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Speaker 1: We are officially four full weeks into the NFL season

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Speaker 1: and our friend Jeffrey Chadia is already weeding out the field.

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Speaker 1: He'll be here with some thoughts on who's a contender,

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Speaker 2: They can help you get over the hump.

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Speaker 1: Welcome inside with the Insiders, presented by Progressive Insurance alongside

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Speaker 1: Mike Garret. Follow I am Tom Peliserra Week four now

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Speaker 2: You're two days away from week.

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Speaker 1: Five of some updates on that forty nine Ers Rams game,

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Speaker 1: but we begin with the big injury from Monday Night,

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Speaker 1: that is two Dolphin Star wide receiver Tyreek Hill you

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Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill did indeed undergo surgery. It is now complete.

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Speaker 5: What was the mood, Tom, It was one of the

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Speaker 7: I've been around this team for years.

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Speaker 5: And Tyreek is always the guy that's bringing the competitive juice,

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Speaker 2: You said, ye do see what y'all want?

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Speaker 6: Why do you think.

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Speaker 8: Just giving up man a lot of flags on the

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna put it the simplest way possible. We've

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Speaker 2: What's going on?

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Speaker 9: Well, last night, Jake Browning couldn't get to his third

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Speaker 6: They couldn't get the ball down the field.

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Speaker 9: I mean, you know, Jamar Chase had five catches for

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Speaker 6: Run those routs.

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Speaker 9: Jamar Chase talked about where the down the field passing team, Well,

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Speaker 9: I don't believe right now, Tom that there is a

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Speaker 1: Now that Bengals defense does not exactly turn things around

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Speaker 1: because you don't go out and pay Jamar Chase is

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Speaker 2: To be a fall off.

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Speaker 1: But now when they're struggling this bad everything kind of

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Speaker 4: I know exactly what you're talking about. Is that sideline

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Speaker 4: little bit more than this right here before we go, Like,

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Speaker 4: whoa look at the sideline interaction between a frustrated wide

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Speaker 4: Of Course he's going to be upset. Of Course he's pissed.

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Speaker 4: Of Course they're trying to fail.

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Speaker 10: Like there's been so many.

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Speaker 4: Of these this year's just been blown out of proportion.

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Speaker 4: I know there was one with Jalen Hurtz and Kevin

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Speaker 10: Like, what is this interactional about?

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Speaker 4: When you're losing this badly for the second straight week,

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Speaker 10: This is fine.

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Speaker 4: This is a competitive guy talking to his head coach

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Speaker 10: A way to win.

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Speaker 4: Now, if it's behind the scenes and you've got Jamar

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Speaker 4: little bit of different story. And I believe the Bengals

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Speaker 4: Potentially could salvage this thing if you get better quarterback

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Speaker 4: player're just not getting it right now.

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Speaker 2: And Baldy real quick before we let you go here.

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Speaker 1: Scale of one to ten, you've seen a lot of

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Speaker 6: Oh no, no, that's how you do the diva ranks

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Speaker 6: right there. That's just like, hey, have you forgotten about me? Coach?

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Speaker 9: Like that's what it looked like. Like, I'm still ware

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Speaker 9: You're like, maybe maybe Max protect and just let me

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Speaker 9: was pretty call, pretty call. I mean, I mean just

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Speaker 4: He has got his Contenders and Pretenders article up on

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Speaker 4: NFL dot com. See it's contenders pretended to sort of

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Speaker 4: rhymes right, like, either your contender and you're meant to

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Speaker 11: You know. I've been on the Bears all off season.

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Speaker 6: And I have to take a pretender here.

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Speaker 11: I just feel like it's going to take a little

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Speaker 6: So I'm going to go with pretender here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And they got a lot of those division games

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Speaker 6: Not out there. Yeah, they got by.

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Speaker 11: We could go with Marcus Mariota, but man, give up

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Speaker 6: This team is built to score points.

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Speaker 11: That offense gets right, they will be right.

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Speaker 7: They go through me.

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Speaker 11: You don't have your starting quarterback, and I know Carson

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Speaker 11: This was tough for me because they are an intriguing

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Speaker 4: that that carries over after this little extended mini buye

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Speaker 4: that they had before. I say big bye to Jeffrey Chidea.

