1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: If you want Colts talk all year long, You're in 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: the right place. Fires upfield into the end time it 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: is cut to Loney, what cuts down? He's gonna fire 4 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: up fields? Broken up? Tip it intercepted by the Colts. 5 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: This is the Official Colts Podcast giving you an updated 6 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: look at what's new with the Horseshoes, Cold Tabbitt interception 7 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: two seconds slip and the Cults are gonna win in 8 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: the Indiana Union Construction Industry Radio studio. Let's get the 9 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: podcast started. It is a Thursday. We're back here on 10 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 1: set on YouTube and the Official Cults Podcast were brought 11 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: to you by Win Las Vegas. On the Official Cults 12 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: Podcast on a Thursday, Bill Brooks the Ring of Honor 13 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: member Casey Valier from the Colts Radio Network. I'm Matt Taylor. 14 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: Thanks for coming back, fellows. How we do in post 15 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: Halloween doing well? Let me trigger traders for you in 16 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: the neighborhood. 17 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, not many. I think we just had one family 18 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 2: came by one yeah, one family with two kids, and 19 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 2: it was one of those things where I told them 20 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 2: to kind of dip your hand into the the. 21 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: Bag there to test the toughness of the kids in 22 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 1: your neighborhood once a year. 23 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 2: I know they didn't want to come out, I guess, 24 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 2: but anyway, they dipped a hand into the bag and 25 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 2: one killing got one out and I was like, I 26 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 2: could take some more. Mom, bro only got it one 27 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 2: out and I said, open your bag. Started I just 28 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 2: got dumping some in his bag and dumped some into 29 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 2: the sister's bag. 30 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: So they had quite a bit. But that was it. 31 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: That's why I found Casey on sugar with the kids 32 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: left over nerds and you know sweet tarts. 33 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 3: Ours was a similar situation to Bill. We had more 34 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 3: than just one. But so I live in a it's 35 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 3: a new build neighborhood. It just just wrapped up all 36 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 3: the houses about three or four months ago, and it's 37 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 3: maybe got forty houses total. So what I thought was 38 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 3: that all of the families had their They went to 39 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 3: their previous Halloween location, not anticipating how many houses would 40 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 3: be giving out stuff in the first. 41 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: Real year of Alloween. 42 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 3: Well, we did not expect that, so we bought way 43 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 3: too much candy and we have let's just say, we 44 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 3: could probably open up store and we could. We could 45 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 3: sell quite a bit of candy for. 46 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: Valentine's Day, don't you know what. 47 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 3: Ultimately, I'm sure we have a bucket somewhere in the 48 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 3: house that has candy from like last year's Halloween and 49 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 3: the previous Halloween. 50 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: So we have so much candy. It's it's unrehad we 51 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: had Michael Myers driving around in a golf cart handed 52 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: out candy, it really realized he was terrifying. Yeah, because 53 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: the guy rolls up, He's like driving right at us, 54 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: got the mask on, you know, just stoic. You know, 55 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: the mask is just you know, the one face. He's 56 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:40,679 Speaker 1: driving up. I'm like, oh, is this dude gonna hit us? 57 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: And he just stops, like you know, swerves his golf 58 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: cart like spins around, does a big wheelie and just 59 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: hands out candy. Goes. That's it. A Mike Myers and 60 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: a Mike Myers costume. I'm like, this is awesome to 61 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: say anything. Didn't say a word, well done, say a word, 62 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 1: handout like milk does, and just drove off. It was spectacular. 63 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 1: And then like around around eight fifteen, like past probably 64 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: the Halloween window if you will, guy, you know, I 65 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:06,839 Speaker 1: get a knock on the door. Some thirteen year old. 66 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: You can tell he's like going all out. It's his 67 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 1: last year, you know, like I'm not doing this anymore, 68 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: Like I'm a freshman in high school. He's got a 69 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: trash bag roll of candy, likehit like a twenty gallon 70 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: like industrial trash bag, just full of sugar. And I'm 71 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: just like, dude, prop you my kids are going to bed. 72 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 1: I'm here, I'm prepping on the panther, and he's asking 73 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 1: for skittles. It was awesome. So yeah, I. 74 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 3: Wish that kid would have came by because he would 75 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 3: have gotten all of the bar left over. Because that's 76 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 3: the thing I was talking with. 77 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: We didn't even say a word too. He just goes here, 78 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: hit the bag on like opening it up. 79 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 3: Started with talking with one of the guys that we 80 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 3: went to the house, and he was like, please take 81 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 3: as much candy as you want because we've already refilled 82 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 3: our bucket with the candy we just got went and 83 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 3: I was like, isn't it a funny? It's really it's 84 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 3: a weird phenomenon. You know, if you do have kids 85 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 3: trick or treating, it's like you don't ever get rid 86 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 3: of and because you're just replenishing yourself after you get back. 87 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 3: And I was like, you know, it's a really good point. 88 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 3: We'll take that, Jerry Seinfeld. I'll do anything for the candy. 89 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 3: I can wear that. 90 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: Who's handing it out? Who's one? Everyone that we know? 91 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: Take me with you? All right. Finally we're going to 92 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: get to some football here. This is all about the 93 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: Punts and the Panthers, I promise in week number nine 94 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: on this holiday edition post holiday edition of the Official 95 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: Colts Podcast. Also and later on the podcast, we're going 96 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 1: to be joined by Matt Gay, Colts kicker having a 97 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: phenomenal season. Fourteen out of sixteen on his kicks. He's 98 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 1: really only missed one all season because the other one 99 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 1: got Miles garretted. Yeah, that's a verb that I'm using. 100 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: After he just completely ran over or leapt over. I 101 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,479 Speaker 1: guess the entire Colts offensive line on that place, after. 102 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 3: He played that whole entire game, You could probably throw 103 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 3: that in. That probably is added to the dictionary for sure. 104 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: So the Colt's trying to snap a three game skid. 105 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: The Panthers are up next, as the Colts fly away 106 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: from Lucas Oil Stadium for the foreseeable future. Here, the 107 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: month of November is going to be littered with road games, 108 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: game in Charlotte, then a game in Germany, then the 109 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: bye week, come back the weekend after Thanksgiving and play 110 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: a home game. But that's really about it for the 111 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: month of November in terms of Lucas Oil Stadium action. 112 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: But to begin here, boys, we're going with four down territory. 113 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: We're leading off with four down territory. The Colts have 114 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: sixteen to fourth down attempts on the season, tied for 115 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 1: the second most in the NFL. So let's go just 116 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: let's go for it here right out of the gate, 117 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: let's talk about the top four storylines for the Colts 118 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: and the Panthers on Sunday. The first topic here is 119 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: I'm calling it stop the bleeding Bill. The Colts are 120 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: on a three game slide. They're now three and five 121 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 1: on the season started off so promising. It feels like 122 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: two years ago, seemingly when the Colts played the Jaguars 123 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: in first place in the AFC South was on the line, 124 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: and right now the Colts are in last place in 125 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: the division with this losing streak here and as we said, 126 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: the Colts have a couple of road games coming up here. 127 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: What you guys were both inside the locker room earlier 128 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: this week, What is the mood of the team, What 129 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: are guys saying, How are players going about this week 130 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: mentally trying to turn the season around and get this 131 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: ship righted before the bye week which comes in about 132 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: two weeks. 133 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 2: Well, I think the guys, of course, are disappointed in 134 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 2: their record and disappointed and maybe the performance out there 135 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 2: in the football field. Right now, they're saying the right things, 136 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 2: They're saying all the things they need to say, and 137 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 2: they're just thinking about the next game. The thing about 138 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 2: the National Football League, you play week, you always have 139 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 2: an opportunity to rectify that if you had a bad 140 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 2: week previously. So they're looking forward to the opportunity next week, 141 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 2: this upcoming week against the Panthers, to hopefully change that. 142 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 2: In order to change that, you don't think about being 143 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 2: five and five at going into the by hopefully winning 144 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 2: these next two games. You think about how can we 145 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 2: beat the Panthers. And I think that's the mindset right now. 146 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 2: I know it's cliche, one game at a time, but 147 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 2: that's the only thing they can do. They can't think 148 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 2: about the rest of the season. They have to think 149 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 2: about this upcoming game against the Carolina Panthers. 