WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Needing Answers 0:00:04.480 --> 0:00:07.000 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.040 --> 0:00:19.159 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 0:00:19.200 --> 0:00:22.880 a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:23.040 --> 0:00:27.200 Ready for a break? Yeah, And so much for that. 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:32.600 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:33.400 --> 0:00:38.879 with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:42.680 It is Wednesday, January fifteenth, twenty nineteen, Season fifteen, episode 0:00:42.760 --> 0:00:45.640 number one eleven. Welcome to another edition of The Break. 0:00:45.680 --> 0:00:48.120 We are live from the s WBC Mortgage studios at 0:00:48.120 --> 0:00:51.279 the Star and lots of things breaking this morning. Things 0:00:51.280 --> 0:00:53.159 We got to talk about Hall of Fame announcements. A 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:55.520 couple of guys have gotten into the Hall of Fame, 0:00:55.600 --> 0:00:58.000 one glaring omission. We'll talk about that a little bit. 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:00.360 We'll also talk a little bit about the coach staff, 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:03.480 a few guys that have been reported to be added 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:05.920 to this team, although there's been no official report by 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:07.760 the team, but we'll talk about some of those names, 0:01:08.400 --> 0:01:11.319 and then we'll finish the process of what we were 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:13.280 doing a few weeks ago when we were talking about 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:16.760 the offensive players who are free agents and whether you 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:18.640 want to see them come back. We're now going to 0:01:18.680 --> 0:01:20.319 flip over the defensive side of the ball. We'll go 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:22.480 through some of those names for you guys, give you 0:01:22.520 --> 0:01:24.399 some perspective on what's going to be happening here in 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:28.080 free agency. How's everybody filling day? I feel great, great, 0:01:28.160 --> 0:01:31.039 I know you're doing. Congratulations Dave. I've said before, but 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:33.440 I'm gonna say it on the air. Congratulations to you 0:01:33.720 --> 0:01:39.400 and Yo Tigers. Thank you National champion. David Hellman appreciate it. 0:01:39.640 --> 0:01:41.720 If we could get the intro changed to that, that 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:44.360 would be cool. But nobody wants to listen to me 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:46.760 talk about LSU. We can talk about You're in the 0:01:46.800 --> 0:01:50.000 midst of all of that happening. Somehow I found myself 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:55.280 in the Tigers Instagram page and looking over like a 0:01:55.400 --> 0:01:59.720 thousand pictures of just the Tiger. Are you a fan now? Not? 0:02:01.120 --> 0:02:04.000 Poor Tiger got me in just looking at all these 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:08.359 different pictures and comments like the captions, Yeah they're pretty funny. 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:11.320 Good but um, congratulations to you and the Tigers. That 0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:13.760 was a good game, fun watch. And now we go 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:18.520 into almost drought season, probably football, probably Odell just giving 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:22.280 money to Odell hand I was thinking, like, are they 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:28.040 supposed to it was fake money? And winking and it 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:33.600 was fake. That was so uncomfortable like that. That shouldn't 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:36.320 be on camera. Now, how are we doing this? Anyway? 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:40.040 Let's jump in, right, let's jump in. Let's talk a 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:42.239 little bit about the Pro Football Hall of Fame. We 0:02:42.320 --> 0:02:45.359 found out on Sunday, Uh that Jimmy Johnson gets into 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:48.280 the Hall of Fame. To me, very very well deserved 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:50.520 a guy who had two Super Bowls here with the Cowboys. 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:52.920 You can talk to the people in Miami. They may 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:55.400 have a little different opinion, but you can't deny a 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:57.960 guy it gets two back to back Super Bowls deserves 0:02:57.960 --> 0:02:59.440 to be in the Hall of Fame. People in Cleveland 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:02.920 have a different opinion of Bill Belichick. Absolutely, so, yeah, 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:06.760 he's deserving. He ties Landry, I mean, Landry's got two, 0:03:06.800 --> 0:03:10.960 and Parcels has two. Two super bowls should get you 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:12.760 in s rare company. I mean, there's not a lot 0:03:12.800 --> 0:03:14.959 of guys got more than one. Not a lot of 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:17.000 guys have one. It's not a lot of guys certainly 0:03:17.040 --> 0:03:20.600 have not just two super Bowls. But turning around, helping 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:24.720 turn around. Sorry the franchise, you know that one of 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:26.760 you know at three and thirteen team they were one 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:28.840 of fifteen that they turned it around. It made it 0:03:28.919 --> 0:03:31.520 super two Super Bowls. I know it's the Pro Football 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:34.360 Hall of Fame, but like he kicked but at Miami too, 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:37.680 Like he helped you know, the you all that cool stuff. Again, 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:39.720 I know that's not pro football, but he was a 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:43.080 badass every at every level of the sport. Yeah, it's yeah, 0:03:43.120 --> 0:03:45.680 absolutely well deserved. And I guess when you throw in 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:48.000 that perspective, there aren't a lot of coaches that come 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:50.800 from the college rinks. That doesn't happen half success NFL. 