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You're listening to taking stock with pim Fox 32 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: and kapolee knews on Bloomberg Radio. The race is on 33 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: an Oracle took a big step today buying net Suite 34 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: in a deal valued at about nine point three billion dollars. 35 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: Netsuites products include customer relationship management software that will help 36 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: Oracle compete against the likes of Salesforce, dot Com and Microsoft. 37 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 1: Joining us now is on rog Rana. He's senior analyst 38 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: of software and I t services for Bloomberg Intelligence on Rock. Welcome. 39 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: Thank you. Now we know Oracle has been heading in 40 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: this direction as you were just telling me. Uh. In fact, 41 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: Larry Allison was a h investor in net Suite along 42 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: the way, so not exactly a surprise. How important is 43 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: this for Oracle? It's fairly important for Oracle to be 44 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: much more aggressive in the cloud applications space. Um, they 45 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: have been behind salesforce, they have been behind work day 46 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: when it comes to applications that are sold through the cloud. Now, 47 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: the history is both SAP and Article has dominated this 48 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 1: place for the last twenty plus years selling on premise applications. 49 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: Now with this new way of selling applications through the cloud. 50 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: You know, the three largest companies have been sales course 51 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: worked in net suite and you know a few smaller 52 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: ones and the growth is all in the cloud area. 53 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: So as Article is trying to move their product portfolio 54 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,399 Speaker 1: from on premise to the cloud, you know this kind 55 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 1: of fits into their uh, you know, grow organically as 56 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: well as through acquisition strategy. On a rug, just to 57 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: describe CRM customer relationship management, we're talking about being able 58 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: to manage a salesforce and their interaction with current clients 59 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 1: but also potential clients. Doesn't really matter whether it's in 60 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: the cloud or wherever it is, just has to work. 61 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: Net suite do they bring small and mid size businesses 62 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: to Oracle in a way that is almost you know, 63 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: one of the reasons why you want to buy that sweet, 64 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: so that a couple of things first. In the CRM space, 65 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: you know, the big goodll Obviously Salesforce, dot Com, um 66 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: next wee does not do that. The net Sweet is 67 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: in the e r P space, which is your financial accounting, 68 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: financial management and things like that, and only for the 69 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: small to midside, mostly for the small to midsize customers. 70 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: As you said, UM, so far we really don't have 71 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: a bohemoth like Salesforce for CRM or work Day for 72 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: HR applications um in in the e r P space, 73 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 1: most of those are on premise applications that were deployed 74 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: by s a P. Now Article has a product which 75 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 1: is a cloud based the RP system. But what I 76 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: think will happen with this this place is you have 77 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: the next SWEET product. You have the financial and the 78 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 1: sales and marketing arm of of Article, which now you 79 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 1: can go and start selling this product to the to 80 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: the large enterprises. How much does this mean for Oracle's 81 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: bottom line? See again, it's it's more of a strategic 82 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: move because again it's not going to add that much 83 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: to the you know, earnings or to the to the 84 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: top line. But really what you're going to see is, 85 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: you know, you know, a few years later when most 86 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: of the applications that people are using would be cloud based. 87 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: Article wants to be a part fit at that point. 88 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: You don't want to be left behind, which is partially 89 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 1: the reason why you see a lot of cloud acquisitions 90 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: in the space. SAP has been acquiring a lot of 91 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: entities for the past few years. Article actually has been 92 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: a lot a little you know, quieter on on the 93 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 1: acquisition front compared to these some of the other companies. Well, 94 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: I'm just looking at the performance of the stock of 95 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: Oracle today. Investors must like the deal because the shares 96 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,679 Speaker 1: are higher by about three quarters of a percent. Shares 97 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: of net Suite are higher by more than eighteen percent. 98 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 1: Any chance that anybody else is going to come in 99 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: and make a competing bid for net Suite. I mean, 100 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: I'm leading you on because I want you to tell 101 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,559 Speaker 1: me who's the biggest shareholder of net suite. It's lady 102 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: is one of the biggest area, one of the biggest shareholders. 103 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: But the thing is, I think that the valuation for 104 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: this particular deal, let close to eleven plus times revenue, 105 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: is one of the more expensive ones on the market. 106 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: So it's not as if you know, he's he's getting 107 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: a bargain over here, uh um, you know, in this deal. 108 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: So I know it will be very tough for somebody 109 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: else to come in and you know, either top the 110 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 1: price or try to get it with so much of 111 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: you know, voting power that Larry has. Is there a 112 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: risk of a disruptor of a whole other approach to this, 113 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: this kind of uh task inside a company that you know, 114 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: or a call the spends way to keep up, but 115 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: someone else it's going to leap frog ahead. It's going 116 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: to be tough only because you have a lot of 117 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: customer relationships and your systems are already ingrained to what 118 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: you do, whether it's supply chain, whether you're serial accounting, 119 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: I mean you're that's the lifeline of a particular business, 120 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: so it's not just easy to uproot it. And which 121 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: is partly the reason why the on premise business is 122 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: still relatively stable for a SAP is because it's just 123 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: not easy to rip it about. I want to thank 124 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 1: you very much for coming and sharing all this information 125 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: with us. On A. Rag Arana is a senior analyst 126 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: of software and I T services for Bloomberg Intelligence, providing 127 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: real time and unique research as well as context and 128 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: a variety of industries as well as markets and government 129 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: factors that affect business operations are terminal. Customers can access 130 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: this function at b I go on or speaking about 131 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: Oracles nine point three billion dollar purchase of net Suite, 132 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: shares of net Suite higher right now by more than 133 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: eighteen shares of Oracle up by three quarters of represent 134 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: and the shares of Salesforce dot Com up more than 135 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 1: one percent. This is taking stock. I'm pim Fox, my 136 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: co host Kathleen Hayes, and this is Bloomberg. Where does 137 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton go? And next We're going to be speaking 138 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: with Irene Finnel Hanegman from Columbia University about Clinton's platform 139 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: and what it means for the economy.