150 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: No, I agree with Bill. 151 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 3: I think the moon and locker room is right where 152 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 3: it probably should be. They're disappointed, and they're probably more 153 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 3: just looking at themselves in the mirror, going how are 154 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 3: we here? Because if you look at what this team 155 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 3: has done. I know, defensively we've seen the thirty seven 156 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 3: points allowed over the last three games, but in total, 157 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 3: I would say the team has played pretty well and 158 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 3: there's a handful of spots you look at and go wow. 159 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 3: If you do that, typically you win a game. You 160 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 3: do that typically win a game. So there there is 161 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 3: a lot of good that has come from this. So 162 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 3: there is some positives you can take. Now you got 163 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 3: to clean up a handful of things, like you will 164 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 3: every week. But I think it's one of those that 165 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 3: it's a three game slide where you don't look at 166 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 3: and go, we got blown out three straight weeks. You 167 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 3: look at it and go, you know, if we change 168 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 3: a couple of things here and there, we improve in 169 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 3: this area. 170 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: Finding out to the margin of area, right, that's where 171 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: it is, the margin of it, and it's with almost 172 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: every team in the league. 173 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 3: I mean, weekend and week out, the whole adage of 174 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 3: any given Sunday, like it is so true in the league, 175 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 3: I would think that the parody across the NFL is 176 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 3: very very then. And that's one of the things that 177 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 3: I think we've really started to see over this three 178 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 3: game slide, is that you know, you improve a couple 179 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 3: areas here, and all of a sudden, that could be 180 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 3: a three game winning streak that you're on. I know 181 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 3: last week maybe was a little bit more out of hand, 182 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 3: but ultimately you're right there in a lot of these situations. 183 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: I'm going to paraphrase here, but I loved what Zaire 184 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: Franklin had to say this week. And people say, yeah, 185 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: you're three and five, you're on a three game losing skid, 186 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: but listen, you got you got nine games left, You're fine. 187 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: Anything can happen. And while that's true, Zaire said, dude, 188 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: that's that's bull blank, Like it's time to go, Like, 189 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: you can't use that as a crutch, you can't use 190 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: that as something to fall back onto. Yeah, the math 191 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 1: says this isn't a must win game and all that stuff, 192 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: And I know you're not the most but I'm with Zaire, like, 193 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 1: it's time to go, Like, if you want to get 194 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: this season back on the right track. It starts with 195 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: and we'll talk about it, no disrespect to the Panthers. 196 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: It starts with dominating up one in sixteen, flying to 197 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: Germany to get back to five hundred before the bye week, 198 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 1: and then get on this stretch run in late November 199 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: and December when every team kind of hits a different 200 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 1: gear going into the playoffs, trying to make a playoff push. 201 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: Let's go to second down on our four down territory here. 202 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 1: You talked about it the point total on defense. What's 203 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: wrong with this defense? The Colts they gave up five 204 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: hundred and eleven yards to the Saints in a game 205 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: last week where prior to that game against the Colts, 206 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: the Saints hadn't racked up more than three hundred and 207 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: fifty yards of offense all season long. As you said, 208 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: the Colts, they've allowed at least thirty seven points in 209 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: three straight games, first time they've done that since twenty eighteen. 210 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: And we dug this up, Casey, because it kind of 211 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: just it's one of those things where you're going down 212 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: a rabbit hole and it just punches you in the face. 213 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: In terms of the harsh reality since Week eleven, of 214 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: last year when this season kind of spiraled out of 215 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: control for the Colts. Since Week eleven of the twenty 216 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: twenty two season bill, the Colts are giving up an 217 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 1: average of thirty point two points per game, which is 218 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: last in the NFL. What are the biggest problems on 219 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: defense right now? I know they got a problem up 220 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: front without Grover Stewart, and certainly in the secondary. They're 221 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 1: trying to figure out their best matchups of personnel. 222 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 2: To me, looking at it, from the beginning of the 223 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 2: season to now, it's usually they gave them the big plays, 224 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 2: big chunk plays, and there's receivers. You know, go back 225 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 2: to the first game of the season with Calvin Ridley, 226 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 2: you go to Nico Collins, you go to Pukah with 227 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 2: the Rams. These guys are having big games against the 228 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 2: Colts and they give them these big yards. They do 229 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 2: well for a portion of the game, but then all 230 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 2: of a sudden, there's a big play. Last week, the 231 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 2: big plays to Shaheed down the field, big touchdown, big 232 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 2: catch on third down the end of the game, near 233 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 2: the end of the game to seal the game for 234 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 2: the Saints. So we're getting the big plays. Have to 235 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 2: limit those big explosive plays against the defense and then 236 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 2: hopefully in the fourth quarter, hopefully slow teams down and 237 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 2: shut them down the fourth quarter so that you know 238 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 2: what it gets off. It's a chance to win football games. 239 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, when when the game is on the line, those 240 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: type of drives. We saw it against Cleveland. Obviously it 241 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: was riddled with questionable calls and penalties on the Colts, 242 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: but it wasn't necessarily a game winning drive for the Saints, 243 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 1: but it was a game ceiling drive thirty thirteen and 244 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: then go over the top and Shaheed he did what 245 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: he had done all game longer Colts. That's that's the 246 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: type of drive that that Zac Bill is talking about, 247 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: those close out drives or those we got to get 248 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: the ball back type of drives. That's where the cults 249 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: are coming up short. 250 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 3: We talked about it a little bit last week. Make 251 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 3: a stop, and I don't feel like we have seen 252 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:39,199 Speaker 3: that we haven't seen when I mean, and it's it's 253 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 3: one of those things we got so used to before 254 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 3: last year. It was almost like you just waited for 255 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 3: where's the turnover happening? Because it's going to come. And 256 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 3: I think over what we saw last year and where 257 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 3: we are now. The lack of causing turnovers defensively, it 258 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 3: really does put a big impact on you know, the 259 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 3: rest of your defense looks like I mean, you saw 260 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 3: it last year. They didn't create a lot of turnovers 261 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 3: and we saw what happened with the defense, and I 262 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 3: feel like we're in that same little boat this year, 263 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 3: where the defense is playing in spots like they have 264 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 3: in years past, and then in that spot where they're 265 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 3: creating like third and thirteen, you want to see a 266 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 3: guy get home, like you want to see, Hey, you 267 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 3: know what, We're gonna put car down and it's gonna 268 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:24,599 Speaker 3: be You're gonna punt to us and we're gonna have 269 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 3: an opportunity. Instead, it's another big play. We saw that PJ. 270 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 3: Walker third and ten, you create a thirty yard pass. 271 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 1: Down the line. 272 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 3: This is before those penalties that everybody talks about. That 273 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 3: was the big I mean, it's those times where you 274 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 3: need to stop and I don't feel like this defense 275 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 3: is getting that now. This is not at all a 276 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:42,719 Speaker 3: stab of the defense, because I think there are a 277 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 3: lot of really good players on this team that can 278 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 3: make those plays. We just haven't seen it come to fruition. 279 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 3: I mean guys like Zy or Franklin DeForest Buckner. They're 280 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 3: more than capable of making these plays. It just hasn't happened. 