WEBVTT - Rep. Jake Auchincloss Talks Biden and Harris

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<v Speaker 1>Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news.

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<v Speaker 2>Harris's campaign finally receiving more than one hundred million dollars

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<v Speaker 2>in donations since Sunday, as an unofficial AP tally shows

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<v Speaker 2>her securing enough delegates for the Democratic nomination. Speaking at

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<v Speaker 2>her campaign headquarters, Harris saying, I am proud to have

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<v Speaker 2>secured the broad support needed to become our party's nominee.

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<v Speaker 2>I look forward to formally accepting the nomination soon to

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<v Speaker 2>have that discussion now. I'm pleased to say that joining

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<v Speaker 2>US Democratic Congressman Jake Chincloss of Massachusetts Congressman, great to

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<v Speaker 2>catch up with you, sir. You've been a big supporter

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<v Speaker 2>of the president. You weren't one of those that came

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<v Speaker 2>out and asked him to stand down. You were one

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<v Speaker 2>of those who highlighted the success he's had his track

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<v Speaker 2>record over the last three and a half years, Which

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<v Speaker 2>makes me wonder how confused you might be that, given

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<v Speaker 2>how good you think that track record has been, why

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<v Speaker 2>people within your own party has forced him to step aside.

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<v Speaker 3>Good morning, Thanks for having me on. General elections are

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<v Speaker 3>one or loss. The terms of the debate are set,

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<v Speaker 3>and the terms of the debate previously with.

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<v Speaker 4>A president's age and acuity.

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<v Speaker 3>Now with Kamala Harris having taken the torch, the terms

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<v Speaker 3>of the debate are the future versus the past, our

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<v Speaker 3>rule of law versus the law of the ruler, Donald

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<v Speaker 3>Trump's obsession with the grievances of the past versus the

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<v Speaker 3>possibilities of a strong American economy.

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<v Speaker 4>These terms of debate, Democrats will win. Congressman, do you

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<v Speaker 4>think he was appropriate though?

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<v Speaker 5>That The President told the American people through a letter,

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<v Speaker 5>and we've yet to hear him address the American people.

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<v Speaker 5>He's a sitting president. We haven't seen him since July seventeenth,

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<v Speaker 5>and he has yet to give remarks to the nation

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<v Speaker 5>about why he is stepping aside.

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<v Speaker 3>The President laid out his decision in a thoughtful and

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<v Speaker 3>well crafted letter, and then he's going to address the

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<v Speaker 3>nation this week, I believe, and I think he is

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<v Speaker 3>going to do what he has always done, which is

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<v Speaker 3>put the country's interest ahead of his own, which is

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<v Speaker 3>a start contrast to what we have seen from Donald Trump, who,

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<v Speaker 3>rather than see power, clung onto power in set it

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<v Speaker 3>in an insurrection and cause the deaths of officers in

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<v Speaker 3>the line of duty. That contrast will not be lost

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<v Speaker 3>in the American public.

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<v Speaker 5>But at the moment, there's a lot of questions surrounding

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<v Speaker 5>why we have yet to see him and decided to

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<v Speaker 5>do this by through a letter. Is it your understanding

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<v Speaker 5>that if he didn't drop out this weekend, more of

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<v Speaker 5>your colleagues in Congress were going to become public with

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<v Speaker 5>their concerns about his age and mental acuity.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think conjecture about the past is particularly fruitful.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now we have our nominee, it's Kamala Harris. I

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<v Speaker 3>think the focus now is how do we sprint through

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<v Speaker 3>the next one hundred days to win this election, because

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<v Speaker 3>the contrast now is going to be on Democrats as

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<v Speaker 3>the party of the rule of law, as Americans intuitively understand,

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<v Speaker 3>without predictability, without law and order, we cannot thrive as

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<v Speaker 3>an economy and as a civil society. The Republicans have

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<v Speaker 3>nominated a convicted felon. The Republicans are trying to surge

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<v Speaker 3>guns onto our streets and in our schools. The Republicans

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<v Speaker 3>are voting against bipartisan border security legislation. The Democrats of

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<v Speaker 3>the ones that the American public can trust to uphold

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<v Speaker 3>the rule of law and that will be the conversation.

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<v Speaker 5>Does this to you look like basically a coronation though?

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<v Speaker 5>Of the vice president? The Wall Street Journal editorial board

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<v Speaker 5>this morning talked about that the country's now losing the

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<v Speaker 5>chance to see a genuine and instructive party debate unfold.

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<v Speaker 5>She is winning by acclamation among all of the Democratic

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<v Speaker 5>Party insiders and moneymen who've swung behind her.

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<v Speaker 4>How concerned are you.

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<v Speaker 5>That this looks like a coronation of vice president and

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<v Speaker 5>not like a democratic process.

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<v Speaker 3>I like competition. I like competition in business. I like

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<v Speaker 3>competition in politics, and I think the Democratic Party should

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<v Speaker 3>not be afraid of it, and we should have an

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<v Speaker 3>open and transparent process to.