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:54.160 Let alone have back to back Super Bowl teams that win. 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:56.320 And by the way, the first year is year the 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:58.720 one and fifteen. So really, you're right, he built it 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:02.200 like they built that, built a roster that competed for 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:04.880 the Super Bowl four straight years and he won two 0:04:04.920 --> 0:04:07.280 of them that were very close the third year without 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:09.520 him and then they wanted the fourth year with Switzer there. 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:12.240 But I mean he helped build that that dynasty there. 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:14.800 And then glad you said that word, because yeah, I 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:18.400 mean it's dwindling into the past. But I mean one 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:21.760 of I don't know how many how many legit dynasties 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:24.040 would you say that there have been in the Super 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:28.440 Bowl era. It's like the Lombardi Packers, the seventies Steelers, 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:32.600 the eighty eighties, forty nine Ers, the nineties Cowboys, and 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:35.000 then the Patriots. That's I mean, that's probably it. Yeah, 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:37.359 And so if you're on that list, then yeah, be 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:39.200 in the Hall of Fame. Yep, no doubt. So I 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:41.880 had this question for you guys. I look at the 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:45.160 fact that it last year when Jerry got into two 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:47.000 years ago I'm sorry, was that two three years ago? 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:49.839 When Jerry got in the seventeen okay whatever, When Jared 0:04:49.880 --> 0:04:51.440 gets in the Hall of Fame, and as a part 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:54.400 of his speech he mentions Jimmy Johnson and rightfully, so 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:57.440 it seems like they've kind of had more of that 0:04:57.520 --> 0:05:00.440 kind of those kind of public Jimmy was there too, 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:03.359 absolutely right um, And they've had more of those types 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:06.840 of public friendly exchanges here in the last several years. 0:05:06.839 --> 0:05:10.480 Do you think this uh puts it or creates an 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:13.000 opportunity now where Jerry puts him into the Ring of Honor? 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:16.240 I would hope so. And I would hope that the 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:22.080 people that monitor comments of you know, posts and stories 0:05:22.080 --> 0:05:25.040 and see where they what well, the people that are 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:27.280 I mean, you can tell where the fans think about this, 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:30.919 and you know, the fans like to like to argue 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:33.440 about anything that happens, like, well, that's cool. Why didn't 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:35.760 this happen? Or didn't this happen? Yeah, I think that 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:38.280 that he should be in the Ring of Honor. Um. 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:40.479 I don't think it's great to have guys in the 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:41.800 Hall of Fame that aren't in the Ring of Honor. 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:43.680 Is going to be close, if ever, since Walls made 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:46.400 it a couple last year in the Pro Football Hall 0:05:46.440 --> 0:05:50.160 of Fame. But you know, it's it's a one man committee. 