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Speaker 1: and Skin Show, Kevin kat Turner. Wow, thanks for having me, guys. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: That's right. We got k Garrison executive producer. Great to

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Speaker 1: have you, though, kat and looking forward to your contributions

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Speaker 1: I want to dive into this program right off the bat,

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Speaker 1: Scouts think of him potentially it's a first round pick

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Speaker 1: and in my I just posting him new mock draft today,

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Speaker 1: I had him off the board in the top fifteen.

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Speaker 1: But he absolutely he quick team. Did you have to

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Speaker 1: And I don't think he's gonna test overly well you

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Speaker 1: what you expect from a defensive end. The length will

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Speaker 1: the average? Could he be? This year's loss in that

429
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Speaker 1: I was fourth round and all of a sudden, you

430
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Speaker 1: know he's rushing the pass or Aston was a better

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Speaker 1: player than I know. I know our board had lost

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433
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Speaker 1: there's more to get excited about? I think with losson

434
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Speaker 1: just because it's the pure get off. But again, this

435
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Speaker 1: gonna take us a little bit to figure out. We

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Speaker 1: throw some other names just I know, we gotta go

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Speaker 1: to break real quick here hot Anthony Miller, I see,

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Speaker 1: I feel good about that. Feel good about it? Orlando Brown?

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Speaker 1: What worries you about Anthony Miller? Roll? I just worry

441
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Speaker 1: about the way he runs routes the routes. Yeah, yeah, okay,

442
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Speaker 1: good player though? How about Pain? We talked about him

443
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Speaker 1: defensive tackle Alabama? How about Modifa Washington State? Defensive tackle

444
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Speaker 1: off Hercules Hercules best name in this draft. Don't know

445
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Speaker 1: where to play him, do we? That's that's a great

446
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Speaker 1: one for this discussion because he played he was an

447
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448
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449
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450
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Speaker 1: There's a place for it, But where do you do it?

451
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Speaker 1: Do you play an edge rusher? Can hold the edge?

452
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Speaker 1: How does he do with that position? Joshua Jackson the tackling, Yeah,

453
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Speaker 1: because he's a first round corner and coverage ball skills,

454
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Speaker 1: The instincts, the length he's not trying to tackle. Yeah,

455
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Speaker 1: he makes some business decisions he doesn't and Deshaan Elliott

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458
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459
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Speaker 1: he's not going to test very well. I don't think

461
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Speaker 1: he's a guy that you want in coverage. So you

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463
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464
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Speaker 1: they look they look nice. But again, he didn't have

466
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Speaker 1: to work for those interceptions, and he's draftable, but he's

467
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Speaker 1: don't think that Justin Reid is the doesn't have the

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Speaker 1: who this guy goes. Yeah, he's smart. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: he looks like there's some plays where he looks like

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Speaker 1: a corner out there with the way he could adjust

544
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Speaker 1: to make plays in the ball. But there's just nothing

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Speaker 1: there that grabs you and says this is a big

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Speaker 1: time player. This is the guy that you know, like, what,

547
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Speaker 1: where's in? What area? Is he just above average? Is

548
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Speaker 1: he great in I don't know what kind of he is.

549
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Speaker 1: I think that I think the turnover factor is I

550
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Speaker 1: think we saw him for some turnovers. That was about

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Speaker 1: what I saw. I didn't think a guy played very

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Speaker 1: well with his eyes. There were times where he took

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Speaker 1: some routes to the ball. I was a little bit

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Speaker 1: questioned about that, and I didn't feel like that he

555
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Speaker 1: looked very comfortable in coverage. I thought he was, like

556
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Speaker 1: you could tell he didn't really think he's that fast

557
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Speaker 1: of a players having to all other times he would

558
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Speaker 1: flip his hips really early, you know, if you're trying

559
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Speaker 1: to get ahead of it a little bit. And there

560
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Speaker 1: are times where you kind of get lost in man coverage.

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Speaker 1: Good tackler wants to come up and hit, you know.

562
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Speaker 1: I like all that that stuff. But man, there's those

563
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Speaker 1: guys are a diamond dozen, those guys who uh, you know,

564
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565
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Speaker 1: covering in man. You know, That's why it's hard. The

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Speaker 1: safety is a hard um position to evaluate for me

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Speaker 1: at least. But I mean, I like Justin Reid. I

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Speaker 1: don't see him as a Thursday or Friday guy. I'm

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Speaker 1: I agree, no problem. I don't think he's the top

571
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Speaker 1: one hundred player. Blake wants to know, give me three

572
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Speaker 1: guards other than Nelson. People are starting to get on.

