00:00:08 Speaker 1: And I invited you here. I thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest in my home, you gotta come to me empty. And I said, no guests, you're o presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff, So how do you dare to surbey me? 00:00:47 Speaker 2: Welcome to, I said, no gifts. I'm Bridger Wineger. 00:00:53 Speaker 3: Oh. 00:00:54 Speaker 2: The party absolutely rages on. We're in the backyard. The neighbors were using a you know, a variety of high powered tools doing something back there. I'm not quite sure what, but it feels like they've stopped, and we'll just pray that they are done with their reno for the day, and if not, we'll just see what happens. But let's get into the podcast. The guest is so funny and fantastic. It's Timothy Simon's tim Welcome to, I said, no gifts. 00:01:24 Speaker 3: I'm so happy to be here. I was brought into this a lot earlier than I thought I was. I thought the introduction was going to be much longer. 00:01:30 Speaker 2: Well, you know, I had a rich morning. I folded laundry and played Nintendo, so there's not much left. 00:01:37 Speaker 3: To talk about. What'd you play? 00:01:39 Speaker 2: I played Wave Race sixty four. If you must ask, have you ever played this game? 00:01:43 Speaker 3: Waverider sixty four, Wave Race waves Lace four sixty four. 00:01:46 Speaker 2: It's about it's maybe one of the best video games ever made Nintendo sixty four. It was on Nintendo sixty four and they've recently re released It's right, right, you've never played it. I haven't, tim Do you play video games? 00:02:01 Speaker 3: I do? Did you have it when you were a kid? 00:02:03 Speaker 2: Oh? 00:02:03 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, And it's but. 00:02:05 Speaker 2: I'll say it holds up aged like a fine wine. 00:02:09 Speaker 3: This thing is. 00:02:10 Speaker 2: It's a real vibe and you're on your little jet ski flying around. It's so hard, but you put on some music in the background, or put on the game soundtrack, which is really good. 00:02:21 Speaker 3: I'm now just recor listener. You've got to play Wave Race sixty four. Is this brought to you by This is by Nintendo Switches emulator. 00:02:33 Speaker 2: Absolutely the sponsored sponsored not a post, but will eventually become a post. But it is a sponsored podcast by Wave Race sixty four. As far as it's kind of a service project, I'm running here for the video game. 00:02:47 Speaker 3: I don't want to tell I obviously am not. I didn't come here today to tell you how to do your job, but it feels like there should be like some proactive reaching out to the waverider people. 00:02:59 Speaker 2: Tim, Tim, Tim, it's wave Race, wave Race. I'm so see this is like but see, this is why I have got to get the word out. They've got to get the word out. Yes, we've got to raise awareness, you know, help people with their wave race literacy. 00:03:14 Speaker 3: Can I ask you a follow up question? 00:03:15 Speaker 2: I would love I mean, I've never spoken publicly as far as I know about Rave Race sixty four, so I'm happy to is. 00:03:22 Speaker 3: Is today the first day that you've played it in like of late of late? 00:03:27 Speaker 2: No, let's see what's we're currently recording on Monday. I believe Saturday was the day that I had to edit an episode of this podcast, and so or I mean, Honaly's our producer, does the real editing. I had to listen through, so I thought I'll play wave Race while listening. Perfect experience, okay, outside of having to hear my own voice, but the rest of that was nice. 00:03:48 Speaker 3: Do you think I have another follow up question not related to Wave Race? Okay, let's so, do you think this is the kind of thing like are you do you think it's going to be a day to day thing for you, or is it just going to like last a week. Can then kind of fade out, like are you able to save your progress? Are you looking to beat your own time? 00:04:04 Speaker 2: That's an excellent question. I never I'm not this sort of person who looks to beat their own times. 00:04:08 Speaker 3: Okay, but I do. 00:04:11 Speaker 2: I can imagine this being maybe a weekly or every other week. Maybe there's a new album to listen to that I want to hear, or a podcast I want to listen to, and this is the thing I put on while listening. Okay, it's I mean, I'm telling you this thing is ageless, timeless, classic. 00:04:27 Speaker 3: Okay. Oh is there are there like some jumps and flips in. 00:04:31 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're doing flips, You're doing handstands. 00:04:33 Speaker 3: I think I may have I think I may have played with you. 00:04:35 Speaker 2: I just figured if we talked about it for twenty minutes, I would finally uncover this memory for you. Yeah, what sort of video games are you playing? 00:04:42 Speaker 3: I'm going to answer that question. Okay. I'm not trying to like, I'm not trying to like vague away from it or be like this is not something I want to talk about. So like pleasantly. I'm trying to just change the something, you know what I mean, I'm not trying to like stick to talking right right right. 00:04:55 Speaker 2: You were sent here by Nintendo. 00:04:57 Speaker 3: Yes, So when you say that you were editing and that analyst does most of the editing, and how much editing are you actually doing it after? After it depends? 00:05:09 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm I'll usually hear like a small thing and ask for it to be removed, or like, oh this is a little slow, can we speed this up? But I try to keep as little editing out of the process as possible. 00:05:21 Speaker 3: Okay. 00:05:22 Speaker 2: Annalise obviously cleans up the audio and then sends it to me, and I just make sure it's not the worst thing in the world. So you do listen to it all the way through, all the way through, and sometimes that's a chat. I do not like listening to my own voice, and so it's like I really have to psych myself up and have a decent amount of coffee and find something. And in this case and probably every other future case, wave race six. 00:05:44 Speaker 3: Times cold, okay, And you're able to do the two things at once, are able to like use both those parts of your brain and not have one suffer. 00:05:51 Speaker 2: I think that, like with a racing video game, or like I'll occasionally pay a Tetris while doing it, it doesn't require that much concentration. 00:05:59 Speaker 3: Yeah, are you a Tetris player? 00:06:01 Speaker 2: I was. I had like a a game boy, I guess right, the green one with the green screen or later version of the green screen. Almost impossible to say. Played that my parents wouldn't let us have video games. Like we didn't have a Nintendo or a Nintendo sixty four. Okay, so I was we I don't know, like I had to go over to friends houses. So like, all of these things are sort of tenuous until I got to. 00:06:24 Speaker 3: College, right like crazy, and then I went I went a little bit crazy and then but now I mean, like I think now I will there is I've been playing a lot of Breath of the Wild, Oh wonderful. I like, I think getting a switch for my kids last summer. It reminds me of why video games are fun. It seemed like fun video games. 00:06:45 Speaker 2: Again, right, A lot of video games I don't find fun at all. No, I find them kind of miserable experiences that make me anxious or not. They're just not enjoyable. And a lot of people love that sort. 00:06:55 Speaker 3: Of and I think that's great, Like the Grinders, those people who were like, I'm gonna put four hundred hours, Like I would have loved to have been one of those people. 00:07:02 Speaker 2: I would love to get sucked into a thing like that. 00:07:03 Speaker 3: Could you imagine? Could you imagine honestly enjoying anything that much? 00:07:10 Speaker 2: I am sitting here and I'm gonna look at you. I absolutely cannot imagine. I have. This is a weekly struggle for me where I'm like, there has to be one thing on planet Earth that I can enjoy that will like take up time that I'll be like, oh, I'm immersed. This is all I think about. I mean, it probably speaks to greater problems in my brain that I'm struggling to find something like that. Probably, I mean the last thing was probably Breath. 00:07:35 Speaker 3: Of the Wild. Breath of the Wild is incredible. 00:07:38 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I mean, it's a real and it's because it's like just challenging enough that are like activates your brain. But it's not like stressing me out or making me unhappy. 00:07:47 Speaker 3: Like when I hear about what Elden ring where oh oh I hear about that, and I'm like it sounds like it would be so great, but I just I can't do it. 00:07:55 Speaker 2: It's another life. It's another life. It's like having a secret family or something. Thinking awful at this one, like a goddamn so have you finished Breath of the Wild? No, I mean, like I think right now, I'm just kind of running around trying to grab some temples, trying to get up those spires that give you the mass, you know what I mean, the tower things out in the yes, right, you go up with then a little blue drop falls down down. 00:08:19 Speaker 3: The sound effect is lovely. I kind of wish that they'd like, maybe bring that down. This is again for all our Nintendo executive listeners, like kind of maybe like we don't need that little you know, side cut animation every time. 00:08:32 Speaker 2: You know, yeah, you eventually get it. I like, okay, and even like. 00:08:36 Speaker 3: They like press the little plus thing to skip, you know what I mean, just just skip it? Yeah? 00:08:41 Speaker 2: Yeah, if the skip is available, why is it there in the first place. Let's just get rid of it. I'll tell you something, super darky. I would love to hear something there is a like a somewhat I was going to say hyper realistic, but that's not true. But a realism is its goal golf video game that's coming out uh in next month that I'm actually like really exciting. And so when you say realism is its goal, what does that mean? Because I've I think probably the last golf video game I played was probably on Windows ninety eight and was like a weird little cardboard cut animation ruy, and you have to make sure the thing gets right in the middle of the swing. And then so when you're this realistic video game, what do your golfing game? What does that mean? 00:09:25 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, like I guess when I'm saying that, it's less Tiger Woods eight where you could just hit like, you know, four hundred, you're always like making holes in one on part fives and stuff like that. Right, it's just kind of got a little bit like Arcadian cartoonish and also like Mario Golf on Switch. I love Mario. Mario Golf is great, right, but like that is just like our Arcadie fun. Like this is like you play a PGA Tour season and you have to pick the right clubs and yeah, you know you probably you probably able to like as you get better, you know, you find your accuracy gets a little bit better. Right, you're trying to work on all aspects of the game. 00:10:01 Speaker 2: Are you riding around in the golf cart? Is the whole experience? Well, obviously not, because on the PGA tour they walk. 00:10:08 Speaker 3: They don't use my ignorance. What kind of question is, oh, blast right now? They walk the entire time. Yeah, they walk the entire time. That's part of the challenge. 