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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of The

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Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from

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Speaker 1: this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment laugh stravaganza. Yeah, so,

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Speaker 1: without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist. Katie. It's

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Speaker 1: a full Crack reunion because we are thrilled to be

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Speaker 1: drunk for this dystopia, which I believe you can pre

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Speaker 1: order still. Yes, he is also one of the hosts

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Speaker 1: of the podcast Big Feats, which, if I'm reading this

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Speaker 1: officially endorsed by Big Feet. He's our former coor Cracked,

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Speaker 1: co creator of the Cracked podcast. Welcome back to the show,

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Speaker 1: Jason Pardon.

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Speaker 2: Now, is it okay for me to do my fake

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Speaker 2: Italian accent that I do? Sometimes? I don't know, I

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Speaker 2: realize there are some accents that are inappropriate to keep.

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Speaker 3: I mean deeply as as a one non Italian person

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Speaker 3: living in Italy, I'd be deeply offended.

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Speaker 2: Okay, then I won't because it's one that's so much

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Speaker 2: fun that I don't know if I'm doing an actual

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Speaker 2: Italian accent or if I'm doing a Hollywood accent of

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Speaker 2: actors who themselves were in no way Italian but just

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Speaker 2: and did not have a language glos here it's like,

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Speaker 2: what are you breaking my balls?

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Speaker 1: Yes, there it is there.

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Speaker 3: It is the concept of Italian accent is immigrants from

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Speaker 3: Naples who came to the US, and that's it.

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Speaker 1: And Chris Pratt's interpretation of Mario. Those are the two

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Speaker 1: kind of key texts, the cornerstones.

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Speaker 3: He's a national icon in Italy. Actually people don't think that,

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Speaker 3: but like Chris Pratt Poplar.

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Speaker 1: All right, Jason, how are you doing? Where are you

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Speaker 1: coming to us from? Undisclosed?

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Speaker 2: Sure, I'm in the state of Tennessee. If you want

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Speaker 2: to try to find me, I'm sure. There's there's one

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Speaker 2: guy on TikTok who can locate anybody just from any

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Speaker 2: photo they take. If you want to show up at

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Speaker 2: my house, I'm sure you can do it.

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Speaker 1: But it has he do it, like even if you're inside,

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Speaker 1: he can do it.

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Speaker 2: Well, probably not but if you're standing like just in

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Speaker 2: your yard, he will take the sliver of sky behind you.

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Speaker 2: He can identify exactly down to your address, and that's

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Speaker 2: his whole his whole bit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy and terrifying. Katie is coming to us

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Speaker 1: from Europe, not Italy.

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Speaker 3: Though, this time from Barcelona.

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Speaker 1: Hey, well well done on the pronunciation key it's bart Yeah,

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Speaker 1: now that feels like it should be offensive.

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Speaker 3: It probably is. Yeah, Okay, you know I'm in for it.

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Speaker 1: What is something from your search history that's revealing about

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Speaker 4: The very last search that I did just last night

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Speaker 4: was quote the Winter Palace Wikipedia, the Tsar's ancient palace.

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Speaker 4: It is the setting of a show on Hulu called

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Speaker 4: The Greats, which is why I was googling it, and

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Speaker 4: I went in a deep dive on Russian history, which

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Speaker 4: is always hilarious, just like the show. I'm amused by

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Speaker 4: the buffoonery of our friends from Russia.

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Speaker 1: I don't know the story that well, what was what

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Speaker 1: was going down in the Winter Palace?

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Speaker 5: Is that?

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Speaker 6: Where?

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Speaker 7: What wasn't going down in the Winter Palace? Jack?

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Speaker 5: Am I right?

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Speaker 7: Scott chess bump.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well there is one.

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Speaker 4: There wasn't anything especially great about the Winter Palace Wikipedia article,

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Speaker 4: other than the fact that apparently two I think it

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Speaker 4: was two hundred thousand people died building. It seems like

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Speaker 4: which seems like it's like.

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Speaker 1: That seems like a whole city.

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Speaker 7: I don't know, but did you see it? Pretty fucking

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Speaker 7: worth it, you know what I'm saying. It looks pretty good.

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Speaker 4: I don't remember been now more in it, and.

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Speaker 7: They maybe could get more of those little onion domes

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no, the onion domes. Those are classic. That's

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Speaker 4: classic Moscow. This is Saint Petersburg. Baby, I know I've

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Speaker 4: never been. I've never been to Russia. I studied Russian

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Speaker 1: But ever still language. You study Russian language?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Wow, the accent on that is not great here.

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Speaker 4: I was expecting you to be like it was fantastic.

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Speaker 4: I gotta I gotta tread carefully, Sophia. Are you from Russia?

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Speaker 7: I'm from but I'm fluent in Russian. Yeah, that's my

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Speaker 4: Do you know my favorite word in Russian is no

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Speaker 4: what kaladilnik.

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Speaker 1: It means refrigerator. At least that's what I remember pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: That's a good word.

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Speaker 4: So I'm listening to an audible, a two volume biography

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Speaker 4: of Joseph Stalin ship not a very nice gentleman, Joseph Stalin.

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Speaker 7: Wait, really, you're like my fucking grandpa was like, those

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Speaker 7: are exactly the fucking things that would absorb him for hours.

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Speaker 4: Yes, it's it's it's absorbable. It's absorbed me for eighty hours. Now,

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Speaker 4: can check it out. Yeah, and there's one left left

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Speaker 4: to come. It ends on a cliffhanger. Guys, Hitler's about

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Speaker 4: to invade the Soviet Union, so I can't wait for

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Speaker 4: three it's.

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Speaker 7: Gonna work out.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think they're going to be.

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Speaker 4: I think there's gonna be a lot of unhappiness for

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Speaker 4: decades to come. But yeah, I think that that that

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Speaker 4: particular invasion things work out.

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Speaker 7: I think Hitler, that guy is just like a flash

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Speaker 7: in the pan. Like not to ruin it for you,

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Speaker 7: it's just it's not I.

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Speaker 1: Mean, it kind of was, but you have like a

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Speaker 1: brief rise. By the way, I feel like you shouting

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Speaker 1: out Russia's word for refrigerator, I feel like the English

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Speaker 1: language where like the English language really went off on

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Speaker 1: the word refrigerator. That's pretty good like that. I feel

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Speaker 1: like maybe maybe there was like a Cold War competitiveness

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Speaker 1: that was happening there. But refrigerator is yeah, I kind

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Speaker 1: of like it. That's a cool word. Yeah. It sounds

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Speaker 1: like a brand name or something like. It sounds like

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Speaker 1: it was workshopped, right.

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Speaker 7: It sounds like it has a motor.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know.

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Speaker 5: What I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Do you think just sounds like it makes cold?

