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Speaker 1: All right, we are pleased to be joined by a

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Speaker 1: local legend. Matthew Chuck is with us here, like Tahoe

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Speaker 1: just came off a round of golf.

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Speaker 2: How'd you play, man?

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Speaker 3: I played all right.

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Speaker 4: I was just more just having fun hitting a couple

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Speaker 4: But my group was amazing with Jonathan Thomas, the you know,

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Speaker 4: basically like the CEO and creator of this tournament, with

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Speaker 4: the American Century and all of them, and it was

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Speaker 4: so much fun. And j T's uh played within the

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Speaker 4: last two years in the in the pre h like

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Speaker 4: the pre uh whatever weekend practice round, right, and it's

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Speaker 4: just been so much fun and getting to know guys

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Speaker 4: but hopes me back look forward to many more years less.

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Speaker 1: So you were aware that these guys like they stressed

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Speaker 1: about getting the invite back.

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Speaker 2: Are you already stressing.

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Speaker 1: About that or you feel like you're good you want

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Speaker 1: Stanley Cup Tambion, I mean.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I do know that it's uh, you know, one of

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Speaker 3: It so much fun.

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Speaker 2: No pressure. I put a flyer on you.

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Speaker 3: Okay, ye, waste I have.

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Speaker 2: What do you mean, good, Chuck? What are you talking about?

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Speaker 3: Waste?

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Speaker 4: Why some of us hadn't you know play in the

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Speaker 4: Stanley Cup finals about a few weeks ago?

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Speaker 3: There was no practice.

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Speaker 2: How'd you get into golf?

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Speaker 3: I I kind of just grew up playing. My dad

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Speaker 4: He was really cool, uh, like a great sports parent.

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Speaker 4: Where it wasn't I know, he's an incredible hockey player

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Speaker 4: and and was, uh you know, one of the best

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Speaker 3: But he never forced like playing hockey in the summer.

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Speaker 4: It was always like put the bag away, go grab

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Speaker 3: So and golf is my favorite thing in the summer.

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Speaker 4: And I feel like it's it's weird and and how

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Speaker 4: it kind of translates to hockey. But it does, like

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Speaker 4: the hands around the green, sure, you know, some of

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Speaker 3: So I love it. It's uh, not a.

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Speaker 4: Very physical sport because I don't need another physical sport

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Speaker 4: but it's been h Yeah. I love golf and and

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Speaker 4: I love to play it. I love to watch it.

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Speaker 2: Were you a good lax player?

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Speaker 3: Not really really. I think that's why I played hard golf.

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Speaker 1: So that's how I know Tony because my daughter Tony

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Speaker 1: A Monte connected us.

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Speaker 2: My daughter plays with Dylan Amante at Northwest.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you you look like you would be good

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Speaker 3: My brother was better.

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Speaker 4: He was he was bigger, and he was he was

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Speaker 3: Chucky.

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Speaker 6: Everybody says that the Stanley Cup is the hardest trophy

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Speaker 6: to win. You've went back to back, is part of

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Speaker 3: Pretty easy for him? It's not that hard.

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Speaker 4: No, it's hard because you know I but people don't

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Speaker 4: really think of a lot, you know. I've gotten gotten

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Speaker 4: like can't you just let Evan to get it?

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, do you feel bad for them? I'm like,

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Speaker 4: Bad for anybody, because at the end of the day,

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Speaker 4: we lost to Vegas a few years ago and nobody

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Speaker 1: So right, But Canada cares about hockey and we've taken

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Speaker 2: From them at South Florida. Yeah, well, what it has

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Speaker 4: What I've seen that from my time in South Florida

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Speaker 4: It's spend the time my life, best thing that's happened

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Speaker 2: I don't know, yeah three peat.

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Speaker 1: When you signed with the Panthers, did you ever imagine

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Speaker 1: in your wildest dreams that this is what it would

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Speaker 3: No, No, I didn't.

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Speaker 4: I know, we're out here and beautiful Tahoe at this

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Speaker 4: have I don't want to say care more because they

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Speaker 4: cared a lot when I got there, But just.

