WEBVTT - Inside the Ton: The Eligible Bachelor

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<v Speaker 1>Bridgerton The Official Podcast is a production of Shondaland in

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<v Speaker 1>partnership with iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to Bridgerton the Official Podcast, your exclusive peak

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<v Speaker 2>behind the curtain of Shondalin's Bridgerton series. We are officially

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<v Speaker 2>just one week away before Bridgerton returns with season three

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<v Speaker 2>on Netflix May sixteenth. We can hardly wink for you

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<v Speaker 2>to see what the season holds. I'm Betsy Beers, executive

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<v Speaker 2>producer Bridgerton and also your host of Inside the Time,

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<v Speaker 2>a deep dive into the genesis and journey of some

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<v Speaker 2>of the most beloved characters from the show. Now, over

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<v Speaker 2>the past two weeks, we've covered The Wallflower, the Rebels,

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<v Speaker 2>the Mamas, and now bookending this four part special is

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<v Speaker 2>The Eligible Bachelor. Yes, we are finally talking about our

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<v Speaker 2>leading man, and that would be Miss Colin Bridgerton. Joining

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<v Speaker 2>me in conversation are the author Julia Quinn, the showrunner

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<v Speaker 2>Jess Brownell, and we're also going to have the opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>to tap into the thoughts of the ever so charming

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<v Speaker 2>wait for it, Luke Newton carrying on the Bridgerton torch

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<v Speaker 2>in a new season. But first, come on, let's recall

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<v Speaker 2>the recent events in the life of mister Colin Bridgerton.

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<v Speaker 2>In season one, Colin spent most of his time running

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<v Speaker 2>around with his brothers. He was the playful but a

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<v Speaker 2>touch naive third eldest brother of the Bridgertons, who didn't

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<v Speaker 2>really know who he wanted to be. Then Marina Thompson

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<v Speaker 2>entered the picture. She saw Colin as a very attractive

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<v Speaker 2>marriage prospect and in answer to her pregnancy predicament. But

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<v Speaker 2>before they could run off together, Lady Whistledown called wind

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<v Speaker 2>of their affair and Marina scheme. With Colin's love crushed

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe just a piece of his naivete stripped away,

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<v Speaker 2>he packed his bag, said goodbye to the Ton, and

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<v Speaker 2>ventured off beyond the comfort of high society in London

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<v Speaker 2>in search of himself. In season two, Colin's time abroad

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<v Speaker 2>had changed him quite a bit. He was more worldly,

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<v Speaker 2>more adventurous, and that delighted the Ton's young women. But

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<v Speaker 2>he surprised everybody when he let it slip he'd sworn

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<v Speaker 2>off women entirely. Maybe he wasn't totally over the whole

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<v Speaker 2>Marina situation. Either way, Colin didn't get involved in any

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<v Speaker 2>romantic plots. Instead, he wandered into the world of business,

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<v Speaker 2>taking a stake in Jack Featherington's mind prospects. But that

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<v Speaker 2>new hobby was a dead end too when Colin figured

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<v Speaker 2>out that whole operation was a big fraud. When the

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<v Speaker 2>season ended, Colin's future remained unclear. No familiar duties to fulfill,

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<v Speaker 2>no pressing career prospects, and definitely no lingering marriage proposals,

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<v Speaker 2>especially after he was overheard telling his buddies he'd never

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<v Speaker 2>entertained the thought of courting Miss Penelope Featherington and who'd

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<v Speaker 2>have the misfortune of overhearing him but Penelope herself. So

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<v Speaker 2>we've seen Colin grow up on screen, whethering heartbreak, adventure,

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<v Speaker 2>and the call of a life beyond the limits of

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<v Speaker 2>London society. This season, he gets to come into his own,

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<v Speaker 2>pursuing his own love match and his own destiny. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>to kick off our discussion about that sweet Colin, I

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<v Speaker 2>sat down with the author of Romancing Mister Bridgerton and