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Speaker 4: Well, that's what it means, right, It doesn't mean cold

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Speaker 4: or something.

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Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, but I just mean I feel

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Speaker 7: like refrigerator doesn't make you think of cold. It makes

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Speaker 7: you think of motor. Yeah, keeping it.

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Speaker 1: Cold, frigid, throwing frigid in there, which is a good

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Speaker 1: evocative way to word for cold. So I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think they really I think they saw what Russia

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Speaker 1: better than ice chest. I think was what they called it,

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Speaker 1: ice automatic ice chest.

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Speaker 7: Ice chest has like a chalice vibe.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah it does.

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Speaker 7: You know, like I'm gonna sit on my ice chest

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Speaker 7: with my jealous of mead. My favorite Russian word borgia.

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Speaker 7: It is how you say ladybug. And it means God's

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Speaker 7: Little Cow, and I'm obsessed with it. My favorite isn't

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Speaker 7: that the cutest thing.

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Speaker 5: You've ever heard? Are you just are you just dying

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Speaker 7: Because I'm dying every time I think about it.

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Speaker 1: God, Yeah, look at that little guy. So fucking cute

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Speaker 1: and also not gendered the way that I guess it is.

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Speaker 1: It is because cols are girlies. Yeah, never mind, I'm

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Speaker 1: against it. God's Little cal is so cute.

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Speaker 7: I always thought that, like, if I was gonna like

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Speaker 7: be somebody that opened like a I don't know, like

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Speaker 7: a kindergarten or something, that's what I would call it.

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Speaker 1: God's Little Cow.

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Speaker 7: Be like that is the cutest. All of the kids

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Speaker 4: That's amazing, like a preschool, a Ladybug Ladybug preschool. But

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Speaker 4: there's probably many of them, so it really works. I

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Speaker 4: think it's a great name.

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Speaker 5: Thank you so much, Scott.

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Speaker 1: Scott. What is something you think is overrated? Massages? Massages?

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Speaker 4: I do not like giving massages, and I do not

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Speaker 4: like receiving massages, and they make me feel intensely uncomfortable,

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Speaker 4: and the fact that so many people love them so

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Speaker 4: much is a total mystery.

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Speaker 7: To me, have you ever had a good one.

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Speaker 4: I think I've had some some good ones. Yeah, like

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Speaker 4: on my honeymoon and expensive couples massage and like grease

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Speaker 4: or whatever that we paid lots and lots of money for.

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Speaker 4: I found it uncomfortable and akin to torture the entire time.

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Speaker 7: Well, money's not really how you judge it, because anyone

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Speaker 7: can just be like, oh, you're in a hotel, fucking

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Speaker 7: pay me a thousand dollars to touch you. That didn't

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Speaker 7: come out right. But I just kind of want to know,

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Speaker 7: do you get like the light kind, do you get

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Speaker 7: the deep kind? And do you think when they touch

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Speaker 7: you it's like too much pressure or too little or

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Speaker 7: do you just not like people touching you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's all of the above. I've tried more

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Speaker 4: than once. I've had the light massages. I've had those

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Speaker 4: deep tissue massages that leave you feeling ill for days.

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Speaker 4: Like anytime they warn you ahead of time, like oh, hey,

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Speaker 4: this is this is gonna you're gonna just feel sick

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Speaker 4: and stuffed up for the next forty eight hours because

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Speaker 4: we're gonna rub so many toxins out of your flesh

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Speaker 4: and send it forcing through your your system, out of.

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Speaker 7: Your nose and drink a lot of water.

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Speaker 1: So they do tell you that.

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Speaker 7: I'm not no one, no one ever does myself included.

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Speaker 7: And then you're like, oh, why do I feel that nice?

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Speaker 7: I'm like, well, bitch, they told you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like to go from massage directly to just

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Speaker 1: drinking a giant a train to of a cold brew.

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Speaker 7: Oh my god, you're the healthiest. That's how the voice

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Speaker 7: came around, and that's why I sound like this, Scott.

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Speaker 7: I think it's bold of you to admit that you

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Speaker 7: hate massages, because I think a ton of people do,

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Speaker 7: but they won't say anything because they're like, people think

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Speaker 7: I'm insane. It's like when someone says they don't like

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Speaker 7: wacam on.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean it's a little more selfish to say

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Speaker 4: you hate giving massages. I think that's probably more, you know,

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Speaker 4: for that total you're a master.

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Speaker 7: I was going to come back to this podcast for that.

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Speaker 4: What's what's like? What is it a massage giving? What

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Speaker 4: is what is like? When is it okay to be annoyed?

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Speaker 4: Like how many minutes?

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Speaker 7: Because you can feel it, You can feel when the

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Speaker 7: person giving it is annoyed, so it's always done bad,

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Speaker 7: even that three minutes that they give and I'm like,

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Speaker 7: you know what, take your fucking lobster ass hands out

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Speaker 7: of here. I don't this pity massage.

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Speaker 1: They're just giving like mitten style massages, four figures together

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Speaker 1: and then.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, the fucking zoidberging my fucking neck.

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Speaker 5: I don't want that.

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Speaker 7: Fuck that, Scott, is that your style to do a

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Speaker 7: bad job?

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Speaker 5: Popsicles? I've been obsessed. I so I bike everywhere in

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Speaker 5: They're they're They're not sponsoring me. They're just Halo tops

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Speaker 6: I was looking at Rocket pops is doing like some

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Speaker 6: Like a rocket pop, Like those things used to rule

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think. I think popsicles maybe is a smaller

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Speaker 1: Have we been improving on popsicles? Yeah, it seems like

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Speaker 1: we have like the the Halo Top Pineapple pop popsicle,

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Speaker 5: There's also good pop and then make like a mango

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Speaker 6: So yeah, Total Wine is making margarita pops and I

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Speaker 6: children give that they got a mango margarita, pineapple, strawberry

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Speaker 6: Water frozen margarita pops, I don't know, but I want

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Speaker 1: Every time I've tried to, like do the homemade popsicles like,

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Speaker 6: You know what makes the best homemade pops Jack kool Aid.

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Speaker 6: and like maybe about halfway stick your popsicle in, freeze

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Speaker 1: And we're back and Ted Cruz, I think we've talked.

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Speaker 1: We've checked him with him before on his journey of

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Speaker 5: Hands unless it's bud light.

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Speaker 1: But it's clear.

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Speaker 6: Alcohol it is meant to be consumed quietly with no talking, yes.

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Speaker 1: due to station policy because I'm not allowed to drink

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Speaker 1: four point four So the beer that he's talking about

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Speaker 5: That's amazing.

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Speaker 6: I think Ted Cruz was having flashbacks to his college

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Speaker 6: Look how I want drink this beer? Like yeah, watch

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Speaker 6: me fit in This Is How You Do It right?

