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Speaker 2: the look. You have more comments than anyone. I've just

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Speaker 1: You know you said something today on FS one that

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Speaker 1: bad and the actors are famous and considered high profile.

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Speaker 1: Is that there's nothing against actors. I'm not marginalizing the industry.

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Speaker 1: But when I looked at that strike, they resolved the

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Speaker 1: writers first. I said, this Stranger Things had eight year

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Speaker 1: olds acting. Eight year old couldn't write it, they couldn't

435
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Speaker 1: direct it, they could act in it. And that doesn't

436
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Speaker 1: mean there's not great actors. Eight year old couldn't plan

437
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Speaker 1: the NBA, couldn't be a senator, they can act well.

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Speaker 2: So it's like that, I think as children. I mean,

439
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,920
Speaker 2: that's a little they're the only people eligible. You can't

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Speaker 2: get a thirty year old to play the role. But

441
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Speaker 2: before the side, until you got to the senator NBA

442
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Speaker 2: analogy where I agree with you is great writing, can

443
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Speaker 2: it is pulled right in a way that was a

444
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Speaker 2: star actor if the product is if the if the

445
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Speaker 2: plot and the writing is terrible, you can't keep me.

446
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Speaker 2: But you can have a totally anonymous cast, which anonymous

447
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Speaker 2: doesn't mean they're not good actors, just you know what

448
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,120
Speaker 2: I mean, not famous, and if the writing's good, you're

449
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Speaker 2: in there entirely.

450
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Speaker 1: Like the where think about this Marlon Brando's had eight

451
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Speaker 1: bad movies.

452
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Speaker 2: Why the writing was bad.

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Speaker 1: You don't blame Marlon Brando, you go. The writing socked

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Speaker 1: Tom Hanks the terminal. Nobody says, I'm not watching a

455
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Speaker 1: Hanks movie again. The writing wasn't good enough. The writing

456
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Speaker 1: carries it, not the acting, though there are specific Jeremy

457
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Speaker 1: Irons again to me, Don Cheadle, Ed Norton, Michael Keaton,

458
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Speaker 1: there are there are people that Jason Bateman just kind

459
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Speaker 1: of pulls me.

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Speaker 2: In whatever he does. Oh, by the way, stars that Yeah,

461
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Speaker 2: here's the thing that the entertainment industry from the movie

462
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Speaker 2: perspective has really taught me a bit as far as

463
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Speaker 2: how to do my show, which is I don't think

464
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Speaker 2: you can underrate the importance of charisma which I don't

465
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Speaker 2: have a ton of, or likability which I started which

466
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Speaker 2: I realized, or my career. Oh that's important. Like the

467
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 2: like the thing is so the you mentioned those those folks,

468
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 2: so like Tom Cruise. I can't explain it, but the

469
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 2: charisma is the word and that guy it's just like

470
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Speaker 2: he pulls you in. A guy who I think that

471
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Speaker 2: maybe people will laugh at me for this, but a

472
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Speaker 2: guy who I think has it. I just if he's

473
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Speaker 2: on the screen, I find myself smiling. Is Mark Wahlberg,

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Speaker 2: That guy's funny, man Like, he's just funny and he's

475
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Speaker 2: having a good time and he's good looking like that.

476
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Speaker 2: That so on that level. So that's that's where like

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Speaker 2: the the and where the the perfect storm is. For instance,

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Speaker 2: I would argue The Sopranos, which had apex acting what

479
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Speaker 2: Gandalfini and Falco did and basically all the actors in

480
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Speaker 2: the series except for the kids, were a plus and

481
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Speaker 2: some of the best television writing ever. And you have

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Speaker 2: true art, you have like, oh, I can watch that

483
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Speaker 2: again and again and again, saying yeah, that's if you

484
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Speaker 2: bring them both together where and they don't. It's not

485
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Speaker 2: like Gandalfini was an A lister before the Sopranos, but

486
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Speaker 2: he was an A list talent. Clearly he was one

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Speaker 2: of the most brilliant performers ever.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, I think it was Marlon Brando said,

489
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Speaker 1: and this is where James Gandolfini he found the perfect role.

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Speaker 1: It didn't even look like he was acting. You start thinking,

491
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Speaker 1: I bet he does have some mom guys, right, right.

