1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Our daughter blew her two hundred thousand dollars college fund 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: on the shopping mall. 3 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 2: Should I give her my retirement? 4 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: That's a lot of handbagged and American girl dolls. Listen, 5 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 1: you gotta get a lot of Gucci. 6 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 3: Gotta get that Gucci, and then you gotta have your 7 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 3: American girl doll also get Gucci. 8 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: Right, yeah, we need to have the American gold where's 9 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: their praduct, Louis Ormez. 10 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, one hundred thousand a microphole collection. 11 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 3: You gotta have the ones from like the Wild West, yep, 12 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 3: gotta have the ones from nineteen twenties. 13 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 2: New York Ufo vibes, you know what I mean? Alien 14 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 2: American girls. 15 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: And we can't be caught with our American girl dolls 16 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: in last seasons. 17 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 2: No, no, we could never. 18 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 3: There's also an American girl doll store store in the 19 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 3: Grove in LA and I kind of want to have 20 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 3: tea over there. 21 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: Honestly, it would probably be a pretty nice time, I think, 22 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: so we could. Maybe we can convince them to let 23 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: us do an episode so with our Americans America. 24 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 2: Hey, listen, ladies. 25 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 3: Anyone knows anyone that American girl doll that would want 26 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 3: to sponsor us doing your show. 27 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're open to it. We'll do it. We'll get 28 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 2: we'll get dolls that represent us. It'll be great. Okay, 29 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 2: do they have American boy dolls? They don't. Those misogynistic animals. 30 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 2: My god. 31 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: So I am stuck between a rock and a hard place, 32 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: and I don't know what to do. The problem is 33 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 1: I can't discuss it with anyone I'm close to for 34 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: privacy reasons. 35 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 3: I love like for privacy reasons that I just blasted 36 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,559 Speaker 3: to the internet, right, Like, then. 37 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 2: Don't share this to like everyone on the internet. Please. 38 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: I've been with my wife Andrea forty eight female, and 39 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: my stepdaughter Cassie, seventeen female for eight years now. I 40 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: love them both to death. But Cassie is a very 41 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: bright young woman. I like how he says, but usually 42 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: it's like, I love both Antie's really smart. I love 43 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: both of but she's really smart. 44 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 2: She's a smarty pants herd and I hate it. 45 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 1: Recognizing her potential, me and Andrea decided to put together 46 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: a college fund for Cassie so she wouldn't be crushed 47 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: by death. Over the years, it amounted to over two 48 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars. I mean a good amount. That is 49 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: a really like they did a good years. That's four 50 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: years most do for you. You can make that work 51 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: for sure. 52 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, unless you're going to like USC when it's like 53 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 3: it's like seventy to ninety thousand dollars a year. 54 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: True, but at least I mean a massive you know, yeah, 55 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: I mean you see you're chilling. Yeah, USC seventy ninety 56 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: k huh a year. 57 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 58 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 3: UCLA was fifteen k a year and just intuition and 59 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 3: then another like fifteen K year in housing. 60 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 2: I mean, sorry, USC, you don't get it from me. 61 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 2: Nahh uh. University has spoiled children. That's all right, that's 62 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 2: the that's funny. 63 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: Now Cassie is aware of this fund and is banking 64 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: on it since she's trying to get into. 65 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 2: The Ivy League. Good for you, which is expensive. That's 66 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 2: a stroke. 67 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: To make a long story short, Last week I found 68 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: out that almost one hundred and seventy thousand dollars of 69 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: the money was missing from the account. 70 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 3: How do you one day just find that out? Don't 71 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 3: you get like notifications maybe like. 72 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 1: In a notification if I mean did she I mean, 73 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: I can't imagine her purchases were that little. I feel 74 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: like you would like run out of space, like in 75 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: your room for like person, because unless it's just like food, 76 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: and but like that's. 77 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 3: A lot, a lot of food. It's a lot of stuff. 