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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. I was curious the reaction on Twitter's Dave

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Speaker 1: Roberts took Clayton Kershaw out after seven perfect innings. What

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Speaker 1: the reaction would be locally in Los Angeles as opposed

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Speaker 1: to nationally, Because nationally, everybody's like, you can't take him out.

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Speaker 1: But you know, if you're not a Dodger fan, all

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Speaker 1: you want to do is see a perfect game. But

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Speaker 1: if you're a Dodger fan, you'll probably think we'd like

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Speaker 1: to have Kershaw the entire season. I want to have

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Speaker 1: him in October, not in April, and if that means

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Speaker 1: I don't see a perfect game now. Fritzie brought up

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Speaker 1: an interesting element to this. Yep, see why yea, I

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Speaker 1: know that we're winning. Yeah, Why if this would have

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Speaker 1: been a home game, how difficult would that be as

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Speaker 1: Dave Roberts went out there to take out Clayton Kershaw.

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Speaker 1: Because I think that's a fair point if it was

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Speaker 1: at home, where there have been a little bit more

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Speaker 1: pressure on him to keep him out there. But I

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Speaker 1: think there's there's an outrage by a national baseball fans.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if there's outraged by local baseball fans.

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Speaker 1: All right, so Seaton, we have the poll question up. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we should do. Dn Uh, still giggling about Todd brought

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Speaker 1: up something interesting. It's like a tick of mine. My

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Speaker 1: left hand just jets out from that. So funny, right out,

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Speaker 1: Dan polling Clayton Kershaw was seventy percent more soft than smart. Wow. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Intelligence runs in the family. Innovation runs in the family.

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Speaker 1: Extraordinary runs in the family. The twenty twenty two mercedespins

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Speaker 1: range of subs. Every member is waiting to impress. Learn

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Speaker 1: more at mbusa dot com. I was strolling through the

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Speaker 1: Internet looking at websites, and all of a sudden I

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Speaker 1: saw this article. It said that Laker players were texting

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Speaker 1: during a game, and then I saw the bye line

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Speaker 1: is by my good buddy, A former teammate of mine

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Speaker 1: in college. Steve Bullpitt, the senior and NBA columnist for

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Speaker 1: Heavy dot Com, spent a lot of years covering the

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Speaker 1: Celtics for the Boston Herald and Bullpit, joins us on

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Speaker 1: the program. Steve, good to see you again. How did

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Speaker 1: how did you come about the texting on the bench

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Speaker 1: with the Lakers? It wasn't on the bench, Daniel it

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Speaker 1: was halftime. If you read the story, I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: if you took the reading comprehension class at V Yeah, no, seriously,

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Speaker 1: it was. It was at halftime and you know, basically

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Speaker 1: talking to a bunch of gms and people around the

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Speaker 1: league as you do regularly for the job, and this

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Speaker 1: stuff started to come out and it just really looks

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Speaker 1: like it was a mess out there. Okay, but do

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Speaker 1: we know who was texting? Uh? Is lebron in on this?

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Speaker 1: It kind of felt like in the article you're talking

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Speaker 1: like the front office had disrespect for Frank Vogel, that

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Speaker 1: the players liked him, But here they are, you know,

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Speaker 1: texting during halftime. Well I know, at least I know

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Speaker 1: definitely one of the people who was texting, but it Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I can't say who it was, but yeah, definitely I

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Speaker 1: know one. And that person said that he wasn't, according

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Speaker 1: to the quote, wasn't the only m effort texting at

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Speaker 1: the time. Cleaned it up for you, Bud, But you know, now,

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Speaker 1: do you think stories are going to come out now

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Speaker 1: because Vogel's gone and maybe there was more to what

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Speaker 1: was going on behind the scenes. Well, actually the story

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Speaker 1: about the texting was brought to me like a while back,

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Speaker 1: but we were developing, trying to develop that. But yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: there was this stuff was going on for a while.

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Speaker 1: And I point out, this was this incident or you know,

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Speaker 1: the incident that this points to the situation it points

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Speaker 1: to actually occurred when they were you know, months ago,

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Speaker 1: Every one of them talked about what they were going

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Speaker 1: just seemed like guys are trying to be who they

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Speaker 1: The ideal coach for the Lakers would be who in

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Speaker 1: your opinion? Uh, it's weird because I think the ideal

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Speaker 1: coach has got to be someone that has some control

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Speaker 1: with the front office because I think that's where the

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Speaker 1: problems are stemming. Um, you know, you've got to create

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Speaker 1: a roster that's gonna work, not just like as someone

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Speaker 1: pointed out in the story, you know, not just rotisserie

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Speaker 1: baseball here ortissery basketball. So you know, UM, I hesitate

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Speaker 1: with some of the names that have been mentioned, but um,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think I don't think any self respecting

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Speaker 1: are are cleared out, are cleared up. Yeah, but how

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Speaker 1: figure out like what's gonna what's gonna make it through

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Speaker 1: because if you if you look at them now, Daniel,

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Speaker 1: That's a hard, hard situation to see anyone digging themselves

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Speaker 1: out of. Phil Jackson's not walking through that door, is he?

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Speaker 1: You know, I have too much respect for Phil's intelligence

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Speaker 1: to think you do that. Well, he did go to

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Speaker 1: the Knicks, Steve. Well, you know, someone throws a whole

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Speaker 1: bag of money. Actually, do you think that they would

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Speaker 1: It's funny you mentioned the term drive by and Phil.

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Speaker 1: and sometimes Phil would drive by the place on his

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Speaker 1: the bar as a Phil Jackson drive by. Who's he

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Speaker 1: Phil and drive by. I apologize for veering off to

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Speaker 1: that's the wall gang, but not during that never I know,

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Speaker 1: Well why throw it to somebody who wasn't as good

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Speaker 1: philosophy that I had. Steve. My stock line was that

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Speaker 1: But actually I'm gonna I'm gonna probably piss off your

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Speaker 1: He was probably actually little bit better than that. You

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Speaker 1: way to stop me, Steve was with a handgun, and

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Speaker 1: absolutely positively. Uh yes, PAULI, Yeah, Dan, we don't get

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Speaker 1: this obtrun that often, Steve. If you have any other

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Speaker 1: stories that are passible for national radio television, bring them up.

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Speaker 1: they're How about the one in Atlanta, Dan, where you

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Speaker 1: and he decided he'd had enough of that and he

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Speaker 1: for his career. I think I mumbled that to him.

