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Speaker 1: Becomes Light with Heidi Hollis.

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Speaker 3: You are listening to Doctor Comes Light with me Heidi

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Speaker 3: to follow me on social media at one Heidi House

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Speaker 3: on most social media. You know, today's going to be

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Speaker 3: a little bit different because I got a special guest today.

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Speaker 3: So I'm going to jump right on into this interview

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Speaker 3: with Melissa Tittle, who is an investigative journalist in ancient civilizations,

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Speaker 3: sci fi, and the science fields. But she also produces

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Speaker 3: content with some of the biggest names in that space

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Speaker 3: and and TV shows for several major networks. So I'd

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Speaker 3: like to welcome Melissa Tittle to the show. It's so

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Speaker 3: great to have you on here. How are you doing good?

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Speaker 4: So awesome to be here. I'd love Coast to coast.

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Speaker 4: We were talking before we started recording Girl Power.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yes, oh man man, I mean it's really refreshing

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Speaker 3: in all honesty, and you know, statistically speaking, whenever I

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Speaker 3: look at the numbers of who listens to these types

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Speaker 3: of radio shows, it's mostly women. So heck, yes, we

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's not enough of us, no no.

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Speaker 3: So i'man kudos to you and you are crazy busy

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Speaker 3: but I don't think I've ever seen I mean, somebody

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Speaker 3: I'm absolutely impressed, and I'm like, I have got to

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Speaker 3: talk to this lady. I've gotta talk to her.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 3: And I actually had a dream I was supposed to

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Speaker 3: reach out to you. Now that was weird.

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Speaker 4: Wow, okay, I want to know about that.

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Speaker 3: That was weird. Well I have to tell you later, okay,

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Speaker 3: But yeah, it was crazy. I was like, okay, you know,

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Speaker 3: is really as humbling and it's an honored heavy on

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Speaker 3: the program. I always like to get into what got

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Speaker 3: somebody to look into such a topic. I mean, you're

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Speaker 3: an investigative journalist into ancient civilizations, so how how did

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Speaker 4: I have been interested in anything that was unsolvable mysterious,

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Speaker 4: I'd say, even ancient ancient Egyptian stuff since I was

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Speaker 4: we don't know what that means, so we're just gonna

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Speaker 4: So there's just like a part of me that always

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Speaker 3: That's amazing. And so you're weirder than I thought.

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Speaker 3: Oh you're lucky, man, you were so lucky, because that

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Speaker 4: Air Force Base, which was in Washington, the state of Washington.

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Speaker 4: There was a UFO sighting, like if they saved the

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Speaker 4: So yeah, so that's like we talked about that stuff

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Speaker 3: But now you know the pattern because I've heard this

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Speaker 4: It could be. I mean, I've definitely covered a lot

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Speaker 4: definitely generations of alien contact within Air Force families. Yeah, yes,

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Speaker 4: I've definitely covered a lot of that. I try not

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Speaker 4: to make it personal. I have not personally had an

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Speaker 3: Oh oh oh, so we do have to go there?

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Speaker 3: You know that now, Melissa, Right, you cannot just drop

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Speaker 3: let's go there. So what on earth? What did you experience?

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's just not as sexy as having physical

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Speaker 4: So I went into that room. You know, I just

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Speaker 3: So I have Melissa Tiddle and my goodness, this is incredible.

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Speaker 4: get there, he could be back in the ship he was.

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Speaker 4: He was getting communication with him, and we hooked him

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Speaker 4: up to all these electrodes and everything, and I thought,

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Speaker 4: oh my god, this is so great. This is main

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Speaker 4: stream TV.

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Speaker 3: That's awesome.

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Speaker 4: So I think there's it's definitely changing. But but I

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Speaker 4: did a talk on this at Roswell the Roswell New

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Speaker 4: Mexico Festival and I and I said, you know, everyone

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Speaker 4: wants to know who's like, what's the agenda? And the

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Speaker 4: thing is is like, there's not just one agenda. You

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Speaker 4: have to with what's keeping the most of your attention?