281 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Colts obviously trying to figure out what their 282 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: best personnel lineup is in the secondary. You know they've 283 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: they've tried Darryl Baker Junior. Obviously, they went away from 284 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: him last week, tried Tony Brown on the outside. Listen, 285 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: we know Juju Brince isn't coming back, at least not 286 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: this week. He's not gonna practice all week, which means 287 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: he's probably gonna miss another game. They haven't officially made 288 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: that announcement yet, but that's likely coming. So you can 289 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: either move you know your options are. You can move 290 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: Tony Brown to nickel, kick Kenny Moore outside. I know 291 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 1: the Colts coaching staff is reluctant to do that because 292 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: of how much they like and prefer Kenny Moore to 293 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: play nickel. That's understandable. You can play Kenny on the outside, 294 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: possibly move Julian Blackman down to nickel. He did that 295 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: last year in a pinch when Kenny Moore was injured 296 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: towards the end of the season. You could play Nick 297 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 1: Cross at one of the safety spots if you do that. 298 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: So they do have options, but they're just trying to 299 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: figure out that best option because right now, the last 300 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: couple of instances where they've been without Juju Brince, it's 301 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: obviously been tough to make plays consistently in the back 302 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: end with Derek Carr, you know, throwing for over three 303 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: hundred yards. All right, third down? Is it Taylor? Tom? 304 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: Is it Jonathan Taylor time? I think we all kind 305 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: of know what I'm getting at at at that because 306 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: the Colts they had they had one hundred and ten 307 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: rushing yards in the first half against the Saints. They 308 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: only ran it six times in the second half. It 309 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: was kind of hard for the Colts to generate some 310 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 1: yards on the ground of the second half because they 311 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: only had the ball for just over ten minutes. They 312 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: were kind of backed up in terms of down and 313 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: distance and field position in that second half. But listen, 314 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor's going into his fifth game bill since he's 315 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: been activated off of pup. Both Moss and Taylor, they're 316 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: running the ball very effectively. Both guys were over six 317 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: yards per carry against the Saints. But is it is 318 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: it time for Jonathan Taylor to be the biggest focal 319 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: point of this offense going forward, and everything kind of 320 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: reacting off of that based on how well teams are 321 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: able to slow down Number twenty eight. 322 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 2: I look at it as I think they should continue 323 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 2: to do what they're doing and continue to wrap up 324 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 2: JT give it more carries. I'm not saying he needs 325 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 2: to get whole lot more carriers, because as we saw, 326 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 2: Zach Moss broke off a nice run against the Saints, 327 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 2: so he still is very effective out there running the 328 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 2: football and doing the things that he can do, especially 329 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 2: between the tackles. So I look at trying to get 330 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 2: the ball to JT a little bit more. It might 331 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 2: be in the passing game a little bit. So I 332 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 2: think definitely need to get some more touches for JT. 333 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 2: But I don't think it needs to be an overhaul 334 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 2: of having JT take ninety percent of the carriers and 335 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 2: then have someone come in for a relief for him. 336 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 2: But I just think they need to maybe start continue 337 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 2: to wrap it up to let JT get more touches 338 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 2: in the game. 339 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this for both of you guys. 340 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: We'll start with you first, Casey. Hypothetically, if Jonathan Taylor 341 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: is getting. Let's just say he gets twenty twenty five 342 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: carries per game on Sunday against Carolina. Would that cut 343 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: down on the turnovers the Colts on They only had 344 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: the one turnover on Sunday, but it was costly. The 345 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: Saints turned that into seven points and that kept the 346 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: Colts behind the eight ball in the second half. Would 347 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: that cut down on the turnovers? But in doing that, 348 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: it's kind of catch twenty two, right, because then you 349 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: would potentially also miss out on some of the big 350 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: plays that Josh Dollens has giving you, that Michael Pittman 351 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: Junior has given you, so on and so forth. 352 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's that is a tough question because I agree 353 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 3: with kind of everything you're saying. I don't know, I 354 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 3: don't know the answer to that, because that's ultimately I 355 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 3: think that's what everybody anticipates Jonathan getting. You say, twenty 356 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 3: to twenty five, that's kind of where you expect him 357 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 3: to be. And I'm kind of playing Devil's advocate a 358 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 3: little bit with Zach Moss because if you look at 359 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 3: where he is in the league right now, he's second 360 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 3: in the league in rushing, so he has earned his spot. 361 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 3: So it's hard to say that you have to just 362 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 3: pencil in twenty eight to get it every series, because 363 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 3: what Zack Moss has done, it's justified him getting these reps. 364 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 3: I think ultimately, maybe what it is is you're giving 365 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 3: them both. Whether it's twenty five for Taylor and maybe 366 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 3: that means twelve to fifteen for Zack Moss. Yeah, you're 367 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 3: eliminating the past. But I think what you do in 368 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 3: that is we have seen this running game has been 369 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 3: very effective running the football. It also adds to that 370 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 3: time of possession, and I think that is part of 371 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 3: the issue we have seen with the defense being on 372 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 3: the field so much. That's why you're seeing a lot 373 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 3: of these points, a lot of these big plays and 374 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 3: all this stuff. With the defense. I think it's kind 375 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 3: of twofold. It might help out everybody else too, if 376 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 3: you're giving the football a lot more to these guys, 377 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 3: and it also might create a defense to be a 378 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 3: little bit more lazy or really go all in on 379 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 3: the run and maybe then that would open up well, 380 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 3: you know some of those. So it's it's a really 381 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 3: tough place to be because I understand what you're saying, 382 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 3: I don't know the answer clearly if I knew the answer, 383 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 3: I'm sure Shane would know the answer too when we would. 384 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 3: But I would anticipate Jonathan getting more and more. 385 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: But I don't think. I think you're already seeing it 386 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: kind of organically. I mean Moss Moss last week played 387 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: a season low thirty nine percent of the snaps and 388 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: his first four games. I mean, obviously Jonathan Taylor is 389 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 1: still on pup, but in the first four games, Moss 390 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 1: averaging twenty two carries per game, averaging twelve in the 391 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 1: last three. So it's it's happening organically where Jonathan Taylor 392 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 1: is starting to become the focal point of this running game. 393 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: And you know, Bill, despite the numbers, with the Panthers 394 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: not being very good at all at being able to 395 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 1: stop the run, they're going to be hell bent on 396 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: playing that bear front, those pinched in defensive tackles. They're 397 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 1: going to say, we're not going to get beat today 398 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: by the Colts running game. That's why I asked you 399 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: the question of Okay, just let Jonathan Taylor be the 400 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: focal point. That's what you want to do. That's what 401 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: you want, that's what you want to establish. But everything 402 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: after that sort of dovetails on how well a team 403 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: is stopping Jonathan Taylor and allowing the Colts offense, which 404 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 1: has been very explosive for eleven and one and fourteen 405 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: on the outside making catches down the field. 