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Speaker 1: You ever had total freedom of the press, that's very important.

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Speaker 1: What is your thinking on that? Understand how wall could

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Speaker 1: But the fix is in always let me ask you

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Speaker 1: and you know, bit by bit now in the meantime,

428
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Speaker 1: this man's character is trashed, character assassination at a level

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Speaker 1: that nobody should ever have to go to. My argument

430
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Speaker 1: at the time was that we believe in due process

431
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Speaker 1: that it has served this country so well, and the

432
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Speaker 1: presumption of innocence that has served us so well. And

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Speaker 1: I'll say I said it then and I'm going to

434
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Speaker 1: say it now, and it Michael Avanadi deserves due process,

435
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Speaker 1: the presumption of innocence, as he claimed in the press

436
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,679
Speaker 1: conference when he got out of I guess he was

437
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 1: being booked and charged in Los Angeles. He deserves it,

438
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: but he didn't afford it to anybody else. He didn't

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Speaker 1: afford it to Judge Kavanaugh. And in the case of

440
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: Democrats in general, it was just a crush bludgeon, destroy

441
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: kills somebody's character anyway, anyhow you need to do it.

442
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 1: And there is a massive danger if we go down

443
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Speaker 1: this road for everybody. I don't know, Michael Lavanati, I

444
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 1: don't know. We don't even know who the woman is.

445
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Speaker 1: We don't have the facts of the case except that

446
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:29,880
Speaker 1: he's been charged and he proclaims his innocence. But why

447
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 1: it's so important is that this fundamental constitutional protection of

448
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,919
Speaker 1: ours goes to the heart of our legal system. And

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00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 1: I will adhere to that. You know, all my life,

450
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Speaker 1: I've been and I said this earlier from the Richard

451
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Speaker 1: Jewel case on I learned such a lesson when the

452
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 1: Atlanta Journal constitution. I'd love to see what that payoff

453
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 1: was when I think they eventually got sued. Lynnwood was

454
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 1: the attorney, really good attorney down in the Atlanta area,

455
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Speaker 1: and he took on Jewel as a client. And yah,

456
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 1: he fits the profile of a lone bomber because he

457
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,159
Speaker 1: lives with his mother. That was the whole case, and

458
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,239
Speaker 1: I said this is absurd on the air. Had no

459
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Speaker 1: idea Richard Jewel was listening to my show at the time.

460
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,479
Speaker 1: I was a local radio host in Atlanta. And then

461
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 1: the next thing we know is he wasn't the guy.

462
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: He was the hero, and everybody had gone with it,

463
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 1: and they went insane with it and he ended up

464
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Speaker 1: being innocent. We have seen rush to judgment constantly in

465
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Speaker 1: the Obama years. That drove me nuts. Cambridge police acted stupidly,

466
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Speaker 1: or Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman or Ferguson Missouri or Baltimore

467
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 1: or what Duke Lacrosse was another example where there were

468
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Speaker 1: a few of us. By holding to those principles, we

469
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 1: ended up being right with whole judgment wait for the

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Speaker 1: facts to come in, and I did in every one

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Speaker 1: of those cases. The UVA case is another one. Anymore.

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Speaker 1: You can think of Linda, We've done it all the time,

473
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 1: you know, maybe a Austrey of this. It's pretty scary stuff.

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Speaker 1: It's scary stuff. And the thing is, I may not

475
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,959
Speaker 1: care for Michael Avanati's politics, but he deserves what he

476
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 1: didn't give Kavanaugh. And I think people really, you know,

477
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 1: because it's him, and because of how over the line

478
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: he went. It's in one sense, I just think it's

479
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: a very important moment for everybody to stand back because

480
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Speaker 1: if it's you, if it's someone you know, if it's

481
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 1: someone you love, if it's someone you care about, you

482
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 1: are gonna want those those core principles working for you.

483
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 1: It's hard, all right, Let's get to our busy phones

484
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 1: eight hundred nine four one, Sean. If you want to

485
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Speaker 1: be a part of the program, let's go to Linda

486
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Speaker 1: Andrew's Air Force base. What's up, Linda? How are you?

487
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: I thank you, Sean. I am pass I am so upset.

488
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 1: They need to shut the boro completely, shut it down

489
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: now present. They need to shut it down. These people

490
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: are dangerous. They are saying that they're waiting for all

491
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 1: the Carabean so they can come through all of them together.

492
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 1: And they don't care how many millions soldiers so they

493
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: won't not damash them. They are seeing all kinds of

494
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 1: stuff in Spanish in the media is not reported in

495
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: pointing this. They need to shut the border completely. None

496
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: of them come in enough, it's enough. This is disgrateful.

497
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Speaker 1: Well look, I want people to do it legally. I

498
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 1: have no problem. I'm you know, all the years that

499
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Speaker 1: I worked in restaurants, all the years that I worked

500
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Speaker 1: I'll give you one example, when I was in my teens.

501
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: There was a place in Long Island called Eisenhower Park.

502
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: At the time, it was called Salisbury on the Green.

503
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Speaker 1: It's a different place. Had five golf courses and it

504
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: was like a wedding factory. It was unbelievable. I mean,

505
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: they do five weddings some Friday nights, believe it or not,

506
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Speaker 1: five on Saturday five and Saturday night five, Sunday five

507
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: Sunday night to night. Ten Bar made a fortune as

508
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Speaker 1: a kid, at least I thought at the time. And

509
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: there were plenty of people that worked in the restaurant

510
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Speaker 1: at the time. I think it's a county owned restaurant

511
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: if I don't, if I'm not mistaken. And once or

512
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: twice every year in would come the immigrations customs people,

513
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: and all these guys that worked in the kitchen, for example,

514
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: would they be racing out the back door onto the

515
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Speaker 1: golf course, and you know, some would get caught and

516
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: others would get away with it, get get away and

517
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: then come back to work. When I work with them,

518
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: I saw good people, great people, actually doing hard jobs.

519
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: I don't know what their pay was, but I don't

520
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: expect it was very high. Wanting what we take for granted,

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00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 1: I get it, I understand it, but it has to

522
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Speaker 1: be done legally. That's that's what we're asking all right,

523
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: back to our phones. Donna is in Staten Island. Donna,

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00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: how are you the all new AM seven ten? Wr

525
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: what's going on? How are you? My friend? I'm good?

526
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: What's happening? So I find myself scratching my head because

527
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: I'm kind of waiting for all those women in the

528
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Speaker 1: Mecho movement and all of the you know, all the

529
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Speaker 1: left wing people to be screaming about Michael Avenati. Should

530
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: I not hold my breath left to turn? Think about

531
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Speaker 1: all the people that joined with Avanadi and said I

532
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: believe her. I believe her. I mean, I can do

533
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 1: a montage. I believe this one. I believe that one.

534
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: And it just as a rush to judgment in that

535
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: case for the worst possible reasons, for pure political gain

536
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: and nothing else. And you know, imagine if you are

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Speaker 1: the one of the daughters of Justice Kavanaugh, Now imagine

538
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,479
Speaker 1: that for a second all your life, this will follow you.

539
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: This will be with you. Names, character, reputations matter, and

540
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: when you destroy somebody's in this case, there was no

541
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Speaker 1: evidence to back up or corroborate any of this. None

542
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: witnesses names that were mentioned said no, it didn't happen,

543
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 1: and it was. It's a shame what they did here,

544
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: but it's not the first time. This is what borking is,

545
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: is what they did to Justice Thomas. This has happened

546
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 1: far too often to far too many good people. You know,

547
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: maybe people Look, if I was a total hypocrite, I'd say, oh,

548
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: maybe I believe whoever this anonymous woman is. I don't.

549
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about it. I just know he

550
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: deserves what Kavanaugh deserved. He deserves presumption of innocence, due process.

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00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: And that's my point. This is a monument defining moment

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00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: this week when you have someone like Cosby going to

553
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: prison and then in the same breath having Kavanaugh possibly

554
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: going to the highest court in the land. I am

555
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,479
Speaker 1: blown away before I saw this stuff. I'm like, oh,

556
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: come on, what could being this guy's yearbook like little nonsense?

557
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: This is six stuff, the Devil's triangle in your yearbook

558
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: forever and ever. These people in Congress right now and

559
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: not Senate Judiciary Committee, these white men old by the way,

560
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:58,239
Speaker 1: I'm not protecting women to protecting a man who is

561
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Speaker 1: probably guilty. Not only do women like doctor Ford who

562
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: bravely comes forward need to be heard, but they need

563
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,959
Speaker 1: to be believed. They need to be believed. I just

564
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: want to say to the men in this country, just

565
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: shut up and step up, do the right thing. Let

566
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 1: me just say right at the outset, I believe doctor Ford.