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Speaker 1: Watch right?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, he's a that's a character I like. Craig Mason,

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Speaker 5: Ted's crazy college days. I've seen this thread where I

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Speaker 5: can't even remember any specifics, but just how crazy he

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Speaker 5: But maybe if we had, he wouldn't be here constantly

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Speaker 6: A greasy film on everything. My friend Eric dubbed the

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Speaker 6: substance cruz. See are uh z rhymes with scuz? Now

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Speaker 6: there's cruz on my TV. Craig Mason, January tenth, twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 5: More delightful stories like that.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: He also made Chernobyl, which was a favorite of ours. Craigman.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, a good show, very good show.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, just moving down the conservative lineup, we've

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Speaker 1: was putting his apartment up for sale, and the price

441
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Speaker 1: point he's suggesting is six point five million dollars and

442
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 1: so no one has brought it yet bought it yet,

443
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,679
Speaker 1: probably because first of all, it's Rudy Giuliani's apartment, so

444
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 1: it's like trying to sell a murder house. It might

445
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 1: have actually like been additive when he was America's mayor,

446
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:08,360
Speaker 1: but now things are wildly different, obviously, but it's it's

447
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 1: being listed by the so called broker to the fallen Stars,

448
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 1: who also had to sell off Bernie Madoff's penthouse. What

449
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 1: a title, I know. It's just this person is like

450
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 1: specializes in selling off the homes of people who made

451
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 1: their millions in Ponzi schemes, and now Rudy Giuliani. But

452
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 1: people are pointing out that like it doesn't doesn't even

453
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 1: make sense, Like he's asking for like way more than

454
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Speaker 1: it's worth. Another unit in the same building that's basically

455
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: the same size currently on the market for two point

456
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 1: eight seven five million, and this is on the market

457
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Speaker 1: for six point five Wow, the last sale in the

458
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,400
Speaker 1: building was three point seven.

459
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Speaker 5: Does he think that like the celebrity boost. Yeah, we'll

460
00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 5: put it there. That's wild.

461
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Speaker 6: It's desperation because he knows he's has giant legal fees

462
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 6: coming up. There's no money coming in from anywhere. Everybody

463
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 6: who's even halfly intelligent Coutock ties with him, so there's

464
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 6: no I know, Trump's not helping him. Apparently he asks

465
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Speaker 6: for some help Trumps like get out of here.

466
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,640
Speaker 5: Well Trump does not money either, so that makes sense.

467
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 1: Right, I Mean what one theory is that he's actually

468
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 1: doing that. He's putting his house on the market to

469
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 1: like show that he is in financial straits and like

470
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Speaker 1: can't pay any of his lawyers or whatever, and like

471
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Speaker 1: I think there's like some legal reasons for that, while

472
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 1: also like he doesn't want to sell the apartment and

473
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Speaker 1: so he's basically putting it on the market at like

474
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 1: an irrational like a completely unreasonable listing.

475
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Speaker 5: Will buy it?

476
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 1: Interesting, Yeah, that's kind of the idea. It's like that

477
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,679
Speaker 1: he wants to argue he's like close to broke in

478
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,679
Speaker 1: order to excuse the fact that he hasn't shared discovery

479
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 1: documents in the case brought against him by Smartmatic, the

480
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: election technology company that sued him and Fox News in

481
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one over false claims of election fraud and

482
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 1: that like this way, no one will pay in order

483
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 1: to have like verifiable proof that you're broke and therefore

484
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 1: immune from certain legal responsibilities. And so in an earlier case,

485
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: he actually automatically lost his defamation case in which he

486
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 1: was sued by two election workers from Georgia for failing

487
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 1: to turn over evidence, and in that case, he was

488
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 1: also slapped with a one hundred and thirty two thousand

489
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: dollars bill for legal fees. So it's helpful for him

490
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,400
Speaker 1: to be like, I'm in duress. I can't pay all

491
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 1: any of this stuff. Please leave me, leave me alone,

492
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 1: Please have pity on me, sir, And it seems like

493
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: nobody's buying it.

494
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Speaker 6: Essentially, it's nice to see people get what they deserve,

495
00:26:58,040 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 6: even if it's just so little.

496
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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's nice karma.

497
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: I'm really I can't wait to see the behind the

498
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 1: scenes of the mugshot, like how Trump's mugshot came about,

499
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: but also like what the messaging was to because like

500
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: Rudy seemed to have the same like be tough and

501
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: like angry face as Trump did, but like I just

502
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 1: want to know like what went into all of those photos?

503
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: Because he also looks just like a a corrupt businessman

504
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: who just got caught.

505
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,360
Speaker 6: And you think they gave him a three to two

506
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 6: one countdown or I like smile click yeah he heads up,

507
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 6: or where they're just like and stand here click next,

508
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 6: like wait, But because I feel like he would have

509
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 6: tried to, like, I don't know, appear less guilty.

510
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, they both looked so guilty. He looked really guilty.

511
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: He was giving off like the subtext of his picture.

512
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: The first word in the subtext of his picture is guilty.

513
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,479
Speaker 1: He's just like, Oh, I would have gotten away with

514
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 1: it too.

515
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 5: Now, I'm like, has anyone ever smiled in their mugshot pictures?

516
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:10,199
Speaker 1: Oh?

517
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 6: For sure, Lindsay Lohan, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. There's

518
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 6: a bunch of like celebrity ladies are constantly like, listen,

519
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 6: you won't catch me with a bad photo.

520
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 5: I don't care. Where is this my good side? Okay,

521
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 5: now book me.

522
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 1: But in that earlier case, like the judge literally wrote,

523
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 1: donning a cloak of victimization may play well on a

524
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: public stage to certain audiences, but in a court of law,

525
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: this performance has served only to subvert the normal process

526
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: of discovery in a straightforward defamation case and then you know,

527
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: found him guilty and charged him one hundred and thirty

528
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: two thousand dollars legal fees. So it's not I don't

529
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: I also don't know, like what the theory is that,

530
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: like someone's going to feel sorry for him that his

531
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: six point five million dollar apartment isn't selling. Like that

532
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: doesn't feel a great strategy for making people like causing

533
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: people to feel sympathy for you.

534
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, listen, it's all what else could he possibly try?

535
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 6: It was like, you know, bad housing markets totally, there's

536
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 6: some people who could empathize with the difficulty there because

537
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 6: he can't. What are you gonna use like his family, no,

538
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 6: his job situation. You did that here, rich Wakey.