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Speaker 1: Now, Matthew, they didn't care before you got there. I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you, I've lived there my entire life. Yeah, fifteen

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Speaker 2: That's fine.

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Speaker 4: I guess that's great. Ever since I've been there, I

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Speaker 1: So it's, uh, that's because you're winning all the time,

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Speaker 4: And we people keep talking to me about two, like

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Speaker 4: right right, I'm like, no, you win too, like you're

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Speaker 4: right and waste opportunities. So that's kind of the motivation

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Speaker 1: You mentioned growing up in a hockey family. When did

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Speaker 1: you know you were going to play hockey for a living,

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Speaker 1: like a what age?

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Speaker 3: Probably like fourteen pre late, I think that's uh.

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Speaker 6: What was the scouting report in your baseball game?

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Speaker 3: I was terrible, terrible arm, probably probably the only.

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Speaker 3: But I was a good hitter, So yeah, I liked.

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Speaker 4: I actually was a pretty good second basement and I

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Speaker 2: Are you an angry golfer?

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Speaker 4: No, No, no, not at all. In fact, I'm probably

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Speaker 4: quite the opposite. I just really love laughing, having a

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Speaker 4: not coming here to win. I'm coming here for I mean,

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Speaker 4: I know that I played with Marty Fish last year

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Speaker 4: in a practice round. He's pretty good, insane. Yeah, Pravelski's incredible.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, there's obviously no chance for the rest of us,

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Speaker 2: I put a flyer on your regardless, man.

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you it's a waste him.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Have you actually driven around Sunrise. Have I driven, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: have you like gone to the mall? Have you gone

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Speaker 3: So I haven't been to the quarter deck. I go

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Speaker 4: I mean my first year we were out there all

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Speaker 4: you rink in Fort lauderdough that's insane. But we only

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Speaker 3: John.

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Speaker 1: I asked that because you know, I have like broadcaster

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Speaker 1: friends who come down and call your guys game to

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Speaker 1: the Stanley Cup.

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Speaker 2: Kenny Albert comes to mind. The first time he came

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Speaker 1: He thought it was like a beautiful place on the beach,

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Speaker 1: and Sunrise is beautiful.

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Speaker 2: I grew up.

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Speaker 1: I mean I lived fifteen minutes from Sunrise, but it's

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Speaker 3: Was asking, Oh, it's not, it's Ma's. I think that's

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Speaker 2: Is the Elbow Room your favorite place in South Florida?

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Speaker 3: I would say from a bar?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, right, I've got some great restaurants down there. Love

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Speaker 4: I love going on the inner coach. So I don't

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Speaker 2: This is why Canada hates us. You realize that, well, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, I guess I'm the lucky one that gets to

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Speaker 6: I'm a Rangers fan and we were you know, President's

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Speaker 6: Cup Trophy in the state in the Eastern Conference finals.

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Speaker 6: We lose to you guys. We blow it up. We

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Speaker 6: missed the playoffs this year. Is any part of you

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Speaker 6: decide to blow it up and being like, yeah, that

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Speaker 4: No, I think there's so much that would go into that.

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Speaker 4: You know, we've had we've had some success the last

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Speaker 3: Room to go.

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Speaker 4: And it's crazy and we don't really worry about the

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Speaker 4: I guess we beat them in playoffs.

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Speaker 1: I don't really Were you pissed when Marshan and came

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Speaker 4: I loved it because I knew that that was a

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Speaker 4: guy like well Seth Jones. I could put us over

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Speaker 4: the humpings and now out there here for the next

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Speaker 4: but well five years Marshy six. I mean, it's two

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Speaker 4: culture guys and glue guys that we're so lucky to have.

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Speaker 1: I love that people were doubting whether or not you

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Speaker 2: And I go, we're gonna have Eck Bland. He's got

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Speaker 2: to go. You signed all of them.

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Speaker 1: You signed all of them, man like Benny Vaijola signed

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Speaker 3: Would you want to leave Florida?

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Speaker 2: No? No, no, But I just I found it.

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Speaker 1: I find it funny that hockey players want to stay

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Speaker 1: for left money.

