Speaker 1: I rewatched that genuine entrance the other day of him
Speaker 1: when he went on one O six and he came
Speaker 1: out in a stretcher.
Speaker 2: This is for one of the performances.
Speaker 1: Yes, I remember he came out in the stretcher and
Speaker 1: then his boy goes, oh no, he's flat line of y'all.
Speaker 1: The only way we can bring him back is with
Speaker 1: chess compressions. And then they do the chess compressions and
Speaker 1: Genuine does this ship on the fucking and then he
Speaker 1: comes back to life and sings, Pony, it's the what he's.
Speaker 2: Talking about, king shit, king shit, And we were just.
Speaker 1: Like, I guess this Thursday because Genuine, fuck you.
Speaker 2: You had it all, baby, and you let it you
Speaker 2: let it go.
Speaker 3: Damn Kala bears racists. The money stuff I can't tell me.
Speaker 1: Chili's Chili's baby back ribs. There it is, there, it is.
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another phenomenal episode of My
Speaker 1: Mama Told.
Speaker 4: Me, the podcast where we dive deep into the pockets
Speaker 4: of black conspiracy theories.
Speaker 1: And we finally work to prove that she would tell
Speaker 1: edge of for is the most famous man on the
Speaker 1: planet whose name no one knows. How to pronounce that
Speaker 1: motherfucker is unbelievably famous for everybody to be like, what
Speaker 1: is his name? I do not know it. I've never
Speaker 1: known it, and I never will know it because of
Speaker 1: how hard that motherfucker is.
Speaker 4: You're right, You're right, Yeah is great name.
Speaker 1: Another because even even Jiaman, we figured out Gimon, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like we we all figured out
Speaker 1: like okay, Jamon Hnson's let yeah, that's a.
Speaker 4: Mistas exactly night in Constantine, a lot of a lot
Speaker 4: of big rules.
Speaker 1: They put blue contacts on him, and nobody said nothing
Speaker 1: that was beautiful.
Speaker 4: She would tell got a Marvel movie and a Slave movie,
Speaker 4: and it's like the two biggest black man movies. And
Speaker 4: I don't I don't know how to say the last name.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think that.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I mean, I think you have to like commit to
Speaker 5: demanding people nowhere.
Speaker 4: Yeah right.
Speaker 5: I think he's a little too like, you know, chill
Speaker 5: about however, like Raven coming out at like thirty five
Speaker 5: and saying, my last name is Simonier.
Speaker 4: We don't care, we our whole life. No I do
Speaker 4: that now you had your chance. You get the feeling
Speaker 4: he was on set like you just called me che
Speaker 4: way it's good and yeah, exactly, and then it's like no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: you got to stand on that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, was like, listen, I don't give a fuck. You
Speaker 5: canna say Charlie Starn.
Speaker 4: Yeah out yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: She came out.
Speaker 1: She came out and did that from the start to
Speaker 1: the bigger point. She said, this is who the fuck
Speaker 1: I am. And I may not even be here that long,
Speaker 1: but you're gonna learn to pronounce this motherfucker. And instead
Speaker 1: she would say it was like, hey, Edgy's fine, go
Speaker 1: me Edgy.
Speaker 2: I don't know, it don't matter.
Speaker 4: And the hard thing about the Raymond thing is it's
Speaker 4: gone so far that like we don't believe it, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. I was like, I believe it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, it's a little too bougie.
Speaker 4: Yeah, too little.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: And she's done too many weirdo things before this, where like,
Speaker 1: I don't trust your opinion on nothing, lady. There's no
Speaker 1: like thing you could tell me where I'd take it
Speaker 1: as one hundred percent true.
Speaker 5: Said she was from every country in Africa except too,
Speaker 5: and every country in Europe except or something. She was
Speaker 5: literally from half the planet.
Speaker 4: Here's my question is what were the two? It was
Speaker 4: like sorry d r C.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, I'm not listen one thing, I'm not
Speaker 1: a Kenyan. Everything else I'm fucking I bet she would
Speaker 1: claim Kenya just because Kenya gets a lot of press
Speaker 1: for they're cool. Yeah, they're shut up.
Speaker 4: No, I don't mean that. I'm sorry from again.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean like, where's the black party?
Speaker 4: Says she claimed? Oh I don't even know did she
Speaker 4: claim Africa?
Speaker 1: I didn't know she did that. She because she went
Speaker 1: on a little run where she was saying she wasn't
Speaker 1: black no more. She had a little recent run where
Speaker 1: she there. You go, Okay, that's a good one.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of countries in Africa that nobody's gonna
Speaker 4: follow up on. Mm hmm. There's just like, yeah, say
Speaker 4: you're to Median, who's gonna who's gonna say anything gonna stop.
Speaker 1: You our guest today, you've already heard their voice. It's
Speaker 1: a phenomenal time. We're excited he's here. Uh you know
Speaker 1: him from a lot of cool shit, you know, rap
Speaker 1: shit on Hbox. Max, I ain't know HBO.
Speaker 5: The fuck up HBO?
Speaker 1: Yeah it's Max, but but it's a it's a show,
Speaker 1: a great show that he's a part of. He also
Speaker 1: hosts a podcast called The read Uh that you can
Speaker 1: listen to anywhere and everywhere, and and that's the whole shebang.
Speaker 1: And we're so excited he's here. And give it up
Speaker 1: for kid Fury. Everybody.
Speaker 5: Sunny La, Sunny La.