539
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 8: What else you got to make empathize? But you try

540
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 8: to buy my house? That's yeah, it's an interesting strategy,

541
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 8: all right. And finally, let's talk about the pandemic two

542
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 8: point zero. This is a new conspiracy theory. You're probably

543
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 8: starting to see because Trump went on a long rant

544
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 8: about how left wing lunatics are trying very hard to

545
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 8: bring back COVID lockdowns and mandates, specifically to steal the

546
00:29:53,960 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 8: twenty twenty four election naturally, And yeah, I don't know,

547
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 8: this kind of came out. It seemed like he came

548
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 8: out of nowhere, but apparently.

549
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: It's been it's been a thing that's going going around

550
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: for a little while. First of all, I just want

551
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,959
Speaker 1: to note that under the video that he posted on X,

552
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: like the two stories that they're linking off to that

553
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: like disprove his claims are actually like approaching the debunking

554
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: from the perspective of like, actually, Trump's the one who

555
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: started the lockdowns, which I get the logic of that,

556
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:37,719
Speaker 1: like that even his even somebody who thinks the pandemic

557
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 1: was like a scam, will be convinced by that. But

558
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 1: it does just feel like, I don't know, I'm I

559
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: feel like I'm seeing that more and more, just the

560
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: embracing of the logic of like, yeah, well we didn't

561
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: need to go that hard and everybody overreacted right, like

562
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: we can all agree on that.

563
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, from folks who seemingly before we're like, oh no,

564
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 6: I'm definitely like mask on and stuff. It's been weird,

565
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 6: like a weird turn of events to watch folks be

566
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 6: like and I'll never go back again, and I'm just

567
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 6: at a convention. I just still can't understand why wearing

568
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 6: a mask is seen as such an inconvenience. It's so easy,

569
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 6: It hardly does anything. It make you spell your own breath,

570
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 6: which you know is nice. If it's bad smelling, you

571
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 6: should know, you should you should be aware of what's

572
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 6: happening in that area of your body.

573
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 5: It's also great if you're like on the subway and

574
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 5: you're practicing lines for I don't know, an off Broadway

575
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 5: show you're about to do in a week, and you

576
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 5: don't want to look like a crazy person. You can

577
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 5: put a mask on and no one will be the wiser.

578
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 5: It's great.

579
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,719
Speaker 6: You're having a bad day, looking not great, throw a

580
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 6: mask on. Guess what Now you're mysterious. Who's that girl?

581
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: What she's up to?

582
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's honestly such a help. It's weird.

583
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 6: It's especially knowing that the numbers are going up and

584
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 6: I really feel like folks are like, I'm not going

585
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 6: back inside.

586
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: Screw of you.

587
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's very funny that, like that's the mindset when

588
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 5: it's like the opposition none of us wanted to do this.

589
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 5: It feels like the argument is like someone's planning this

590
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 5: and they want to do this and I'm never going back.

591
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: It's like none of us enjoyed the lockdown, right, Yeah

592
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: that was not nobody's like pro pandemic. But that is

593
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: like how the argument.

594
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 5: Is being exactly structured?

595
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: Yeah structured? Is that like we're for so anyways, they're

596
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: like the There's been rumblings among right wing conspiracy theorists

597
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: for weeks now, basically following suggestions from public health officials

598
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: the people who are at higher risk may want to

599
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: wear masks in public following a rise in COVID cases,

600
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: and some colleges and companies, including the movie studio Lionsgate,

601
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: even reinstituted mask mandates Briefly. They are claiming that, like

602
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: a countrywide lockdown is coming this fall, and you know,

603
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: Alex Jones shockingly is responsible for this. He's claiming that

604
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: on August eighteenth, he claimed that a TSA whistleblower informed

605
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: him that mask mandates will return in September, followed by

606
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: a full blown lockdown in December. Called an anonymous Border

607
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: Patrol agent who confirmed the oddly specific claims and said

608
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: that we would imminently return to full COVID protocol of

609
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: twenty twenty twenty twenty one, and then perhaps because this

610
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 1: is a total bullshit, he also gave himself an out,

611
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: adding that the lockdown may not actually happen because he

612
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: had exposed it on the show.

613
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 5: Oh that's why think about Jones for saving us all. Yeah,

614
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 5: another lockdown?

615
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: Crazy, I know, But people on social media kind of

616
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: picked up on his claims, suggesting that the new COVID

617
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: surge was somehow connected to Trump's indictments. So this, this

618
00:33:55,200 --> 00:34:00,719
Speaker 1: is like the social media brain malfunction where like everything

619
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: like there's you just assume like everything is happening to

620
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: the too. This like only two or three people that

621
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: you're able to. It's like main character syndrome of like

622
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: following world events, we're like, oh, well, because COVID's going

623
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: back up, that must be related to Trump being indicted.

624
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 1: Like you just want to connect to the dots on

625
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: things that have nothing to do with one another because

626
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: your brain is only so big and can only you know,

627
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: hold so much information.

628
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 6: Oh man, I even know what to say about like

629
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 6: these conspiracy theorists, who I think when anyone is controlling

630
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 6: the spread of a pandemic, do you know how it

631
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 6: would be so epic if somebody could, They're like, Okay,

632
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 6: dates coming up. I'm going to drop the pandemic right

633
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,760
Speaker 6: here in the same way I drop a music video.

634
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 6: I'm going to make sure this many people get it

635
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 6: so that we go into lockdown.

636
00:34:58,280 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 5: There's just no possible.

637
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 6: Conceivable way to start time releasing a pandemic or a disease,

638
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 6: and then on top of that to then think how

639
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 6: does this help and or hurt Trump? Right, Like the

640
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 6: math is a mathing, like either we are insider, we're not.

641
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,760
Speaker 6: I don't know what effect that has on on whatever

642
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 6: Trump is going, other than maybe it would delay his

643
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 6: trial for a little.

644
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: Bit, right, Yeah, Yeah, I think the main thing that

645
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 1: is challenge is a challenge for Trump is that he

646
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,720
Speaker 1: is like the most indicted human being in the history

647
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: of the United States, right, is also trying to run

648
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: for president while while dealing with that.

649
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:41,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, the hubers on that guy amazing, it's wild wild

650
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 5: and paid a bail Bonceman too.

651
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah. Steve Bannon's podcast co host Natalie Winters went

652
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: viral for posting out of context screenshots of Department of

653
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: Veterans Affairs purchase orders, suggesting that it was proof that

654
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 1: the US government was buying up equipment for a planned pandemic,

655
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: and the equipment was testing supplies and computer equipment, totaling

656
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: seven million dollars, which is like, to put it in perspective,

657
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 1: like they spent I think four trillion dollars on the pandemic,

658
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: like across all all of the different things that they

659
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: had to invest in.

660
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 5: I wish I could just post whatever and be fine

661
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 5: with it.

662
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 1: I know that's what they've discovered.