573
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Speaker 1: Kat brought up an interesting point about Connor Williams and

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Speaker 1: would you play him at guard? And at nineteen would

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Speaker 1: three guards. Other than Nelson Nelson, of course, the Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame guard Quentin Nelson, who we all feel like it's

578
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Speaker 1: a top five player in this draft, top ten somewhere. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Giants probably need to take him. I love Will

580
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Speaker 1: Hernandez from UTEP, and I watched him last I watch

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Speaker 1: in my head for some reason that I'm gonna like

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Speaker 1: this guy. But three hundred and forty pounds moves like

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Speaker 1: nat And you have you had an idea about him

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Speaker 1: coming in, didn't you? Yeah, but that was just based

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Speaker 1: I think at the UTEP guy, I think I would

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Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, he's got bear claws for hands. This

590
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Speaker 1: guy's so much big. He's physical. Oh yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: but you know what you would think at three hundred

592
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Speaker 1: would say, oh, he's probably a slow footed guy. Yeah

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Speaker 1: he's not. And you could play him in schemes. I

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Speaker 1: the cutoff blocks. I don't I don't worry about him.

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Speaker 1: I thought he had a really good understanding too of

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Speaker 1: how to use his body just to have got a

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Speaker 1: and Hernandez is more of a power guy, but on

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Speaker 1: left tackle from Georgia. There you go who not necessarily

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Speaker 1: a power guy, and he's about three hundred pounds uh

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Speaker 1: six two played left tackle. He's gonna move inside in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. I think he has a chance to make

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Speaker 1: I like what Isaiah Winn brings to the table. I

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Speaker 1: tackle to guard convert a guy that is a top three,

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Speaker 1: top four guard in this class. What do you have

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Speaker 1: the kids Smith from Auburn. I like, I think I

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Speaker 1: like him more than you do. Yeah, you do. I

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Speaker 1: He plays a little with high pads. Sometimes that'll hurt

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637
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Speaker 1: and then you got the guy at the Packers, the

638
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: left tackle at Botar, you know those guys. That's kind

639
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: of why I like O'Neill by the way from Pitt.

640
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: You know, I think the guy could play tackle and

641
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: play well. But the thing with I thought that with

642
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: Smith though, was kind of a guy that was a catcher,

643
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: you know, kind of you I was. I was hoping

644
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: that and maybe because when you don't have power, you

645
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: catch and then you try and steer and control. But

646
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: I thought I thought that he didn't have much upper

647
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: about body power, and I worried me playing him inside

648
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: if he had to hook up with some guys. Now,

649
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: maybe it helps somebody's dealing with those the quick the

650
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: quick three or the under tackles that you know, can

651
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: I mean he played in the SEC, so he faced

652
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: a run and you and you watch, you watch him play.

653
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: He played as they moved him as a They moved

654
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: him as a like an unbalanced line player. Yeah, he

655
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: was always lender, the guy that when you if you

656
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: watch some late film, they moved him. They moved him

657
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: to Citi's like where is he? Well, look at tackle

658
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: the tight end spot because they used him as an

659
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: unbalanced guy. But uh, you know, I just kind of

660
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 1: saw a guy light on your feet, like you said,

661
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: mirror slide some areen. They used him at a little

662
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: bit kind of struggle a little bit there, but they

663
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: try to. They used him a lot of different ways.

664
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: He's an athletic guy, light on his feet, like I said,

665
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: no doubt about that. So those are some guys to

666
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: kind of keep in mind right now. And uh and

667
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: and do that. Uh. I think it's Roll Royal. I'm

668
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: sorry if I pronounce your name wrong. There. How come

669
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:28,040
Speaker 1: no hype on James Washington, the wide receiver from Oklahoma State.

670
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: By hype to see you mean first round type hype? Yeah,

671
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: I mean he's saying this guy who's a bullet and

672
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: a Cough Award winner. You know why why no hype?

673
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: We're not talking about him as one of the top guys.

674
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: And I really like him. I've got him at the

675
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: top of my second round group of wide receivers. How

676
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: many guys you have ahead of him? Three? Are you

677
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: guys in front of him? Yeah? Um, I guess the

678
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: things similar. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I mean, I

679
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: kind of see that type of a player. So I

680
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: think you guys like it more than I do. But

681
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: let you give your reasons. Well, I just think there's

682
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: a you never see him play press coverage and welcome

683
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: to the NFL. You're gonna have to deal with that.

684
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: So I've got no idea how he's gonna handle that.

685
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: And that's something we'll you know, get to see a

686
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,479
Speaker 1: little bit here. He'll be a Senior Bowl, right, Yeah, yes,

687
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: So I mean that'll be uh, that'll be something to say.

688
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,719
Speaker 1: I there's a lot of things I like about him.

689
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: The offense too, concerns me as well. I mean we

690
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: went to this whole thing with Corey Colemanum, which you know,

691
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: it's it's just I just don't have faith and the

692
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: guy that doesn't show that he's running ten different routes. Okay,

693
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: he's doing two or three different routes. And I don't

694
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: have a lot of faith in those guys right now.

695
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: But I look again, I got him top of the

696
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: second round. I have Gallop, Kirk and Ridley in front

697
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: of him. But it's it's real close. I like him.