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Speaker 4: Is it fear? Is it because you want the truth?

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Speaker 4: Is it because you're curious? You know, all of that

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Speaker 4: drives money in the system, So you're if you're if

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Speaker 4: if then the entertainment if people want to blame the

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Speaker 4: entertainment industry, but they're feeding off of people wanting to

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Speaker 4: feel something when they watch an alien show.

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Speaker 3: Now that so we got to get to our next break.

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Speaker 3: You guys, you are listening to Darkly Comes Light with

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Speaker 3: me Heidi Hollis on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast.

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Speaker 3: I am there are a normal podcast network. We'll be

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Speaker 3: right back. Welcome back. You are listening to Dark Becomes

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Speaker 3: Light with me Heidi Hollis on the iHeart Radio and

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Speaker 3: Coast to coast, AM, you're a normal podcast network. We

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Speaker 3: are having a girlfriend chat here with Melissa Tittle and

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Speaker 3: there's no slowing us down. I mean, my goodness. I

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Speaker 3: love the fact that again you ancient aliens. I mean,

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Speaker 3: like that is literally history. I mean that's like historic

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Speaker 3: stuff right there. And you're the first, I mean the beginning.

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Speaker 3: And I'm from the start, so I didn't know you

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Speaker 3: started from the start like that. That's that's amazing. I

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Speaker 3: knew you were a part of it. But hot doc,

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Speaker 3: So I mean, when you're you're diving into these things,

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Speaker 3: you know, I think it's uh, it's fantastic that you

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Speaker 3: had that backing that you did first coming up as

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Speaker 3: a kid and then you know, going professionally into this

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Speaker 3: stuff without baton and I like, I got this. Oh,

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Speaker 3: I know we're going. I mean, I think that's half

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Speaker 3: the battle in getting a really good show is having

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Speaker 3: somebody like you, and that's rare those people that have

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Speaker 3: the interest. But like you were born for this.

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Speaker 4: And all this weirdness. I was like, Okay, let's do this.

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Speaker 3: It's amazing. And to be a lady in this look

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Speaker 3: being like myself in this it's not easy.

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Speaker 4: Man, Oh, it is not easy. It's so funny because

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Speaker 4: you know, I don't think that enough. You know, women's

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Speaker 4: voices are respected in the space of being like a researcher,

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Speaker 4: investigative journalist. A lot of men it's almost as if

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Speaker 4: like the conscious community has not caught up with the

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Speaker 4: rest of the world and that sort of equality and equality.

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying, oh, because women and men are the

484
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Speaker 4: same or any of that, but the most important thing

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Speaker 4: about how both men and women in any profession or

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Speaker 4: doing anything is that it's always going to be a

487
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Speaker 4: different perspective, and that different perspective lends itself to finding

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Speaker 4: new truths and whatever that is. It could be bird

489
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Speaker 4: investigations or UFO investigations, it doesn't matter where it is.

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Speaker 4: It's just it's like, if everybody's interested in what the

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Speaker 4: truth is, then I think that there needs to be

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Speaker 4: more of these different kinds of voices in that space

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Speaker 4: so that we can start to look at things a

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Speaker 4: little bit different. We're just otherwise, we're just going around

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Speaker 4: the same circle, like the trajectory, the craft and the thing,

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Speaker 4: and it's like, okay, that's all important, but like there's

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Speaker 4: got to be something else going on.