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<v Speaker 2>All the Bridgerton book series, the Incredible Julia Quinn one

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<v Speaker 2>last time. Julian I talked about the inspiration behind Colin's

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<v Speaker 2>rakish character in the books and how he's translated to

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<v Speaker 2>the screen. Now you all know we've spoken a lot

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<v Speaker 2>on this podcast about what nots the TV series took

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<v Speaker 2>from the books. But as Bridgerton fans already know, Julia

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<v Speaker 2>got to go back to the world of the Bridgerton

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<v Speaker 2>novels when she wrote the Rokesby prequel series once the

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<v Speaker 2>show had already come out. So imagine my surprise when

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<v Speaker 2>you told me that TV Colin might actually have inspired

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<v Speaker 2>prequel book Colin In maybe one of the cutest ways possible.

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<v Speaker 3>I do have to share with you my favorite little

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<v Speaker 3>bit of research I did for First Come Scandal. So

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<v Speaker 3>I was writing this as season one was filming. In

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<v Speaker 3>the last book, however, you have Anthony and Benedict as

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<v Speaker 3>little boys and Colin as a baby, and so they

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<v Speaker 3>had already been cast. And I'm not a super visual author,

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<v Speaker 3>so I don't usually have a big sense of how

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<v Speaker 3>people look at something to maybe eye color, hair color,

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<v Speaker 3>that sort of thing. But now I've actually had actors.

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<v Speaker 3>And Luke Newton texted his mom the day I met

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<v Speaker 3>him and got me baby pictures of him, which then

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<v Speaker 3>I used to describe baby Colin in the book. And

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<v Speaker 3>if you go to my website, this is my website

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<v Speaker 3>plug every book has a page, and every book page

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<v Speaker 3>has a section called inside the Story. And if you

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<v Speaker 3>go to the Romancing Mister Bridgerton page and you go

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<v Speaker 3>to inside the Story, you can see Luke Newton's baby

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<v Speaker 3>picture courtesy of his mother. I have permission to post it.

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<v Speaker 3>He's adorable. He's got these chubby, chubby cheeks, which is

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<v Speaker 3>perfect for Colin because he eats so much. And it

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<v Speaker 3>was just so much fun to be able to actually

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<v Speaker 3>visualize characters. For Anthony Benedicte, I just shrunk down Johnny

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<v Speaker 3>and the other Luke. But for Colin, I actually had

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<v Speaker 3>the baby picture.

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<v Speaker 2>Unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 3>It was awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, that's so awesome. I actually have to go

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<v Speaker 2>check that out because I didn't realize that that was

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<v Speaker 2>up there. Oh my gosh, yep. I mean, he's been

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<v Speaker 2>in the background of three novels before he got to

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<v Speaker 2>star in his own right. Did you find it was

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<v Speaker 2>difficult to articulate his voice as he matured, given the

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<v Speaker 2>fact he spends so much time sort of out of

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<v Speaker 2>the books, or did it stay kind of vivid in

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<v Speaker 2>your head?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, in the books, he's actually a bit more

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<v Speaker 3>of a jokester in a way. That I think Benedict

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<v Speaker 3>has come out in the show, so I kind of

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<v Speaker 3>ran with that, and he's sort of like the guy

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<v Speaker 3>everything always seems to work out for, you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>one who just always seems to if he drops his toast,

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<v Speaker 3>always butter side up, you know, that sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And so it just kind of ran with that, which

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<v Speaker 3>was nice because it brought in some nice conflict when

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<v Speaker 3>you know, he's complaining about something going on and Penelope

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<v Speaker 3>just loses it with him. It's just like, what are

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<v Speaker 3>you talking about? Do you have any idea how lucky

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<v Speaker 3>you are? You can do anything you want and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>And he's never thought about his own privilege in that way.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's great because I would have thought, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>taking constantly on European trips and it would be hard

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<v Speaker 2>to sustain. But it sounds like it was always really

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<v Speaker 2>present in your brain. Did people really take world tours

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<v Speaker 2>at that point? I mean, how did that work? They did?