663
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:30,240
Speaker 5: Truly, Truly, they like the truth is suggestive.

664
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: Right, whatever the fuck you want, and it will be

665
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: so and then so just like it's a it's a

666
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: good study in how these stories kind of happened, because

667
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 1: then you know it's it. It becomes this thing where

668
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,240
Speaker 1: it's like all these dumb little like one person pointed

669
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: to a suburban target store was putting in more pickup

670
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 1: only spots in their parking lot. Like so it's like

671
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 1: all these ridiculous statements being made on various outlets. But

672
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: then The Daily Telegraph published a op ed warning about

673
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 1: Biden's lockdown plot, citing Biden administrations buying COVID equipment and

674
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 1: hiring pandemic safety protocol officers not to mention the Return

675
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: of the Mask mandates at the Lionsgate Film Studios in

676
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. So it's like, that's how they launder their

677
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: bullshit from you know, a couple Twitter posts and you

678
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 1: know what, Steve Bannon's co host says to being in

679
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: an op ed as like, and this is evidence.

680
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 6: I like that they were like Targets putting in more spots.

681
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 6: It must mean the pandemic. So listen, Target do that

682
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 6: because it's so easy to order online and then you're

683
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 6: not tempted to order inside Target. This Target delivery slash

684
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 6: pickup is one of the greatest inventions ever. No more

685
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 6: are you perusing the aisles getting lost in pillows you

686
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 6: definitely don't need twelve more of. You can just order

687
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 6: and then they bring it to you, and then you

688
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 6: can go home with the money you intended to spend

689
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 6: still your pocket.

690
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 5: It's beautiful.

691
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 6: I promise it's not a sign of forthcoming pandemic lockdown.

692
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,919
Speaker 5: But it does feel like it Probably loses Target money though,

693
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 5: because then you're not spending that money on ten pellows

694
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 5: you don't need. It probably hurts Target a little bit.

695
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 6: But also I'd consistently coming back, so I don't there

696
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 6: you go.

697
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, it lowers the friction. That's what they call like

698
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: the difficulty of buying something if you just like go

699
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: hit the button, show up, and someone arrives and puts

700
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:31,240
Speaker 1: it in the back of your car.

701
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 6: I will say, whatever AI is operating their system to

702
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 6: you has gotten pretty good at being like, hey, this

703
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 6: is on sale. You could just add this to your

704
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 6: cart right now.

705
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well that's the other thing like they've perfected, like

706
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: the AI and the you know, web design and all

707
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: the things for like our little skinner box you know,

708
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 1: smartphones that we all live basically live inside, so that

709
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: they can sell you more. And actually that's what our

710
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: next story is about out, which is kind of the

711
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 1: reason that Taco Bell and a bunch of other companies

712
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 1: want to go cash lists. So yeah, let's let's take

713
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: a quick break and we'll come right back and talk

714
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: about that. And we're back, and just a few things

715
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: I wanted to hit so like that. There is this

716
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: one experiment where they figured out people who were particularly

717
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 1: susceptible to placebos, and they then like during the course

718
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: of a experiment, gave them a thing that like blocked

719
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 1: the opioid receptors in the brain. And the placebo effect

720
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: cut off, which.

721
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 3: Means, I mean it's that's super weird.

722
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's weird, but it's basically it makes sense when

723
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: you realize when you think about the fact that, like

724
00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 1: the brain is like its own pharmacy. It's creating the dopamine.

725
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 1: You know, the like add medication and stuff like that,

726
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: or you know, they're illegal drugs that cause your brain

727
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: to like make more dopamine that like make you feel

728
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: even better. But your brain is creating its own dopamine

729
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: on its own schedule.

730
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 3: My brain is my favorite dealer.

731
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, your brain is its own like drug dealer slash pharmacist.

732
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 1: And you know that, then doctors get involved when like

733
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: it's not doing the job that it needs to do.

734
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: But you know that what is happening in like that,

735
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: This study would suggest that what's happening when people experience

736
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: the placebo effect is that your brain is producing the

737
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: actual chemical that the medication is supposed to be producing.

738
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 1: It just didn't need the medication to actually be in

739
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: the pill to get you to to to get the

740
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 1: brain to do the thing that your body kind of

741
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 1: knows it needs in that moment. So I mean, from

742
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: that perspective, like being susceptible to placebo is such is

743
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: such an amazing like superpower where it's just like, oh, yeah,

744
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: my body and brain can just like make these medications for.

745
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 3: Me, right, And it's not I think it's important to

746
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 3: note it's not like gullibility. It being able to get

747
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 3: the effect of a placebo is not that like you

748
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 3: are stupid or gullible. There's like a study on seeing like, oh,

749
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 3: are people who are easily hypnotized also like susceptible to placebo?

750
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,240
Speaker 3: And there was no connection there either. It just seems

751
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 3: to be a thing that like affects almost everyone in

752
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 3: terms of being able to you know, benefit or suffer

753
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,240
Speaker 3: from the placebo or no Cibo effect.

754
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, we understand. We understand so little of this because

755
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 2: listen listening to what you guys say, think about how

756
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 2: difficult it is to study this, and how difficult it

757
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 2: is to set up an effective trial that perfectly filters

758
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 2: out every possibly confounding thing that could be some form

759
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 2: of placebo or no Cibo effect. This is why our

760
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 2: mental health medications have barely improved in the last fifty

761
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 2: years or something like that. It is unbelievably difficult to

762
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 2: nail down the effectiveness of something like an antidepressant or

763
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 2: an anti anxiety because again, placebos work really well for anxiety.

764
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 2: When you have somebody telling you, well, my anti anxiety pills,

765
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 2: I go work in my garden, they're not lying. Like

766
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 2: repetitive motion, exercise, sunlight. Those are physical things that affect

767
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,439
Speaker 2: all of those biological reactions to anxiety. They're not being

768
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 2: a hippie. And you know, I don't you sound like

769
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,280
Speaker 2: a scientologist. We start ranting about how ineffective these medications are,

770
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 2: but the truth is you get about seven of the

771
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 2: same effect from a passebo for mild depression because of

772
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,919
Speaker 2: course you do it. You know, if you've got some

773
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 2: whatever fancy t that's supposed to really you know, to

774
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 2: calm you down, just the ceremony of making it, and

775
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 2: given the ceremony of making it, sitting down, drinking something hot,

776
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 2: drinking it slowly, there's yeah, that can have most of

777
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 2: the effect of a medication without the terrible side effects.

778
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 2: The issue is that is such an incredibly dangerous thing

779
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 2: for people to hear because some people who have very

780
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 2: severe symptoms, who definitely need prescription medication, they tend to

781
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 2: be the ones who like, see, I don't, I don't

782
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 2: need that voodoo. It is incredibly difficult to nail down

783
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 2: the effectiveness of any of these because, as you just said,

784
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 2: like that, we even now have doubts about exactly what's

785
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 2: placebo and what's just no treatment at all. Depression is

786
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 2: just like a lot of those things we mentioned earlier.