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00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: I believe the survivor here. I believe her. I stand

568
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: with her and shows up on Monday. I don't think

569
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: she should be bullied into this scenario where it's a

570
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: he said, she said, it's a sham hearing, and I

571
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: don't think she should participate in it. It's definitely attempted

572
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: to rate. I don't see it any other way. It

573
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: was very upsetting to hear this, very disappointing. If it

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00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: proves to be true, I will disavow him. Um. I

575
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: think he should take a polygraph test just to clear

576
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: the air. I think that that would help him and

577
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: then we'll see what happens. What drives me crazy is

578
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: the hypocrisy in these moments. When it's you who you like,

579
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: you want to believe, and I think if you believe

580
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: in due process with Kavan, I should also believe in

581
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: due process with Michael Abanati. We don't know a lot.

582
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: We don't know who the alleged victim is. But if true,

583
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: you know, I'm so disappointed. I'm so disappointed, and I

584
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,719
Speaker 1: agree with you, we would have to disavow him, all right.

585
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: What a different tone you get from the media. Gladuate

586
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: with us our two Sean Hannity Show eight hundred and

587
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: nine for one, Sean, if you want to be a

588
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: part of the program, what a difference in take in

589
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: an attitude. If it's Judge Kavanaugh, somebody you have a

590
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: political agenda against, it's I believe you men, sit down

591
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,719
Speaker 1: and shut up. I believe it's guilty, guilty of rape,

592
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: guilty of this. And now we had on Wednesday of

593
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Speaker 1: this week, Michael Avanati who brought forward the most sillacious

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Speaker 1: charges against Judge Kavanaugh visa via client Julie Swittneck. We'll

595
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: get it to that in a second. But he was

596
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: booked on suspicion of domestic felony, domestic violence, and he

597
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,919
Speaker 1: has vehemently denied allegations, saying I've never struck a woman,

598
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 1: I will never strike a woman, and I've been an

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00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: advocate for women's rights my whole career, and he said

600
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: it's completely bogus. Now he's claiming, apparently that it's somehow political.

601
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: I don't see what the political nature of it is.

602
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: But that's neither here nor there. We found ourselves as

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00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: a country. And I actually think the Republicans during the

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00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: Kavanaugh hearing, they for once, because they often screw things

605
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: up royally, they treated these allegations albeit last minute. Democrats

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Speaker 1: held onto them, you know, for what two months at

607
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: the time, sat on them, didn't bring them up, and

608
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, last minute, we're getting to the

609
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,760
Speaker 1: eve of the vote, then they bring up this, and

610
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: then new charges come up, and then another. Then Michael

611
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,800
Speaker 1: Avianati comes out with Julie Sweitnick. So the Republicans said, okay,

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Speaker 1: they put a pause on the hearings, brought back Professor

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Speaker 1: Ford and also Judge Kavanaugh, now Justice Kavanaugh of the

614
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: Supreme Court, and we saw what happened with him, and

615
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,720
Speaker 1: we saw the impact it had on his family and

616
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: each case one by one when you started digging down

617
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: into the allegation in his case thirty six years ago.

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00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 1: In the case of Professor Ford, for example, she had

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Speaker 1: identified an eyewitness to the incident that had happened when

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00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: he was back in high school. And in that case,

621
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Speaker 1: the eyewitness said that never happened. I don't recall it

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00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: ever happening ever in any way, nor did anyone else

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Speaker 1: the other people whose name she mentioned, And then we

624
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 1: go through the list, we get to Julie Sweatnick, who

625
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: had the most outrageous allegations of anybody. Almost on a

626
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: weekend basis, she was claiming that these teenage boys were

627
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:52,720
Speaker 1: drugging drinks punch at parties and lining up in halls

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00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 1: and literally waiting their turn to gang rape girls that

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Speaker 1: had been drugged, and that you know, Kavanaugh was a

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00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,280
Speaker 1: part of it. And she does an NBC News interview

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Speaker 1: and the affidavit that she had given with in this case,

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00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,760
Speaker 1: Michael Avanati, and also what she said in the interview

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00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, well, no, not exactly what I'm saying,

634
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: and the story changes on some very important issues, key things.

635
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:24,439
Speaker 1: And those also names that were mentioned never corroborated her story, either,

636
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: one person saying I never even heard of her. I

637
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: have no idea who she is. So it fell apart.

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Speaker 1: Now there is Chuck Grassley has sent a recommendation to

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Speaker 1: the Department of Justice for a criminal investigation into what

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Speaker 1: has gone on here. Justice Kavanaugh was voted onto the bench.

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Speaker 1: I think the person that made the most articulate case

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Speaker 1: was well too. Lindsay Graham was amazing in that hearing

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Speaker 1: number one and number two, Susan Collins of Maine. She methodically,

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Speaker 1: and we played the whole hour on this program, went

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Speaker 1: through step by step by step how she reached her decision,

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Speaker 1: and I thought it was probably her finest moment in

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Speaker 1: the US Senate, and good for her. Now, when Avanati

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Speaker 1: came out at the time with sweatneck, it was guilty, guilty, guilty, guilty, guilty.

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Speaker 1: You know that, it's affirmed. It's this again. This is

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Speaker 1: going back, you know, thirty six years and now he

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Speaker 1: has these charges brought against him. My argument at the time,

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Speaker 1: no due process, no presumption of innocence was provided Judge Kavanaugh,

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Speaker 1: none because of political expediency. And now here we are,

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Speaker 1: I just wonder. I mean, I have no idea whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: I don't even have an opinion on any idea of

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Speaker 1: whether these charges against Michael Avanati are true or not true.

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Speaker 1: I hope and pray if they're not true, that he

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Speaker 1: is exonerated. If it is true, I hope justice would

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Speaker 1: be served. I have nothing against Michael Lavanati. I do

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Speaker 1: have a problem about those people that say I believe

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Speaker 1: that know nothing. You know, at some point, we have

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Speaker 1: got to make a decision here, and I think the

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Speaker 1: decision is take any charge seriously. That's what it should be,

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Speaker 1: like the Republicans did into Kavanaugh hearings, Take it seriously,

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Speaker 1: vet out the stories, and try to come to the truth.

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Speaker 1: And that goes for Avanati. Nobody listening to this program

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Speaker 1: now knows a fact about what really happened. It's something

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Speaker 1: that obviously they thought it was serious enough of a

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Speaker 1: claim to go forward with the you know, the suspicion

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Speaker 1: of domestic felony domestic violence charges. But we don't know,

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Speaker 1: and that's just fair. But I wish why didn't he

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Speaker 1: afford Kavanaugh what he now I'm sure wants for himself.

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Speaker 1: Greg Jarrett, Fox News legal analysts, also author of the

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Speaker 1: number one best seller of the Russia Hoax, Carry Severinos

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Speaker 1: with US Chief Council Policy Director Judicial Crisis Network. Greg,

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Speaker 1: your thoughts, Well, you were the very first person within

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Speaker 1: a couple of hours of the Abanati story breaking that

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Speaker 1: has said. You said this very clearly and repeatedly. He

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Speaker 1: deserves the presumption of innocence and due process, and you're

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Speaker 1: to be commended for that, and I think you really

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Speaker 1: led the way for a lot of people. The irony,

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Speaker 1: of course, as you point out, is that Abanati wanted

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Speaker 1: to deprive Kavanaugh of those basic, fundamental and important American

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Speaker 1: principles of justice. Now he wants to enjoy those presumptions

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Speaker 1: of innocence and due process himself. So the irony is

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Speaker 1: lost on no one. You know, it's anybody can make

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Speaker 1: an accusation, but we have a process in America which

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Speaker 1: proof is required. But you know, Abanati wanted to essentially

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Speaker 1: ruin the life and career fine reputation of Brett Cavanaugh

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Speaker 1: without presentation of roof because he submitted an affidavit that

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Speaker 1: we now know was faulty. It was in some parts

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Speaker 1: disavowed by his client, Julie Sweatnick, when she gave an interview.

