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Speaker 2: Welcome to, I said, no gifts. I'm Bridger Wineger.

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Speaker 2: It's Timothy Simon's tim Welcome to, I said, no gifts.

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Speaker 3: I'm so happy to be here. I was brought into

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, I had a rich morning. I folded

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Speaker 2: I played Wave Race sixty four. If you must ask,

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Speaker 3: Waverider sixty four, Wave Race waves Lace four sixty four.

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Speaker 2: It's a real vibe and you're on your little jet

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Speaker 3: is by Nintendo Switches emulator.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely the sponsored sponsored not a post, but will eventually

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Speaker 2: Wave Race sixty four. As far as it's kind of

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Speaker 3: They're so literal about the jacket that you can't wear

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Speaker 2: Entire audiences of mum good. Yeah, but we make sure

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Speaker 3: Of course you were. This happened. I admire that that

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Speaker 3: They always put it. We're like, do you want to

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Speaker 3: Is this okay?

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Speaker 2: I mean we can just talk about it. Let's just

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Speaker 3: this dog has to outlive me. I can't. I honestly

439
00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:39,800
Speaker 3: can't imagine.

440
00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,000
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's the worst.

441
00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:42,080
Speaker 3: It's the worst.

442
00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,400
Speaker 2: When that conversation comes up around my boyfriend, he will

443
00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:50,160
Speaker 2: get like very emotional it's a hard thing to think

444
00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:51,800
Speaker 2: about it. Yeah, but it's inevitable.

445
00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:56,120
Speaker 3: It is. Maybe I was trying to teach myself about death.

446
00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:57,760
Speaker 2: You hadn't accepted it.

447
00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,480
Speaker 3: I hadn't accepted it any time. When my kid was

448
00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,400
Speaker 3: like four, we were like, we're going to wait until

449
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 3: the kids asked to get a dog before we get one.

450
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 3: And then the kid asked to get a dog, and

451
00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,879
Speaker 3: we pretended we didn't hear them. You just fully ignored,

452
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,879
Speaker 3: fully for how long? Two years?

453
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Speaker 2: For a while, for a while, and then how did

454
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Speaker 2: you eventually buckle? I mean, what was the thing that

455
00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:26,680
Speaker 2: made you think let's.

456
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,840
Speaker 3: Do it well? There was sort of like a long,

457
00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:35,480
Speaker 3: like a very long story. But just like some therapeutic reasons,

458
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:40,240
Speaker 3: there was a child therapy therapeutic reasons that we ultimately did.

459
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,320
Speaker 2: Right based on the parents not listening to the child

460
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:44,000
Speaker 2: for two years.

461
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,480
Speaker 3: I wonder you're trying to draw a line between two

462
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 3: things that are certain, that are clearly clearly.

463
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 2: I'm a child psychologist, and I see exactly what happened.

464
00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,160
Speaker 3: I see what you're doing. You brought me on here

465
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,920
Speaker 3: to prove that I'm as bad a parent as I

466
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 3: think I am. America's worst parent. That's the name of

467
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:07,639
Speaker 3: this podcast.

468
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 2: Yes, it's kind of an undercover boss situation. I bring

469
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 2: on parents, We have a nice chat for a few minutes,

470
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,920
Speaker 2: and I just I put the pieces together that expose

471
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,640
Speaker 2: them as America's new worst parent. So for the next

472
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,880
Speaker 2: week until my next guest, you kind of wear the crown.

473
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Speaker 3: Okay, what does that look like for me? As far

474
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 3: as I.

475
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:30,720
Speaker 2: Mean, various government services will be looking checking into your home.

476
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,440
Speaker 2: You'll obviously be shamed online. Okay, yeah, you will not

477
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 2: be the cover girl at the pediatrician's office. So I'll

478
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 2: just say that, no brochures, nothing.

479
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 3: Like that, unless it's like a like a print, like

480
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,400
Speaker 3: a photocopied piece of paper that's like do not let

481
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 3: this man in here. But they put it with the

482
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 3: magazines and that'll.

483
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 2: Be distributed all over the nation that little warning. But

484
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,399
Speaker 2: only a week and then you get the chance to recover.

485
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 3: You've flipping through a lot of magazines these days.

486
00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:02,680
Speaker 2: I actually will occasionally subscribe to like they'll have a

487
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,639
Speaker 2: like a whatever magazine will be like get half a

488
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,880
Speaker 2: year from ninety nine cents. I'm like, of course I'm

489
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 2: gonna do that. Did you get a piece of mail?

490
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 2: That I can flip through and and throw away.

491
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 3: Why not?

492
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 2: Although I will say I subscribed to Martha Stewart Living

493
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,120
Speaker 2: with one of these deals and then recently found out

494
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 2: that the magazine shut down. I got a piece of

495
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 2: a piece of mail that said, Martha Stewart no longer

496
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 2: is a magazine. You're not gonna get food and wine

497
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 2: or something. It was like, I was there for Martha,

498
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,879
Speaker 2: and now, yeah, that's the draw. Why was this not

499
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 2: a headline news? That's what I'm asking.

500
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 3: I mean like that seems to like that seems to

501
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 3: sort of shape the foundations of my belief in her

502
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,200
Speaker 3: business acumen, you know what I mean, Like you can't

503
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 3: just be closing up shops.

504
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 2: And letting your readers know that way. Yeah, she should

505
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 2: have reached out.

506
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 3: Were you able to talk to them about some sort

507
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 3: of pro rated ninety nine cent thing or were you like, look,

508
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,719
Speaker 3: I've signed up for Martha, so this is like an

509
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 3: eighty eight cent product or anything.

510
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,160
Speaker 2: I should get like eleven cents back?

511
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 3: You should?

512
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,479
Speaker 2: I absolutely should. Maybe I'll get into that with them

513
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 2: and try to get my money back, because I do

514
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 2: feel cheated. I feel like I've been robbed in the

515
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 2: night and Martha is largely to blame. She's busy opening

516
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 2: a restaurant in Las Vegas. That's her new thing.

517
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:17,719
Speaker 3: She's opening a restaurant in Vegas.

518
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 2: That's as far as her Instagram is telling me. She's

519
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,520
Speaker 2: got a new place in Vegas.

520
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:24,880
Speaker 3: Do you follow Martha Stewart? Could?

521
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 2: I mean, anyone that's on Instagram who isn't following Martha

522
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 2: Stewart is robbing themselves her account is. I mean, she's

523
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 2: doing some really amazing things there.

524
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,400
Speaker 3: Have you been to Vegas recently? I haven't.

525
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 2: Do you like Vegas?

526
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 1: No?

527
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 3: I think I realized that I don't. I think it sucks.

528
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 2: It's not I mean, I guess it's for a lot

529
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 2: of people. It's for a lot of people, but for

530
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 2: someone of the things I'm interested in and the things

531
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:57,439
Speaker 2: that make me comfortable, nothing like that is in Las Vegas.

532
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 3: It seems like it's gonna be relaxing. Went their receip

533
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 3: It's well, I think so Like my wife, I had

534
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 3: been out of town for work and we wanted to

535
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 3: do like a desert kind of relaxing, kid friendly pool thing.

536
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 3: Oh sure, And she was like, I don't know. I

537
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,880
Speaker 3: like found a good deal for like a place that's

538
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 3: comfortable in Vegas. Just fuck it. Let's just drive out

539
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 3: there with the kids. It's got like a kid friendly wavepool.

540
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 3: And it just sucks. It sucks, it sucks, it sucks.

541
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 3: It's so sad and so sad.

542
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 2: Leak things there and there are just a lot of

543
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 2: people who's are hanging by a thread.

544
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 3: They are, and like, God bless them. I'm glad that

545
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 3: they have. I'm glad that somebody has found their happiness.

546
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 2: I don't want to Vegas shame anyway. I don't want

547
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 2: a Vegas just people do love to be there. And

548
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,400
Speaker 2: I will say there is some good food there.

549
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 3: There is, but no, there's definitely some good food. But

550
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 3: I think just I really am somebody that like, after

551
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 3: like that eight and a half hour mark, I'm like, yeah,

552
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 3: I'm good.

553
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,160
Speaker 2: It's such a concentrated burst of what it is. Yeah,

554
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 2: after that per it's poisonous gravy. Yes, And the idea

555
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 2: of like people will go on like a week long

556
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 2: vacation to Las Vegas. I'm like, something very wrong, something

557
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 2: something went wrong. What are you getting out of a

558
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 2: week in Las Vegas.

559
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 3: I don't want to tell people this, but I feel

560
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,120
Speaker 3: like if you are not looking for Vegas. I love

561
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 3: Palm Springs big, but I feel like all of the

562
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 3: things if you want anything that resembles Vegas, but you

563
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 3: don't want to go there, I feel like Palm Springs

564
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 3: has some shit to offer you. Good food. If you

565
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:31,919
Speaker 3: want to gamble, there's that one casino.

566
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,080
Speaker 2: There's a single casino, like right, yes, you can stop

567
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:36,360
Speaker 2: at the Marongo on the way there.

568
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 3: On the way there, I feel like I stayed at

569
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:39,639
Speaker 3: the Marongo. You.

570
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:41,679
Speaker 2: I feel like somebody had a wedding and I had

571
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 2: to stay at the Marongo. The Marongo, I mean it's

572
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,120
Speaker 2: a nicon. I mean it's an iconic place and it's

573
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 2: just there and it's the Marongo, And if you want

574
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 2: to gamble or get a salad bar, that's the stop

575
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 2: in the desert.

576
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Speaker 3: I don't want to tell you how to run your podcast,

577
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 3: but it feels like if you're not proactively going after

578
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 3: Nintendo and Marongo, because you actually did just then a

579
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 3: really beautiful ad read for Marongo.

580
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,360
Speaker 2: Marongo reach Out. I mean, we've got to get Maroano

581
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 2: on board. I would love for this to become entirely

582
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 2: funded by video games and gambling. I mean we'll see

583
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 2: what happens. We'll see what happens. We you're getting there, Tim,

584
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 2: We have danced around something, a real elephant in the

585
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 2: backyard and in this current room for too long. You

586
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 2: obviously brought a gift to my podcast.