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Speaker 2: That's amazing to me.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you're eleven. Yeah, so you're alive.

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Speaker 1: You're on the Mount Rushmore of South Florida sports. How

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Speaker 3: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it takes a village, and I'm just lucky to

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Speaker 1: All Right, man, we appreciate your time. Two times Stanley

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Speaker 2: How do you do it? Man?

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Speaker 7: Hey? Man, I just try to keep up with the Joneses.

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Speaker 7: I was like, no, this is not me.

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Speaker 7: Then I went back and started eating the way I

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Speaker 1: By the way you were hitting the ball so well

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Speaker 2: You to with this tournament. Don't let me down, Gary.

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Speaker 7: Don't put that kind.

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Speaker 2: Just a small fire.

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Speaker 7: No, I tell people all the time the range. Don't

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Speaker 5: You know you got the obstacles out here, the water

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Speaker 7: Yeah, kind of think about it, a little water, you do.

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Speaker 2: We've known you for a long time that in South Florida.

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Speaker 1: You told me a great story before we came on

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Speaker 7: I was started off by saying, now we have one

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Speaker 5: Yeah player, former player, Now, yeah you And then yeah,

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Speaker 7: I wanted the bat title, and in ninety.

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Speaker 5: Three they they couldn't afford me and Fred McGriff, so

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Speaker 5: they had to trade Dave Maggott, which was a fan

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Speaker 5: I said, bring him back. So they said, would you

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Speaker 7: Well, that wasn't even the story. That wasn't the truth.

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Speaker 7: So I vowed I told him to rewrite that. He

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Speaker 5: And I told him, until you apologize and write the

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Speaker 5: And so uh, he thought about it, and he thought

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Speaker 7: That's not good for business.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: He didn't have access to Gary Sheffield anymore, right, so

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Speaker 5: So to his credit, he came into Polygon right and

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Speaker 5: he wrote the article about you know, it was he

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Speaker 7: You know, quoted me wrong.

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Speaker 2: He retracted.

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Speaker 7: And after that we started talking and then come to

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Speaker 8: He was playing tough, but well he car but you know,

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Speaker 8: after we got past that, right, you know, he helped

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Speaker 2: Yeah. He loves you, man, Yeah, I love him.

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Speaker 5: He's one of the best guys that I've met that

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Speaker 7: And he's more than that. I think he's more than that,

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Speaker 1: I'm hesitant to let Taylor ask you a question because

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Speaker 1: he's such a fanboy I thank you for sharing that

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Speaker 7: It meant something to me too. I knew who he was,

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Speaker 7: what he meant in South Florida. Yeah, and I didn't,

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Speaker 7: And I didn't think it was fair to misquote me

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Speaker 7: the first day I get there.

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Speaker 2: Sure, and he listened. He misquotes me all the time,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm on the record.

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Speaker 7: I was on Chef's side.

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Speaker 2: I have to, it's my job.

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Speaker 1: But there were many days I didn't want to go

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Speaker 1: back in there Gary, just like you, man, But I

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Speaker 1: don't have your power, all right anyway, And hesidant to

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Speaker 6: Chef ste Goots has his personal record book where he

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Speaker 6: kind of keeps score. We have a batting stands Hall Fame.

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Speaker 6: You're a first ballot, so first off, congratulations, thank you. Second,

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Speaker 5: I always talk about this guy, and he's on my

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Speaker 7: And this guy Jeff Bagwell, he didn't pitch to him.

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Speaker 5: They didn't pitch to me, They didn't pitch the Beary Bonds,

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Speaker 7: Hundred and ninety eight walks.

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Speaker 5: Crazy, but we still put up the stats that the

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Speaker 2: Right, But you love the batting stance on Bagwell.

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Speaker 1: Gary, he was terrifying being at the stadium when you

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Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah. When I saw Bagwell for the first time,

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Speaker 5: You would not know big guys. We're kind of under

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Speaker 2: I am interested.

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Speaker 1: If you don't mind, you have like a top you

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Speaker 2: Okay, so Bagwell's in there. Yes, who are the other four?