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Speaker 1: So it's correct that the Department of Justice should be

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Speaker 1: investigating Abanadi and Sweatnick as to whether or not they

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Speaker 1: presented false material, fault and misleading statements to Congress, which

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Speaker 1: is by the way, a very serious crime. You know,

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Speaker 1: I stand by your original statement that Abanadi is innocent

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Speaker 1: until proven guilty. Carry many of the people that came

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Speaker 1: out immediately and said I believe it did whether it

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Speaker 1: was Sweatneck or whether it was Professor Ford, etc. This

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Speaker 1: was before Professor Ford was known to anybody. It ever

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Speaker 1: said a word to anybody. It was only a letter

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Speaker 1: that had been sent to Diane Feinstein through another I

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Speaker 1: believe state legislator at the time. All of those people

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Speaker 1: that said I believe, not one if I heard say

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Speaker 1: a single word about whether we should believe the woman

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Speaker 1: that's making the allegations against Michael Lavanati. Is it because

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Speaker 1: it's not important to them? Is it because the issue

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Speaker 1: is not important to them? Is it because there's no

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Speaker 1: politics in play? It was just like all the allegations

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Speaker 1: that existed, And again these are recent allegations. These aren't

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Speaker 1: thirty six years old, or the allegations against Keith Ellison

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Speaker 1: or many on those on that Senate Committee, the Senate

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Speaker 1: Judiciary Committee that love the Clintons and ignore all the

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Speaker 1: issues with Bill Clinton and Juanita and Kathleen and Paula, etc.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting, isn't it which people they choose to believe,

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Speaker 1: and then they just are silent on others. Absolutely, I

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Speaker 1: mean this silence is deafening, and I think it's exactly right.

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Speaker 1: These are the same people who lined up to defend

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Speaker 1: Bill Clinton even in the face of proven misconduct. And

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Speaker 1: you know here they're not willing to stand by the

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Speaker 1: anti due process principles they wanted to put on their

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Speaker 1: political enemies. They don't want to apply to everyone's What

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Speaker 1: we need here is exactly as we've been talking about,

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Speaker 1: a rule of law that applies to everyone. That means

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Speaker 1: innocent until proven guilty. Whether I like your politics or

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Speaker 1: dislike them, whether it's going to help or hurt my

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Speaker 1: personal interests. We have to make sure we're being fair

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Speaker 1: to all parties. And like you, I don't know what

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Speaker 1: the truth isn't it. I hope that we find out

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Speaker 1: the truth. But we can't jump to the conclusions based

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Speaker 1: on whether we like the person accused or think it

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Speaker 1: would be politically convenient for that person to be found

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Speaker 1: guilty or thought guilty. Because people kept on saying, well,

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Speaker 1: this isn't a court of law, This is just the

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Speaker 1: court of public opinion. That doesn't change things. Our American

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Speaker 1: system is one where there's a fundamental value of understanding

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Speaker 1: that innocence until proven guilty, and that means, you know,

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Speaker 1: when you're in a courtroom, but also in terms of

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Speaker 1: how we speak in the court of public opinion. So

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Speaker 1: I think it's great that we're able to talk about

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Speaker 1: this and say, let's reserve judgment and hopefully maybe set

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Speaker 1: an example. I'm hoping that some people on the left

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Speaker 1: seeing this contrast. I mean, I was struck when you

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Speaker 1: were reading it, hearing his words of well, I've never

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Speaker 1: done this, and I never would. I was set my

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Speaker 1: career advocating for the rights of women. That's almost word

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Speaker 1: for word what gret Kavanaugh said. Yeah, tell you right

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Speaker 1: now if you believe it he or believe it then,

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Speaker 1: And I guess he's upset. I guess the RNC is

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Speaker 1: asked for the arrest records in this particular case and

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Speaker 1: he claims he's innocent. I you know, I'll even take

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Speaker 1: it a step further, Greg, I hope no man would

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Speaker 1: ever do this to any woman ever. Um, I would

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Speaker 1: hope that would be the case, regardless of ones politics.

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Speaker 1: But I can make a prediction, and I know with

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent certainty I'm right. If the Democrats need

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Speaker 1: to do this politically again, the ones that won't say

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Speaker 1: anything now or didn't say anything about Clinton or Ellison,

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Speaker 1: they will be They'll be right back to where they

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Speaker 1: were it's happened. Look at look at the slander of

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Speaker 1: Kennedy against Robert Borke. Look at the what Clarence Thomas

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Speaker 1: went through. Real quick, Greg, Well, let me just say

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Speaker 1: a couple of things. As a California lawyer grew up

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Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, in practice there I can affirm that

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Speaker 1: they don't make an arrest and book somebody on a

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Speaker 1: felony charge without probable cause, which means at least the

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Speaker 1: detectives who made the arrest and booked him on that

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Speaker 1: felony charge felt that there was evidence of under the statute,

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Speaker 1: significant visible injuries. But not a Democrat. That one line

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Speaker 1: in TMZ that you know if it turned out to

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Speaker 1: be true, Greg, legally, well, she hit me first. That

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Speaker 1: to me would be a devastating I'm devastatingly hard to

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Speaker 1: defend in court, wouldn't it? If that impact is true,

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Speaker 1: it would On the one hand, it's a self serving

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Speaker 1: statement by the accused that he's defending himself. But on

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Speaker 1: the other hand, it's an admission, a confession that he

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Speaker 1: hit her. Second. You know, it's one thing to defend

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Speaker 1: yourself against an individual, especially a woman who's hitting you,

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Speaker 1: and you might grab her arms or wrists and so forth.

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Speaker 1: But these were reportedly injuries to the face of the

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Speaker 1: alleged victim, and so that will be a damning admission.

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Speaker 1: If in fact it's true that he hit her in

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Speaker 1: the face and at some point carry I would assume.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess others have applied for this as

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Speaker 1: well on the media, but people are wanting the arrest records.

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Speaker 1: I assume with that might be some you know, if

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Speaker 1: there's any physical evidence that might be released or mug shots.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what they're looking for. Yeah, I definitely

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Speaker 1: if possibility of that stuff's going to come out. I mean,

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Speaker 1: she hit me first is something I heard yesterday from

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Speaker 1: my five year old. So I'm hoping that. I'm hoping

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Speaker 1: that that's the true to be an accurate excuse, because

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Speaker 1: it doesn't didn't work with me as a mom, and

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Speaker 1: I don't think it would work in court. But I

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Speaker 1: think I think there's just so much more did a

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Speaker 1: lot more research that needs to be done. Before we

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Speaker 1: can come to any conclusions on This is the challenge

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Speaker 1: with no corroborating evidence and all of obviously a lot

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Speaker 1: of politics, but the rest of his life, his wife's life,

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Speaker 1: and his kids' lives. Sadly, these charges against just as

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Speaker 1: Kavanaugh are out there and what he went through. And

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Speaker 1: that's the danger of somebody if they make an allegation

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Speaker 1: and it's false or unprovable or no evidence whatsoever. You know,

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00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: people rush the judgment just because of maybe the noise

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00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: that they hear on it, and they don't have any objectivity.

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Speaker 1: The principles of due process presumption of innocence are key.

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Speaker 1: All right, thank you both, Carrie, Thank you Greg. Always

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Speaker 1: great to have you, my friend. Eight hundred and nine

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Speaker 1: for one, Shawn Tolfrey telephone number. All right, a lot

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Speaker 1: of calls today. We will get to the phones right

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Speaker 1: after this. As we continue, unemployment numbers are down. The

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Speaker 1: importance of getting jobs. Why is that so important for

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Speaker 1: our country? Well, it's it's our identity, you know. What

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Speaker 1: we do is always has been the centerpiece of who

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Speaker 1: we are. And for the last ten years my foundation

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Speaker 1: has been focused on opportunity that actually exists. So there's

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Speaker 1: this narrative. We've discussed at a thousand times that the

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Speaker 1: reason people aren't working is because opportunity is dead. That's

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Speaker 1: just not the case. We have nearly seven million jobs

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Speaker 1: now that are available. If you want a job, there's

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Speaker 1: a job waiting for you. Well, seventy five percent of

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Speaker 1: them don't require a four year degree. They require training.

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Speaker 1: So my little foundation has always been focused on that.

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Speaker 1: My grandfather, who was kind enough to bring her into

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Speaker 1: the world, or at least in part, was an electrical contractor,

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Speaker 1: lived right next door to us, so I had a

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Speaker 1: I had a front row seat growing up to the

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Speaker 1: kind of work ethic and the kind of skill that

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Speaker 1: built our country. You know your grandfather, where's yes, that's

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Speaker 1: your dad, that's your dad, mom, And that's not a right,

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Speaker 1: and which brings us to a full introduction. This is

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Speaker 1: Peggy Row right here, and that's you were kind enough

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Speaker 1: to How did you get your son to write the

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Speaker 1: foreward on your book? That was be cool? He's famous.

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Speaker 1: I know he is right, but he's still my son.

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Speaker 1: And he does what I tell him to do. What

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Speaker 1: he would you like it all? Yes, we would love,

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Speaker 1: We would love. We love the fact that you are

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Speaker 1: now one hundred percent employed promoting this book. It's called

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Speaker 1: about my mother. Yes, it is about and it is

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Speaker 1: about my mother, about growing up with a mother who

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00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: was always in charge, always in charge. What does funny?

