WEBVTT - “Walking Around the Room like a Cat” | Acting 0:00:01.520 --> 0:00:18.639 More, more Better, More, More Better, More. Welcome to More Better, 0:00:18.680 --> 0:00:20.440 a podcast where we stop pretending to have it all 0:00:20.480 --> 0:00:22.920 together and embrace the journey of becoming a little more 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:27.960 better every day, or at least trying to. That's Stephanie Beatrice, 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:31.200 and that's Melissa and Merrow. And this you know what 0:00:31.240 --> 0:00:35.720 this is because you've turned it on. It's you clicked it. Yeah, 0:00:35.760 --> 0:00:41.000 that's right, you clicked it on purpose that it's so 0:00:41.240 --> 0:00:49.200 rude you clicked it. Welcome back to the to the 0:00:49.360 --> 0:00:55.720 podcast where to absolutely non experts expertly guide you through 0:00:55.800 --> 0:01:00.600 our non expert advice. We're really us here to talk 0:01:00.640 --> 0:01:04.119 some ship. Yeah that's right ship. How you doing friend? 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:08.840 I'm okay, you know, just hanging in there. Just yeah, 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:16.320 hanged and haanging in there. More Better. So this week 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:19.280 on the pod, we're going to talk about, uh, we're 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:24.520 gonna talk about acting. It's about to get real nerdy, 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:29.320 real insidery, oral niche. Hopefully it's funny, but you know, 0:01:29.520 --> 0:01:32.560 we can't promise you that. I'm just gonna come out 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:36.080 straight and say that we cannot promise that this will 0:01:36.120 --> 0:01:39.280 be funny. We hope it is, but it might just 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:43.280 be super super nerdy and this is not all research 0:01:43.319 --> 0:01:46.080 that we haven't done. We've done this research because we 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:48.760 went to school for the ship. Yeah, we did yeah, 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:52.400 degrees in this Yeah. Well, I mean technically I don't 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:56.200 have my degree. I don't think. But it didn't did 0:01:56.200 --> 0:01:59.480 you not finish? Wait? Do I not know that I 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:05.920 fail a class? I failed a stage management class because 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:11.440 I can't management. Yes, we had to take everything, and 0:02:11.480 --> 0:02:14.000 I think, like, I think I may have my degree now, 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:17.200 like I think that they, Oh did you get an honorary? 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:22.400 I might listen, I fancy. I mean, I went through 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:26.400 the whole program. I did everything. I the only thing 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:30.040 that I like, haven't I think? I like I it 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:35.520 just listen. Organization. Organization wasn't my forte. When I was 0:02:35.560 --> 0:02:38.600 in college, I was a disaster on two legs. Like 0:02:38.800 --> 0:02:42.840 it was a mess. And now now I'm a different story. 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:45.120 I could chase that class with flying colors, but at 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:47.639 the time with their eyes closed at the time, well, 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:49.360 I don't know about that, but at the time I 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:53.520 was a mess. I just couldn't. It was like you 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:55.280 had to keep a binder and you had to keep 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:59.280 like cues and like I kept thinking, like what am 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:01.640 I ever going to this I'm never going to do. 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:03.040 That's what I was going to say. The fact that 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:07.320 they made stage management a requirement was in that same 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:11.040 clearer degree. But yeah, I a class, I'll take a test, 0:03:11.120 --> 0:03:13.679 but like the test was you that feels. 0:03:13.360 --> 0:03:16.120 Like an elective, That feels like an election telling me, 0:03:16.400 --> 0:03:17.160 I mean, I couldn't. 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:19.760 I couldn't believe it. I was like, what, I failed 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:24.280 this class and they were like, you did. Anyway, that 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:29.640 that is not a failed class does not mean anything 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:31.280 in the end. I mean, it might mean that you 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:34.200 don't have no but it means less if you're like, 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:36.560 I'm not trying to be a dentist, I'm just playing pretend. 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:38.280 So probably fine. 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:42.760 I think I think you've done okay for yourself despite 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:44.080 that stage management. 0:03:44.200 --> 0:03:47.360 I feel fine. I think you've done more than a fine. 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:50.280 But yes, What's what's really funny about this is that 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:52.560 this is the thing that we both love to do 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:55.440 so much. So this might go all over the place, 0:03:55.520 --> 0:04:00.320 but I do I do want to touch on stuff 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:03.480 that we like about it. So we're going to talk about, 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:06.560 you know, our experience getting into it a little bit bit. 