, I mean, he was

1006
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 2: running through big holes. Yeah, that's not bad tackling. That's

1007
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 2: holding your gap and you know in those games.

1008
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, again, which goes back to our conversation why

1009
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 3: you need defensive line help. Got to be better.

1010
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 2: But I don't think it's an accident that the five

1011
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 2: or six teams you mentioned the top of the league

1012
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 2: won a lot of games. Yeah, including the Super Bowl,

1013
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:56,919
Speaker 2: you know, two teams. Yeah, for sure.

1014
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 3: But Matt, that's going to do it for the show today.

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Speaker 3: All right, we will. We'll be back again tomorrow and uh,

1016
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Speaker 3: get closer and closer to the combine.

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Speaker 2: Can't wait for that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we got some big things coming up.

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00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:08,479
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, You've got all that stuff happening here. We'll start

1021
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Speaker 3: getting some franchise tag numbers here within the next few

1022
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Speaker 3: couple of weeks. We'll get the actual salary cap numbers

1023
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Speaker 3: that should be out here soon. I bet some receivers

1024
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 3: get traded. I bet some guys get.

1025
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Speaker 2: There'll be news almost every day, Yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 3: But for my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller here

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Speaker 3: on site running the Justin Miller hotline and the soundboard,

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Speaker 3: and for Tevin Dandridge making sure our video gets out

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Speaker 3: there onto YouTube.

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Speaker 2: I am Dale Lollie.

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Speaker 3: We thank you for listening to the Drive on the

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Speaker 3: Steelers Audio Network.