698
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: See the thing Gallop is not getting the hype. Yeah,

699
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: Gallop definitely isn't. And see, this is where I think

700
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl, Senior Bowl will be really important for

701
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: these receivers to separate Anthony Miller from James Washington, from

702
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: Michael Gallop, from Jalil Scott, from Dante Pettis, Marcel Eightman. Yeah,

703
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: you know, there's all these wide receivers that have talent,

704
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: but you know, senior boy will help separate them in

705
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: terms of skill set talent seeing them with their own

706
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: eyes up close with Washington. I agree with everything that

707
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: Kat said, but especially the lack of a full route tree. Yeah,

708
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 1: it really bothers me because yes, he's outstanding vertically, we

709
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: saw that time and time again at Okloma State. But

710
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: even simple outs, he's rounding those routes. Yeah, he's any

711
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: corner that knows anything is gonna bite. I mean we

712
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: saw Holton Hill, one of the better corners in the

713
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: Big twelve University of Texas corner exactly. He did a

714
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: nice job against James Washington. And what I like most

715
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: about James Washington the vertical ability and then the ball skills, strong,

716
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 1: strong hand. Yeah, and so you kind of put it

717
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 1: kind of close to him. It's a little bit of

718
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: golden tatish. So I like James Washington. I think he's

719
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,359
Speaker 1: right there in the day two mix. I don't think

720
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: he's a first round player, and I have five receivers

721
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,359
Speaker 1: ahead of him. See, that's what I'm saying. Though, that's

722
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: where the height they meet people. I agree with these guys,

723
00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: are I thought they're spot on. I didn't think he

724
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 1: he was the smoothest route runner, but I thought he

725
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: could separate once he got going. Yeah he's a good athlete.

726
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: Yeah he's not Corey Coleman. Yeah, he's built like a

727
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: running back if you really want to look, he's five

728
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 1: eleven five, two hundred and five pounds. Looks like he's

729
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 1: almost six foot two hundred and five pounds. His speed

730
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: coming into this thing is four four five. But you

731
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: don't see him play with that quickness, you know. Yeah,

732
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: but you're right about catching that football. Yeah, I mean

733
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 1: you throw it near him, he's gonna go get it.

734
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 1: So I'm i en and Rudolph threw a bunch of

735
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 1: balls that he had to adjust to. Yeah, that's what

736
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: I'm saying. See, I like what you're saying about the

737
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl stuff too. Andre wants to know. Okay, he's

738
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: thinking that linebacker. Say, defensive tackle and wide receiver are

739
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: the of your needs, you know, give him, give him

740
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: your top three if you can dage like your linebacker

741
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: your defensive tackle on your wide receiver and Kat can

742
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: chime in on that if you'd like to. Well, linebacker,

743
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: I think there's two first round that's ro Kuan Smith

744
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmunds. Both could be off the board by then.

745
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: And then my third linebacker is Josie Jewell, who to me,

746
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: he's he's a Day two guy, second third round, and

747
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 1: then Rashaun Evans having the third round. Um, so right now,

748
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: that's in my linebackers. It's not a deep position, overly

749
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: deep position, especially early. Um. And that's the opposite with say,

750
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: defensive line, depending on what kind of you know, Yeah,

751
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 1: he was looking at a defensive tackle. Yeah, the one

752
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: or the Yeah, let's I think we needed time f one?

753
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 1: All right, you farmed? But threes and can you farm

754
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,879
Speaker 1: some once? Yeah? Yeah? The ones are easy, I think

755
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 1: with kti'll get them. But the threes and more he's

756
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: hearst to me is the top three right, um, the

757
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,760
Speaker 1: top three technique then herdis with all those guys staying

758
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 1: in right Clemson, Yeah, Clemson, I'm sorry Clinton. Yeah, Christian

759
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 1: Christian Wilkins and it helps more. He'shurst he has a

760
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: chance to go to Mobile next week and really separate himself. Uh,

761
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 1: the next three techniques probably Taven Brian from Florida. You

762
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: just think about a third round guy though right yet,

763
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: third round. He's a flash player. I'm a really good athlete.

764
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: If you get him to improve some of those inconsistencies,

765
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: he can be a pretty good player. But he's nothing

766
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: more than a flash player right now. And then the

767
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: next three technique on my board would be Rashime Green

768
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: from USC. A little bit of a confused skill set

769
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: because six four, two eighty five, but he can move.

770
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: He's a very good athlete, so right now, those would

771
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: be my early top three defensive tackles him. No, Vita

772
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: Vias the one went there, and I think I've drawn

773
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: Payne is my second technique, And I mean, if Vita's there,

774
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 1: I'm comfortable taking him and moving on. I just don't

775
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: know the team, the Cowboys, cos I don't know what

776
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: they think. If they want Mallie Collins to be a

777
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 1: three year old one, I don't think he'll be there.