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Speaker 4: Don't forget to check out NFL dot com first read

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Speaker 4: to check out his entire Contenders and Pretender's article There,

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Speaker 4: Jeffrey Todea, thank you very much. You are always a

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Speaker 4: contender when it comes to the Insiders. The Wolf of

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Speaker 4: Ball Street is up next. That's Wolf with an E

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Speaker 4: at the end. His name is Cameron Wolf and he

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Speaker 4: is coming up and talk Browns quarterbacks the up and

447
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Speaker 4: down season. Michael Pennix is happing so far and so

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Speaker 4: much more. Next on The Insiders.

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Speaker 1: New Power rankings are out from Eric Edholm over at

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Speaker 1: NFL Eagles, the defending champs still on top of some

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Speaker 1: movement out up with Seahawks pop it into the.

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Speaker 2: Top five for the first time.

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Speaker 1: Go to NFL dot Com slash Power rankings for the

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Speaker 1: full list. Right now, it's time here for the Wolf

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Speaker 1: of Ball Street.

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Speaker 2: That's right our camera and wolf.

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Speaker 1: Who does not just cover the Dolphins even though he's

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Speaker 1: down there in South Florida. He is one of the

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Speaker 1: most connected reporters we have cam. What's on your mind?

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Speaker 2: What are you hearing right now around the NFL?

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Speaker 5: Well, Tom, let's start the Wolf of Ball Street in

462
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Speaker 5: Cleveland where a change may be coming soon at quarterback.

463
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Speaker 5: I talk with a source who had a good pulse

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Speaker 5: of this situation who said it it won't be much

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Speaker 5: longer that Joe Flacco is the quarterback, and the expectation

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Speaker 5: is Dylan Gabriel will get that shot, maybe even as

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Speaker 5: soon as this week. Versus the Vikings, the Browns have

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Speaker 5: kept the mum on this situation. Obviously there's a competitive

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Speaker 5: advantage of not letting the Vikings know what you're gonna do,

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Speaker 5: whether this week or next week. They've seen the struggles

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Speaker 5: of this offense of Joe Flacco, and there is an

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Speaker 5: onus to get these rookies going. I spoke with Andrew Berry,

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Speaker 5: the Browns general manager, during camp, and he talked about

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Speaker 5: the timeline being their own and not everyone else's.

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Speaker 7: That timeline may be soon.

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Speaker 5: Ownership has made clear that they want to see the

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Speaker 5: rookies at some point. The Browns are the second worst

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Speaker 5: offensive football They're one in three, and as one source

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Speaker 5: told me, no one in Cleveland makes any big decision

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Speaker 5: solo without ownership. Next, let's go to Philadelphia. Oh so,

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Speaker 5: let's sorry, let's go to Atlanta actually, where the Falcons

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Speaker 5: had a bounce back week four, led by Michael Pennix.

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Speaker 5: I got a chance to talk to Raheem Moorris this week.

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Speaker 5: He told me that, look, this Michael Pennix is the

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Speaker 5: real one, not.

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Speaker 7: The one we saw last week. He also told me

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Speaker 7: that this is the.

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Speaker 5: Guy who is so poisoning, his approach, so a poise.

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Speaker 7: In what we see out there on the field.

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Speaker 5: And he said that his message to Michael Pennix going

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Speaker 5: into the bye week is that you prep for a

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Speaker 5: long haul, because we're going to be in this for

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Speaker 5: the fight. Michael Pennix had the pleasure of also having

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Speaker 5: Zach Robinson, their offensive coordinator, be on the sidelines for

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Speaker 5: the first game this season, and ultimately he played with confidence,

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Speaker 5: with speed on a level that we hadn't seen so far.

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Speaker 5: This season, and as far as Bjeon Robinson, who bought

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Speaker 5: out Rae Morris, said he's the best player for football,

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Speaker 5: and people took a sception of that. He looked like

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Speaker 5: it this past week. And finally, the Philadelphia Eagles, who

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Speaker 5: a lot of people are talking about AJ Brown and

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Speaker 5: what he is or is not getting, Let's talk about

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Speaker 5: the defensive backs. They may be the most best tackling

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Speaker 5: group in football, starting with Cooper Dejean and Quinnyon Mitchell.

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Speaker 7: I talk with their dB.

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Speaker 5: Coaches, Christian Parker and Joe Casper. They say they do

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Speaker 5: tackling drills regularly. They said that every week the offense

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Speaker 5: and defense both does them. Casper said he does drills

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Speaker 5: with his group where they tackle him. And in a

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Speaker 5: league where tackling is a lost art, the Eagles have

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Speaker 5: brought the physicality and the speed that we have seen

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Speaker 5: them play well with all season. And as I finished

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Speaker 5: this ball Street, I got my daughter we wrestling this

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Speaker 5: entire report, and she just came back from dance and

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Speaker 5: decided to make her own appearance in the Wall Street.