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:08.640 But if you've listened to the pod or like know 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:10.600 us at all, Like we've talked a little bit about 0:04:10.600 --> 0:04:14.280 this already on the pod. We're going to talk about 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:19.280 stuff like different kinds of techniques that we like, our 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:25.960 actual training, if there's techniques that we don't like, performances 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:29.960 that we've seen, stuff like that, so and then like 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:33.560 how we prep. So if you're into that kind of stuff, 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:36.960 then yay. And if you're not, thank you so much 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:39.400 for joining us on the pod and we'll see next week. Okay, bye. 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:42.800 You know what I love too that we're talking about this. 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:45.480 I don't know if you've noticed this, but uh, and 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:48.640 because I've always been curious why, and I want to 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:52.359 know what you think. Have you ever noticed that, you know, 0:04:52.400 --> 0:04:56.080 they do these like actor round tables or like back 0:04:56.120 --> 0:04:57.800 in the day when there used to be like the 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:01.760 actors studio, which I used to fu love, which it 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:04.200 happened less on inside the actor's studio actually because they 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:07.000 would get pretty in depth and nerdy there, but like 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:11.760 this general kind of cageeness that actors have about their 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:15.800 like specific technique or like how they prep or like 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:19.440 what the things they do. Have you noticed this that 0:05:19.560 --> 0:05:21.360 like it's almost like and I don't know if it's 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:25.880 like gatekeeping or which I'm just like, there's so many 0:05:25.880 --> 0:05:28.920 different approaches and techniques, Like just because you talk about 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:30.520 one doesn't mean that like there's going to be this 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:32.880 influx of actors that are all of a sudden amazing, 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:35.680 like you know, or is it just like a self 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:41.239 consciousness Like I don't want to sound real stupid or that. Yeah, 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:43.159 I mean, but I just feel like actors get real 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:48.200 cagey when they are talking about technique or their approach, right. 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:51.240 Is it just me? Well, Okay, I have some thoughts. 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:54.000 I yes, I agree. I think there's like a certain 0:05:54.000 --> 0:06:01.920 amount of cageness that happens. I think acting is like uh, 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:04.240 I mean, it's when you break it down, it's like 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:07.200 playing pretend, like really really hard, you know, Like that's right. 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:09.960 It is also a hard thing to describe like exactly 0:06:09.960 --> 0:06:12.920 what you do. Yeah, that's it's very difficult. And some 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:16.080 people have gifts in some ways and and others have 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:19.560 gifts in other ways. And you know that's why sometimes 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:21.560 you watch something and you're like, God, this person is 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:24.240 so believable in this thing. And sometimes you watch something 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:26.760 and you're like, oh God, this person's so famous and 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:27.400 they got this. 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:30.479 Role and like yeah, and I don't know, you know, 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:34.760 so yeah, I think there's and there's so many like 0:06:34.880 --> 0:06:38.400 political things that go into casting, like you know, and 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:43.160 who you're, who your parents are, and you know how 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:45.800 old you are, how old you look like if you've 0:06:45.800 --> 0:06:48.600 had a baby, or you know what ethnicity you look. Yeah, 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:51.880 it's so it's there's so many bits. So, like I 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:58.600 think a lot of actors talking about acting sometimes I 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:01.840 think it's because we do play pretend, but we take 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:06.840 it so seriously. We take it so seriously that when 0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:09.960 we talk about it the way that we actually feel 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:13.360 about it, sometimes it sounds to people that don't really 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:16.440 understand what we're doing in that way, it sounds like, 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:19.320 what are you talking about? You're not like fucking oh. 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:22.960 Yeah, like get off your high hors, you're not all that. 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:27.000 You know, you're not saving lives, right, I'm not. You know, 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:30.440 you're not you're not doing any of that. So it 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:34.800 sounds it can sound like people are really full of themselves. Yeah, 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:37.560 that's true. So I think some actors just like avoid that, 0:07:37.680 --> 0:07:39.920 probably because there are pr people are like, don't talk 0:07:39.920 --> 0:07:43.360 about your process because people often sound fucking full of themselves. 