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:52.440 It always has been. Jerry wants to do it. He can. 0:05:52.560 --> 0:05:55.720 And you know, I was standing right there with him 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:57.960 one time when he made a comment that that I 0:05:58.080 --> 0:05:59.560 turned and looked around. I don't know who was next 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:01.520 to me, but I'm well, he's never getting in, so 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:05.039 hopefully they things have been patched up, and I would 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:07.520 imagine he does. That's the funny thing. I've been here 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:09.800 since twenty thirteen, and I was going to bring up 0:06:09.839 --> 0:06:12.800 the Hall of Fame if you didn't like my experience here, 0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:16.840 is that the enmity there has died down. It seems 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:18.600 like it on the outside of least like they've both 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:21.240 made flattering comments about each other. Jimmy came to his 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:24.200 induction into the Hall of Fame, Jerry talked about him, 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:27.599 and I don't know if they're friends, but it seems 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:32.000 like they're friendly. That's my perception in seven years. And 0:06:32.040 --> 0:06:35.880 so I'm yeah, I'm like, I'm I don't know if 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:37.960 I'm surprised that it hasn't happened, but I don't get 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:40.960 the feeling that there's something preventing it from happening. Yeah, 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:43.760 and so maybe this will be kind of like pushing 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:45.960 the snowball down the hill, and I would expect it 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:48.120 to happen at some point for sure. Let's talk about 0:06:48.120 --> 0:06:51.040 Cliff Harris, another guy that's been waiting a very long time. 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:53.520 He was a guy that was part of I think 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:57.000 the All Decade team in the seventies and now finally 0:06:57.040 --> 0:06:59.480 gets to call to the Hall of Fame. Nick talk 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:00.960 a little bit. Ab I know, for for a lot 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:03.680 of us, we weren't around and didn't necessarily see him 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:05.680 play or you know a lot about his career, But 0:07:05.720 --> 0:07:07.599 tell me why he was a Hall of Fame type player. 0:07:07.680 --> 0:07:09.640 All right, Just for the record, I wasn't around either, 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:20.680 but like, okay, we've got the jokes now this guy, 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:25.320 but you know, a guy, his career is remarkable because 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:28.840 back then in nineteen seventy, um, there was one hundred 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:31.040 and twenty five Ricky free agents that they go to 0:07:31.040 --> 0:07:35.320 training camp. Right now, there's like twenty five and twenty 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:37.480 three of them were defensive backs. So he's a guy 0:07:37.480 --> 0:07:40.600 from Washington Baptist, which is in a small school in Arkansas, 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:42.600 and he's one of the guys and he's got to 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:44.880 make this team and he did. And not only that, 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:48.120 he's ended up. He started that first year. If it's 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:51.600 ten years, they Cowboys only missed the playoffs once, So 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:53.800 that was you know, that wasn't just him. That was 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:56.360 just shows that how great they were in the seventies. 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:58.880 But um, he was always around the ball. I called 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:01.440 him Captain crash It back when safeties really could go 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:03.200 lower the boom. But he was more than that. He 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:07.640 had twenty nine interceptions, I believe sixteen fumble recoveries, so 0:08:07.680 --> 0:08:10.160 that's tied for second. And he's around the ball a lot. 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:12.960 Him and Charlie Waters were great duo there in that 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:16.600 safety position. And you know, he's he was the only 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:19.120 defensive player in the All Decade Team that wasn't in 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:22.560 the Hall of Fame. So on the defensive, on the 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:24.360 defensive side of the ball, I believe there's one on 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:27.880 the offensive. We'll talk about that too, But you know 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:31.080 they've righted that wrong. He's deserving. But you know, it 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:32.880 took a long time to getting the Ring of Honor. Two. 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:35.320 You know, tex Tram didn't put him in for a 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:38.079 long time there in the eighties. He didn't get intil 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:40.920 two thousand and four, I believe, So it took a 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:44.280 while for him. Um, he was always linked with Charlie Waters. 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:46.360 I just mentioned him. They were linked together, but he 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:48.320 was better than Charlie and so it's like, well, you're 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:50.920 putting them both end one end, and they decided, you know, 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:55.160 he was better than Charlie in's certain aspects. Charlie Waters 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:58.320 was great in interceptions too. But I think I think 0:08:58.360 --> 0:09:01.040 Cliff Harris was just a dying and make safety that 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:03.480 could that could do everything you wanted, a great athlete. 