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Speaker 5: So forgive me if I was trying to, you know,

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Speaker 5: figure out which team was next, because I was trying

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Speaker 5: to figure out how to keep my daughter off camera.

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Speaker 1: The Wolves of ball Street right there, Cam's got all

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Speaker 1: the goods, just doesn't have a lock on his door,

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Mike.

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Speaker 4: They find a way to get through the locks as well.

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Speaker 4: They just they get they get in.

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Speaker 11: Uh.

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Speaker 4: The Jets, Yeah, the zero to four started for the

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Speaker 4: first time since twenty twenty. I'm hearing from plenty of

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Speaker 4: my Jet fan friends, same old Jets. Actually, some of

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Speaker 4: them think that they're worse off right now. Eron Glenn,

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Speaker 4: the head coach who preached cleaning up the mistakes and

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Speaker 4: yet team has not been able to do that, had

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Speaker 4: a night to sleep on it, or probably not sleep

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Speaker 4: on it. Here's what he had to say on Tuesday.

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Speaker 12: We cannot turn over the ball and expect to win

534
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Speaker 12: those games. We have to continue to emphasize taking the

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Speaker 12: ball away again. There are a number of things we

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Speaker 12: can look at when it comes to the reason we lost,

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Speaker 12: but that's the thing. For the most point, when you

538
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Speaker 12: look at it, is the key that we lost that game.

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Speaker 4: So ball to get on in here. Because I didn't

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Speaker 4: expect the Jets to be a playoff contender this year,

541
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Speaker 4: its first year on their head coach. That's fine, you

542
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Speaker 4: don't even put that on them anyway. But this looks bad.

543
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Speaker 4: Like this looks really and especially, like I said, some

544
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Speaker 4: of the stuff Aaron Glenn's been talking about all summer,

545
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Speaker 4: they're just doing week in and week out. How do

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Speaker 4: you assess this.

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Speaker 9: Well, I mean, we were out there, you know, in

548
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Speaker 9: Flora Park to summer Mike, and you know, Aaron Glenn

549
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Speaker 9: had officials out there at every practice. They didn't have

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Speaker 9: it here before. They budgeted the officials. They wanted to

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Speaker 9: clean it up. But last night, you know, we saw

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Speaker 9: illegal shifts, we saw pre snap motion, we saw a

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Speaker 9: delay of game, all the stuff that we saw a

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Speaker 9: year ago.

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Speaker 6: You know, we saw a lot of bad football.

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Speaker 9: I mean, the fumbles are terrible, you're you know, and

557
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Speaker 9: they have not They're the only team in the league that.

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Speaker 6: Hasn't taken the ball away in four games so far.

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Speaker 9: And so now if you're zero and three right there

560
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Speaker 9: and you can't you know, and you're not taking it

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Speaker 9: away to try to balance.

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Speaker 6: It out, you're not going to win those games.

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Speaker 9: But you know, the thirteen penalties just some of the

564
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Speaker 9: poor decisions, like Isaiah Williams fielding the punt at the

565
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Speaker 9: three yard line. Might come on, we could go over

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Speaker 9: to Edison High School, all right, or you know, down

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Speaker 9: to Newman High School in Philly. They're not feeling the

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Speaker 9: ball at the three yard line. I mean, it's just

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Speaker 9: it's just a silly mistake. And then even you know

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Speaker 9: Tanner Instrom's play call in the third quarter, it's third

571
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Speaker 9: and six at to fifty and they're handing it off

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Speaker 9: to Isaiah Adams, Like, you're not doing that when you're

573
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Speaker 9: losing twenty four to ten in this league. You're throwing

574
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Speaker 9: it to go get the first down. You know, they

575
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Speaker 9: gain nothing on it, and they got to punt the

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Speaker 9: ball away. There's just some decisions. Honestly, every Jet fan

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Speaker 9: I'm out here to just rant, I mean every Jet

578
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Speaker 9: fan is saying the exact same thing today and that Okay,

579
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Speaker 9: you got to clean it up.

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Speaker 6: We know that, but how are you going to do it?