587
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 3: I said, no gifts. I did.

588
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 2: It's in a beautiful brown bag, so unbelievably tasteful, this

589
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 2: ber thank you. I'm furious should I open it here

590
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 2: on the show.

591
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 3: I think you should open it on this show because

592
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 3: when people say like, oh, you know, like my present

593
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 3: is your presence? Sure, you know what I mean. When

594
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 3: people say that, baloney, you still gotta bring them a

595
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 3: little something, you know what I mean? You bring him something,

596
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:00,040
Speaker 3: You bring them.

597
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 2: Right, If my presence is the present, you've got to

598
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 2: have a real nice view of yourself if you really

599
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 2: think that just showing up is enough.

600
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 3: Oh no, that's what the person said. Sorry, your presence.

601
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 3: You're saying like I don't want anything but you there,

602
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 3: which I do think is a nice It's a nice.

603
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 2: Let's get into this bag here.

604
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 3: I'm gonna open it up now.

605
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 2: This is a sound effect that we can put on

606
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 2: the mic that people are happy to hear. Tissue crinkling

607
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 2: or reaching in. I'm pulling, okay, I've pulled out. Oh,

608
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 2: I'm honestly thrilled to see this. This is an item.

609
00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 2: I would never buy it for myself because I would

610
00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 2: never think about it. It's a garlic press, and slicer'

611
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,719
Speaker 2: are having an honest response. I honestly yeah, because there

612
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 2: are these little things that I'm not a big cooker,

613
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 2: and so I don't buy a lot of because I

614
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 2: rarely cook. But then the times that I do, I'm

615
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 2: suddenly like peeling the garlic or pressing it with a

616
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 2: fork and ruining my evening.

617
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, but tell me why you brought this. I saw

618
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 3: it was over at somebody's house, and I do like

619
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 3: a fair I don't enjoy my My wife cooks a lot.

620
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 3: That's like the thing that she likes to do. I'm

621
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 3: not a big into it, and I'm not a big

622
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 3: fan of a garlic press. Okay, garlic press is maybe

623
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 3: a lot of work for not a lot of reward

624
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 3: and a lot of cleanup. The cleanup crazy, it's crazy

625
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 3: in a garlic almost impossible, almost impossible, and it saves

626
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 3: you almost no time at all. But I was over

627
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 3: at somebody's house, and I saw them using the slice

628
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 3: her part, and that's when I was like, okay, so

629
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 3: the oh okay.

630
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 2: So to describe it to the listener, it looks almost

631
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 2: like a little phone. Let's be honest. It looks like

632
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 2: a wireless phone. It looks like a little wire wordless

633
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 2: But it has the natural that we're all familiar with

634
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 2: the press, which is the little holes that you use

635
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 2: once and then for the rest of your life are

636
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 2: scraping or you are scraping garlic out of. But below it,

637
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 2: where kind of you would talk on the phone, is

638
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 2: the slicer. And is it easier to use the slicer?

639
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 2: Is it easier to clean the slice?

640
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 3: I don't know, because this is the thing. I bought

641
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 3: you this because I thought you'd appreciate it.

642
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 2: And I do. I have to be very honest here,

643
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 2: I'm looking you in the eye. I am thrilled about this.

644
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 3: Okay, great. I have never used one, Okay, I just

645
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 3: very recently saw somebody using one and thought with this

646
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 3: all dovetail in a very nice way in that when

647
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 3: I was asked to come on your show, please no gifts,

648
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 3: I said, I said, no gifts. How dare you? How Daari.

649
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 3: You here's the thing. Your presence. Your presence is my present.

650
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 3: So when I was asked to come on the podcast,

651
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 3: this actually came right around the same time that I

652
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 3: went to dinner at this person's house, and I was like, Oh,

653
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 3: that's the thing that I like doing. When it comes

654
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 3: to gift giving, I like to I think a gift

655
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 3: should make that person's life better, right in that way

656
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 3: of like, what do you.

657
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 2: Get for a guy who has everything exactly and get

658
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 2: him a little something that you get him a little

659
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 2: something that is immensely useful that will save them time

660
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 2: and allow for like the like somebody put it to

661
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 2: me in a good way, like about a month ago

662
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 2: when he for Christmas got me one of those Ember mugs,

663
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 2: which is like a coffee mug that is charged and

664
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 2: it keeps your.

665
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 3: Coffee or teath I've never heard of. It's like a

666
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 3: little oven. It's like a little oven for coffee and

667
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 3: it just keeps at the exact same temperature and you

668
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 3: set the temperature and it just stays there. And there

669
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 3: are gonna be no big jumps forward in my life

670
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 3: from now on, like I have experienced. I think all

671
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 3: of the like the big headers right of experience. So

672
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 3: there's no I'm not gonna be like, I'm not gonna

673
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 3: I'm never gonna have twenty percent more fun or I'm

674
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 3: never gonna be twenty percent halfier, but like something is

675
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 3: gonna come along that makes my life like a half

676
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 3: a percent better and like that Ember thing was a great, Like, oh,

677
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 3: my life is a half a percent better because of this,

678
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 3: And that's so that's enormous.

679
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 2: That's I mean an adult life.

680
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 3: In adult life, that is enormous. And so I feel like,

681
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 3: even though I haven't used this, I feel like this

682
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 3: is going to occupy that kind of space where like

683
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 3: it's not that this gift is is what is helpful

684
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 3: to you, it's the time that you aren't spending slicing

685
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 3: garlic and what do you do with that time? That's

686
00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 3: what I am.

687
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 2: And also when you're slicing garlic on your own, free

688
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 2: form free rain, yeah, yeah, you slice a finger off that,

689
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 2: I mean an entire an entire lose, an entire limb.

690
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 2: You know, don't tell me how to slice my garlic too.

691
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 3: It's so funny that you would say that you don't

692
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 3: cook a lot when I mean, I guess it makes

693
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 3: sense when the steaks are that high.

694
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 2: But yeah, you're saving me from hospital trips, doctor trips,

695
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 2: and then most of the time just a little bit

696
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 2: of time.

697
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 3: Well, I guess in my head I was thinking more

698
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 3: just like some extra time with your dog or your

699
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 3: white friend or the ones you love, you know what

700
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 3: I mean, Like, I guess, not the doctor, but.

701
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 2: Worst case scenario. You've saved me from the worst case scenario.

702
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,959
Speaker 2: And these nice little moments when it's just cutting off

703
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 2: a little bit of the time of my cooking. And

704
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 2: I think this really is the best type of gift.

705
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 2: I mean, another thing I got on this podcast was

706
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:57,959
Speaker 2: a car garbage can.

707
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 3: Have you had one of these? No, but I have

708
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 3: had a whole bunch of shopping bags or you know

709
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 3: what I mean, like grocery bags in the front seat. God,

710
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 3: this is the way to do it.

711
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 2: And now you've got to get the you buy the

712
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 2: one that hangs off the back of the head rest.

713
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,959
Speaker 2: It's it's again, one of these things. It's just changed

714
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 2: my life enough that I can't believe I was living

715
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 2: any other way and now it's like a new me.

716
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 3: Can I ask you a question, of course, what do

717
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 3: you say when a new person gets into the car

718
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 3: and sees the car trash can. Because this is I'm

719
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 3: not going to say this isn't an amazing gift. I'm

720
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 3: just wondering if that's going to be a sticking point

721
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 3: for some people.

722
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 2: It depends on where they're located in the car. So

723
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 2: if we've got a passenger in the front passenger seat,

724
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 2: they don't even bother telling them, you don't.

725
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 3: I saw it when they were like walking by the

726
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 3: car to get into the passenger But they can do it.

727
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 2: They can make whatever assumptions they want because they get front,

728
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 2: they get shot gun. They have the power to make

729
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 2: their decisions with what I'm doing with my life now,

730
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 2: if there's somebody in the back right seat who now

731
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 2: has a face full of garbage, a lot of apologizing,

732
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 2: a lot of lying about how I empty it more

733
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:16,720
Speaker 2: often than I do, because this thing is it's probably

734
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 2: once every eighteen months that I'm happening this garbage so

735
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 2: back left person. It depends on my mood. I might

736
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 2: mention it, I might not. I will say, regardless of

737
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 2: the person, I'm selling this to them, I'm selling them

738
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 2: on the idea of the garbage. I'm telling them that

739
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 2: despite the fact that it's created kind of a social situation.

740
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 2: In that moment when I'm alone, I'm writing, free and

741
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 2: careless and loving life of my garbage in its own

742
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 2: little container.

743
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 3: What do you feel like?

744
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 2: Is the.

745
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 3: Like the I guess the liquid volume of the liquid volume?

746
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,439
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess liquid volume. How do we measure trash?

747
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 3: Back right, we're talking about Oh are we talking court size?

748
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:01,399
Speaker 3: Is that how we measure trash?

749
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 2: Clue announces how many I would say that this would

750
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 2: probably take a half gallon. If I were to take

751
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 2: a half gallon of milk and just dump it in there,

752
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 2: which I've been known to do, Uh, it would probably

753
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 2: just slosh around in the back of the car.

754
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 3: Does that have a top? No top? So it's kind

755
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 3: of it is spilling out a little bit. It's spilled.

756
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 2: There are receipts all over the furcase. And now that

757
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 2: we're talking about it, I'm really thinking it's been too

758
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 2: long since I last emptied it. But it's all dry trash.

759
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 2: I'm not putting in, you know, like a soda cup.

760
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 2: I'm not putting in a banana peel. Nothing that could

761
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 2: decompose this is It's the way it's really saved me

762
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:41,800
Speaker 2: is like if I go through a drive through or

763
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 2: I like at Target, they forced the receipt on me

764
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 2: when I didn't need the receipt. It's going in there.

765
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 2: So it's essentially all receipts. So I don't know how

766
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,320
Speaker 2: much private information.

767
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 3: Is on a receipt.