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:48.920 So maybe that yeah, yeah, you're right, yeah, because I now, 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:52.640 as you said that, I like flash to like seeing 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:56.040 some actors that get like real into like talk and 0:07:56.080 --> 0:07:59.760 they do kind of get this like tone in their void. 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:01.840 Well do that, you know, and then it's. 0:08:01.720 --> 0:08:05.200 Just like, oh my god, shut up are yeah, and 0:08:05.320 --> 0:08:08.120 like that's real, Like I'm sorry. In advance, if we 0:08:08.320 --> 0:08:10.920 cut to five minutes from now, we're like, so I 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:13.000 just like need to put myself in this frame of 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:18.440 men and then I transcend and the work flows through 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:20.720 my body and onto the screen channel. 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:23.440 Well, yeah, cut to five minutes from now. I mean 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:25.680 that's a hard thing about talking about it because it 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:31.400 is such an ephemeral you know, it's like it's like 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:34.319 dust in the wind a little bit. 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:36.920 Yeah, you know, it's like dust and it's like this 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:39.160 mystical little thing that you're always chasing. 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:44.520 Yeah, yeah, I think. I mean, I don't know what's 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:47.320 the first what's the first performance that you ever saw 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:51.960 that you were like, holy shit, m holy fucking shit, 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:54.520 where you where you could delineate and my own I'm 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:57.240 gonna be really specific about this, okay, where you could 0:08:57.280 --> 0:09:00.960 delineate as a kid, you were like, oh that since acting, 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:05.320 and they're really good at it I have not not 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:07.680 like yeah, okay, okay, I want to hear I have one. 0:09:08.200 --> 0:09:14.080 Claire Dans my so called life. She was thirteen or 0:09:14.120 --> 0:09:15.720 fourteen when she did that show. 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:17.120 She was wow. 0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:20.080 Yes, And that was the thing when I found out 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:22.280 how old she was, because I think I was around 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:25.920 the same age, and she was so good on that show, 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:28.200 and then she did Little Women shortly after. 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:30.760 Oh my god, she's so good in Little Women. 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:35.040 And she's she's a teenager and Little Women, and there 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:40.360 was something about like like not even being aware that 0:09:40.480 --> 0:09:44.600 like someone that young could do that, and then it 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:46.960 kind of sparking I think something in me of like 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:50.560 could like almost giving me permission to like, oh, you 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:51.000 can be. 0:09:51.480 --> 0:09:54.400 Great at something at this age. 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:57.640 Like maybe I just always quantified things as like you 0:09:57.720 --> 0:10:00.240 need time and experience in training and and then at 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:04.719 a certain point you're good. But like this idea that 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:08.199 maybe you have a certain level of talent or and 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:10.720 you can train at any age and like be grat 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:13.800 at a thing. She was so phenomenal in that show 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:17.280 and in that movie that those two performances, and she 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:19.719 was so young. It was really her age and her 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:23.320 youth that like struck me. Yeah, of just like the 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:28.079 pot like that it was even possible, Like yeah, and. 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:32.160 Yeah, it just that's cool. What about you? I mean 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:36.680 when you bring up Claar Danes, I remember seeing Romeo 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:40.120 and Juliet bos Lehrman's Romeo and Juliet at sixteen. In 0:10:40.200 --> 0:10:43.520 Romeo and Juliet, I think she's so young family, but 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:49.760 the whole cast phenomenal. That's another one, so youthful, so phenomenal. 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:54.400 Like I think by that time I kind of understood 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:56.760 that acting. I was like, oh, this is a job 0:10:56.800 --> 0:11:00.480 that you could do, right, but like when this is 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:04.160 slightly embarrassing, but like Tom Hanks and Forrest Gump, oh 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:05.360 my god, that was another one. 