778
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: I used to be a three. I don't think you'll

779
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: be there either. I don't think Vida will be there.

780
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: I don't think Roquan Smith will be there. I don't

781
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 1: think Tremaine Edmonds will be there. And the other name,

782
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: the guy Mitched wide receiver. I think Calvin Ridley is

783
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 1: gonna be there. In the mock draft I did. All

784
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: of those names were off the board. Yeah, and you

785
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: have them taking Michigan defensive lineman again. So we're gonna

786
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: research at Hurst next to Malie Collins and go go

787
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: get him. Yeah, you know in Hurst plays no tackle

788
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 1: at Michigan some so height eight, right, we'll see what

789
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: is at the the senior ball. You can see if

790
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: he's thinks put on some weight. I just hope he's

791
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: six five, I believe. Yeah, I hope he's closer to

792
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: ninety five. Yeah, it doesn't have to be three hundred

793
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: and ten pounds. No, closer to ninety five good weight.

794
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,280
Speaker 1: He just do you watch him? He surges off the snap,

795
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,280
Speaker 1: he quickly finds the ball. Oh no, he's a good players,

796
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: really good. He is a good player. And we talked

797
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: about the wide receivers though, real the top three we've

798
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: already given those, right, Yeah, Ridley Kirk, I think the

799
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 1: top two and then DJ Moore, Anthony Miller, those are

800
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 1: my top four receivers. I think I'm really gonna have

801
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: a tough time. When I look at my receiver rankings

802
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 1: five to fifteen, I'm gonna have a tough time stacking

803
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: those guys my top four. I feel confident it's Calvin Ridley,

804
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk, DJ Moorean, Anthony Miller. Yeah, where's gallop on

805
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: their Dane? He's in that five fiftime trying to again

806
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: talking about the Senior Bowl. Gallup, James Washington, figuring those

807
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: guys out the Senior Bowl will be really beneficial. Okay, kid,

808
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: we have a call, Bunny chance fourthinishing to do? We

809
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: have Let's go overseas to Philip in France. Philip, first,

810
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 1: let me wish wish anyone in Cabol's nation, and I

811
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: remember of Dallas Cowboys dot Com cruit happy a year

812
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 1: and my best wishes for two K eighteen. Thank you, sir,

813
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: Thanks for thanks, mister Hilphan for the two week draft shows.

814
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 1: I love that and I will and I hope it

815
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,320
Speaker 1: will understand all of this offseason. If you guys behind

816
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: the mic are okay with that and ready to go

817
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,720
Speaker 1: to the distance. Brian, Yes, So you remember I called

818
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 1: on in Talking Caboys show after the Week three game

819
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: about the Domino effect on the online. Okay, I'm back

820
00:39:56,440 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: charging again about the online of just see. We need

821
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: a left guards. I don't expect Jonathan Cooper to be

822
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,839
Speaker 1: back next season, and I have no trust in chess

823
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,760
Speaker 1: Grain so far. Okay, I think we need a badass,

824
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: smaller brower at a late Mark Tuney or Kickvin Coogan,

825
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: Famyalen or soon to be All of Famer bid Nate

826
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: Newton to play between Travis Frederick and Tyron Smith. My

827
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: question is, could you give me your absolute top five

828
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: guard or take hole too able to side inside in

829
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: that mold and their university so I could watch them

830
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 1: on streaming from France and where would you be comfortable

831
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: to pick them? Thanks for taking Michael, have a great day,

832
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:52,280
Speaker 1: Good Tigers, good Cowboys. Thank you appreciate that. How about that, Katie?

833
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: Pretty amazing the reach of the draft, reach of the

834
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: draft gard all the way to France. Thank you for that.

835
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: We've talked about the guards. Yeah, we talked about Nelson,

836
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: We've talked about Smith from Auburn, potentially Will Hernandez from

837
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 1: UTEP's another one I haven't seen on your list. Austin Corbett. Yeah,

838
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: college left tackle is gonna move instide from Nevada, or

839
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: he'll be a Senior Bowl guy. And then and then

840
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: you talked about a win Isaiah Win from Georgia. A

841
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: few of the guards in the Wyatt Teller from Virginia Tech,

842
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 1: Tony Adams from NC State, and the guy alike, and

843
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: a few underclassmen came out, Taylor Hearne and Maya Tahima

844
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: LSU transfer Okay Southeast Louisiana this past year. I think

845
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Speaker 1: a couple of the guard prospects to know. As for

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Speaker 1: the tackles, there's gonna be a lot of discussion about

847
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: how these guys stack up. You know, is Connor Williams

848
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 1: the top guy? Orlando Brown? Where does he fit in

849
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 1: this mix? McGlinchey, Brian O'Neill. I mentioned a cora for

850
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: who has a bright future? Yeah, where a lot of

851
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: things to figure out, a lot of things use. This

852
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: tackle and guard class is really interesting to figure out.