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:06.680 And so I'm glad that he's getting in. It's well 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:09.319 deserved for him. Yeah, it's I don't want to take 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:11.520 too much away from these guys that have gotten this 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:14.720 really huge news that they're they're getting into the Hall 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:17.920 of Fame. But the glaring ole mission year, obviously is 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:21.240 Drew pearson uh form of wide receiver, the original eighty 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:25.000 eight of the Cowboys. And the reason why this seems 0:09:25.040 --> 0:09:27.120 weird to me and Nick when I walked in this morning, 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:28.920 I saw you in your office and my first eyes 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:30.240 I don't need to go talk to Nick about this 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:33.320 because I wasn't around to see this to be able 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:35.800 to for myself say no, Drew Pearson is a Hall 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:38.839 of Fame player. I've seen highlights of him, obviously, I've 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:41.280 heard of the hell Mary and and all the different 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:45.120 stories that he's attached to when it comes to Cowboys history. 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:48.640 But what I don't understand is how a guy like him, 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:51.760 who was a you know, a first team member of 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:55.360 the All Decade Team in the seventies, a guy that 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:58.800 has I think three Pro Bowls, three All pros, first 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:02.520 team All pros um and and then a guy like 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:04.600 Harold Carmichael, which, by the way, I don't think it's 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:07.400 a situation where Carmichael doesn't deserve to get in, but 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:10.520 you look at the two careers and you see the 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:13.360 Carmichael never made an All Pro that he was only 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:15.560 a four time pro bowler on one more time was 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:17.959 he a pro bowler? And he was a second team 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:21.160 All Decade player in the seventies, where Pearson was a 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:23.520 first team All Decade player. And it leads me with 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:26.960 the question of why why is there this omission that 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:30.280 continues to happen. There must be something more that I 0:10:30.360 --> 0:10:33.080 just don't know about why he's not getting in the 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:37.160 Hall of Fame. Yeah, that that play right there, Yeah, 0:10:37.200 --> 0:10:40.320 we're watching the catch. This is the hell Mary, obviously, 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:44.040 it's the vikings with the play right before that, you know, 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:47.120 set it up. And I just think, Derek, I think 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:50.160 that to answer your question, I mean, I don't have 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:52.199 the answer. I wish I did. But the thing about 0:10:52.240 --> 0:10:55.280 it is is that when you look at the history 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:57.320 of the Cowboys and you tell the story of these 0:10:57.480 --> 0:11:00.760 iconic moments, he's in all of them. I mean not 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:03.200 all of them, He's in a lot of them. Hell, Mary, 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:04.880 Yeah he caught it. But if you go back and 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:07.439 just think of remember that game Clint Longley came off 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:09.640 the bench and led the Cowboys to a touch Yeah 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:11.679 it was Drew Pearson caught it. I remember the game 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:14.160 Danny White against the Falcons, had those two touchdowns in 0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:18.240 the fourth quarter, and yeah, Pearson caught him both, you know, 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:21.640 I mean Drew Pearson, even Tony dor sais ninety nine 0:11:21.679 --> 0:11:23.559 yard touchdown run, He's down there block and that doesn't 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:25.480 happen if he's not there. He's he's around in all 0:11:25.520 --> 0:11:28.520 these moments, and I just don't understand. Is it is 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:30.800 it yards? Is it stats? Is it the flares? That 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:34.880 is it the dramatic I mean Lynce won. Lynce One's 0:11:34.880 --> 0:11:36.600 in the ring in the Hall of Fame because he 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:38.240 was a Super Bowl MVP. You know, he's got three 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:41.560 hundred and thirty six catches. David LaFell has three hundred 0:11:42.080 --> 0:11:46.720 in ninety or Peerless Price has four hundred catches Mohammed Sanu. 0:11:47.200 --> 0:11:49.520 So it's not just about stats, you know, it's about 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:52.120 great catches. Well, I told you earlier. Well let's put 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:54.200 David Tyreegan. I mean, if we're gonna do that, if 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:57.840 you know so, It's just it's sad because he doesn't 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:00.719 know what criteria. I've got the stats, I've got the 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:04.640 I've got the dramatic plays, I've got the Super Bowl story. 