787
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 2: It cats better and think about all the factors in

788
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 2: a person's life that can improve their mood. Yeah, it's like,

789
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 2: we have three months, three months on these sugar pills,

790
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 2: and my depression went away. Also I got a different

791
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,760
Speaker 2: job and the boss that terrorized me is no longer

792
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 2: in my life. And also my chronic knee injury stopped hurting,

793
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 2: so I didn't have the chronic pain weighing on me.

794
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 2: It's like, which of the four million factors in a

795
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 2: human life caused your depression to go away? And us

796
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 2: people who to sound smart, who like to say, well,

797
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 2: it's all just brain chemicals, it's all just serotonin or

798
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 2: whatever that is that is boiling it down. That's simplifying

799
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 2: it so much as to make it.

800
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: Wrong, right.

801
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:47,280
Speaker 3: I mean, it's like it's true that it's like all

802
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:53,279
Speaker 3: brain stuff, but your brain responds very well to your environments,

803
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 3: so environmental things are going to have a massive effect

804
00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 3: on your brain. Like you know, your your general habits,

805
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 3: what your life is like, what you're eating, what you're doing,

806
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 3: what you're thinking. All these things just kind of like

807
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 3: form this like cyclone that can really affect your state

808
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 3: of mind. It's also really difficult with the studies on

809
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 3: medication for like say, depression, anxiety, et cetera, because the

810
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 3: like everyone's brain is very different, so the heterogeneity effects

811
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 3: in these studies are just very hard to compensate for,

812
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 3: Like a medication that works really well for someone may

813
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 3: not work at all for another person even though they

814
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 3: both have depression. Because one person's depression and another person's depression.

815
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 3: It's not like a you know, simple like disease. It's

816
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 3: not like a broken bone where it's like, okay, you

817
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 3: can kind of like the procedure for healing a broken

818
00:45:56,600 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 3: bone for one person another person is generally someone similar.

819
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,439
Speaker 3: But for something like depression, it's like you have a

820
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 3: totally different thing going on from one person to the next,

821
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 3: given how complicated the brain is and how like broad

822
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,800
Speaker 3: spectrum something like depression is in terms of what's causing

823
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 3: it what's going on? And I mean the same can

824
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 3: be said for a lot of like non psychological disorders

825
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 3: as well, Like there are a lot of diseases where

826
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 3: it's like, well, treatment for one person seems to work

827
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 3: before another person does not work at all because their

828
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 3: bodies are different and their systems are different. So it's

829
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 3: like a huge challenge in medicine.

830
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 2: Even if they were genetically the same, which they're not.

831
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 2: Are their diets different, are their sleep patterns different? Is

832
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 2: their home life different, is their social lives different? Do

833
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 2: they have different numbers of friends? All those things can

834
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,240
Speaker 2: impact how your brain works exactly.

835
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 3: I mean, your brain structure changes over time based on

836
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 3: your environment. It's not like you're born sort of with

837
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 3: a baby brain and then it goes like it's genetically

838
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 3: programmed to turn into an adult brain. Like you're born

839
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 3: with the very plastic brain that responds incredibly sensitively to

840
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 3: your environment and what happens to you.

841
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, the two examples that jumped out to me this

842
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: time doing the research on the side of like just

843
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: a straightforward placebo effect, like this is a pill causing

844
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: you to do causing your body to do a thing,

845
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: it's still like the pill color things is still like

846
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,959
Speaker 1: so mind blowing to me. Like they gave a group

847
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 1: of medical students two new drugs, one a sedative and

848
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 1: the other stimulant, and like they were given either one

849
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 1: or two blue or pink tablets, and the tablets were

850
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: all inert they were sugar pills, but the students' responses

851
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: on a questionnaire indicated the red tablets where pink tablets

852
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: tended to act as stimulants, while the blue ones acted

853
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: as depressants, and two tablets had more effect than one.

854
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: And it it's not it doesn't really make sense, but

855
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: like you, you can't boil it down to anything that

856
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 1: is like happening other than with like meaning like pink

857
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 1: or red means like hot or danger, and blue means

858
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 1: like cool and quiet, and right.

859
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 3: Blue means cool ranch stritos. Red means flame.

860
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 1: And hot nacho cheese. Yeah exactly. And that's why I

861
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: wake up, to get wake up in the morning, I

862
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 1: eat nacho cheese and to go to bed and I

863
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:27,720
Speaker 1: eat cool ranch.

864
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly.

865
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:29,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

866
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 2: I can give you an example even without an experiment.

867
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 2: I know people who will drink an espresso or drink

868
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 2: an energy drink and while they're drinking it, we'll talk

869
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 2: about how wired they are, like, oh my gosh, it's

870
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,120
Speaker 2: hitting me. Well, it takes forty five minutes for caffeine

871
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 2: to enter the bloodstrain. Yeah, that's you. You drinking the

872
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 2: red Bull, and after two gulps is like, oh my gosh,

873
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 2: I can feel it hitting me. It's like it's like

874
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 2: you didn't inject it into your vein. You drink it.

875
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 2: It has to be absorbed into your system. But that

876
00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 2: spasibo effect, you know, And if you if you felt

877
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 2: that that soon, you just told yourself. So think about

878
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 2: did you need the energy drink at all? If you

879
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 2: can talk yourself into bouncing off the walls because you

880
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 2: thought that, oh my gosh, the whole eighty hole milgrams

881
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 2: of caffeine has slammed into my system, which by the way,

882
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 2: is not very much. And I personally believe making the

883
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 2: can big and with a big, loud, stupid name like

884
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 2: C four bomb sickle and it's got like a stick

885
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 2: a dynamite on it, I think that helps the placebo effect.

886
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 2: I think you drink a big, bombasting can of something,

887
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 2: it's like, man, that's going to hit me like a

888
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 2: freight train. I think it can have it could be decaf,

889
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,439
Speaker 2: and I think it would hit you mostly the same way.

890
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want an energy drink that's just called brain

891
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 3: bone or juice.