Speaker 1: We're glad you're here. You came to us. I should say,
Speaker 1: with a conspiracy theory that we softened up a little bit,
Speaker 1: and that's not because we're afraid of the conversation. Let
Speaker 1: me be very clear about that. We are not afraid
Speaker 1: of the conversation, and in fact, I encourage you right
Speaker 1: away to get into what inspired this conversation. But we
Speaker 1: have covered a fair amount of this individual on the podcast,
Speaker 1: and so we wanted to make sure that we broaden
Speaker 1: it a little bit to make sure that we're not
Speaker 1: exclusively a bow Wow podcast from this point forward.
Speaker 5: But you are such a liar, let's go.
Speaker 2: I'm exactly.
Speaker 5: He's like a centerpiece of the conspiracy podcast. That's insane.
Speaker 1: He's a he is a vital source for this podcast.
Speaker 5: I would say it comes out six and park he's
Speaker 5: my mama tone.
Speaker 4: Can I also say he's my least favorite male host
Speaker 4: of one on sixth.
Speaker 5: In part was he ever actually a host? I know?
Speaker 5: They ran out of options and then they were like, hey, brother,
Speaker 5: you want to check.
Speaker 1: Hey you want to keep coming back because you seem
Speaker 1: you seem to be hanging out anyway. You just want to.
Speaker 4: I'm a I'm an AJ guy from where I stopped
Speaker 4: paying attention.
Speaker 1: Tia Tiger was it?
Speaker 2: I did fuck with?
Speaker 4: AJ?
Speaker 1: Was devastated to find out that the dreads were not real.
Speaker 4: That that hurt you had you.
Speaker 2: You knew the whole time. You knew the whole time.
Speaker 5: It did not You're lying.
Speaker 1: If you tell me you knew the whole time.
Speaker 5: Bro.
Speaker 4: They were too There was a lot of dread.
Speaker 1: That was a lot of dread, which makes it even
Speaker 1: crazier because he was sitting down every day to get thirty.
Speaker 2: Pounds of dreads sown in.
Speaker 5: Why that's crazy.
Speaker 4: I want to suffer for your art.
Speaker 5: For a rabbit pack of thirteen year olds from the
Speaker 5: Bronx whatever to.
Speaker 1: See for a fucking free style Friday, you had to
Speaker 1: put new dreads in.
Speaker 4: That was a big day. Don't be a shout out
Speaker 4: to my man Blind Fury.
Speaker 2: Have you ever rewatched any blind fury.
Speaker 4: Of course, I've rewatched YouTube super cuts.
Speaker 1: It's it's I'll be honest, he's one of the worst
Speaker 1: rappers that have ever reached that level of success.
Speaker 4: Hey, you know what, though he was blind as hell,
Speaker 4: he was blind. He was blinded. You see those.
Speaker 5: Blindness Well it.
Speaker 1: Was so it was such a beautiful time and we
Speaker 1: didn't know what we had. Kid, you came to us
Speaker 1: with a conspiracy theory that somehow sparked whatever that conversation was.
Speaker 1: But you said, my mama told me child stars are
Speaker 1: all victims. And I should say specifically, you guided this
Speaker 1: conversation through your you're a conspiracy theory about Lil Bow. Wow,
Speaker 1: tell us everything, you know.
Speaker 5: The year was probably Herale thousand. God had to be
Speaker 5: somewhere between one and four.
Speaker 4: It's early. It's early early. I think this was before
Speaker 4: the Towers film.
Speaker 5: You know what this is like a while ago. I
Speaker 5: was still low.
Speaker 1: I don't even know if he was like mike Ya No,
Speaker 1: I don't know. That was a few years into the journey.
Speaker 5: I think, yeah, I mean he was doing great. He
Speaker 5: was just kind of like at the peak of his
Speaker 5: like heart throb pop stardom and I go to school
Speaker 5: one day, minded my goddamn business, not really expecting my
Speaker 5: shot anything besides you know, like bullying and humidity. It's
Speaker 5: my And for whatever reason, the talk on the on
Speaker 5: the town or in the high school halls was did
Speaker 5: you hear what happened about m And the story went
Speaker 5: that he was unfortunately assaulted sexually in a limousine by
Speaker 5: his own security guard. Yes. And there were graphic additions
Speaker 5: to the story, some involving like stitches. That's what I heard,
Speaker 5: that's what you know. I was sewing things back together
Speaker 5: a blowout if you will. Yeah, as a gay man,
Speaker 5: I really relate. I have no common empathize. Yeah, So
Speaker 5: I remember just going to school and hearing that, and
Speaker 5: and there was a lot of celebrity guys that don't
Speaker 5: hunt around as you know, you're a kid, you know.
Speaker 5: A big one for us was also Trina and Missy
Speaker 5: Elliott being a couple of that one might not have
Speaker 5: been untrue, but either way I think they for sure.
Speaker 1: That would be cool and it would explain why there
Speaker 1: are so few collaborations.
Speaker 5: But I remember hearing this one and going, huh, like,
Speaker 5: why isn't this on the news. Why haven't we heard
Speaker 5: from an official source about something so tragic, violent, heinous, unspeakable,
Speaker 5: and I never really got an answer for that.
Speaker 1: So you you are told this in the in the hallways,
Speaker 1: in between being bullied by by assuming Haitian men a
Speaker 1: couple of Bayans okay uh and and then and you
Speaker 1: hear this, and your immediate instinct is, nah, this feels silly,
Speaker 1: this is absurd.
Speaker 5: It just it felt way too wild and random to me.
Speaker 5: But I remember thinking, also, like, where do we come
Speaker 5: up with these Who's the person who's like, I'm gonna
Speaker 5: get this ship?
Speaker 4: Kids?