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:08.000 Tom Hank saw that in the theater those years where 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:11.040 it was like Forrest Gump Philadelphia, Like he just had 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:15.839 this one of these movies where he was like incredible 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:21.040 and so fucking different in every single role. Oh. I 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:23.360 remember going to one of my college auditions and like 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:25.560 they asked me about an actor that I looked up to, 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:28.520 and I was like, I was like nervous about how 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:30.160 it was going to be received because at that point 0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:31.920 he was still like it was like when he was 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:32.720 doing those movies. 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:34.839 But Prior to that, he was known as a comedy actor. 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:37.959 Yea, And I loved all his comedies, Oh my god, 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:41.439 all his comedies Turner and Huge, Splash, like big, all 0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:44.720 of those iconic and so I remember I was like 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:46.400 nervous to say, and I was. 0:11:46.360 --> 0:11:49.760 Like, well, I don't know, uh, you know, this is 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:52.120 a good one. But like, I really love Tom Hanks. 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:56.079 I think he's amazing and like so different in all 0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:56.840 his roles. 0:11:56.960 --> 0:12:00.679 And then they kind of like Tom Hanks but like 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:03.800 but like his hit, I feel like it was like 0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:06.960 early yeah, yeah, you know what I mean, Like, yeah, it. 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:10.720 Was like maybe just Philadelphia and Forrest Gump had come 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:14.320 out by that whomeint Yeah, I mean that was the 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:17.720 first time that I remember openly. 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:21.640 Weeping in a movie. Yes, and also at the same 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:24.760 time thinking, this is what I want to do for people. 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:29.839 I want to people. I want people to feel stuff. Yeah, 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:33.600 I want people to feel stuff and like be able 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:36.200 to feel stuff because of the thing that I do. 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:41.920 And I didn't exactly know what that meant, but I 0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:45.400 think elements of that are still what I feel about acting. 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:49.000 It's like some people, you know, that's why we go 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:50.400 to the movies. I think why we go to the 0:12:50.400 --> 0:12:52.440 movies where we watch TV is like we want to 0:12:52.600 --> 0:12:58.760 have an experience. Yeah, and sometimes that experience is like 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:04.560 comfort and closeness, and sometimes that experience is joy and fun. 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:09.679 And sometimes that experience is like a repetition of some 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:13.120 like comforting feeling that we had as kids. And sometimes 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:15.560 that experience is like I'm going to go on a 0:13:15.679 --> 0:13:18.360 fucking ride and I don't know what's gonna happen after, 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:21.400 and you know, and all of those things are like 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:26.680 they are the experience of diving into a story, and like, 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:28.400 that's what I want to do. I want to be 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:31.840 in things that feel so real that people were like, whoo, 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:35.560 yeah that was crazy. That ride was crazy. You know. Yeah, 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:37.600 that ride was so fun. I want to go back 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:41.679 on that ride. You know. That's yeah. That that movie. 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:45.080 Wo that movie. I mean I still remember. So we 0:13:45.120 --> 0:13:46.720 were sitting in the middle of the theater and I 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:49.200 was like sobbing and my sister was like stop. 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:55.120 It also one of the best, one of the best 0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:58.479 movie soundtracks of all time. Oh my god, so beautiful 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:01.160 all time. I used to play it NonStop. 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:01.920 So that. 0:14:04.640 --> 0:14:08.439 But also the instrument yes, like the score of that 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:12.040 movie gorgeous, is gorgeous, gorgeous? 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:18.400 Bang on a song here? I still remember it. When 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:21.120 did you start? You Like, I think we've talked about 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:23.520 this before, so you can give a condensed version of this, 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:24.040 but like. 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:27.640 Yeah, I guess I kind of technically started kind of young. 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:31.080 I started as a dancer, as I've said, going to 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:33.440 dance classes, and then I followed a dance teacher to 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:37.120 this dance in theater school where they had acting classes 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:40.080 and musical comedy classes. The musical comedy class was like 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:42.120 the popular one that a lot of the kids did, 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:47.600 and I think that was And so I was like, 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:49.640 when did I start with a musical comedy? 