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<v Speaker 3>But and this was a big, big mistake I made.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just had him coming back from some trip

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<v Speaker 3>in the Duke and I and completely forgot about the

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<v Speaker 3>fact that the Napoleonic Wars were going on, and he

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<v Speaker 3>makes a comment about France being dull or something, and

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<v Speaker 3>oh my gosh, I heard from like the History police

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<v Speaker 3>being like one of them was I remember this one

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<v Speaker 3>so well, being like, I don't know what universe you

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<v Speaker 3>live in, but in my universe, Napoleon was blah blah

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<v Speaker 3>blah blah blah aah. So I think actually at some

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<v Speaker 3>point I manage in the subsequent printing to change instead

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<v Speaker 3>of saying Paris was a dull wee finish, to change

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<v Speaker 3>it to some other city, because it's like, no, no, you

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<v Speaker 3>would not have been in Paris then. But it was

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<v Speaker 3>more a little bit before that. It was called the

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<v Speaker 3>Grand Tour about it. Half to a generation before him,

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<v Speaker 3>The Grand Tour was a huge thing and it was

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<v Speaker 3>something that wealthy young men did.

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<v Speaker 2>To finish their education.

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<v Speaker 3>They went off around Europe. But not the women. They

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<v Speaker 3>didn't get to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just press say, not the women. So with

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<v Speaker 2>all the stories you have, all the characters you have,

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<v Speaker 2>how is it that you ensure everybody's personality and motivation

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<v Speaker 2>stands out.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all about the characters who they are, what has

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<v Speaker 3>happened up until this point, and I forget out what's

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<v Speaker 3>going on? I need to know you know where are

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<v Speaker 3>they in the birth order. This is why I asked you,

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<v Speaker 3>are you the youngest or the middle, because I think

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<v Speaker 3>that makes a huge difference, especially then when you know,

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<v Speaker 3>especially if you're a man, where you are in the

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<v Speaker 3>birth order means everything. What kind of parents did they have?

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<v Speaker 3>Did a sibling die? Because that's not uncommon then, and

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<v Speaker 3>so you have to know all these things that happened

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<v Speaker 3>before page one. And I may come up with items

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<v Speaker 3>and experiences for these characters that never end up in

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<v Speaker 3>the book, But I'd like to think that my knowing

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<v Speaker 3>them helps me somehow just to create a more three

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<v Speaker 3>dimensional character, and it helps me to understand their motivations

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<v Speaker 3>and their mindset a little bit more clearly, so that

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<v Speaker 3>it just will then inform what they do.

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<v Speaker 2>And do you feel like it's the same for how

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<v Speaker 2>you keep romance fresh because you have this unbelievable ability

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<v Speaker 2>to make every single story you tell feel like the

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<v Speaker 2>first time. Everything's a very different approach to what the

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<v Speaker 2>dynamic is in a relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, first of all, thank you, because that's actually something

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<v Speaker 3>that I One of the things I actually consciously work

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<v Speaker 3>toward is not writing the same book over and over again. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I'm always very careful to tell people it's

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<v Speaker 3>not that we have a formula. It's not that we're following,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, a predetermined plot, but you do prayer. You

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<v Speaker 3>have to have your couple meet or re meet, and

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<v Speaker 3>you have to have a happy ending. Just like in

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<v Speaker 3>a mystery you have to open with a dead body

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<v Speaker 3>and you have to solve it because you do have

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<v Speaker 3>these parameters. I think that I wouldn't say it's easy

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<v Speaker 3>to write the same book over and over again, but

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<v Speaker 3>you can fall into that trap of you know, somebody

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<v Speaker 3>being like I feel like, you know, I've read six

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<v Speaker 3>books by this author and they all feel the same.