78 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 3: It's like a lobster door dash every day, literally five 79 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 3: times a day. 80 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: I freaked the f out and asked Andrea if she 81 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: knew anything about it. She teared up and said that 82 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: she had been spending money over the years to fund 83 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: her spending habit. 84 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 2: What is she spending on? Bro Dang? I was furious, 85 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 2: but I had a moment of clarity. 86 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: I browsed these subs enough to know that there was 87 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: an affair possible, so I asked if she was having one. Wait, wait, 88 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: so this is the wife. This is the wife spending 89 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: the money. 90 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 2: She spent her daughter's college tuition on. 91 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: And here's the craziest thing. This guy is like the stepfather. 92 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: This is her like blood daughter. 93 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 2: That is so selfish. Isn't that insane? That is so selfish? 94 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 2: I mean, she knew she was getting. 95 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: Get caught at some point, right, I don't know, My god, 96 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: my goodness, red flag. 97 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 98 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: She adamantly denied cheating and offered any proof that I 99 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: needed social media accounts, emails, her work phone, everything she 100 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: offered to show me. 101 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 2: The receipts as well. 102 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: There was nothing that popped out of suspicious and the 103 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: math from the receipts added up. 104 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: So I let that go. But what what is she buying? 105 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 2: You can return that? Literally? 106 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 3: Was he not suspicious when like all these bags that 107 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 3: are super expensive turned up? 108 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, like had to be all, here's my new Gucci sweater, 109 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: here's my new bag, here's my new and it's like, 110 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: I want to know what she bought. I want to 111 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: know what she buyt I'm also dying to know. But 112 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: we still had the major problem of the money being 113 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 1: gone facts. She described herself as a shopping addict, and 114 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: the money from Cassie's account was just too tempting not 115 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 1: to use. Oh she didn't make any excuses and offered 116 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:49,679 Speaker 1: no solutions. God perfect, thank you thanks. As stated before, 117 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: I was beyond furious. She ruined Cassie's chances at going 118 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: to college debt free and changed the trajectory of her 119 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: whole life. I asked her to stay with her sister 120 00:04:58,120 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: while I tried to figure this out. Now I stepped 121 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: on our Cassie was concerned about why she was leaving, 122 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: but we said we just needed a little bit of space. 123 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 2: I mean, I could see, like, what would you think 124 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 2: if that happened? 125 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 3: I'm curious everybody, like my parents are fighting, maybe there's 126 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 3: some cheating. 127 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: Like it's very bad, and it's hard to say something 128 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: is worse, but like I feel like she'll dive down 129 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: this wormhole of all. 130 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,599 Speaker 3: I feel like she'll think it's worse than it is. Yeah, yeah, 131 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 3: even though it's already pretty bad. Yeah yeah, yeah, it's terrible. 132 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: I asked Andrea to come back home yesterday and we 133 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: had an extremely long discussion about how to handle this. 134 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: She stopped me from talking and asked a favor of me. 135 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 2: I don't know if you're in the position. 136 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 3: I feel like maybe the one hundred and fifty grand 137 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 3: that you spent would be the favor enough. 138 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 2: The favor was, could you spot me a thousand for 139 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 2: this new bag? 140 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: Just just She asked if I could take the fall 141 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 1: for her? Why that is what you're saying. You get 142 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: all the Gucci bags and none of the blame. 143 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 2: You get out Scott Free. 144 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: Where's my Gucci bag? Hey, I'll get I'm wearing your 145 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: Gucci bags. Now my feet going to be in these heels, 146 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: long heels and red bottom. You get the Gucci baggage 147 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: and I get the baggage. 148 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 4: Roa. 149 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 2: Literally, that's not fair. 150 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: For context, Her and Cassie don't get along well for 151 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: a variety of reasons, and knowing how independent Cassie is, 152 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,239 Speaker 1: she will probably leave right after college, if not during. 153 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: In fact, me and Cassie get along very well and 154 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: she comes to me for a lot of her issues. 