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Speaker 1: Always in charge? She made all the decisions, all the decisions.

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Speaker 1: She told me which political party I was in when

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Speaker 1: I was when I was a little Well, that's personal

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Speaker 1: him now everything Now I think for myself, how important

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Speaker 1: is that to be a strong mother? What'd you learn

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Speaker 1: from her? She was honest first and foremost. Um Like

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00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 1: I say, she was always in charge. She made all

851
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: the decisions. We didn't do anything unless it was okay

852
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 1: with My mother gets your calls here in a few minutes.

853
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,439
Speaker 1: One hundred and nine for one Sean is our number.

854
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: You want to be a part of the program. I

855
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: know people get sick of when I talk about my

856
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: jobs that I've had paper boy at a dishwasher at twelve,

857
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,800
Speaker 1: short order cook at well, I did steaks and lobsters,

858
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 1: so maybe not short order at thirteen, bus boy, fourteen

859
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: fifteen waiter, bartender, and then my years in construction as

860
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: a house painter. I learned how to hang wallpaper, made

861
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,280
Speaker 1: a lot of money doing that. Laying tile, framing houses,

862
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: doing roofing and reconstruction. It was, you know, over two

863
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: decades of my life. And I was just obsessed with

864
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: Micro's show about dirty jobs and I because I felt like,

865
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 1: you know, look, I even worked on a shipyard once.

866
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 1: It was a pretty dirty job at times. And I

867
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: see these crazy jobs that he goes see and it's

868
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: it fascinates me to see the hard work the lives

869
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 1: of other Americans, what they do to support themselves in

870
00:49:55,880 --> 00:50:00,359
Speaker 1: their families. It's amazing. It's just it's fast an eating

871
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 1: things that we don't know about other people. Anyway, Micro

872
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 1: is back with us, and believe it or not, his

873
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 1: mom is with us. This is amazing. He brings his

874
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: mother with us, and he's authored a new book about

875
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 1: my mother. True Stories of a horse crazy daughter and

876
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 1: her baseball obsessed mother. A memoir from from the book. Um, anyway,

877
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: welcome both of you to the program. Mike car are

878
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: you sean? Everything is great, But let me just set

879
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 1: the stage for you. Right now, we are sucking cross

880
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: sound traffic. I'm in an suv with my parents, my

881
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 1: mom just eating. She's sitting here next to me, thrilled

882
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 1: by the way people people in New York. Are you

883
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: in New York? They don't know what a HOGI is?

884
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 1: That's a Rhode Island term. Yeah. Well it was some

885
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 1: sort of meat thing wrapped into some sort of bread thing.

886
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 1: And you know it's called us a sandwich, it's called

887
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 1: a it's called a I don't know what a subway

888
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,439
Speaker 1: call it now, I don't even know I A foot long,

889
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: whatever it is. My mom destroyed it and now most

890
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: of us gone from her mouth. So she's ready to speak. Mom,

891
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: say hey to Sean Annity, Hi, Hi, Peggy Row, how

892
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 1: are you now? You've got to be so proud of

893
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 1: this crazy son of yours. Um, But also so you

894
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: write this book about true stories of a horse crazy

895
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: daughter her baseball obsessed mother, and you know, UM, a

896
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: pretty fascinating life with this crazy son of yours. Well,

897
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 1: what can I say? It's real part of my life.

898
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 1: My mother was part of my life for what's seventy

899
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: how many years? Seventy years? Yes, um, and Mike's been

900
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: part of my life for fifty six years now. And

901
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: if it weren't for Mike, I don't think I would

902
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 1: have published this book. And if it weren't for Mom,

903
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be sitting here today. You wouldn't even you

904
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: would It wasn't for mom and dad, you wouldn't be

905
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:46,399
Speaker 1: here period. Let's be very blunt and honest about this true. Well,

906
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 1: you know, it's funny because I think we just had

907
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 1: Veterans Day yesterday and I was talking about how we

908
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: don't have any freedom, we don't have any liberty, we

909
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: don't even have a country. But for all those people

910
00:51:56,560 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 1: that bravely they sacrificed every they put everything on the line.

911
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: I love people to put everything on the line with

912
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 1: heroism and courage and just you know, they do what

913
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 1: needs to be done. Forget Washington. It's the heart and

914
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: soul of America is the people that get up every day,

915
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 1: shovel coffee down their throats, get their kids dressed for school,

916
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 1: pack their lunch, race out, do their ten, twelve, fourteen hours,

917
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: you know, cook something as quickly as they can do

918
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: the homework with the kids, pass out from exhaustion. You know.

919
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 1: The ones that obey the laws, played by the rules,

920
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 1: pay taxes that they're the ones, Mike, that make this

921
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 1: country great. You covered them with Dirty Jobs. That was

922
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: my favorite show. Why did you stop posting it well.

923
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 1: We did three hundred of them, and there was a

924
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:55,839
Speaker 1: genuine concern that I was going to collapse permanently. But look,

925
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,320
Speaker 1: believe it or not, never say never. It wouldn't shock

926
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 1: me to see dirty jobs. I'm back around because I

927
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: love that. I would I would want to do that.

928
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: That's a show I would want to do myself. That's

929
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 1: how much I loved what you wish were careful, what

930
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: you wish for. If I'll make you a deal, if

931
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 1: you want to switch careers for a couple of months,

932
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 1: by the way, you really want all the bad press.

933
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:23,399
Speaker 1: I get people like you. People love you. They don't

934
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: love me. I have some people that love me, but

935
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: I have a whole group of other people that would

936
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: love to hear the news Hannity's dead being reported at

937
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: the top of the hour news. Trust me, Well, listen.

938
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what to say to that, except that

939
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: the only person I've ever met on planet Earth who

940
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 1: was universally loved by every single person who ever met her,

941
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: is trapped in this suv with me right now. It's

942
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: my mother. And that's I mean, I'm not even obviously

943
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 1: I'm biased, but I'm sitting here. You've been in the

944
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: book business a long time. She's she's going to the

945
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:55,920
Speaker 1: top of the charts, Sean, and she's no, No No, she

946
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: beat Bob Woodward's book in sales. That was that blew

947
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,320
Speaker 1: my mind. I was like, that is awesome. I thought

948
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,720
Speaker 1: that was great. How did how did that make you feel? Peggy?

949
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:09,320
Speaker 1: Oh my golly. I was beyond excited. That was great

950
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 1: And I might do it again, who knows. I hope

951
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 1: people go buy the book just for that reason. And

952
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: you wonder why I have enemies. She's going to be

953
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: eighty one years old in two weeks or or something

954
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 1: like that. Well, what did your birthday? January? January? How

955
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 1: could you be fifty six years old and not know

956
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 1: your mother's birthday? What's wrong with you? I'm under a

957
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 1: lot of pressure, Sean. Okay, I I host a lot

958
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 1: of high pressure shows, and it's very hard for me

959
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: to remember obvious things. But I know this much. I

960
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 1: know this much is true. The divide in the country

961
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 1: will never ever go away unless we find things that

962
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:56,240
Speaker 1: still unite us and truly join us. Motherhood is somewhere

963
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 1: on that list. And what my mom has done, whether

964
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: she meant to or not, is prove it She's written

965
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,320
Speaker 1: a book that proves, beyond a shadow of a doubt

966
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 1: that decency is alive and well in households from sea

967
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 1: to shining Sea. You just have to look for the

968
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 1: American people are are the best. It's the people that

969
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 1: do all those crazy jobs that you would cover on

970
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 1: your show. Let me ask you that question, what are

971
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 1: the craziest dirtiest jobs of all those three hundred episodes? Well, look,

972
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 1: I mean it's very difficult to compare you know, a

973
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 1: bridge builder with a skull cleaner or an opal miner.

974
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 1: I couldn't be a bridge builder because I would freak

975
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 1: out at the height. No, you think you couldn't do it.

976
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: But if you compare it to mining opals, which involve

977
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 1: as being lowered down, I wouldn't want to do that one.

978
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 1: By the way, I fell over a roof three stories

979
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 1: once in the middle of web a lot. Sehnah, Well,

980
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 1: it's the moment I woke up and became a conservative,

981
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:55,240
Speaker 1: and I busted my arm. Literally I hit the ground

982
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 1: and imagine from your elbow from my elbow down was

983
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 1: totally just connected from my arm and dangling and yeah,

984
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: and and interestingly, I went and I snapped it perfectly

985
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 1: back into place. That's true. Story. You've got to write

986
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 1: a book called I fell off a roofment became a conservative.

987
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 1: It's true. I mean, but I bet the way I

988
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 1: bet your mother's a conservative? Are you a conservative? Peggy? Respect?