00:10:18 Speaker 2: I don't want to climb to the top of that mountain and then have to walk the whole way. Ione and you can do whatever, but somebody should be driving me around. If I'm a PGA level person, I should get any form of transportation I want. 00:10:30 Speaker 3: You're not. Wait, so you're saying during the rent. 00:10:33 Speaker 2: During the rounds, once I've hit the ball, I should get onto my vehicle of choice, be it motorcycle, wave, race, vehicle, race, golf cart, and they drive me to wherever I need to go. 00:10:45 Speaker 3: In my head, one of my kids does this thing where they're like they come up to me and they're pretty big now, so this is getting harder. They're like Papa chair, And what that means is I carry them in front of me like they're sitting in a chair and I walk around the house It's like it's like a king being like Cleopata being delivered. That's what I've tatured, somebody carrying you down a golf course like you're like Philip chair and just getting carried down. 00:11:19 Speaker 2: But why become a PGA level person if not to have someone carry you around like pa or what do your kids call you? Uh, papa, papa? And that's what I would call my what is the person that helps you in golfing caddy? 00:11:32 Speaker 3: The caddy? I was like papa. 00:11:34 Speaker 2: I would call my caddy papa, and then this person would carry me around the course. I don't see anything wrong with that. 00:11:40 Speaker 3: I you know, I fail to see a flaw in it as well, And. 00:11:45 Speaker 2: If anyone else does, I guess I just won't try getting to that level. 00:11:49 Speaker 3: There's got to be something in it for you. 00:11:51 Speaker 2: There's there must simply must be something other than being the best golfer in the world. They do fly around on private jets a lot, that's true. They get and they get a jacket. 00:12:00 Speaker 3: Is that correct? Some sort if you win get a jacket when there are like specific tournaments where you can win a jacket, Oh, you don't just get one? 00:12:08 Speaker 2: And is the jacket pre made before the thing, so it's like ill fitting when you win it, or do they customize it to or is the jacket just an idea. 00:12:17 Speaker 3: I know the jacket is the jacket is very literal. Okay, okay, these are not people. These are not people that think in metaphits. These are not like these are not like esoteric or what is the meaning of this? Or like that's a jacket and put it on when you're here. They're so literal about the jacket that you can't wear the jacket anywhere else. Wait where do you get to wear the jacket the jack You can only wear it when you're at Augusta National and then they lock it up. Well, I think they just hang it up. 00:12:48 Speaker 2: There's just one jacket. 00:12:50 Speaker 3: No, well there's one jacket, like per person. I don't know, one jacket, Yeah, one jacket per person. I think if it rips or breaks, you can get another. 00:12:56 Speaker 2: Jacket, a tailored or whatever. You But like I have been to the mask and they are so that they care about the jackets. Do the jackets evolve with fashion and time or there is always the same jacket. 00:13:09 Speaker 3: It's always the same jacket, the same cup, the set. I don't know, here's the one thing I would say, the logo and the jack Oh there they are, Oh nice? What is that tool that I think is a like a router? Oh and what does that do? Or it's a my neighbor did this to there during the middle of the pandemic, right in the fucking right in the middle of it. 00:13:39 Speaker 2: Well that kind of like right in the middle of a podcast, kind. 00:13:41 Speaker 3: Of like right in the middle of the podcast. They started refinishing there. 00:13:45 Speaker 2: How long did this project go on? 00:13:47 Speaker 3: A fucking month? And it was the kind of noise that was like there was one time I was on mushrooms and a fire alarm went off, and it was what they figured out, like what if we what if we made a fire alarm? That was like your body tells you you cannot be in this space anymore. It's not like a suggestion. It is like it is them saying like, no, you're not allowed here by checks being there. And that's what that noise is. And it went on for a month and it got to the point you're. 00:14:24 Speaker 2: Already on edge. I mean, yeah, mid pandemic, mid pandemic. Okay, we have a few things to discuss, yes quickly, Yeah, we've got to get back to the jacket. I do want to know where you were on mushrooms when the alarm went off. 00:14:36 Speaker 3: I was at I can't remember exactly what they're called, but they were basically the North Side apartment villages at my college. So if you were on the south side, that'd be York Village. So it was like the North End equivalent of York Village. So if there was anybody like an if you have any like University of Main listeners, the. 00:14:55 Speaker 2: Entire audiences of mum good. Yeah, but we make sure they graduate before they get to listen, so, uh, these people know exactly what you're talking about. 00:15:07 Speaker 3: So we're up there at those sort of like apartments, but you're still on campus kind of thing, right. I think it was really close to the time when I mean, like, I am going to date myself with this, but it doesn't matter. It was when al Gore was like the two thousand and whatever election or lost to George Bush and Jello by Afra came to the U of M campus and was like, you guys should vote for Nader and we were like fuck yeah, oh boy. It was so if you ever want to know how fucking susceptible that just some indie rock shit had coming in and being like we do this. We were like, yeah, we fucking will Jello by Alfra. 00:15:44 Speaker 2: I mean, if somebody shows up in person, they're gonna they may sway you. I got tricked into signing a petition recently, simply because it was a person to person contact, and I told the person, I hope you're not tricking man. They said, we're not tricking you. Later on I learned I was tricked. 00:15:58 Speaker 3: Of course you were. This happened. I admire that that you're like, look, I'm gonna be upfront about this, like you can hurt. You're like a dog exposing its belly in that moment, just like hurt me. I don't care. I just need connection, right. It's exactly that. 00:16:14 Speaker 2: The last and the time before that, I signed a thing to make California break into like five states and the person just didn't give me any information, and I had until I had signed it. Then they revealed this. I was like, oh, I don't want my name on this, but you're outside a grocery store and you're put enough pressure, I will go for it. 00:16:30 Speaker 3: They always put it. We're like, do you want to help fight for nurses rights. And you're like, of course you sign it, and they're like, it's only for like white nurses, and it's what have I done? Have I done? 00:16:42 Speaker 2: I should have read the ten pages on my way to dinner. Yeah, so I have been tricked twice. Maybe it won't be tricked a third time. I think that the cut of the jacket, yes, thank god, we're back to the. 00:16:53 Speaker 3: Jack can change with the times, okay, But I think that the the color and the logo are consistent. That does okay? And the color green, Yeah, it's a green green. It's like I think they probably have a patent on that green. They don't. 00:17:04 Speaker 2: Never is it kind of a forest green or what are we talking about? 00:17:08 Speaker 3: No, it's it's somewhere in between. It's it's in between forest in line. It's like it's actually like a nice cause. 00:17:13 Speaker 2: I will say, okay, the neighbors are absolutely going at it on a leash. 00:17:18 Speaker 3: Is this okay? 00:17:19 Speaker 2: I mean we can just talk about it. Let's just be we're real We're gonna be realistic here. 00:17:23 Speaker 3: We think people are going to do? You you let me ask you this. Do you think people are going to turn the episode off? 00:17:30 Speaker 2: Because that if they do, I mean, go spend your time to somewhere else. If you can't live with me in my backyard and my neighbors renovating their home, then I don't need you. I feel like that's hubris. Okay, so we're inside. We're inside, We've entered the house. The neighbors have one. 00:17:51 Speaker 3: I buckled. 00:17:53 Speaker 2: Just let the record show that. Apparently the audio matters when you've got a podcast. You can't just let your neighbors fully renovate for the full hour. But we gave them a platform. We did, and you don't wear their tools from If you can't see it, you can't be it. 00:18:11 Speaker 3: When it comes to like using a planer, a planer or a router or whatever, right, I want to give us credit for folding like a house of fucking cards out there. We were so I mean like we acted with authority to be like we're giving up. 00:18:30 Speaker 2: We had to give up. I really tried to power through you did. I tried to just act like the house wasn't on fire. When you know this is if the house was on fire, we would have both burned to death. 00:18:42 Speaker 3: If I were in charge one hundred percent, I was given the smallest opening, and I kicked through it like it was a Michael Man movie. 00:18:50 Speaker 2: And I think, hopefully ultimately for the best. 00:18:52 Speaker 3: I think ultimately for the best. That would have been bad. 00:18:55 Speaker 2: But we're now in a kind of a cramped office space with an unopened box of dog food. 00:19:01 Speaker 3: What kind of dog food do you use? We're using a. 00:19:04 Speaker 2: Natural balanced lamb and rice. I believe the dog's allergic to chicken. 00:19:08 Speaker 3: Oh do you have a dog? 00:19:09 Speaker 2: I do? 00:19:10 Speaker 3: What are you feeding your dog? We had to switch up to some from like a kibble to a wet food because of some urinary track stuff happens every time, it happens so often, right, this is the first time that's happened to me. But the VAT seem to think it was not a very big deal. It's just kind of like, oh, you know, some urinary track stuff and we switched it up. But now we're like, we got all this extra kibble, so we're just kind of mix it in and oh, that's not a bad idea. Dave is a fucking particular the dog. The dog's name is Dave, And what kind of dog is he? He is a mini Labriel? Oh, very cute. He also I never had a dieted dog growing up and this. So when we were going to get a dog, it was like, okay, well we're going to wait for the kids to ask us to get a dog, as I've never had a dog as an adult, and I was like, oh, yeah, dog would be a good idea because teaches kids about death. So that shows you where I was at. I was like, oh, well, and there needs to be like a lesson, it's not just about it. And then we get this dog. Have fun. You know, you can't just have fun. This is the best thing I've ever done. The dog is the fucking best. 00:20:15 Speaker 2: How long have you had him for? He's two and a half years, oh so, fairly young and already having the urinary issues. 