492
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Speaker 1: So Marlon Brando used to always say you can only do.

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Speaker 2: You can do.

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Speaker 1: Yourself and a version of your father. Oh nobody has

495
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Speaker 1: the range.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you could you do.

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Speaker 1: You're doing a version of yourself or a version of

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Speaker 1: Dad as a man. That's the range. That's all you

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Speaker 1: can do. And so when I watch Gandolfini, there are

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Speaker 1: there are roles, and I think de Niro has leaned

501
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Speaker 1: into this a lot. I think Michael Keaton's quirky, he's

502
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Speaker 1: leaned into it. I thought James Gandolfini, it's like, oh no,

503
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Speaker 1: he found the perfect role.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: I watched him in a couple other movies. I really

506
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Speaker 1: liked him.

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Speaker 2: He's terrific.

508
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Speaker 1: But that role, there are perfect roles. It's just like

509
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 1: somebody once said to me Colin Afternoon Radio, and I'm like, no,

510
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Speaker 1: that doesn't work for me.

511
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Speaker 2: I'm not hostile.

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Speaker 1: I'm more the I'm going to take you through what

513
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 1: happened last night, my version, my story of what's happened

514
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: last night. I don't want to take calls and yell

515
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 1: and argue over stupid conflict. That's not my person night.

516
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 1: That's Mike Frances's personality. I do think actors there's a

517
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: perfect role out there, and the actors that find it

518
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 1: often get type cast, but they do it over and

519
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 1: over and over again, and that's criticized, but what it is,

520
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: it's the closest version of who they are. And so

521
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 1: Nicholas Cage can do the same thing over and over.

522
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,360
Speaker 1: Now leaving Las Vegas, he may do something that diverts

523
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 1: and you're like, wow, what a performance. But I think

524
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Speaker 1: most of the times I watch Michael Keaton kind of

525
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Speaker 1: that sardonic sense of humor, or you watch Anthony Hopkins,

526
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Speaker 1: or after I watched Silence of the Lambs, everything felt

527
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Speaker 1: like I heard that, I heard that, I heard that

528
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Speaker 1: voice in everything after that.

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Speaker 2: I do think there are perfect roles for actors.

530
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Speaker 1: And once you hit it, don't try to get happier

531
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Speaker 1: than happy keep doing versions.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well, and that's and I think for comedic

533
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Speaker 2: actors it's probably easier. They they're not they're I shouldn't

534
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 2: say easier, but they're not judged for it. Like nobody

535
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 2: judges Sandler or a lot of or Mark Wall. We're

536
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,360
Speaker 2: gonna say, we're basically playing this not the same guy,

537
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 2: but a similar guy and a bunch of stuff. Dramatic actors,

538
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 2: they you know, are judged in a way, it's like

539
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 2: test your range, see the different things you can do. And yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean I find I personally, maybe it's because my

541
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 2: daughters are so into it. I find it to be

542
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 2: a really like fascinating, uh journey of like trying to

543
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 2: learn these things in the like whether or not the places.

544
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Speaker 2: I mean, the ten year old is not obviously doing

545
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Speaker 2: things on this level with the eighteen year old. She's

546
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 2: a theater major, you know, you over California, Santa Cruz,

547
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 2: and she's out there really trying to like learn things

548
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 2: to do it.

549
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's very few comedians can do drama now, obviously,

550
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: Robin Williams, Goodwill, Hunting Awakening, Steve Carell. I also think

551
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Speaker 1: I think Steve Carell's brolly. I think I think he's

552
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: actually better fun I think he's better in drama than

553
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: he is in comedy, and I think he's funny as hell.

554
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: You do have these guys that can leave their personality.

555
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: Robin Williams is really a unicorn. Well, let's just acknowledge it.

556
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: Jim Carrey is brilliant. But I didn't buy the Cable

557
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 1: Guy like I like I buy certain things because he

558
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: was so physical. But I do think you rarely see

559
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: a comedic actor do drama well because smartly they're playing

560
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: the role they're meant to be.

561
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Speaker 2: And that's okay. I can I ask you a question?

562
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 2: And then I want to I've got something happening in

563
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Speaker 2: my life that I want to tell you about. But

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Speaker 2: first I have a question. Can you say comedic actor?

565
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 2: I want to know if you agree with me on this.