892
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: Your brain is gonna fuck so hard. And then the

893
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:55,359
Speaker 1: other example that's kind of in the other direction was

894
00:49:56,120 --> 00:50:00,919
Speaker 1: they looked at the cause of death between China, these Americans,

895
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: and randomly selected group of white people in California, and

896
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: it was found that Chinese Americans, but not the white people,

897
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: will die significantly earlier than normal if they have a

898
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 1: combination of disease and birth year, which Chinese astrology and

899
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 1: medicine consider ill fated. And so it's you know, Chinese

900
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 1: Americans whose deaths were attributed to lymphatic cancer and if

901
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 1: they were born in Earth years and consequently were deemed

902
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 1: by Chinese medicine like especially susceptible to diseases involving lumps,

903
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: not nodules or tumors, had an averaged death age like

904
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:48,040
Speaker 1: four years younger than people who were not born in

905
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: one of those years. And no such you know, difference

906
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: existed among the group of white people. So it's just

907
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,120
Speaker 1: and that was true across like I don't know the

908
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: ins and outs of what Chinese medicine believes and like

909
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:08,359
Speaker 1: what the different year meanings are, but like it just

910
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 1: it feels like very strongly determined by like meaning and

911
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 1: like the stories that we tell ourselves about ourselves and

912
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: that like we like exist within and so I don't know,

913
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: it's I find that one like kind of hopeful in

914
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 1: a way because like you can I don't know, like

915
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: tell yourself stories and like sort of free yourself from

916
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: some of the stories that we tell ourselves that it

917
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: can be damaging about ourselves. Like like what there was

918
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: also a study where they told people the truth. They

919
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: were like, this is a placebo effect study, and like

920
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 1: the truth is that like placebo effects have been shown

921
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 1: to like help people, and like that it had clear

922
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 1: like positive results just by being honest, which I always

923
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,320
Speaker 1: thought like an important part of the police Cibo effect

924
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: would be the lying. But yeah, apparently not, which doesn't

925
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: really make sense to me.

926
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 3: But like rituals I think can really have a strong effect.

927
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 3: Like you put the pill in your mouth and you

928
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 3: swallow the water, and even if you know it's a placebo,

929
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 3: you've still done the ritual in your body. You may

930
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 3: still have sort of this like connection to the ritual

931
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 3: and feeling better. So it's you know, it's like if

932
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,879
Speaker 3: you've ever found like a calming routine, like some kind

933
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 3: of meditation routine or calming routine that you do, like

934
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 3: once you sort of get into the typical position that

935
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 3: you're in, that it's like, well, I start listening to music,

936
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 3: I sit on the couch or something. Once you practice

937
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 3: it and do it a bunch, it works better. Like

938
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 3: meditation or calming yourself down, like works better once you've

939
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 3: practiced it, because once you start to do it, you

940
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 3: make the association between like, well, once I when I

941
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 3: light this candle or listen to this music, I start

942
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 3: to feel calm. And then it's like, even though you

943
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 3: know it's not like medicine, yeah, you've come to associate

944
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:05,399
Speaker 3: the ritual with feeling better, but yeah with the with

945
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 3: the that study on like the zodiac or wait is

946
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 3: it zodiac?

947
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:14,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, che medicine like right, It's it makes.

948
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 3: Me think about when we when someone has a disease

949
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,359
Speaker 3: and they're given a time frame for like how much

950
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:25,280
Speaker 3: longer they have to live. I've always had mixed feelings

951
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 3: about that because on one hand, I think it's good

952
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 3: right to like prepare people for like, hey, you know

953
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 3: you have terminal cancer, so you might want to like

954
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 3: prepare and get your affairs in order and all this.

955
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 3: But having a time frame in a way also seems

956
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 3: like you are kind of potentially negating any kind of

957
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 3: like placebo effect of like, well if I can like,

958
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 3: you know, like maybe this thing will kill me eventually.

959
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 3: But then if you feel like, well, I'm definitely going

960
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 3: to die in like a year or X months, I

961
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 3: wonder if that has an effect on how long you

962
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 3: actually have. It's not to say that the diagnosis is

963
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 3: incorrect or that's something like terminal cancer you can just

964
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 3: think your way out of, but there is something on

965
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,720
Speaker 3: the margins in terms of like how healthy you are

966
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,919
Speaker 3: and continue to be based on your mind frame. Right,

967
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 3: So it's like, I don't think you could beat a

968
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 3: terminal diagnosis through some kind of placebo effect, but I

969
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 3: could imagine your quality of life and your length of

970
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 3: time left could be affected by whether you feel completely

971
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 3: doomed or not within a certain period of time.

972
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: Right.

973
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 2: I think you stumbled on a big, big thing in

974
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 2: our society, which is, for example, to me, it is

975
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:54,240
Speaker 2: not surprising at all that yoga cures all sorts of things.

976
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 2: You're stretching, it's you've got to a room to see

977
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 2: the silnd or with white noise, or with music. It's

978
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 2: something you often do in a group where a bunch

979
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 2: of people all doing something in sync. You know, we

980
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 2: humans are social animals. That has its own benefit. It

981
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:11,919
Speaker 2: does not surprise me that that helps cure all sorts

982
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 2: of things. None of us stretch enough and just. And

983
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 2: it's also its exertion. You know, it's very strenuous. If

984
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 2: you've never done yoga before, it will kick your ass.

985
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:25,320
Speaker 2: You don't. It's not just stretching like it's holding difficult positions.

986
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 2: But part of yoga is that there's a religion around

987
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 2: it basically, and it's all of this stuff that I

988
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 2: know is on scientific about Well, this stretch will release

989
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 2: any financial stress in your life, because financial anxiety tends

990
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 2: to store in your hips. Yeah, you've got to realign

991
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 2: your chakra. You've got to the mystical spiritual energies and

992
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,800
Speaker 2: the body. Thetans have to be released through your spine.

993
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 2: So the question is does the mythology make it work better?

994
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 2: And once you apply it, think about yoga, you think

995
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 2: about all of the other things in society where we

996
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 2: tell people a story to get them to behave a

997
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 2: certain way and the story is not true, but it

998
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 2: is effective at healing that we're making them healthier, And

999
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 2: what are the ethics of that? Because, for example, it

1000
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 2: is my understanding that studies has consistently found that placebos

1001
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,799
Speaker 2: work better when they are expensive. Yeah, because you don't

1002
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 2: want to feel like you wasted your money. So the

1003
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:31,240
Speaker 2: ethics of selling somebody a powder of ground up shark

1004
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 2: bones or something, and this is going to carry you

1005
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 2: anxiety and it's like, well, actually, people don't just buy

1006
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 2: it once, They buy it for years because they swear,

1007
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 2: they swear by it.

1008
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 1: It works.

1009
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 2: I would like to accuse those people of being thieves,

1010
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 2: But are they right?

1011
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 3: We should start making it not like shark bones and stuff,

1012
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 3: because sharks are endangered in some cases and it's bad,

1013
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 3: But like animals that we hate, we should make up

1014
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 3: stories about their bones and blood and stuff being good, Like, hey,

1015
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,280
Speaker 3: round up mosquitoes are an aphrodisiac because like, who cares

1016
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 3: they kill a bunch of mosquitos? Or like an invasive

1017
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 3: species of like you know, like hey, the crowd of

1018
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:13,840
Speaker 3: thorns starfish? You know they're invasive, but if you grind

1019
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 3: them up, it'll give you a boner. Like let's let's

1020
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 3: let's like, let's start making shitty animals the ones that

1021
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 3: we turn into medicine.