00:20:22 Speaker 3: Well I think it was just temporary. Dave really just fucking decides to throw shit at us. He just like starts something then moves on. He's a little tromperamental and right. But now I am at the point where I'm like, this dog has to outlive me. I can't. I honestly can't imagine. 00:20:39 Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's the worst. 00:20:41 Speaker 3: It's the worst. 00:20:43 Speaker 2: When that conversation comes up around my boyfriend, he will get like very emotional it's a hard thing to think about it. Yeah, but it's inevitable. 00:20:52 Speaker 3: It is. Maybe I was trying to teach myself about death. 00:20:56 Speaker 2: You hadn't accepted it. 00:20:58 Speaker 3: I hadn't accepted it any time. When my kid was like four, we were like, we're going to wait until the kids asked to get a dog before we get one. And then the kid asked to get a dog, and we pretended we didn't hear them. You just fully ignored, fully for how long? Two years? 00:21:17 Speaker 2: For a while, for a while, and then how did you eventually buckle? I mean, what was the thing that made you think let's. 00:21:26 Speaker 3: Do it well? There was sort of like a long, like a very long story. But just like some therapeutic reasons, there was a child therapy therapeutic reasons that we ultimately did. 00:21:40 Speaker 2: Right based on the parents not listening to the child for two years. 00:21:44 Speaker 3: I wonder you're trying to draw a line between two things that are certain, that are clearly clearly. 00:21:52 Speaker 2: I'm a child psychologist, and I see exactly what happened. 00:21:57 Speaker 3: I see what you're doing. You brought me on here to prove that I'm as bad a parent as I think I am. America's worst parent. That's the name of this podcast. 00:22:07 Speaker 2: Yes, it's kind of an undercover boss situation. I bring on parents, We have a nice chat for a few minutes, and I just I put the pieces together that expose them as America's new worst parent. So for the next week until my next guest, you kind of wear the crown. 00:22:24 Speaker 3: Okay, what does that look like for me? As far as I. 00:22:26 Speaker 2: Mean, various government services will be looking checking into your home. You'll obviously be shamed online. Okay, yeah, you will not be the cover girl at the pediatrician's office. So I'll just say that, no brochures, nothing. 00:22:39 Speaker 3: Like that, unless it's like a like a print, like a photocopied piece of paper that's like do not let this man in here. But they put it with the magazines and that'll. 00:22:48 Speaker 2: Be distributed all over the nation that little warning. But only a week and then you get the chance to recover. 00:22:54 Speaker 3: You've flipping through a lot of magazines these days. 00:22:58 Speaker 2: I actually will occasionally subscribe to like they'll have a like a whatever magazine will be like get half a year from ninety nine cents. I'm like, of course I'm gonna do that. Did you get a piece of mail? That I can flip through and and throw away. 00:23:11 Speaker 3: Why not? 00:23:12 Speaker 2: Although I will say I subscribed to Martha Stewart Living with one of these deals and then recently found out that the magazine shut down. I got a piece of a piece of mail that said, Martha Stewart no longer is a magazine. You're not gonna get food and wine or something. It was like, I was there for Martha, and now, yeah, that's the draw. Why was this not a headline news? That's what I'm asking. 00:23:36 Speaker 3: I mean like that seems to like that seems to sort of shape the foundations of my belief in her business acumen, you know what I mean, Like you can't just be closing up shops. 00:23:46 Speaker 2: And letting your readers know that way. Yeah, she should have reached out. 00:23:50 Speaker 3: Were you able to talk to them about some sort of pro rated ninety nine cent thing or were you like, look, I've signed up for Martha, so this is like an eighty eight cent product or anything. 00:24:00 Speaker 2: I should get like eleven cents back? 00:24:02 Speaker 3: You should? 00:24:02 Speaker 2: I absolutely should. Maybe I'll get into that with them and try to get my money back, because I do feel cheated. I feel like I've been robbed in the night and Martha is largely to blame. She's busy opening a restaurant in Las Vegas. That's her new thing. 00:24:16 Speaker 3: She's opening a restaurant in Vegas. 00:24:18 Speaker 2: That's as far as her Instagram is telling me. She's got a new place in Vegas. 00:24:23 Speaker 3: Do you follow Martha Stewart? Could? 00:24:26 Speaker 2: I mean, anyone that's on Instagram who isn't following Martha Stewart is robbing themselves her account is. I mean, she's doing some really amazing things there. 00:24:36 Speaker 3: Have you been to Vegas recently? I haven't. 00:24:38 Speaker 2: Do you like Vegas? 00:24:39 Speaker 1: No? 00:24:40 Speaker 3: I think I realized that I don't. I think it sucks. 00:24:44 Speaker 2: It's not I mean, I guess it's for a lot of people. It's for a lot of people, but for someone of the things I'm interested in and the things that make me comfortable, nothing like that is in Las Vegas. 00:24:57 Speaker 3: It seems like it's gonna be relaxing. Went their receip It's well, I think so Like my wife, I had been out of town for work and we wanted to do like a desert kind of relaxing, kid friendly pool thing. Oh sure, And she was like, I don't know. I like found a good deal for like a place that's comfortable in Vegas. Just fuck it. Let's just drive out there with the kids. It's got like a kid friendly wavepool. And it just sucks. It sucks, it sucks, it sucks. It's so sad and so sad. 00:25:28 Speaker 2: Leak things there and there are just a lot of people who's are hanging by a thread. 00:25:34 Speaker 3: They are, and like, God bless them. I'm glad that they have. I'm glad that somebody has found their happiness. 00:25:41 Speaker 2: I don't want to Vegas shame anyway. I don't want a Vegas just people do love to be there. And I will say there is some good food there. 00:25:47 Speaker 3: There is, but no, there's definitely some good food. But I think just I really am somebody that like, after like that eight and a half hour mark, I'm like, yeah, I'm good. 00:25:55 Speaker 2: It's such a concentrated burst of what it is. Yeah, after that per it's poisonous gravy. Yes, And the idea of like people will go on like a week long vacation to Las Vegas. I'm like, something very wrong, something something went wrong. What are you getting out of a week in Las Vegas. 00:26:13 Speaker 3: I don't want to tell people this, but I feel like if you are not looking for Vegas. I love Palm Springs big, but I feel like all of the things if you want anything that resembles Vegas, but you don't want to go there, I feel like Palm Springs has some shit to offer you. Good food. If you want to gamble, there's that one casino. 00:26:31 Speaker 2: There's a single casino, like right, yes, you can stop at the Marongo on the way there. 00:26:36 Speaker 3: On the way there, I feel like I stayed at the Marongo. You. 00:26:40 Speaker 2: I feel like somebody had a wedding and I had to stay at the Marongo. The Marongo, I mean it's a nicon. I mean it's an iconic place and it's just there and it's the Marongo, And if you want to gamble or get a salad bar, that's the stop in the desert. 00:26:56 Speaker 3: I don't want to tell you how to run your podcast, but it feels like if you're not proactively going after Nintendo and Marongo, because you actually did just then a really beautiful ad read for Marongo. 00:27:12 Speaker 2: Marongo reach Out. I mean, we've got to get Maroano on board. I would love for this to become entirely funded by video games and gambling. I mean we'll see what happens. We'll see what happens. We you're getting there, Tim, We have danced around something, a real elephant in the backyard and in this current room for too long. You obviously brought a gift to my podcast. 00:27:35 Speaker 3: I said, no gifts. I did. 00:27:37 Speaker 2: It's in a beautiful brown bag, so unbelievably tasteful, this ber thank you. I'm furious should I open it here on the show. 00:27:45 Speaker 3: I think you should open it on this show because when people say like, oh, you know, like my present is your presence? Sure, you know what I mean. When people say that, baloney, you still gotta bring them a little something, you know what I mean? You bring him something, You bring them. 00:28:00 Speaker 2: Right, If my presence is the present, you've got to have a real nice view of yourself if you really think that just showing up is enough. 00:28:09 Speaker 3: Oh no, that's what the person said. Sorry, your presence. You're saying like I don't want anything but you there, which I do think is a nice It's a nice. 00:28:38 Speaker 2: Let's get into this bag here. 00:28:40 Speaker 3: I'm gonna open it up now. 00:28:43 Speaker 2: This is a sound effect that we can put on the mic that people are happy to hear. Tissue crinkling or reaching in. I'm pulling, okay, I've pulled out. Oh, I'm honestly thrilled to see this. This is an item. I would never buy it for myself because I would never think about it. It's a garlic press, and slicer' are having an honest response. I honestly yeah, because there are these little things that I'm not a big cooker, and so I don't buy a lot of because I rarely cook. But then the times that I do, I'm suddenly like peeling the garlic or pressing it with a fork and ruining my evening. 00:29:18 Speaker 3: Yeah, but tell me why you brought this. I saw it was over at somebody's house, and I do like a fair I don't enjoy my My wife cooks a lot. That's like the thing that she likes to do. I'm not a big into it, and I'm not a big fan of a garlic press. Okay, garlic press is maybe a lot of work for not a lot of reward and a lot of cleanup. The cleanup crazy, it's crazy in a garlic almost impossible, almost impossible, and it saves you almost no time at all. But I was over at somebody's house, and I saw them using the slice her part, and that's when I was like, okay, so the oh okay. 00:29:55 Speaker 2: So to describe it to the listener, it looks almost like a little phone. Let's be honest. It looks like a wireless phone. It looks like a little wire wordless But it has the natural that we're all familiar with the press, which is the little holes that you use once and then for the rest of your life are scraping or you are scraping garlic out of. But below it, where kind of you would talk on the phone, is the slicer. And is it easier to use the slicer? Is it easier to clean the slice? 