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Speaker 1: But the next day or the Celings are played the

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Speaker 1: Hawks that night. The next day we were flying to

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Speaker 1: the next city and the trainer on this is back

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Speaker 1: when the Celings were flying commercial tell you how long

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Speaker 1: ago it was, and the trainer saw my hand. It

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Speaker 1: stitches when we got to the next city. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for taking one for the team. Need to go, Daniel.

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Speaker 1: Great to see you, Bullpit, thank you and good luck, buddy.

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Speaker 1: He was, well, sorry, hey, you've done pretty well for yourself. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, you know, like starting to make a carven

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Speaker 1: out of career here slow, Proud of you. Thank you. Steve.

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Speaker 1: Steve Bullpitt, Senior NBA columnists for Heavy dot Com. I

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Speaker 1: had the story, and yes, I read this story. I

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Speaker 1: just didn't relay the story correctly. There h Bullpott was

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Speaker 1: a teammate of mine, gritty gutty. Yeah, he was serviceable.

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Speaker 1: Are You and Get off My Long guy, Frank, are

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Speaker 1: And would you at least place a call to Phil Jackson.

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Speaker 1: There's only thirty of those jobs. It is the Lakers.

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Speaker 1: we look at that and we go, okay. Golfers Kevin

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Speaker 1: nag would get at the top of his swing and

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Speaker 1: he didn't know how to get back down to the ball, yips,

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Speaker 1: you know guys who were putting. Now, you know, we

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Speaker 1: don't factor that in with basketball players, that they get

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Speaker 1: to the free throw line and they have they freeze up,

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Speaker 1: they don't know how to do something. It feels like

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Speaker 1: that's been left unexplored. Whereas we've seen a lot more instances,

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Speaker 1: or at least we've unearthed those in golf and baseball.

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Speaker 1: Why is that now? I think that's a great call,

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Speaker 1: and I know so. I think how many times have

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00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 1: we've seen guys they'll show them in warmups where they'll

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Speaker 1: show them on the practice court and they're knocking down

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00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 1: free thos Janis was like that if you remember last year,

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Speaker 1: and then of course he figured his whole situation out

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Speaker 1: during the playoff, which was pretty extraordinary the way that

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Speaker 1: he did that. But I think that's a very fair point.

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Speaker 1: I think maybe you feel isolated out there at the

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Speaker 1: free throw line, and to your point, you kind of

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Speaker 1: get the yips and you cannot make free throws. And

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Speaker 1: you know, Shaq was a guy that was a poor

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Speaker 1: free throw shoot. I remember the day that he got

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Speaker 1: when it was announced he was going through the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame and they asked him about free throws, shooting

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Speaker 1: and about shooting underhand. He said, I'd rather miss all

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Speaker 1: of them than shoot him underhand. But he also used

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Speaker 1: to bring up the point they didn't really lose big

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Speaker 1: games because he missed free throws, but you could kind

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Speaker 1: of relate a lot of the free throws at Ben

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Speaker 1: Simmons missed last year against Atlanta to them blowing that

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Speaker 1: game Game five or that had the big lead, and

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Speaker 1: then obviously Game seven when they had a big lead.

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Speaker 1: Mason Plumley is right handed. He's shooting free throws left handed.

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Speaker 1: If you go from right handed to left handed, Frank,

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Speaker 1: go all the way to underhand right you have a

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Speaker 1: better chance of making underhand free throws. And you can't say, well,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to be embarrassed. No, you're already embarrassed.

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Speaker 1: You make less than forty percent of your free throws. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: what you need to do is why don't you get

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Speaker 1: Rick Barry on? And all you have to do is

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Speaker 1: ask him about it and then sit back and he'll

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Speaker 1: go on for about fifteen twenty minutes and he's gonna

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Speaker 1: tell you how he would solve it. Oh no, he's

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Speaker 1: gonna solve everybody. I mean, Rick Barry's a piece of work.

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Speaker 1: You know how long he'll go on for. But there

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Speaker 1: is something to be said for that. And it's also

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Speaker 1: a vanity thing. I don't want to be the guy

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Speaker 1: that everyone's making fun of shooting freak thoughs. But yet

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Speaker 1: nobody makes fun of you. If you make him. Frank,

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Speaker 1: I agree, I don't. I don't get it. And it's

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Speaker 1: a big and you're losing games because of it. That

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Speaker 1: that's the thing that gets you. I was surprised with

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Speaker 1: the Nets and the Cavaliers that you had a near

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Speaker 1: perfect game by Kyrie and a unbelievable game with Durant,

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Speaker 1: but you had to hold on against the Cavaliers at home.

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Speaker 1: How does that bode for them playing against the Celtic. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And the big thing with Steve Nash and Steve Nash

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Speaker 1: two time MVP, great offensive player. When he played for Phoenix,

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Speaker 1: all everybody talked about was offense, never defense. All Steve

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Speaker 1: talks about with the Nets is defense. How they need

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Speaker 1: to get better. One of their last games of the season,

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Speaker 1: they played the Houston Rockets. They gave up a ton

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Speaker 1: of points. Their final game against Indiana where you would

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Speaker 1: have needed a scorebook to figure out who these guys were.

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Speaker 1: They put up one hundred and twenty six on the

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Speaker 1: Brooklyn Nets. Defense is an issue with them. Now Cleveland

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Speaker 1: did cut it. I think it was either five or six.

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Speaker 1: It was never a one possession game with the final

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Speaker 1: three quarters, but they had a twenty two point lead

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Speaker 1: and Cleveland got back into it. It's an issue, and

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Speaker 1: if Cleveland had had Jared Allen that could have been

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Speaker 1: a much different story. Then that's very easy. It could

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Speaker 1: be playing tomorrow night just to get into the plays. Offensively,

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Speaker 1: there's nothing to worry about with the nets. Kevin Durant

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Speaker 1: is at a different level. He makes the right play

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Speaker 1: every single time. Both he and Kyrie were double digit assists.

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Speaker 1: That could buy for twenty three assists in that game.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to worry about that team offensively. The

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Speaker 1: big thing is going to be defense, which we were

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Speaker 1: just talking about Ben Simmons. Offensively, he would help them defensively.

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Speaker 1: Great to talk to you as always. Thank you, Frank,

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Speaker 1: good seeing you, Dan. Take care. That's Frank Eisoli. Commissioners

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Speaker 1: Silver will be on the program tomorrow. You know, I

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Speaker 1: got a question for the commissioner tomorrow. I would hope. Well, no,

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Speaker 1: I got one question that nobody is thinking about right now.