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Speaker 3: As well, even the diverse voices. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 3: I'm wrapped all in one here, and it's like I

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Speaker 3: have literally in the past, I'm not kidding, you had

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Speaker 3: producers contact me and say, wow, you know so much. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I kind of named and defined and you know, let

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Speaker 3: people know about these two topics. Yeah, well, we can't

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Speaker 3: have a woman lead. Can you teach a guy everything?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 3: Good? Yeah, it's like what you know, it is a

507
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Speaker 3: crazy world out there. It's like, yeah, let's not reflect

508
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Speaker 3: what the world looks like. You know, let's make it

509
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Speaker 3: all guys show you know, it's it's weird and I

510
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Speaker 3: never could understand it. I'm like, you know, this is

511
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Speaker 3: a real world. There's a lot of different people who

512
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Speaker 3: have experienced a lot of things and getting, like you said,

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Speaker 3: their voices out, their perspectives out. I think it it

514
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Speaker 3: really highlights, uh and encompasses so much because there's cultural differences.

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Speaker 3: There's different belief systems, you know, and different approaches. You know,

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Speaker 3: us ladies, we want to we want to understand and

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Speaker 3: feel it out. Guys want to measure things so.

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Speaker 4: Right, and then we need both right, we do.

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Speaker 3: We need that balance, We need that balance and uh,

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Speaker 3: you know. So, I'm just I'm thrilled to know you

521
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 3: have been out there and you have been doing it.

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Speaker 3: Now you're in front of the camera doing it too.

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Speaker 3: I mean, tell us about some of these programs that

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Speaker 3: that you've been hosting. I mean, where are you going

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Speaker 3: with this?

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Speaker 4: I don't know where I'm going with it, but I'm

527
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Speaker 4: definitely going into fields and dark spaces and looking for

528
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Speaker 4: stuff that is that's where they keep sending me. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So I co hosted with Ben Hansen a series called

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Speaker 4: UFO Witness and we that aired earlier this year, and

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Speaker 4: that was awesome. That was definitely an experience and we

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Speaker 4: have some cool Like I said, I thought they pushed

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Speaker 4: the boundaries a lot further than some of these other

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Speaker 4: shows that I've been And even a year before that,

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Speaker 4: we did Invasion I did. I co hosted Hudson Invasion,

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Speaker 4: which is all about what's been going on the Hudson

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Speaker 4: Valley since the eighties, which is lots of UFO activity, abductions,

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Speaker 4: strange lights in the sky, missing time. Hudson Valley is

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Speaker 4: just a hot spot.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say, what on earth is causing all

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Speaker 3: of that?

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Speaker 4: What?

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Speaker 3: What do you feel that is.

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Speaker 4: You know, I don't know. I mean, there's all I

545
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Speaker 4: got into a big investigative rabbit hole, but the producers

546
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Speaker 4: didn't really think it was sexy. You know, it might

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Speaker 4: not have been. But there's a actual a very diverse

548
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Speaker 4: amount of vegetation and animal life that was reported by

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Speaker 4: the USGS and several government papers that I found from

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Speaker 4: I don't know, early two thousands. One was written in

551
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Speaker 4: the late seventies, and they've been studying this this it's

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Speaker 4: just unique the way that the vegetation grows and the

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Speaker 4: animal life there. Also there's definitely a lot of unique

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Speaker 4: properties of rock, not just granted, there's all sorts of

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Speaker 4: different kinds of ancient rock and layers of it. You

556
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Speaker 4: know that could be. That's always a factor when you're

557
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Speaker 4: looking into some of these UFO stories because you're thinking, Okay, well,

558
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Speaker 4: what would make this if this is a portal and

559
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 4: all sorts of weird stuff is happening, bigfoot cryptos, you

560
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Speaker 4: know that kind of thing. Is it if it's a portal?

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Speaker 4: Is it because of the makeup of the rock, And

562
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Speaker 4: there is definitely that going on there. But it's just

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Speaker 4: a hot spot, and it's to the point where like

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Speaker 4: I've been. There's so much Like that's my second show

565
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Speaker 4: there investigating that. My fiance was like, Hey, do you

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Speaker 4: want to like go up to Hudson Valley and get

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Speaker 4: a cabin? And I'm like, hell no, no, no, no, no,

568
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Speaker 4: I will not. Do you know what happened to Willy Driver.