768
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 2: You're allowed to put any Okay, then I'm safe. If

769
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 2: I think you're safe. No, no car thief would be

770
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 2: able to dial in anything. I mean I do put

771
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 2: ATM receipts in there on occasion.

772
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't think. I think. I think it

773
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 3: really is at the point where I think at some

774
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 3: point they were getting sued because there was a time

775
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 3: after it was like you your credit card number would

776
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 3: be on the receipt, not just like the xxx and

777
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 3: then the last four my god, just like you're like

778
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 3: your broad dog credit card number just right there, and

779
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 3: somebody like caught win that like pets like whatever pet

780
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 3: Co or I don't know, Please pet COO, don't sue,

781
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 3: Please not gifts. What was the name of this again,

782
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 3: Please don't sue this podcast gifts? No, thank you? Yeah,

783
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 3: that's it. Yes, So I think Petco was leaving the

784
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,720
Speaker 3: credit card numbers on there after the law was passed,

785
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 3: somebody like what sued them and like got a bunch

786
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 3: of money they should have.

787
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 2: I mean, no, you don't need to be a security

788
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 2: expert and know that's a terrible like that's crazy, what

789
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,479
Speaker 2: are we even talking about? And also it would probably

790
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 2: save them money and ink not putting the full number

791
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 2: on there?

792
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 3: What was the the X is there ending on the number?

793
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 3: Like if the number is a a one, then the

794
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 3: X is definitely more ink.

795
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 2: Well, you're kind of a printer expert, kind of an

796
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 2: ink master kind.

797
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 3: Of yeah, I mean I guess you know. I mean,

798
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 3: if you're trying to be cool, I mean, I suppose

799
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 3: you'd call me an ink master. Wait is that the

800
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 3: name of that reality show?

801
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 2: And I believe that show was about people like getting

802
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 2: into printers and I never saw it, but you're right. Yeah,

803
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 2: it was kind of like they'd look at your epsom's,

804
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 2: your HPS, your.

805
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 3: HPS and they'd be like hey, You'd be like, hey,

806
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 3: do I need like this app for my phone? They're like, look,

807
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 3: you're never going to use that. They would be like

808
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 3: the real inside.

809
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 2: Ship the drama of that reality show. Have you ever

810
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 2: tried to use like a non off brand in nightmare, nightmare.

811
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 2: It's such a lesson learned, but it's you're like, oh,

812
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 2: it's half the price, and ink is such a waste

813
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 2: of money. Of course I'll go with X brand and

814
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 2: then it blows up in your printer or smears all

815
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:09,240
Speaker 2: over the place.

816
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 3: Have you reached a point in your life where you're

817
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 3: either not printing enough or where you just like, fucking

818
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 3: I want to buy the name brand.

819
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 2: I have to buy the name brandk I mean, I've

820
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 2: learned the lesson multiple times. Well, I guess that doesn't

821
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 2: I guess I didn't learn the lesson the first few times.

822
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 2: After a while it was like, okay, you just have

823
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 2: to buy the name brand. You've got you over the

824
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 2: barrel and there's so little printing done anymore. Yeah, you

825
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 2: buy one and it's a year's worth of ink.

826
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 3: It really is.

827
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 2: But the price is what could possibly justify the cost

828
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:41,760
Speaker 2: of ink? I don't understand.

829
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 3: I think somebody broke it down and when it comes

830
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 3: to like a per buy a per ounce again. This

831
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 3: is how this is how trash bags are measured too.

832
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 3: So I don't want to confuse the audience of measurements

833
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 3: or liquid volumes or whatever. But I think per ounce

834
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 3: printer ink retails or more than gold. Oh I believe that. Yeah,

835
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 3: Like like like we're just talking like raw weight versus price.

836
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 3: It's more expensive than gold.

837
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 2: Why aren't people rioting?

838
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 3: I mean we should take to the streets. That's ridiculous.

839
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 3: I have a friend who has an ex boyfriend. She

840
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 3: was somebody this is the well Okay, okay, I'm not

841
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 3: going to say it's a friend because it's more like

842
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 3: a friend of a friend. Okay, okay. It was a

843
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 3: lie that I like happened to know a lot about.

844
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 3: And she was like one of those people that was

845
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 3: like it was like a was very young, but like

846
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 3: a very high powered lawyer and like dated princes. Oh.

847
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 3: But then eventually started dating this unemployed guy and he

848
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 3: was watching that show Shark Tank, of course, and there

849
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:49,240
Speaker 3: was like a printer in company that those people didn't

850
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 3: they were like no, right, So he was like, I'm

851
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 3: going to invest in that what he watched the show

852
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,479
Speaker 3: and when they all said no to it, he said, yes,

853
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 3: he got in on it, got in on it, and

854
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 3: did he make money? I don't.

855
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 2: Oh, I thought you were gonna be like and now

856
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 2: he's a Printon. Now he has no no no no,

857
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 2: no no no no.

858
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 3: I believe they broke up, and I doubt he's dead.

859
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 3: He's he's dead.

860
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 2: Anyone who watches Shark Tank and watches all of these

861
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 2: expert investors pass on a product and then it's like

862
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 2: time to put my life savings towards that. That's a

863
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 2: dangerous lifestyle.

864
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 3: Have you ever been on a reality show? I haven't.

865
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 2: I feel like there was a period that like that

866
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 2: could have happened or something like just by accident. But

867
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 2: have you no, no, no no, would you no?

868
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 3: I don't think so.

869
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:42,800
Speaker 2: Even like an Amazing Race type situation, there's.

870
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 3: A long pause, there's a long thoughtful I think ultimately, no, right,

871
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 3: because I think there is that because like the Amazing

872
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 3: Race is pretty like when it comes to reality shows,

873
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 3: the ones that I do watch, I do think are

874
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,919
Speaker 3: more like skill or talent or adventure based like whatever

875
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,879
Speaker 3: project Runways and called drag race things where it is like, okay,

876
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 3: these are about about celebrating people rather than just displaying

877
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 3: wild wild people. Yes, I don't know. Even if I

878
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 3: didn't do what I do for a job, I don't

879
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 3: think that I'm the person that wants to be performative

880
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 3: in that way, right, do you know what I mean?

881
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 3: I don't ultimately think that I would be. I like

882
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 3: wish I could be that person if I didn't do

883
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 3: what I did, But I don't think ultimately I think

884
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 3: I would be too uncomfortable like putting on that kind

885
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,959
Speaker 3: of show, you know what I mean. Yeah, I feel

886
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 3: like I could.

887
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 2: If somebody was like, we're going to finance your race

888
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 2: around the world, no cameras, I'd be on board with us.

889
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, But.

890
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 2: The moment that I'm like, oh, I'm going to be

891
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 2: on CBS yelling at my partner, I don't know that

892
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 2: I could get into it exactly. Did you ever watch

893
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 2: that show alone? No, I've heard amazing things about this.

894
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 3: My little brother is kind of he's when you say

895
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 3: survivest it sounds bad, but he's just like a guy.

896
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 3: He like want He wanted to like learn how to

897
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 3: live in the woods, right, and he did. He has

898
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 3: like a family now, like he and his wife. They

899
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 3: own a little cabin. They're about to get plumbing. It's

900
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 3: a great Oh congrats, yea, everyone involved. He wanted to

901
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 3: learn how to live in the woods. If for some

902
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 3: reason something went terribly wrong and the plane crash, like

903
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 3: we all had to rehatchet.

904
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 2: When a kid, of course, hatch it comes to mind

905
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 2: immediately so he can do all that stuff.

906
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 3: How does he learn he went to like camps when

907
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 3: he was in high school? Wow, that's amazing. There's a

908
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 3: guy named Tom Jones and not not the Welsh Tom,

909
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 3: not the Welsh Jones.

910
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,760
Speaker 2: Isn't that shocking that when I found out Tom Jones

911
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 2: was Welsh and my whole world talking about things shifting

912
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 2: your reality? Yeah, I always thought he was like a

913
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 2: sexy American guy.

914
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 3: He's Welsh, he's well, I mean well sexy Welshman.

915
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:52,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, sexy Welshman.

916
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 3: So Tom Jones, uh like a you know, a wilderness

917
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 3: survival guy in New Jersey, runs camps, right, adults and

918
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,240
Speaker 3: kids and my little brother. He's into that kind of stuff.

919
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 3: So my wife and I started watching it during the

920
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 3: pandemic Great Pandemic show, and I remember even as I

921
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 3: was like, oh, this might be the one that I

922
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 3: would be like, I'd really like to see if I

923
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 3: could survive in this way. But then I'm like, oh,

924
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 3: you gotta like set up the cameras, and that's that

925
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 3: stresses me out. Right, you are fucking alone, like you're

926
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 3: the one that has to carry the camera, and I'm

927
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 3: just like after like three or four days and be

928
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 3: like this shit's hard enough.

929
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:34,439
Speaker 2: I'm not Also the panic of like is the camera working? Yeah,

930
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 2: they like they run them through like a whole tech

931
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 2: training oh thing and tech school or something.

932
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. I couldn't do that.

933
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 2: I had to on Elise recently was doing Remotely Engineered

934
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 2: the podcast while we recorded in the backyard and I

935
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 2: had to set up the audio equipment myself and I

936
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 2: had a heart attack. So the idea of being out

937
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 2: in the middle of the forest setting up cameras that

938
00:44:55,840 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 2: would be recording me desperate. Yes, that would be a hard,

939
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 2: hard thing.

940
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,240
Speaker 3: I think I should watch this show because it's pretty

941
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 3: amazing what what the people on this show can do.