155 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: Andrea fears that this will permanently drive Cassie away and 156 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: she doesn't want to lose her. I told her that 157 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: before we even talk about that, she needed to acknowledge 158 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: her mistake and own it. She needed to go to 159 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: individual therapy, we needed couples counseling, and she needed to 160 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: find a chopaholic support group, and that I would be 161 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: controlling the finances from now on. 162 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 2: She said that those terms were steep, but fair. 163 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 3: I don't know if those are, Steve not. Really, it's 164 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 3: a terrible thing that she just asked for that. Oh yeah, 165 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 3: I don't think that makes sense. 166 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 2: You can't hit him with a double waybie, my goodness, 167 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 2: because that doesn't hold her accountable exactly. So what's she 168 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 2: gonna do? Do it again? It needs to be consequences. 169 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: I said she needed to tell Cassie what she did, 170 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: apologize and hope for the best. She refused and said 171 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: she would never lose Cassie. She said that I could 172 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: survive the mistake, but she couldn't. 173 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 2: Dude, this is so fucked. 174 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 3: I mean, but like then, it's like your relationship with 175 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 3: your daughter is based on a lie, you know, like, 176 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 3: are you really ready to lie to your daughter? She's 177 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 3: gonna be able to put two and two together. 178 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: But the worst part about the whole thing is that 179 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: Cassie's life is ruined either way. Man, and I don't 180 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: know how to replenish the money other than by borrowing 181 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: from my four oh one k Reddit Do you have 182 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: any suggestions? Divorce is always an option, but I love 183 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: Andrea despite her mistakes, and me dating at age fifty 184 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: two is next to impossible. 185 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 2: I gotta ask y'all, like, what do you do? 186 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 5: Like? 187 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 2: What can you do? 188 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 5: Right? 189 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 2: I mean? 190 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 3: I mean, like, I don't think Op should lie for 191 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,119 Speaker 3: his wife. If the daughter's going to get into Ivy 192 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 3: League school, then she's like a smart person. Yeah, she 193 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 3: could probably figure out what's going on that Lie isn't 194 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 3: going to do anything but make it worse. 195 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 2: When it comes out, and it'll come out. 196 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 3: And then she's just gonna not trust her mom more so. Honestly, 197 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 3: in the long run, I think actually does more damage. 198 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's such a good point, more damage. I don't think. 199 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 3: It doesn't sound like divorce necessarily needs to be on 200 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 3: the table, but I do think, like, like managing all 201 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 3: the finances makes sense. 202 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: Everything he said the couples that like just to get 203 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: everything covered because it's also like, is the shop is 204 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: the chopaholic thing like indicative of something else? 205 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 2: Like I don't know, Like it's basically. 206 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: Let's let's cover all the bases because this is this 207 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 1: is such a huge. 208 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 3: So actionable too. He's like, Hey, this is what we're 209 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 3: gonna do with reasonable, right. 210 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 2: We like it. We like it. 211 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 3: I mean the person that loses out is just Cassie, 212 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 3: you know, screwed either way. Sorry, yeah, but hey, at 213 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 3: least if she's getting an Ivy League education, she's gonna 214 00:08:58,600 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 3: make something out of it. 215 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 2: Here. 216 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 3: Let's hope there's silver lining. Silver lining is she doesn't 217 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 3: get into any of the ivs. Okay, Okay, she gets 218 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 3: into the UC's becomes a stripper and then pays off 219 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 3: her school, or she gets a scholarship he for stripping. Yes, yeah, oh, 220 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 3: the stripping scholarships are very Oh they're very good, very lucrative. 221 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 3: I saw a billboard on the way to Vegas that said, 222 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 3: now hiring the class of like twenty like twenty nineteen 223 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 3: or something, or twenty twenty two. Bro Stop, Yeah, it's 224 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 3: crazy hiring them, right advice Cravy, the recruit, the high school. 225 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 3: The stripper pipeline in Vegas is in Vegas. 226 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 2: Edit. 227 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: After everyone here knocks some sense to me, I realized 228 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: I can't lie to Cassie. I love her too much 229 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: and she deserves the absolute truth though matter how ugly 230 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: or hard it is. 231 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 2: I agree. I agree. 