1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: Welcome. It is Vernict with center, Ted Kruz, Ben Ferguson 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: with you, and uh, we got a country to say. 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: I am under the weather. So if I sound a 4 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: little bit lower key, I want you to know why, 5 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 1: Senator you're beating me today. 6 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 2: You're somewhat under the weather. But I think you've got 7 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 2: more energy than I do. Well, I think that's probably right. 8 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 2: But but but hopefully neither of us cough cough up 9 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 2: along and we can we can talk about the great 10 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 2: things that that that that are happening in this country, 11 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 2: that are are really threatening our nation, and and that 12 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 2: gives you reason to fight even when you may not 13 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 2: feel great. 14 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 1: Amen to that. We've got a very interesting subject that 15 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: has popped up, and that deals with Kamala Harris. Well, 16 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 1: that's right. 17 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 2: Kamala's radical past keeps coming back to haunt her. She's 18 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 2: trying to run a presidential campaign pretending not to be 19 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 2: a radical leftist, and the problem is truth keeps getting 20 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 2: in the way. We now have video and audio of 21 00:00:54,560 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: her at a rally chanting down with deportation and amazingly 22 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 2: doing it right next to discredited hustler Jesse Smolette, and 23 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 2: they're chatting with the whole mob. Up with education, down 24 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 2: with deportation. It's really quite remarkable. We're going to talk 25 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 2: about that. We're also going to talk about a story 26 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 2: unlike any I've ever seen before, which is Ukraine's president 27 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 2: Zelenski came to Pennsylvania and is essentially campaigning for Kamala 28 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 2: Harris and he's attacking Donald Trump and JD. Vance. It 29 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,400 Speaker 2: is shocking. I do not recall ever seeing a foreign 30 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 2: leader do this. It's infuriating. We're going to talk about 31 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 2: that too. And finally, we're going to talk about a 32 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 2: hearing yesterday in the Senate Judiciary Committee where the Senate 33 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 2: Democrats once again are attacking the US Supreme Court. 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And when you see 85 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: this resurface video of her protesting against deporting migrants with 86 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: a disgraced celebrity, you go, man, I wonder how long 87 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: the media had this and they decide to sit on it. 88 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 2: Well clearly that they don't want people to see it, 89 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 2: and and and give a listen. You need to listen 90 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 2: to what Kamala Harris, the sitting vice president and someone 91 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 2: who right who wants to be president of the United States, 92 00:04:41,200 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 2: what she was happily chanting with the mob on the street. 93 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 2: I mean there it is up up with education, down, 94 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 2: down with deportation, saying we're not deporting anybody. 95 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: This is what she believes. Believe her when she says it. 96 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, and when you watch the video, they're all dancing joyously. 97 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 2: I mean it is. These are a bunch of radicals. 98 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 2: They support open borders. Kamala Harris is a radical. She 99 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 2: supports open borders. She always has. She's always voted for 100 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 2: open borders. She's always advocated for open borders, and right 101 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 2: now her strategy is to try to lie to the 102 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: American people. She is literally right now spending millions of 103 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 2: dollars running ads TV ads with video of Trump's border wall, 104 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 2: something she's opposed from day one, But for the next 105 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 2: six weeks on the campaign trail, she is going to 106 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 2: pretend that that she's all for securing the border and 107 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 2: all for deportation, unless God forbid, she wins, and then 108 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 2: you're gonna discover the open borders we've had in the 109 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 2: last four years, they're just getting started, and they're only 110 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 2: getting worse. 111 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,119 Speaker 1: Well, and you talk about that just a straight up lying. 112 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: You know, her new ad shows Trump's wall, which she 113 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: said was inhumane and that she would tear down and 114 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,799 Speaker 1: never allow and it should never be allowed to be built. 