00:30:21 Speaker 3: I don't know, because this is the thing. I bought you this because I thought you'd appreciate it. 00:30:26 Speaker 2: And I do. I have to be very honest here, I'm looking you in the eye. I am thrilled about this. 00:30:31 Speaker 3: Okay, great. I have never used one, Okay, I just very recently saw somebody using one and thought with this all dovetail in a very nice way in that when I was asked to come on your show, please no gifts, I said, I said, no gifts. How dare you? How Daari. You here's the thing. Your presence. Your presence is my present. So when I was asked to come on the podcast, this actually came right around the same time that I went to dinner at this person's house, and I was like, Oh, that's the thing that I like doing. When it comes to gift giving, I like to I think a gift should make that person's life better, right in that way of like, what do you. 00:31:22 Speaker 2: Get for a guy who has everything exactly and get him a little something that you get him a little something that is immensely useful that will save them time and allow for like the like somebody put it to me in a good way, like about a month ago when he for Christmas got me one of those Ember mugs, which is like a coffee mug that is charged and it keeps your. 00:31:50 Speaker 3: Coffee or teath I've never heard of. It's like a little oven. It's like a little oven for coffee and it just keeps at the exact same temperature and you set the temperature and it just stays there. And there are gonna be no big jumps forward in my life from now on, like I have experienced. I think all of the like the big headers right of experience. So there's no I'm not gonna be like, I'm not gonna I'm never gonna have twenty percent more fun or I'm never gonna be twenty percent halfier, but like something is gonna come along that makes my life like a half a percent better and like that Ember thing was a great, Like, oh, my life is a half a percent better because of this, And that's so that's enormous. 00:32:36 Speaker 2: That's I mean an adult life. 00:32:39 Speaker 3: In adult life, that is enormous. And so I feel like, even though I haven't used this, I feel like this is going to occupy that kind of space where like it's not that this gift is is what is helpful to you, it's the time that you aren't spending slicing garlic and what do you do with that time? That's what I am. 00:33:00 Speaker 2: And also when you're slicing garlic on your own, free form free rain, yeah, yeah, you slice a finger off that, I mean an entire an entire lose, an entire limb. You know, don't tell me how to slice my garlic too. 00:33:16 Speaker 3: It's so funny that you would say that you don't cook a lot when I mean, I guess it makes sense when the steaks are that high. 00:33:26 Speaker 2: But yeah, you're saving me from hospital trips, doctor trips, and then most of the time just a little bit of time. 00:33:32 Speaker 3: Well, I guess in my head I was thinking more just like some extra time with your dog or your white friend or the ones you love, you know what I mean, Like, I guess, not the doctor, but. 00:33:41 Speaker 2: Worst case scenario. You've saved me from the worst case scenario. And these nice little moments when it's just cutting off a little bit of the time of my cooking. And I think this really is the best type of gift. I mean, another thing I got on this podcast was a car garbage can. 00:33:58 Speaker 3: Have you had one of these? No, but I have had a whole bunch of shopping bags or you know what I mean, like grocery bags in the front seat. God, this is the way to do it. 00:34:10 Speaker 2: And now you've got to get the you buy the one that hangs off the back of the head rest. It's it's again, one of these things. It's just changed my life enough that I can't believe I was living any other way and now it's like a new me. 00:34:24 Speaker 3: Can I ask you a question, of course, what do you say when a new person gets into the car and sees the car trash can. Because this is I'm not going to say this isn't an amazing gift. I'm just wondering if that's going to be a sticking point for some people. 00:34:41 Speaker 2: It depends on where they're located in the car. So if we've got a passenger in the front passenger seat, they don't even bother telling them, you don't. 00:34:50 Speaker 3: I saw it when they were like walking by the car to get into the passenger But they can do it. 00:34:55 Speaker 2: They can make whatever assumptions they want because they get front, they get shot gun. They have the power to make their decisions with what I'm doing with my life now, if there's somebody in the back right seat who now has a face full of garbage, a lot of apologizing, a lot of lying about how I empty it more often than I do, because this thing is it's probably once every eighteen months that I'm happening this garbage so back left person. It depends on my mood. I might mention it, I might not. I will say, regardless of the person, I'm selling this to them, I'm selling them on the idea of the garbage. I'm telling them that despite the fact that it's created kind of a social situation. In that moment when I'm alone, I'm writing, free and careless and loving life of my garbage in its own little container. 00:35:46 Speaker 3: What do you feel like? 00:35:47 Speaker 2: Is the. 00:35:49 Speaker 3: Like the I guess the liquid volume of the liquid volume? I mean, I guess liquid volume. How do we measure trash? Back right, we're talking about Oh are we talking court size? Is that how we measure trash? 00:36:01 Speaker 2: Clue announces how many I would say that this would probably take a half gallon. If I were to take a half gallon of milk and just dump it in there, which I've been known to do, Uh, it would probably just slosh around in the back of the car. 00:36:16 Speaker 3: Does that have a top? No top? So it's kind of it is spilling out a little bit. It's spilled. 00:36:22 Speaker 2: There are receipts all over the furcase. And now that we're talking about it, I'm really thinking it's been too long since I last emptied it. But it's all dry trash. I'm not putting in, you know, like a soda cup. I'm not putting in a banana peel. Nothing that could decompose this is It's the way it's really saved me is like if I go through a drive through or I like at Target, they forced the receipt on me when I didn't need the receipt. It's going in there. So it's essentially all receipts. So I don't know how much private information. 00:36:50 Speaker 3: Is on a receipt. 00:36:51 Speaker 2: You're allowed to put any Okay, then I'm safe. If I think you're safe. No, no car thief would be able to dial in anything. I mean I do put ATM receipts in there on occasion. 00:37:02 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't think. I think. I think it really is at the point where I think at some point they were getting sued because there was a time after it was like you your credit card number would be on the receipt, not just like the xxx and then the last four my god, just like you're like your broad dog credit card number just right there, and somebody like caught win that like pets like whatever pet Co or I don't know, Please pet COO, don't sue, Please not gifts. What was the name of this again, Please don't sue this podcast gifts? No, thank you? Yeah, that's it. Yes, So I think Petco was leaving the credit card numbers on there after the law was passed, somebody like what sued them and like got a bunch of money they should have. 00:37:51 Speaker 2: I mean, no, you don't need to be a security expert and know that's a terrible like that's crazy, what are we even talking about? And also it would probably save them money and ink not putting the full number on there? 00:38:02 Speaker 3: What was the the X is there ending on the number? Like if the number is a a one, then the X is definitely more ink. 00:38:16 Speaker 2: Well, you're kind of a printer expert, kind of an ink master kind. 00:38:21 Speaker 3: Of yeah, I mean I guess you know. I mean, if you're trying to be cool, I mean, I suppose you'd call me an ink master. Wait is that the name of that reality show? 00:38:30 Speaker 2: And I believe that show was about people like getting into printers and I never saw it, but you're right. Yeah, it was kind of like they'd look at your epsom's, your HPS, your. 00:38:40 Speaker 3: HPS and they'd be like hey, You'd be like, hey, do I need like this app for my phone? They're like, look, you're never going to use that. They would be like the real inside. 00:38:49 Speaker 2: Ship the drama of that reality show. Have you ever tried to use like a non off brand in nightmare, nightmare. It's such a lesson learned, but it's you're like, oh, it's half the price, and ink is such a waste of money. Of course I'll go with X brand and then it blows up in your printer or smears all over the place. 00:39:09 Speaker 3: Have you reached a point in your life where you're either not printing enough or where you just like, fucking I want to buy the name brand. 00:39:16 Speaker 2: I have to buy the name brandk I mean, I've learned the lesson multiple times. Well, I guess that doesn't I guess I didn't learn the lesson the first few times. After a while it was like, okay, you just have to buy the name brand. You've got you over the barrel and there's so little printing done anymore. Yeah, you buy one and it's a year's worth of ink. 00:39:34 Speaker 3: It really is. 00:39:36 Speaker 2: But the price is what could possibly justify the cost of ink? I don't understand. 00:39:41 Speaker 3: I think somebody broke it down and when it comes to like a per buy a per ounce again. This is how this is how trash bags are measured too. So I don't want to confuse the audience of measurements or liquid volumes or whatever. But I think per ounce printer ink retails or more than gold. Oh I believe that. Yeah, Like like like we're just talking like raw weight versus price. It's more expensive than gold. 00:40:09 Speaker 2: Why aren't people rioting? 00:40:12 Speaker 3: I mean we should take to the streets. That's ridiculous. I have a friend who has an ex boyfriend. She was somebody this is the well Okay, okay, I'm not going to say it's a friend because it's more like a friend of a friend. Okay, okay. It was a lie that I like happened to know a lot about. And she was like one of those people that was like it was like a was very young, but like a very high powered lawyer and like dated princes. Oh. But then eventually started dating this unemployed guy and he was watching that show Shark Tank, of course, and there was like a printer in company that those people didn't they were like no, right, So he was like, I'm going to invest in that what he watched the show and when they all said no to it, he said, yes, he got in on it, got in on it, and did he make money? I don't. 00:41:02 Speaker 2: Oh, I thought you were gonna be like and now he's a Printon. Now he has no no no no, no no no no. 00:41:09 Speaker 3: I believe they broke up, and I doubt he's dead. He's he's dead. 00:41:15 Speaker 2: Anyone who watches Shark Tank and watches all of these expert investors pass on a product and then it's like time to put my life savings towards that. That's a dangerous lifestyle. 