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Speaker 2: Okay on four? Not one? Huh? You put three guys

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Speaker 7: I can't put myself before bare Bond. I also, yeah,

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Speaker 1: So Bonds is so interesting because people just they make

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Speaker 7: Elevated his game. He was a thirty to thirty guy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, in his sleep, and then he put on muscle,

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Speaker 7: The game, the game changed.

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Speaker 5: He challenged right and made it, made it like Nintendo,

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Speaker 2: Wow, okay, I'll put a rod to So you're four

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Speaker 1: Frank Thomas Street, Dick Hurt Wow, so hey roight too.

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Speaker 2: Most people would disagree with you on that, right, I'm pretty.

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Speaker 1: Sure, right, but but but the numbers bear out he

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Speaker 7: It's crazy.

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Speaker 1: David Wells was telling us yesterday that he doesn't watch

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Speaker 2: Do you you're same? Why I don't?

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Speaker 7: I don't like I'm not one.

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Speaker 7: Everything evolves.

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Speaker 5: was beneficial to the fans to watch him, and there

449
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Speaker 5: was a brand of baseball where everybody just wanted to

450
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Speaker 5: come out and see something they'd never seen before, That's

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Speaker 5: what the beauty was. When we play, you'll see a

452
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Speaker 5: guy go and steal a base and hit a triple bunt,

453
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Speaker 5: do all the little things, and the fans up on

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Speaker 5: their feet over a bunt when you see Kenny Lofton

455
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Speaker 5: flying down first base, then get on and steal second

456
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Speaker 5: and third and Aba Bell just hit.

457
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Speaker 7: A home run to drive in or hear the weak

458
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Speaker 7: round ball and drive. So it's all kinds of ways

459
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Speaker 7: to play the game to win.

460
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Speaker 5: But when you come to the park and when baseball

461
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Speaker 5: in our era, when you hit a home run.

462
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Speaker 7: It meant something. So that's when the chicks loved the

463
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Speaker 7: Long Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that commercial with maddices, small chicksty Yes.

465
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Speaker 5: Loan Ball, Yes, because it's that that's all that's happening.

466
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Speaker 5: Or a strikeout, so that to me, I never wanted

467
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Speaker 5: to do that walk of shame. The walker shame and

468
00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,000
Speaker 5: striking out over two hundred times a year, that's just embarrassing.

469
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Speaker 1: But like the subtle nuances though, right, moving a guy

470
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Speaker 1: based to base, right, it's gone.

471
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Speaker 2: It's it's left the game.

472
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Speaker 5: Because the the the establishments don't believe that.

473
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Speaker 7: You can get three hits off of these pictures, right,

474
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Speaker 7: so they won't give up and out to try to

475
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Speaker 7: hope the guy.

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Speaker 5: The next two guys driving me in that's gone because

477
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Speaker 5: these guys.

478
00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:26,320
Speaker 7: Are throwing quote unquote harder. I've been the game. When

479
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Speaker 7: I don't see that, I don't see it.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: Was there a picture where if you knew you you

482
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Speaker 1: were facing that picture the next day, it would keep

483
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Speaker 1: you up all night?

484
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Speaker 3: Like?

485
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Speaker 2: Is there a guy that intimidated Gary Sheffield?

486
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Speaker 7: Only two?

487
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Speaker 2: Okay? And one was Dave's Stewart right still, he.

488
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Speaker 1: Pulled his hat all the way down. He was so dark, right,

489
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Speaker 1: he was scary, So the hat down in the darkness.

490
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Speaker 7: Like I wonder if you had black right.

491
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Speaker 1: He was so good man, and so like Bob Gibson,

492
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Speaker 1: like in terms of intimidation.

493
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Speaker 5: And then when I met Dave, the nicest guy of course,

494
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Speaker 5: just like you, I was afraid of you. Then the

495
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Speaker 5: other one was Nolan Ryan, the man I tell you,

496
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Speaker 5: I tell you, I don't think I ever slept the.

497
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Speaker 7: Night before when I knew I had to face Wow.

