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Speaker 1: Scannable advice. Sugar spice. It's time.

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Speaker 2: Hello, welcome to the Not even Nice Show. I'm your

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Speaker 2: hose Rob Shooter and it is Wednesday, which means I

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Speaker 2: dear friend Donny Meecham. Donnie with the good hair joins us. Hey, Donnie,

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Speaker 2: are you there? Hell? Lower lower low.

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Speaker 1: Oh, Beyonce is coming from my look. She started that

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Speaker 1: new hair lot and I'm like, no, sweetie, I supposed

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Speaker 1: to have the best hair in the business. You have,

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Speaker 1: sweet people don't know this right. You have fabulous hair,

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much? I do have fabulous hair. We

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Speaker 2: both have fabulous hair. Look at us. Everyone's going to

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Speaker 2: be so annoyed with us. And we haven't even started

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Speaker 2: the show yet. We're bragging, bragging, braggingly. It's about me,

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Speaker 2: me me you you you me me me. Okay, it's

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Speaker 2: actually a laud All the naughty selects jump in. What

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Speaker 2: time is it? My friends? It is Tita big story.

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Speaker 2: At the top of the show, Kim Kardashian is talking

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Speaker 2: about her marriage to Kanye West. Kim has tried to

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Speaker 2: she's doing a massive interview with Jay Shetty on his podcast,

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Speaker 2: and she said the marriage was beautiful, but I can't

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Speaker 2: help him. So Kim said she does not consider her

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Speaker 2: marriage to be a failure, but she reflected on their

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Speaker 2: beautiful but broken union, saying that you can't help people

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Speaker 2: who don't want to be helped. Now, let's be clear here,

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Speaker 2: Kim did not actually name her ex husband. She didn't

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Speaker 2: say Kanye West, but she spoke at length about previously

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Speaker 2: having different views with somebody in her life whom she

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Speaker 2: didn't have the power to change. She said the following quote,

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Speaker 2: you can't force your beliefs and projects and someone that

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Speaker 2: thinks something totally different. She went on to say that

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Speaker 2: they actually strung to co exist very very well, and

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Speaker 2: although she does believe having different opinions can be good,

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Speaker 2: it can be an okay thing. At the end of

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Speaker 2: the day, she said, you've got to agree about your

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Speaker 2: call value, your call morals, and all that really important stuff.

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Speaker 2: I think she's making a lot of sense here. What

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Speaker 2: do you think?

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Speaker 1: Yes, And you know what, there's a lot of I

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Speaker 1: don't always agree with Kim Kardashian. You know, the whole

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Speaker 1: family I feel are a little too me me, me,

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Speaker 1: me me, As we brag about ourselves at the beginning

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Speaker 1: of the show. But the thing is is I will

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Speaker 1: respect her and the fact that she could say a

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Speaker 1: lot of things about Kanye West, because I'm sure all

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Speaker 1: the things he has said publicly, I would imagine he

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Speaker 1: has said worse behind closed doors, via text message, via

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Speaker 1: I think that that is respectful, especially for someone who

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Speaker 1: has made their billions off of airing their dirty line.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, there such restraint, doesn't it, Because You're right,

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Speaker 2: she's made billions from telling everything. We've seen everything too,

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Speaker 2: and so for her to show restraint, I think it's

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Speaker 2: a really powerful thing. But I do agree. She went

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Speaker 2: on to say it's okay to realize that life is

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Speaker 2: short and you should go and find the people that

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Speaker 2: align with what you really believe in. I've done that

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Speaker 2: in my life. I know a lot of people, but

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Speaker 2: my friends, my closest friends, we have the same values.

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Speaker 2: We have the same core values. I don't think you

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Speaker 2: should close yourself off to the world. I think it's

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Speaker 2: very healthy to meet people, to enjoy people, to have

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Speaker 2: friends with different opinions. But when it comes to a partner,

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Speaker 2: I think you've got to share some basic fundamental values.

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Speaker 2: Bruce and I my husband, We disagree on a lot

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Speaker 2: of stuff, but the fundamentals about life, fairness, what we

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Speaker 2: think is very very similar. Donnie, we have very similar values.

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Speaker 2: One of the reasons we became friends is not only

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Speaker 2: do we love to laugh and we both have, as

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Speaker 2: common view of the world. We agree on our politics,

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Speaker 2: on our core values. I think that is the key

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Speaker 2: to this, particularly with a romantic partner. Donnie, could you

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Speaker 2: see yourself with somebody who had very different values to you?

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Speaker 1: No, Like I wouldn't be able to marry Donald Trump. Like,

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Speaker 1: let's put that out there. Like, you know what I'm saying, Like,

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Speaker 1: I am open to the idea. My family is from

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Speaker 1: But if somebody was so drastically different and just not

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, absolutely, that's how we're friends. I see the

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Speaker 2: world really optimistically. I think people are really good when

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Speaker 2: She said it was beautiful, but she can't help him.

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Speaker 2: That's the statement that I thought was so interesting. You

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Speaker 2: can't help somebody who doesn't want to be helped. What

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Speaker 2: do you think about that? Is she right? Can you

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Speaker 2: help people who don't want to be helped? Go vote

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Speaker 2: on our Twitter page at Naughty Nice rob a Facebook

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Speaker 2: page which is Naughty Gossip and be sure to check

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Speaker 2: back some mo rudey. Here your results. Hey Donnie, what

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Speaker 1: This o zempic? It really is the new trimp spar

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Speaker 1: Remember Trimp's bar. It was like the miracle like weight.

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Speaker 1: Last drug actually works everybody on Harley. We know a

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Speaker 1: few people on them, everybody in Hollywood. It's on ozempic.

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Speaker 1: But Kyle is coming out setting the record straight on

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Speaker 1: whether or not she has used ozimpic, and she says,

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Speaker 1: rely on a drug. And that's not true in everybody's case.

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Speaker 2: think we've got to get rid of that mentality. Do

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Speaker 2: what's right for you, and it's nobody else's business, but

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Speaker 2: Her statement is so much bigger than anybody really asking

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Speaker 2: any questions. She's not Angelina Jolie or so these reality starts,

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Speaker 1: She called the Page six and she was like, I

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Speaker 2: Post's paytick'slight. We didn't ask, like, stop calling us. They

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Speaker 2: do know how to make news, they really really do.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's why the housewives. It's a skill you have

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Speaker 2: We've met lots and lots of them. The ones that

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Speaker 2: about themselves. Remember my friend the producer I introduced you to,

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Speaker 2: who was a reality show producer, Donnie, and you asked her,

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Speaker 2: You said, will Ram ever be a reality star? And

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Speaker 2: No more needs to be said, Okay, Moving along. Nick

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Speaker 2: at the Academy Awards and stuff, Donnie, But in our

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of times with us, like we

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Speaker 2: this story that I'm telling. And I just cut to

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Speaker 2: It's amazing, isn't it. I love that Nick is telling

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Speaker 2: the story google the perform that it was rough. It

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Speaker 2: least poke a little bit of fun at himself. Okay,

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Speaker 2: what is going on with Amona Singer and her ongoing

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Speaker 1: Judici Hermona singer. She is a back in Caroline Manzo's

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Speaker 1: The nicest of the day is somebody that Robb used

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