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<v Speaker 4>Choose our next nominee.

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<v Speaker 3>But Kamala Harris can't help it. If everybody endorses her

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<v Speaker 3>and she gets the majority of the delegates within the

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<v Speaker 3>first twenty four hours and she sees a surge of

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<v Speaker 3>base support, I mean, she's going to compete hard.

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<v Speaker 4>She said she was going to earn it and win it.

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<v Speaker 3>She's earned it, She's going to win the nomination, and

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<v Speaker 3>now we have to make sure that she wins the

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<v Speaker 3>general Congress.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think the way to put this together is

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<v Speaker 1>there's this question of how can the Democrats be the

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<v Speaker 1>party of democracy if they bet on a president to

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<v Speaker 1>run again, and just months before the election date, he

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<v Speaker 1>was pushed aside and somebody else was brought in. It

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<v Speaker 1>raises questions about the Democrats view on the democratic process

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<v Speaker 1>of election. How do you counter some of those real

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<v Speaker 1>concerns that people have.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's a flawed premise. I was here in

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<v Speaker 3>the chamber on January sixth. I've seen what a coup

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<v Speaker 3>looks like. What happened here was the Democratic Party is

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<v Speaker 3>designed to win elections in order to effectuate policy that

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<v Speaker 3>helps American voters. Joe Biden, through fourteen million voters, won

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<v Speaker 3>the delegates. He then decided, I'm going to step aside.

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<v Speaker 3>Those delegates were unbound. They were free to choose whomever

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<v Speaker 3>they wanted to carry the torch, and they chose Kamala Harris.

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<v Speaker 3>That is exactly the way that delegates are supposed to

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<v Speaker 3>happen under Democratic Party rules. Now voters are going to

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<v Speaker 3>see a choice between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump. They

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<v Speaker 3>will have the final determination of whether they like that choice.

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<v Speaker 3>And I am confident that since seventy percent of Americans

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<v Speaker 3>previously said they wanted to change at the top of

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<v Speaker 3>both tickets, and only Democrats have responded by actually doing

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<v Speaker 3>it that they're going to choo Kamala Harris gotrishin.

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<v Speaker 1>There's also a lot of concern about what people don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that that's what the debate really highlighted.

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<v Speaker 4>For a lot of people. What aren't we seeing.

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<v Speaker 1>About the state of the current president, who still has

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<v Speaker 1>to rule until early next year, regardless of who wins

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<v Speaker 1>the White House. At what point can you truly allay

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<v Speaker 1>those concerns at a time when we haven't seen him

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<v Speaker 1>and there is this fear that you know, it's something

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<v Speaker 1>more that caused to withdraw than simply pressure that has

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<v Speaker 1>been mounting for a while, and that he was pretty

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<v Speaker 1>defiant in the face of well.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I know a few days as an eternity

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<v Speaker 3>in the media, but we actually have seen him a

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<v Speaker 3>lot over the last month. We saw him on the

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<v Speaker 3>debate stage, we've seen him do one on one interviews,

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<v Speaker 3>we've seen him at rallies, and most importantly, we've seen

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<v Speaker 3>his track record over the last three and a half years.

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<v Speaker 3>This president took an economy that was flat on its back,

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<v Speaker 3>and we now have strong jobs and inflat numbers. This

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<v Speaker 3>president has restored US global leadership. This president is protecting

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<v Speaker 3>civil rights and democracy at home. Americans can see the

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<v Speaker 3>track record, and Americans like the policies. And that's what

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<v Speaker 3>Kamala Harrison is going to be able to run on now,

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<v Speaker 3>is we've put the age and acuity issue to bed.

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<v Speaker 3>We have the policies front and center, we have a

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<v Speaker 3>dynamic candidate, and we're going to win.

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<v Speaker 2>Congressman, you just said that they like the policies. Can

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<v Speaker 2>you point to the polls where that really shows up.

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<v Speaker 3>Medicare, negotiation of drug prices, investing in infrastructure, the Chips

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<v Speaker 3>and Science Act, a turbo charge or competition against China,

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<v Speaker 3>Electoral count Act, reform to help close the January sixth loophole,

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<v Speaker 3>Bipartisans Safer Communities Act that has helped push homicide.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a long list of fifty issues. You're right to

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<v Speaker 2>point them out. That's been a successful part of the administration.

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<v Speaker 2>But he was behind the polls to such an extent

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<v Speaker 2>the leadership within your party pushed him off the ticket. Congressman,

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<v Speaker 2>I just feel like this conversation at the moment feels

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<v Speaker 2>like we're in two different realities. You just then appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>it about the news cycle. Let me just finish up.

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like that was needlessleep snarky, sir. This is

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<v Speaker 2>not about the news cycle. This is about the sitting

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<v Speaker 2>president of the United States that chose to make one

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<v Speaker 2>of the most consequential decisions of his career on Twitter

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<v Speaker 2>on Sunday, and we've not really heard from him since.