498
00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,760
Speaker 5: And he was so intimidating because you ain't knew he

499
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Speaker 5: was gonna throw it but in the back of your.

500
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Speaker 7: Neck, in front of your neck, or paint you with

501
00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,840
Speaker 7: a hook, or throw a hundred miles.

502
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Speaker 1: What was there a guy where you're looking your chops.

503
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Speaker 2: You can't get to the ballpark suiting up because you

504
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Speaker 2: know he's on the mound.

505
00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,800
Speaker 7: Well. I always vowed to never say their name, but

506
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Speaker 7: it's one name, Jamie Wright, you did.

507
00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:52,960
Speaker 2: How did you get into golf?

508
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Speaker 3: Gary?

509
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Speaker 5: Actually Michael Jordan's he told me a long time ago,

510
00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,480
Speaker 5: early in my career, when he tried to play for

511
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Speaker 5: the White Off Sure, and he said, man, you need

512
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,399
Speaker 5: You're crazy button needs to play go That's how he

513
00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:04,760
Speaker 5: said it.

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Speaker 7: I said, what do you mean. I said, I ain't

515
00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:07,760
Speaker 7: got five hours good enough?

516
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Speaker 5: You know, I like, I'm gonna go out here for

517
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Speaker 5: five hours in the sun. No, no, thank you.

518
00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,640
Speaker 7: He said, year, this game will calm you down.

519
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 5: You can do a lot of business. You're meeting a

520
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,000
Speaker 5: lot of people and do business on the golf. And

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00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:20,320
Speaker 5: he kind of educated me on it.

522
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Speaker 7: And I didn't see it at the time because I

523
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Speaker 7: was young.

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Speaker 5: And and then eventually I started playing, and then I

525
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Speaker 5: took my kid, my wife and kids out there and

526
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Speaker 5: start hitting ball.

527
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,800
Speaker 7: I started. And then all of a sudden, when Michael built.

528
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Speaker 5: His course, he asked me to be a member, and

529
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 5: I said okay, and then I became a member, and

530
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Speaker 5: the rest is history.

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Speaker 2: I play that course.

532
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Speaker 7: It's great, was his?

533
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,159
Speaker 2: Well, why not? It's Michael Jordan's.

534
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,600
Speaker 5: If you had my money, you couldn't do that.

535
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Speaker 2: I played it with with a mober shot in Dwight Freedy.

536
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Speaker 1: It's such a special place, man, it's it's I know

537
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Speaker 1: we're not supposed to really talk about Jordan's club, but

538
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Speaker 1: holy ship, that place was amazing.

539
00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 7: Carry it's the best hang ever. Yes, you got the

540
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Speaker 7: quality people.

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Speaker 5: Everybody gets along there, right, it's just some great atmosphere.

542
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Speaker 7: Yes, you're never going to play eighteen homes.

543
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 2: No, you never.

544
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:11,719
Speaker 1: You're never getting through it, yep, yep, and then you're

545
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 1: gonna finally eat, right, and if you're down money, you

546
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Speaker 1: might play again after eight.

547
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 7: Well, if I'm down money, I'm going right, chef.

548
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 6: I actually have your career numbers against Steve Traskell sixty

549
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 6: seven plate appearances you batt at four oh seven, and

550
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 6: then against Jamie Wright in thirty four plate appearances you

551
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:33,440
Speaker 6: batted five to nineteen.

552
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Speaker 1: Couldn't get to the ballpark, slept there the night before.

553
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 2: But the numbers, the numbers back up.

554
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:45,439
Speaker 3: He made me give up.

555
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, and no one makes Gary Sheffie'll do anything you

556
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Speaker 1: decided you might.

557
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Speaker 7: You second to dam Levi tal.

558
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Speaker 2: We appreciate it, man, good luck this week. Enjoy it man,

559
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Speaker 2: enjoy it all right. So fly I got a flyer

560
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Speaker 2: on you, Gary, You got right man. It was great

561
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Speaker 2: catching up with.

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Speaker 7: You, buddy.

563
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Speaker 1: Look at you walking with a cigar you got I mean, look,

564
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Speaker 1: you are the coolest guy too,