942
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 3: Has anyone died on it, No, but they're they do

943
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 3: wellness checks and the conceit of the show. I don't

944
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 3: know if you know this is that you don't know

945
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 3: how you don't. There are ten people they get they

946
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 3: get put in similar circumstances, but like miles and miles

947
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 3: away from one another, right, so you have no idea

948
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 3: how many people are left. It's just you stay out

949
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 3: here until the day where we show up and tell

950
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 3: you one. So there is like a psychological mind fuck

951
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,240
Speaker 3: to it. But they do wellness checks every two weeks,

952
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 3: and there have been people who have been had like

953
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 3: had to be pulled because they're like, I haven't had

954
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 3: protein in seven days, my water source has begun to

955
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 3: dry up, and or like there's in this one case,

956
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 3: this one dude was like he was so fucked up

957
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 3: from being hungry. He made like this little two story

958
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 3: like food story thing because you managed to like kill

959
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 3: a moose. And then he had built a ladder up

960
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 3: to the second story, but he left the ladder up

961
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 3: and the raccoon got up there and like ate all

962
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 3: the protein. And so even though he had like a

963
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 3: moose he had like moose meat, he was starving to

964
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,439
Speaker 3: death even though he had food because he wasn't getting

965
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 3: enough of the.

966
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 2: Other true because this raccoon had a Thanksgiving.

967
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 3: This raccoon went fucking nuts. Or maybe it was a wolverine.

968
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 3: I mean that wolverine's a star. That's an absolute star

969
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 3: or raccoon. We don't want to take credit away from her.

970
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 3: Can I go back and ask you a question? Of course,

971
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 3: and if there are other people in the room that

972
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 3: want to weigh in on this, that maybe spend a

973
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 3: lot of time with you, honly how I would say

974
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 3: skill of one to ten? How honest were you being

975
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 3: about liking the gift that I got you? I was

976
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 3: you really want to know? I do?

977
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna give a real honest I'm say

978
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 2: an eight really yes and eight. It's on at least

979
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:57,479
Speaker 2: what were you thinking? Accurate, accurate, sellent truth. I'm telling

980
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 2: you the truth because this is something it's not too big,

981
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 2: so it's not like in a clutter. It's something I

982
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 2: put away in my insane drawer of kitchen gadgets that

983
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 2: get used on occasion. Now it'll go in there and

984
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 2: then when the time comes.

985
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 3: I'm set.

986
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 2: I'm absolutely set, and I don't have to think about it.

987
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:19,320
Speaker 3: This makes me so happy. This makes me so happy,

988
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 3: because there is I think there's like a oh gosh,

989
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 3: I can't remember what the there's like a Reddit thing.

990
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 3: I don't want to talk about. Reddit brought it up,

991
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 3: fucking worst. Why did I There is like that thing

992
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 3: of like there is like a reddit something of like

993
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 3: you had one job, which is like people failing to do,

994
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,439
Speaker 3: which sure is funny. But there is one I can't

995
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 3: remember what it's called where it is like you have

996
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 3: one job or something like that. It is a collection

997
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 3: of tools that have one purpose, oh use and it

998
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 3: is the singular most satisfying thing I have ever seen.

999
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 2: Wait, so it's like showing you differ tools that can

1000
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 2: do one thing really well, Yes, it is that, but

1001
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 2: it is also so like, let's say you have a

1002
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 2: door that every like, every time you open it, it

1003
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 2: bumps your It bumps your dresser. Oh sure, I live

1004
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 2: with it forever, just let it ruin my life.

1005
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 3: Yes. It also is a way of showcasing people who

1006
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 3: have decided to take the step. Oh I need this

1007
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,959
Speaker 3: the thing so that when you open the door, they've

1008
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 3: like notched it out perfectly so that it just like

1009
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 3: it's right through. So satisfying. It is unbelievable, and I

1010
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:38,320
Speaker 3: recommend everybody.

1011
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 2: Okay, I've got to look this up. Well, yeah, I've

1012
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 2: got this tool now, and like you did an amazing job.

1013
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 3: Can I ask you a question? Yeah, of course? Do

1014
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 3: other people? Well, can I ask you two questions? You

1015
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 3: are allowed two questions. Do other people that have been

1016
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,879
Speaker 3: guests have they do they ask this main question.

1017
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 2: Some guests are very question based. Some people, and I

1018
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 2: think this just speaks to a lot of people. Some

1019
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 2: people don't know conversationally, don't care about the other person

1020
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 2: in the room.

1021
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 3: Oh okay, that had that experience.

1022
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 2: Not that often, but run into somebody on occasion that

1023
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,280
Speaker 2: has no interest in asking questions.

1024
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 3: Has anybody ever not brought a gift because it seems rude,

1025
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 3: even though we are explicitly asked not to.

1026
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 2: I've basically gotten a gift from everybody, Okay, some some

1027
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 2: sort of item. I mean it's ranged from like pieces

1028
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 2: of garbage to useful things to really just like thoughtful things.

1029
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 3: Something's brought you a piece of garbage, a.

1030
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 2: Literal chewed up dog toy. I mean we can name it,

1031
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 2: name her Jamie Lee. She gave it to me, and

1032
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 2: it was wonderful to get it. But that's the one

1033
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 2: item I've completely just thrown away, okay, whereas like this is,

1034
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 2: this is not staying in my house. This simply I'm not.

1035
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,800
Speaker 2: I can't have a chewed up chicken hanging around, okay,

1036
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:56,439
Speaker 2: but otherwise it I would say useful items one in ten,

1037
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 2: one in ten, and then maybe eight items which are

1038
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 2: just like can become purely decorative or are just the

1039
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:05,520
Speaker 2: thing that I have to figure out how.

1040
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 3: To live with. How many of these have you given away?

1041
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 3: And what do you think the average amount of time

1042
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 3: is before you give it away.

1043
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 2: I have yet to give anything away.

1044
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 3: How many of these have you done? Hundreds? What are

1045
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 3: you you?

1046
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know what to tell you. I

1047
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 2: don't know what to tell anyone at this point. It's

1048
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,320
Speaker 2: very it's a threat.

1049
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 3: To my life.

1050
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 2: One hundred and thirty, one hundred and thirty.

1051
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 4: You have one hundred and thirty. You have this beautiful,

1052
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 4: like minimalist hold that you live in. I don't know

1053
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 4: what's happening to them. I mean, sometimes people will give

1054
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 4: me food so that will be eaten, but that that's

1055
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 4: not that often. They're kind of just piling up.

1056
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 3: I don't know what to do.

1057
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 2: It does feel a little bit of a monkey paw

1058
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 2: situation where it's at some point I'm going to have

1059
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 2: to have like a charity yard sale or something because

1060
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 2: I simply can't sustain having this many gifts brought to me.

1061
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 3: Would you really donate into charity?

1062
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,240
Speaker 2: Absolutely?

1063
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 3: Okay?

1064
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 2: I mean I mean the threat of being discovered alone.

1065
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:11,280
Speaker 2: That would be a great scandal though, just taking pocketing

1066
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 2: money of under the guise of charity. I mean, if

1067
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 2: I if I ever want to just burn it all down,

1068
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,800
Speaker 2: That's what I'll do. I'll have this charity yard sale

1069
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:21,919
Speaker 2: and then I'll buy a flashy car with the money.

1070
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 3: I was talking to a guy because I coached some

1071
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 3: some like rec league. I coached like rec league sports teams.

1072
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 3: Oh what kind of sports? I did baseball in the spring, okay,

1073
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:37,440
Speaker 3: flag football before that. Oh my god, I've coached basketball

1074
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 3: before coming up. I'm gonna be doing softball next spring. Okay.

1075
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 3: But I remember talking to a guy who was also

1076
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 3: a coach in the rec league thing. He I think

1077
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 3: he's in the you know, whenever we work in like

1078
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:51,920
Speaker 3: a steel mill town. He also works at the factory

1079
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 3: talking about factory, yes, yes. And I was talking about

1080
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 3: this plan that I had for like how to different

1081
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 3: and this is going to get it. I don't think

1082
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 3: this is I'm not trying to say that, this is

1083
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 3: like an idea that only I've had. Wow, what a genius,

1084
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,800
Speaker 3: funny idea, you know what I mean, Like how to

1085
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 3: defraud Trump supporters? And and I was saying like it

1086
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:16,839
Speaker 3: were like, Okay, how do we word this in such

1087
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 3: a way where it's like, if you're a true maga

1088
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 3: American whatever, just you know, fight, you know, stop the

1089
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 3: steal x y Z. Here's this go fundmelink, right, But like,

1090
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,280
Speaker 3: at no point do I ever say it is essentially

1091
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 3: what he is already do.

1092
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 2: Right, I was going to say, just run for president,

1093
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 2: just MP. But and so we were kind of talking

1094
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 2: about this, and I'm not I'm not trying to bring

1095
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 2: up Donald Trump. Where the fucking I don't want to

1096
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 2: talk about him. But what I think what happened was

1097
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 2: is that I was having a conversation with this guy

1098
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 2: and by the end of the conversation he said like, yeah,

1099
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,839
Speaker 2: but in order to do that, we'd need like walk

1100
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 2: away money, And I.

1101
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,800
Speaker 3: Was like, whoa. He was on fuck. He was on

1102
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 3: board so much that he was thinking about like we

1103
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 3: not like if your walk away numbers like ten million,

1104
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 3: to just be like, yeah, I set my reputation on

1105
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 3: fire and I'm going to live in a different country

1106
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 3: for the rest of my life if that was like

1107
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 3: my walkway number. He was like, how are we going

1108
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 3: to get to twenty? Or like what is mine you

1109
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 3: know what I mean, because I'm not gonna split it

1110
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 3: with it. Of course, not not in this situation. This

1111
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 3: dude was so on board, and I loved like, we

1112
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 3: didn't discuss it. He was just like, Yeah, what are

1113
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 3: we gonna That's incredible? Isn't that great?

1114
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 2: You should go on Shark Tank.

1115
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,879
Speaker 3: You're obviously a natural picture, natural natural people on board.

1116
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 2: I remealok for someone to go on Shark Tank and

1117
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 2: they're pitching how to differ odd Trump supporters sharks today.

1118
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 3: And they're like, I want one hundred percent of that.

1119
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 3: We will make so much money. I didn't mean to

1120
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 3: do that, to do what bring up?

1121
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 2: You know, it was a fun way to bring it up.