853
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 1: I could. I won't be surprised. I think in my

854
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 1: mock I had four tackles going in the first round,

855
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: even though I don't think four tackles are four the

856
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 1: top thirty two players in this draft. But we need

857
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 1: every team needs every quarterbacks didn't hit a lot exactly, exactly,

858
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,880
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Speaker 1: Stain Burglar, Kevin kat Turner. Let's get to Kevin's game

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Speaker 1: of NFL Draft Jeopardy. Yeah, I've always wanted to be

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00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: the five categories I have here are big nasties which

912
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 1: is offensive and defensive lineman, cool runnings which is running

913
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: backs in the twenty eighteen draft, who needs power five?

914
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 1: Those are small school prospects. We've got getting Handsy that's

915
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: a wide receivers in the twenty eighteen draft and then

916
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 1: senior bowling guys who will be participating in the Senior Bowl.

917
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: Now backstage, Dane, you won the toss, so you will

918
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: go first, Dane, what category would you like to choose?

919
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: All right, let's do cool runnings for three points. Three

920
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 1: points for cool runnings. The classic rock enthusiasts will really

921
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 1: identify with this Auburn wayward Son running back from Auburn.

922
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: Carry on Johnson, carry on Johnson. I like that. I

923
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: like that. It's one of my I like that. So

924
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 1: he gets he gets three points, three points. He gets

925
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 1: to keep the board right. Now, I'm gonna ahead and

926
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: get it to you. Let's picture we both get Yeah,

927
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: let's go with uh hey, let's go with uh big

928
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:59,760
Speaker 1: nasties for two please for two points. This potential Cowboys

929
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 1: target and space eating defensive lineman's name rhymes with the

930
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 1: former all time college football rushing leader Cowboys target at

931
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 1: nineteen space eater one technique name rhymes former You know

932
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: his name rhymes with the former college football rushing leader.

933
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you're you're on the right track with but

934
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: it's it rhymes with Ron Dane. It's gonna be pay

935
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 1: oh No two points. I was thinking space eater. It's

936
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 1: good guy, he's a space eater. He's okay, got that

937
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:39,800
Speaker 1: if you know he likes to really play. If the

938
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: game has a lot ron Dane pay, Oh gosh, so bad.

939
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Speaker 1: Now it's gonna be great. I got you. Go ahead,

940
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 1: let's go over to Dane. Okay, let's change it up.

941
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: Let's do senior bowling for Let's go three again, three

942
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: points senior bowling. I'm gonna warn you that this clue

943
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: is a little bit long. Okay, So just to get

944
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: that out of the way, this Senior Bowl offensive play

945
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 1: not only learned how to play quarterback, but also learned

946
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 1: to many other psychological wonders of the world playing for

947
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: the coach who was wrongfully dismissed by Texas Tech back

948
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 1: in the day. Okay, it's gonna be who is Luke fall?

949
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: That is Luke Falk? It is? This is this abyss

950
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: about to be an ass kid? That's gonna be there.

951
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 1: What do you think do you worry about Luke Falk? Uh?

952
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: I worry about a arm strength. We know that's a problem.

953
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 1: But do you wonder like, uh, maybe he's got a

954
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: lot going on in his head. Maybe just because he

955
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: played for Leach. I love him Mike Leach, but yeah, no,

956
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 1: I agree. Coming from that system, right, senior ball is

957
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 1: gonna be interesting for him. See how he handles that.

958
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: Do you think he's I mean, but he's got he's

959
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: got talent. I would you know me and quarterbacks? I'm

960
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 1: it's like, I'm not a fan personally. Yeah, he's a

961
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 1: Day three player that at best, he's a backup. I

962
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: don't see. I don't see much with him, but though

963
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,399
Speaker 1: about ice cream, Yeah, some team will like him. Oh

964
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: let's go get handsy for three for three points. Yeah,

965
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: this is a West Coast wide receiver. Broadest showed the

966
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 1: ability to get separation on tape, but it is concerning

967
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 1: how tiny he is. West Coast get separation tiny weighs

968
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: in about one seventy Who is uh Pettis. It's not

969
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 1: Pettis steal playing for the still Burnett. It is Burnett.

970
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: Oh the usc USC guy KT kind of the same.

971
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: I'm sorry you're these are great clues and I well

972
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: they're not super That wasn't a bad guys because Pettis

973
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 1: is underside under the same type of thing, right, Yeah,

974
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: that was not a wor KT The boss is gonna

975
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 1: Derek's gonna have a word with you, making me look

976
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: bad in this time. I'm only kid. No, it's good, No,

977
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 1: that you're doing a great job. I think this is

978
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: a great I think it's crazy awesome. Okay, what is

979
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,879
Speaker 1: it like? Seven to nothing already? I don't have a score?