406 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to you have to let them do that, 407 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 2: and then you have to pretty much take what they're 408 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 2: going to give. You mean, if they want to try 409 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 2: to stop the run, well, Josh downs is making plays, 410 00:18:56,840 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 2: Pittman's making plays. You also could put the ball in 411 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 2: Jonathan Tailor's hands and as far as a receiver, as 412 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 2: a receiving him back out of the backfield, do some 413 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 2: different things with him. So I think, let him get 414 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 2: his touches, but his touches doesn't have to always be 415 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 2: running the ball. Give him some touches, maybe catching some 416 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 2: passes out in the open field so he can use 417 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 2: his speed and it's elusiveness out there out in the 418 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 2: open field. So I would just like to see that 419 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 2: to continue to ramp up, so to speak, as far 420 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 2: as getting the ball, but not always just in the 421 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 2: running game. 422 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: All right, let's go fourth down, four down, territory, fourth down, 423 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: Frank Reich. Frank Reich versus the Colts. We all remember, 424 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: Frank is a tremendous guy, unbelievable coach, unbelievable human being, 425 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: was with the Colts from twenty eighteen to twenty twenty two. 426 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: Forty one wins with the Colts took him the two 427 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: playoff berths, won at least ten games in two seasons 428 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen and twenty twenty. But he also hired 429 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 1: Gus Bradley. He hired the Colts defensive coordinator, so he 430 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 1: knows this defense just about as well as Gus knows 431 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: the defense. And he allowed Gus to hire the staff 432 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: that's predominantly here still on that side of the ball, 433 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: and Ron Milis and Richard Smith and Cato June's just 434 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: to name a few. What changes Bill do the Colts 435 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: have to make on defense to help disguise some things 436 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: for Frank, who's going to be all over this defense 437 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: ins and outs. And from a basic principal standpoint, well, 438 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: I'm going a little old school here. 439 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 2: I'm going back to what Tony Dungee said one time, 440 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 2: and he said that you know what, this is what 441 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 2: we do. We play this type of defense. We're going 442 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 2: to do it, and we're going to play it, and 443 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 2: we're going to play it fast and we're just going 444 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 2: to minimize our mistakes. And I think that's the same 445 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 2: thing the Colt's gonna have to do. Play your defense. Yes, 446 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:41,679 Speaker 2: you do have to do some things a little bit 447 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:45,360 Speaker 2: differently because you do have tennessees. Every team has tennesseees, 448 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 2: so there are tennessees that we have from a defensive 449 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 2: standpoint that you need to tweak a little bit to 450 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 2: show him something a little bit different. So he is 451 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 2: going he is going to need to do something a 452 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 2: little bit different. Yeah, you know, if it's bringing pressure, whatever, 453 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,479 Speaker 2: it may be. Just something a little bit different on 454 00:20:58,520 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 2: certain downs and distance. 455 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: But for the most. 456 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 2: Part, do what you do. Just do it better and 457 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 2: go out there and execute it and make sure that 458 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 2: you can. You know what they're you know what the 459 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 2: Panthers are going to do stop them. You have a 460 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 2: game plan. You know, Feeling is one of the best 461 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 2: players on the team. They're gonna try to get to 462 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 2: bought the Feeling. Things like that. Hubbard the main running 463 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 2: back there, so you know what they're gonna do. You 464 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 2: know Bryce Young what he does back there in the pocket. 465 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 2: He's a guy that's mobile, do some things that're gonna 466 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 2: slow those guys down from being effective on offense. 467 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: I mean, whatever they do, Casey, you got to take 468 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 1: away Adam Thieling. He's got fifty seven catches on the season. 469 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's the only guy they've got on offense, 470 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: but he's the only guy they've got on offense. The 471 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: next closest guy in terms of catches as Jonathan Mingo 472 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 1: with nineteen. So you have to have a plan for 473 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: Adam Thieling. If the Colts get beat by Adam Thieling 474 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: in this game, that's gonna be a hard one to swallow, 475 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 1: because you knew going in he's really the only guy 476 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: that can be dangerous, you. 477 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,160 Speaker 3: Know, Adam Thieling. This is just a sidebar a little bit. 478 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 3: I was shocked to see the stats that he's put 479 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 3: up just because and this is I mean, I gotta 480 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 3: tip my cap to theling because honestly I thought this 481 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 3: was he's a veteran guy. They brought him in because 482 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 3: they're getting a rookie quarterback, and he's just kind of 483 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 3: gonna help him, kind of what like Reggie Wayne was 484 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 3: for Andrew Luck. You know, it's not necessarily like you're 485 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 3: gonna be our go to guy. You just on a 486 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 3: key third down, you know, maybe you get three or 487 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 3: four catches a game. Because I thought that's what Adam 488 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 3: Thln was. I thought he was towards the end of 489 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 3: his career. Yes, but boys, he proved me wrong. I 490 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 3: mean he's seventh in the league in receptions. I mean, 491 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 3: this guy is playing like he was back in twenty 492 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 3: eighteen nineteen with the Vikings. Yeah, you're spot on with that. 493 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 3: I mean, if you're looking at this Panthers team and 494 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 3: it's not feeling Thielen theling and then stopped feeling for 495 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 3: a fourth time, I don't know what else you're looking at, 496 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 3: because that is ultimately what their offense is. We've seen 497 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 3: Bryce Young. Yes, he had a storied college career. He 498 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:55,959 Speaker 3: looks like he has all the pieces to be a 499 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 3: really good quarterback in the NFL. Right now, he hasn't 500 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 3: shown all of that. Are still quirks he's trying to 501 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 3: tweak with and all of this. You've got to go 502 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 3: in and you've got to make sure that this guy 503 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 3: feels like a rookie. Show him things you haven't seen. 504 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 3: And this goes back to Frank Reich knows Gus Bradley. 505 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 3: But Gus Bradley knows Frank Reich, so it's kind of 506 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 3: a twofold thing where Gus is going to know in 507 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 3: a way. I know that the offense is going to 508 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 3: be different because the personnel is different, it's a different 509 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 3: play caller, all of that, but for the most part, 510 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 3: you're gonna be familiar with what Carolina is going to 511 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 3: do offensively. So, yes, you're spot on with Adam Thielen. 512 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 3: He's a guy that I got to say, really impressed 513 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 3: by what Adam Thlen has done. I thought this was 514 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 3: kind of his swan song. Go to a nice place 515 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 3: instead of Minnesota where it's cold, you. 516 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 1: Go to Carolina's vacation. Yeah, this is not it at all. 517 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 3: I mean, he's he's putting a case for a Pro 518 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 3: Bowl season, So you know, impressive by feeling, but you're 519 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 3: spot on. 520 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: He is the guy to stop and get after Bryce 521 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: Young and yeah, they're giving up an average of three 522 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 1: and a half sacks per game. He was taken down 523 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,400 Speaker 1: six times last week by the Houston Texans. Get after him, 524 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 1: get off to a good start behind the eight ball early, 525 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: generate some momentum. That's the recipe for success for the 526 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 1: Colts on Sunday, Speaking of momentum, a guy who's trying 527 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: to carry that momentum from a great season so far 528 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: into week number nine in Carolina. That's Matt Gay. He's 529 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: the Colts kicker. As promise he's gonna join us. He's 530 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: only missed two kicks all season. Mister clutch joins us 531 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 1: here on the Official Coults Podcast. We're joined in studio 532 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: by Colts kicker Matt Gay, mister automatic, mister consistency, mister clutch, 533 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: all the above here with us. Matthew, how are we 534 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: doing today? 535 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 4: Man? Thanks for the time, of course, thanks for having 536 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 4: me on. 537 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: Absolutely. Now, before we go further, I know we're gonna 538 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 1: we have different mediums here. We're on We're on video 539 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: on YouTube, but of course the audio portion on the 540 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,719 Speaker 1: Colts Audio Network. You gotta tell us what's going on here. 541 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: You've got some you got some remnants from Halloween there, 542 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: you got some some f. 543 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 4: The costume was supposed to be the Viking. Okay, so 544 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 4: we got tatted up. 545 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 5: If all he's on Amazon, they're actually pretty good. I 546 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 5: mean I got comeing neck tattoo. 547 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: I thought you spent the off day at the chair 548 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 1: the ink chair. 549 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 4: Yes, you would have thought. 550 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 5: I mean everyone was asking me, we're looking around, they 551 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 5: look good. I got a couple of questions. So I 552 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 5: mean from from Amazon, the qualities there. I mean I 553 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 5: got a full sleeve, a couple of neck tattoos that 554 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 5: are working out still. 555 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 2: But what did wife say about it? 556 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 4: Uh? 557 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 5: First she was a little like, oh you're a little 558 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 5: but she's she's coming on to them a little bit. 559 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: I think, like them, they're gonna they were fake. She 560 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: think you came home with some inspiration. 561 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 4: She definitely mean they're fake. 562 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 5: I don't think I have no tattoos that are real, 563 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 5: and so I think she's for me to be aggressive 564 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 5: and go get the neck tattoo. 