00:41:25 Speaker 3: Have you ever been on a reality show? I haven't. 00:41:29 Speaker 2: I feel like there was a period that like that could have happened or something like just by accident. But have you no, no, no no, would you no? 00:41:36 Speaker 3: I don't think so. 00:41:37 Speaker 2: Even like an Amazing Race type situation, there's. 00:41:42 Speaker 3: A long pause, there's a long thoughtful I think ultimately, no, right, because I think there is that because like the Amazing Race is pretty like when it comes to reality shows, the ones that I do watch, I do think are more like skill or talent or adventure based like whatever project Runways and called drag race things where it is like, okay, these are about about celebrating people rather than just displaying wild wild people. Yes, I don't know. Even if I didn't do what I do for a job, I don't think that I'm the person that wants to be performative in that way, right, do you know what I mean? I don't ultimately think that I would be. I like wish I could be that person if I didn't do what I did, But I don't think ultimately I think I would be too uncomfortable like putting on that kind of show, you know what I mean. Yeah, I feel like I could. 00:42:37 Speaker 2: If somebody was like, we're going to finance your race around the world, no cameras, I'd be on board with us. 00:42:43 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, But. 00:42:44 Speaker 2: The moment that I'm like, oh, I'm going to be on CBS yelling at my partner, I don't know that I could get into it exactly. Did you ever watch that show alone? No, I've heard amazing things about this. 00:42:56 Speaker 3: My little brother is kind of he's when you say survivest it sounds bad, but he's just like a guy. He like want He wanted to like learn how to live in the woods, right, and he did. He has like a family now, like he and his wife. They own a little cabin. They're about to get plumbing. It's a great Oh congrats, yea, everyone involved. He wanted to learn how to live in the woods. If for some reason something went terribly wrong and the plane crash, like we all had to rehatchet. 00:43:21 Speaker 2: When a kid, of course, hatch it comes to mind immediately so he can do all that stuff. 00:43:27 Speaker 3: How does he learn he went to like camps when he was in high school? Wow, that's amazing. There's a guy named Tom Jones and not not the Welsh Tom, not the Welsh Jones. 00:43:38 Speaker 2: Isn't that shocking that when I found out Tom Jones was Welsh and my whole world talking about things shifting your reality? Yeah, I always thought he was like a sexy American guy. 00:43:48 Speaker 3: He's Welsh, he's well, I mean well sexy Welshman. 00:43:51 Speaker 2: Yeah, sexy Welshman. 00:43:53 Speaker 3: So Tom Jones, uh like a you know, a wilderness survival guy in New Jersey, runs camps, right, adults and kids and my little brother. He's into that kind of stuff. So my wife and I started watching it during the pandemic Great Pandemic show, and I remember even as I was like, oh, this might be the one that I would be like, I'd really like to see if I could survive in this way. But then I'm like, oh, you gotta like set up the cameras, and that's that stresses me out. Right, you are fucking alone, like you're the one that has to carry the camera, and I'm just like after like three or four days and be like this shit's hard enough. 00:44:31 Speaker 2: I'm not Also the panic of like is the camera working? Yeah, they like they run them through like a whole tech training oh thing and tech school or something. 00:44:41 Speaker 3: Yeah. I couldn't do that. 00:44:42 Speaker 2: I had to on Elise recently was doing Remotely Engineered the podcast while we recorded in the backyard and I had to set up the audio equipment myself and I had a heart attack. So the idea of being out in the middle of the forest setting up cameras that would be recording me desperate. Yes, that would be a hard, hard thing. 00:45:02 Speaker 3: I think I should watch this show because it's pretty amazing what what the people on this show can do. Has anyone died on it, No, but they're they do wellness checks and the conceit of the show. I don't know if you know this is that you don't know how you don't. There are ten people they get they get put in similar circumstances, but like miles and miles away from one another, right, so you have no idea how many people are left. It's just you stay out here until the day where we show up and tell you one. So there is like a psychological mind fuck to it. But they do wellness checks every two weeks, and there have been people who have been had like had to be pulled because they're like, I haven't had protein in seven days, my water source has begun to dry up, and or like there's in this one case, this one dude was like he was so fucked up from being hungry. He made like this little two story like food story thing because you managed to like kill a moose. And then he had built a ladder up to the second story, but he left the ladder up and the raccoon got up there and like ate all the protein. And so even though he had like a moose he had like moose meat, he was starving to death even though he had food because he wasn't getting enough of the. 00:46:18 Speaker 2: Other true because this raccoon had a Thanksgiving. 00:46:20 Speaker 3: This raccoon went fucking nuts. Or maybe it was a wolverine. I mean that wolverine's a star. That's an absolute star or raccoon. We don't want to take credit away from her. Can I go back and ask you a question? Of course, and if there are other people in the room that want to weigh in on this, that maybe spend a lot of time with you, honly how I would say skill of one to ten? How honest were you being about liking the gift that I got you? I was you really want to know? I do? 00:46:46 Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna give a real honest I'm say an eight really yes and eight. It's on at least what were you thinking? Accurate, accurate, sellent truth. I'm telling you the truth because this is something it's not too big, so it's not like in a clutter. It's something I put away in my insane drawer of kitchen gadgets that get used on occasion. Now it'll go in there and then when the time comes. 00:47:12 Speaker 3: I'm set. 00:47:13 Speaker 2: I'm absolutely set, and I don't have to think about it. 00:47:15 Speaker 3: This makes me so happy. This makes me so happy, because there is I think there's like a oh gosh, I can't remember what the there's like a Reddit thing. I don't want to talk about. Reddit brought it up, fucking worst. Why did I There is like that thing of like there is like a reddit something of like you had one job, which is like people failing to do, which sure is funny. But there is one I can't remember what it's called where it is like you have one job or something like that. It is a collection of tools that have one purpose, oh use and it is the singular most satisfying thing I have ever seen. 00:47:58 Speaker 2: Wait, so it's like showing you differ tools that can do one thing really well, Yes, it is that, but it is also so like, let's say you have a door that every like, every time you open it, it bumps your It bumps your dresser. Oh sure, I live with it forever, just let it ruin my life. 00:48:19 Speaker 3: Yes. It also is a way of showcasing people who have decided to take the step. Oh I need this the thing so that when you open the door, they've like notched it out perfectly so that it just like it's right through. So satisfying. It is unbelievable, and I recommend everybody. 00:48:38 Speaker 2: Okay, I've got to look this up. Well, yeah, I've got this tool now, and like you did an amazing job. 00:48:45 Speaker 3: Can I ask you a question? Yeah, of course? Do other people? Well, can I ask you two questions? You are allowed two questions. Do other people that have been guests have they do they ask this main question. 00:48:57 Speaker 2: Some guests are very question based. Some people, and I think this just speaks to a lot of people. Some people don't know conversationally, don't care about the other person in the room. 00:49:06 Speaker 3: Oh okay, that had that experience. 00:49:09 Speaker 2: Not that often, but run into somebody on occasion that has no interest in asking questions. 00:49:14 Speaker 3: Has anybody ever not brought a gift because it seems rude, even though we are explicitly asked not to. 00:49:20 Speaker 2: I've basically gotten a gift from everybody, Okay, some some sort of item. I mean it's ranged from like pieces of garbage to useful things to really just like thoughtful things. 00:49:32 Speaker 3: Something's brought you a piece of garbage, a. 00:49:34 Speaker 2: Literal chewed up dog toy. I mean we can name it, name her Jamie Lee. She gave it to me, and it was wonderful to get it. But that's the one item I've completely just thrown away, okay, whereas like this is, this is not staying in my house. This simply I'm not. I can't have a chewed up chicken hanging around, okay, but otherwise it I would say useful items one in ten, one in ten, and then maybe eight items which are just like can become purely decorative or are just the thing that I have to figure out how. 00:50:05 Speaker 3: To live with. How many of these have you given away? And what do you think the average amount of time is before you give it away. 00:50:12 Speaker 2: I have yet to give anything away. 00:50:14 Speaker 3: How many of these have you done? Hundreds? What are you you? 00:50:18 Speaker 2: I don't I don't know what to tell you. I don't know what to tell anyone at this point. It's very it's a threat. 00:50:24 Speaker 3: To my life. 00:50:24 Speaker 2: One hundred and thirty, one hundred and thirty. 00:50:26 Speaker 4: You have one hundred and thirty. You have this beautiful, like minimalist hold that you live in. I don't know what's happening to them. I mean, sometimes people will give me food so that will be eaten, but that that's not that often. They're kind of just piling up. 00:50:41 Speaker 3: I don't know what to do. 00:50:42 Speaker 2: It does feel a little bit of a monkey paw situation where it's at some point I'm going to have to have like a charity yard sale or something because I simply can't sustain having this many gifts brought to me. 00:50:56 Speaker 3: Would you really donate into charity? 00:50:58 Speaker 2: Absolutely? 00:51:01 Speaker 3: Okay? 00:51:01 Speaker 2: I mean I mean the threat of being discovered alone. That would be a great scandal though, just taking pocketing money of under the guise of charity. I mean, if I if I ever want to just burn it all down, That's what I'll do. I'll have this charity yard sale and then I'll buy a flashy car with the money. 