989
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:25,760
Speaker 1: You don't listen to him. He doesn't even know your birthday.

990
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 1: He's not selling your book. I am. Tell me, in

991
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: some respects I am a conservative? Yeah, okay, yeah, and

992
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 1: some respects I'm not listen to me, Sean. Yes, there

993
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 1: is no hate. There is no hatred in my book.

994
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 1: My book is kind of a feel good book. It's humorous,

995
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 1: and it has nineteen stories in it that we can

996
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 1: all relate to. If you have a mother, you can

997
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:54,720
Speaker 1: relate to my stories. You can read my stories and say, hey,

998
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: my mother was like that. Um, well you know I do.

999
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 1: I lost my parents, my father six months in my

1000
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 1: twenty third year at Fox, six months after I started there. Um,

1001
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 1: there's hardly a day that I don't think about him. Um,

1002
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 1: you know, and my mother book. Oh but I was

1003
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 1: an incorrigible child. Was Mike an incorrigible child? No? No,

1004
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: he really wasn't. He was a rule follower. He was

1005
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 1: we wouldn't have been friends. We wouldn't not have been friends.

1006
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have allowed him to play with anybody like you. No,

1007
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 1: you would listen. There were a lot of There are

1008
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 1: a lot of kids that weren't allowed to play with me.

1009
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 1: And um, I don't know why I was sold. My

1010
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 1: mother would say, don't leave that house. You And my mom,

1011
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 1: by the way, was a prison guard. Just so you know,

1012
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 1: she was too, a pretty tough lady. But I'd look

1013
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 1: at her and say, you can't stop me, and I'd

1014
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 1: walk out. It's horrible how I treated, how I was,

1015
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 1: and I don't know why I was like one, Sean,

1016
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 1: let me just explain what's happened, all right, This is

1017
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 1: the power of my mother. From it you be trapped

1018
00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 1: in crosstown traffic. She's got you to veal that you

1019
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 1: fell off a roof, became a conservative, you're sharing, you're

1020
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 1: sharing secrets in your life. She literally got you on

1021
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: the couch over itself phone from an suv. A lot

1022
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: of people have been saying for years, I need to

1023
00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 1: be on a couch. So yeah, maybe I'll just call

1024
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 1: your mom once a week and we'll have conversations with her. Remember,

1025
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 1: David Letterman used to put his mom on all the time. Sure,

1026
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 1: your mother sounds a lot like my mother. I think

1027
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 1: my mother could have been a prison guard if she

1028
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 1: wanted to be. But as it was, she was a

1029
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 1: homemaker and raised two children. But she had the wherewithal

1030
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 1: to control the circumstances around her. She knew how to

1031
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 1: make decisions. She could be a little bossy. Was your

1032
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 1: mother a little bossy? Oh? S try to be. But

1033
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 1: here's the thing. The wonderful thing about my parents is

1034
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 1: and she wore many sixteen hours chefs, I mean, and

1035
00:58:56,400 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 1: they did it for their kids. They literally no new cars.

1036
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 1: The first new car I think they got was in

1037
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 1: you know, I was in ninth grade. No vacations, private

1038
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 1: schools for their kids. And I owed them more than

1039
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 1: I gave. I'm gonna be blunt, you know, if I'm

1040
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 1: gonna be truthful. And but in the end, you know,

1041
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 1: I realized they were wonderful people, just amazed far better

1042
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 1: than I could ever be. You know. That's the interesting

1043
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:28,280
Speaker 1: thing about my book, which by the way, is called

1044
00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 1: about my Mother. By the way, you do you like

1045
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 1: what did Mike tell you to say it? Every thirty seconds?

1046
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: I mean, no, no, no, I won't. This is the

1047
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 1: first time I've said it. Listen, Sean, do you have account?

1048
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 1: Pull up account. I'm going to talk to you about

1049
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 1: your mother. Okay, I'm listening. Did your mother have any obsessions?

1050
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 1: Was she crazy nuts about anything? Like baseball? My mother

1051
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 1: was crazy about baseball. She embarrassed me every day of baseball. Now.

1052
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,000
Speaker 1: She actually used to be a big crowcheer and she'd

1053
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 1: make me these hideous, ugly sweaters and give him to

1054
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, Mom, I'm not wearing that thing anywhere. It's

1055
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 1: so mean and um. But she was. She loved it,

1056
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 1: was good at it. You know, I'm i am ruining

1057
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 1: my career here. Mike's the greatest son in the world,

1058
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Speaker 1: and I'm horrible, but I've got to run. Mike Roe.

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Speaker 1: We love you. Thank you, Peggy. You are a delightful,

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Speaker 1: wonderful woman. Made me laugh all day about my mother.

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Speaker 1: True stories, horse crazy daughter or baseball obsessed mom? Memoir,

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Speaker 1: Amazon dot com, Hannity dot Com, bookstores, anywhere. Mike. I

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Speaker 1: need to see you soon. I'd love to do dirty

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Speaker 1: jobs with you. Careful what you wish for, brother, and

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Speaker 1: I'm next time we do it in person. You you

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Speaker 1: just by the way, what it's been decided my mother

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Speaker 1: is it's my mom is now America's grandmother. Thanks to you. Congratulations. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well I remember I was the incorrigible one. Good luck,

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Speaker 1: she's gonna have a lot of trouble raining me in.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, guys. Good to talk to you. Peggy. God

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Speaker 1: bless you. You're you're a wonderful woman with a great heart.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Thank you. This was fun and good

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Speaker 1: luck and a future. That's the questions President, if I

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Speaker 1: may ask question, are you worried? That's enough? That's this president?

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Speaker 1: That ask one of the other folks that's said enough

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Speaker 1: for me, ma'am, I'm this president. That's enough, This president,

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Speaker 1: one of the are you that's enough? Put down the mic?

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Speaker 1: This president? Are you worried about indictments coming down in

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Speaker 1: this investiment? Mister president, I'll tell you what. CNN should

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Speaker 1: be ashamed of itself having you working for them. You

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Speaker 1: are a rude, terrible person. You shouldn't be working for CNN. Please,

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Speaker 1: thank you, mister President. I'm not I'm not responding. I'm responding.

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Speaker 1: Excuse me, I'm not responding to you. I'm talking to

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Speaker 1: this gentleman. Will you please sit down? Would you excuse me?

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Speaker 1: Excuse me? Would you please sit down? Please go to

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Speaker 1: CNN's argument is very straightforward that the First Amendment is

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Speaker 1: meant for the press to be able to act on

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Speaker 1: behalf of the American people and the public in getting information.

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Speaker 1: And here when the White House revoked mister our cost

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Speaker 1: is press pass, it's clear was based on the content

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Speaker 1: of his reporting, the fact that he was asking tough

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Speaker 1: questions and has been doing that. The President Trump and

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01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 1: the White House has repeatedly a challenge and attacked CNN

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Speaker 1: and mister Acosta, and it's really a classic First Amendment viewpoint,

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Speaker 1: content based discrimination against speech. And we can't have the

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Speaker 1: White House or government officials arbitrarily tossing people out of

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Speaker 1: the White House or other government facilities just because they

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Speaker 1: don't like what they're saying or what they're reporting. That's

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Speaker 1: what happened here that violates the First Amendment. CNN tried

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Speaker 1: to work this out, requested that the past be restored.

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Speaker 1: Mister Acosta was denied a day pass in France, even

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Speaker 1: though the French government allowed he would have allowed him

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Speaker 1: to go cover President Trump's appearance at a cemetery, but

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Speaker 1: the White House has basically just been ignoring these requests,

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Speaker 1: so we really had no choice but to sue. We

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Speaker 1: didn't want to have to go to court. We wanted

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Speaker 1: to just report the news. Mister a Costa wants to

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Speaker 1: report the news. CNN wants to report the news. So

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Speaker 1: that's what the courts are or the First Amendment and

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Speaker 1: the Fifth Amendment arguments to do process or comings are

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Speaker 1: very strong. We're asking for emergency relief because every day

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Speaker 1: that this pass has been revoked is a First Amendment

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Speaker 1: violation and it's irruptable harm in the words to the law.