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Speaker 9: Because it's going to be a drastic turnaround from turning

582
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Speaker 9: it over in every game to kickoff returns that have

583
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Speaker 9: led to fumbles that have led to scores. You know

584
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Speaker 9: against Pittsburgh week one and then yesterday, two different returners.

585
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Speaker 6: Like there's a constant thing right.

586
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Speaker 4: There, Yeah, I laughed there because Baldy mentioned Newman in Philly,

587
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Speaker 4: that's my alma mater. Me and Christian Barmore were both

588
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Speaker 4: cash and checks from the NFL Is Moore Zeros in

589
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Speaker 4: his But look, you know week one I covered that

590
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Speaker 4: game Jets Steelers, and I said, oh, this Jet seems

591
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Speaker 4: gonna be fun, and they're gonna be competitive. They're gonna

592
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Speaker 4: play hard, and they're going to push them teams to

593
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Speaker 4: the brinks and potential playoff teams to the brink. We

594
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Speaker 4: haven't seen it since and Aaron Glenn at this point

595
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Speaker 4: after the game in Miami, there's a posts on social

596
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Speaker 4: media from reporters who were in the press conferce room say,

597
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Speaker 4: we can year Aaron Glynn screaming through the walls at

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Speaker 4: the players in the locker room, and it's like, you're

599
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 4: going to get to a point where if they're not

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Speaker 4: responding to this kind of stuff, we're going to start

601
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Speaker 4: to have some hard questions. And trust me, the people

602
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Speaker 4: around the league are already asking me because they have

603
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Speaker 4: a vested interest, whether they're coaches or coaching agents or whatnot.

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Speaker 4: We're not there yet, Like, let's be clear, we're not

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Speaker 4: there yet. But if this continues and you don't get

606
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Speaker 4: that kind of responsible, at some point, we're going to

607
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Speaker 4: be there and have those hard conversations.

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Speaker 6: Right Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Well, I mean, ultimately it's what he's decision, Whatdy Johnson,

610
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Speaker 9: you know, the owner, So it's going to be his decision.

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Speaker 9: But I mean he's looking at the same thing that

612
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Speaker 9: he saw a year ago. Now, there are some that

613
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Speaker 9: they ran for two hundred yards. They gained one hundred

614
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 9: yards more than Miami. But the things that get you

615
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Speaker 9: beat in this league are penalties, you turnovers, and you're

616
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Speaker 9: not taking the ball.

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Speaker 6: Away, You're going to get beaten no matter what you do.

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Speaker 6: You know, the offensive line.

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Speaker 9: Is run blocking pretty good, like that was a pretty

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Speaker 9: good effort last night, and they took the ball right

621
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Speaker 9: down the field. It's a shame that, you know, Brailn

622
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Speaker 9: fumbles there going into the end zone trying to you know,

623
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Speaker 9: stay on his feet and it gets punched out. But

624
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 9: those are things that you've got to preach every day

625
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 9: about ball security. Five points of pressure. I could go

626
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Speaker 9: through every single thing I've ever seen in any coaching

627
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Speaker 9: clinic I've ever been to about how to keep that

628
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 9: thing strapped to your body. So but you know that

629
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 9: got loose and it got away from him and it

630
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Speaker 9: was you know, it was a big turnaround in the

631
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Speaker 9: game last night.

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Speaker 1: If you've ever dreamed about what the perfect lineup in

633
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Speaker 1: a fantasy football match of my look like, well this

634
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Speaker 1: is what it would have been last week. I had one, two,

635
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Speaker 1: two of those guys. Ashton Jenty the breakout performance, get

636
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Speaker 1: a two hundred fifty two points, or you could have

637
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Speaker 1: started this lineup, the imperfect lineup. I had one of

638
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Speaker 1: those guys too, Luther Burden the third. I bought the

639
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Speaker 1: come off of his breakout performance. He delivered in my

640
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Speaker 1: league negative point four points because we don't do PPR,

641
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Speaker 1: and it helped cost me the game.

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Speaker 2: Mistakes were made.

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Speaker 1: I'll try to avoid them this week with help from

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Speaker 1: Inside with Fantasy Live with our guy Michael f Florio. Okay,

645
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Speaker 1: waiver wires are open in a lot of leagues right now.

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Speaker 2: Michael leff.

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Speaker 1: If I'm looking for a quarterback, who should I be targeting?