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Speaker 1: You know what, let me ask I'll keep but let

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Speaker 1: me bring back Frank here. Frank, I have one. I

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Speaker 1: have one question here for the commissioner. I got a

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Speaker 1: few questions about, you know, load management, but I'm going

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Speaker 1: to ask you you play the role of commissioner silver good.

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Speaker 1: Why is it we allow players to carry the ball?

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Speaker 1: Is there an infraction of carrying the ball? Can that

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Speaker 1: be called in today's NBA? Why do we allow that?

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Speaker 1: When you know Iverson and Stockton, you know we would

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Speaker 1: call carrying on them, and I think earlier in the

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Speaker 1: season it does get called, and then it seems like

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Speaker 1: as the season goes on they call it lesson lesson.

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Speaker 1: Every once in a while, out of nowhere it comes out.

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Speaker 1: Ask him missed. What if we changed if to win

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Speaker 1: postseason awards you had to play in a minimum amount

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Speaker 1: of games, whether it's sixty eight or seventy. And how

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00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,719
Speaker 1: about this too, scoring title? All that stuff? Make it total.

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Speaker 1: No one talks about who led the NFL in average

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Speaker 1: touchdown passes per game. It's total. So Trey Young led

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Speaker 1: the league in total points, total assists. Maybe guys on

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Speaker 1: the second halt of a back to back would just

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Speaker 1: play the second half. It's not going to affect your average,

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Speaker 1: but it'll hope your totals. Let's go to total since

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Speaker 1: guys are playing high fifties, low sixties. Well, also, you

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Speaker 1: could put a minimum to make the first and second

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Speaker 1: and third team All NBA, and money factors into that.

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Speaker 1: Now with all NBA, so make it. I agree, put

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Speaker 1: that on there. So who incentivize the players to play

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Speaker 1: in more of the game and also no positions. Give

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Speaker 1: me the five best players on first team. Five best players,

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Speaker 1: five best player, Rudy Gobert good player, not one of

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Speaker 1: the top fifteen players in the NBA. Yeah, and then

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Speaker 1: you're you know, they benefit from you know, how many

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Speaker 1: great centers have there been now maybe a few more now,

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Speaker 1: But I thing five best players might be five guards,

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Speaker 1: but they're five best players. And remember when that first

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Speaker 1: came up and a bunch of the center said, well,

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Speaker 1: that's not fair because now nobody's going to vote a center. Well,

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Speaker 1: the top the guys that are probably gonna finish one,

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Speaker 1: two and three in the MVP boat this year, or

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Speaker 1: Mbiid Nicola Yokich, Janni Sinteta, Coumbo, Yeah, all big man,

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Speaker 1: Jannis more of a four to five. But to your point,

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Speaker 1: you know, they're going to be some years where the

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Speaker 1: five best players are guards, some years where they're small forwards.

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Speaker 1: This year, three of the best players in the league.

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Speaker 1: We're all big man, Thank you, Frank and Thanks for

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Speaker 1: playing the role with Commissioner Commissioner Silver. Thanks for listening

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Speaker 1: to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch

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Speaker 1: us live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six

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Speaker 1: find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream

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Speaker 1: us live on the Peacock app. I'm George Reister, host

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Speaker 1: of the Reister or Wrong Podcast. This is the intersection

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Speaker 1: where sports, business, society and pop culture meeting the truth

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Speaker 1: sure you check your feelings at the door because nobs

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Speaker 1: is allowed. We keep it one hundred. This is where

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Speaker 1: real conversations happen. Listen to the Rights Are Wrong podcasts

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Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio, Apple Apple Podcast or wherever you get

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Speaker 1: your podcasts sheet and pulled question from the first two hours, Well, Dan,

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Speaker 1: we've actually run with a bunch of them here and

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Speaker 1: if you remember, we were doing softer smart Okay, So

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Speaker 1: if we go back to the first hour we did

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Speaker 1: pulling Clayton Kershaw was more soft or smart? Right now,

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Speaker 1: seventy percent of the audience calling it soft. We have

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Speaker 1: sitting Zion Williamson whilst allowing him to dunk pregame is

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Speaker 1: more smarter soft. Do you want to guess how that's going.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Eighty eight percent saying soft. Okay, not

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Speaker 1: playing Ben Simmons is more smarter soft. I have no

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Speaker 1: idea that would be sixty three percent soft. We got

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a trend going here. I got

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Speaker 1: one more for you, okay, Baker Mayfield's interview was more

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Speaker 1: smart or soft? That also seventy two percent of the

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Speaker 1: audience calling that soft. All right, let me get a

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Speaker 1: couple of phone calls. People have been on hold talking

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Speaker 1: about Clayton Kershaw for most of the show so far,

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Speaker 1: that he was pulled after seven innings with a perfect game.

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Speaker 1: By the way, this is what Clayton Kershaw had to

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Speaker 1: say after being pulled in Minnesota. Yeah, I mean I

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Speaker 1: knew going in that my pitch account wasn't going to

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Speaker 1: be one hundred, let alone you know, nine or whatever.

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Speaker 1: So it's a hard thing to do to have to

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Speaker 1: come out of a game when you're doing that. But

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Speaker 1: like I said, we're here to win and that this

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Speaker 1: was the right choice, all right. Prior to that start,

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Speaker 1: the last one was October first, and he left with

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Speaker 1: a forearm discomfort, and that was the same injury that

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Speaker 1: September the twelfth. George and Alabama High George, sign your mind. Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: So I umpired in Little league for about twenty years,

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Speaker 1: and I think what we're seeing in baseball nowadays is

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Speaker 1: a combination of a lot of strain put on the

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Speaker 1: arms at the smallest level of competition. So you have

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Speaker 1: these guys now that are more throwers than pitchers, but

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Speaker 1: they're learning to throw a curveball before their arm is

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Speaker 1: fully developed. They're not properly getting their arm warmed up

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Speaker 1: before they go throw seventy five eighty pitches at eleven

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Speaker 1: and twelve years old. Also, they're playing more games now

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Speaker 1: than some you know colleges and you know minor league teams.