115 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: Now apparently she's in favor of it, but she's obviously not. 116 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: She's just trying to buy votes because she understands it's 117 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: a liability what's going on at the southern border right now, 118 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: and how every city in America has become a border city, 119 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: and every liberal city that was a sanctuary city has 120 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: now turned into a total disaster. And then you see 121 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: this video come back out, or this video come back up. 122 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: That they were a guest trying to hide because it's 123 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 1: not popular right now. And you know what she believes center, Like, 124 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: it's very clear she wants to flood the border with 125 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: illegal immigrants if she is elected president. And this also 126 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: comes as a new report has come out talking about 127 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 1: how Mexico has launched a massive operation through which migrants 128 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 1: are intercepted and apprehended in northern States, brought to the 129 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: corner of the country furthest from the US border, then 130 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: process and released. As the Washington Post summarized it, quote 131 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: aided by the military agents, added checkpoints on the highways, 132 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: and ramped up searches of trains and buses. In the 133 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: first half of twenty twenty four, Mexico log seven hundred 134 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: and twelve thousand apprehensions, nearly triple the number in the 135 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: same period last year. And what we're being told now 136 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: is this all came out of the deal with Biden 137 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: Harris when they had that meeting with the leadership in Mexico, Like, hey, 138 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: right before election day, we need the number of border 139 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: crossings to drop. Can you guys help us out? And 140 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: now we know the plan is actually working very well 141 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: in Mexico. 142 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 2: Well and listen. There is a reason that the left 143 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 2: is not upset with Kamala because they know this is 144 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 2: who she is. They know this is what she believes. 145 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 2: She's been the borders are for four years. If she's president, 146 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 2: the open borders get worse. The eleven and a half 147 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 2: million illegal aliens becomes twenty million, becomes thirty million. That 148 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 2: is their plan to fundamentally change the American electorate. They 149 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 2: view all of them as future Democrat voters, some voting 150 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 2: illegally immediately and some voting when Democrats seize control and 151 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 2: give them amnesty. That is their plan. And nobody, you know, 152 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 2: the radicals who were dancing in the street with Kamala 153 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 2: chanting down with deportation, they're not upset with Kamala's ads 154 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 2: with the border wall. Why is that because they know 155 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 2: she's lying. They're perfectly happy for her to lie to 156 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 2: the voters. And they think the voters are gullible enough 157 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 2: that they'll be like, oh, oh, she agrees with me 158 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 2: on border security. I gotta say, I don't think the 159 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,839 Speaker 2: American people are nearly as gullible as Democrats think they are. 160 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: You look at the headline and it says Mexico goes 161 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: into overdrive to help Biden Harris administration slow illegal immigration 162 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: before a day. So it's all a POI. This is 163 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 1: all being done clearly on purpose. They're saying today the 164 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: illegal border crossings are now over thirty five one hundred 165 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: for the day that's down, and then they're going to 166 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: campaign on this. Do you really believe that this is 167 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: going to work with the American people? 168 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 2: I don't, But I got to say, the President of 169 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 2: Mexico is not the only foreign leader who is trying 170 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 2: to influence this election and wants Kamala Harris elected president. 171 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:33,719 Speaker 2: President Zelenski is in the United States and he's effectively 172 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 2: campaigning for Kamala That this is a story, as I 173 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 2: said at the outset, that just shocks me. I've never 174 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 2: seen this happen where a foreign leader comes. He went 175 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 2: to Pennsylvania, the biggest swing state in the country, He 176 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 2: went to an ammunition factory. He arrived on an Air 177 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 2: Force jet, presumably paid for by the taxpayers. And he 178 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 2: does this whole interview in The New Yorker where he 179 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 2: slams Donald Trump, and he slams jd. Vance. Zelenski says 180 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,719 Speaker 2: in the interview that Trump quote doesn't really know how 181 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 2: to stop the war, even if he might think he 182 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 2: knows how. And then on Vance, he attacks Vance directly 183 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:24,559 Speaker 2: and says Vance's quote too radical. Now, I got to say, 184 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 2: who the hell is Zelensky to be trying to interfere 185 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 