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<v Speaker 3>And so that's something that I have actively tried not

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<v Speaker 3>to do. One of the ways that I try to

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<v Speaker 3>avoid it is to sometimes shake up my process a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit, you know, because I've realized, I if I

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to change it up what I'm writing, like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm still very much enjoying writing historical romance set in

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the regency period or twenty to thirty years

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<v Speaker 3>on either side of it. Whatever, changing up for how

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<v Speaker 3>can help with that? And you know, doing the project.

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<v Speaker 3>The Queen Charlotte book with Shonda was a fabulous experience.

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<v Speaker 3>I've never worked off source material before, and right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it is so interesting and so different and again and

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<v Speaker 3>just use a totally different part of the writing brain.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think coming up with us some ways to

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<v Speaker 3>change how you're doing it can sort of shake things

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<v Speaker 3>up a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll be right back after this short break. Welcome back

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<v Speaker 2>to Bridgerton the official podcast. Julia and I had a

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<v Speaker 2>blast talking about Colin and it's not easy to be

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<v Speaker 2>a middle brother in the Bridgerton TV universe. Colin is

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<v Speaker 2>still clearly trying to find his place in the world,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, mostly by traveling a lot, something that makes him,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, quite the catch in this marriage season,

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<v Speaker 2>not just for the ladies of the Ton, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>of course for audiences too. So after two years of

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<v Speaker 2>metaphorically sitting on the sidelines, Colin is finally front and center.

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<v Speaker 2>So I finished off my conversations with the amazing writer

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<v Speaker 2>and Bridgerton's showrunner Jess Brownell by getting into Collin's role

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<v Speaker 2>in our series thus far. You know what goes into

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<v Speaker 2>crafting a leading man. I mean, we've gone from sort

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<v Speaker 2>of a little brother who clearly in season one is

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<v Speaker 2>desperate to prove that he can take on responsibility, and

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<v Speaker 2>he steps into the whole situation with Marina and does

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<v Speaker 2>what he does. And then, you know, season two he

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<v Speaker 2>sort of seems to be in search of himself to

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<v Speaker 2>some degree. How does he turn into this eligible bachelor

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<v Speaker 2>and worthy mate for the amazing Penelope slash rustle Bound.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he's always been trying to find himself, like you said,

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<v Speaker 4>trying to project this image of who he thinks a

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<v Speaker 4>Regency man should be. Season one, you know, he thinks

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<v Speaker 4>he's ready for an engagement. Season two, he's trying to

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<v Speaker 4>save the Featheringtons from Jack Featherington, and you know, coming

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<v Speaker 4>back talking ad nauseum about his travels. So it was

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<v Speaker 4>something we had to square with when we entered into

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<v Speaker 4>season three. And we have this great device, which is

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<v Speaker 4>that every summer Colin goes on a big, big trip.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what happens on big big trips. You learn

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of lessons, You learn a lot about yourself,

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<v Speaker 4>You do a lot of soul searching. Last season it

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<v Speaker 4>didn't necessarily help him get any clarity, but I think

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<v Speaker 4>this year it did. He spent a little more time alone,

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<v Speaker 4>he maybe spent some time writing his thoughts out and

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<v Speaker 4>when he comes back this season, he thinks he has

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<v Speaker 4>a clear idea of who he is and what he

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<v Speaker 4>brings to the table. And Luke Newton, I mean, he

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<v Speaker 4>brings so much to the table, so it was really

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<v Speaker 4>easy for him to step into that role. And you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it gets a little Bridgerton glow up, which we love

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<v Speaker 4>to see. I have to say, I think Colin's conversation

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<v Speaker 4>with Marina last season was really key. She said to him,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, you've got to stop projecting these romantic fantasies

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<v Speaker 4>and you've got to look at what's right in front

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<v Speaker 4>of you. She was kind of talking about Penelope, and

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<v Speaker 4>it will be a while before Colin's going to realize

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<v Speaker 4>that piece of it. But I do think he's trying

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<v Speaker 4>to focus on living in the moment what's right in

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<v Speaker 4>front of him, instead of projecting something that he's not.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's so well put. He's evolving into this