980
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter, obviously, it doesn't matter because it's smart about

981
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 1: talking about the players. Yeah, no, but he does. You're

982
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: right though, that kid can't separate though. It's a player though, right,

983
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: slot player and it's just a linebacker is gonna come

984
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: in and just kind of pig bad wolf, huff and

985
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: puff blow him down. Like that's still worry. I mean

986
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: I watched him. I was like, oh my god, don't

987
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: get hit. Don't get hit, like I was worried about it.

988
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 1: And that's also part of the Sam Darnold evaluation that

989
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 1: that was clearly his best receiver. Yeah, so that's that's

990
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: part of that. Let's go to the the who Needs

991
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: Power five? We haven't done that one yet. Who Needs

992
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 1: Power is getting out of hand? Uh this? Uh man?

993
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: I actually actually messed up on the on the clue

994
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: on this one to do another number. Okay, let's do

995
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: let's go five. Let's go for it all. Okay, go

996
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: for it all? Five foot steal one, five foot ten

997
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 1: and a half. He broke all of Isaac Bruce's records.

998
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: Anthony Miller, that is, Anthony Miller got that wick. He

999
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: would have had that right, right, I would have got

1000
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: We talked about that. Kathy's feeling bad because I mean

1001
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: these clues right, sorry, this is your one right here?

1002
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: Okay man, it was at the bar when I put

1003
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: this game together. Are you now the step up? I've

1004
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 1: been watching Pittsburgh. Oh, let's go. Let's go with uh,

1005
00:49:56,920 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: let's go with uh cool runnings for what do we

1006
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 1: got left? Two? Just well, let's do. Let's do team

1007
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 1: so far behind? Give me the one for ten? Okay, well,

1008
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 1: just the one for ten? Okay. Uh. He was neglected

1009
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter of the National Championship game brought us.

1010
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 1: But I've given him the nickname PlayStation Yeah. Who is

1011
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 1: uh Shny Michelle? Tony Michelle. That's for ten. I'm back

1012
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 1: in the game. Is back in the game. In fact,

1013
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 1: he's taken the leading I like that, PlayStation Yeah, I

1014
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,439
Speaker 1: like that. So the Sony and where is he gonna

1015
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 1: end up? A second round. I think came in Chubb

1016
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: are both top sixty guys. Is he gonna be the

1017
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 1: one guy when everybody when they look back on this

1018
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: thing and they see all those guys that I mean,

1019
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 1: all the these running backs that we've talked about, the

1020
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 1: Barcleys of Johnson's, the Jones from USC, Are they going

1021
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 1: to look back at say they all those guys went

1022
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: ahead of him, same thing what we with with Kamara.

1023
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: You know that kind of where they end up is

1024
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 1: a big part of it. You know, if Alvin Kamara

1025
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: doesn't go to the Saints, doesn't have that opportunity, who knows.

1026
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 1: You know, he's a good player, but where these guys

1027
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 1: end up is a big part of it. Yeah, I

1028
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 1: don't know. I've like Sony Michell all year. He's been

1029
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: great all year, and it's just you were worried about

1030
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: that maybe he got your over a vote. Get he's

1031
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 1: getting hid Wait, I mean I'm hearing first round and

1032
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: it's just like he's a good player, but I don't

1033
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: see a first round player. So I mean, Sony Michell

1034
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: is a very good player. I think he's him and

1035
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,720
Speaker 1: Chubb been my top two seater back since the summer.

1036
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 1: Real quick him or Jones from usc Uh give me Jones.

1037
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: I agree, but I mean I haven't closed usc is.

1038
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: I'm in both second round. Jamal Charles, Jamal, Well, that's

1039
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 1: high praise, right, think it is? Then Sonny Michelle and

1040
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb two like being on the same team. It

1041
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 1: is weird. But to me, like people talk about, well

1042
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: who should go high? Well, I think it just matters

1043
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 1: what the team needs like that, that's all gonna matter

1044
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 1: about fit for them, just because they're a little bit different.

1045
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 1: And that's part of the evaluation too. If for Sony

1046
00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 1: Michelle is he didn't have to be the bell cow,

1047
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb was the bell cow? Is there gonna Is

1048
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: there gonna be any back in this draft better than

1049
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 1: Barkley when it's said and done, it could happen. Is

1050
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 1: there one guy who teams didn't think there'd be a

1051
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: back better? And Trent Richardson in the twenty twelve draft

1052
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 1: that third overall? Right? Yeah, that was another game. Maybe

1053
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:20,919
Speaker 1: be careful with running backs, you know, Okay, let's stick

1054
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 1: with cool runnings. Let's see what we we five like

1055
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 1: running back? How many? How many you down? How many

1056
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: is you down? Now? That hit the time? Yeah? The

1057
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: zero zero. Uh. You want to go for the big

1058
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 1: money though, right, go for the big money. This twenty

1059
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 1: eighteen draftable runner who I admittedly have not seen yet.