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Speaker 1: They're playing every weekend from February to November in these

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Speaker 1: travel ball tournaments. Some kids. I remember, I was like,

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Speaker 1: I would guestimate they're throwing anywhere from two hundred to

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Speaker 1: three hundred pitches in a week, you know, which is

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Speaker 1: is astronomical for a nine or ten year old kid.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's you know what we're seeing nowadays

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Speaker 1: because travel ball is so popular, we are seeing these

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Speaker 1: guys arms that are just dead by the time they

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Speaker 1: get into major leagues. Well, and also the philosophy, thank you, George,

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Speaker 1: is throw as hard as you can for as long

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Speaker 1: as you can. Then get Tommy John surgery. Johnny Bench

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Speaker 1: actually battered against Tommy John. The Hall of Famer former

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati redg ketcher joining us on this topic, Johnny, what

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Speaker 1: role would you have played. Let's say you got somebody

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Speaker 1: throwing a perfect game and you being the catcher, you

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Speaker 1: go out to the mound. Could you have done anything

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Speaker 1: to keep your pitcher? Could you have done anything to

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Speaker 1: keep Clayton Kershaw in the game? Well? I think, first

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Speaker 1: of all, Dan, it's early in the season. I think

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Speaker 1: we look back at Johan Santana and that basically ended

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Speaker 1: his career. So, I mean, what's all the big deal

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Speaker 1: in the second week of baseball, and the fact that

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Speaker 1: is more important than all of this and the arm

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Speaker 1: trouble he's had, the back trouble he's at. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's going to extend the effort and the eighth the

635
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Speaker 1: ninth inning. If he gets through the eighth, he's going

636
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: to go out and try to throw harder and smarter.

637
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: In the ninth inning, I'm gonna try to snap off

638
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: the curveball hard and slider everything else. All he needs

639
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: is one tweek. There goes the down. He's out for

640
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: a month. I think it's just way too smart for

641
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: us for them to not take him out. I think

642
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: it was just the right choice. And by the way,

643
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: Hi Dad, Hi buddy, I thought you would go old

644
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: school on me. You know that you gotta be tough guy,

645
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: and you know, make history. You got a chance for

646
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: a perfect game. You the king of analytics, and saying

647
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: how many pitches we've thrown, you know, and how many

648
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: numbers of rotations that it was we have now the

649
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: rotation period of it, and how many but time is

650
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: spinning was going on at nine for a good curveball,

651
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: eleven for a really good curveball, and a great curveball

652
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: would be thirteen rotations. So if we got the rotational

653
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: level down and we know that now he's down at

654
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: eleven a quarter and down from eleven and a half,

655
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: which is a very important statistic. I think in our lives,

656
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: where's my bobble here? I keep looking, Uh, Fritzie's got it,

657
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: probably on his desk. I think Fritzie's got it back there. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

658
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: we got your bobblehead. Um do you never caught a

659
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: perfect game? You caught no hitter? Oh? Sure, bring that

660
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: up again. I mean, here we go with that. I

661
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: didn't call a perfect game. I did caught a no hitter.

662
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: I caught a no here. Jim Maloney is good or

663
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: right hander has ever pitched in the game. Nobody will

664
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: ever bring that up. But he was again just Houston

665
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 1: it was. And then they turned around and Don Willson

666
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: will the next night. Very good, you're about it. But

667
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: at the game, I was at the Ken Holtzman game.

668
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: Oh thanks. How about Rick Wise? I was at that game.

669
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,800
Speaker 1: He had two home runs and he threw hit against

670
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 1: the reds um and they didn't want to take him

671
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 1: out because of his bat. They wanted to. But you know,

672
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 1: we get caught up in the pitch count. Now. Mc

673
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: kershaw is a pitch There are a lot of throwers

674
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 1: and throwers I understand pitch count. With a pitcher, it's

675
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,919
Speaker 1: a little bit different, and I agree with you. It's

676
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: in Minnesota. It's his first start since last October. And

677
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: although I wonder if they had been in Los Angeles

678
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 1: Johnny forty thousand, forty five thousand, sunny weather seventy five degrees.

679
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: I think Dave Roberts reconsiders leaving them in. He might,

680
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: he might, but I think he's too valuable to that

681
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 1: organization right now. Yeah. I mean, they lost sirs did

682
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: the Mets. They did a couple of things they've had

683
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: to do with the Bueller's sound and everything else. We

684
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: know yours and all the people and everything else. They

685
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: got a great pitching staff, but you're not gonna you

686
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 1: can you can't win it in the first two weeks

687
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: of the season. And the fact that you need you

688
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: need Clayton back there. I know it was probably a

689
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: disappointing thing for him. He is the competitor that we

690
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: know that he probably wanted to stay and he probably

691
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 1: you know, you know, he said, hey, I want to

692
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: stay in, And it just doesn't make any sense. I mean,

693
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: I just can't take an arm and the money that

694
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 1: they're paying him and they're going to take him out

695
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 1: at the first twins anyway, but I just you know,

696
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: but when Johan Santana's name came up, and and Bobby's

697
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,479
Speaker 1: sitting here telling me, hey, Johan Santana's career was ended

698
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 1: because he tried to pitch the perfect game. But you

699
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: look back and what was it about those pitchers that

700
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 1: you grew up facing That they pitched, They completed games,

701
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: They didn't have armed troubles like these guys do. Now,

702
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 1: why is that? We know more? We know more. We've

703
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: got MRIs to tell you, and we've got trainers. We've

704
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 1: got fourteen trainers with thirteen coaches. We've got everybody to'll

705
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: tell you that we may have a little strand missing

706
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: here in the muscle dang, and the fiber may have

707
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: gone down and everything else. Jim Maloney threw a no

708
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 1: hitter in Chicago, ten ending no hitter. He threw one

709
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty seven pitches. Well, he walked ten, hit one.

710
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 1: But that's beside the point about one hundred and eighty

711
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 1: seven pitches, Nolan Ryan, everything else. You know, it's now

712
00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: the mentality. We've got it. We've we've got there's there's

713
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: somebody with a some kind of electronic thing that will

714
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 1: tell you that if he throws more than this, he

715
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: is going to be, you know, more prone to entries

716
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: would mean more puny. It's like you if you talked

717
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: on the radio for eight hours, would you have your

718
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: vocal records and where they do it? And then would

719
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: Fritzie take you out of the chair. I mean, you know,

720
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: give them a break. I could have a word count.

721
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 1: I'd be on a word count, Johnny. Yeah, but you

722
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 1: don't even go soft or safe or strong whatever that was.

723
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: I don't know what that soft thing. There were softball

724
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: questions to begin with. But do we need to go

725
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: with electronics to hide the signs down in baseball? What

726
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 1: do you think of the modern technology for catchers? I

727
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: think it's cool, you know, I've always thought it would

728
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 1: be a great idea to have that happen to you know,

729
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: and of course the chance of getting crossed up is

730
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: a lot less. But I think Bobby brought up a

731
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: great point was the fact that what happens when the

732
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: reliever comes in? Do you re you know? Do you

733
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: have to go to all right, go to go to

734
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 1: code two, go to code three, go to go to

735
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 1: number three? How do we pay? It's because he's doing

736
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 1: different signs, but it's still an inside fastball or a

737
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: splitter or whatever. I don't know if those things are communicating.