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<v Speaker 2>And I find out that you don't think that's strange.

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<v Speaker 4>It's Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 3>He issues a letter on Sunday. He's going to address

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<v Speaker 3>the nation. He laid out his reasoning. This country, over

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<v Speaker 3>the last two hundred and fifty years, has seen some

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<v Speaker 3>of its most consequential moments described in print. There is

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<v Speaker 3>nothing that's an affront to the American public about laying out,

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<v Speaker 3>in black and white text his reasoning. He will address

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<v Speaker 3>the public, and most importantly, he has demonstrated to the

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<v Speaker 3>public over the last and a half years that not

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<v Speaker 3>only can he be president, but he can be a

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<v Speaker 3>top ten president in American history.

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<v Speaker 2>So why isn't he running?

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<v Speaker 3>He isn't running because the concerns about his age and

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<v Speaker 3>acuity are undermining his ability to beat Donald Trump and

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<v Speaker 3>undermining the constituent's confidence that he can discharge.

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<v Speaker 2>The duties own that concerns that you'll colleagues have, correct,

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<v Speaker 2>let's come from within your own party. That's not like

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<v Speaker 2>some thing that's come from the media. It's officials. I've

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<v Speaker 2>been very clear about sons or if they don't believe

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<v Speaker 2>the policy is more important than his age.

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<v Speaker 4>I've just really struggled here.

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<v Speaker 2>You've come out a few times, and I've seen some

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<v Speaker 2>of your comments previously, and we keep going back to

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<v Speaker 2>this track record, the policies, the policies the last three

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<v Speaker 2>and a half years. Don't you think if the public

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<v Speaker 2>thought those policies were that good, we wouldn't be in

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<v Speaker 2>this position to begin with.

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<v Speaker 3>No, because the public was focused on the president's age

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<v Speaker 3>and acuity. We now have a different candidate at the

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<v Speaker 3>top of the ticket, and elections are about the future,

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<v Speaker 3>and what we are going to say to the American

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<v Speaker 3>public is, look at what we have accomplished over the

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<v Speaker 3>last four years. Let's take this forward as we debate

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<v Speaker 3>tax policy in the next congress. Let's take this forward

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<v Speaker 3>as we debate immigration policy in the next congress. Let's

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<v Speaker 3>take this forward as we debate reproductive freedom in the

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<v Speaker 3>next Congress, and let's demonstrate that we can make this

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<v Speaker 3>economy work for everybody. Let's demonstrate that we can continue

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<v Speaker 3>to heal our democracy after the depredations of the trial administration.

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<v Speaker 3>And all Trump is going to be able to say

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<v Speaker 3>is that same spew of grievances and self pitying and

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<v Speaker 3>egocentric lamentations that we heard from his convention speech where

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<v Speaker 3>he tried to go for twenty minutes and sound statesmen

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<v Speaker 3>like and he couldn't get past.

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<v Speaker 5>Ten Congressman, if it's your own colleagues, the elder state's individuals,

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<v Speaker 5>if you will, of your Democratic your leader's Pelosi Schumer,

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<v Speaker 5>all these leaks, if they're the ones that are concerned

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<v Speaker 5>about his age and mental acuity, then should the president

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<v Speaker 5>step aside? How can the American people be confident that

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<v Speaker 5>he can fulfill his duties for.

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<v Speaker 4>The rest of his term.

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<v Speaker 3>He absolutely should not step aside. This president is fully

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<v Speaker 3>able to be commander and chief. We've seen him walk

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<v Speaker 3>a tightrope in the Middle East, protecting the security of

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<v Speaker 3>Israel while not allowing for a regional conflagration.

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<v Speaker 4>We've seen him rally NATO to Ukraine's side.

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<v Speaker 3>We've seen him bind together South Korea and Japan and

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<v Speaker 3>the Philippines in Australia to help counter Chinese belligerents in

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<v Speaker 3>the Indo Pacific. This president is a highly successful foreign

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<v Speaker 3>policy president who is also implement memented monumental domestic policy legislation.

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<v Speaker 3>He has demonstrated he can do the job. He's eighty

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<v Speaker 3>one years old. Voters, he concerns about his ability to

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<v Speaker 3>do the job for four more years. Democrats listened. Democrats

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<v Speaker 3>put forward a younger, dynamic candidate, and now the Republican

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<v Speaker 3>Party is going to have to explain why they're not

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<v Speaker 3>doing the same thing, because seventy percent of Americans wanted

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<v Speaker 3>a difference at the top of both tickets, and Republicans

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<v Speaker 3>responded with a mosh.

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<v Speaker 4>Pit in Milwaukee.

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<v Speaker 2>Congressmen appreciate the stern defense. Thank you, sir, Congressman Jake Arkincloss. There,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the latest out of Massachusetts, a stern defense of

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<v Speaker 2>the President of the United States.