2: in our election? The arrogance of this guy, And you 186 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:36,719 Speaker 2: know what, in the Congress, this guy has gotten Republican 187 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 2: support for military aid. You want to find a way 188 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 2: for that to disappear, This is an awfully good way 189 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 2: to do it. And the guy, I've got to say, 190 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 2: is an absolute moron for coming to the US six 191 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 2: weeks before the election and attacking Trump and Vance. I 192 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 2: don't care if Selensky likes or dislikes what they have 193 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 2: to say. He is if he had the sense God 194 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 2: gave a cricket, he would have said on that question, 195 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 2: you know what, I'm not gonna comment about US elections. 196 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 2: That's for the people of America to decide. That would 197 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 2: have been smart. But you know what, Kamala Harris is 198 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 2: perfectly happy to use this guy as essentially a campaign prop. 199 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 2: And as I said, it is absolutely infuriating. 200 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, you look at what he was here for, and 201 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: it was to get a check and that's the part 202 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: I think people need to understand. And it wasn't just 203 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: to get a check. It was also to They described 204 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: it as a victory plan quote unquote that he was 205 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 1: going to lay out the President, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. 206 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: They also said he was going to show it to Trump, 207 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,959 Speaker 1: which made me laugh. This is a two and a 208 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 1: half years of war with Russia and now they've come 209 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 1: up with a victory plan. It look he knows if 210 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 1: he wants unlimited cash, then then Biden and Harris are 211 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: the team. And that means Harris now is a team 212 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: because they will write him a check whenever he needs it, 213 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,599 Speaker 1: and they will continue this for apparently another two and 214 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: a half years or another five years, whatever it is. 215 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 1: But when he comes here on our dollar, how is 216 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: this not an enkind donation? I mean it used to 217 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: be that when I was on campaigns, they would spend 218 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 1: hours with us senator going over campaign finance rules and 219 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: laws so that none of us ever made a mistake. 220 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: And it was not a joke, like they took real 221 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: time of like the dues and don'ts and and certain 222 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: things that you can and cannot do. This dude's flying 223 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: over here. Taxpayers are paying for it. He's on a 224 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: big I mean a big jet. He lands in a 225 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: swing state, he gets off the plane, he does the interview. 226 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: This is this is obviously a campaign contribution to the 227 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: Harris campaign, and no one bats and I that the 228 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: taxpayers are paying for this propaganda. 229 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 2: So Ben, you're saying they didn't pick Pennsylvania at random. 230 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 2: It wasn't just oh, let's throw a dart at the 231 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 2: map and see where it hits. That the fact that 232 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 2: it's the most critical swing state in the entire country 233 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 2: was was was a factor in why why Kamala Harris 234 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 2: wanted him in Pennsylvania. 235 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, I mean pretty obvious. 236 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 2: And listen to combine that ostensibly what he said he 237 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 2: was there as he was thanking the ammunition plant because 238 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 2: they were making the ammunition that's being sent to Ukraine. 239 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 2: Doing that I think is unacceptable, but combining it with 240 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 2: explicitly attacking both Donald Trump and JD. Vance is incredibly foolish. 241 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 2: And let's be clear. Look, look, if you look at 242 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 2: the polling, I don't know what the odds are that 243 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 2: that that that Trump wins. I certainly hope and pray 244 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 2: he wins, but the odds are significant, whatever they are, 245 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 2: not of us know what the odds are. Sitting here today, 246 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 2: Zelensky that this is just dumb on his part, because 247 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 2: if Trump wins, he's got a huge problem that just 248 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:18,319 Speaker 2: got bigger. And if Trump loses, you know, good luck 249 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 2: trying to get Republicans to listen to what he has 250 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 2: to say, if he just behaves like a Democrat campaign activist. 251 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: I want to tell you real quick about our friends 252 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: over at IFCJ, the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. 