1122
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 2: Everybody's talked about it so much. But look, I mean

1123
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 2: for four years that's it was unavoidable. It was, but

1124
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 2: now it's avoidable. Why aren't we avoiding it? Why did

1125
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 2: you see what I did that you dragged? Aren't we

1126
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 2: avoiding it?

1127
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 3: I said, I'm sorry, Tim, I think it's time to

1128
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 3: play a game. I would love to.

1129
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:09,800
Speaker 2: We're gonna play a game called.

1130
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 3: Gift I say something. Of course, this has been so fun.

1131
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 2: I'm having a great time despite the pressure of the

1132
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 2: neighbors and the panic.

1133
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,359
Speaker 3: And I was late and you, oh, give me a break.

1134
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 2: I thought it's been later before without apology, and you're

1135
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 2: sitting on my workout bench. I feel like, what an

1136
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 2: uncomfortable Okay, I hope so. I feel like as a

1137
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 2: tall guy, i'd be more uncomfortable. Interesting, but I kind

1138
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 2: of like this. Okay, yeah, the moment you're uncomfortable, I

1139
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 2: want to know. But uh, okay, this is We're gonna

1140
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 2: play a game called Gift for a Curse. I need

1141
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,879
Speaker 2: a number between one and ten from you. Uh four, Okay,

1142
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 2: I have to do some just the lightest of calculating.

1143
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,879
Speaker 2: While I'm doing this. You can recommend something, promote something

1144
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 2: to whatever you want.

1145
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 3: I'll be right. Oh great. Oh So I found myself

1146
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,399
Speaker 3: as much as I love television, there's just too much

1147
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 3: of it, and I found myself missing like a contained story.

1148
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 3: So I've been like kind of nightly. I'm the one

1149
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:02,919
Speaker 3: that stays up the latest in my family. So after

1150
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 3: everybody goes to bed, I stay up and I watch

1151
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 3: Pardon me, I just burped. You can leave that inter

1152
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:11,879
Speaker 3: cut that out. That's a fucking crazy world. So I've

1153
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:15,800
Speaker 3: been staying up and like watching like either movies that

1154
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 3: I really love and that I need to see again

1155
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 3: or movies that I've never seen. And it's been a

1156
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:23,839
Speaker 3: really amazing experience to go back and see a lot

1157
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 3: of things that I should have seen. And recently that

1158
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 3: has been a lot of uh like sort of la

1159
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:33,320
Speaker 3: noir crime stories, both modern and old, so like The

1160
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:37,040
Speaker 3: Big Heat, UD and Double Indemnity, and I just watched

1161
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,359
Speaker 3: Wrath of Man I think is like a modern La

1162
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 3: noir that's fucking amazing. But like The Big Heat, which

1163
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 3: was like I think, like one of the pre eminent noirs.

1164
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 3: It was like like I think before they discovered like

1165
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 3: the lighting, uh the like the dark sort of you know,

1166
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 3: slat lighting thing. It's kind of very brightly lit. That

1167
00:55:55,960 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 3: movie goes so fucking hard. It goes so oh fucking hard.

1168
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 3: I have no idea how they got away with what

1169
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 3: they did in that story. Nothing good happens to anybody.

1170
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 3: And also all that jazz the Bob Fossey, Oh, I

1171
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 3: guess like biopic but he changes all the names where

1172
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 3: he's basically like, I'm the worst person alive. I just

1173
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 3: happened to be a good choreographer, and everybody fucking hates

1174
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 3: me and I'm a piece of shit. Like the movie

1175
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 3: that he wrote about himself, it fucking bangs so hard,

1176
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 3: it's so good, and I had never seen it. I've neither.

1177
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 2: I haven't seen Wrath of Man or uh what did

1178
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 2: all that jazz?

1179
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 3: You haven't? No, they obviously all that jazz is not

1180
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 3: nor but but like watch Wrath of Man, Guy Ritchie,

1181
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 3: but it doesn't feel like a Guy Richie movie. It's

1182
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 3: like it is in fact, like very deliberately paced in

1183
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:54,399
Speaker 3: an amazing way, and all that jazz feels it's gonna

1184
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 3: be like, oh, whatever this is gonna be, it is amazing.

1185
00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 2: Okay, those are great recommendation. I hope that some of

1186
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 2: did you do your calculation, I've got my calculating.

1187
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 3: We're ready to go.

1188
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 2: Okay, this is how this game works. Okay, I'm gonna

1189
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 2: name three things. You're gonna tell me if there're a

1190
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 2: gift or a curse and why? Okay, and then I'll

1191
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 2: tell you if you're correct or wrong. There are right

1192
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 2: and wrong answers here, so you can I mean, you

1193
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:15,359
Speaker 2: could absolutely fail. Can I ask a question?

1194
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 3: Of course, who's like the barometer of whether it's right

1195
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 3: or wrong is it you, uh, the.

1196
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 2: Sense of justice in the universe. Okay, it's kind of

1197
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 2: the ultimate decide or hair. Okay, so just be prepared.

1198
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 2: But you are the conduit. I'm I'm a conduit of

1199
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 2: many spirits. Ok let's be honest. Okay, Okay, So number

1200
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 2: one this is uh these are all listeners suggestions. This

1201
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 2: first one is from Shane, and Shane has suggested gift

1202
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 2: or a curse mister Peanut.

1203
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 3: Gift, I mean one hundred percent mister Peanut. Like the

1204
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 3: logo for plants, right, Harry Peanut. He's in a fucking

1205
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 3: top hat and spats, He's fucking dancing around. I mean, like,

1206
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but if you are even considering the idea

1207
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 3: that mister Peanut is a curse, that is so that

1208
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 3: is so so fucked up, and I can I and like,

1209
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 3: I will call this out. I have a friend who

1210
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 3: was in the Planter's Super Bowl commercial where mister Peanut

1211
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 3: died and then he was like reborn as a baby Peanut,

1212
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 3: And I ultimately don't think that it worked, you know

1213
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 3: what I mean, like as the bandoned Wesley Snipes was

1214
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 3: in it too. I don't remember Wesley snipesping And yeah,

1215
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 3: but so I'm not trying to be like I'm not

1216
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:30,920
Speaker 3: even if my friend was not somehow involved with that company.

1217
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 3: Fuck you. If you're like mister Peanut, that's a curse.

1218
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 3: Who wants to live that? In word, this is a

1219
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 3: great thing.

1220
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 2: Tim Fuck me, it's a curse. No, I think shit,

1221
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 2: look not true. Listen, listen. I mister Peanut as a presence.

1222
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 2: I loved, I trusted, I adored up until the super

1223
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 2: Bowl commercial. Then I saw mister Peanut for what it

1224
00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 2: really was. What is it attention starved and to do

1225
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 2: whatever it took to get the spotlight the whole death thing.

1226
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 2: I had to leave. I had to say, I'm sorry,

1227
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 2: mister Peanut. There are other mascots that I can deal with.

1228
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 3: I look, your individual criticisms of that one campaign are

1229
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 3: certainly warranted and welcome.

1230
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 2: Mister Peanut was on board.

1231
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 3: But mister Peanut, he's been around for like one hundred years.

1232
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 3: You gotta mix shit up. Like, I'm not a big

1233
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 3: comic book guy, but like you know, there are like

1234
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 3: a million different Spider Man things that I'm sure not

1235
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 3: every Spider Man, you know, even Spider Man fans will

1236
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 3: be like, well, there was this one period of time

1237
00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 3: in like the nineteen eighties where a storyline kind of

1238
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,640
Speaker 3: like you know, Mary Jane wasn't Cannon or whatever the fuck,

1239
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 3: but like we just deal with that because the larger

1240
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 3: thing is important to have. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I

1241
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 3: was on board with mister Peanut until that big stunt

1242
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 3: and then you know, if you want to experiment, maybe

1243
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 3: make him even classier, that would have been how I

1244
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 3: would have targeted that can pain mister Peanut. There's a

1245
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:04,439
Speaker 3: big change for mister Peanut. He has even more manners.

1246
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 2: That I think that would have gotten people on board,

1247
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 2: and instead they did this big flashy thing and tried

1248
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 2: to fool all of us, And now is a curse you.

1249
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 3: Okay. I want to ask a question. Are we talking

1250
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 3: about these things in a good like like and I

1251
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 3: basically like, are we talking about this in like a

1252
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 3: global and universal from a global and universal standpoint? Or

1253
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 3: are we talking about like a momentary this could? Is this?

1254
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 3: Is this flexible?

1255
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 1: Is this?

1256
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 2: What do you? What?

1257
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 3: Is this fluid?

1258
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 2: And it's absolutely not fluid. This has been written in

1259
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 2: the book.

1260
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 3: An Insane Insane Person.

1261
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 2: Well, the rest of time will tell I mean you

1262
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:55,880
Speaker 2: and I will pass into dust. But this statement will

1263
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 2: carry through the centuries about mister Peanut, and we'll let

1264
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 2: future future generations decide who was right and who was wrong.

1265
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 3: I feel like it's not going to take future generations,

1266
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 3: like by the end of the parking Lot people are

1267
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:09,479
Speaker 3: gonna be like, yeah, no, no, he's great.

1268
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 2: The listener agrees with me. Put is a curse.

1269
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 3: Real quick, and I know this is your show and

1270
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 3: I don't want to interrupt the game. I can't remember

1271
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 3: who said this, but it comes up and I think

1272
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 3: about it a lot when somebody talks about how brilliant

1273
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 3: Fraser was was because the foil for Fraser was not

1274
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 3: somebody sort of slovenly. They found someone who was more

1275
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 3: Frasier than Frasier, right, So ye kind of you are. Honestly,

1276
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 3: that's probably why you're I'm not saying I agree with you,

1277
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 3: but that is probably why your version would have been

1278
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 3: very successful, because nobody would have seen it coming. Thank you.

1279
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 3: You would have found a classier mister Peanut, and you

1280
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 3: would have that would have been the foil.

1281
01:01:55,880 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 2: Right. Imagine Professor Almond shows up and suddenly the country

1282
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 2: would have gone crazy. The Peanut fortunes would have gone

1283
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 2: through the roof.