Speaker 5: That's how does it make the waves? Because the powerful
Speaker 5: thing about this story for me was that I think
Speaker 5: the following summer, I went down to visit my family
Speaker 5: in Jamaica, as I did quite often in the summertime
Speaker 5: as a kid, and my two of my uncles, who
Speaker 5: are around the same age as me, and my granddaddy
Speaker 5: was fast. So Louke, you know, I'm not mad aving recipes.
Speaker 5: We go around there and we're you know, kicking the shit,
Speaker 5: climbing trees, eating the mangoes in they asked me if
Speaker 5: bow Wow was okay because they.
Speaker 6: Heard of and I'm like, I said, nigga running water
Speaker 6: is like, the fuck do you know about this bonball rumor?
Speaker 1: Buddy, you can't be focusing on bow wow right now,
Speaker 1: you got other problems.
Speaker 2: This isn't it.
Speaker 4: I like that they knew that you would have a
Speaker 4: direct line, like you would be like, actually, he's doing
Speaker 4: well as the American.
Speaker 2: I was actually with him in the hospital last week.
Speaker 5: He's healing up. Fine. You don't have texting yet.
Speaker 1: And the new the new record, it's a banger. You're
Speaker 1: gonna lie.
Speaker 5: You just don't know the way.
Speaker 1: So you're not buying it. Bory, you were all of
Speaker 1: a similar age. What you heard this around the same time.
Speaker 1: Didn't you believe it?
Speaker 4: No? I believe it. I remember it was in junior
Speaker 4: high school and this kid on my wrestling team who
Speaker 4: smelled very bad, very bad. His name was Wilt. He
Speaker 4: told me, he said, he said, he's not gonna He's
Speaker 4: just means.
Speaker 2: It's sad that a man was named Wilt smell.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean he was a boy at the time.
Speaker 4: But that's how I know. That's how I can put
Speaker 4: the date on it because I remember the junior high
Speaker 4: school I was that because I went to a lot
Speaker 4: of schools and he told me that it was in
Speaker 4: the limo by his limo driver and that there was
Speaker 4: like I think he said I if my memory serves
Speaker 4: I think he said thirty two stitches, which even as
Speaker 4: a little boy, I was like, this is. I was
Speaker 4: just like, this is how did this get to? Will
Speaker 4: you know? Like how did this trickle down all the
Speaker 4: way that sticky ass Wilt knows?
Speaker 2: But also how is.
Speaker 1: It that Wilt is the number one source of bow
Speaker 1: wow information coming out of this specific area, Like that
Speaker 1: doesn't fucking make sense?
Speaker 4: You know. The craziest part about it, will shocker white guy?
Speaker 2: Hmm it was the white guy.
Speaker 5: Okay, I explained a couple of things I was.
Speaker 1: About to say that starts to make this feel like
Speaker 1: an intentional sort of like Reagan moving through the community
Speaker 1: kind of vibes.
Speaker 4: That's how that is. It felt like a plant because
Speaker 4: it was also like nobody else was talking about He
Speaker 4: was the only one who said it to me. Yeah,
Speaker 4: because I remember being like, ah, what the fuck is
Speaker 4: he talking about? And then going about Mike because he
Speaker 4: told me in the morning, and then going about my day.
Speaker 4: No black people said anything about it to me all day.
Speaker 4: But I still remember Will telling me that.
Speaker 1: Well, here's what I'll say if I am a president
Speaker 1: of a United States and I'm watching this young, upstart,
Speaker 1: little bow Wow start to make waves with young men
Speaker 1: and young women in a way that we haven't seen
Speaker 1: in a millennia. This motherfucker was was Michael Jackson again
Speaker 1: level famous, and he wasn't Will talking. He was bro.
Speaker 2: We I think we kid.
Speaker 1: How fucking big bow Wow was. He was unbelievably large,
Speaker 1: and he's not talking about drugs. He ain't talking about alcohol.
Speaker 4: He's having a cool.
Speaker 1: The fun that niggas can relate to.
Speaker 5: But he had like gangster connects because he was by
Speaker 5: way of Snoop, so he still had like street cred
Speaker 5: even though he was four.
Speaker 1: Bro, you could still have him in the back of
Speaker 1: the video. And it wasn't like corny, It wasn't crazy.
Speaker 1: He's a powerful figure in society. If I want to
Speaker 1: take that figure down, I gotta start telling people he
Speaker 1: got butt sexed.
Speaker 5: I think that there's something here along with the you know,
Speaker 5: putting them in dresses, putting us dresses to take our
Speaker 5: power and strength, come on the way to attack the
Speaker 5: black community and their fervor. Yeah, this is here.
Speaker 4: Is my question though, And I do wonder this because
Speaker 4: this is truly a cross country phenomenon right now. We
Speaker 4: have Miami to Chicago to Washington State. The fact that
Speaker 4: we all heard Limo, the specificity of it, does make
Speaker 4: you wonder, how did how did this happen such a
Speaker 4: specific so specifically, Like doesn't that feel crazy to you?
Speaker 1: Yeah? That it that The rumor itself is so like
Speaker 1: you would think it would telephone a little bit to
Speaker 1: where you heard in Miami.
Speaker 4: Maybe you heard Limo. By the time it got to me,
Speaker 4: it was like Snoop Dogg's hot tub or some like
Speaker 4: like like you.
Speaker 1: Know what, there was a hummer too, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Like the idea that it was a limo and I
Speaker 1: heard driver.
Speaker 4: You both heard security, so a little bit different. But
Speaker 4: the specificity of it is interesting to me.