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Speaker 4: I'm not. That's not happening to me.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that's crazy. And it's true. You know,

571
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Speaker 3: like a lot of people are like, oh, I want

572
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Speaker 3: to go out and to this grave site and do

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Speaker 3: some grave rubbings. I'm like, are you kidding me? No,

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Speaker 3: that is not an.

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Speaker 4: Adventure, especially if it's high activity.

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Speaker 5: But yeah.

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Speaker 4: I also did the Whitley Streaber special that they did

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Speaker 4: on Discovery Plus called the Visitors, and it was we

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Speaker 4: went back to the actual cabin that he had his

580
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Speaker 4: experience and that's where we shot and uh, you know,

581
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Speaker 4: he got he came back to see it after all

582
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Speaker 4: this time, and it's pretty emotional for him and oh,

583
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Speaker 4: I bet yeah, it was. It's a pretty you know.

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Speaker 4: I was talking to some of the locals, you know,

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Speaker 4: off camera about the area and it's been like a

586
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Speaker 4: sacred area to the Native Americans and they found burial

587
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Speaker 4: sites there, So it's kind of like, again, we're dealing

588
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Speaker 4: with some kind of portal on top of a portal,

589
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Speaker 4: so you have all of Hudson Valley and then where

590
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Speaker 4: Whitley's house was some other kind of portals.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, So he didn't have a fighting chance,

592
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Speaker 3: that's what you're saying. No, it's wild to me. You know,

593
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Speaker 3: when neighbors start talking and realizing they're all experiencing similar things.

594
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Speaker 3: And I mean, I know you've heard of mass abductions.

595
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Speaker 3: I've met people who have been involved in and it's

596
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Speaker 3: like why, you know, why this area? What's calling it?

597
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Speaker 3: And it's like it has to be something like that,

598
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Speaker 3: like there there's something with the land, there's something with

599
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Speaker 3: an energy field. I mean, uh, there's there's so many

600
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Speaker 3: different elements. And you know, there's something to be said

601
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Speaker 3: to about some of these people who have experienced aliens

602
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Speaker 3: and are able to recall. Like I'm sure you've heard

603
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Speaker 3: these conversations with people who have been hypnotically regressed and

604
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Speaker 3: they're they're experiencing their their alien abduction and whatnot, and

605
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 3: they and the being starts talking through them instead of

606
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Speaker 3: them recalling what took place, and and there's this like

607
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Speaker 3: element where they they had an agreement with these beings,

608
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Speaker 3: like they remember this and that connection. I mean, what

609
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Speaker 3: are your thoughts about that when you've come across these stories.

610
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Speaker 4: About the beans they all experience.

611
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Speaker 3: Sure, is that realize that connection, like they are the

612
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Speaker 3: reason for calling these you know, activity to a certain area. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So that was when we were in Hudson Valley. We

614
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Speaker 4: spent a lot of time in one house because it's

615
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Speaker 4: it was kind of it felt like a train station

616
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Speaker 4: for all sorts of activity in one house. And it

617
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 4: was so crazy to me because these people wouldn't leave

618
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Speaker 4: and they'd been there, like generations have been there, and

619
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Speaker 4: they like you know, they even have like a bed

620
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Speaker 4: that they all sleep on when things get too crazy

621
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Speaker 4: in the house, Like that's how haunted aliens. You know,

622
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 4: weird stuff is happening there, right, that's amazing. But I

623
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Speaker 4: but when after being there, I thought to myself, I

624
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 4: feel that the actual people in this house are the conduit.