00:51:22 Speaker 3: I was talking to a guy because I coached some some like rec league. I coached like rec league sports teams. Oh what kind of sports? I did baseball in the spring, okay, flag football before that. Oh my god, I've coached basketball before coming up. I'm gonna be doing softball next spring. Okay. But I remember talking to a guy who was also a coach in the rec league thing. He I think he's in the you know, whenever we work in like a steel mill town. He also works at the factory talking about factory, yes, yes. And I was talking about this plan that I had for like how to different and this is going to get it. I don't think this is I'm not trying to say that, this is like an idea that only I've had. Wow, what a genius, funny idea, you know what I mean, Like how to defraud Trump supporters? And and I was saying like it were like, Okay, how do we word this in such a way where it's like, if you're a true maga American whatever, just you know, fight, you know, stop the steal x y Z. Here's this go fundmelink, right, But like, at no point do I ever say it is essentially what he is already do. 00:52:28 Speaker 2: Right, I was going to say, just run for president, just MP. But and so we were kind of talking about this, and I'm not I'm not trying to bring up Donald Trump. Where the fucking I don't want to talk about him. But what I think what happened was is that I was having a conversation with this guy and by the end of the conversation he said like, yeah, but in order to do that, we'd need like walk away money, And I. 00:52:49 Speaker 3: Was like, whoa. He was on fuck. He was on board so much that he was thinking about like we not like if your walk away numbers like ten million, to just be like, yeah, I set my reputation on fire and I'm going to live in a different country for the rest of my life if that was like my walkway number. He was like, how are we going to get to twenty? Or like what is mine you know what I mean, because I'm not gonna split it with it. Of course, not not in this situation. This dude was so on board, and I loved like, we didn't discuss it. He was just like, Yeah, what are we gonna That's incredible? Isn't that great? 00:53:24 Speaker 2: You should go on Shark Tank. 00:53:26 Speaker 3: You're obviously a natural picture, natural natural people on board. 00:53:30 Speaker 2: I remealok for someone to go on Shark Tank and they're pitching how to differ odd Trump supporters sharks today. 00:53:37 Speaker 3: And they're like, I want one hundred percent of that. We will make so much money. I didn't mean to do that, to do what bring up? 00:53:46 Speaker 2: You know, it was a fun way to bring it up. Everybody's talked about it so much. But look, I mean for four years that's it was unavoidable. It was, but now it's avoidable. Why aren't we avoiding it? Why did you see what I did that you dragged? Aren't we avoiding it? 00:54:03 Speaker 3: I said, I'm sorry, Tim, I think it's time to play a game. I would love to. 00:54:08 Speaker 2: We're gonna play a game called. 00:54:09 Speaker 3: Gift I say something. Of course, this has been so fun. 00:54:12 Speaker 2: I'm having a great time despite the pressure of the neighbors and the panic. 00:54:17 Speaker 3: And I was late and you, oh, give me a break. 00:54:20 Speaker 2: I thought it's been later before without apology, and you're sitting on my workout bench. I feel like, what an uncomfortable Okay, I hope so. I feel like as a tall guy, i'd be more uncomfortable. Interesting, but I kind of like this. Okay, yeah, the moment you're uncomfortable, I want to know. But uh, okay, this is We're gonna play a game called Gift for a Curse. I need a number between one and ten from you. Uh four, Okay, I have to do some just the lightest of calculating. While I'm doing this. You can recommend something, promote something to whatever you want. 00:54:51 Speaker 3: I'll be right. Oh great. Oh So I found myself as much as I love television, there's just too much of it, and I found myself missing like a contained story. So I've been like kind of nightly. I'm the one that stays up the latest in my family. So after everybody goes to bed, I stay up and I watch Pardon me, I just burped. You can leave that inter cut that out. That's a fucking crazy world. So I've been staying up and like watching like either movies that I really love and that I need to see again or movies that I've never seen. And it's been a really amazing experience to go back and see a lot of things that I should have seen. And recently that has been a lot of uh like sort of la noir crime stories, both modern and old, so like The Big Heat, UD and Double Indemnity, and I just watched Wrath of Man I think is like a modern La noir that's fucking amazing. But like The Big Heat, which was like I think, like one of the pre eminent noirs. It was like like I think before they discovered like the lighting, uh the like the dark sort of you know, slat lighting thing. It's kind of very brightly lit. That movie goes so fucking hard. It goes so oh fucking hard. I have no idea how they got away with what they did in that story. Nothing good happens to anybody. And also all that jazz the Bob Fossey, Oh, I guess like biopic but he changes all the names where he's basically like, I'm the worst person alive. I just happened to be a good choreographer, and everybody fucking hates me and I'm a piece of shit. Like the movie that he wrote about himself, it fucking bangs so hard, it's so good, and I had never seen it. I've neither. 00:56:32 Speaker 2: I haven't seen Wrath of Man or uh what did all that jazz? 00:56:36 Speaker 3: You haven't? No, they obviously all that jazz is not nor but but like watch Wrath of Man, Guy Ritchie, but it doesn't feel like a Guy Richie movie. It's like it is in fact, like very deliberately paced in an amazing way, and all that jazz feels it's gonna be like, oh, whatever this is gonna be, it is amazing. 00:56:57 Speaker 2: Okay, those are great recommendation. I hope that some of did you do your calculation, I've got my calculating. 00:57:02 Speaker 3: We're ready to go. 00:57:02 Speaker 2: Okay, this is how this game works. Okay, I'm gonna name three things. You're gonna tell me if there're a gift or a curse and why? Okay, and then I'll tell you if you're correct or wrong. There are right and wrong answers here, so you can I mean, you could absolutely fail. Can I ask a question? 00:57:15 Speaker 3: Of course, who's like the barometer of whether it's right or wrong is it you, uh, the. 00:57:20 Speaker 2: Sense of justice in the universe. Okay, it's kind of the ultimate decide or hair. Okay, so just be prepared. But you are the conduit. I'm I'm a conduit of many spirits. Ok let's be honest. Okay, Okay, So number one this is uh these are all listeners suggestions. This first one is from Shane, and Shane has suggested gift or a curse mister Peanut. 00:57:43 Speaker 3: Gift, I mean one hundred percent mister Peanut. Like the logo for plants, right, Harry Peanut. He's in a fucking top hat and spats, He's fucking dancing around. I mean, like, I'm sorry, but if you are even considering the idea that mister Peanut is a curse, that is so that is so so fucked up, and I can I and like, I will call this out. I have a friend who was in the Planter's Super Bowl commercial where mister Peanut died and then he was like reborn as a baby Peanut, And I ultimately don't think that it worked, you know what I mean, like as the bandoned Wesley Snipes was in it too. I don't remember Wesley snipesping And yeah, but so I'm not trying to be like I'm not even if my friend was not somehow involved with that company. Fuck you. If you're like mister Peanut, that's a curse. Who wants to live that? In word, this is a great thing. 00:58:38 Speaker 2: Tim Fuck me, it's a curse. No, I think shit, look not true. Listen, listen. I mister Peanut as a presence. I loved, I trusted, I adored up until the super Bowl commercial. Then I saw mister Peanut for what it really was. What is it attention starved and to do whatever it took to get the spotlight the whole death thing. I had to leave. I had to say, I'm sorry, mister Peanut. There are other mascots that I can deal with. 00:59:10 Speaker 3: I look, your individual criticisms of that one campaign are certainly warranted and welcome. 00:59:19 Speaker 2: Mister Peanut was on board. 00:59:20 Speaker 3: But mister Peanut, he's been around for like one hundred years. You gotta mix shit up. Like, I'm not a big comic book guy, but like you know, there are like a million different Spider Man things that I'm sure not every Spider Man, you know, even Spider Man fans will be like, well, there was this one period of time in like the nineteen eighties where a storyline kind of like you know, Mary Jane wasn't Cannon or whatever the fuck, but like we just deal with that because the larger thing is important to have. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I was on board with mister Peanut until that big stunt and then you know, if you want to experiment, maybe make him even classier, that would have been how I would have targeted that can pain mister Peanut. There's a big change for mister Peanut. He has even more manners. 01:00:06 Speaker 2: That I think that would have gotten people on board, and instead they did this big flashy thing and tried to fool all of us, And now is a curse you. 01:00:17 Speaker 3: Okay. I want to ask a question. Are we talking about these things in a good like like and I basically like, are we talking about this in like a global and universal from a global and universal standpoint? Or are we talking about like a momentary this could? Is this? Is this flexible? 01:00:36 Speaker 1: Is this? 01:00:38 Speaker 2: What do you? What? 01:00:38 Speaker 3: Is this fluid? 01:00:40 Speaker 2: And it's absolutely not fluid. This has been written in the book. 01:00:44 Speaker 3: An Insane Insane Person. 01:00:48 Speaker 2: Well, the rest of time will tell I mean you and I will pass into dust. But this statement will carry through the centuries about mister Peanut, and we'll let future future generations decide who was right and who was wrong. 01:01:02 Speaker 3: I feel like it's not going to take future generations, like by the end of the parking Lot people are gonna be like, yeah, no, no, he's great. 01:01:10 Speaker 2: The listener agrees with me. Put is a curse. 01:01:13 Speaker 3: Real quick, and I know this is your show and I don't want to interrupt the game. I can't remember who said this, but it comes up and I think about it a lot when somebody talks about how brilliant Fraser was was because the foil for Fraser was not somebody sort of slovenly. They found someone who was more Frasier than Frasier, right, So ye kind of you are. Honestly, that's probably why you're I'm not saying I agree with you, but that is probably why your version would have been very successful, because nobody would have seen it coming. Thank you. You would have found a classier mister Peanut, and you would have that would have been the foil. 01:01:55 Speaker 2: Right. Imagine Professor Almond shows up and suddenly the country would have gone crazy. The Peanut fortunes would have gone through the roof. 01:02:07 Speaker 3: Oh my god, the little dog comes in wearing a monocle two and you're like, I'm going to scream with happiness. 