738
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: I saw something on Senseil the other day that he

739
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 1: made a catch and he said because he had the sensor,

740
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: he was able to adjust to what the pitch was

741
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 1: going to be and get that extra step jump that

742
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: got him to the ball because he knew with him

743
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 1: throwing hard, it was going to be more tendency to

744
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 1: hit the right center with the breaking ball than he

745
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: was going to have to shave towards left. So it

746
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: was kind of interesting to hear that part of it.

747
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: And I think that in itself is a pretty good play.

748
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: And yeah, I think the stuff, you know, sign stealing,

749
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: nobody's ever going to be safe from it because I've

750
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 1: got people and wireless right now trying to get all

751
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: the signs. I'm trying to do it new technology. What

752
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 1: was your reaction to the Reds president Bob Castellini's comments about,

753
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: you know, the Reds fans, you know, what are you

754
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: going to do? You know, we we can move the

755
00:38:55,480 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: franchise here, you know, away from Cincinnati. Well, I was

756
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: part of the ownership, a new ownership that wanted to

757
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 1: buy the ball club from W. J. Williams back in

758
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: the early eighties, and we were part of a guy

759
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: named Abray Smith out of Tulsa, Oklahoma. He owned a

760
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: Louisville ball club which was the Triple A affiliate of

761
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: the Reds, and he proposed to buy the Reds and

762
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 1: I was part of that ownership possibility. And W. J.

763
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: Williams says, well, they'll sell, they'll move it, they'll move it.

764
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: That's always been the call of everything that's ever been done,

765
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: any new ownership. They'll move it. If somebody buys it,

766
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: they'll move the town, they'll move the team. They'll move

767
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: the team. And that's always been the battle cry, I

768
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 1: think Phil obviously, there was an article written in the newspaper.

769
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: There's some couple of billboards up saying, you know, Bob

770
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: maybe should sell the team and everything else. It's a

771
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: shame because his passion is second to none for that

772
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: talent and for that ball club, but he hasn't been

773
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: able to get the winner that he wants or the

774
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: city wants. And so Phil put his you know, had

775
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: a little bit of a it was a little test.

776
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: He he didn't like the article that was written. He

777
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,280
Speaker 1: wanted to protect his dad, He wanted to protect his family.

778
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,399
Speaker 1: He thinks they're doing a great job. So he came

779
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: out and then he came back on the radio a

780
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: couple of times and trying to get that sort of

781
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: soothed over. But it's it's just the normal thing that

782
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: goes on. I mean, we had forty three thousand for

783
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 1: opening day, and you know, we had a lot of

784
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: empty seats posing as people yesterday, so uh, they just uh,

785
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 1: they're they're trying. Obviously, when when they let Winker go,

786
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: we know that Sonny Gray was fine, light that that

787
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: was okay because we've got some young arms that need

788
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,240
Speaker 1: to look Ladello, we got Green, We've got some people

789
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 1: that need a opportunity to pitch if they're ever going

790
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 1: to do it. But you know, you can't sign castianos,

791
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: you can't. You know, Winker was going to be coming

792
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: up with a big contract. They felt like simplon to

793
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 1: play in center field, and they're somewhat happy with what

794
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: they've got and they're going to hopefully have to prove it.

795
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 1: It's good to talk to us always, Johnny. Thanks for

796
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: Johnny pleasure, my friend. How are you feeling okay? Feeling great,

797
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:53,240
Speaker 1: feeling great, but I could probably give you about eighty

798
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: two eighty three pitches. Nice. Yeah, well, somebody's gonna have

799
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 1: to help me, squad, can I just they said, are

800
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: you going to squat today? I'm catching the first pitch

801
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: of the high school game here today? My boys go

802
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: to and they said, are you going to squat? And

803
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,280
Speaker 1: I said, up, I could squat. I'd be making fifteen

804
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: million here. You can't get back up, though I know

805
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: I was. I was thinking about making a comeback, but

806
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: a pull the muscle vacuum in the other day and

807
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: I'm really set back. So enjoy. Thank you, Thank you, buddy.

808
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: That's Johnny Bench, Hall of Famer Reds catcher, fourteen time

809
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 1: All Star. Yes, puny, how great is it? We could

810
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: just call it Johnny Bench whatever you want. Well, Fritzie

811
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: bothers him all the time that you told me when

812
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,280
Speaker 1: I was nine years old, Johnny Bench would be like, hey, johnnybody,

813
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: I know you love him more than you. He's a

814
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: beloved national sports figure. Yes, if you weren't a Reds fan,

815
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 1: yes he is, Yes he is. That's great. You know

816
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 1: what happens with the fans is that you know they

817
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: do the math where they go, Okay, how much money

818
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 1: are you getting from baseball? And how much local revenue

819
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: do you get? TV contracts, radio contracts. They sort of,

820
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: you know, they can figure this out. They're not seeing

821
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: the books. But then they're going, okay, how much profit

822
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 1: are the Reds making? Eighty million, one hundred million, how

823
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: much do you need to make and how much can

824
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 1: you invest in your team? I think that's what it

825
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: comes down to. I'd like to know what the Reds

826
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: are making, what is their profit? And look, they have

827
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: every right to have a profit as the owners and shareholders.

828
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: I understand that, but if you're a fan, you just

829
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: want to know how much money are you going to

830
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 1: put in here, as opposed to how much are you making?

831
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: And not everybody's a billionaire. I don't think that Castellini

832
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 1: is a billionaire. I think he's probably got a half

833
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: a billion something like that, I believe, or at least

834
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: those are the numbers I saw. But as you know,

835
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 1: as a fan, you just want to know are you

836
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 1: putting money back into the team, and how much are

837
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:54,439
Speaker 1: you putting back into the team and their payroll. They're

838
00:42:54,480 --> 00:43:02,359
Speaker 1: probably they're not midway. They're probably in the twenties as

839
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 1: far as their payroll compared to other teams. Yeah, Pauling,

840
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: I got double check this, but I got the Reds

841
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: around like seventeen, and okay, I was gonna say, are

842
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 1: they twenty first in the league in payroll? All right,

843
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 1: so they're about halfway there. But you know, we want

844
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: to know how much you're making, or at least how

845
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 1: much you're putting in. You know, the Bengals were for

846
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: years famously cheap. You know, didn't have an outdoor practice facility.