1022
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think a lot of supplements are

1023
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 1: mostly sawdust. By the way, Like when they test what's

1024
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 1: actually in there, they're like, oh, this is.

1025
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 2: Well, yes, yeah, this is just things like saying because

1026
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 2: it's not regulated, that doesn't have to go through the FDA,

1027
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 2: and because it also doesn't do anything so who hears.

1028
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 2: But if you buy Saint John's Word or Jensing or

1029
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 2: any of that stuff, you'll often find that the amount

1030
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:49,959
Speaker 2: in a pill is somewhere between ten percent or four

1031
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 2: hundred percent of what it says in the label because

1032
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 2: they're not being precise about it because you can't overdose

1033
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 2: on it because it's just just an herber or whatever.

1034
00:57:58,360 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1035
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 3: It's also just like medicine is a relatively news science.

1036
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 3: I know we think of it as being very old,

1037
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 3: but it wasn't that long ago that we were like

1038
00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 3: cutting holes in people's skulls and thinking that would like

1039
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:14,560
Speaker 3: take the demons.

1040
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 1: Out, and it did sometimes and.

1041
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 3: Sometimes trepending sometimes worked it's not to say, you know,

1042
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 3: like I don't think any of us, well I don't

1043
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 3: want to speak for anyone, but I don't think any

1044
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 3: of us believes that like medicine is bs. Like I think,

1045
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 3: you know, if your doctor is like, hey, you need

1046
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 3: treatment for this thing, you shouldn't be like yeah, right, jerk,

1047
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 3: Like there are like medicine. Modern medicine is pretty incredible

1048
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 3: in terms of how actually like we have actually figured

1049
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 3: out how certain proteins interlock with other proteins and that

1050
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 3: it affects your body. And that's incredible. But it's also

1051
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 3: I think there's this separation of like, all right, here's

1052
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 3: the real hard physic cold medicine, and then the brain

1053
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 3: the mind stuff, which is just kind of like you know,

1054
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 3: like hippie dippy brain stuff. It's not real. And I

1055
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 3: think that's I think that's a big problem. Like I

1056
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 3: think that a lot of things could be accomplished if

1057
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 3: we kind of didn't have this disconnect between like the

1058
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 3: body's health, the like the body and the brain, and

1059
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 3: this like separation of like, well, there's real medicine and

1060
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 3: then there's like you know, like just sort of mind

1061
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 3: over matter, you know, silly stuff. And I think combining

1062
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 3: the power of modern medical advancement and the understanding of

1063
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 3: how the brain impacts the body can help in a

1064
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 3: lot of ways, like you know, preventing like over medicalization

1065
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 3: of things, but also treatment of things that do need medicine,

1066
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 3: but could also use like the idea that you know,

1067
00:59:56,840 --> 01:00:00,080
Speaker 3: you treat just the thing that's happening in the body

1068
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 3: without addressing sort of the psychological impacts I think is

1069
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 3: kind of limited.

1070
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 2: I also think we have unrealistic expectations of medicine compared

1071
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 2: to where we are, but we think everything should be

1072
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 2: be able to have an instant diagnosis. Here's what it is,

1073
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 2: here's the pill that fixes it. Including things that are

1074
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 2: like well, I'm fatigued all the time. It's like, well,

1075
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:27,280
Speaker 2: what else do you have going on your life? As like, wow,

1076
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 2: I work three jobs and I have a figure and

1077
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 2: I need you to give me a pill that will

1078
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 2: make my fatigue go away. Or you know this is

1079
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 2: Ask any therapist and they will have the patient. It's like,

1080
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 2: I'm depressed. I need the treatment for depression. It's like, oh,

1081
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 2: when did your depression star Approximately, well, when my wife

1082
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 2: died and then my dog died six months later and

1083
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 2: then I lost my job because of my I was

1084
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 2: so sad about my wife dying and now I got

1085
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 2: kicked out of my apartment and it's like, Okay, your

1086
01:00:56,040 --> 01:01:00,080
Speaker 2: life is a disaster. You want a pill that will

1087
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 2: and I think that you know, it's it's stupid to

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Speaker 2: say we have too much faith in science. It is

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Speaker 2: unfair to ask a pill to fix that. You have

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01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 2: a long rountain to climb of getting things back in

1091
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 2: your li but your body is telling you, you know, man,

1092
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 2: this sucks. It's not because your brain's producing too much

1093
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 2: of a chemicals because your life is a disaster. It

1094
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 2: just is. Your life is not as good as it

1095
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 2: was before, so it is part of it is. It

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01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 2: is funny because you have part of the population who

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01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 2: refuses to believe in science or vaccines, but then you

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01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 2: have another part of the population that, for example, thought

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Speaker 2: that the moment they invent a vaccine for a disease,

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01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 2: that are just vanishes overnight. It's like, the truth is,

1101
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:46,320
Speaker 2: these are inventions by humans. They're not magic. They're miraculous

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Speaker 2: and since compared to what we were able to do

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01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 2: three hundred years ago. But no, sometimes you're going to

1104
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 2: go to the doctor, and the doctor's going to say,

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01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 2: we don't have a way to fix this yet, and

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01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 2: usually patients do not take that as an answer. They

1107
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 2: demand a to walk out of their with a prescription,

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01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 2: and lots of times they just gave you something to

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01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 2: make you go right, because it's like, we don't know

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Speaker 2: how to fix this yet. It's just that's the situation.

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Speaker 3: I've literally like felt, oh man, I'm so fatigued. Am

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Speaker 3: I sick? And then I realized it's nighttime, it's bedtime.

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01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 3: I have to go to sleep. I'm like, oh god,

1114
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 3: am I coming down with something. It's like, well, no,

1115
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 3: it's midnight and I should go.

1116
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 1: To bed this nighttime fatigue disorder.

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Speaker 2: And I did the normal thing where I looked at

1118
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 2: my phone for four hours after I went to bed,

1119
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:34,479
Speaker 2: and I woke up the next morning feeling my crap,

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Speaker 2: I'm coming down with something, right.

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Speaker 1: Happy, All right, that's gonna do it for this week's

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Speaker 1: weekly Zeitgeist. Please like and review the show if you like.

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Speaker 1: The show means the world to Miles. He needs your validation.

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Speaker 8: Folks.

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Speaker 1: I hope you're having a great weekend and I will

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Speaker 1: talk to you Monday. Bye.

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Speaker 2: Stinging