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:51.600 Like nine or ten? Thank god? 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:55.760 And I just fell in love with it because it 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:58.120 was it was singing and it was dancing, and it 0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:03.920 was un was comedy. I didn't. I wasn't like super 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:06.600 plugged into the fact that it was comedy, you know. 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:10.800 I just liked getting laughs. And then it was you know, 0:15:10.840 --> 0:15:13.600 and then it was like drama too, sometimes like depending 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:16.440 on but we would do basically musical scenes from different 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:21.400 Broadway shows and or movie musicals, and uh, and I 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:24.640 loved it. I was like obsessed. And then yeah, I 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:29.000 started taking more acting classes from there, and what about you. 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:34.520 It was junior high like public school, you know, theater 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:36.880 and more like a speech in debate class, and then 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:39.480 they did like plays every year and so like it 0:15:39.560 --> 0:15:42.360 was starting to get my fee in that way and 0:15:42.400 --> 0:15:45.600 like going, ooh, that's fun, you know, like yeah, turning 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:49.320 disappearing into somebody else. Yeah, it was My main thing 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:53.440 was like nobody knows it's me, you know, I get 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:56.880 to be somebody totally different, somebody that's like so much 0:15:56.880 --> 0:16:00.320 more confident than me, yeah, or like yeah, or really 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:05.120 silly and just so so like expressions of self that 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:08.880 were just so different. But I did Little Women in 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:12.600 high school. I was Joe and that was a big 0:16:12.680 --> 0:16:14.880 deal for me. It was such a big deal. It 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:19.760 was so fun and just thrilling, exciting, you know. I 0:16:19.800 --> 0:16:21.840 had a little wig. It looked really good. 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:25.960 My first play in high school was I'm trying to 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:28.440 remember which one, but it was a Neil Simon play. 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:34.760 Not Neil Simon in high school. Yeah, oh my god, 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:39.600 I can't remember which one it was. But it was good. 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:43.600 It was funny, dang, you know. But at that time, 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:47.600 I don't think I really understood anything about technique really. 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:50.120 I mean, we were kind of learning things in class, 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:53.520 but it was, like I said, it was public school. 0:16:53.520 --> 0:16:56.200 It was more like just you just like throw yourself 0:16:56.200 --> 0:17:00.760 at it and kind of see what sticks. So it 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:03.480 was really just on instinct. It was just like what 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:06.520 do I think instinctually that might be right, you know, 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:08.879 And it was mostly like learning lines and like figuring 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:12.280 out where you stand on the stage. It wasn't any 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:17.040 like I didn't have any like technical stuff yet. It 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:20.480 was all I was working solely on instincts, solely on 0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:24.120 instinct until probably senior year of high school, and then 0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:27.119 maybe I like read something, you know, like maybe we 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:29.959 did like some exercise or something. But I really didn't 0:17:30.000 --> 0:17:36.359 have any like training training other than just trying stuff, 0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:36.879 you know. 0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:40.320 Yeah, yeah, kind I mean I think there was I 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:45.240 got a basic introduction to technique through the dance and 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:47.359 theater school I attended, and then in high school the 0:17:47.440 --> 0:17:51.080 drama club. The drama teacher was like I think, you know, 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:52.439 he used to be an actor and he went to 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:56.119 theater school, and so I remember having a basic knowledge 0:17:56.119 --> 0:18:00.200 of like what's your action verb in the scene, and 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:03.879 what's your intention at the start of the scene. 0:18:03.640 --> 0:18:06.480 And or what's your moment before. 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:10.600 Like these kind of I think overall kind of things 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:13.080 because when I got to college, I definitely was mostly 0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:16.679 working off instinct, but I did have like a basic 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:21.640 vocabulary for like how you know the acting one oh one? Right, 0:18:21.840 --> 0:18:24.520 like who's your character and what are you trying to 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:25.280 do in the scene? 