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Speaker 1: The president's tone, president's tone towards the press obviously is

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Speaker 1: not helpful at times, and I think that that's plain

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Speaker 1: to see. There are some fears up on Capitol Hill,

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Speaker 1: and we understand some in the White House that a

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Speaker 1: Democratic wave is coming and can sweep the Republicans out

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Speaker 1: of power in the House, and that could potentially lead

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Speaker 1: to impeachment proceedings that the Democrats could bring forward. What

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Speaker 1: is the president's thinking on that? What is your thinking

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Speaker 1: on that? Understand how wall could be different than border security, Sarah,

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01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 1: order security can actually mean agents, it could be more fencing.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't necessarily mean a physical and that's part of

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Speaker 1: the negotiation that we expect Congress to have. Democrats are

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Speaker 1: saying that they may not be in favor of this

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Speaker 1: kind of deal, but they say thanks, but no, thanks

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Speaker 1: for a wall. Jim. I'm not negotiating with him, and

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Speaker 1: to let Congress take care of that. But we're witnessing

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Speaker 1: right now is just this erosion of our freedoms. In

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Speaker 1: terms of covering the president of the United States. I

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Speaker 1: think that there are moments when this president is just

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Speaker 1: really sensitive to criticism and he lashes out in this

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Speaker 1: fashion that is just a strange and unpresidential thing to do,

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Speaker 1: to be throwing roles of paper, towels of people. The

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Speaker 1: last three news conferences, Wolf, all of the questions to

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Speaker 1: the American news media have been handled by conservative press,

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Speaker 1: and I think, Wolf, there's no other way to describe it.

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Speaker 1: But the fix is in always let me ask you

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Speaker 1: a question, hope to the world, Jim, for people to

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01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 1: say him, do you believe to this country, Jim? And

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Speaker 1: they're not always going to be Jim? Do you believe

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Speaker 1: it is going to be highly skilled? They're not, Jim, Jim, Jim.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate your speech. I think we saw the president's

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Speaker 1: true colors today, and I'm not sure they were red,

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01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 1: white and blue. Seeing it all right, News round Up,

1147
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 1: Information overload. It's only a all little portion of Jim

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Speaker 1: Acosta is phony moments with the President. There's a great

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Speaker 1: column today by Law and Crime. It's a great website

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01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:13,440
Speaker 1: if you want to follow legal issues in the news,

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01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 1: and it is a sister website to Dan Abrams Mediaite,

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01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 1: and it's really good. There's a great coverage. I don't

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01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 1: always agree with it, but it's you get some really

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01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 1: good information. There's a great column. I don't know who

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Speaker 1: wrote it today, but it was really well done. And

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01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 1: their claiming claiming that the constitutional rights of Jim Acosta

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Speaker 1: and CNN I've been violated here when a costa, how

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Speaker 1: many times does a president need to say to one

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Speaker 1: reporter when he has other reporters that want to ask questions,

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Speaker 1: that's enough? And when a White House aide attempted to

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Speaker 1: take the microphone to give it to another reporter, after

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Speaker 1: the president says ten times that's enough, he didn't relinquish

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Speaker 1: the microphone. Now, what's great about this article is, you

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Speaker 1: know CNN's claim what we a costa just asked a

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01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 1: question about one of the president's statements during the mid term,

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Speaker 1: as long Crime pointed out, that's false. A cost that

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Speaker 1: did not simply ask a question, He made a statement.

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Speaker 1: He said, I want to challenge you, he's the president,

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Speaker 1: on one of the statements you made in the tail

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Speaker 1: end of the campaign, and he cited the president's characterization

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Speaker 1: of a migrant caravan as an invasion. Well, if they

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Speaker 1: make it to the border and what happened on the

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Speaker 1: Mexican southern border happened here, then that would be accurate.

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Speaker 1: And the president want obviously wanted to get ahead of

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Speaker 1: it or the potential caravan becoming an invasion or some

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Speaker 1: type of conflict. Innocent people could get hurt. It would

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Speaker 1: be horrible. Anyway, as you know, mister President, the caravan

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Speaker 1: was not an invasion. It's a group of migrants moving

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Speaker 1: up from Central America towards the border of the US well,

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Speaker 1: with the stated goal of walking across our borders illegally.

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Speaker 1: Why did you characterize it as such? Do you think

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Speaker 1: you have demonized immigrants in this election? And then it

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Speaker 1: goes on from there. The President did respond to a Costa. Now,

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Speaker 1: by the way, a Costa and CNN, they have an

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Speaker 1: opportunity to send anybody there. Nobody shut them out completely.

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Speaker 1: So the President responded regarding the characterization, he says, because

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Speaker 1: I do consider it an invasion, You and I have

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Speaker 1: a different opinion, and you know, and from there it

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Speaker 1: just disintegrated. And at this point the White House is

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Speaker 1: rightly saying and I think they're right in their characterization

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Speaker 1: of this. Of course, the White House correspondence people, they

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Speaker 1: love it more grandstanding from CNN. Now CNN claims that

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Speaker 1: they are news. It's almost every second, every hour, every minute,

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Speaker 1: every day bashing the president, and they have their own

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Speaker 1: issues of credibility, everything from racist on down. Anyway, here

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Speaker 1: to weigh in on this is Joe Concho. He's a

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Speaker 1: media reporter, columnist for The Hill. He actually does his

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Speaker 1: own online TV show. Now, congratulations to you for that.

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Speaker 1: What's You're taken? I'm pretty interested where you go with this. Well, Sean,

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Speaker 1: I think the lawsuit is silly and it's a grab

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01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 1: for attention while you know, making a cost in CNN.

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Speaker 1: The victim, which they're both exceptionally accomplished at CNN, as

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Speaker 1: you said, can still report from the White House, just

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Speaker 1: not a Costa. When you break the rules, there has

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01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 1: to become there has to come accountability. And the bottom

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Speaker 1: line is it's CNN has nearly fifty other press credentials,

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Speaker 1: white House press credentials, so they're certainly not locked out right.

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Speaker 1: And look a Costa, as you said, doesn't want to

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Speaker 1: report the news. As we heard in that sound bite

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Speaker 1: just a little bit earlier, he wants to opine, he

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Speaker 1: wants to share his feelings. He wants to act like

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Speaker 1: a forty seven year old version of the captain of

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Speaker 1: the debate team. And since when is it a first Amendment,

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Speaker 1: by the way, to attend press briefings, Because that means

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Speaker 1: because I don't have a hard pass to the White House,

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Speaker 1: I'm a media reporter, So I mean I get to go.

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Speaker 1: You get to go, the guy in the grease truck

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01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:52,439
Speaker 1: outside gets to go, My local librarian gets to go.

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Speaker 1: Because you're gonna need a bigger boat if everybody gets

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Speaker 1: to go there and ask questions of the Press secretary

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Speaker 1: or the president. And the bottom line is, if this

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Speaker 1: is kind of a move to put CNN and a

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Speaker 1: cost of front and center, so we're talking about it,

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01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 1: so it drives ratings, it ain't working because that network

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01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:09,879
Speaker 1: has lost viewers. And you compare it to October twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 1: October twenty and eighteen, remember October two and eighteen had

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Speaker 1: the Cavanaugh hearings, which was a ratings strugger for a

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Speaker 1: lot of people. They lost viewers by nearly ten percent.

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Speaker 1: They're getting beat And this isn't a joke. I'm not

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01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:22,320
Speaker 1: being snarky. I'm just a guy who's like reporting sports scores.

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Speaker 1: They're getting beat in total viewers by the Hallmark Channel,

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01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:27,800
Speaker 1: which is really hard to do. I don't care what

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Speaker 1: they do over there. And in all seriousness, they they

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Speaker 1: have They claim that they are journalists, they claim they

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Speaker 1: don't have They actually say they don't have opinion shows,

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Speaker 1: and like Don Lemon's an anchor, and Chris Cuomo's an anchor,

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Speaker 1: and Anderson Cooper's an anchor, and then all the years

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01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:44,760
Speaker 1: opinion from those three guys just own it, you know.

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01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 1: And it's funny because people all the time that will say, well,

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Speaker 1: you're not a journalist, I say, I don't claim to be,

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01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 1: but I do claim to be a talk show host.

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01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 1: And I can play for you right that. I can

1243
01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:00,719
Speaker 1: literally go on the archives radio and TV and play,

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01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:05,720
Speaker 1: hours and hours and hours of coverage over the years

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01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:11,679
Speaker 1: of me doing straight reporting on important news stories, no opinion,

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01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 1: straight reporting, be it about a war or a hurricane,

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01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:19,240
Speaker 1: all sorts of issues right. Also as a talk show host,

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Speaker 1: opinions most that's why people are tuned into you. Okay,

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01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 1: but but wait a minute, I would argue that we

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01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:29,760
Speaker 1: do investigated reporting Obama, his radical associations, his record after

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01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:33,640
Speaker 1: eight years that nobody else talks about more recently with

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01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 1: the Deep States. So we do investigated reporting. Sometimes we

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01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 1: do straight up reporting. We absolutely do opinion, with me

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01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:44,920
Speaker 1: telling everybody I'm a conservative. You're like a newspaper. I'm

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Speaker 1: the whole newspaper. They're supposed to be the news. I'm

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01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:48,880
Speaker 1: a sports in my opinion, which I used to be

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Speaker 1: a sports commiss Do you ever need anybody to talk

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01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 1: about this? No, I can never win with you. I

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01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:55,520
Speaker 1: just you know you always there's always something I can't please. Everybody.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, anyway. It looked the President took sixty eight

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01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:01,840
Speaker 1: questions during that press conference last week. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: a lot from thirty five reporters. And I'm not very

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Speaker 1: get at math. I believe if you divide sixty if

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Speaker 1: by thirty five, it comes to about two per reporter.