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<v Speaker 2>character where in the book, my memory is he was

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<v Speaker 2>more Rakish to begin with, right.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep, book, Colin is has this ease, this natural charm

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<v Speaker 4>and playfulness, you know, very lighthearted, never bothered. But I

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<v Speaker 4>think for TV Colin, it made sense to have him

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<v Speaker 4>wrestling with a little bit more. We've seen Penelope wrestle

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<v Speaker 4>with quite a lot with Whistledown, and I think our

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<v Speaker 4>version of Whistledown she's made some bigger mistakes and had

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit more of a struggle than book Whistledown.

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<v Speaker 4>And to meet her in that story, you needed a

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<v Speaker 4>Colin who also is wrestling with something and figuring out

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<v Speaker 4>his identity at the same time, so they really have

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<v Speaker 4>something to share with each other.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got a little bit of a long drive because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Colin swore off women in season one.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah he did, he did, but I think the women

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<v Speaker 4>on the continent have swayed him.

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<v Speaker 2>So I guess we can hopefully expect too that you're

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<v Speaker 2>turning him into a great romantic. This whole wisted on

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<v Speaker 2>thing is I mean, obviously nobody knows about it is

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<v Speaker 2>a big She's got a lot to unpack.

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<v Speaker 4>She's got a lot to unpack. I will also say

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<v Speaker 4>he's got to be worthy of her because once she

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<v Speaker 4>finally realizes her power, which is tremendous, you know, if

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<v Speaker 4>he doesn't step into his own as well, then he

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<v Speaker 4>might not be deserving of a woman with that kind

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<v Speaker 4>of power. So so yes, I think Colin is giving

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<v Speaker 4>us the romantic side of him that we want, the

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<v Speaker 4>Rakish side, the confidence, and he's going to have to

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<v Speaker 4>fight for Penelope, if he decides that's what he wants.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, he's uh. I also think, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a possibility he goes to Europe and he may

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<v Speaker 2>come back with a new way of looking at everything,

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<v Speaker 2>because I think it's smart when you say when you travel,

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<v Speaker 2>you learn things. And I always sort of feel like

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<v Speaker 2>with Colin, you never really know what he's going to

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<v Speaker 2>come back as, because he's the guy. In a weird way,

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<v Speaker 2>he most overtly transformed slightly, He's still Colin with that

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<v Speaker 2>lovely sense of humor. But I do think which is

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<v Speaker 2>very normal for these characters is everyone's trying on new outfits.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, if Anthony's this and we all know this,

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<v Speaker 2>who have siblings? If Anthony's this, you know and Benedict's this,

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<v Speaker 2>what am I?

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<v Speaker 4>He is the one who is trying on different personalities.

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<v Speaker 4>For sure, you've got the dooty brother and you've got

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<v Speaker 4>the rebel, Okay, so who am I? He's not sure.

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<v Speaker 4>I will say it made him a somewhat difficult character

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<v Speaker 4>to write. Initially, we had to really dig deep because

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<v Speaker 4>it's not a specific issue like Anthony, like I'm obsessed

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<v Speaker 4>with duty and I need to let go of that

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<v Speaker 4>to find love with Colin. It's this more cerebral, soul,

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<v Speaker 4>holistic thing of uring out what kind of man he

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<v Speaker 4>wants to be, figuring out what kind of person he is.

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<v Speaker 4>And you can try to be a certain kind of person,

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<v Speaker 4>but at the end of the day, he is already

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<v Speaker 4>a certain kind of person and he has to learn

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<v Speaker 4>to embrace that. He has to learn to embrace the

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<v Speaker 4>Colin Bridgerton who is kind, who is a little bit goofy,

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit sensitive, and is man enough, person enough

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<v Speaker 4>in every way.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So what went into the decision that we'd end

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<v Speaker 2>the last season on Colin bad mouthing Penelope Because it

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<v Speaker 2>was really it was a really interesting tonnage. It was

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<v Speaker 2>sort of like, Wow, your day, couldn't get your time,

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<v Speaker 2>could get any worse.