232 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: I will be talking to Andrea and telling her that 233 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 1: we need to tell the truth together as a condition 234 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: of us staying together, or else I will initiate divorce 235 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: proceedings and tell Cassie anyways. Also, as someone suggested, I 236 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: don't need her trying to flip the script on me, 237 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: so all recorder interaction's going forward. 238 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 2: That's right. 239 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: What if she goes to Cassie and said that he 240 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,719 Speaker 1: spent the money first. At number two, I want to 241 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: thank everyone here for really opening my eyes yesterday. You're 242 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: all right, I need to put Cassie first, And like 243 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 1: I said, I'll be telling the absolute truth. Even if 244 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: she gets mad at me and disowns me, at least 245 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: I'll know I did the right thing. In addition, I'm 246 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: going to pay for her college myself. Wow, so he's still. 247 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 2: Going to do it. 248 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 1: I can pull money from a couple of places, such 249 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 1: as my retirement and inheritance, so I'll be okay. If 250 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: I have to live a little frugally during retirement and 251 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: work a few extra years, then so be it. Cassie 252 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: is worth it. Oh, I love that. That really touches me. 253 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 2: Honestly, he is such a good guy. Yeah, and like 254 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 2: for like, and you know, I mean that. 255 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,319 Speaker 1: I'm sure he believes that's his that is his daughter, right, 256 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: But to do that for not only his non biological daughter, 257 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: and you know maybe. 258 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 2: I mean essentially doing the opposite of what his wife 259 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 2: does literally and her her biological mom. 260 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: Like, come on, dude, I honestly doubt that her mother 261 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: is going to sell her stuff. 262 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 2: So that's why I'm taking this route, which is so 263 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 2: like you have mom is not gonna that should be 264 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 2: a condition one hundred percent? Yeah, are you kidding? 265 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: On a trillion percent? She cannot keep a single thing, 266 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: not a single thing. Wow, that is so in fact 267 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: that she won't sacrifice that for her daughter and he 268 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: will so telling she said he would work a few 269 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: extra years and be frugal, alliment all of retirement. For that, 270 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 1: I mean, Opie is definitely out of her league. As 271 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: for Andrea, I've been criticized for wanting to let Andrea 272 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: off the hook, so to speak. But it's easy to 273 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: say when really deep feelings aren't involved. That being said, 274 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: I don't think I can stay with her. 275 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 2: Wow, oh what? Oh no, he's letting letting her go. 276 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, this is a really big character especially 277 00:11:58,040 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 3: if she's not wanting to give it up. 278 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the thing. 279 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 1: If she if she completely owned up to it's like, okay, 280 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 1: we can maybe work forward from this. But if she's 281 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: just showing she wouldn't admit to it, she won't sell 282 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: the bags. Yeah, Like she's saying his additions were steep, 283 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 1: but it's like they were not at all. 284 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 2: Like criticizing it, No, no, no, I think that makes sense. 285 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: I I mean Yeah, what she did is horrendous and 286 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: ruined our daughter's future for her addiction. We had a 287 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: long discussion late last night and I threatened divorce unless 288 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: she told Cassie the truth. She begged me not to 289 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: do this, but I put my foot down and eventually 290 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: she agreed, but only if I agreed not to divorce 291 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: and I helped prepare their relationship. I likely won't be 292 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: doing either. She made her bed so she can sleep 293 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 1: in it. So if I have an update, I'll probably 294 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: just make a whole new post. Thank you so much, Sam, 295 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: there's one final, one final up. 296 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 3: I think I think get divorced. I think so money's 297 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 3: on divorce. Yeah, I think in this case, if she 298 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 3: wasn't willing to, I think, actually the Shapahalic stuff is forgivable. 299 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 2: It's like, hey, I'm an attic, Like I'm sorry. Yeah. 300 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 3: What's not forgivable is not selling the items that you bought. Yes, 301 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 3: that that's like, and wanting to put the blame on him. Yeah, 302 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 3: those that's non negotiable. 