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Speaker 13: The same person we were talking about on this show

649
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Speaker 13: last week, Jackson Dart. He only threw for one hundred

650
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Speaker 13: and eleven yards this past week, he still scored twenty

651
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Speaker 13: Fantasy points because he can run, a rushing touchdown of

652
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Speaker 13: fifty four rushing yards, and he had a near forty

653
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Speaker 13: yard rush called back due to penalty.

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Speaker 10: That right, there was another four points.

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Speaker 13: He could have had three red zone carries, lots of

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Speaker 13: design runs.

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Speaker 10: Plus we know he has a strong arm. We saw

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Speaker 10: him lead college football and yards on deep passes.

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Speaker 13: The Giants are going to be trailing in games, I promise,

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Speaker 13: so he's gonna have to air it out more. I

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Speaker 13: think Jackson Dart brings the most upside of any waiver

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Speaker 13: wire quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I would like to have everyone out there except

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Speaker 4: for the people in my league listen to this next

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Speaker 4: piece of advice, because sorry, the rest of my league,

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Speaker 4: this guy is unavailable on a cat. I picked him

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Speaker 4: up last week. Go running back, Woody Marx.

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Speaker 10: He's on the outsiders already. He should be on a

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Speaker 10: lot of your teams.

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Speaker 13: I was saying last week, Tustashum, but if you didn't

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Speaker 13: get ready to spend that fab now, I think fifty

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Speaker 13: to sixty percent of your fab budget if you.

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Speaker 10: Have it, your number one waiver wire claim.

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Speaker 13: He went for one hundred and twenty yards and two touchdowns.

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Speaker 13: What I really like, not only did he take over

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Speaker 13: the groundwork. We're seeing him be used as a weapon

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Speaker 13: in the passing game, and that makes him not be

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Speaker 13: gamescript relat kind of like Nick Chubb was when he

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Speaker 13: was starting here. So I think Woody Marx brings a

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Speaker 13: lot of upside. He is the unquestioned, in my opinion,

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Speaker 13: top waiver wire pickup of the week.

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Speaker 4: And by the way, I'm such a genius. How did

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Speaker 4: it start him?

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Speaker 2: Sorry? Hey, you got him though, Mike.

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Speaker 1: At this point, in this point in the season, Michael,

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Speaker 1: if you're looking for a wide receiver, you're looking there

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Speaker 1: a bunch of guys who are projected to score like

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Speaker 1: three points. Gay, give me a deep cut somebody with

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Speaker 1: some upside. Do you think is worth picking up off

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Speaker 1: the waiver wire?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I have to go a little deeper.

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Speaker 13: This week, but I like Isaiah Bond from the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 13: We saw Cedric Tillman go on ir and Bond was

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Speaker 13: their wide receiver two after Tillman left last week. He

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Speaker 13: was previously the wide receiver three last week's second most

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Speaker 13: snaps and targets, and he led the Browns in receiving yards.

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Speaker 13: He is a really fast wide receiver who has a

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Speaker 13: lot of after the catchability.

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Speaker 2: He fell in.

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Speaker 13: The draft because of off the field stuff, probably like

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Speaker 13: a third fourth round talent though, and just lots of

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Speaker 13: speed on a team that has.

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Speaker 7: A lot of targets up for grabs.

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Speaker 4: He fell all the way through the draft as an

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Speaker 4: undrafted free agent, and once he got his legal clearance

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Speaker 4: signed with the Browns tight end position. We're still good

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Speaker 4: with Trey McBride. That was your suggestion, so I'm still

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Speaker 4: hanging on to him. But if you don't have that

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Speaker 4: solid tight end, who are you looking at in the way?

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Speaker 4: Rewire Darren Waller, Welcome back to the NFL. Big fellow look.

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Speaker 13: In his first game in what nearly two years, he

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Speaker 13: scored two touchdowns and seventeen Fantasy points. He was the

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Speaker 13: fourth best tight end in Fantasy in Week four, and

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Speaker 13: he did so on very limited snaps and routes.

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Speaker 10: Clearly, he looks like the.

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Speaker 13: Go to guy for the Dolphins in the red zone

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Speaker 13: and end zone, but I expect his usage to increase,

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Speaker 13: and the Dolphins without Tyreek Hill, there is suddenly a

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Speaker 13: lot of targets up for grabs.

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Speaker 10: Plus, Waller was lining.

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Speaker 13: Up as a wide receiver, so he is my favorite

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Speaker 13: tight end. But look there's plenty of other names out there,

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Speaker 13: so like like Mason Taylor at tight end, Darius Slayton.