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<v Speaker 4>Her best friend breaks up with her, basically finds out

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<v Speaker 4>she's whistled down, throws some sort of deserved grief her way,

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<v Speaker 4>and then the boy she's loved forever says, no way,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I do think that Penn has some lessons

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<v Speaker 4>to learn.

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<v Speaker 2>I do.

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<v Speaker 4>I think she's powerful and should be commended for what

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<v Speaker 4>she's done with Whistledown in a lot of ways, yes,

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<v Speaker 4>but in other ways, she's hurt some people along the way,

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<v Speaker 4>and I think she needed to go through the struggle

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit and hit a bit of a rock

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<v Speaker 4>bottom so that she could have some time alone figure

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<v Speaker 4>out who she really is and what she needs to

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<v Speaker 4>do to get out of that situation. And at that point,

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<v Speaker 4>we already knew that we wanted to do Colin and

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<v Speaker 4>Penelope for season three, so there was an awareness that

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<v Speaker 4>that moment was a good launching pad into the season.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, she enters with no one, which gives her

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<v Speaker 4>a long way to go, so dramatically it brings with

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<v Speaker 4>it a lot of interesting opportunities for characters.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's a phenomenal obstacle. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just a phenomenal obstacle for somebody who too. There's really

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<v Speaker 2>only one person in the world that she has trusted

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<v Speaker 2>besides Alouise to be who he is delightful, funny, genuine

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<v Speaker 2>and to hear him, sir of playing the game of

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<v Speaker 2>wanting to go along with the guys at the very

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<v Speaker 2>best scenario and the worst scenario that he fully means

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<v Speaker 2>it is neither as good. Thank you so much, Jess

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<v Speaker 2>for all of your brilliant insight and discussion. One final

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<v Speaker 2>piece of the puzzle, you know, before we set you

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<v Speaker 2>off into season three. Shondaland sat down on set with

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<v Speaker 2>the amazing Luke Newton, who offered a glimpse into what

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<v Speaker 2>it's been like to play Colin thus far in his

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<v Speaker 2>excitement for season three. I wonder if he's as excited

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<v Speaker 2>as we are.

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<v Speaker 5>I feel so lucky that I got to do season

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<v Speaker 5>one and two as Colin as part of this incredible

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<v Speaker 5>ensemble and like really explore how I wanted to play

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<v Speaker 5>him and his development through each season. What's interesting about

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<v Speaker 5>Colin is that the emotional side of it is kind

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<v Speaker 5>of a bit pretense. It's all like a bit of

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<v Speaker 5>an illusion that he's created, and now I get to

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<v Speaker 5>the front story of this amazing show and have all

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<v Speaker 5>of those experiences.

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<v Speaker 2>It's weird.

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<v Speaker 5>It's it's like having character research, but I actually lived it.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like, actually insane. I get to have elements of

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<v Speaker 5>Colin that I've had before, but then introduce this new side,

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<v Speaker 5>So it's like a new job even in terms of

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<v Speaker 5>how much I'm going to be in and I just

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<v Speaker 5>get to come back and play play another version of

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<v Speaker 5>this guy that I've learned and loved for like three

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<v Speaker 5>years now.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to thank my special guests Luke Newton, Jess Brennell,

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<v Speaker 2>and Julia Quinn. I'm your host, Betsy Beers, and thank

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<v Speaker 2>you for listening to Inside the time. It's been a

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<v Speaker 2>pleasure to explore all six of these beloved characters with

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<v Speaker 2>all of you. Next, mark your calendars for the new

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<v Speaker 2>season of Bridgerton, coming to Netflix May sixteenth, and for

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<v Speaker 2>Bridgerton the Official podcast companion season dropping alongside it week

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<v Speaker 2>by week. I'm Betsy Beers, thank you for playing, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad I don't have to wear a corset.

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