Speaker 5: It is very interesting to me as well. But I'm
Speaker 5: also starting to think, because it seemed to take so
Speaker 5: much life in the school system, I'm wondering if there
Speaker 5: was just like a rival child star parent, Oh oh
Speaker 5: that lost the job to this kid, and those like
Speaker 5: every opportunity.
Speaker 4: Because listen, I'm a whistleblower, I'll say it. Do you
Speaker 4: think this was a masterpiece situation.
Speaker 1: I was about to say, there's a man named Percy
Speaker 1: Miller who had a lot to gain during this era.
Speaker 1: Come on and could not afford to lose.
Speaker 4: Come on, and Romeo did not have what it took.
Speaker 4: I'll say it stacked up. There was no competition.
Speaker 1: He didn't have it.
Speaker 5: They were still fake beefal on that damn reality show
Speaker 5: there the kids and sisterhood of.
Speaker 4: Him hip hop.
Speaker 5: I'm ashamed to know that, but it's true.
Speaker 4: No, I know what you're talking about. Can we can
Speaker 4: we can? We we could all agree. Little Romeo did
Speaker 4: not have it like Little had it have what exactly exactly.
Speaker 5: A Nickelodeon show. I believe.
Speaker 1: His dad gave him that. That wasn't that wasn't a
Speaker 1: well earned, you know position.
Speaker 4: He had J. C. Penny's shoes. Little Romeo was tried. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: they were very bad. He did have Yeah, very bad,
Speaker 4: very very bad.
Speaker 5: Ain't have no damn shoes.
Speaker 4: Listen, was a king.
Speaker 1: Do you want to do rag? I bet bow Wow
Speaker 1: sees a cut of it. I bet I bet you.
Speaker 2: I bet you paying bow Wow.
Speaker 1: Right now, you be careful with the way you speak
Speaker 1: about bow Wow on this podcast, let us be let
Speaker 1: us be frank and upfront about this.
Speaker 2: He is a historical figure that we value very much.
Speaker 1: We don't respect him, but we value him very much,
Speaker 1: and we don't want to be smirt. We need him
Speaker 1: to make it on this podcast so that we can
Speaker 1: finally make this whole thing hole.
Speaker 4: That would be crazy.
Speaker 5: I won't come on here and tell y'all twenty more lies, big.
Speaker 4: Lies right now.
Speaker 5: So I really don't know what happened with Bowow, if
Speaker 5: anything traumatic or just while they were happening in a
Speaker 5: limo and it just took on a life of his own.
Speaker 5: I never really believed this particular rumor. Clearly some things
Speaker 5: have taken place and that young man's life to lead
Speaker 5: him to where he is today.
Speaker 1: Though well, I'm really I'm glad you said that. I
Speaker 1: actually think this is the perfect transition. We're going to
Speaker 1: take a break because when we come back, I actually
Speaker 1: did a bunch of research on that that very subject
Speaker 1: and might have some answers as to what happened to
Speaker 1: bow Wow and others. I did some research on a
Speaker 1: few others as well. So we'll we'll take a break,
Speaker 1: we'll be back with more kid theory and more. My
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Speaker 4: We are back and we are talking all things little
Speaker 4: bow Wow limousine. No, we're back.
Speaker 6: We are.
Speaker 4: It's going where it's going. Yeah, it's going where it's going.
Speaker 4: We're talking. Yeah, legs did get it back on the rails.
Speaker 4: That is why you do what you do when I
Speaker 4: do what I do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, hey, we all played it from positions
Speaker 1: out here as far as bow Wow being sexually exulted
Speaker 1: by his security guard and or his limo driver, which
Speaker 1: we all agree was very a variant of the rumor.
Speaker 1: But he did a recent interview, somewhat recent interview on
Speaker 1: Vlad TV, where Vlad, the hero in this story, outright
Speaker 1: asked him if he was ever raped.
Speaker 4: Jesus Christ would be the one to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's sort of what the fuck? Man like, you
Speaker 1: don't got no morals inside of this where you don't
Speaker 1: you don't even like see him as a human being
Speaker 1: at all enough to be like, well, I'm not just
Speaker 1: gonna ask him on camera if he was raped as
Speaker 1: a child, but Vlad did.
Speaker 5: That's known for his tact and respect.
Speaker 1: Yes, he really loves the black community and he shows
Speaker 1: it every day. But he asked him, and bow Wow
Speaker 1: tells him that it's fucking ridiculous. He says he has
Speaker 1: no clue where that even started, and he goes on
Speaker 1: to say that he first heard the rumors while walking
Speaker 1: through an airport in Paris and was so flabbergasted by
Speaker 1: it that he actually called a radio station or multiple
Speaker 1: radio stations to put it on record that that's not true.
Speaker 4: It's good, Okay, I hear what you're saying, Yep, there
Speaker 4: is a history of people calling radio stations live. You
Speaker 4: have to acknowledge that if the radio station is the
Speaker 4: first place you go to clear the air. Yeah, sometimes
Speaker 4: gives a Rayja vibe.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: Also, I just smacked fab in the club.
Speaker 5: You call the Yeah, this was a long time ago.
Speaker 2: It was a really long.
Speaker 1: And was apparently on the radio. Being like, that's not true.
Speaker 4: He had to be like twelve or thirteen, because we're
Speaker 4: the same age. I'm pretty sure. Let me check up.
Speaker 5: How old was it Paris radio? I ain't never hear
Speaker 5: nobudamn interview of him talking about this.