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Speaker 13: Lots of names out there for however deep of the

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Speaker 13: league you are in. I have a whole thread on

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Speaker 13: my Twitter account if you need more Waiver Wire names.

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Speaker 1: We are a little over forty eight hours away from

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Speaker 1: the start of Week five, and what a good one

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Speaker 1: to kick things off. The forty nine ers and Rams Well,

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Speaker 1: Brett Pertty be out there deal with toast soreness again.

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Speaker 1: If not, I'm sure we can just Ai mac Jones

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Speaker 1: to that promo sometime before Thursday Night. Let's welcome in

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Speaker 1: Sam Schwarzstein, Prime Video, Thursday Night Football's analytics expert, to

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Speaker 1: go deep into the matchup. Sam, Let's start out with

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Speaker 1: one guy who absolutely is gonna be on the field,

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure producing Poka Nacoua is off to another

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Speaker 1: unbelievable start. Matthew Staffer says, he's lucky to be throwing

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Speaker 1: to that guy. Give me the deep take of what

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Speaker 1: we're seeing right now from PoCA.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, we know how he's doing with just yards, leading

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Speaker 14: the NFL in yards, but it's the situational football metrics

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Speaker 14: that make him stand out even more. His receiving EPA

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Speaker 14: is thirty six point six. For context, number two in

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Speaker 14: the NFL all mon wrestling brown he is at twenty nine.

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Speaker 14: Number three is Jackson Smith and Jigba at nineteen. The

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Speaker 14: league average is around six point three. This guy can

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Speaker 14: do it all and what thing rely on. He gets

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Speaker 14: a target rate of forty two percent, meaning when he's

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Speaker 14: on the field, that's where Matthew Stafford's looking. Forty two

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Speaker 14: percent of the time. He can run dig routes, which

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Speaker 14: is that in breaker he runs that twenty three percent

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Speaker 14: at a time league averages six point three. He stands

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Speaker 14: out all on his own and he didn't even run

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Speaker 14: the ball. What he does different than everyone else is

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Speaker 14: he finds a way to be open for Stafford on

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Speaker 14: every single play. And what Stafford wants to do is

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Speaker 14: make sure that he feeds his boy so that this

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Speaker 14: Rams offense can keep humming. It's important for those fantasy fans.

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Speaker 14: On a yards per round run, he's at four point three.

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Speaker 14: That magic number for all us nerds is four point zero.

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Speaker 14: He's the top one hundred or at one point six yards.

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Speaker 1: The Rams lean on Poka much the same way the

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers who basically have no one else left

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Speaker 1: or leaning on.

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Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey.

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Speaker 1: Tell me about what you've seen in terms of his

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Speaker 1: start these first four weeks.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, the Stanford Legends making up for more than enough

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Speaker 14: players on this injured San Francisco offense. He's used on

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Speaker 14: forty two percent of the offensive plays for the San

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Speaker 14: Francisco forty nine ers this season. That's by far the

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Speaker 14: highest of any player. He's been targeted forty three times,

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Speaker 14: so he's as a thirty four point four percent target rate.

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Speaker 14: That's the third highest of any pass catcher trilling only

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Speaker 14: Poka Nakua and Jackson Smith and Jigba. They are able

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Speaker 14: to leverage him in the run game with his speed

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Speaker 14: line scrimmage. He's probably the most downhall runner in the NFL,

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Speaker 14: just trying to get those chunk yards on. But even

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Speaker 14: on places where he's at the original target, like last week,

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Speaker 14: he's the hook and ladder target. They want to get

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Speaker 14: the ball in his hands in so many different ways

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Speaker 14: because he's the guy that they can rely on. And look,

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Speaker 14: this usage it cannot continue throughout the rest of the year.

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Speaker 14: This would be an historical run for him. They need

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Speaker 14: to get some guys back healthy. And this short week

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Speaker 14: he's really going to have to step up for the Niners.

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Speaker 1: He's going to be going up against the Rams defense

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Speaker 1: that especially upfront, is really young and really really talented.

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Speaker 1: What are the Rams do They can give a team

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Speaker 1: like this fits?

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Speaker 14: Yeah, Tom, If either it's brock Purty, Ai brock Purty

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Speaker 14: or Mac Jones, it doesn't matter who it's going to

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Speaker 14: be back there. Their Rams are going to get pressure

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Speaker 14: and that's what they really want to want to major

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Speaker 14: in their defense is minus point one two epa per play.