625
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 4: Somehow they're them being there. And I don't know if

626
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Speaker 4: it gets into the DNA conversation, that's a whole nother

627
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 4: ball of wax, but it could be that could be

628
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 4: part of that equation. They're they're them as DNA or

629
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Speaker 4: whoever they are are the conduit for the things to

630
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Speaker 4: pass through. And so when you're in places that are

631
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Speaker 4: thinner than others and you are somehow a conduit, then

632
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,760
Speaker 4: they want to use you to come through. And I

633
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 4: really felt that if those people left that house, those

634
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 4: experiences won't happen anymore. They would be gone.

635
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean it just it seems to be

636
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Speaker 3: definitely a parent. So I'm like, you're talking about Hudson

637
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Speaker 3: Valley and Whitley Streemer, and it's like, well, would it

638
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 3: have occurred to him no matter where he lived, you know,

639
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 3: because he is quite unique.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he did move, he had he you know,

641
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 4: in his in his uh you had to leave that

642
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 4: original cabin and he went to a different cabin, and

643
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 4: he did have some experiences. Again, it could be a

644
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 4: place that's thin to have those experiences, and people might

645
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 4: be I'm sure you experiences all the time. I mean

646
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Speaker 4: I feel that there's certain people that have experiences all

647
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Speaker 4: the time, and then when other people are with them

648
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 4: they see these experiences too. No. Yes, kind of feel

649
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 4: that there is there's people that are are specific conduits

650
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,240
Speaker 4: for certain frequencies right right.

651
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 3: And it's like, what did he bring it to that

652
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 3: whole valley?

653
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 4: I wouldn't do no, no, no, it has been going on

654
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 4: very very last I think, you know, I don't know

655
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 4: what happened in the eighties. I mean in the eighties

656
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 4: there was a Special Forces base and some top secret stuff.

657
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 4: I think just it's in Hudson Valley. It's an hour

658
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:39,760
Speaker 4: north of one of the biggest hotspots. It's in Hudson Valley.

659
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 4: And and you know, my dad brought it up to

660
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 4: me when I was going there, and I'm like.

661
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 6: Oh, that's interesting, you know, and one was the most active,

662
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 6: he said, the eighties. And I'm like, hmmm, right, are

663
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 6: we dealing with an alien interaction or are we dealing

664
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Speaker 6: with some kind of top secret project?

665
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 4: You know, maybe a little bit of both.

666
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 3: Oh. I wouldn't put it past anybody, to be honest,

667
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 3: But I mean, it's it's weird. It's like people get

668
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 3: called to areas too. I've known that there are certain areas,

669
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 3: you know, Ureka Springs is one of them, people moving

670
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 3: there spontaneously for you know, no good reason. But we're

671
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Speaker 3: going to get to our next break. You guys, you

672
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Speaker 3: are listening to Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis

673
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Speaker 3: on the iHeart Radio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal

674
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Speaker 3: Podcast Network. Stick around, We'll be right back. Welcome back.

675
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Speaker 3: You are listening to Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi

676
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Speaker 3: Hollis on the iHeart Radio and Coast to Coast AM

677
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Speaker 3: Paranormal Podcast Network. We are speaking with the awesome Melissa

678
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Speaker 3: Tittle and my goodness, you know we're talking about Code

679
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 3: twelve and I want people to get the opportunity to

680
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 3: go out to some of these festivals and watch it

681
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 3: and check it out. So how can they do that?

682
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 4: So if you go to all the website for the movie,

683
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 4: it's Coach fledthemovie dot com and subscribe, you'll get pre

684
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 4: content the stuff that didn't make the movie on all

685
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 4: sorts of weird patternistic stuff that we've discovered with the

686
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 4: idea of the world living in some kind of simulation,

687
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 4: and ancient texts and all sorts of interviews from all

688
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 4: sorts of people that if you're into ancient stuff, that

689
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 4: you will know and they'll definitely be a listing of

690
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 4: where you can watch a movie and then hopefully on

691
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 4: mainstream soon.