303 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. Let us know what you think, 304 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 2: though there's a lot of other out there, but let. 305 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:17,959 Speaker 1: Us know youthing, But your bets in right, now divorce 306 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: or not in the comments, and then we'll see at 307 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: the end. I want to start this by thanking everyone 308 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: who applied to my original post. You all showed me 309 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: tough love, and I appreciate that. I even appreciate those 310 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: who are calling me a doormat because, like I said 311 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 1: in previous posts, it woke me up. 312 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 2: I will not be staying with Andrea. Wow. 313 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: She lied and manipulated me and Cassie for far too 314 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: long for me to stay with her. The fact that 315 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: she stole from me, Cassie, and Cassie's grandparents makes this 316 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: as close to unforgivable as it gets. The most wronged 317 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: party here is Cassie. She has an amazing future ahead 318 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: of her and are refused to let her future go 319 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 1: to waste because my wife made selfish choices. But I mean, 320 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, you gotta let us know what you 321 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: think in here. 322 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 2: I mean, dude, yeah, ye know, in the commons? 323 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: What would you do if you're if I'm curious most 324 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: what people think from Cassie's POV, like, what would you. 325 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 3: Do as someone to you who like you thought you 326 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 3: had this money for college and then it's just like 327 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 3: your own. 328 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: Mom, Yeah, like takes from this fund that's supposed to 329 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 1: be for you. I mean that's not only is like 330 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: the marriage gone, but it's like that relationship is. 331 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 3: I think i'd be see It's like I think i'd 332 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 3: be pretty pissed. I'm just thinking, like my parents helped 333 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 3: me pay They helped me pay like half of my tuition, 334 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 3: because then I would I would have been saddled with 335 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 3: like maybe sixty thousand of debt. 336 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 2: Otherwise, yeah, around that. 337 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 3: Maybe no, maybe maybe less, maybe like thirty thousand, thirty 338 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 3: to sixty thousand. Anyway, it would have been like a 339 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 3: lot for definitely, yeah, come out of college. Absolutely, not 340 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 3: as much as some people, some people like I know, 341 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 3: I know a friend that's like one hundred twenty thousand 342 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 3: rand college debt. But I think I would knowing that 343 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 3: that would have been taken away and then also having 344 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 3: to pay it every month until it's paid off. I 345 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 3: feel that it would be part of me that would 346 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 3: resent that person. Yep, I think I think it would 347 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 3: be really really hard, Like eventually I would get over it. 348 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 3: I would I still want to have a relationship with 349 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 3: that parent, but yeah, I so much work. 350 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 2: It would need to be done. Yeah, to repair that relation. 351 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's rough, it's rough. I think OP is 352 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 3: doing the exact right thing. 353 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 2: OP. 354 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: Honestly, OP is the angel. Can we give it up 355 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: for OP angel status? Angel status? We don't give that 356 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: away often, that's right, But let us know what you think. Also, 357 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: let us know if like you've ever had the situation 358 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: of your concerns or maybe you have a kid that 359 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: you're saving up or college, like, you know, has this 360 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: ever happened to you? Also, like, how much are you 361 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: guys like saving up for college or have has so 362 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: anyone saved up money for college for you? 363 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 2: Yeah? 364 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 3: Curious if people have college funds in general? 365 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 2: Well that we'll see soon. 366 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 3: Let's start this one more time before the Internet gods 367 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 3: decided that they would punish us and. 368 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: Destroy everything we've worked so hard for. Can you introduce yourselves. 369 00:15:58,920 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 2: My name is. 370 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 6: Gosh, my name is Erica, and my name is Christian. 371 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 5: And we are the judges. We host an internet podcast 372 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 5: show where we read stories online, we laugh at people, 373 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 5: and most importantly, we judge them. 374 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 3: Wow clause, that was great. I love the synchronicity. 375 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: We have no synchronicity. We're too we're too uh wild cowboys. 376 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 2: What it is. 377 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 3: Off arounds exactly at the same time into each other. 