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Speaker 14: That's the fifth best in the NFL. That means they're

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Speaker 14: creating all these negative plays. They're situationally one of the

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Speaker 14: best football teams and it's all tied to their pressure.

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Speaker 14: They have the fourth best pressure rate at forty five percent.

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Speaker 14: That's now second in the NFL in sacks, and they

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Speaker 14: do it by committee. They have a sack leader in

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Speaker 14: Byron Young, but hey, guys like Jared Verse, who man,

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Speaker 14: I'm so happy I'd never made the NFL because playing

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Speaker 14: a guy like him, he just gives offensive lineman fits

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Speaker 14: because he's able to run through your chest any moment.

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Speaker 14: And then they're also able to make great plays at

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Speaker 14: the end of the game. This interception that sealed the

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Speaker 14: game for them. They have three interceptions on the season,

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Speaker 14: so they are able to generate the big plays. Focus

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Speaker 14: on getting after the quarterback and giving them fits. And

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Speaker 14: that's whatever whoever lines up at quarterback for the Niners

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Speaker 14: is going to have to deal with this front.

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Speaker 1: You can watch Sam schwartzteing every Thursday night on Prime

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Speaker 1: Vision with Next Gen Stats. Alternate Stream Thursdays covers forty

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Speaker 1: pm Eastern Time. He's also with us every week except

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Speaker 1: for next week because a very important personal day. If

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Speaker 1: you run all the analytics, Sam to figure out exactly

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Speaker 1: what the best time is to have a baby in

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Speaker 1: the middle of the.

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Speaker 14: Football season, No, if I would use the analytics on that,

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Speaker 14: we want to be having something one on this week.

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Speaker 1: That is a great point, Sam. Thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: We will talk to you in a couple of weeks here.

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Speaker 1: Good luck with everything there as well. If you haven't already,

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Speaker 2: Four terms. Hey mcfangio, anything on your mind?

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Speaker 15: You know what you guys have missed. Not to shoe,

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Speaker 15: but everybody is. You know, we gave up a sixty

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Speaker 15: five yard field goal and a fifty eight yard field goal.

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Speaker 15: These kicking balls that they changed this year have drastically

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Speaker 15: changed the kicking game field goals in particular. So it's

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Speaker 15: almost like they need an asterisk here, like it was

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Speaker 15: the live ball era, or the asterisk for those home

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Speaker 15: runs Bonds and Sosa Maguire were hitting.

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Speaker 1: I'm having flashbacks to remember during the early stages of

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Speaker 1: the flake Gate, before it even had a name, when

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick spent the playoff bye week running tests and

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Speaker 1: putting balls in a sauna and different stuff here. Vic

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Speaker 1: Vig's got Vic's got some interesting ideas here, Mike, What

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Speaker 1: do you.

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Speaker 6: Think I get it?

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Speaker 4: Vic's trying to keep points off the board and they're

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Speaker 4: hitting them from these distances. But I will say this,

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Speaker 4: fifty yard field goals fifty plus seventy five percent last year,

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Speaker 4: seventy four percent this year, and sixty one made last year,

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Speaker 4: fifty plus or more fifty six this year, so it's

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Speaker 4: actually down year over year. The rules change, we were

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Speaker 4: focused so much on the touch push band that didn't

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Speaker 4: go through this one did. The kickers can now use

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Speaker 4: the balls they're going to use in the game the

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Speaker 4: entire weeks you get to break them in. This was

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Speaker 4: proposed by the Ravens Special Teams. Senior Special Teams coach

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Speaker 4: Randy Brown proposed this. They had co signers with teams,

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Speaker 4: the Browns, the Texans, the Raiders, the Vikings, the Commanders,

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Speaker 4: and Vic.

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Speaker 2: By the way, the Eagles were.

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Speaker 1: Co sponsors for that rule change right there, friend, Just

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Speaker 1: to be clear, VIC is just referring to the balls,

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Speaker 1: which was also part of baseball's steroid era. The balls

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Speaker 1: were also juice, but the players looked a little different.

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Speaker 1: The kickers still predominantly you know, guys built more like me.

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Speaker 2: Which I appreciate when I won my side.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Vick is right about one thing.

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Speaker 2: Go, fellies, let's go ring that bell.

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Speaker 6: We'll see tomorrow.

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Speaker 11: Life