692
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 3: Awesome, you know, I got to ask you with all

693
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 3: the disclosure that's going on, and you know, there's a

694
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 3: lot of controversy. People are saying it's going to be

695
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 3: a false flag with aliens invading and everybody beware, you know,

696
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 3: and a lot of people aren't going to buy it,

697
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 3: and they're trying to prep each other to not buy it.

698
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 3: And you know, there's all these x you know, so

699
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 3: called ex government people who just so happen to be

700
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 3: in charge of disseminating this information, and so there's that

701
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 3: conflict too. And it's like and I always say, you know,

702
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 3: the government for such a long time has not been

703
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 3: very kind to people who have reported seeing these things,

704
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 3: and I have a hard time believing the kindness of

705
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 3: their heart. They just decided to Oh shucks, we're just

706
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 3: going to tell you we've been looking into this. You know,

707
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,280
Speaker 3: how do you feel about some of this controversy that

708
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 3: that's been going on, because it's it's frustrating for those

709
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 3: of us who've been out there, you know, working hard,

710
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 3: and you know, just it's UFOs Nope, but it's UAPs.

711
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 3: Well hold on, there's a difference, like, hold on, I've

712
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 3: been harassed for talking about this friends might have been

713
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 3: harassed talking about this, and you know, where do you

714
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 3: sit and how do you feel about it?

715
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 4: Well? I think that everything has a motivation, and so

716
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 4: you know what would be the motivation of coming out

717
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 4: and saying, hey, we've been looking into this. Well, we're

718
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 4: coming to an age now where information is just so fast,

719
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Speaker 4: Like it's not like the fifties or even the eighties

720
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 4: or even the nineties or they're early two thousands, Like

721
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 4: you can find stuff anywhere. And you know what I

722
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 4: tell people, you know I haven't worked in mainstream for

723
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 4: a really long time, is that it's the same thing

724
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 4: with Washington. Like if you're not buying, they're not selling.

725
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 4: If more people are like no, they're real, then like

726
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 4: why would they keep talking about it? Like the consensus

727
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 4: isn't Like it would just be like is that person talking?

728
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 4: They had to be they had to do something, They

729
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 4: had to like give something because more people are just

730
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 4: not buying it, It just doesn't make any sense. They

731
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 4: can't convince anybody otherwise. There's always going to be those

732
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 4: people that don't believe and they don't want to, but

733
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 4: there's too many people that are like no, not not

734
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 4: buying it, and so, but then what happens is that

735
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 4: becomes wrapped up in a political agenda because they don't

736
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 4: want it to get too far. They don't want people

737
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 4: to have too much power over that narrative of just

738
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 4: getting the truth. They want to wrap it up into

739
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 4: a political agenda. So now you have conversations with people

740
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 4: who might be open minded, but don't want to be

741
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 4: open minded because then that means they might be part

742
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 4: of a political party because they're now talking about aliens,

743
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 4: which is the whole point, so that it can't just

744
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,879
Speaker 4: be an open conversation about hey, could there be life

745
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 4: outside of what we know as humanity? And so that's

746
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 4: all agendas. That's why it's like, so I think that

747
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 4: the pressure that humans are putting on to on the

748
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 4: establishments to be like, no, it's not working for us

749
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 4: is good. That's how you find you find answers. I

750
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 4: think that's the only way I can really try to

751
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 4: explain that. I know all those stories too. And there's

752
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 4: definitely people who have been harassed and to be quiet

753
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 4: and now they're like, no, come and tell us. I mean,

754
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 4: you know there's two things going on that they do

755
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 4: on intel. I mean, what if it's not extraterrestrial or

756
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 4: you know, it could be a spy situation and they

757
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 4: want to know about it. But I think that everybody

758
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 4: needs to really put the power into the people. What

759
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 4: is it that we think, like, what is it believe?

760
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 4: And from there dictates where this alien conversation goes. Not

761
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 4: if the president stands at the podium and says, yeah,

762
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 4: they're they've been they're here, they've been here for a

763
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 4: long time, and everybody goes, I knew it, you know,

764
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 4: I guarantee still a population of people would not believe

765
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 4: it's true.