378 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 5: Now we got five cowboys. You know what? 379 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 2: This is a real welcome to the rodeo. Yeah, welcome, welcome. 380 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 1: But I'm thinking, uh, if you guys, do you guys 381 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: want to start off with a story or do you 382 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: have one ready to go? 383 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:49,479 Speaker 2: Or we could start. 384 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 5: Erica started off? Started off all right, Erica's always got 385 00:16:55,720 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 5: the craziest, most juiciest I'm excited, no pressure. 386 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 4: But is this because it doesn't have to be just 387 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 4: am on the assholes? 388 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 2: Right, it's counthing. 389 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 4: Okay, good because mine is from a relationship underscore advice. 390 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 4: My twenty eight female husband thirty male gets on dating 391 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 4: apps whenever he's mad at me, and it is affecting 392 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 4: my mental health and he won't stop. My husband and 393 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 4: I have been married for half a year. Every time 394 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 4: he's mad at me, he gets on dating apps until 395 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 4: he forgives me. Until recently, it had been manageable because 396 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 4: he would only stay mad for one or two days. Lately, 397 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 4: he's been mad at me for a month. Forced me 398 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 4: to look at his dating profile and the girls he 399 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 4: is messaging. 400 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,120 Speaker 1: Oh my god, man's browsing man, and also, like, one 401 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: month out of sixty. 402 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 4: Six, it has made me so anxious, scared and jealous. 403 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 4: I'm feeling insecure and like I'm not good enough. Telling 404 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 4: him how I feel doesn't work because he says I 405 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 4: deserve it. How seriously should I view this? His threats 406 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 4: to replace me? Is he just angry or is he 407 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 4: for real? This is really affecting me, and my boss 408 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 4: has noticed I'm not concentrating as well. 409 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 2: Works. 410 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 6: I think you just need to replace him. 411 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the replacement that needs to happen. 412 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: She'd be like, We'll come over here, look at the 413 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: guys I'm swiping on. You want to fight fire with 414 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: fire if the house is burning down anyway. 415 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 5: Match with him on a fake account, catfish your own 416 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 5: husband back into your life. 417 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 1: This is actually the plot of a Do you like Pinoclatas? 418 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 4: There is no hope for this relationship. 419 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say break up. 420 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 6: Can you imagine being together for six months and for 421 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 6: an entire month? That's a long time. How do you 422 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 6: not think like we should do something about. 423 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 5: Maybe she did something that kind of makes her deserve it. 424 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 5: Maybe she was on a dating app for a month, 425 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 5: and in retaliation, he's the one using the fire on 426 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 5: the burning down house, and she just wants us all 427 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 5: to get on her side. 428 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 4: I mean, there is definitely two sides to every story. 429 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 4: But Joshua, shut up. 430 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 6: You're right, josh not all men, not all men. 431 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: Josh I do have a question for you all. Is 432 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: he more of an a hole if he does it 433 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: in her face or is it behind her back? 434 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 5: The face part is definitely adding to it. 435 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 3: I think heels like it doesn't. I feel like it 436 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 3: makes him. It's like it's like, you know, I'm I'm 437 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 3: being honest about my intentions. But I think the real 438 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 3: reason he's he's sticking around is he I don't know 439 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 3: if he's getting any matches, Like maybe he's just swiping up. 440 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 2: But man doesn't have any matches. 441 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 4: I hope he doesn't. 442 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 6: The hinge is not doing him any y. 443 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 5: Yeah, technic, but it's only been five months because like 444 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 5: the sixth month, I wasn't really present, so like it's 445 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 5: really easy to get out. I can get it annulled. 446 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: That's his first message to every single match. 447 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 2: That's why mats. I can get it in old though. 448 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 2: For you, baby, I'll know my marriage. 449 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 4: The whole story is a big yikes. 450 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 3: Bikes, Yeah, eleven out of ten yikes. Okay, I think 451 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 3: that's uh. I think we can. 452 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: We'll we could end it there if you guys are down. 453 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah cool, Okay, I'm gonnack h