565 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 4: And I think for the first tattoos. 566 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: That's awesome. Now are you a big Halloween guy? Like 567 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 1: what what did you do on Halloween? Did you go 568 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: all out? 569 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 4: Yeah? We went all out. 570 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 5: We were at the decorations up, got the kids dressed 571 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 5: up all day long. 572 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: Awesome. 573 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 5: I sold that I got all the good candy for them. 574 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 5: A little disappointed that it was so cold that we 575 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 5: didn't get a lot of tutors because. 576 00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,479 Speaker 4: I was I had the king size. I got all 577 00:25:59,520 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 4: of them. 578 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 5: I was going to hand out two or three per 579 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 5: a kid. And yeah, I don't even think we got 580 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 5: through the first bawl. I mean, I have so much 581 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 5: leftover candy. 582 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: What the heck are we doing? Why didn't you podcast? 583 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 4: I should have? 584 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 5: I'm going like I'm sneaking to the closet five times 585 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 5: a day. 586 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 1: Oh man, you are out and it's tempting. You got 587 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 1: to have some self discipline here in the time. I 588 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: remember in the early part, schedule, all of it. 589 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 4: So it's no good. 590 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's talk some ball here. You are having, 591 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: like I said, you're having a terrific season. On the year. 592 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 1: You are fourteen for sixteen on field goals, five over 593 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 1: six over fifty. I'm saying you're having a great year. 594 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 1: I know that you are your your your harshest critic. 595 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:39,360 Speaker 1: How do you feel like the year is going. 596 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's it's been pretty solid. I'd say 597 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 5: I'm a little disappointed to the one. I mean, the 598 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 5: one I miss against la Is forty seven. Yeah, and 599 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 5: I I mean that's it's just such a makeable kick. 600 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 5: I mean, I for sure should have made that one. 601 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 5: And then as a kicker, you hate that blocks go 602 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 5: against you. 603 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, and so you kind of look that. I think 604 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: the same thing. I think that should be its own category. 605 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 5: It's so hard to differentiate between yeah, what's your fault 606 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 5: and what's not. 607 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 4: Is it a low kick? Is it this and that? 608 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 4: And so you look at them. 609 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 5: I've looked at that kick with that I Miles get 610 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 5: I've looked at it, and I'm like, is there any 611 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 5: way that I'm making it? 612 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett is in your face mask as you're trying 613 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: to kick that. 614 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a big dude. So I hate that. 615 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 5: I mean that it take a lot to go in 616 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 5: to be like this was his fault, This wasn't his fault. 617 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 5: We don't count this against him. We do this on 618 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 5: this guy. So I understand it. But I mean the 619 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 5: one against La really is the one that I look 620 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 5: back and be like, I mean I should have made 621 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 5: that kick. Yeah, and so, uh, that's the one that 622 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 5: kind of sits there and he's at you. 623 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 4: So but I mean, overall, pretty solid. 624 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 2: So have you ever had anyone do what Miles Garrett 625 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 2: did that game? I mean previously when you kick with 626 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 2: other teams, or. 627 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 4: When you see guys do it in the past. 628 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 5: I mean, you used to be able to run up 629 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 5: and jump over, and they change the rules so now 630 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 5: you have to be on the line of scrimmage and 631 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 5: to do that and jump over. 632 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 4: I mean guys have attempted it. 633 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 5: I mean normally, if you get any piece of a guy, 634 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 5: if you staged there toe or their foot, throwing them 635 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 5: off balance, and to be able to get back in 636 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 5: the ground and jump back up is very, very difficult. 637 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 5: So credit to that dude. I mean, he's just he's 638 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 5: an absolute freaking nature. To be able to do that 639 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 5: at six six two eighty two eighty five whatever he is, 640 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 5: I mean, is unbelievable. But I've never had a block 641 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 5: like that. 642 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,679 Speaker 1: Now, Rigo Sanchez is your holder. He does a lot. Obviously, 643 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 1: he's been here for a long time. Great guy, he's 644 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 1: a great holder, is a great punter. But how much 645 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: how much is he helping you have a great season 646 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 1: so far? 647 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:32,200 Speaker 4: Oh, he's awesome. 648 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 5: I mean he's been able to be able to I 649 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 5: rememb right when I got here. Every kicker is different 650 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 5: with how they like the lean and the holds and stuff, 651 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 5: and so right from the get go, he was awesome 652 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 5: being able to like, Hey, what do you like? Let 653 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 5: me learn it, let me figure it out. And him 654 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,239 Speaker 5: and Luke are just workhorses, and so they just they 655 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 5: get a bunch of They're constantly getting snaps and be 656 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 5: able to figure it out and being able to tell him, 657 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 5: like with different conditions, hey, lean it a little this way, 658 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 5: a little this way. 659 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 4: He's been awesome. 660 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 5: And so just having the camaraderie and just being cool 661 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 5: dudes to be able to get along with, I mean, 662 00:28:58,440 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 5: it is sweet. 663 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 4: It's good to have with Luke Andrigo, all right. 664 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: Going along with that for you, because every every kicker 665 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: is different. You all have your different skill sets and anatomy, 666 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: if you will, in terms of of how you attack 667 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: the ball and what your strengths are for you, can 668 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: you define the perfect hold? 669 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 5: I would say straight up and down. As far as 670 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 5: backward or forward. I don't want it leaning backwards. 671 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 4: For me, I like it. 672 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 5: I don't know some kickers like it lean forward. I 673 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 5: like it straight up and down. And then for me, 674 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 5: I like just slightly. I mean, if we're not no conditions, 675 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 5: no end, we're indoors, slight lean. 676 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 4: To the right, okay, And why is that just with 677 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 4: a right foot of kicker? 678 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 5: The way you come into the angle. You don't want 679 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 5: the balls straight up and down. It'll generally roll off 680 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 5: the ankle cause a double hit, and that's what you 681 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 5: get the X balls or an ankle ball that goes left. 682 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 5: And so if it's leaned just a little bit, it'll 683 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 5: roll off the foot. So it rolls off, it avoids 684 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 5: the ankle and rolls off the foot pretty good. And 685 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 5: then for me, my miss, it is generally a toe 686 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 5: ball as opposed to ankle ball, so I hit it 687 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 5: lower on my foot. Hit a towball, and if that 688 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 5: ball is leaning more straight up and down as opposed 689 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 5: to like a toe ball with a lot of right 690 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 5: lying for the camera, a lot of rightly, and for me, 691 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:12,959 Speaker 5: the tip of the ball is what caused the rotation. 692 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 5: So a towball, you don't hit it clean, it'll start 693 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 5: to drift right. For me, if that ball is leaning 694 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 5: just a little bit, that towball generally stays true and 695 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 5: stays straight over the dsh yards and so it'll generally 696 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 5: still make it through if I do hit the. 697 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: Toe Sure, and people think you're just a kicker, Yeah, 698 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: just kick the ball. I'm serious. I'm fascinated by that. 699 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: I mean, all the science That goes into really. 