Speaker 2: I'm glad.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you asked that, because this is what makes
Speaker 1: it even crazier. He claims that he called a radio
Speaker 1: station in Philly, so like he's in Paris. This is
Speaker 1: pre any version of international calling on cell phones and shit,
Speaker 1: and spends hard earned money on a satellite phone to
Speaker 1: be able to call the radio station in Philly to
Speaker 1: deny that he's been raped.
Speaker 4: Ohso, and this is just me in my head. If
Speaker 4: you were gonna call Philly, why wouldn't you just call
Speaker 4: New York?
Speaker 2: That is that's another one.
Speaker 1: Why not hot Hot ninety seven is the most famous
Speaker 1: radio station maybe in existence, and you need to call them.
Speaker 1: You ain't called the main one. You're like, Noah, Philly's
Speaker 1: got to hear this first.
Speaker 5: I do think under these circumstances, a heterosexual mail or
Speaker 5: someone who wants to be perceived as one, would go
Speaker 5: through any length to clear up such a room, or
Speaker 5: I think that they would climb directly into an active
Speaker 5: volcano fight if it meant, you know, to clear up.
Speaker 1: May have had so I'll burn my face off before
Speaker 1: I let somebody think I'm even remotely gay. It's like, well,
Speaker 1: that's not even the main focus here, man, you were assaulted.
Speaker 4: Let's crime.
Speaker 2: Let's just let's just focus on.
Speaker 1: That part that you were. He's like, not on them,
Speaker 1: and I an't gay in prison?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Also, who was it who told him at the
Speaker 4: airport in Paris?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 5: Were you? Auntie the gate just saying the frensh I'm
Speaker 5: so so.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I can't do address the rooms.
Speaker 2: And he's like, I gotta call Philly. I gotta get
Speaker 2: on the phone with Philly.
Speaker 5: That I even this. I'm questioning, is it really not
Speaker 5: even like a logical I just did what.
Speaker 4: There's no logic to it. It's because us of what
Speaker 4: time of day was it?
Speaker 1: Unclear? I will say that the big part of this
Speaker 1: what time of day was it? The original source, according
Speaker 1: to Snopes of the earliest appearance of this rumor online
Speaker 1: is February twenty six, two thousand and one, So bow
Speaker 1: Wow would have been fourteen years old, I believe by
Speaker 1: that point and thus old enough I guess to maintain
Speaker 1: his composure while denying his sexual assault on Philly radio stations.
Speaker 5: Also, as a fourteen year old with adults in your life,
Speaker 5: why was it up to you to go forward and
Speaker 5: address your alleged assault.
Speaker 4: Because, let's be honest, he wasn't making any of his
Speaker 4: decisions at this point. No, we all saw the diary
Speaker 4: episode where he had to ask his mom if he
Speaker 4: could buy the whip and yeah, yeah. Like there's no
Speaker 4: situation where she's like, all right, here's the quarter.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: They're just walking through the airport and she's like, wow, Wow,
Speaker 2: what you gonna do?
Speaker 4: Ye puts it on you.
Speaker 2: This is this is a difficult position they put you in.
Speaker 5: I didn't raise no bitch this quarter. We can go.
Speaker 4: You take these franks and you put them in that
Speaker 4: freaky foreign phone machine.
Speaker 2: The little ones are dimes. Put those in right.
Speaker 4: No, that's that's that's a lie.
Speaker 2: Sort of unrelated.
Speaker 1: But actually, uh kid, you you asked what did in
Speaker 1: fact happen to bow Wow? And I sort of got
Speaker 1: me asking other questions. One of the things that I
Speaker 1: started to stumble upon was a correlating but unrelated video
Speaker 1: from a former security guard at the Tunnel nightclub in
Speaker 1: New York who claims to have witnessed seeing bow Wow
Speaker 1: get sexually assaulted not by a driver or security guard,
Speaker 1: but instead by a and I'm quoting here, big booty
Speaker 1: Puerto Rican chick from Newark, New Jersey, by Bronch Street
Speaker 1: in the Projects.
Speaker 5: He says in the video.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry this happened at the Tunnel.
Speaker 1: At the Tunnel, bow Wow is there.
Speaker 4: Assaulted by a big booty Puerto Rican woman chick.
Speaker 1: Yes, from Newark, New Jersey, Bronch Street in the Projects.
Speaker 4: How did you know that that's where she was from?
Speaker 1: Thank you for asking that question. He knows that that's
Speaker 1: where she's from, because he goes on to say, and
Speaker 1: I want to make sure I'm getting his quote exactly
Speaker 1: the way he says it. He says, why you rape
Speaker 1: that little nigga? He says, you know he was only
Speaker 1: fifteen sixteen when he came into this motherfucker. You did
Speaker 1: him dirty. But shouts out to you because as you
Speaker 1: did half of the security dirty too, shouts out to you.
Speaker 1: I A'm mad at you.
Speaker 5: Wait, I don't want to.
Speaker 2: Be take your time, yo.
Speaker 5: This person okay, nobody's okay.
Speaker 4: Here, nobody's okay.
Speaker 5: Might they have stumbled upon this person in the projects
Speaker 5: themselves on the street.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say.
Speaker 1: I will say that the interview is is up against
Speaker 1: some brick that that looks distinctly projecting, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 2: It looks.
Speaker 1: It looks especially unkempt behind him.
Speaker 5: So do they mean like just you know, some statutory thing?
Speaker 5: Is this pegging? Are we talking about? Like what? I'm so,
Speaker 5: I'm lost.
Speaker 4: I'm assuming was also with half of security.
Speaker 1: He's saying that that this was such a loose woman
Speaker 1: that she was willing to suck just about any dick there,
Speaker 1: including half of security and bow Wow. Or he's suggesting
Speaker 1: that she sucked off security in order to get to
Speaker 1: little bow Wow and thus sexual.