01:02:17 Speaker 2: I mean, and speaking of Fraser, neither Fraser nor Niles would have ever faked their death. There would have never been a big, splashy Super Bowl ad. 01:02:26 Speaker 3: Well, I think he did die. Wait he did? 01:02:29 Speaker 2: I think he actually did die. Well, this feels and I. 01:02:33 Speaker 3: Feel like, I mean, I don't know if it was like from the from like the loam of his body was born a new peanut, but like, yeah, no, not like I don't remember that happening in Fraser. When you said fakes on death, I was like, fully fun, did the dad fake us on death? Not John Mahoney, Chicago guy Steppenwolf. 01:02:55 Speaker 2: Oh that's right, excellent, I mean excellent actors across the board on that show. Miss Peanut died. 01:03:02 Speaker 3: It was reborn, but I don't know if it was the same mister Peanut but just a baby, or if it was just a baby mister Peanut. 01:03:08 Speaker 2: Oh interesting, Okay, okay, But everyone was so mad about it that the company was like, we can't get further into this. Let's just cut our losses. And go I interrupted, but for a good reason. Now, Catherine, Catherine wants to know gift or a curse QR codes as menus at restaurants. 01:03:31 Speaker 3: I can't be more serious about this. Okay, If you thought I was serious about mister peanut, and I am going to you, guys don't know me very well. I was one hundred percent serious with what I said about mister. If there is a if it is possible to be more than one hundred percent serious about something, QR codes on menus at restaurants are a fucking nightmare, and they need to go away immediately immediately. It's like we we know, like, let's let's not even talk about the COVID part of it, even that part of it where it's like nobody's getting COVID because we fucking touched the same menu. I understand that printering is more valuable than gold, but just print your fucking menus, do not put us on our phones. More that it's a curse you are could. 01:04:27 Speaker 2: Not be more correct about Oh god, I mean, there's no arguing with the QR codes. It feels like it's basically stone age science at this point, or talking about things we were thinking about COVID in March of twenty twenty. Yes, it's not helping anyone. It's not saving anybody. The only thing it's keeping us on our phone. The one time that you shouldn't be on your phone is when you're out to dinner with somebody, and it's giving us another excuse to stare at the phone. 01:04:51 Speaker 3: We got two years off from seeing people, and the moment we could go back to it, we were like, let's look on our phones with them in the room. What a fucking horrible. 01:05:04 Speaker 2: But just even on a like a basic level, the what if you don't have service, it's just a pain. It's an annoying thing. You're you're trying to load the website half the time, the menu is like barely there. 01:05:15 Speaker 3: You're scrolling way more than. 01:05:17 Speaker 1: You need to. 01:05:17 Speaker 3: There's always the sub menu. 01:05:19 Speaker 2: Oh I hate the sub menu, and then like you're going through fifty drinks before you even get to the appetizer. Yes, it's they're also being made by people who don't do websites, so it's just horrible garbage. 01:05:31 Speaker 3: Every once in a while, it's like a PDF that you're pitching to zoom on. I can't do it, and I love to hold a menu. Oh, I love it. 01:05:37 Speaker 2: I love to have a menu in my hands. I get to brows. 01:05:40 Speaker 3: You know what it's like. It's like how we mark, how we age by. Like you know, I'm just fully, like, you know, reading over a menu and then every once in a while, I'll just read the description out loud. You know what. Nobody asks, But I'm like, you know what I mean, lardons, You know what I mean? Yeah, I mean you're not that yet though. Oh I'm in the same egean. I feel like we're like menu generation generation Okay, you sure you have a youthful s if. 01:06:09 Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like the only people who are not Generation Menu are people who are born in the last ten years. Yeah, everybody else knows and loves a menu and it feels anti science to me. Ultimately, it's anti science. Where are you from original Utah? You're from Utah. I'm from Utah. 01:06:26 Speaker 3: What part of Utah? 01:06:27 Speaker 2: Right outside of Salt Lake City? Why are you so surprised? 01:06:31 Speaker 3: I don't know. 01:06:32 Speaker 2: I mean, you don't give me like a big Utah interest. I mean, like, I mean, I think that's Utah has its benefits and it's absolute garbage. 01:06:41 Speaker 3: I feel like, again, this is reductive and prejudice, and I want you to correct me. I might be on the same boat, the same boat. Yeah, we'll be on that same boat boat. Which is definitely the phrase that people say when they are on the same page about something, so that it's either immensely outdoor people campers, right or the other. Yeah. 01:07:10 Speaker 2: There there are all kinds of people on youtub obviously, but a lot of the men I grew up with were obviously very outdoorsy man's man that sort of thing. Uh So maybe, yeah, I probably don't fall into that camp. 01:07:21 Speaker 3: You don't give off a vibe that you're like, I'm gonna go like super like I'm you're not like hiking the Appalachian traip you know what I mean, Like that sort of like pack it in, pack it out vibe. 01:07:33 Speaker 2: So basically, what, just to be clear, what you're saying is everyone from Utah is outdoor trash and I am not capable of hiking. So these are the two things that I don't have the strength or wherewithal to even put on a pair of hiking boots. That's just to be completely you're saying everyone in Utah worth less than garbage. 01:07:52 Speaker 3: Can I ask you a question. Yes, can we somehow forget the last five minutes of our experience to get absolutely not just replacething in your memory that I've said was something better? 01:08:02 Speaker 2: No, you are very clear, Tim, You're very clear. I wouldn't last a second in the great outdoors, and everyone from Utah should be buried. 01:08:12 Speaker 3: I have met people who have gone to Tom Jones's week long outdoor survival camps, and I'm just saying that it doesn't seem yet like you have gone to one of Tom jones this week long outdoor survival camps. But again, this never happened. We never had this conversation. 01:08:33 Speaker 2: Okay, so Utah's burn them all. Me weaker than a worm, Okay, moving on. Okay, you've gotten one out of two so far. You've got one final thing to get us sixty six percent if you get this correct. Listener Sarah Jane wrote in suggestion gift her a curse T shirt cheats, gift he a curse T shirt cheats. 01:08:54 Speaker 3: I think I'm going to be biased on this, okay, because I don't know if I give a shit about sheets T shirt sheets. I feel like I think I have slept on them. I think I maybe even currently am I think I have some at the house. I think that they are fine, okay, And so I would say a gift, I mean, like, okay, a gift or a curse. If we are just going to look at those two, we've got that binary. I would say it would be too much to call them a curse, okay, because that is immensely negative and says that the But like, if it's something's a gift. A gift can be an eight or a gift can be a chewed up dog toy and it's still a gift. 01:09:42 Speaker 2: That's a nice way of looking at it. So it feels like a lot of justifying rationalizing the. 01:09:47 Speaker 3: Fact that I'm calling them a gift. What you've already said makes me think that. 01:09:52 Speaker 2: Are you ready for your final total? Yes, they're a curse, and this is why I think it's a bunch of ball. And it's actually I'll say, a T shirt sheet is confusing. I don't know what it's supposed to mean, supposed to mean it's more comfortable than a regular sheet, or because a T shirt there are so many types of T shirts. First of all, some T shirts are deeply uncomfortable. Some are extremely soft. Some are fine. There's a rainbow of one hundred percent cotton that when I try to think of that as a bed sheet, I spin out in a way. I'm standing in the islet target. I'm like, I don't know if this is supposed to be good or bad. Yeah, And ultimately I moved to the regular sheets. 01:10:33 Speaker 3: So there's the top end of good, which is like, oh, this is like that shirt that you've had forever and now you're sleeping in that, right. But then there's the low end, which is the T shirt that my friend bought and his wife saw it and was like, I can see your nipples and they were already out in public. She was really mad when she said it, and so it like really shamed him because he just thought he was wearing a shirt. 01:10:54 Speaker 2: That wasn't very nice. She should have waited till later. 01:10:56 Speaker 3: It really wasn't very nice. So that's the low That does. 01:11:00 Speaker 2: Sound like a comfortable shirt if your nipples are just flying through it, it's got to be. 01:11:04 Speaker 3: So that's the thing. I feel like, that's a razor thin margin right, like just on the edge of that right, it's I mean, that's living or dying, you know what. I mean and like, because if you're just on the edge of being able to see your nipples, then then it's a very comfortable shirt. What's your favorite what's your favorite T shirt? I've got a bunch of favorite T shirts. 01:11:24 Speaker 2: I will say I've got I have a T shirt that I bought with money I was given on this podcast that says has uh it's somebody just gave me. Someone give me twenty dollars. It was incredible. The comedian Chris Estrada was like, best gift in the world, twenty dollars, and it was kind of right. I mean, that's pretty good. Okay, So I went online. I was like, I've got twenty dollars that has to be spent on something i'll enjoy. I found a vintage T shirt with a picture of teeth with braces on it. It says brace yourself for a smile. Great, it's so soft. If it's so well, if if sheets were made out of that, it was probably made in nineteen eighty three. The cotton is now as soft as possible. If sheet manufacturer said nineteen eighty two T shirt sheets, I'd be on board with it. But yeah, T shirt sheets, curse you got one out of three does the episode get released? If I don't get to we will heavily cut around. Well, you know, sweetening happens. You know, I mentioned editing earlier, and I was lying when I said very little happens. Actually, we basically send it to Lucas Film. Their audio division takes care of things for Wow, So you're gonna look horrible and I'll look even better than I already do, and just raw audio. I'm an A plus right now. So God, this thing's gonna be. It's gonna be solid gold, at least as far as from where I'm standing. 01:12:47 Speaker 3: What do you think our chances are? Download numberswise, download numbers for you? I mean, look and look, this is a This is a place where you can be honest about who I am. There are going to be some people are like, oh hey, great, but like it's not like I don't know Harrison Ford is he looks Harrison Ford. 01:13:04 Speaker 2: Let's say, let's say Harrison Ford and Harrison the invitation's open. Yeah, you're always welcome. Harrison Ford. You're gonna be looking at probably a five million download with your performance today. 01:13:16 Speaker 3: Huh. 01:13:17 Speaker 2: I'm going to say we're looking at fourteen listeners. 