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:07.719 Everything you need except for being in and this is 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:09.960 they could have righted the wrong and they didn't. Yeah, 0:12:10.000 --> 0:12:12.640 and I mean it if it didn't happen this year 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:15.040 where they had a bigger class because of the centennial, 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:17.440 that makes you think it's not gonna happen anytime soon, 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:20.840 which yeah, I can't lay out a better case than that, 0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:22.800 And it just it does make you wonder. You know, 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:27.120 there was the decade long argument about like whether t 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:29.199 O would get in because he was such a jerk. 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:32.560 And I don't mean I Drew Pearson has always been 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:35.040 lovely in the very limited interactions that I've had with him. 0:12:35.080 --> 0:12:36.959 But it makes me think that, like, well, did people 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:39.680 think he's a jerk? Like not like it? Yeah, I've 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:41.760 never heard that, but that's what it makes me think, 0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:44.160 because I can't think of a reason fans didn't like 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:46.280 him on Draft Day, very true put him in the 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:48.040 Hall of Fame just for that speech on it, right, 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:52.080 Like yeah, it's that's a bummer and I'm I'm gonna 0:12:52.080 --> 0:12:53.760 talk out of both sides of my mouth a little bit, 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:56.679 but like it's kind of a bummer. How it's such 0:12:56.720 --> 0:12:59.160 a spectacle now, like getting into the Hall of Fame 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:00.960 because like he was looked like he was in his 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:03.680 kitchen this morning or something like had a whole watch party. 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:08.040 It's like watching a guy not get drafted, his big 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:10.680 spectacle and then he just gets his heart ripped out. 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:13.679 But at the same time, it was so cool how 0:13:13.760 --> 0:13:17.040 Jimmy Johnson found out live on TV. And I got 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:21.079 emotional watching Troy Aikman get emotional and it was lovely. 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:24.360 So it's cool when a guy gets good news. I 0:13:24.360 --> 0:13:26.160 guess it just it sucks to see somebody get their 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:28.840 heart ripped out on TV. You know. The ironic part 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:32.320 of those two receivers is that in nineteen eighty four, 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:36.440 Drew Pearson was, you know, expected to have another great 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:38.760 year for the Cowboys, still a veteran guy. He's played, 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:40.520 you know, ten years, but he was still doing it, 0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:42.800 still playing well, and he gets in a car wreck. 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:47.640 I believe his brother was within the car and passed away. Yeah, 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:50.480 so his brother was in the car, and then he 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:52.280 was hurt to the point where he didn't play again. 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:56.160 So he retired in nineteen eighty four, and the Cowboys 0:13:56.440 --> 0:14:00.680 signed Harold Carmichael just briefly in nineteen eighty four. He 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:03.160 only played a few games. He made one catch or whatever, 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:05.840 and you know that was that was the end of that. 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:07.800 But a long time eagle, right, a long time eagle. 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:09.760 And then he goes and so in that nineteen eighty 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:12.720 four season, it was Carmichael that goes and plays for 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:14.800 the Cowboys due person didn't. And now here they are 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:17.080 kind of being compared against each other. Carmichael has a 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:19.720 lot better stats, but he played longer, he played longer. 