Speaker 4: I'm sure tons of people made that mistake.
Speaker 5: Look a little bit more believable to me. Yes, bow wow,
Speaker 5: being underage around horny, shiftless niggas and bitches and then
Speaker 5: some stuff happening that shouldn't have happened. I believe that
Speaker 5: because unfortunately niggas do this type of shit, and niggas
Speaker 5: and hip hop rag about it. Yeah, rappers who are like,
Speaker 5: oh my goodness, the day my son turns twelve, I
Speaker 5: bought him his first hoe.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's that terrible Lil Wayne's story.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I actually I'm glad you brought that up. I did
Speaker 1: want to correlate that Little Wayne story. And if we
Speaker 1: all remember Lil Wayne is it's during the Carter documentary
Speaker 1: he's doing that unauthorized where he's talking to Little Twist
Speaker 1: about the fact that he's fifteen and isn't admittedly getting
Speaker 1: pussy yet and tells him he's gonna have to do
Speaker 1: him like Baby and them did him, and then tells
Speaker 1: the story and he uses the exact phrase where he
Speaker 1: said that he was raped at eleven and he loved it,
Speaker 1: and then he goes on to say he remembers specifically
Speaker 1: the words that Baby said, suck Little Wayne's dick. He
Speaker 1: says he goes on to say, uh, you sucked Dick
Speaker 1: so good. You're doing all these niggas around here, Why
Speaker 1: don't you suck Lil Wayne's little ass, Dick.
Speaker 5: Lul Wanne famously fine now, not going through any issues emotionally.
Speaker 1: Yeah, his dreads aren't snapping.
Speaker 4: Off, no type of arrested development going on, just a
Speaker 4: regular however old he is.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not hanging out with Skip Bayless for some reason.
Speaker 2: That doesn't seem like a victim to me.
Speaker 5: Yeah, still shouting out Trump on mixtapes. He's great, he
Speaker 5: was so complicated. Yeah, I only have too much of
Speaker 5: a problem believing that one. Even though it's still like,
Speaker 5: sir crack, why are you on the on the street
Speaker 5: corner talking about like some I don't know, I'm worried
Speaker 5: about a nigga sometimes, Like yeah.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's if you want to feel even sadder about
Speaker 1: the It goes on where he basically goes like shouts
Speaker 1: out to you, Ma, I heard you got eight kids. Now,
Speaker 1: damn sucks to be you. He starts like rubbing her
Speaker 1: nose in the fact that she has children, despite admitting
Speaker 1: that she fucked everybody at security at tunnel, including Little
Speaker 1: Bow Wow, It's like, bro, I don't know what this
Speaker 1: game is, but it's you're just you're being sad and
Speaker 1: you're not doing what you think you are to this
Speaker 1: lady and eight kids. O.
Speaker 5: Lady's probably paid in New York government systems a loan.
Speaker 5: I'm not mad at it. I don't really understand we're
Speaker 5: mad about.
Speaker 4: I hope there's a bright side for her. I hope
Speaker 4: the highlight wasn't you know, sucking ten dicks of the
Speaker 4: tunnel that day?
Speaker 5: Like, we have to consider the fact of that dick
Speaker 5: sucking is fun for a lot of people that suck.
Speaker 5: Dick sucking the dick of someone who is not of
Speaker 5: legal age is nothing to pans about. Sure, but if
Speaker 5: you're just like, you know what, that is my shit
Speaker 5: and there are ten of them in here, and I'm
Speaker 5: I'm going for a record, I don't feel like there's
Speaker 5: anything to shame this person out.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you are in a room with a fifteen year
Speaker 5: old get and they're dick sucked, and you're probably on
Speaker 5: a street corner now telling their business about it. I
Speaker 5: really don't feel like anybody has any wins, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and more importantly, a fifteen year old that you're
Speaker 1: acknowledging did not want what was happening to them, Like
Speaker 1: it's it's he's not framing this as like, oh, I
Speaker 1: saw him get his dick sucked. He's saying, I saw
Speaker 1: you rape him.
Speaker 2: Why would you do that?
Speaker 1: Also, you sucked me and my friends dick. So shouts
Speaker 1: out to you, and it's like, bro, you you gotta reflect.
Speaker 4: There's no order that this is a good night.
Speaker 1: The miliss are right there, and I will say, along
Speaker 1: the lines of our earlier sort of conspiratorial work, that
Speaker 1: does make me feel even more certain that there is
Speaker 1: an intentional effort to let this sort of violence happen,
Speaker 1: right is like the police are right there. These are
Speaker 1: public conversations that just sort of get stuffed down, and
Speaker 1: we're encouraged to tell people now we're good, we'll we'll
Speaker 1: brush that shit off, when in fact, you should have
Speaker 1: called the police and this should have been resolved and
Speaker 1: made our community a brighter, safer place.
Speaker 5: And I know, like getting pussy is you know, oh great,
Speaker 5: I've been doing this since I was sick whatever. I
Speaker 5: literally know people who this thing, this type of thing
Speaker 5: has happening to and it's not fun. It's absolutely governed
Speaker 5: a lot of the ways that they look at intimacy,
Speaker 5: sex like, vulnerability, all kinds of shit. So I genuinely
Speaker 5: don't know why some many of y'all are even allowed
Speaker 5: to have children or be near them. And you say
Speaker 5: these things and then you still can You still can
Speaker 5: You could still go hang around kids. Yeah, it doesn't
Speaker 5: make any sense. No, let's talk about little nas X,
Speaker 5: you know, wrestling like Jesus and tarkanle We agreed.