01:13:20 Speaker 3: Fourteen. 01:13:21 Speaker 2: I mean, how many people are in your family? 01:13:23 Speaker 3: Well, that would doubt I guess around fourteen. That would doubt. More aren't tired of you, but that aren't tired of me? Right. Do you want to know a wonderful thing that my mom said to me recently? What she said, Tim, is a really wonderful thing that we've all lived long enough for you to become part of the solution and not part of the problem. 01:13:44 Speaker 2: There was probably a period when they were like, Tim's going to be a part of the problem. 01:13:47 Speaker 3: There was definitely not gonna be part of the problem where I was actively a part of the problem. And I think it was really nice for my mom and I to have that moment. And my mom is incredibly funny, and that is incredible. It was great. But now my mom will one, well. 01:14:05 Speaker 2: She better, she better become a dedicated listener. She will, mom, And now I'm talking to well, my mom listens to probably every eighth episode. But your mom, I'm talking to Tim's mom. You're a dedicated listener. 01:14:18 Speaker 3: Now there's no. 01:14:19 Speaker 2: Escaping She'll she couldn't take that to heart. Harrison Ford might be a future I guest. We just opened the invitations so just be prepared for that. Tim We have to answer one one question, one listener question. This is called I said no emails people right into I said no gifts at gmail dot com. I've said up four and I'll say it again. They're desperate, they need help. 01:14:40 Speaker 3: Please don't send gifts at gmail dot com dot biz. 01:14:45 Speaker 2: Will you hope me answer a listener question? 01:14:47 Speaker 3: Let me read this. 01:14:48 Speaker 2: It says, dear Bridger and distinguished guest, which is very nice. 01:14:53 Speaker 3: Kind of a mister peanut vibe. Yeah, you have got it. 01:14:56 Speaker 2: You are bringing the pre Super Bowl mister penat energy that we all fell in love with and then we're ultimately betrayed by. I'm hoping you can help me with a farewell gift for my daughter's daycare teachers. As she moves to the next classroom for context, this classroom has two teachers who care for eight toddlers around eighteen months old. 01:15:15 Speaker 3: That's a lot of kids. 01:15:16 Speaker 2: My kid has picked one as her favorite, and then in parentheses hereafter the favorite, and she clings to this teacher in a way that can get extreme. She cries when the favorite holds another kid and gets so upset that she has accidentally thrown up before the favorite entertains this behavior. Ooh, holding my daughter when she demands and even styles her hair. Both teachers have obviously played a critical role in keeping my child alive and well, but I also want to recognize the special bond that she has with the favorite. Is it weird to give the teachers different gifts or would it be more weird not to when the distinct preference is really no secret? Teacher gifts usually take the form of gift cards, but it seems like branching out might be appropriate here. Any insights you might have And that's from eb uh, that's a great question. Well, sounds like some sort of hypnotism has happened while mom has been away. The favorite has got a hold over this child. 01:16:11 Speaker 3: You ever do we know the age of the child? 01:16:12 Speaker 2: Wait for eighteen months old? Toddler ish? 01:16:15 Speaker 3: Toddler ish? Okay, So you ever see that movie Sleeping with the Enemy. Not Sleeping with the Enemy, No, the hand that Rocks the Cradle? 01:16:23 Speaker 2: No? And I feel like I would love that movie. That title still scares me. Oh yeah, Rebecca to Morning and what happens in it? Well, I think she gets hired. 01:16:33 Speaker 3: As a nanny to like a sort of rich family and then kind of takes the child bond as her own that's a distortion, and starts breastfeeding child. 01:16:42 Speaker 2: Like. 01:16:42 Speaker 3: That's a big moment in the movie where like you see Rebecca to morning like starting to breastfeed the child herself, and knowing what I know now, it actually makes me want to revisit it because I don't because like lactation is not just something you just turn on and off. Yeah, you don't just turn that on and off. So either there's med occasional ball or maybe she has lost a baby. Maybe that's like the motivation behind it. So anyway, I don't I'm gonna have to get into the wiki on that. So that's definitely let's just agree. 01:17:14 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's say, definitely happen baseline, what's happening. 01:17:17 Speaker 3: So you're definitely gonna want to have some sort of like skin lotion just for chapping around around the aerolas. 01:17:27 Speaker 2: So you're saying that for this woman who has been illegally breastfeeding the toddler. 01:17:32 Speaker 3: Yes, that's just one little thing that So here's I think my serious answer on top of that, which I am serious about, would be that I think you should I a lot of teachers in my family, definitely the gift card. Gift card definitely like just just a raw gift card because they have to spend a lot of their own money on stuff for the classroom. That just so like, don't say like, oh it's for this or whatever. Just like, here is money. That's the first thing you should do. Then get something kind of nice whatever, a nice chocolate thing that's not it doesn't have to be expensive. It's just like, here is money. And then here's a little bit of joy, just a tiny bit of joy, right, that is not the main focus. And then I think when it comes to the special teacher, it's okay to have them like draw a picture that says I love you, something like that that. 01:18:31 Speaker 2: I throw up when you're not around. 01:18:33 Speaker 3: Yes, And I think that's how you do it because you don't want to make that other teacher feel excluded, because yes, there was that special connection, but you don't want it. You don't. I also feel weird about maybe implanting in this kid that you like, you don't want to have the kids say you're so much more special to me than this. You just want them to say you're very special to me. I give cards to people around the Huh, but I don't give a card to everybody, right, there's a certain expectation that not everybody's going to get a card, a little drawing from the kids, something special, just for that person to add on to the other two gifts that are the same. 01:19:13 Speaker 2: Okay, that's very nice. Now counterpoint, Oh wow, you get the less special teacher fired. Look, this other person has gone above and beyond to win your daughter's heart. She's combing her hair like wrote or whatever to get those lactation meds. I think this other teacher gets the boot. I mean, you write an anonymous email, maybe from several different accounts, to the school principle or whoever this teachers a problem, and then you of course write one from yourself. Just make sure this other teacher is out of there, and then that teacher won't be around when you give this. You shower this other teacher with gifts and there won't be a problem. 01:19:50 Speaker 3: So are you suggesting in this circumstance that in the email that the mother is sending to the administrators. 01:19:59 Speaker 2: Of the school or whatever from her main account, from her and from her main account, not one of the several fake accounts she set up to also send yes. 01:20:08 Speaker 3: Yes from the Maine account. I am having a problem because my child is and I'm talking about not this is the non favorite teacher. You accuse the non favorite teacher as being the one who is breastfeeding. Oh so yeah, that teacher says, what are you talking about? That's insane. That's the teacher who's gonna believe that that is brilliant. 01:20:33 Speaker 2: See, this is why we have to talk through the ideas together. And then we've gotten rid of this kind of mediocre teacher, this kind of this other teacher who is hypnotizing children gets to keep her job, and she obviously loves doing it, and she's kind of this you know, guru type mysterious and. 01:20:51 Speaker 3: Uh holds a certain power. She gets to hold on to that. 01:20:55 Speaker 2: Yeah, and this other teacher gets to go find another career. 01:20:58 Speaker 3: Because you are right if you're not willing to make the kind of sacrifices that this I mean, like she's putting her body at risk. It's really not. I mean like if you had like a clog duck, Like that's no, that sucks, that sucks. She's really going out of her way. You have to pump when the kids aren't around because it just gets to be painful. You got to store it. You know, you're sacrificing freezer storage. 01:21:25 Speaker 2: Right, she's probably looking up lessons online and just because she's obviously this is just for the kids she's teaching, she's got to figure out how to do it herself. 01:21:32 Speaker 3: I mean, we live in a fucking crazy world, night nurses. There are lactation consultants, Oh, there certainly are. 01:21:39 Speaker 2: So this person's probably paying for lactation consultant lessons. Again, as you mentioned, the gift card will go to paying for things because she was paying for these lessons. Yes, I think it's a perfect gift. Yeah, I think so, And I think we've saw it. We've saved three lives today, and then also all those other kids at that daycare, we've saved all their lives too. Absolutely, I mean we are this is a charity service. Ultimately, this podcast is a charity service. This right here, Think about all the lives that we've affected. We are the butterfly that flaps its wings. 01:22:15 Speaker 3: This is the butterfly effect. This is the beginning of the butterfly effect. You heard it. It will echo through time. Tim. 01:22:22 Speaker 2: I've had such a wonderful time with you. This has been so great that I now have this terrific gift that's actually useful in my life. And thank you for being here. 01:22:31 Speaker 3: It's from my absolute pleasure. Now. 01:22:35 Speaker 2: Fourteen listeners, including Tim's mom. The episode's over, So you've got to go find something else to do. You've got to be productive or maybe not, maybe lays around on the couch all day. 01:22:46 Speaker 3: I don't care. 01:22:46 Speaker 2: Do whatever you want. I love you, goodbye, I said, No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's produced by our dear friend Analise Nelson, and it's beautifully mixed by On Bradley, and we couldn't do it without our guest booker, Patrick Kottmer. The theme song, of course, could only come from miracle worker Amy Man. You must follow the show on Instagram at I said no gifts. I don't want to hear any excuses. That's where you get to see pictures of all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see pictures of the gifts? 01:23:22 Speaker 3: The line why did you hear? 01:23:27 Speaker 1: Gonta man myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest to me, you gotta come to me empty, And I said, no guests your presences presence enough, and I'm already too much stuff. So how do you dare to surbey me?