847
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 1: I mean, they were just they were making money. But

848
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 1: you got to reinvest that money too in your product

849
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: because at some point you wake up and you go, wait,

850
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: fans aren't coming to the ballpark. Yeah, Polling, I've got

851
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 1: all the payrolls for this year and that the top

852
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,720
Speaker 1: teams are who you'd expect, The Dodgers, the Metsy, Yankees,

853
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,879
Speaker 1: the Red Sox. The San Diego Padres had the fifth

854
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: highest payroll for the twenty twenty two seasons. Does that

855
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: feel like a large, big supermarket like huge? No, But

856
00:43:55,760 --> 00:44:00,320
Speaker 1: they invested in you know, Machado. Their their payrolls to million.

857
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:04,240
Speaker 1: That's fifth in the league. Yeah, that's all surprising. Yeah, well,

858
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: how much of that is wrapped up in two players?

859
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: The Orioles are forty four million. That's like, that's two

860
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty million less than the Dodgers. Yeah, and

861
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:24,399
Speaker 1: that's a great baseball town. Holy cow, Jeff Bezos has

862
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: that in his wallet right now. By the way, do

863
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: you see this story on Elon Musk? He offered to

864
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: buy Twitter for forty one billion dollars, so he was

865
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: he rejected a seat on the company's board, but he

866
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 1: wanted to buy Twitter for forty one billion dollars. Man,

867
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 1: the fact that he's like one hundred billion dollars richer

868
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: than Jeff Bezos right now, is I know crazy? Would

869
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 1: you want to have beers with Elon Musk or Bill Belichick? O,

870
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 1: or you quit drinking I quit drinking instead? Um, I

871
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,240
Speaker 1: don't I don't know if I would connect with Elon Musk.

872
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. If we would, we wouldn't be on

873
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: the same wave link. Well, I wouldn't be on the

874
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: same wave link with Belichick. I'd quit drinking, But if

875
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 1: I had to, I'd go out with Belichick just to

876
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 1: see if we're having plural beers. And he's got to

877
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 1: keep up with me, then I might get some information

878
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: onto flake gate and spygate. Yeah yeah. How many beers

879
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 1: in do you ask about why Malcolm Butler didn't play

880
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 1: that I do a sake bomb with him, I think

881
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 1: at that point. And then I did a sake bomb

882
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 1: the other night. Then my wife's birthday, and uh, I'm

883
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: with some people and they're like sake bombs, and I go,

884
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 1: I don't think so. And then they're like brought out saki.

885
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 1: They put the chopsticks up on the on the beer

886
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 1: and you bang the table and it plops in and

887
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: then you fire away. I haven't i'dn't done a sack bum.

888
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,919
Speaker 1: I don't think in a long long time. I only

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00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,240
Speaker 1: had one though. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick

890
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday

891
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:13,400
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00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,080
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00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:19,000
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00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,239
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00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:26,040
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Speaker 1: Peacock app. The Hawks rolled the Hornets last night, Pelicans

897
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:34,240
Speaker 1: beat the Spurs. Zion was warming up doing three sixty dunks.

898
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 1: But apparently not playing in the next game. You got

899
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 1: New Orleans in Los Angeles coming up on Friday, Atlanta

900
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: at Cleveland on Friday, and the Hall of Famer Dominique Wilkins.

901
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: Back on the show, Nick, what did you take away

902
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: from last night's Hawks performance against the Hornets? Well, I

903
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: thought our defense was outstanding last night. From start defenans,

904
00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: we really put them in uncomfortable situations last night. So

905
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: I thought from a from a defensive standpoint, we really

906
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: put our stamp on that game and it really generated

907
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 1: a lot of easy offerense for us, especially in the

908
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: second half. Who does Trey Young remind you of? You know,

909
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: he he's a special young man. I mean, you know,

910
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: he has the court vision like a Pete Marriage who

911
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: can really get people involved. I mean, unbelievable court vision

912
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: this kid has and his ability to get to a

913
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 1: to B as quickly as possible, you know, when either

914
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 1: with a three point shot or the drive man. So

915
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 1: it's hard to say this one guy remind you, But

916
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: the first guy that comes to mind someone like a

917
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 1: Pete Marriage who really does a great job at really

918
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: getting people involved. I mean he's a wonderful pastor. Did

919
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 1: you face, Maravich, No, I did. I missed marriage by

920
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 1: I think one or two years, but I used to

921
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 1: actually without the college, I used to work out with

922
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 1: him the summer, so he helped get me ready for

923
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,439
Speaker 1: the NBA. What was that like? Oh? It was man,

924
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 1: it was fun. I mean, here's a guy that I

925
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: had a lot of respect for, and I knew of him,

926
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 1: and I met him a few times in Atlanta, and

927
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 1: so when I was at Georgia and he used to

928
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 1: come down, you know, on the weekends, and we used

929
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 1: to work in ball, hamming scales, shooting and no sort

930
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: of thing. So we had a really cool relationship. And

931
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 1: he was one of the great ball handlers of all time.

932
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: I know, we look at Kyrie now, but Marivich and

933
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,720
Speaker 1: then you realize that, you know, that guy was scoring

934
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 1: forty five points a game in college. He was before

935
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: his time. Yeah, what he was doing never been done before,

936
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: and he didn't He averaged that in college forty four

937
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 1: points a game, which is pretty amazing when you sit

938
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: back and think about it, with no three point line.

939
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: What would you have been like though in today's Nbah, Man,

940
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: you know, I come from air where you know, it

941
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: was physical bumping, grind and the h put your hands

942
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: on people, and I still was averaging. You know, twenty

943
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 1: thirty a game. I don't know. If I had the

944
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: freedom of movement where people couldn't put the hands on me,

945
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I believe it would be a

946
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 1: lot more than thirty five a game. It's because of

947
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,760
Speaker 1: the freedom that you have, you know, so it's easier

948
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 1: to score. Did you have a rivalry with Jordan when

949
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: it came to scoring? I know there was this slam

950
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 1: dunk contest, but did you feel like you were every

951
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 1: bit as good, if not better than Jordan? Oh? Man,

952
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: we had plenty of riding. There's plenty rival you know, Michael,

953
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,879
Speaker 1: all the guys I played against, brobab him. A fun

954
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,800
Speaker 1: guy to play against is Michael Jordan Man because he

955
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 1: raised your level of play intensitive, Wait, it's fun. I've

956
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,919
Speaker 1: never heard somebody describe playing against Jordan is fun. Nick,

957
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 1: it was. It was fun. What I mean by that

958
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: is that I was excited to play against him. So

959
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: it was fun to go against a great player like

960
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 1: of course, the competitive level was a whole different level.