700 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 2: And talking about that. When you get to a stadium, 701 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 2: a visiting stadium like this week, what is your routine 702 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 2: when you go to make a kick and warm up 703 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 2: to determine your preferential preferential direction you want to kick 704 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 2: and also the distance that you can kick going that way. 705 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, that gets into like I mean, you get out 706 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 5: their pregame and so you get out there. I try 707 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 5: not to look too much in the weather during the week. 708 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 5: Anything is opposed to like it's gonna be cold. 709 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 4: Okay, it's gonna be cold. 710 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 5: I know, like, hey, I'm probably gonna wear something, but 711 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 5: I don't change unless it's really really bad conditions. I 712 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 5: don't change my cleats, I don't change anything like that. So, 713 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 5: because the weather can be so misleading sometimes, hey, until 714 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:20,719 Speaker 5: you get there and you really can get out there 715 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 5: on the field and figure out what you're getting. I 716 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 5: don't really try to look too much into it. So 717 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 5: I get there, I get out on the field, see 718 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 5: what I'm dealing with, and then pregame. It's it's just 719 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 5: being able to get out there and hit different kicks 720 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 5: and see what the ball's doing, see if it's blowing 721 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 5: left or right. And then from there, I mean, then 722 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 5: you talk to Rego and say, hey, it's it's a 723 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 5: really heavy wind, let's change the lean or let's do 724 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 5: some different things. And then if it's in your face, 725 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 5: you obviously try and have the benefit of going with 726 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 5: the wind in the second quarter or fourth quarter, and 727 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 5: then just trusting your trusting your pregame and trusting your 728 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 5: process when you get out there for a kick. I 729 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 5: mean to do all the work pregame and say hey, 730 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 5: it's going left to right, and then being able to 731 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 5: trust that when you get out there is the big thing, like, hey, 732 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 5: this ball is gonna move right, and I got to 733 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 5: play it a little left and let the wind do 734 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 5: his thing and and trust that it's going to do that. 735 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: That's Matt Gay with us Colts kicker. Now you read 736 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: about kickers all the time, and you know some guys say, 737 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: I got I gotta put on my left sock first, 738 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: and I gotta put on my pants a certain way, 739 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: or before they run out before a kick, they got 740 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: a rabbit's foot they smuggled from the locker room to 741 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: to rub before they you know, go out for a kick. 742 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: Do you have any anything like that or you how superstitious, 743 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: are you. 744 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 5: I wouldn't say I'm super superstitious. I'm a little stitious, 745 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 5: a little sitious. There are certain things like you get 746 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 5: on a streak, and so you are the same cleats 747 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 5: you don't want to change. I'm not too big into 748 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 5: and a lot of that stuff. I mean, I grew 749 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 5: up playing soccer, and so yeah, I kind of have 750 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 5: a cleat addiction, and so okay, I wear a bunch 751 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 5: of different cleats and I'll switch them out, and so 752 00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 5: I've worn different cleats and things like that. The only 753 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 5: really thing that I try to do is, I mean, 754 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 5: right before the game, I I get out on the 755 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 5: field for warm ups, I call my wife. 756 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 4: I FaceTime my wife and my kids. 757 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 5: Awesome, very awesome, and so we I show my kids 758 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 5: the field. Yeah, we talked to her, and then after 759 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 5: warm ups and stuff. Right, but when we come in 760 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 5: for the game, with like thirtyish minutes before the game, 761 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 5: I call her again and we talked to her, and 762 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 5: she asked me how warmth to go, and we just 763 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 5: chat about it, and so I see the kids and 764 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 5: and then uh, that's. 765 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 4: Pretty that's pretty much. 766 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 5: And then before I go out for warm ups, I 767 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 5: always right before I get on the field, I always 768 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 5: take a knee and say a low prayer, And that's 769 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 5: pretty much the superstition that kind of goes into it. 770 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: That's just your routine that gets you in your right head. 771 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, they give see a little space. Is just being 772 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 4: able to just perspective on things. Yeah, you out there 773 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 4: for this thing. 774 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 5: But if I can have a grounding and what matters 775 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 5: my life, my family and my kids, that's the stuff 776 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 5: that really kind of keeps you ground. And so you 777 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 5: can go out there at the end of the day, 778 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 5: let it all hanging loose on the field and you 779 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 5: can live with what happens. 780 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. 781 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 1: Yeah done. 782 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 2: Now you talk about getting in your space before the game. 783 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 2: I think I heard you talk about when you go 784 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 2: to kick a kick a game winner, like in Baltimore, 785 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 2: you got in a blackout mode. 786 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 4: Yep. 787 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 2: What's blackout mode for you? 788 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 4: It's a state where you're just not. 789 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 5: There's nothing going on in your mind, like you're you're 790 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 5: just in rhythm. You're just you're out there, You're just 791 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 5: swinging the leg. 792 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 4: For me. 793 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 5: On a lot of a lot of those kicks, a 794 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 5: lot of the good kicks, I don't really remember much 795 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,240 Speaker 5: from what happened from the snat. So the snap happens, 796 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 5: and then next thing, you know, I'm kind of like 797 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,399 Speaker 5: in my finish and I'm looking up and the ball 798 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 5: is going. 799 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 4: I don't remember the ball hitting my foot. I don't 800 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 4: remember anything kind of going. 801 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:42,800 Speaker 1: Like outside your body, so to speak. 802 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,879 Speaker 5: Yeah, you're kind of just yeah, outside the body there, 803 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 5: but you're not there. 804 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's I mean. 805 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,800 Speaker 5: Some people think it's like a increased zone of focus 806 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,360 Speaker 5: or but it's kind of hard for me to understand 807 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 5: that because increase zone of focus would make me feel 808 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 5: like I would I'd be so low, like I would 809 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 5: know what the ball looks like, I would know this 810 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 5: and I would. So it's it's different from me when 811 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 5: I more relate to like the basketball players or mikel. 812 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:09,319 Speaker 4: Dwin. 813 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 5: You say like, oh, he's unconscious, like he can't miss, 814 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 5: and you're kind of unconn like you're not in your 815 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 5: own get out of your own way type of thing. Yeah, Like, 816 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,360 Speaker 5: and I'm just letting my body do what I've trained 817 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 5: and do what I know how to do. 818 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 4: And again I just don't. I don't really, I just 819 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 4: don't really remember. 820 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 2: You're not thinking about I need to place my foot 821 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 2: my plant foot here and hit the ball here. You 822 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:29,320 Speaker 2: just go and just do it. 823 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, just going and doing not I mean the thing 824 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 5: over analysis to a paralysis, like you think about too 825 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 5: many things. You can't go and perform. Like if I'm 826 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 5: trying to place the ball through the uprights, it's not 827 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 5: gonna end up very well as opposed to just like 828 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 5: picking a spot and swinging away. When you try to 829 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 5: like place it, then you you don't swing as hard 830 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,879 Speaker 5: and you take things off and things change and that's 831 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 5: when things smith hits and stuff like that come into play. 832 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 5: And so I just try to I don't know, just 833 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 5: getting that zone. 834 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever been in that zone really. 835 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 1: I mean the way you're just describing it is why 836 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 1: you are where you are. You You are an elite 837 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 1: athlete and elite player at your position. That's why Bill 838 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 1: and I while Bill, you are You're in the ring 839 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: of honor. That's why I'm sitting here on the couch, 840 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 1: all right. That's why I'm doing a podcast right now. 841 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,320 Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. Now. The Miles Garrett play aside, 842 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,399 Speaker 1: the Colts roll you out for a sixty yard field goal, 843 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,439 Speaker 1: which means they think you can make it. How much 844 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 1: confidence does that give you when it comes to their 845 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 1: confidence in you? Like right, confidence is earned, but it's 846 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 1: also received. I mean the fact that the Colts were 847 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 1: going to kick a fifty or a sixty yard field 848 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 1: goal with you, I'm blown away because of their trust 849 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 1: and their their confidence level and your ability to do that. 850 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's awesome. 851 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 5: I mean normally you don't field positions such a huge 852 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 5: thing and football, and so normally are those positions. 853 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 4: You're going to try and especially I mean yeahs. 854 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,839 Speaker 1: Not and to have not in the game it's game 855 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: that means Yeah, that means they're going to get the 856 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 1: ball if you miss it at the fifty. 857 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,319 Speaker 5: Second quarter, right, So for them to go out there 858 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 5: and send me out for that gives me a lot 859 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 5: of confidence. I mean, I think some of the stuffs 860 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 5: play the game and what happens on the stuff before. 