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Speaker 1: And Jim Acosta tried to ask four different questions after

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Speaker 1: as you said, said I want to challenge you, then

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Speaker 1: went into a debate, then gave a lecture on what

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Speaker 1: an invasion is and what isn't and after two questions,

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Speaker 1: every other reporter was says, okay, Well that's the way

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Speaker 1: it's always been. When you go through Reagan, Clinton, Bush,

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Speaker 1: Obama doesn't matter. You basically get one question, one follow

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Speaker 1: up maybe and that's it. A Costa after four questions,

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01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:31,800
Speaker 1: doesn't give up the microphone the way my three year

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Speaker 1: old doesn't give up a lollipop when it's time to

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Speaker 1: go to bed. So how could anybody defend him at

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Speaker 1: this point? And all I ask, and it's not going

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Speaker 1: to happen, but I'll throw it out there anyway. It

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Speaker 1: just takes one major White House correspondent, just one to say, look, Jim,

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01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 1: what you're doing is hijacking these press brief things. You've

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Speaker 1: been doing it for two years. There are some serious

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Speaker 1: reporters in this room, like John Roberts from Fox or

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01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 1: Jeff Mason from Reuters, to John Carl from ABC, people

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Speaker 1: trying to get answers to inform the American people, and

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01:11:57,320 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 1: you're making it about yourself every time so you can

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Speaker 1: go viral and exprand your own brand. Please stop. We

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Speaker 1: don't appreciate maybe the way the president's talking about us. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's fine, but we also don't appreciate the way that

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Speaker 1: you're making this about yourself. If one reporter did that

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Speaker 1: within that room, I think you'd hear a whole different narrative.

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Speaker 1: But the high mentality and the fear of reprisal probably

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Speaker 1: from their employer and from others in the industry, you're

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Speaker 1: not going to see anybody do that, but hey, one

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Speaker 1: could ask, you know, And it's such a good point.

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Speaker 1: And I think Long Crime made a great point on

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01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 1: this too. If a cost is reporting with the real

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Speaker 1: reasons Trump, you know, he wouldn't have called on him

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Speaker 1: in the first place. And by the way he has

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01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 1: been repeatedly m rude to Sarah Sanders, the President was

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Speaker 1: dead on accurate about all of that lockout. You can

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01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:52,559
Speaker 1: put you in a great mood on a on a Friday.

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Speaker 1: We need that, all right. By the way, Vet's Day

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Speaker 1: is Sunday, it's the eleventh. Then we celebrated a lot

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01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:58,679
Speaker 1: of you would be off on Monday of a long weekend.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I will be off on working tonight

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01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:03,559
Speaker 1: on Hannity. I will be there nine pm. Obviously with

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01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:07,200
Speaker 1: all of these Shenanigans laws being broken all over the place,

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01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 1: and Broward and Palm Beach in Florida, and how do

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01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 1: you go from sixty thousand votes to fifteen thousand? Is

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01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:17,120
Speaker 1: there not one Republican vote that they're finding? Only find

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Speaker 1: Democratic votes? First, I want to introduce you. They're not

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Speaker 1: only an advertiser in this program. I'm friends with these guys.

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Speaker 1: Evan Hayper's with us. He's the CEO of Black Riflecoffee

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Speaker 1: dot com slash Hannity. Not only is it the best

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01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:31,720
Speaker 1: coffee company, as I tell you in these ads, it

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01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:35,000
Speaker 1: really is. You have every single level of strength and

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01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:38,840
Speaker 1: flavor that you would ever want. The story behind how

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Speaker 1: they built this company is amazing. They hire vets, they

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Speaker 1: hire first responders, they donate to vets, they donate to

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Speaker 1: first responders, And on this Veterans Day weekend, I wanted

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Speaker 1: as just say a thank you, Evan, welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the program, and be you know what, why support these

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01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:01,799
Speaker 1: liberal companies that don't share of it's nuts. Your company's

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01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:04,639
Speaker 1: grown by leaps and bounds. Yeah. Well, first and foremost,

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01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:07,599
Speaker 1: thank you Sean for having us back. Definitely, I can't

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01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:10,519
Speaker 1: thank you enough. And it's wonderful to hear your voice

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Speaker 1: and be on the show again. So Black Rifle Coffee

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Speaker 1: we're growing recent bounds. We opened up a new roasting

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Speaker 1: facility just outside of Nashville in Coffee County. One of

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Speaker 1: the big reasons was because it's Coffee County and because

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Speaker 1: we had a high number of veteran and civil service

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Speaker 1: members out there that we could employ. We've got a

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Speaker 1: new facility in San Antonio, Texas, so we expanded to

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Speaker 1: Military Town, USA, and we still got a roaster out

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Speaker 1: in Utah. So we're Utah, Tennessee, and San Antonio and

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Speaker 1: soon we're gonna have Black Rifle Coffees for people to

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Speaker 1: walk in and drink a cup of coffee in both

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Speaker 1: the Tennessee and Texas. So we're expanding and moving fast.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's pretty amazing. I mean, is this something that's

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01:14:55,560 --> 01:15:00,439
Speaker 1: going to maybe build into Black Rifle Coffee where we

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01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:03,640
Speaker 1: used to see a Starbucks. I would love that. I

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01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 1: tell you what, that's the plan. Sean that's That's exactly

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Speaker 1: what we want to do, is we want to What

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01:15:09,240 --> 01:15:11,640
Speaker 1: I tell people is we want to give them an

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Speaker 1: opportunity to vote with their dollar and vote for the

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01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:18,920
Speaker 1: companies that support what they believe in. And it's in

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Speaker 1: our mission statement. You know, we like to we we

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01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:25,600
Speaker 1: love to serve coffee and content to people that love America.

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Speaker 1: We're unashamed in our service and our our pride and country.

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Speaker 1: And I think that that there are a lot of

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Speaker 1: businesses out there that really they get out there and

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01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:38,639
Speaker 1: they don't like America at the end of the day. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know. And that's the difference between Black Rifle Coffee

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01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:48,000
Speaker 1: and them is we're miles apart typically on the political spectrum.

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Speaker 1: And two, we really do put our money where our

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Speaker 1: mouth is. It's what I say is it's not pr

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01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:56,599
Speaker 1: or's who we are. So we get out We've got

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Speaker 1: above a fifty percent higher rate for veterans. We just

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Speaker 1: line the new initiative with the Pentagon Federal Credit Union

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Speaker 1: to help fund veteran entrepreneurs. So the Veteran Entrepreneur Investment

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Speaker 1: Program where we are marked two hundred thousand dollars to

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Speaker 1: be dibbied out for veterans in about two or twenty

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Speaker 1: thousand to fifty thousand dollars investment opportunities for them. So

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Speaker 1: we're trying to put our money where our mouth is

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Speaker 1: every day, protect the community, create opportunities for those that

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Speaker 1: have served, and promote America. The thing is, I love

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Speaker 1: how this company was started too, because you had guys

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Speaker 1: overseas and they couldn't get a good cup of coffee,

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Speaker 1: and didn't they didn't you all start ordering different blends

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Speaker 1: coffee beans that sound like lend of for a second

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Speaker 1: coffee coffee beans, and then you made you came up

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Speaker 1: with your own blend. You did it yourselves. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's the amazing. And you did it out of a

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Speaker 1: need and a desire for the best cup of coffee,

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Speaker 1: which I love every day and I can't live without.

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Speaker 1: Exactly right, I started roasting coffee because I couldn't get

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Speaker 1: a great cup of coffee and I was deploying back

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Speaker 1: and forth do I rack at the time, and I

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Speaker 1: was roasting coffee at home to take big duffle bags

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Speaker 1: of coffee overseas with me to not only drink, but

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Speaker 1: then give to the guys that I was working with.