961
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: Because we were very competitive. We wanted to kick each

962
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: other's button, there's no question about that. And so we

963
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: had some fears. Fears games that we played in each

964
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 1: other throughout our career, we against one another and our

965
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: careers we ever thirty over thirty a game against each

966
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: other in our career. And so when I say fun,

967
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: that's the atmosphere was, That's what basketball is about, to

968
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 1: play against somebody like that. I don't remember you talking

969
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:34,399
Speaker 1: when you played. Did Michael talk? I didn't talk much.

970
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: You know, at certain times that you talked now might

971
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: might get under your skin. You know, he might say

972
00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 1: a little bit, but he really he wasn't a big

973
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 1: time trash talking. He didn't have to be. But if

974
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: he talked, if he talked trash, you know, he was

975
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 1: trying to get in your head or somebody he didn't like.

976
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 1: So but other than that, now, he didn't talk a lot.

977
00:50:55,840 --> 00:51:00,760
Speaker 1: You remember your first playoff game? Oh, man, my first

978
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 1: player game so long ago, I can't remember. I believe

979
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 1: it was against I don't know Milwaukee. I think it was,

980
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: but that's been so long ago, and it has for

981
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: me to think that far back. Who did you you

982
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 1: couldn't wait to face who? Which individual defender? Man? I'd

983
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: say it was a lot of great defenders back then. No,

984
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 1: the guy who wasn't any good like um, I asked

985
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: George Gervin, I said, ice, who was the guy that

986
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 1: you couldn't wait to play against? He goes, Kevin Grievy.

987
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: Kevin Grievey. Um, oh, man, that's a girl. Because the

988
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 1: guy that I had most wanted to play against, but

989
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 1: from a from a defensive standpoint, guy who I love

990
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:52,280
Speaker 1: playing against, guys like Kelly Chap you know, you know,

991
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: it was something about him, man that as I couldn't

992
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 1: wait to play Well, yeah, did he did he have

993
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 1: the the throwback then or you know, yeah he did, Yeah,

994
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 1: he had the perm or whatever that. Yeah, And I

995
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 1: remember in the playoff game, I went from fifty in

996
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: a playoff. Man, he was one of those games. You know,

997
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 1: I hope he's dead tonight. I got your first playoff game.

998
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:23,319
Speaker 1: It's against Boston nineteen eighty three. Was okay, yeah, that's

999
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: a long time ago. Wow. I know I wouldn't have

1000
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: guessed Boston, you know, if I didn't go back and

1001
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:32,720
Speaker 1: look through the archive. But that was a great Boston team.

1002
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: That was. So that's your first time facing bird and

1003
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: Well in the playoffs. Yeah, because you guys had great battles. Yeah,

1004
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: you know, you know that the first time Bird ever

1005
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,879
Speaker 1: talked to ask me as my rookie season, my first

1006
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 1: game I ever played against him. What are you saying?

1007
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: That was the only thing. Uh, I can't even tell

1008
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: you what he said, cleaned up the language? What what

1009
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 1: you know? You know one of the things that the

1010
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 1: first thing at the clearly the only thing he said

1011
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: to me, I'm guarding him my first play. You know,

1012
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: He's coming down the court and I'm guarding me. Looks

1013
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 1: at me. He said, I don't know why they have

1014
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: to guarding me homes and he shoots the three. Now,

1015
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 1: I wasn't upset he made the three. I said at

1016
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: this summer, Gun just called me homes, you know. But

1017
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 1: it was funny because after that, because you know, they

1018
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: knew I was gonna keep coming, you know. But that

1019
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 1: was the only time he ever talked to asking me.

1020
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: And then we had a lot of respect for each

1021
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: other over the years, and so I never forget that

1022
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 1: one thing, though. Man, I'm like, I was so hot,

1023
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,439
Speaker 1: oh man. But you know, we talked about that stuff

1024
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 1: to this day. Man, we just sit and laugh about

1025
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: a lot of that stuff. Well, Bird famously wouldn't talk

1026
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 1: to I think it's Dan Marley. Um, he would talk

1027
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: to maybe Alton Lister or somebody, and he said, I

1028
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: feel so disrespected that you guys put a white guy

1029
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 1: on me. That dath Larry, dath Larry. How we was? Man,

1030
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: How was the seventy fifth anniversary party? Oh? Man? That was?

1031
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 1: That was amazing? It was. It was breathtaking. Did you

1032
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:19,839
Speaker 1: meet somebody that you had never met before? Yeah? Yeah,

1033
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 1: you meet quite a few people that you've never really

1034
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 1: had a chance to talk to. Um. It was when

1035
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: you walk into that room and they're taking pictures of

1036
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: you know, the greatest players. Man, the electricity in the room,

1037
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:36,320
Speaker 1: I mean, the emotions in the room. It's hard to explain.

1038
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 1: And there was so many of us that was just

1039
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 1: in awe of that moment. So that's something that was

1040
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 1: with you for the rest of your life. Hawks go

1041
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 1: to the Eastern Conference finals last year. How deep can

1042
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: they go this year? Well, you know, similar situation. Of course,

1043
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 1: we were much better situation last year as far as

1044
00:54:56,360 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 1: being in the playoffs. Um, but now you know, still

1045
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: have an opportunity if we win this next game to

1046
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 1: get to the eight spot and have a chance to

1047
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,959
Speaker 1: play this Miami, you know, and I think we match

1048
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:10,839
Speaker 1: up very very well against them. So I love the

1049
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,919
Speaker 1: Hawks chances, you know, against a team like Miami. But hey,

1050
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 1: we gotta get by Cleveland, Yes you do. And that's

1051
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 1: gonna be tough because although Cleveland not having Jared Allen,

1052
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: but that's that's a good team, and Darius Garland and

1053
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 1: Trey Young will be a good matchup. Oh yeah, it

1054
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:28,320
Speaker 1: would be a great matchup. And you're right, that team

1055
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 1: is so big up front. Now Allen plays tomorrow night,

1056
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 1: which you know we're hearing rumors that may happen. You know,

1057
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 1: they get bigger, you know, because Mobili just came back.

1058
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:41,359
Speaker 1: So it'll be a tough game. But again, you know,

1059
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 1: we go in and cut down a mistake to take

1060
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: care of basketball. We have a great chance of winning

1061
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: that game. Can you explain why Zion's not playing? I

1062
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 1: just heard you saying he was in the layup line,

1063
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 1: Duncan doing three sixty. It seemed like to me, ready

1064
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: to play if you can do all that stuff. But hey,

1065
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 1: you know, who knows. Yeah, I just don't understand that.