766
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 3: So oh oh, that's just so true. I had a

767
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,399
Speaker 3: friend was like, I won't believe it until I see

768
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 3: it with my own eyes. A big mothership came over

769
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 3: her head. My friend totally ratted her out and like

770
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 3: it took out all the power when it went over Heidie,

771
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 3: and she said, well, I don't believe my own eyes.

772
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 4: Done.

773
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 3: I'm just done. I'm like, you know, I think also

774
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 3: there's this inner conflict. You know, for so many centuries,

775
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 3: the church ruled the rule of thought, you know it,

776
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 3: you know, you went by these certain rules, and there's

777
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 3: a lot of people that really feel divided on their

778
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 3: faith and they're being aliens, and I'm like, look, I

779
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 3: can have my faith and still no aliens exist. And

780
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 3: but I under stand these conversations and these different religious temples.

781
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 3: You know, it's it's been conflicting. But who has the

782
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 3: most powerful observatories in the world, a Vatican. When we're

783
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 3: looking at you know, they know what's out there. You

784
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 3: know it's enough is enough, and it's time to just

785
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 3: be honest. We have connections out there in the universe.

786
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 3: And how do you think people would would accept that

787
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 3: that do have these hardcore religious beliefs.

788
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 4: Well, I have another project I'm working on, and so

789
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 4: this kind of to dips into those toes a little bit.

790
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 4: They won't give I can't give away everything, but I

791
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 4: will say that I think that we really need to

792
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 4: we really need to go into why humans must explore

793
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 4: something they can't see. That's number one. Number two, whoever

794
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 4: controls the conversation of the supernatural is in control of

795
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,240
Speaker 4: the hearts and the minds and the hopes the hope

796
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 4: of humans, right, because we can't solve that everything. We

797
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 4: have all this technology and we're still like, why did

798
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 4: that one thing happen to me that was so weird?

799
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 5: Right.

800
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 4: I mean, maybe you can ask chat GPT and they

801
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 4: can tell you and you'll be like a person with

802
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 4: that answer. The thing is is that there's always going

803
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 4: to be room for someone to come in and say,

804
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,399
Speaker 4: I understand exactly what's happening in the supernatural. And when

805
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 4: I say supernatural, I'm just saying beyond the veil that

806
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 4: we can't see physically with all of our sixth senses,

807
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 4: and that organization, that person, you know, then it turns

808
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 4: into religion or whatever is the gatekeeper between between that,

809
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 4: and we listen to that because we want to be

810
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 4: close to what that is. And that is the thing

811
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 4: that we can't understand that intrigues us, that that gets

812
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 4: us up in the morning and thinking, oh my god,

813
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 4: what if that happens good and bad? Right? And this

814
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 4: is since the beginning of time. This is this is

815
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 4: when first humans got together and created tribes. Is it

816
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 4: the one person who could read the supernatural, who could

817
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 4: intuitive figure out what was going to happen and when

818
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 4: it was going to rain and all that. This was

819
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 4: the beginning of this trajectory of where we have all

820
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 4: these different beliefs in religion and thought processes. So the

821
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 4: alien conversation is that conversation. And so when we're thinking

822
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 4: about agendas, and you know who's control of it, whether

823
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 4: it's the Vatican right with the biggest they're like, okay, well,

824
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 4: if the aliens are coming here, we're going to totally

825
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 4: take over that conversation because we're gonna have the biggest

826
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 4: observatory ever.

827
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

828
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 4: I mean honestly, the government leading away and saying, hey,

829
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 4: you know, we found all this stuff like they're coming out,

830
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 4: They're like, no, no, no, no, We've got this under control.

831
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 4: We've been investigating it, you know. So be aware of that.

832
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 4: Whoever owns the conversation of supernatural owns the tension of

833
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 4: humans because this is an important thing. Whether you believe

834
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:53,160
Speaker 4: in aliens or not, it's still the element of the supernatural.