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Speaker 1: And it caught on to the point where I was

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Speaker 1: giving away a lot of coffee to my friends and family,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of people ask me, well, where did

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Speaker 1: you come up with the name black Rifle Coffee? And

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01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:33,400
Speaker 1: I had a little one pound roaster on the back

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Speaker 1: tailgate of my pickup while I was working for the

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Speaker 1: CIA at the time, and I had my service rifle

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Speaker 1: next to it, which was a black black rifle and

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Speaker 1: a little one pound roaster, and I was roasting coffee

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Speaker 1: for everybody in the course that I was teaching. One

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Speaker 1: of the guys came up and was like, man, you

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Speaker 1: should have a coffee company, And I said, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: could call it, you know, Black Rifle Coffee Company. But

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Speaker 1: it's quite literally in respect to our service rifle. It's

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Speaker 1: a piece of I seving equipment and protected me and

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Speaker 1: the other founders of the company for over a decade

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Speaker 1: where we served and we should be proud of that. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think the fact that you hire vets, first responders,

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Speaker 1: you created the best product on the market that always helps.

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Speaker 1: That you give back so much to vets and first

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Speaker 1: responders and those causes is amazing. Thanks for being a

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Speaker 1: part of the show. Look, it's black Riflecoffee dot Com,

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01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 1: slash Hannity, you get a first fifteen percent discount. You

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01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:28,760
Speaker 1: guys do have the coolest videos of anybody on the web,

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01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 1: but I've got to warn you they're rated. Are maybe yeah, yeah,

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01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:37,439
Speaker 1: some of them. Show me one that's not all right,

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01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 1: my friend, say hi to everybody for me. Eight hundred

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01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:42,639
Speaker 1: nine four one sewn is our number. Paul of vellows

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Speaker 1: with us too. He's the chief Master Sergeant, is the

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Speaker 1: founder executive director of Operation Restored Warrior, and he's here

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01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:53,040
Speaker 1: to talk about a need for awareness of our vets

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Speaker 1: that are coming home. They're over two hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: thousand facing PTSD and the suicide rate among that's coming

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Speaker 1: back has been astronomical. Off the hook. I can't tell

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Speaker 1: you how many times that I would hear from anybody

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01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:09,880
Speaker 1: or somebody even an acquaintance of somebody, and they say

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Speaker 1: that somebody's struggling, they're they're about to kill themselves. And

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01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:16,679
Speaker 1: I usually call my friend Oliver North and Ali gets

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01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:18,960
Speaker 1: on the phone. Will spend hours and hours with people.

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Speaker 1: We work to find a program that works for them.

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Speaker 1: And anyway, Master Sergeant, Chief Master Sergeant Paulavell, thank you

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Speaker 1: sir for being with us. Hi Sean, thanks for having me. Well,

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Speaker 1: tell me exactly what what you guys are doing and

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Speaker 1: how you helping these guys out. I mean, the bottom line,

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Speaker 1: the answers, we've over deployed them. It's just a fact. Yes, yes, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Our organization, Operation Restored Warrior, we've been we've been around

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Speaker 1: now for ten years and we've helped hundreds and hundreds

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Speaker 1: of veterans coming back from combat to address the issues

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Speaker 1: of combat stress, post traumatic stress US uh uh. And

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Speaker 1: we do it in five days. We deal with some

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Speaker 1: of the most stressed out guys that have suicide ideation

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Speaker 1: and we address this in a five day program that

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Speaker 1: I developed. And we've got literally every single warrior who

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Speaker 1: comes through our program, doesn't matter whether you're any one

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Speaker 1: or you're a three star general, which we've had all

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Speaker 1: of those guys come through. Um, they get restoration in

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Speaker 1: the five day program. That's a pretty amazing thing. Now,

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01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:36,599
Speaker 1: do you have enough space? Do you have enough people

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Speaker 1: involved in this to for the demand that is out there,

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Speaker 1: which is greater than we ever thought it could be.

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Speaker 1: Because I know, I know the VA is changing, and

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Speaker 1: I know there have been changes, and I know there

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01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:50,520
Speaker 1: are a lot of private organizations, you know, Rivers for Recovery,

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Speaker 1: building homes for heroes, the Freedom Alliance. There's a ton

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01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:57,840
Speaker 1: of great, great groups out there, but as everybody getting

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01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:01,280
Speaker 1: the help they need, no, no, they're not. I mean

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Speaker 1: the number is overwhelming. We have been doing this for

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Speaker 1: ten years and we don't even have our own home.

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01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:12,360
Speaker 1: We through the blessing of dear friends and allies, we

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01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:16,200
Speaker 1: use various properties around the country and we've got a

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01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:18,880
Speaker 1: waiting list of guys getting in effect. What we did,

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Speaker 1: Sean is we took the five day program and literally

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01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:25,320
Speaker 1: had been praying about this, like how do we scale

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Speaker 1: what we're doing so that we can bring this twenty

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Speaker 1: two plus a day of suicides down to zero? And

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01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:36,719
Speaker 1: I think we found the answer, and earlier this year

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Speaker 1: I started working with my team on taking our five

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Speaker 1: day and contensing it to a two day and engaging

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Speaker 1: our alumni and we have over a thousand alumni now

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Speaker 1: around the country from all the various services that have

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Speaker 1: been deployed in multiple operations, and to scale this out

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Speaker 1: there so that we can start to address in their

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Speaker 1: communities because we have these groups all over the United

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Speaker 1: States now to be able to address this problem of

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Speaker 1: twenty two plus a day, and I mean it's crazy.

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Speaker 1: This is not going away. It's been. It just keeps

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Speaker 1: ramping because of the over deployment. We do we have enough,

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Speaker 1: is there is the information to get the help out

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Speaker 1: there to all these guys. I mean, really, the Armed

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Speaker 1: Services needs to be sending every single guy that's served,

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Speaker 1: especially these multiple deployments. They've got to be communicating with

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Speaker 1: them and tell them, hey, if you ever need help,

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01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:30,360
Speaker 1: this is what you do. If you ever need help,

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01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:33,320
Speaker 1: They've got to know that that help is out there,

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01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:35,880
Speaker 1: because if they reach out, they're going to get the help.

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01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 1: I've met people that have gone through programs and they

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01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:41,559
Speaker 1: come back on the other side different people, and they're

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01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 1: able to you know, it's hard to ask people to

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01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:46,240
Speaker 1: go to war, going to war zone and it triggers,

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01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:51,040
Speaker 1: you know, a defense mechanism and an adrenaline rush and

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01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:53,760
Speaker 1: an energy that you're not going to experience back in

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01:22:53,800 --> 01:22:56,439
Speaker 1: real life. You come home and it's like that just

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01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:59,920
Speaker 1: doesn't shut off automatically. You know, you don't have an

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01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:04,400
Speaker 1: on off switch. Some people maybe have better coping mechanisms

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01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:07,440
Speaker 1: than others. This isn't about weakness it's about their warriors,

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01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:10,320
Speaker 1: and now you're asking them to, you know, to just

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01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:12,200
Speaker 1: shut that side of them off. It's a hard thing

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01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:16,400
Speaker 1: to do, it absolutely is. And we've had some of

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Speaker 1: the most remarkable warriors of this nation has ever produced

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01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:22,680
Speaker 1: come through our program, Sean, and a lot of the

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01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:24,599
Speaker 1: guys they don't want to ask for help, you know,

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01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:27,040
Speaker 1: because so much of what they've been asked to do,

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01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:29,640
Speaker 1: they are the help, right, they don't, they don't they

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01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:31,960
Speaker 1: don't go in, you know, they're the guys that have

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01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:34,840
Speaker 1: to do these operations. So they don't ask for help.

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01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:37,000
Speaker 1: And you know, we still have a stigma out there

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Speaker 1: that they think that that's a weakness and the focus

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01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:43,240
Speaker 1: of our program. Our program, and one of the reasons

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01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:46,960
Speaker 1: it's so successful is that there's a component component, not

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Speaker 1: only in the emotional physiologic side, but there's a there's

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01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:53,799
Speaker 1: a spiritual component. We're both spiritual and physical and physical,

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01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 1: and if you don't address one without the other, then

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01:23:56,479 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 1: you're going to have an incomplete healing. And so we

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01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 1: address the spiritual component because you know, just look look

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01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:07,440
Speaker 1: at history. Look biblically, right, the progenitor of all warfare

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01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:11,439
Speaker 1: is spiritual and it gets manifested into the kinetic. If

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01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:15,080
Speaker 1: you don't address the spiritual issues that's assaulting our men

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01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 1: and women, then you're not going to get a complete healing.

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01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:21,000
Speaker 1: You're just going to get anesthetizing. You're going to get

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01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:23,800
Speaker 1: partial healing, but it's not going to be complete. And

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Speaker 1: we have found that by addressing those issues, these folks

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Speaker 1: are getting restored. Operation Restored Warrior dot org is your website.

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Speaker 1: Operation Restored Warrior dot org. Paul, thank you for being

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Speaker 1: with us. I hope people can help your organization out.

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Speaker 1: We'll put it up on hannity dot com