861 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 5: I think we were right a couple of yards we 862 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 5: were probably would have been a fifty five or fifty 863 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 5: four before that end up taking a sack and so 864 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 5: I think in their minds they were already thinking field 865 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 5: goal and then take the sack. And so I don't 866 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,319 Speaker 5: know how much goes into like, hey, we already had 867 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 5: field goal up call field goal, and so from me 868 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 5: the sideline, I see the sack and I'm thinking, okay, 869 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 5: we might punt here, and they still go field goal, 870 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 5: and so for me, I'm just like, let's go. 871 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 4: Let's I'm so I'm stoked to go kick a sixty. 872 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,839 Speaker 1: I hit it good too, well, you hit it right 873 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 1: to Miles Garrett. 874 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 5: When that's one of those things where I like, you 875 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 5: just know it came off the foot good, and so 876 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 5: that's so. 877 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 1: That was gonna be good. Get yeah, I'm saying you 878 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 1: made the field goal. I'm saying that was that was 879 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 1: gonna be good. 880 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 5: Uh. I think it's it's a lot of confidence just 881 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,440 Speaker 5: to have them, you know, send me out there and 882 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,359 Speaker 5: trust you, and so you just you gain confidence from 883 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:53,359 Speaker 5: all those situations, those. 884 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:53,799 Speaker 4: Things all right. 885 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 1: Now, Going along with that, when do you start when 886 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 1: do you start to get up when the when the 887 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 1: Colts have the ball, when they're on off, When do 888 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 1: you start to get antsy? Is it when they cross 889 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 1: the fifty or what's what's the line of demarcation on 890 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 1: the field, When you start to psychologically get ready for 891 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 1: a potential kick. 892 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 5: Generally, well, me and Rigo we have the net on 893 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 5: sideline and we kind of are both kicking the same 894 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 5: way into the net. And so generally when we're backed 895 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 5: up or in our own territory, he's punting and I'm 896 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 5: just chilling. 897 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 4: I'm sitting down, I'm hanging out. 898 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 5: And then generally across the fifties when we make the 899 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 5: switch and I start kicking into the net and he 900 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 5: starts getting a couple holds, so and then that's just 901 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 5: like I get a kick on first down, second down, okay, 902 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 5: third down, probably another one. Then I'm go stand on 903 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,839 Speaker 5: the sideline. It's like, all right, got it, first down, cool, 904 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 5: I go back to the net. Hit another one, Okay, 905 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,919 Speaker 5: third down again, hit another one, first down. So yeah, yeah, 906 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 5: the drive, you're just kind of staying ready, saying warm 907 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 5: for me. I mean, that's that's the biggest battle, is 908 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,799 Speaker 5: staying warm throughout the game, sure, because i mean we 909 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 5: get out there probably two hours before the game, so 910 00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 5: we're six hours probably total of just kicking and staying warm, 911 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,359 Speaker 5: and so just being able to keep the leg fresh 912 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 5: ready to go out there, and you don't want to 913 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 5: go out there cold for sure, and being able to 914 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 5: hit a couple in the net and go and then 915 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 5: obviously third down numbers called a year on out there 916 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:12,839 Speaker 5: and try to make a kick. 917 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, try to make a kick. 918 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,319 Speaker 2: Now, this is your second stint with the Coats. What 919 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,880 Speaker 2: have you learned about yourself as a kicker in the 920 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 2: National Football League from the first time you were here? 921 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 2: After you've gone to the Rams and yeah, and other teams. 922 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 5: All I say, my time here in Indie, the first 923 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 5: time I was here was probably one of the most 924 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 5: important times for me in my whole career because I 925 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 5: went through my rookie year in Tampa. Yeah, up and down, 926 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 5: rookie year, a lot of you know, good, a lot 927 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 5: of bad. End the year on a bad note there, 928 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:50,839 Speaker 5: go through the next preseason, they cut me and there 929 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,880 Speaker 5: was a lot of stuff going going on in Tampa 930 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,920 Speaker 5: that probably just wasn't great for me as opposed to 931 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:58,839 Speaker 5: my just my own self and just like the thing 932 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:00,400 Speaker 5: that I was doing. And so when I left Tampa 933 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 5: made a couple of changes as far as technique goes 934 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 5: and things go that I was working on. And when 935 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:12,319 Speaker 5: I left Tampa was actually like like a it was just. 936 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:13,759 Speaker 4: More like a relief type thing. 937 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,479 Speaker 5: Honestly, it was kind of like Okay, Like I feel 938 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:21,359 Speaker 5: like I was trying to be someone else and they 939 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 5: were trying to make me be someone else and mold 940 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 5: me into something as opposed to like me just kind 941 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,239 Speaker 5: of doing my thing and kicking how I want to 942 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 5: kick and perform on my own headspace. So when I 943 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,319 Speaker 5: got here to be on practice squad and being able 944 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 5: to have them, you know, have confidence in me being 945 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 5: able to honestly just kick throughout the week without the 946 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,799 Speaker 5: stress and pressure of going out on Sundays, to just 947 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 5: be able to work on things throughout the week and 948 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,319 Speaker 5: be able to go out there and like have guys like, oh, 949 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 5: tell you you know you're doing a good job, and 950 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 5: being able to work through some things and be able 951 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:53,399 Speaker 5: to kind. 952 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,839 Speaker 4: Of kick free was for eightish weeks and. 953 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 5: Something like that was really important for me to I think, 954 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,839 Speaker 5: gain confidence and get back to I was and work 955 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 5: through a couple of things without like, yeah, say they 956 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 5: signed me and I was active that week to go 957 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 5: out there and kick on Sunday and be like still 958 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 5: trying to tweak a couple of things or go out 959 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,399 Speaker 5: there after kind of what happened in Tampa. I think 960 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 5: that time offered me to be able to work on 961 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 5: things was huge. And so by the time I got 962 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 5: the call from La and went to La, i'd you know, 963 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 5: perfected and you were ready, was ready to actually go 964 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,759 Speaker 5: back out on the field and game some of the 965 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 5: stuff that I've been working on and the confidence that 966 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 5: I've been. 967 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,720 Speaker 1: Building based on that time you spent on the Colts 968 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 1: practice squad during that twenty twenty season. How much did 969 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,320 Speaker 1: that time influence or play a part in your decision 970 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 1: to want to come back to the Colts and free 971 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 1: agency this past off season. 972 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 4: I think it's huge. 973 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 5: I think you make connections when you're here. I think 974 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 5: you know, you have relationships you have. I think things 975 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 5: changed in three years, but you have some familiarities, some 976 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 5: familiar faces. 977 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,280 Speaker 4: In the building. I knew Luke, I knew Rego. 978 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:00,880 Speaker 5: Chris was still the GM, and so that played a 979 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,799 Speaker 5: big part with him and my agent, and he knew 980 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 5: Chris knew me, and he's seeing film on me, and 981 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,920 Speaker 5: so I think that played a big part in being 982 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,320 Speaker 5: able to be like, Okay, well, if this does happen, 983 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 5: maybe Indy's gonna come. I've been there before, they know me, 984 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 5: and so I think that plays a big part into 985 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,920 Speaker 5: making those decisions is you know, we've been there before, 986 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 5: we somewhat know the area ish and have some familiar 987 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 5: faces in the building. 988 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,839 Speaker 4: That was kind of all key critical moments. 989 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:32,920 Speaker 5: Is supposed to just go into a completely new situation 990 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:34,719 Speaker 5: and we feel a little bit more comfortable. Come on 991 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 5: to a place where you did a little stint and 992 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,439 Speaker 5: you know a couple of people and have a few 993 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 5: familiar faces. 994 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,319 Speaker 1: Oh, Matt you're You're an amazing guy. You have a 995 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,759 Speaker 1: great story. I could literally I could sit here all 996 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 1: day and talk ball with you, talk about your background 997 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,759 Speaker 1: in Utah and playing soccer, the switch to football. But 998 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,840 Speaker 1: as draw automatic here, he's fourteen out of sixteen. Like 999 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,759 Speaker 1: we said five over six over fifty, but really he's 1000 00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,719 Speaker 1: six over six because the Miles Garrett asterisk there. He's 1001 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 1: not superstitious, he's a little stitches. Remember that. 1002 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:03,359 Speaker 4: Now. 1003 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 1: That's Matt Gay here with us in studio. Matthew, thank 1004 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 1: you so much for the time. Always a pleasure to 1005 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 1: sit and talk ball with you. And good luck on Sunday. 