253 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: With the rise in anti Semitism and continue attacks on Israel, 254 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: it is more important than ever to stand with Israel 255 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: and the Jewish people. 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That's one word support if CJ 274 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: dot org or eight eight eight for eight IFCJ. One 275 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: other question I want to ask you is about Zelensky. 276 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: Real quick was going to this you know Ammo plant 277 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: that they went to. It made me laugh that he's 278 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: like acting like, you know, there's some do gooders that 279 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: are giving him this amo. To be clear, the American 280 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: tax dollars are paying for them. He would never need 281 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: to go there if this wasn't for a political stunt, 282 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: because they're going to cast a check and that's how 283 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: they've set this up where hey, they make them America 284 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: get pays for that AMO. The AMO then goes to Ukraine, 285 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: and it just was such a made for TV propaganda moment. 286 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: And I want people to understand that that's what this was, 287 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: to support and advocate for the campaign. 288 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's exactly right. And I'll tell you an 289 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 2: additional point that was made by Donald Trump Junior on 290 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 2: Twitter I think is really quite significant. So Trump Junior tweeted, So, 291 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 2: a foreign leader who has received billions of dollars in 292 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 2: fun from American taxpayers comes to our country and has 293 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 2: the nerve to attack the GOP ticket for president. And 294 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 2: he does this right after a pro Ukraine Zelot tried 295 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 2: to assassinate my father. Disgraceful and and and and that's 296 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 2: a point. Look, this this this lunatic who camped out 297 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 2: on the golf course and was there to assassinate President Trump. 298 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 2: The facts that have come out on him as he 299 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 2: was truly a pro Ukraine Zelot, so much so that 300 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 2: he flew over there and was trying to enlist to 301 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 2: fight with the Ukrainians. And he was such a kook. 302 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 2: The Ukrainians said, we don't want you. But but that 303 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 2: that really does add insult to injury. 304 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: It does, and also, I think tells you just how 305 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: tone death they are, or maybe they just don't care 306 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 1: at all. I'm not sure that they care at all. 307 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 2: Look, I think I don't know, but I think it 308 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 2: was remarkably foolish. And and and you know, look, I 309 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 2: normally try to give some grace and leniency to a 310 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 2: leader in wartime. I mean, he's fighting for his country. 311 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 2: I understand what he's doing. This was foolish. I still 312 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 2: want Russia to lose, but I think what Zelensky did 313 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 2: today was one of the greatest unforced errors I've seen 314 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 2: a foreign leader do. I've never seen this happen in 315 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 2: my entire life, and I think it really was a bad, 316 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 2: bad mistake by Zelensky. 317 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, and it could. And again, if you're 318 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: going all in, because you know, you get unlimited funds, 319 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: and you came over here for a check, and every 320 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: time you show up, America writes you that check. He's 321 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: probably just looking at the politics, going, hey, this is 322 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 1: my meal ticket, Harris is the meal ticket. Let's go 323 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 1: help her win reelection or get elected, I should say. 324 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 1: And then I get the funds flowing for another four years. 325 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 1: And they obviously made that calculated decision. I agree with you. 326 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 1: I think it was really really foolish. I want to 327 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: move on. Also something else that you mentioned earlier, and 328 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 1: it's happened today. UH set the stage for everybody in Congress, UH, 329 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: and and explain exactly what was going on, and it 330 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: dealt with presidential immunity. 331 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 2: Well, Senate Democrats for two years have been engaged in 332 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 2: a relentless assault on the Supreme Court and trying to 333 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 2: undermine the Supreme Court. And so today the Senate Judiciary 334 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 2: Committee held a hearing on the Supreme Court's decision on 335 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 2: presidential immunity, and the whole purpose of the hearing was 336 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 2: to say that the Supreme Court decision is ridiculous, that 337 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 2: it's out of bounds, that it basically said Trump is 338 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 2: a king, that he's unaccountable, that it that it's some 339 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 2: you know, bizarre decision, and they're trying both to attack 340 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 2: Trump UH and to delegitimize the Supreme Court. 