566
00:29:54,440 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 2: I think the single most impressive h job I guess

567
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 2: in our in any form of the entertainment business, and

568
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Speaker 2: I think it's or the most difficult. I think impressed

569
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Speaker 2: the right word, and I don't think there's a close

570
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Speaker 2: second is stand up comedian.

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Speaker 1: And oh, I'm so glad you said that you agree.

572
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Speaker 1: First of all, you have to write your own material.

573
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Speaker 1: You get one take, you have to perform it in

574
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Speaker 1: front of drunks. It's incredibly hard. Somebody else's writing.

575
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Speaker 2: You have nothing but your thoughts. It is every single

576
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 2: it would be like doing a television show with a

577
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 2: live like in front of on your eyeballs, the ratings

578
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 2: by the minute to where like it's like oh, because

579
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 2: every joke that doesn't hit you know, and you have

580
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Speaker 2: to keep going. And it is it is to me,

581
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Speaker 2: I am more impressed by stand up comedians in anyone

582
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 2: in any in the business. And I also think it

583
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 2: would be the biggest rush of any of the jobs,

584
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 2: Like if you were great at it, I would think, like, oh,

585
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 2: I can't imagine anything cooler Like that is actually to me,

586
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 2: And people disagree, maybe they think I'm crazy. I think

587
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 2: it's actually cooler than rock star because even a rock

588
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 2: star there's a there's a whole production, there's a band,

589
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 2: usually there's music, there's there's you know, it might be

590
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 2: flames or whatever it is. There's dancing, a lot of stuff.

591
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 2: If you are able to walk onto a stage with

592
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Speaker 2: a microphone in your hand, no video board, know nothing,

593
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 2: and first ninety minutes keep people's wrapped attention and keep

594
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 2: them laughing, and at the end they stand in applaud

595
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 2: it's to me the one of the most remarkable things ever,

596
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Speaker 2: Like I can't imagine how that feels, and I think

597
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 2: it would be take such courage and be so hard.

598
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 2: I think it's so cool. I think it's so cool.

599
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the only thing that rivals at his

600
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: Broadway where it's one take, it's a live audience. It's

601
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Speaker 1: often memorizing. I mean, I've I've actually known an actor

602
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: that had to that worked years and years ago. I

603
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: was I was intimidated listening to him describe his average night.

604
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Speaker 1: It is a Broadway actor frightening.

605
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

606
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Speaker 1: Especially if you're a lead or or you you've got

607
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: like heavy work you're on stage.

608
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,479
Speaker 2: Oh, bad stuff. I can't imagineimidate the I wild I

609
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 2: told Wilde's a version of this, and he made fun

610
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 2: of me. He was like, oh, He's like, thanks for

611
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 2: the breaking news that the Moulin Rouge in Paris is impressive.

612
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 2: And I was like, okay, well you got it, buddy.

613
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 2: But when my wife and I went to Paris this

614
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 2: we I was like, hey, I know it's touristy whatever

615
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 2: it is, but I want to see what the Mulin

616
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 2: Rouge is. People say it's nice, and yes, I understand,

617
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 2: it's a burless show, so it's there are topless women

618
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 2: involved in it. It was two hours of, honest to god,

619
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Speaker 2: the most impressive, non stop, like one hundred miles an

620
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Speaker 2: hour performance. And seeing these people, I'm like, there are

621
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Speaker 2: forty people on stage. They are all going fast and

622
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 2: doing like you know, different movements and and The thing

623
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Speaker 2: is they do, and I'm sure they it's not all

624
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 2: the exact same people, but they do three shows a night,

625
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 2: seven days a week in that theater. And two things

626
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 2: cribed me. One was I was like, Uh, these tickets

627
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 2: were four hundred bucks each. There's a thousand people in here.

628
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 2: You're doing three of these a night, Like how much

629
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Speaker 2: money does this place print? And the next thing was like,

630
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Speaker 2: I don't even I don't think once you get cast

631
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 2: you practice. I think you just performed because there's no

632
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 2: time to practice because the theater is all day doing

633
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 2: these shows. And yeah, I Broadway is. That was the

634
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 2: big shocker to me about moving to New York that

635
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 2: I loved Broadway. I would have never thought I liked it.