835
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 3: It is absolutely coming. And yeah, I think there are

836
00:46:56,480 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 3: people and institutions putting themselves in that space, like you're saying,

837
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 3: you know, to be that bridge for them to interpret

838
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,720
Speaker 3: what are we looking at? Well, that is a craft,

839
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 3: you know, and what who's flying it? Well, those are

840
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 3: our space brothers and sisters. Oh man, you know, it's

841
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 3: it's been.

842
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

843
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, Melissa Tidle, I want to thank you

844
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 3: so much for coming on the show. How how can

845
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 3: people see all the different projects that you've been involved

846
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 3: with and what's what's on your site there?

847
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 4: Oh my god, thanks for asking. I'm really not good

848
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 4: at social media. I look at some of these people

849
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 4: that have just one show out and there, and they're

850
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 4: really good at social media, and I'm terrible, so terrible

851
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 4: about talking about myself. So thank you for inviting me

852
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 4: to talk about myself.

853
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, yeah, so are you kidding me? I was like,

854
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 3: and you have a graphic novel. I'm like, okay, cartoonist here,

855
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 3: can you tell us briefly, how the heck and why

856
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 3: the heck did you go there and doing a graphic novel?

857
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 3: It looks amazing, by the way.

858
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 4: Oh my god, hold on a long conversation, but I'll

859
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 4: make a short I had I was living in Venice

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Speaker 4: Beach at the time, and I was biking home from

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Speaker 4: like I get together, and I was looking up at

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Speaker 4: the stars and I had this whole download of this

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Speaker 4: like situation that happened during the Vietnam War. But these

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Speaker 4: alien hybrids crash landed in the jungle and they looked

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Speaker 4: human and they had their whole mission was to create

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Speaker 4: more chaos within the you know, not just the war

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Speaker 4: in Vietnam, but definitely to create chaos within the higher

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Speaker 4: rankings of just society. And this is during the sixties

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Speaker 4: and beginnings of the seventies, when obviously there was this

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Speaker 4: huge influx of thought process. All of a sudden, you know,

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Speaker 4: you went from the fifties, everybody was living in a

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Speaker 4: pink house and doing everything they're supposed to and listening

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Speaker 4: to the government, and then all of a sudden, it

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Speaker 4: was just an explosion of like people just doing whatever.

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Speaker 4: There's no they're thinking differently, and so it was this

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Speaker 4: whole kind of alien, highbred thing connected to Andromeda. Like

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Speaker 4: it was insane.

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Speaker 3: Oh yes, that sounds amazing. Wow. Well, hey, you guys

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Speaker 3: go check out Melissa Tittle dot com and hathor at

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Speaker 3: studios dot com and learn more about all of her projects.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much once again for coming on the

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Speaker 3: show today, Melissa.

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Speaker 4: Yay, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: Wow. Well we have come to the bottom of another

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Speaker 3: excellent program. I want to remind you guys to go

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Speaker 3: to my main website, which is Heidihollis dot com or

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Speaker 3: Shadowfolks dot com and check out my paranormal comic strip

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Speaker 3: Heidi Hollis and also at the Outlanders Comics. You know,

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Speaker 3: this has been just so insightful and I really enjoyed

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Speaker 3: the conversation. I did to think Melissa Tittle once again

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Speaker 3: for coming on the program. I also want to remind

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Speaker 3: have paranormal Pledges for anybody that has experienced anything out

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Speaker 3: And then there is shadow People in the hat Man

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Speaker 3: Experiencer that is for everybody that's dealing with these odd

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Speaker 3: I have faith the other F word, m hmm. That's

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Speaker 3: about the topic of faith, because it's rather important in

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Speaker 3: facing out here when it comes to especially shadow people

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Speaker 3: in hat Man. Gotta arm up, you know what I'm saying.

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