0:18:25.920 --> 0:18:29.480 And like, yeah, I feel like I have memories of. 0:18:30.920 --> 0:18:33.520 One of my teachers, you know, if they would stop 0:18:33.520 --> 0:18:34.880 a scene being like what are you trying to do? 0:18:35.240 --> 0:18:37.080 What are you? What are you doing? Oh? I didn't 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:38.120 have that until college. 0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:40.040 Yeah, we didn't, and then in college it got like 0:18:40.160 --> 0:18:44.200 much more specific, but like yeah, like knowing that, oh 0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:46.919 I should I should have a verb when I go 0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:49.960 into a scene like in my mind and my god, 0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:50.680 you know. 0:18:50.760 --> 0:18:52.359 I wish I had, you know, I wish I had 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:54.560 right now, I wish I had my like notebook from 0:18:54.840 --> 0:18:59.840 I had this teacher in college, Rob Rasnowski. He was phenomenal, phenomenal, 0:19:00.960 --> 0:19:03.720 and he had us. He had a class that was 0:19:03.760 --> 0:19:06.760 like acting one oh one. Basically it was like acting 0:19:06.760 --> 0:19:09.159 one on one, one on two, I think for the semesters, 0:19:09.200 --> 0:19:11.840 and it was like how to break down a scene? 0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:14.160 Who are you in the scene? What do you want 0:19:14.200 --> 0:19:16.879 from the other person in the scene? How what is 0:19:16.880 --> 0:19:17.359 the verb? 0:19:17.880 --> 0:19:17.960 Like? 0:19:18.200 --> 0:19:21.080 Where what you know? It was the first time that 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:24.359 I ever ever was taught like you can look at 0:19:24.359 --> 0:19:27.719 the script and like look at everything anybody says about 0:19:27.720 --> 0:19:30.720 your character. You can look at this script and see 0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:33.640 like what the actions are around your care what your 0:19:33.720 --> 0:19:37.200 character's doing, Like what do people say about your character? 0:19:37.240 --> 0:19:39.439 What do people not say about your character? Where is 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:42.040 your character when different scenes are taking place? Like it 0:19:42.119 --> 0:19:45.119 was all about like how to take like mine the 0:19:45.520 --> 0:19:50.840 actual written words for what all thea that the script gives. Yes, Yeah, 0:19:50.920 --> 0:19:52.760 it was the first time that I ever was like 0:19:52.840 --> 0:19:55.680 this is the map. This is the map, and then 0:19:55.760 --> 0:19:57.960 you can build on the map. But this is the 0:19:58.000 --> 0:20:01.359 map for the thing, right. It was like so exciting 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:06.520 to learn that. I still remember doing scenes from that 0:20:06.640 --> 0:20:09.120 clot because first we'd break it down and we would 0:20:09.160 --> 0:20:12.080 like highlight the scripts and like show you know, show 0:20:12.160 --> 0:20:15.199 different you know, ten highlighters and you're highlighting like what 0:20:15.320 --> 0:20:17.960 the different things are, and like showing you a little 0:20:18.440 --> 0:20:20.520 you know, key to your map and like this is 0:20:20.560 --> 0:20:22.440 your action words and these are the these are things 0:20:22.480 --> 0:20:23.920 other people say about you, and these are things you 0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:25.639 say about yourself and this is what you want, this 0:20:25.720 --> 0:20:28.280 is what you're hiding, and blah blah blah. And then 0:20:28.800 --> 0:20:31.560 he had us team up with someone in the class 0:20:31.600 --> 0:20:34.399 and do the scene. Like he assigned us all different characters, 0:20:34.400 --> 0:20:36.560 and then we would do the scenes with another person 0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:39.720 who had been assigned the other character in the scene. 0:20:39.760 --> 0:20:41.479 And it was like one of the first times I 0:20:41.520 --> 0:20:44.760 remember things like clicking for me in a way that 0:20:44.960 --> 0:20:48.280 wasn't about necessarily, like, ooh, this person is just like me. 0:20:48.359 --> 0:20:51.159 This character that I'm playing, I understand completely. It's like oheah, 0:20:51.200 --> 0:20:53.800 I learned more about the character and now I can 0:20:53.840 --> 0:20:56.159 play them in a way that feels real to me 0:20:56.720 --> 0:21:02.560 in the scenes. Yes, Rob Oh, great teacher. Great teacher. 0:21:02.640 --> 0:21:05.399 Teacher Rob. He was also one of the first teachers 0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:07.600 that was like, you got to bring yourself to the 0:21:07.640 --> 0:21:10.439 things that you do. Like h I would riff and 0:21:10.480 --> 0:21:15.200 do my mom's very thick accent, her Bolivian accent. I 0:21:15.200 --> 0:21:17.040 would riff and do it all the time in class. 0:21:17.080 --> 0:21:20.160 And then he made me audition for something hot Old Baltimore. 0:21:20.960 --> 0:21:24.040 He made me audition for it and do the accent 0:21:24.880 --> 0:21:26.720 for the character. He was like, no, I want you 0:21:26.760 --> 0:21:28.639 to read the scenes of the accent. I was like, uh, 0:21:28.680 --> 0:21:30.440 I don't think so, and he was like, I want 0:21:30.440 --> 0:21:31.720 you to read the scenes of the accent. And it 0:21:31.800 --> 0:21:35.560 was like the whole the whole scene like blossom. Yeah, 0:21:35.600 --> 0:21:37.480 and the character blossomed. And that was one of my 0:21:37.480 --> 0:21:39.879 first roles in college, was hot Old Baltimore. Was like 0:21:40.560 --> 0:21:43.000 it just like burst out of me. It was so fun. 0:21:43.480 --> 0:21:45.760 Oh oh, I love that. 0:21:46.400 --> 0:21:59.320 Yeah, let's talk about exercises that acting teachers have made 0:21:59.359 --> 0:21:59.640 us too. 0:21:59.800 --> 0:22:02.920 Hey, I hate it so much. This is the thing 0:22:03.000 --> 0:22:07.000 that I really struggle with. This because we've talked about 0:22:07.000 --> 0:22:09.639 this on the pod. I don't I struggle with like 0:22:10.080 --> 0:22:12.879 stupid shit, you know. And some days I'm just like, 0:22:13.040 --> 0:22:15.919 I don't know how walking around in the room like 0:22:15.920 --> 0:22:19.280 a cat is gonna serve what we're doing here. I 0:22:19.359 --> 0:22:23.240 don't understand how, And maybe it is just to shake 0:22:23.280 --> 0:22:26.399