1060
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:42,439
Speaker 1: He shares the same last name a former Packers wide

1061
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 1: receiver and former Bucks Bad quarterback pack twelve guys. I

1062
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 1: didn't give you a very specific clues here because I

1063
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 1: haven't seen the player again. Shares the same last name

1064
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: with former nineties Packer wide receiver, former Bad Bucking Years

1065
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 1: quarterback running back. That is Royce Freeman. That is correct,

1066
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 1: Antonio Freeman and Josh Freeman. Nice. I like it. I

1067
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,399
Speaker 1: like that. Good. That's a good clue. Bad. What about

1068
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: him though? Have you seen him? I haven't looked at

1069
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 1: him at all. He's a four year guy Oregan, right, Yeah, surprise,

1070
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 1: he came back for a senior year, came back, had

1071
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 1: a solid season. I don't see a lot of juice.

1072
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: He's not a big explosive guy, but he's got good vision. Uh,

1073
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: he knows how to you know, pick through the defense.

1074
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 1: A senior Bowl guy, So have a chance. Okay, good, good.

1075
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 1: He's just kind of what he is. He's more of

1076
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: a third round or fourth rounder. Another one of those

1077
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: consolation prizes if you don't get your you know, the

1078
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 1: top six or seven running backs. Yeah, it's like every

1079
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,600
Speaker 1: year though, That's that's a good sweet spot for a

1080
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:51,399
Speaker 1: lot of running backs, you know, into the third round. Yeah, yeah,

1081
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 1: you had to run there a couple of years ago.

1082
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 1: Was that that group? It went like in the seventies?

1083
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: Was it like seventy two three? I mean they had Johnson? Yeah, yeah,

1084
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 1: yeah guys, yeah, Chash Green year where Coleman was also

1085
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 1: in that was it Tevin Coleman? Yeah, I even fell

1086
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 1: even further with the name. No, I think it. Tevin

1087
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 1: Coleman was a second round guy, second or third. Yeah,

1088
00:54:15,480 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 1: he was second round. I'm some days I remember this

1089
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 1: and some days that obvious. The whole new batch of

1090
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: players every year, it's really hard to keep. That's what.

1091
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: You know what that's a problem with a lot of

1092
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: scouts that you all of a sudden, you you you, you,

1093
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 1: you're so focused on a draft and then you lose,

1094
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 1: and when it's over, you forget these guys. Yeah, you're

1095
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 1: trying to compare them to guys you've had before. The

1096
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 1: mind only has so much space, you know, it's like

1097
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 1: a computer, You only have so much storage. And when

1098
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,320
Speaker 1: you have to scout over a thousand guys, you know,

1099
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,280
Speaker 1: it's just you kind of you have to lose something,

1100
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: so you know it's better that than your kid's names. Yeah,

1101
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 1: no kidding. Yeah, I thought you get accused by your

1102
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 1: wife of forgetting you. You can't remember what you're supposed

1103
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: to do, but you can remember who you have to

1104
00:54:58,239 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 1: buccaneers soon. Yeah, you have to work a little bit

1105
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 1: harder just to make sure that you're not lacking in that.

1106
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 1: It's all about balance, Brian, you know that. Yeah, yes,

1107
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:10,280
Speaker 1: that's why I'm single. Right now, over to you, Brian. Yeah, Ford,

1108
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 1: let's go with a little let's uh, let's go senior

1109
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:14,320
Speaker 1: bowling again. All right, I need to learn about the

1110
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 1: senior Bowl. I'm not gonna get into this right, but

1111
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 1: go ahead, all right. This senior bowler to me is

1112
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: known as that other Oklahoma statewide receiver. Who is that

1113
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:26,359
Speaker 1: is Marcel? Yeah? Yeah, and he is the other one.

1114
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: But if you tell me in three years he has

1115
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,480
Speaker 1: the better career than Washington, wouldn't shock man? Gonna make

1116
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 1: that guy mad who asked about Jaff Washington being under hyped.

1117
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying it will happen that was, Yeah,

1118
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 1: that was who was that that asked about old? Uh? Yeah,

1119
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:43,399
Speaker 1: that was. Hey, Marcel's a cool name too. Yeah, well

1120
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:45,879
Speaker 1: ask you this specialized guy because he's big and he's

1121
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 1: gonna win those contested catches. Yeah, but does he run? No? Well,

1122
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying, is a specialized guy. You know,

1123
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:52,680
Speaker 1: he's not gonna be your ex he's not gonna be

1124
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 1: your number one receiver, but you use him, uh to

1125
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 1: move the sticks, You move him in the red zone.