1284
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 3: Oh my god, the little dog comes in wearing a

1285
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 3: monocle two and you're like, I'm going to scream with happiness.

1286
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 2: I mean, and speaking of Fraser, neither Fraser nor Niles

1287
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 2: would have ever faked their death. There would have never

1288
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 2: been a big, splashy Super Bowl ad.

1289
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 3: Well, I think he did die. Wait he did?

1290
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 2: I think he actually did die. Well, this feels and I.

1291
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 3: Feel like, I mean, I don't know if it was

1292
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 3: like from the from like the loam of his body

1293
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 3: was born a new peanut, but like, yeah, no, not

1294
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 3: like I don't remember that happening in Fraser. When you

1295
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 3: said fakes on death, I was like, fully fun, did

1296
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 3: the dad fake us on death? Not John Mahoney, Chicago

1297
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 3: guy Steppenwolf.

1298
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 2: Oh that's right, excellent, I mean excellent actors across the

1299
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 2: board on that show. Miss Peanut died.

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01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:04,480
Speaker 3: It was reborn, but I don't know if it was

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01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 3: the same mister Peanut but just a baby, or if

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01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 3: it was just a baby mister Peanut.

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01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 2: Oh interesting, Okay, okay, But everyone was so mad about

1304
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 2: it that the company was like, we can't get further

1305
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 2: into this. Let's just cut our losses. And go I interrupted,

1306
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 2: but for a good reason. Now, Catherine, Catherine wants to

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01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 2: know gift or a curse QR codes as menus at restaurants.

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01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 3: I can't be more serious about this. Okay, If you

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01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 3: thought I was serious about mister peanut, and I am

1310
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 3: going to you, guys don't know me very well. I

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01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 3: was one hundred percent serious with what I said about mister.

1312
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 3: If there is a if it is possible to be

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01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 3: more than one hundred percent serious about something, QR codes

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01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 3: on menus at restaurants are a fucking nightmare, and they

1315
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 3: need to go away immediately immediately. It's like we we know, like,

1316
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 3: let's let's not even talk about the COVID part of it,

1317
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 3: even that part of it where it's like nobody's getting

1318
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:10,919
Speaker 3: COVID because we fucking touched the same menu. I understand

1319
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 3: that printering is more valuable than gold, but just print

1320
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 3: your fucking menus, do not put us on our phones.

1321
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 3: More that it's a curse you are could.

1322
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 2: Not be more correct about Oh god, I mean, there's

1323
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 2: no arguing with the QR codes. It feels like it's

1324
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 2: basically stone age science at this point, or talking about

1325
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 2: things we were thinking about COVID in March of twenty twenty. Yes,

1326
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 2: it's not helping anyone. It's not saving anybody. The only

1327
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 2: thing it's keeping us on our phone. The one time

1328
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 2: that you shouldn't be on your phone is when you're

1329
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:49,919
Speaker 2: out to dinner with somebody, and it's giving us another

1330
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 2: excuse to stare at the phone.

1331
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 3: We got two years off from seeing people, and the

1332
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 3: moment we could go back to it, we were like,

1333
01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 3: let's look on our phones with them in the room.

1334
01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 3: What a fucking horrible.

1335
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 2: But just even on a like a basic level, the

1336
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 2: what if you don't have service, it's just a pain.

1337
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:12,560
Speaker 2: It's an annoying thing. You're you're trying to load the

1338
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 2: website half the time, the menu is like barely there.

1339
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 3: You're scrolling way more than.

1340
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 1: You need to.

1341
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 3: There's always the sub menu.

1342
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 2: Oh I hate the sub menu, and then like you're

1343
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 2: going through fifty drinks before you even get to the appetizer. Yes,

1344
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 2: it's they're also being made by people who don't do websites,

1345
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:30,720
Speaker 2: so it's just horrible garbage.

1346
01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 3: Every once in a while, it's like a PDF that

1347
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 3: you're pitching to zoom on. I can't do it, and

1348
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 3: I love to hold a menu. Oh, I love it.

1349
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 2: I love to have a menu in my hands. I

1350
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 2: get to brows.

1351
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 3: You know what it's like. It's like how we mark,

1352
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 3: how we age by. Like you know, I'm just fully, like,

1353
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 3: you know, reading over a menu and then every once

1354
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 3: in a while, I'll just read the description out loud.

1355
01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 3: You know what. Nobody asks, But I'm like, you know

1356
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 3: what I mean, lardons, You know what I mean? Yeah,

1357
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:02,000
Speaker 3: I mean you're not that yet though. Oh I'm in

1358
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 3: the same egean. I feel like we're like menu generation

1359
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 3: generation Okay, you sure you have a youthful s if.

1360
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like the only people who are

1361
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 2: not Generation Menu are people who are born in the

1362
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 2: last ten years. Yeah, everybody else knows and loves a

1363
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 2: menu and it feels anti science to me. Ultimately, it's

1364
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 2: anti science. Where are you from original Utah? You're from Utah.

1365
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 2: I'm from Utah.

1366
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 3: What part of Utah?

1367
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 2: Right outside of Salt Lake City? Why are you so surprised?

1368
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:31,440
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1369
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 2: I mean, you don't give me like a big Utah interest.

1370
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:38,680
Speaker 2: I mean, like, I mean, I think that's Utah has

1371
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 2: its benefits and it's absolute garbage.

1372
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 3: I feel like, again, this is reductive and prejudice, and

1373
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 3: I want you to correct me. I might be on

1374
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 3: the same boat, the same boat. Yeah, we'll be on

1375
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:55,440
Speaker 3: that same boat boat. Which is definitely the phrase that

1376
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:58,160
Speaker 3: people say when they are on the same page about something,

1377
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 3: so that it's either immensely outdoor people campers, right or

1378
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:10,439
Speaker 3: the other. Yeah.

1379
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 2: There there are all kinds of people on youtub obviously,

1380
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 2: but a lot of the men I grew up with

1381
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 2: were obviously very outdoorsy man's man that sort of thing.

1382
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:21,760
Speaker 2: Uh So maybe, yeah, I probably don't fall into that camp.

1383
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 3: You don't give off a vibe that you're like, I'm

1384
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 3: gonna go like super like I'm you're not like hiking

1385
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:31,440
Speaker 3: the Appalachian traip you know what I mean, Like that

1386
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:33,439
Speaker 3: sort of like pack it in, pack it out vibe.

1387
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 2: So basically, what, just to be clear, what you're saying

1388
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 2: is everyone from Utah is outdoor trash and I am

1389
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 2: not capable of hiking. So these are the two things

1390
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 2: that I don't have the strength or wherewithal to even

1391
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 2: put on a pair of hiking boots. That's just to

1392
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 2: be completely you're saying everyone in Utah worth less than garbage.

1393
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 3: Can I ask you a question. Yes, can we somehow

1394
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 3: forget the last five minutes of our experience to get

1395
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 3: absolutely not just replacething in your memory that I've said

1396
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:02,200
Speaker 3: was something better?

1397
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:05,920
Speaker 2: No, you are very clear, Tim, You're very clear. I

1398
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 2: wouldn't last a second in the great outdoors, and everyone

1399
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 2: from Utah should be buried.

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01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 3: I have met people who have gone to Tom Jones's

1401
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 3: week long outdoor survival camps, and I'm just saying that

1402
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 3: it doesn't seem yet like you have gone to one

1403
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 3: of Tom jones this week long outdoor survival camps. But again,

1404
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:32,360
Speaker 3: this never happened. We never had this conversation.

1405
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 2: Okay, so Utah's burn them all. Me weaker than a worm, Okay,

1406
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 2: moving on. Okay, you've gotten one out of two so far.

1407
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 2: You've got one final thing to get us sixty six

1408
01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 2: percent if you get this correct. Listener Sarah Jane wrote

1409
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 2: in suggestion gift her a curse T shirt cheats, gift

1410
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:53,799
Speaker 2: he a curse T shirt cheats.

1411
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 3: I think I'm going to be biased on this, okay,

1412
01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 3: because I don't know if I give a shit about

1413
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:05,560
Speaker 3: sheets T shirt sheets. I feel like I think I

1414
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 3: have slept on them. I think I maybe even currently

1415
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 3: am I think I have some at the house. I

1416
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 3: think that they are fine, okay, And so I would

1417
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:21,640
Speaker 3: say a gift, I mean, like, okay, a gift or

1418
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 3: a curse. If we are just going to look at

1419
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 3: those two, we've got that binary. I would say it

1420
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:29,360
Speaker 3: would be too much to call them a curse, okay,

1421
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 3: because that is immensely negative and says that the But like,

1422
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:36,960
Speaker 3: if it's something's a gift. A gift can be an

1423
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 3: eight or a gift can be a chewed up dog

1424
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 3: toy and it's still a gift.

1425
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 2: That's a nice way of looking at it. So it

1426
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 2: feels like a lot of justifying rationalizing the.

1427
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:50,400
Speaker 3: Fact that I'm calling them a gift. What you've already

1428
01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 3: said makes me think that.

1429
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:56,160
Speaker 2: Are you ready for your final total? Yes, they're a curse,

1430
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 2: and this is why I think it's a bunch of ball.

1431
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 2: And it's actually I'll say, a T shirt sheet is confusing.

1432
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:05,200
Speaker 2: I don't know what it's supposed to mean, supposed to

1433
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 2: mean it's more comfortable than a regular sheet, or because

1434
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:11,759
Speaker 2: a T shirt there are so many types of T shirts.

1435
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:14,640
Speaker 2: First of all, some T shirts are deeply uncomfortable. Some

1436
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 2: are extremely soft. Some are fine. There's a rainbow of

1437
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 2: one hundred percent cotton that when I try to think

1438
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 2: of that as a bed sheet, I spin out in

1439
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 2: a way. I'm standing in the islet target. I'm like,

1440
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 2: I don't know if this is supposed to be good

1441
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:32,679
Speaker 2: or bad. Yeah, And ultimately I moved to the regular sheets.