341 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 3: And and and so. 342 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 2: Among the witnesses testifying was was Michael Mukasey, who was 343 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 2: the former Attorney General of the United States under George W. Bush, 344 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 2: and he was a federal judge for nearly twenty years 345 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 2: before that. And he was one of the witnesses, and 346 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 2: so I took the opportunity to actually question the former 347 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 2: Attorney general and to lay out the utterly false narrative 348 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 2: the Democrats were putting forward. Give a listen to my 349 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 2: questioning of Attorney General mucasey. Thank you, mister chairman. The 350 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 2: nub of the Democrats argument today is that the concept 351 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 2: of presidential immunity is somehow unprecedented, is somehow remarkable. That 352 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 2: claim is utterly a historical and disconnected from the entire 353 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 2: constitutional history of the Republic. General MW. Casey before twenty 354 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 2: twenty three, how many times has the President of the 355 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:48,479 Speaker 2: United States been indicted? John before twenty twenty three? How 356 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 2: many times has the former president of the United States 357 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:50,959 Speaker 2: been indicted? 358 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 3: Done? 359 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 2: In the last two years? How many times has President 360 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 2: Donald J. Trump been indicted? 361 00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 3: Four times? I believe. 362 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 2: Many presidents of both parties have engaged in controversial actions, 363 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 2: and yet none of them have been indicted. Let me 364 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 2: ask you, General mc caasey, if a private citizen were 365 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 2: to erect an internment camp and to forcibly kidnap American citizens, 366 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 2: to single them out because of race, and to imprison 367 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 2: them based on their race. Would that private citizen be 368 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 2: subject to criminal prosecution? Would When President Franklin delan Or 369 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 2: Roosevelt did the exact same thing and erected Japanese internment camps, 370 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 2: was FDR prosecuted? 371 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 3: He was not? 372 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: Let me ask you. 373 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 2: Similarly, if a private citizen were, say to detonate a 374 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 2: nuclear weapon over a city and kill over one hundred 375 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 2: and forty thousand people, and then if that private citizen 376 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 2: a few days later detonated another nuclear bomb over another 377 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 2: city and killed seventy five thousand people, could that private 378 00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:59,639 Speaker 2: citizen be criminally prosecuted? 379 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 3: Would? 380 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 2: Was President Harry Truman prosecuted for detonating nuclear weapons over 381 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 2: Hiroshima and Nagasaki? 382 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 3: He was not? 383 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: All right? 384 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 2: How about this, If a private citizen launched a weaponized 385 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 2: drove and killed a United States citizen, could that private 386 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 2: citizen be criminally prosecuted? 387 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 3: He would? 388 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 2: Was President Barack Obama criminally prosecuted when he killed United 389 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 2: States citizens using drones without notice and without due process? 390 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 3: He was not? Although as far as due process is concerned, 391 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 3: I believe the comment of my successor to that question 392 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 3: was that anmaala'laki got quote all the process that was necessary. 393 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 2: Well, although I suspect he might disagree with that assessment 394 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 2: were he able to present his case. Right, all right, 395 00:22:54,720 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 2: let's contrast that with the rules that govern other federal officials. 396 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 2: You were a judge for nineteen years as a federal judge. 397 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 2: Did you have immunity from your. 398 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 3: Official acts from my official act? Yes? 399 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 2: Do federal prosecutors have an immunity from their official acts? 400 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 2: They do? Now, the distinction between official acts and personal 401 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 2: acts is not a terribly shocking distinction. Under the decision 402 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 2: of Trump versus United States, if any president walks the 403 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 2: walks onto the sidewalk and just shoots a citizen, is 404 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 2: that president libel to be prosecuted? 405 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 3: He is? 406 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 2: How about this? If a president steals funds from his campaign, 407 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 2: does that president face criminal liability? 