636
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't watch musicals, I don't care,

637
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 2: and I find it. It's one of my favorite things

638
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 2: about living here is like the because you are amazed

639
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 2: that what these people are able to do, and then

640
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,839
Speaker 2: you know they do it six nights a week. They're

641
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 2: just there. That's why they're just there doing it. It's unbelievable.

642
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: Circling back to comedy, it's why Colin Quinn, to me,

643
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Speaker 1: has always been one of the most impressive comedians that

644
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Speaker 1: he does these Broadway. You know, he writes these essentially,

645
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 1: you know, he finds a director, but he basically it's

646
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: a one man show that Colin Quinn has done. And

647
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: I watched couple of them online and I was just like,

648
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it's a lot of work he

649
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,919
Speaker 1: you know, obviously it took six months to write. Colin Quinn,

650
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: to me is one of the real great performers in America,

651
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: and he does stuff nobody else does. He does stand up.

652
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: Years ago. I was in New York, probably ten years ago.

653
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 1: I was in New York one night and I'm having

654
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 1: cocktails with a buddy who's from the Pacific Northwest, and

655
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: I said, hey, let's go to a comedy show and

656
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: see who's performing. Colin Quinn was up there, and you

657
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 1: could tell he was working on his act. He was

658
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:28,760
Speaker 1: in warm ups.

659
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 2: And he slayed it.

660
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: He was just so funny and he was kind of going, now,

661
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 1: that's not going to work, and he was, and I

662
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: thought it was. It was probably an hour of just

663
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: ad libing. Eight minutes of it were laugh out loud funny.

664
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Speaker 1: Thirty five to forty were really good, and then you know,

665
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Speaker 1: some of it figure I've seen David Spade live four

666
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: or five times, you know, some of it just doesn't

667
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 1: you know, He's just he's not there yet. He's got

668
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: a funny line, but he doesn't have the arc complete.

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Speaker 2: But I think back to that.

670
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Speaker 1: I think Colin Quinn's really really smart.

671
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 2: Really clever, the one person show. And then we can

672
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 2: I guess, change do whatever? Change? How was do whatever?

673
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 2: The I don't know if so. There's a show one

674
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 2: of the obviously Law and Order. There's a bunch of

675
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 2: law and orders, so Law and Order Organized Crime, which

676
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 2: was the spin off of SVU. They took Stabler, the

677
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 2: guy from SVU, and gave him his own show. Well,

678
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 2: the second lead in that show is a woman named

679
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 2: Danielle Monet Truett who went to grade school with my wife.

680
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 2: In grade school, they were friendly but not like close friends.

681
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 2: But then when she got and she was a like

682
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 2: the vintage starving actor for twenty years. She had one

683
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 2: big role on a show called Rebel was the star

684
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 2: that show didn't last that long, and was doing plays

685
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 2: and working whatever, and then she got cast in a

686
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 2: new Law and Order as the second lead and it's like, oh,

687
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,720
Speaker 2: moving to New York. This is, you know, my big break.

688
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 2: And she and Danielle reconnected. This is four years ago maybe,

689
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 2: and now they are super close friends. So like it's

690
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,919
Speaker 2: and they went to grade school together and weren't that close,

691
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 2: but now they are incredit le close friends. And this woman,

692
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 2: before Law and Order had taken off, she and a

693
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 2: friend wrote a one woman show called Black Girl Blues,

694
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 2: and she got it. She produced it, and we went

695
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 2: to go see a screening of it, and it is

696
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 2: she walks up on stage. She only the only thing

697
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 2: she ever outfit changes or whatever, is like essentially how

698
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 2: her hair is done, or the shoes she's wearing, or

699
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 2: how her shirt is tied, just because she plays three

700
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 2: different black women who are their lives are kind of

701
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,360
Speaker 2: intertwined but they don't know it. And she is standing

702
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 2: on stage for ninety minutes, three totally different characters that

703
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 2: you can just tell by the way she changed her dialect,

704
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 2: her attitude and her delivery. And I, I mean, I've

705
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 2: watched the woman's television show and she's a friend of mine.

706
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 2: I like her. I knew she was talented. This thing

707
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 2: ended and I went up door and I said, I

708
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 2: don't know what I just saw here cause like you're

709
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 2: like you were on stage by yourself for an hour

710
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 2: and a half telling a story with no one else there.