1442
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 3: So there's the top end of good, which is like, oh,

1443
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:38,120
Speaker 3: this is like that shirt that you've had forever and

1444
01:10:38,200 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 3: now you're sleeping in that, right. But then there's the

1445
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:44,160
Speaker 3: low end, which is the T shirt that my friend

1446
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 3: bought and his wife saw it and was like, I

1447
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:48,960
Speaker 3: can see your nipples and they were already out in public.

1448
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 3: She was really mad when she said it, and so

1449
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:53,439
Speaker 3: it like really shamed him because he just thought he

1450
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:54,439
Speaker 3: was wearing a shirt.

1451
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:56,320
Speaker 2: That wasn't very nice. She should have waited till later.

1452
01:10:56,520 --> 01:11:00,760
Speaker 3: It really wasn't very nice. So that's the low That does.

1453
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:02,640
Speaker 2: Sound like a comfortable shirt if your nipples are just

1454
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 2: flying through it, it's got to be.

1455
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:05,719
Speaker 3: So that's the thing. I feel like, that's a razor

1456
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 3: thin margin right, like just on the edge of that right,

1457
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 3: it's I mean, that's living or dying, you know what.

1458
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:16,400
Speaker 3: I mean and like, because if you're just on the

1459
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 3: edge of being able to see your nipples, then then

1460
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:22,360
Speaker 3: it's a very comfortable shirt. What's your favorite what's your

1461
01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 3: favorite T shirt? I've got a bunch of favorite T shirts.

1462
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:27,639
Speaker 2: I will say I've got I have a T shirt

1463
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 2: that I bought with money I was given on this

1464
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 2: podcast that says has uh it's somebody just gave me.

1465
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:35,439
Speaker 2: Someone give me twenty dollars. It was incredible. The comedian

1466
01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:38,880
Speaker 2: Chris Estrada was like, best gift in the world, twenty dollars,

1467
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:41,800
Speaker 2: and it was kind of right. I mean, that's pretty good. Okay,

1468
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:43,760
Speaker 2: So I went online. I was like, I've got twenty

1469
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 2: dollars that has to be spent on something i'll enjoy.

1470
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:49,360
Speaker 2: I found a vintage T shirt with a picture of

1471
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:51,600
Speaker 2: teeth with braces on it. It says brace yourself for

1472
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:54,519
Speaker 2: a smile. Great, it's so soft. If it's so well,

1473
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:57,720
Speaker 2: if if sheets were made out of that, it was

1474
01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:00,960
Speaker 2: probably made in nineteen eighty three. The cotton is now

1475
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:06,160
Speaker 2: as soft as possible. If sheet manufacturer said nineteen eighty

1476
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 2: two T shirt sheets, I'd be on board with it.

1477
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 2: But yeah, T shirt sheets, curse you got one out

1478
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 2: of three does the episode get released? If I don't

1479
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 2: get to we will heavily cut around. Well, you know,

1480
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:24,640
Speaker 2: sweetening happens. You know, I mentioned editing earlier, and I

1481
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 2: was lying when I said very little happens. Actually, we

1482
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:31,679
Speaker 2: basically send it to Lucas Film. Their audio division takes

1483
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:35,599
Speaker 2: care of things for Wow, So you're gonna look horrible

1484
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 2: and I'll look even better than I already do, and

1485
01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:41,599
Speaker 2: just raw audio. I'm an A plus right now. So God,

1486
01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:44,720
Speaker 2: this thing's gonna be. It's gonna be solid gold, at

1487
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:47,280
Speaker 2: least as far as from where I'm standing.

1488
01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:50,839
Speaker 3: What do you think our chances are? Download numberswise, download

1489
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 3: numbers for you? I mean, look and look, this is

1490
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 3: a This is a place where you can be honest

1491
01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:57,800
Speaker 3: about who I am. There are going to be some

1492
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:00,600
Speaker 3: people are like, oh hey, great, but like it's not

1493
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:04,800
Speaker 3: like I don't know Harrison Ford is he looks Harrison Ford.

1494
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:08,280
Speaker 2: Let's say, let's say Harrison Ford and Harrison the invitation's open. Yeah,

1495
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:11,680
Speaker 2: you're always welcome. Harrison Ford. You're gonna be looking at

1496
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 2: probably a five million download with your performance today.

1497
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:16,479
Speaker 3: Huh.

1498
01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:19,719
Speaker 2: I'm going to say we're looking at fourteen listeners.

1499
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 3: Fourteen.

1500
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:22,439
Speaker 2: I mean, how many people are in your family?

1501
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 3: Well, that would doubt I guess around fourteen. That would doubt.

1502
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:28,920
Speaker 3: More aren't tired of you, but that aren't tired of me? Right.

1503
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:30,760
Speaker 3: Do you want to know a wonderful thing that my

1504
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:34,160
Speaker 3: mom said to me recently? What she said, Tim, is

1505
01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:38,760
Speaker 3: a really wonderful thing that we've all lived long enough

1506
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:40,880
Speaker 3: for you to become part of the solution and not

1507
01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 3: part of the problem.

1508
01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 2: There was probably a period when they were like, Tim's

1509
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:47,400
Speaker 2: going to be a part of the problem.

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Speaker 3: There was definitely not gonna be part of the problem

1511
01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 3: where I was actively a part of the problem. And

1512
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 3: I think it was really nice for my mom and

1513
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:59,679
Speaker 3: I to have that moment. And my mom is incredibly funny,

1514
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 3: and that is incredible. It was great. But now my

1515
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:05,439
Speaker 3: mom will one, well.

1516
01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:08,639
Speaker 2: She better, she better become a dedicated listener. She will, mom,

1517
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:12,240
Speaker 2: And now I'm talking to well, my mom listens to

1518
01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 2: probably every eighth episode. But your mom, I'm talking to

1519
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:18,719
Speaker 2: Tim's mom. You're a dedicated listener.

1520
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:19,320
Speaker 3: Now there's no.

1521
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 2: Escaping She'll she couldn't take that to heart. Harrison Ford

1522
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:25,840
Speaker 2: might be a future I guest. We just opened the

1523
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:28,800
Speaker 2: invitations so just be prepared for that. Tim We have

1524
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:32,040
Speaker 2: to answer one one question, one listener question. This is

1525
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:34,760
Speaker 2: called I said no emails people right into I said

1526
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:37,679
Speaker 2: no gifts at gmail dot com. I've said up four

1527
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:40,479
Speaker 2: and I'll say it again. They're desperate, they need help.

1528
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:44,800
Speaker 3: Please don't send gifts at gmail dot com dot biz.

1529
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:46,639
Speaker 2: Will you hope me answer a listener question?

1530
01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:47,880
Speaker 3: Let me read this.

1531
01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:52,599
Speaker 2: It says, dear Bridger and distinguished guest, which is very nice.

1532
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 3: Kind of a mister peanut vibe. Yeah, you have got it.

1533
01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 2: You are bringing the pre Super Bowl mister penat energy

1534
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:01,040
Speaker 2: that we all fell in love with and then we're

1535
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:05,160
Speaker 2: ultimately betrayed by. I'm hoping you can help me with

1536
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 2: a farewell gift for my daughter's daycare teachers. As she

1537
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:11,680
Speaker 2: moves to the next classroom for context, this classroom has

1538
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:15,040
Speaker 2: two teachers who care for eight toddlers around eighteen months old.

1539
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 3: That's a lot of kids.

1540
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:19,960
Speaker 2: My kid has picked one as her favorite, and then

1541
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:22,960
Speaker 2: in parentheses hereafter the favorite, and she clings to this

1542
01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:25,559
Speaker 2: teacher in a way that can get extreme. She cries

1543
01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 2: when the favorite holds another kid and gets so upset

1544
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:32,320
Speaker 2: that she has accidentally thrown up before the favorite entertains

1545
01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:36,400
Speaker 2: this behavior. Ooh, holding my daughter when she demands and

1546
01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:40,439
Speaker 2: even styles her hair. Both teachers have obviously played a

1547
01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 2: critical role in keeping my child alive and well, but

1548
01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:45,760
Speaker 2: I also want to recognize the special bond that she

1549
01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:48,320
Speaker 2: has with the favorite. Is it weird to give the

1550
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 2: teachers different gifts or would it be more weird not

1551
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 2: to when the distinct preference is really no secret? Teacher

1552
01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:57,040
Speaker 2: gifts usually take the form of gift cards, but it

1553
01:15:57,080 --> 01:16:01,160
Speaker 2: seems like branching out might be appropriate here. Any insights

1554
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 2: you might have And that's from eb uh, that's a

1555
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:07,080
Speaker 2: great question. Well, sounds like some sort of hypnotism has

1556
01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:09,880
Speaker 2: happened while mom has been away. The favorite has got

1557
01:16:09,920 --> 01:16:10,880
Speaker 2: a hold over this child.

1558
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:12,639
Speaker 3: You ever do we know the age of the child?

1559
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:15,200
Speaker 2: Wait for eighteen months old? Toddler ish?

1560
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 3: Toddler ish? Okay, So you ever see that movie Sleeping

1561
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 3: with the Enemy. Not Sleeping with the Enemy, No, the

1562
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 3: hand that Rocks the Cradle?

1563
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:25,519
Speaker 2: No? And I feel like I would love that movie.

1564
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:28,400
Speaker 2: That title still scares me. Oh yeah, Rebecca to Morning

1565
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 2: and what happens in it? Well, I think she gets hired.

1566
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:35,360
Speaker 3: As a nanny to like a sort of rich family

1567
01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 3: and then kind of takes the child bond as her

1568
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 3: own that's a distortion, and starts breastfeeding child.

1569
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:42,240
Speaker 2: Like.

1570
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 3: That's a big moment in the movie where like you

1571
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:47,719
Speaker 3: see Rebecca to morning like starting to breastfeed the child herself,

1572
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 3: and knowing what I know now, it actually makes me

1573
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 3: want to revisit it because I don't because like lactation

1574
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:57,080
Speaker 3: is not just something you just turn on and off. Yeah,

1575
01:16:57,080 --> 01:16:58,800
Speaker 3: you don't just turn that on and off. So either

1576
01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:02,559
Speaker 3: there's med occasional ball or maybe she has lost a baby.