1006 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:11,359 Speaker 4: Thanks for haming on, guys, appreciate it. 1007 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 1: Thanks again to Matt Gay. Awesome conversation. I mean I'm 1008 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,600 Speaker 1: not joking, I could I could spend another hour talking 1009 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,520 Speaker 1: to him about the science of kicking and how he's 1010 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 1: gotten to where he is and his background in Utah. 1011 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,359 Speaker 1: Just that was fun. Tremendous guy, You have a really 1012 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,239 Speaker 1: good conversation. I love talking to those specialists because they're 1013 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:30,799 Speaker 1: kind of out of side, out of mind for most 1014 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,880 Speaker 1: of the game until they're needed exactly know, they come 1015 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:35,719 Speaker 1: up clutch. I was not going to bring this up 1016 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,280 Speaker 1: in front of him because I'm not a big believer 1017 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 1: in jinxing, and I don't know if Matt was or is, 1018 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,359 Speaker 1: so I didn't want to do this in front of him. 1019 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 1: But Matt Gay has made twenty four consecutive fuel goals 1020 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 1: on the road, and the Colts go on the road 1021 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 1: in each of the next two games. He has not 1022 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,920 Speaker 1: missed a fueld goal as a member of the away team, 1023 00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,160 Speaker 1: either with the Colts or with the Rams since Week 1024 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,799 Speaker 1: seventeen of twenty twenty one. Okay, I'm not a jink Sky, 1025 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,879 Speaker 1: so don't at me on Sunday if the Colts miss 1026 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:07,880 Speaker 1: a fuel goal. I don't want to hear it because 1027 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 1: me talking has nothing to do with the outcome of 1028 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 1: someone's actions. All Right, It's just really, let's let's live 1029 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:18,279 Speaker 1: in really No, come on, No, I am not a 1030 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,239 Speaker 1: jink Sky, but I didn't I did. I want to 1031 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,359 Speaker 1: respect Matt if if he is. I agree with you 1032 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 1: on that. All right, let's close it out Week number nine. 1033 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 1: Let's call our shots. Some walk off predictions here about 1034 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,160 Speaker 1: the game on Sundays. The Cults are trying to get 1035 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,520 Speaker 1: back on the right track and snapped this three game 1036 00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:36,240 Speaker 1: losing skid, Casey Valier, I'm going with you, then, Bill, 1037 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 1: then me, I want your guarantees. Give me one guarantee 1038 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 1: about the Colts and Panthers on Sunday. 1039 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 3: My one guarantee is the Colts run the ball. They 1040 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,120 Speaker 3: run the ball effectively, they win time of possession. You 1041 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:51,879 Speaker 3: see Jonathan Taylor have maybe two touchdowns. He has one 1042 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 3: touchdown on the year. I know he's itching to get 1043 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:54,839 Speaker 3: back in the end zone. 1044 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,960 Speaker 1: No, I need a solid guarantee. Okay, proclaim, proclaim. 1045 00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,880 Speaker 3: I'm saying Jonathan Taylor runs one and two scores and 1046 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 3: the Colts win handily on Sunday. 1047 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 2: All right, Bill, Wow, my guarantee not very good against 1048 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:10,479 Speaker 2: the run o the Panthers. No, they're my guarantee. Coat 1049 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:14,960 Speaker 2: score minimum twenty four points okay, and Josh Downs has 1050 00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,680 Speaker 2: a touchdown all right back in his North Carolina era. 1051 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,480 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, good, great call, great call. The tar 1052 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 1: Hill going back home. My guarantee this is kind of soft, 1053 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,080 Speaker 1: but it's it's kind of big picture. The Panthers are 1054 00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:30,439 Speaker 1: gonna play there, you know what off for Frank Reich. 1055 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 1: That's my guarantee. Yeah, those guys are going to bring it. 1056 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,280 Speaker 1: They're gonna bust their tails. It's gonna be a dogfight. 1057 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,560 Speaker 1: I know they're one in six. I know they've been 1058 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,799 Speaker 1: outscored by seventy two points on the season. I know 1059 00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 1: they've lost four games by double figures. But this is 1060 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:49,400 Speaker 1: the n f L. Anything can happen any given Sunday. 1061 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 1: And you know those guys, Frank's not gonna come out 1062 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,560 Speaker 1: and say it, because that's not Frank's way, that's not 1063 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,719 Speaker 1: how he's wired. But every leader within that Panthers locker 1064 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,440 Speaker 1: room is going to galvanize the troops and guys. We 1065 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,759 Speaker 1: won last week, we got a little bit of momentum. 1066 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,400 Speaker 1: Let's get this done for our head coach who was 1067 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,759 Speaker 1: fired in the middle of the season last year by 1068 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,719 Speaker 1: the team we're playing on Sunday. That's coming into our house. 1069 00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,080 Speaker 1: They're going to be fired up. That stadium is going 1070 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 1: to be going nuts. I guarantee they give everything they 1071 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,080 Speaker 1: have to beat the Colts. And you know what Frank's doing. 1072 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,920 Speaker 1: He's doing what he did in twenty eighteen the Colts 1073 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,200 Speaker 1: were one and five, got on a roll. They were 1074 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,960 Speaker 1: one in four to start twenty twenty one, they got 1075 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,359 Speaker 1: on a roll. I don't want to say he's used 1076 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:35,840 Speaker 1: to this, but he knows been there before. And thank listen, 1077 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:40,520 Speaker 1: the NFC South is maybe the worst division in football. 1078 00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,600 Speaker 1: It's it's not hyperbole. It's not out of the question 1079 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,160 Speaker 1: to say that at one in six they still have 1080 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,240 Speaker 1: a chance to get one hundred percent and win their division. 1081 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,279 Speaker 1: That's what he's preaching this locker room, and I guarantee 1082 00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,080 Speaker 1: you those guys are believing it and they're gonna bust 1083 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 1: their tails to beat the Colts. 1084 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,720 Speaker 3: No, completely agree, and that's you know you said about Frank. 1085 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,200 Speaker 3: I mean, this isn't a but this is comfort zone. 1086 00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,879 Speaker 3: I mean, he slow starts is kind of what we 1087 00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:05,399 Speaker 3: I mean, nobody. 1088 00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:12,319 Speaker 1: Likes them, no comfort I know what you mean, but. 1089 00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:16,080 Speaker 3: This is he's not it's not unfamiliar terrorists, right, Frank 1090 00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,080 Speaker 3: so we all know what Frank w Reich is, I 1091 00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:22,440 Speaker 3: mean as a human being, as a leader, those guys 1092 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,600 Speaker 3: you know in that locker room, everybody you talked, I 1093 00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:26,600 Speaker 3: mean we talked about it in the Colts locker room. 1094 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,880 Speaker 3: Nobody had anything but wonderful things to say about Frank 1095 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 3: and how this is a business trip. But we're excited 1096 00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,520 Speaker 3: to go see coach Frank. We're excited to go talk to, 1097 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,319 Speaker 3: you know, the guy who meant so much to a 1098 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,880 Speaker 3: lot of these guys. And these guys you've seen what 1099 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:42,840 Speaker 3: he's done in this locker room. I can only imagine 1100 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,839 Speaker 3: what looks like in that Panthers locker room. So now, Matt, 1101 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:47,720 Speaker 3: I think you're spot on with what what you're. 1102 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:55,359 Speaker 1: Expecting guaranty of damn Bill Brooks right there, Bill Brooks, Now, 1103 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:59,880 Speaker 1: if you're used to hearing and watching Bill at one o'clock, right, 1104 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,080 Speaker 1: should say at ten am for a one o'clock got 1105 00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,520 Speaker 1: to readjust your schedule here, Yeah, because this is the 1106 00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 1: only time all season the Colts play in the four 1107 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,279 Speaker 1: o'clock windows. So Bill is gonna be bumped back a 1108 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:15,360 Speaker 1: couple of hours. On the pregame show, Bill Brooks, get yeah. 1109 00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,560 Speaker 3: This time and then the next week, it's no sleep 1110 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,719 Speaker 3: for that Patriots game and both extremes. 1111 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,200 Speaker 1: Bill Brooks starts on the pregame huddle at three, Casey 1112 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,400 Speaker 1: or I should say, at one. I beg your pardon, 1113 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,840 Speaker 1: I see I think I just got so used. I 1114 00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,720 Speaker 1: started at one o'clock Casey valet, and countdown to kickoff 1115 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,000 Speaker 1: begins at three. I think I started four. Yeah, I 1116 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,759 Speaker 1: think so. I think we were to go all right. 1117 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,640 Speaker 1: But it's the Colts and Panthers, both teams coming off 1118 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:46,719 Speaker 1: a grueling game. Obviously the Panthers won, the Colts with 1119 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,959 Speaker 1: a setback, trying to get back to five hundred before 1120 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,480 Speaker 1: the bye week. But one at a time in Carolina 1121 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,759 Speaker 1: on Sunday, and we will talk to you next week 1122 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,719 Speaker 1: getting ready for the Colts and the Patriots before we 1123 00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,719 Speaker 1: head around the globe to Germany to get ready for 1124 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,800 Speaker 1: that game internationally. And we will do it again next Thursday, 1125 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,600 Speaker 1: talking Colts football here on the Official Colts podcast on 1126 00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,120 Speaker 1: YouTube and the Colts Audio Network, brought to you by 1127 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:09,239 Speaker 1: when bet so Long