1066
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: You know, if if you you're not clear to play,

1067
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 1: are you clear to do three sixties and warm up sneak.

1068
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 1: You know, I come from a different era and we

1069
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 1: was like, hey, if we're healthy enough to walk up

1070
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 1: down the court and run, you can play. Yeah. You know, um,

1071
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, it's not that same mentality. You know,

1072
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 1: I played with to dislocated fingers and sprung ankle in

1073
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 1: the Temperaship one hundred and three. Didn't think once by

1074
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 1: not playing because that's how much I love the game,

1075
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 1: and I felt like I owe it to my teammates

1076
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 1: to be there. That was just my mentality. If I

1077
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 1: did an over sixty slam dunk competition, are you the

1078
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 1: number one seed? H No? No, Hey, I'm gonna tell

1079
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 1: you something, man, I've seen Doctor Jay and I've seen

1080
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: Kareem all on guys dunk over sixty four. You know

1081
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: when it was before they were dunk in the basketball.

1082
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 1: I might give you one, but you know, and the

1083
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 1: thing is going up as eat coming down. That's what

1084
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 1: Vince Carter told me. He says, I can go up,

1085
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 1: it's just coming down is what hurts. But he still

1086
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 1: has an advantage. He's a lot younger than all. Yeah,

1087
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 1: so he's got to make your advantage that would be

1088
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 1: interesting if Doctor Jay would win the slam dunk contest

1089
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 1: of the over sixty. Hey, look, you know it's it's

1090
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 1: it's quite a few guys who I think to could

1091
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 1: fit in that category. You know that. I look at

1092
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:44,600
Speaker 1: Clyde Drexeler. Yeah, you know, he's another guy who's still

1093
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: can throw it down pretty easily. Doc is seventy two.

1094
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: I didn't know Doc was that all. Yeah, you know

1095
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 1: he still looks. That's a few years back. I used

1096
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 1: to see him and he told me, he said, I

1097
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: tried to do one dunk the year. Every year. I

1098
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 1: try to do it all, you know, and he's and

1099
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 1: he has it's pretty amazing. Great to talk to you

1100
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 1: is always Nique and good luck with the Hawks on Friday.

1101
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 1: Always good to talk to you, Dan, appreciate you, thank you.

1102
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: But that's a Dominique Wilkins. Always good to talk to him.

1103
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 1: Human highlight film, one of the great nicknames there. Uh

1104
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 1: get a couple of phone calls in here, Uh Mo

1105
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 1: and Arizona, Hi Mo, what's on your mind today? Good

1106
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 1: morning Dan, Dan, Let's hey, Bud. I guess I'm I

1107
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 1: guess I'm an old get off my lawn guy too.

1108
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 1: Because I'm still the same way as you, only to

1109
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 1: realize that there's a landscaper and he belongs there, so

1110
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 1: he's supposed to be on the line. I don't get

1111
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 1: why Kershaw gets pulled out. How many times did we

1112
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 1: watched him go through games where you want him to

1113
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:48,479
Speaker 1: pull him and he doesn't, you know, in the middle

1114
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 1: of a big game. It's not a big game. I

1115
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: mean he's going these lights out. I mean he's won everything,

1116
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 1: He's won the championships, he's got the MVP to Sidy Young.

1117
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 1: The only thing he doesn't have is a perfect game,

1118
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 1: you know. I just think you should have let him

1119
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 1: in well before I go there, and I got one.

1120
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 1: I have a new name for Anthony Davis. Okay, it's

1121
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 1: pepsid A d okay, thank you, mo. What did we have?

1122
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 1: Day to David? Anthony Day to Davis? Four to six?

1123
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 1: Somebody else wrote in that it should be a TV

1124
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 1: d oh adm D. Fritzie could use some pepsi right now,

1125
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 1: I really could something. Yeah, I'm kind of backed up

1126
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 1: a little bit. I guess a lot of broccoli. As

1127
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 1: soon as as soon as we go to commercial break,

1128
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 1: Fritzie goes right to the bathroom, because I'm pretty sure

1129
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:42,600
Speaker 1: it's just one thing as opposed to another. But you

1130
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 1: still gotta you gotta play it safe. Do you have

1131
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 1: enough energy? Are you in enough? Too much pain? You

1132
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 1: can't do your Sports Center your mock tis? Oh I

1133
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: got I got plenty of energy. It's just kind of,

1134
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 1: you know, some uncomfortable. Okay, you're ready to do your

1135
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 1: sports entered ties. I am, okay, all right, here's Todd

1136
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 1: battling through. Whatever you're battling through, gets some guests. Okay, okay,

1137
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 1: here we go, coming up on Sports Center, Tree magnifique,

1138
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 1: How young in the Hornets stung the Hornets? How young

1139
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 1: in the Hornets stung the Hornets? They're off their bet storder.

1140
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 1: I don't know why I wrote that one. Tray Magnifique,

1141
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 1: How Young and the Hawks stung the Hornets? A bridge

1142
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 1: is too far? Why Miles was feeling down in the mouthpiece?

1143
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 1: Spurned san Antonio's out? But how much longer will Zion be?

1144
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 1: Almost perfect? How a Dodger's own skipper broke up the

1145
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 1: no no back up just a minute, Aretha Mayfield, there's

1146
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 1: something to say to the Brown's front office. The Raiders

1147
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 1: keeping their car parked for a while on the strip.

1148
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 1: His name is Luca. He might miss the first Jazz

1149
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 1: game also, if not now, then consuming shoot up soon

1150
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 1: for Brooklyn. And it's exactly two weeks away, which NFL

1151
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 1: teams are rolling the dice with their draft board and

1152
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 1: who's taking safe bets. So mock us all you want.

1153
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 1: Just respect us. It's no gamble. We'll keep you informed.

1154
01:00:56,800 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 1: Sports Center next, you rallied there. Yeah, you're rallied there.

1155
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 1: And look you're playing her too. Yeah that's a little uncomfortable. Yeah,

1156
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 1: you're a warrior, you know. I see I left you in.

1157
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 1: I could have taken you. Appreciate you, like in the

1158
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 1: first hour of the show. Yeah, Paul, you imagine like

1159
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:17,640
Speaker 1: a Major League baseball player came out of the game. Sid,

1160
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 1: I had too much broccoli last night. I could not

1161
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 1: finish the nine innings. Yeah, I'm sorry. I Fledge Lynch.

1162
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:25,479
Speaker 1: Had I had to come out, it would be awesome. Yeah,

1163
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 1: all right, we'll come back dnp CD, DMP Fledge