1577
01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:06,400
Speaker 3: Maybe that's like the motivation behind it. So anyway, I

1578
01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 3: don't I'm gonna have to get into the wiki on that.

1579
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 3: So that's definitely let's just agree.

1580
01:17:14,479 --> 01:17:17,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's say, definitely happen baseline, what's happening.

1581
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 3: So you're definitely gonna want to have some sort of

1582
01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:27,360
Speaker 3: like skin lotion just for chapping around around the aerolas.

1583
01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 2: So you're saying that for this woman who has been

1584
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:32,400
Speaker 2: illegally breastfeeding the toddler.

1585
01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:37,479
Speaker 3: Yes, that's just one little thing that So here's I

1586
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:40,760
Speaker 3: think my serious answer on top of that, which I

1587
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:44,840
Speaker 3: am serious about, would be that I think you should

1588
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:49,600
Speaker 3: I a lot of teachers in my family, definitely the

1589
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:54,120
Speaker 3: gift card. Gift card definitely like just just a raw

1590
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:57,640
Speaker 3: gift card because they have to spend a lot of

1591
01:17:57,680 --> 01:17:59,560
Speaker 3: their own money on stuff for the classroom. That just

1592
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:02,479
Speaker 3: so like, don't say like, oh it's for this or whatever.

1593
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:05,040
Speaker 3: Just like, here is money. That's the first thing you

1594
01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:09,560
Speaker 3: should do. Then get something kind of nice whatever, a

1595
01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:13,160
Speaker 3: nice chocolate thing that's not it doesn't have to be expensive.

1596
01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:15,479
Speaker 3: It's just like, here is money. And then here's a

1597
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:18,800
Speaker 3: little bit of joy, just a tiny bit of joy, right,

1598
01:18:18,920 --> 01:18:20,920
Speaker 3: that is not the main focus. And then I think

1599
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:24,760
Speaker 3: when it comes to the special teacher, it's okay to

1600
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:27,920
Speaker 3: have them like draw a picture that says I love you,

1601
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:29,559
Speaker 3: something like that that.

1602
01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:32,639
Speaker 2: I throw up when you're not around.

1603
01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:36,479
Speaker 3: Yes, And I think that's how you do it because

1604
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:38,879
Speaker 3: you don't want to make that other teacher feel excluded,

1605
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:42,200
Speaker 3: because yes, there was that special connection, but you don't

1606
01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:45,240
Speaker 3: want it. You don't. I also feel weird about maybe

1607
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:48,439
Speaker 3: implanting in this kid that you like, you don't want

1608
01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:51,439
Speaker 3: to have the kids say you're so much more special

1609
01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:54,400
Speaker 3: to me than this. You just want them to say

1610
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 3: you're very special to me. I give cards to people

1611
01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:02,760
Speaker 3: around the Huh, but I don't give a card to everybody, right,

1612
01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:05,280
Speaker 3: there's a certain expectation that not everybody's going to get

1613
01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:08,599
Speaker 3: a card, a little drawing from the kids, something special,

1614
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:11,639
Speaker 3: just for that person to add on to the other

1615
01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 3: two gifts that are the same.

1616
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:16,519
Speaker 2: Okay, that's very nice. Now counterpoint, Oh wow, you get

1617
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 2: the less special teacher fired. Look, this other person has

1618
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:22,800
Speaker 2: gone above and beyond to win your daughter's heart. She's

1619
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 2: combing her hair like wrote or whatever to get those

1620
01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 2: lactation meds. I think this other teacher gets the boot.

1621
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:32,840
Speaker 2: I mean, you write an anonymous email, maybe from several

1622
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:36,880
Speaker 2: different accounts, to the school principle or whoever this teachers

1623
01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:39,479
Speaker 2: a problem, and then you of course write one from yourself.

1624
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:42,880
Speaker 2: Just make sure this other teacher is out of there,

1625
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:45,840
Speaker 2: and then that teacher won't be around when you give this.

1626
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:48,719
Speaker 2: You shower this other teacher with gifts and there won't

1627
01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:49,280
Speaker 2: be a problem.

1628
01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:55,960
Speaker 3: So are you suggesting in this circumstance that in the

1629
01:19:56,080 --> 01:20:00,480
Speaker 3: email that the mother is sending to the administrators.

1630
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:02,639
Speaker 2: Of the school or whatever from her main account, from

1631
01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 2: her and from her main account, not one of the

1632
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 2: several fake accounts she set up to also send yes.

1633
01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:10,960
Speaker 3: Yes from the Maine account. I am having a problem

1634
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 3: because my child is and I'm talking about not this

1635
01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:18,400
Speaker 3: is the non favorite teacher. You accuse the non favorite

1636
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 3: teacher as being the one who is breastfeeding. Oh so yeah,

1637
01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:25,759
Speaker 3: that teacher says, what are you talking about? That's insane.

1638
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:32,400
Speaker 3: That's the teacher who's gonna believe that that is brilliant.

1639
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:34,720
Speaker 2: See, this is why we have to talk through the

1640
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:38,360
Speaker 2: ideas together. And then we've gotten rid of this kind

1641
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:41,280
Speaker 2: of mediocre teacher, this kind of this other teacher who

1642
01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:44,160
Speaker 2: is hypnotizing children gets to keep her job, and she

1643
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:47,840
Speaker 2: obviously loves doing it, and she's kind of this you know,

1644
01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 2: guru type mysterious and.

1645
01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:54,640
Speaker 3: Uh holds a certain power. She gets to hold on

1646
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:54,920
Speaker 3: to that.

1647
01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:58,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this other teacher gets to go find another career.

1648
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:02,160
Speaker 3: Because you are right if you're not willing to make

1649
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 3: the kind of sacrifices that this I mean, like she's

1650
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:09,000
Speaker 3: putting her body at risk. It's really not. I mean

1651
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 3: like if you had like a clog duck, Like that's no,

1652
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:15,880
Speaker 3: that sucks, that sucks. She's really going out of her way.

1653
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:19,639
Speaker 3: You have to pump when the kids aren't around because

1654
01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:22,080
Speaker 3: it just gets to be painful. You got to store it.

1655
01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 3: You know, you're sacrificing freezer storage.

1656
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:28,280
Speaker 2: Right, she's probably looking up lessons online and just because

1657
01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:30,880
Speaker 2: she's obviously this is just for the kids she's teaching,

1658
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:32,479
Speaker 2: she's got to figure out how to do it herself.

1659
01:21:32,800 --> 01:21:35,280
Speaker 3: I mean, we live in a fucking crazy world, night nurses.

1660
01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:38,960
Speaker 3: There are lactation consultants, Oh, there certainly are.

1661
01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:43,519
Speaker 2: So this person's probably paying for lactation consultant lessons. Again,

1662
01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:47,240
Speaker 2: as you mentioned, the gift card will go to paying

1663
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:49,280
Speaker 2: for things because she was paying for these lessons. Yes,

1664
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:52,600
Speaker 2: I think it's a perfect gift. Yeah, I think so,

1665
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:55,360
Speaker 2: And I think we've saw it. We've saved three lives today,

1666
01:21:56,240 --> 01:22:00,799
Speaker 2: and then also all those other kids at that daycare,

1667
01:22:00,920 --> 01:22:03,200
Speaker 2: we've saved all their lives too. Absolutely, I mean we

1668
01:22:03,439 --> 01:22:06,720
Speaker 2: are this is a charity service. Ultimately, this podcast is

1669
01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:09,360
Speaker 2: a charity service. This right here, Think about all the

1670
01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:12,599
Speaker 2: lives that we've affected. We are the butterfly that flaps

1671
01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:13,160
Speaker 2: its wings.

1672
01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:17,680
Speaker 3: This is the butterfly effect. This is the beginning of

1673
01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:22,040
Speaker 3: the butterfly effect. You heard it. It will echo through time. Tim.

1674
01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:25,200
Speaker 2: I've had such a wonderful time with you. This has

1675
01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:27,679
Speaker 2: been so great that I now have this terrific gift

1676
01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:31,160
Speaker 2: that's actually useful in my life. And thank you for

1677
01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:31,599
Speaker 2: being here.

1678
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 3: It's from my absolute pleasure. Now.

1679
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:39,840
Speaker 2: Fourteen listeners, including Tim's mom. The episode's over, So you've

1680
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:41,920
Speaker 2: got to go find something else to do. You've got

1681
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:45,280
Speaker 2: to be productive or maybe not, maybe lays around on

1682
01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:45,960
Speaker 2: the couch all day.

1683
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:46,439
Speaker 3: I don't care.

1684
01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:53,160
Speaker 2: Do whatever you want. I love you, goodbye, I said,

1685
01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:56,439
Speaker 2: No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's produced by

1686
01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:59,800
Speaker 2: our dear friend Analise Nelson, and it's beautifully mixed by

1687
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:03,080
Speaker 2: On Bradley, and we couldn't do it without our guest booker,

1688
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:07,519
Speaker 2: Patrick Kottmer. The theme song, of course, could only come

1689
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:11,599
Speaker 2: from miracle worker Amy Man. You must follow the show

1690
01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:14,240
Speaker 2: on Instagram at I said no gifts. I don't want

1691
01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:16,479
Speaker 2: to hear any excuses. That's where you get to see

1692
01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:19,000
Speaker 2: pictures of all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting. And don't

1693
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:20,320
Speaker 2: you want to see pictures of the gifts?

1694
01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:24,599
Speaker 3: The line why did you hear?

1695
01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:32,400
Speaker 1: Gonta man myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest to me,

1696
01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:40,680
Speaker 1: you gotta come to me empty, And I said, no

1697
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:48,439
Speaker 1: guests your presences presence enough, and I'm already too much stuff.

1698
01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:52,320
Speaker 1: So how do you dare to surbey me?