1126
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 1: Big possession guys gonna win those contested catches. Is that

1127
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 1: what the Cowboys have? Now? I hate to say, I'm

1128
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 1: just I'm just talking about a team. If if there's

1129
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 1: a team that doesn't need an eight man, or doesn't

1130
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 1: need a sudden or doesn't need Scott Jeli Scott Jolile

1131
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 1: Scott from Date. Yeah, and he's a little different too

1132
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:26,839
Speaker 1: because he's like six six two twenty like, so he's big,

1133
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: but he's more tall than large physical. But yeah, no,

1134
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: I agree, especially a team like this that you think

1135
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,359
Speaker 1: really subscribes to the X y Z you know, does

1136
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 1: is their X? They have their X. What they look

1137
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: for in a Z. That's why I love Calvin Ridley

1138
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 1: so much for the Cowboys. That's the perfect Z for

1139
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:46,399
Speaker 1: what this team wants. But that's not the Sutton. He's

1140
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: not a Z. No, he'd be an X in this

1141
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 1: and you just don't need another big, physical guy that

1142
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 1: has trouble running rounds man. There's a lot of questions

1143
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:56,839
Speaker 1: with the wide receiver group. Like even even Kurk, who

1144
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 1: I have first round grade on, I said, am I

1145
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: ready to go? Give him the ball? A lot? I

1146
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 1: mean I'm ready to go get him ninety catches? Well,

1147
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 1: and the big catch, The big thing with him is

1148
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 1: can you play outside? Yeah? Slot? We talk about every

1149
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 1: show build though. He's not a small guy, but he

1150
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 1: was a slot only player in college and so you know,

1151
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 1: it's a projection to say that he can kick outside,

1152
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 1: and I think he can, but it's his value as

1153
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 1: a slot player even more. I think he's a high

1154
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 1: floor receiver. You know, he doesn't have a high ceiling,

1155
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 1: but his floor is pretty high. See. The thing the

1156
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 1: thing I really like about him though, when they do

1157
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 1: get him the ball, he's he's going places. Yeah. See

1158
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: I don't. Who do they have here now that get

1159
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 1: ghost place? No, they don't, and that's why they don't

1160
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 1: have good yards after catch stats. Yeah, and that's you know,

1161
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 1: that was a big problem with the offense. And when

1162
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 1: you factor in with Kirk the special teams, that's a

1163
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 1: big part of it. He averaged a punt return touchdown

1164
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 1: every six punts. That's awesome. One of my favorite stats

1165
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 1: in this draft. His career punt return average is better

1166
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 1: than his career return average on kick returns. He averaged

1167
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: twenty one yards per kick return. Christian Kirk on punts

1168
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: average twenty one point four yards per punt return. That's ridiculous. Yeah,

1169
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: who has a better punt return average than kick return average?

1170
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 1: This guy does. That tells you about what kind of

1171
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 1: impact you can make. My guy, my guy h Hughes,

1172
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 1: Mike Hughes, Myke Hughes for for Central Florida is like

1173
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 1: a big punt kick return or big awesome. He had

1174
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 1: four touchdowns this past year, two one kicks, one on punt,

1175
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 1: one interception. He loves that player. Take him at nineteen?

1176
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yes, would you take him at nineteen? Yeah?

1177
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 1: You had a corner, okay if you okay, say Ward

1178
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 1: and Fitzpatrick or Gaune. He's my number three corner. I

1179
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 1: would take Hughes Overward is he a number two corner?

1180
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 1: Then number two corner nice right behind Minka and then

1181
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 1: Ward is three. Okay, I've got Minka, Ward Hughes, and

1182
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 1: I love Lord, I love Ward two. Yeah, I just

1183
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 1: know there's something about Hughes watching last night getting in

1184
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,960
Speaker 1: your fight. I just pushed the sideline classic press man.

1185
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 1: Why are people not talking about him? You see? If

1186
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 1: the thirteen the national champion Drake one Smith the other

1187
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 1: receiver Smith, Yeah, shout out to Jay Russ's magic fan

1188
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 1: who said to watch him on Twitter and we did

1189
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,919
Speaker 1: it and appreciate that. Yeah, another senior Bowl guy as

1190
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 1: a Richard junior graduate. Yeah, you see, you see you

1191
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 1: have got some players. Yeah than they pay. They do

1192
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 1: have some players self proclaimed. But it's okay, all right, Katie,

1193
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 1: thanks so much for for doing that. I appreciate that.

1194
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 1: Thank you, and Dany congratulations for the victory. I'm sure

1195
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 1: he gets a prize pack. Yeah. Draft day Yeah, yeah,

1196
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 1: you know you get dated. I'll buy you. I'll buy

1197
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 1: you dinner at down there at the barbecue place, perfect,

1198
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 1: and we'll eat some ribs to gun down there at Dreamland.

1199
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: Get some Dreamland barbecue, all right for my Scouts, Dan Burglar,

1200
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 1: Kevin Kat Turner for executive producer, Can't Care Sign Brian Brouss.

1201
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 1: Thanks a kind. We'll see you next Thursday at eleven

1202
00:59:48,480 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 1: am for the Draft Show. Stay tuned.