711
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 2: Just there's like an omniscient narrator that occasionally would chime in,

712
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 2: but that's it. And not only did everyone follow it,

713
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 2: people cried because of one of the scenes, like it

714
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 2: was that. Yeah, that stuff is really really a unique talent,

715
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 2: and I think I really respect the courage aspect of it.

716
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 2: The this thing is gonna go ninety minutes and if

717
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 2: it sucks, I'm gonna feel I'm gonna like I'm gonna

718
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 2: be up here on the stage for ninety minutes, and

719
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 2: if thirty minutes in, I'm like, oh, everyone in here

720
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 2: hates it. I gotta just keep going, like the curage,

721
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 2: like that courage is crazy, and yeah, I think it's wild.

722
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 2: I think it's wild.

723
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: All right. So you said you had a personal an ague.

724
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, so so Colin. And I know this will

725
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 2: this will sound confusing to you, but you know, I

726
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 2: might have a reason for you to check Kansas City

727
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 2: off your list of cities you haven't been to, because

728
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:25,720
Speaker 2: I in the spring am getting married in Kansas City.

729
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 2: And now you might say, Nick you're married, and technically

730
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 2: yes I am. However, you don't I think know this

731
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 2: about me? Why my wife and I never had a wedding,

732
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 2: didn't have any money. We had set aside money for

733
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 2: a wedding, and then I got the job in Houston

734
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 2: and so we moved, and the money we set aside

735
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 2: for the wedding, we said, should we use it on

736
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 2: a house? And she said yes, so we use it

737
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 2: on down payment for a house. So she and I

738
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 2: didn't quite a lope. But I mean we got married

739
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 2: in Reno, Nevada with tw people there, and so it

740
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 2: has always been promised that on or around our ten

741
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 2: year anniversary we will have an actual, not a vow renewal,

742
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 2: but a full blown wedding. Buddy, So we're having a

743
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 2: full blown wedding there. There will be pomp and circumstance.

744
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 2: And while you will get an official invitation in the mail,

745
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 2: I'm delivering it to you now as you can be

746
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Speaker 2: part of my la contingent that goes to the wedding.

747
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Speaker 1: I didn't know Kansas City had an airport because my

748
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 1: entire life, I've never walked through an airport and seen

749
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: a sign to Kansas City. I swear to God, now

750
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: I'm in Salt Lake all the time because I have

751
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: a place in Park City. I see London, I see Paris,

752
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 1: I've never seen.

753
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 2: So here's the thing. You know, what's very funny. So

754
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 2: up until a year ago, not only did Kantady have

755
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,280
Speaker 2: an airport, I would argue, we had the greatest airport.

756
00:40:55,360 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 2: And here's why. Now, literally no restaurants, literally no, no, no, no,

757
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 2: no restaurants. There's no there. There might there was like

758
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 2: one peaked coffee shop. But here's how it worked. Every

759
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:16,240
Speaker 2: gate you got out of your car, you walked into

760
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 2: the airport, you walked to your gate, and each gate

761
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 2: had its own security just for the gate. So there

762
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 2: was no security line because every every gate there was

763
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 2: eighteen gates, eighteen little X ray machines and whatever it is,

764
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 2: it would you would, honest to god, you could walk

765
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 2: get out of your car at seven o'clock and be

766
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 2: sitting and you know, waiting for your plane at seven

767
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 2: oh four. It was the most convenient airport in the world.

768
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 2: But because there was literally no restaurants and no amenities whatever,

769
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 2: a lot of plays didn't fly into it. And so

770
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 2: much to my chagrin, they redid it, and now it's

771
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 2: big and fancy and there's restaurants and whatever, and I

772
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 2: hate it. Everybody loves it, but I hate it. It's

773
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 2: like a big international airport now. But it says it's

774
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 2: not my charming kans at the airport. But yes, it

775
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 2: has an airport. And yeah, and I'm getting married to

776
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 2: my lovely wife and it's I know, it's weird said

777
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 2: I'm getting married to my wife, but I am. And

778
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 2: so we're doing that in the spring and it'll be

779
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 2: a hell of a time. It'll be a big party,

780
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It might be the social

781
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 2: event unless Kelsey and Swift get married. It's gonna be

782
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 2: the social event of the year in Kansas City. Not

783
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 2: a lot of big social events. Come on, give me

784
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Speaker 2: a rick. The volume