408 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 3: He does? 409 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 1: How about this? 410 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 2: If a president sexually assaults let's say, an intern in 411 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 2: the oval office, is the president subject criminal prosecution for that? 412 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 3: He could be? 413 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 2: So that distinction, again, is not a shocking distinction. The 414 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 2: founding fathers vested the executive power in a single president 415 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 2: of the United States. What we have seen in the 416 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 2: last two years is we have seen Democrats deliberately weaponizing 417 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 2: the Department of Justice and our legal system to target 418 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 2: their political opposition. It is not an accident that every 419 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 2: indictment against President Trump was brought by a Democrat and 420 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 2: was brought after he announced his campaign for president of 421 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 2: the United States. Understand, the target of those indictments was 422 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 2: not ultimately President Trump. It was the voters. It was 423 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 2: prosecutors who were terrified that the voters would choose to 424 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 2: re elect President Trump. One of the great things about 425 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 2: the United States is we're not a bin out of republic. 426 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 2: Since two thousand, the nation of Pakistan has had six 427 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 2: former prime ministters prosecuted and convicted. Brazil has had three 428 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,919 Speaker 2: former presidents arrested and imprisoned. Last year, Nicaragua and President 429 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 2: Daniel or Tega arrested, charged, and imprisoned forty political opponents. 430 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 2: General Man Casey, you are Attorney General of the United States, 431 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 2: it is Is it the proper role of the Department 432 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 2: of Justice to prosecute and target the political opponents of 433 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 2: whoever happens to be President of the United States. 434 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 3: It is, most assuredly not, thank you. 435 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: He says. It most certainly is not. But the reality 436 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 1: is Donald Trump keeps getting attacked by the left and 437 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: they keep trying to lock up their political opponent. 438 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's exactly what they're doing. And their claim 439 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 2: that the ruling that a president can't be criminally prosecuted 440 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 2: for his official acts is contrary to the law. It's 441 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 2: what's why I use the examples I used. It's why 442 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,239 Speaker 2: I use Look, the Japanese and Tournament camp. Presidents can 443 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 2: do a lot of things in exercising their official power 444 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 2: that ordinary citizens cannot, and we would want our commander 445 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 2: in chief. Our commander in chief can send our troops 446 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 2: into combat, can use lethal force, and they do regularly. 447 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 2: And so the Supreme Court naturally said, well, we don't 448 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 2: want a situation where each new president who comes in 449 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 2: the first order of business is let's criminally prosecute the 450 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 2: last guy for the things he did as president that 451 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 2: I disagreed with. 452 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 3: And so. 453 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 2: You know, the hearing was really a dog and pony 454 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 2: show by the Democrats to mischaracterize the Supreme Court decision. 455 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 2: So I thought it was important to explain the actual 456 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 2: law in the real context. 457 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 1: Let me ask you another question about this. Will there 458 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: be a correction? I mean, if Donald Trump is the 459 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: president next time, will there be a correction? Or once 460 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 1: the cats out of the bag, is there any way 461 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: of getting it back to where we were before as 462 00:26:58,359 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: you described it twenty twenty three. 463 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 2: I don't know. I certainly hope we are not in 464 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 2: a world where we are a banana republic where it 465 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 2: is routine to prosecute your predecessors. I don't know, but 466 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 2: I do think the Democrats have gone down a road 467 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 2: that it's very hard to turn around and. 468 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: Come back from. Yeah, it is going to be very 469 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 1: very tough, to put it mildly, to turn this thing around. 470 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 1: And I think once they realize they can do this, 471 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 1: I don't see Democrats being responsible moving forward with it. 472 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: That's my biggest concern. So is there anything we can 473 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 1: do to protect former presidents? Or it is something need 474 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 1: to change with the law. 475 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 2: And Look, the biggest thing we can and should do 476 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 2: is reelect Donald Trump as president. Elections have consequences. We're 477 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 2: six weeks away from election day. 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