Speaker 4: I don't love the use of y'all in that breakdown
Speaker 4: that you know what you've been doing, boy, and you
Speaker 4: didn't joke like that. That's not now. It's not the
Speaker 4: fucking time for your lights kids, Shenanigans, fucking.
Speaker 5: Relaxed, And I like Judge bow Wow, he's just they're
Speaker 5: talking about he wishes baby mam wauld get hit by
Speaker 5: a bus or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my boy stay active. You know, he got so,
Speaker 1: he got work to do, and he ain't gonna rest
Speaker 1: just because he's been sexually.
Speaker 5: I will spent like ten years as little Mama, and
Speaker 5: you know you want to just take a step back
Speaker 5: to try something else. Yeah, agreed.
Speaker 1: That's his Chris Gaines, that's his Sasha fears he needed
Speaker 1: he needed to step away from whatever that identity was. Damn,
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Speaker 1: I will say that to the point that you're making
Speaker 1: about people not necessarily finding.
Speaker 5: This cool anymore.
Speaker 1: Lil Wayne, in fact, has a interview with Jimmy Kimmel
Speaker 1: where Kimmel kind of like presses him in a weird
Speaker 1: way to talk about his sexual assault.
Speaker 4: Man, but not I I was gonna say who the
Speaker 4: thought that was gonna be the guy to take that
Speaker 4: to task.
Speaker 1: But they don't crazy. But this is how crazy it is.
Speaker 1: They're not talking about it as sexual assault. He's just like, hey,
Speaker 1: you had sex at eleven, that's wild. Tell us, tell
Speaker 1: us what the fuck happened? Like it's a couch bit
Speaker 1: like a couch bit dog.
Speaker 7: And then at one point girl, at one point in it,
Speaker 7: Lil Wayne kind of does go like, hey, it wasn't
Speaker 7: cool and it wasn't okay.
Speaker 1: And in fact, he also says that the girl who
Speaker 1: did it was fourteen at the time.
Speaker 4: God damn it.
Speaker 1: Thus this is not only just sexual assault, but predatory
Speaker 1: in a pyramid schemey kind of way. Anyway, Uh my
Speaker 1: mind just went to like at the time, like Birdman.
Speaker 5: Was already like you know, in the streets and running
Speaker 5: whatever the fuck. And I guess making me like you
Speaker 5: could have not involved children in sexual stuff, Like you
Speaker 5: could literally just go do whatever wild deviant stuff with
Speaker 5: whoever is consenting, and you know, just bring the kid
Speaker 5: of transformers or teenage Like why I don't.
Speaker 1: I I just don't think that that man has a
Speaker 1: moral code. I think that that that don't exist for
Speaker 1: for babies.
Speaker 5: So there's just too many niggas at large in general,
Speaker 5: who are ye behaving this way? Whether they open because
Speaker 5: a lot of y'all not, I say nothing because you
Speaker 5: know you ain't shit, but it's an amarming amount of
Speaker 5: niggas or like that, Lily, y'all, I'm talking about the
Speaker 5: listener at home people.
Speaker 4: Outside of talking to the little Mama's not us.
Speaker 1: That's okay, right, Yeah, none of this story feels good.
Speaker 1: I should note that I also did some more research
Speaker 1: on a few other child stars, feeling like, well, what
Speaker 1: should we should know at least what happened with these individuals? Obviously,
Speaker 1: the Orlando Brown is a perfect sort of example of
Speaker 1: what the fuck happened to that young man. Todd Bridges
Speaker 1: talks openly about having been sexually assaulted when he was
Speaker 1: coming up on different strokes, and then I bumped into
Speaker 1: Gary Coleman and that got real sad. I don't know
Speaker 1: if y'all remember when he was on Divorce Court, but uh,
Speaker 1: it ain't great. And it then sort of like makes
Speaker 1: a even more complicated ballooning where he ends up on
Speaker 1: Inside Access. I believe this show was and this is
Speaker 1: back when niece Nash was still a home on that show.
Speaker 5: I don't know if I remember that, Yeah, Oh I didn't.
Speaker 1: Insider might have been what it was called, not inside Access,
Speaker 1: but either way, Nisi Nash used to be like a
Speaker 1: gossip host and Gary Coleman came on and they had
Speaker 1: a guest host who pressed him Hella hard about his divorce,
Speaker 1: claiming based off of his ex wife's claims that he
Speaker 1: was physically violent and sort of emotionally abusive with her,
Speaker 1: that he would stomp and throw tantrums and also hit her,
Speaker 1: and the lady presses him so hard that he walks
Speaker 1: off set like Gary Coleman fully like storms off and
Speaker 1: then has an aneurysm, but has written in his will
Speaker 1: that she gets all the money despite him being married
Speaker 1: to a new lady.
Speaker 5: It's complicated, m hm. This also makes me just randomly
Speaker 5: think of rasbe.
Speaker 4: Oh, come on dog, Yeah.
Speaker 5: The whole history of not even just Bsuka, but a
Speaker 5: few groups over at TUG or whatever Christo Yeah was called,
Speaker 5: and just a weird, weird, creepy sort of predictments and
Speaker 5: photo shoots that he didn't have them.
Speaker 1: You saw that photo shoot with im X where they're
Speaker 1: all in the bed and white underwear together, like what Yeah.
Speaker 4: Looked at him formally immature. I don't know how.
Speaker 2: Olivia looked at us.
Speaker 4: The group chat he.