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:21.840 But yeah, he's got he's got more stats, more touchdown 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:24.520 yards and catches. But like you said, not not those 0:14:24.640 --> 0:14:27.040 moments of really you know, and when you look at 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:30.240 it from the standpoint of just the recognition All pros, yeah, 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:32.400 and that kind of stuff. I mean, Drew had more 0:14:32.400 --> 0:14:35.680 all he had three more All Pro selections than than 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:38.920 did Carmichael. So it's it sucks. I mean, I don't 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:40.960 know how. I don't know. And I think that frustration 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:43.120 you saw when he's catching and slams his hands down 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:46.840 because he realizes, I mean, if not then went, which 0:14:47.480 --> 0:14:50.640 it's a it's a bummer. I bet he still gets in, 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:54.600 but hopefully it happens while he can still enjoy it, right, 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:56.840 I mean, you know, if it doesn't happen for thirty 0:14:56.880 --> 0:14:59.280 more years then that would be tragic. Well, they do 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:02.680 have the senior commit that still every year presents. I 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:04.760 think it's two or three guys that get in every year. 0:15:04.800 --> 0:15:07.080 And maybe, honestly, this is one of the reasons why 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:08.680 I wanted to bring it up on the show today, 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:11.240 is because a lot of times with these kinds of things, 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:14.240 it takes that ground swell of people saying what is 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:16.840 going on here for there to be enough attention pointed 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:18.840 to it and say, hey, guys, you really need to 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:20.920 right this wrong. And I think that's part of our 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:23.320 responsibility is a part of that too, and say, man, 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:25.280 this guy deserves it, and if he's not getting in, 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:27.840 then people need to speak out about it and say 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:29.680 this is a travesty. He needs to be in. And 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:32.360 you know, one of the we don't we weren't there 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:34.400 watching all these but one of the guys that did 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:37.800 get in Steve Sable and his dad d Sable. You know, 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:40.720 for NFL Films. NFL Films has provided us a lot 0:15:40.760 --> 0:15:42.880 of these moments where we've seen this, So it's not 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:44.840 like you can say, well, you weren't there, I wasn't there. 0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:47.480 I mean, we get a chance to see the highlights 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:49.480 and sometimes they speak for themselves and that's really all 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:52.280 that you have in certain cases. But I mean, he's 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:55.720 got everything you need other than being there. So yeah, 0:15:55.760 --> 0:15:58.040 and again I'm I'm very interested. I think at some 0:15:58.120 --> 0:16:00.880 point this offseason, I'd love to get somebody like Goose Goslind, 0:16:00.880 --> 0:16:03.000 who is a voter and presents a lot of the 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:05.080 guys from Dallas on the show, just to ask him 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:08.640 because there has to be I'm just I'm just believing 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:10.960 there has to be some reason that when they look 0:16:10.960 --> 0:16:13.800 at it objectively, they're coming up and have come up 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:16.360 with over year over year over year that he's not 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:18.480 quite the guy there, and I just went, I'd like 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:20.640 to hear another perspective of why that is, because it 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:24.000 just doesn't seem very apparent to me. Right now. All right, 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:25.920 let's do this. 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But I don't think 0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:01.560 I don't think they announced anything officially at all last year. 0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:03.760 We just kind of go somewhere like, oh, by the way, 0:19:03.760 --> 0:19:05.800 they're here. But I will say this, in years when 0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:08.240 they've had like a like a big turnover, which it 0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:10.320 sounds like it's going to be this year, they have 0:19:10.400 --> 0:19:12.480 announced it. And it seems like they've had like a 0:19:12.480 --> 0:19:14.920 little time with the media where you could kind of 0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:17.080 talk to the guys. But we'll see this was before you, 0:19:17.240 --> 0:19:19.560 I think, say, that's never happened in my time here. 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:22.280 They've turned over the staff a decent bit over the 0:19:22.400 --> 0:19:25.200 last two years. Not this much though, right, No, not 0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:28.800 this much, but I mean, yeah, yeah, coach, but in 0:19:28.880 --> 0:19:32.199 eighteen and seventeen, I mean they've they've turned it over 0:19:32.200 --> 0:19:34.199 a little bit. It's fine whatever, I mean basically what 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:36.399 it sounds like at this point from what we've heard, 0:19:38.160 --> 0:19:41.959