Speaker 5: Used to have B two K to weird ass like
Speaker 5: cutsy poses piled on top of each other and ship.
Speaker 5: It was just like like weird stuff. But yeah, I
Speaker 5: remember very clearly that day because those kinds of rumors
Speaker 5: had already been surrounding Chris Stokes and then when they
Speaker 5: was like, yes, not only is it true, it happened
Speaker 5: to me personally. There was a video in the street
Speaker 5: like actually, it is not true. Chris Stokes never did
Speaker 5: anything to me, and it was like.
Speaker 8: And now he's fucked like he's on Zeus. Yeah, after
Speaker 8: being on Zeus he was in a psych ward and
Speaker 8: recorded like trying to jump out of a window or
Speaker 8: something like that.
Speaker 1: So but yeah, no, he's he's down pretty bad. And
Speaker 1: I'll say none of them are thriving. It's not like, oh,
Speaker 1: like the other members are doing good. O. Marion seems
Speaker 1: the most centered and he has burned every bridge possible
Speaker 1: with all the humanity around him. So I don't know that,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like they hate his guts
Speaker 1: and that just sort of crosses his legs and praise
Speaker 1: all day.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Fuck damn it's dark.
Speaker 4: God damn it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So so as far I I guess maybe this is
Speaker 1: where we we dismount.
Speaker 5: I don't know as.
Speaker 1: Far as this conspiracy goes bory. Where do you stand?
Speaker 1: Where do you feel like like all of this lives
Speaker 1: for you?
Speaker 4: Listen, man, something's happening to these kids. That's that's where
Speaker 4: I stand. Do I think this specifically? No, there's no
Speaker 4: way to tell, man. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I think it's a possibility. Am I sold on it?
Speaker 4: I guess not? But that's not particularly comforting at this moment.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, kid, how about yourself? Where does this live
Speaker 1: for you?
Speaker 5: It's go live in the past where it belongs mostly,
Speaker 5: But I agree, I don't believe it. But there is
Speaker 5: a strangeness, I think, even to your earlier point of
Speaker 5: the fact that it was such a widespread international rumor
Speaker 5: that never made an actual publication, never was on the
Speaker 5: news or anything, but has so many common parts of
Speaker 5: the guy, like the fact that we all say limo,
Speaker 5: we all talk about stitches. Will says thirty fo it's wild.
Speaker 5: So that's kind of strange to me. I don't know
Speaker 5: if that speaks more to like gossip culture or the
Speaker 5: way rumors spread, but they're outside of that one instant.
Speaker 5: It's august that kids, especially in entertainment industry, don't seem
Speaker 5: to have enough eyes on them.
Speaker 2: It's not for kids.
Speaker 4: I think we at some point we just have to. Yes,
Speaker 4: people love watching Corey in the House. It's just not
Speaker 4: for kid I hid. I don't even know why that
Speaker 4: was my go to. That was very odd.
Speaker 2: My boy likes what he likes.
Speaker 4: No, I don't even I got a Cory in the
Speaker 4: House guy. I just couldn't think of anything that I
Speaker 4: wanted one that we hadn't said yet. The point is,
Speaker 4: it's not for kids. It's just not for kids. It's
Speaker 4: just not it's just not.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think whether or not this is true, there
Speaker 1: is an emotional truth underneath it that we would do
Speaker 1: well to acknowledg that at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: we are supporting and promoting a violence against these children,
Speaker 1: even if the violence is not the sexual, graphic one
Speaker 1: that we associate with Lil Bow Wow. And maybe that's
Speaker 1: really where all of this is coming from. It's rooted
Speaker 1: from a jealousy, obviously, from a bunch of people who
Speaker 1: watched a small boy become successful in a way that
Speaker 1: they couldn't make sense of. And the only way that
Speaker 1: they could think to chop him down is by saying
Speaker 1: that he got sexually assaulted. And we say that fully
Speaker 1: knowing that he could have very well been sexually assaulted
Speaker 1: and didn't give a fuck.
Speaker 5: Wold, I'm not just like came Ruth small.
Speaker 2: Because hey, I don't think he's gonna grow anymore.
Speaker 1: That seems that would have been a good guess and
Speaker 1: you could have really landed on something, and it's that
Speaker 1: they're just like, nah, fuck that.
Speaker 5: There's gonna be people who say beyonceing, people say violent dad,
Speaker 5: hay does it exist? But my God, of the things
Speaker 5: to pull out of your hater box.
Speaker 1: Damn christ, Well, I think we did it.
Speaker 5: I don't have any more questions about this.
Speaker 4: I don't have any more state that's for sure.
Speaker 1: Well, meeting adjourny, kid, can you tell the people where
Speaker 1: they can find you and what cool shit you have
Speaker 1: going on?
Speaker 5: I don't know why you would want to do that,
Speaker 5: but I'm as these amazing hosts out at the top
Speaker 5: of the program. You can find me on a podcast
Speaker 5: called The Read. If you need me to spell that,
Speaker 5: then readings should probably be your first priority. I'm not
Speaker 5: gonna do that. And then yeah, Season two rap shit
Speaker 5: just wrapped up and it's unhinged, it's crazy, it's wild.
Speaker 5: It's fun to check that out too. And then other
Speaker 5: than that, you know, just leave me alone, don't bother me,
Speaker 5: don't don't bother stop it. You got cutit the fuck out,
Speaker 5: don't bother bory. You want to tell people where they
Speaker 5: can find.
Speaker 4: You a cool guy, Joke City seven on Instagram, on
Speaker 4: my info is there, come out and see me live
Speaker 4: shows and all that.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, and as always, you can follow me at
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