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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, and Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks and this

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Speaker 1: is Baker Mayfield three sixty. First things, First of most

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Speaker 1: accurate quarterback in this draft by far Heyfield Mayfield perfect

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Speaker 1: so far unbelievable quarterback hasn't missed. Yeah, I'm ready from

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Speaker 1: they want to be a franchise guy. The energy I bring,

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Speaker 1: the passion I bring, it's it's infectious. Under pressure is

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Speaker 1: something I'll thrive on. And the thing I love most

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Speaker 1: of puts the points by Baker Mayfield. I love the game,

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Speaker 1: but I want to be the best ever played. All Right, Buck,

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Speaker 1: I'm excited about this one. The Baker Mayfield three sixty

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Speaker 1: podcast series, This is gonna be a fun one. Get

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Speaker 1: a chance to uh to break down Baker Mayfield's game,

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Speaker 1: talk about his potential at the next level, find some

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Speaker 1: NFL fits, and Buck. We got some great interviews coming

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Speaker 1: up as well. Yeah, we interview some of the people

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Speaker 1: who know him best, including his high school coach Hank Quarter,

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Speaker 1: with w w E legend Jim Ross, who is a

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Speaker 1: you guys are gonna love the Jim Ross interview on

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Speaker 1: this podcast. Trust me. Why are we interviewing Jim Ross

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Speaker 1: about a football player? Trust me? Wait and see. But

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Speaker 1: but before we get there, why don't we do our

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Speaker 1: our own breakdown here of Mr Mayfield and when you

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Speaker 1: watched him? Seen him a lot over the last few years.

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Speaker 1: I think with Baker Mayfield, we've seen plenty. We have

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Speaker 1: seen plenty. We've seen a guy who has been a

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Speaker 1: dominant player two different locations, at Texas Tech then at Oklahoma.

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Speaker 1: He's been a guy that's played at a high level

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Speaker 1: and all star level as a collegian. And the things

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Speaker 1: that come to mind when I watch Baker Mayfield feisty, gritty, tough,

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Speaker 1: Everything's quick in the pocket, quick feed, He's got night

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Speaker 1: I mean I remember telling you about it, getting a

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Speaker 1: bit is, Okay, this offense is beautifully designed and they

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Speaker 1: What are the comparisons College Drew Brees versus College Baker Mayfield.

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Speaker 1: I think the big thing, Um, Drew Brees threw it

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Speaker 1: His ability to process. That's something that Baker Mayfield, I

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Speaker 1: you we've been blessed here. We we have amazing kids.

429
00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:38,800
Speaker 1: It's um uh, you know, I tell people all the time,

430
00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:40,040
Speaker 1: I have the best job in the world I got.

431
00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:41,600
Speaker 1: I get a chance to coach football and work with

432
00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,320
Speaker 1: young people like Travis, and our parents have done a

433
00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,680
Speaker 1: great job of said kids on a path for success.

434
00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:48,640
Speaker 1: But you know, that's what we look for. We want

435
00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,200
Speaker 1: kids are gonna be great with people, because that's we're

436
00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,080
Speaker 1: in the people business. No matter what you're in, unless

437
00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,520
Speaker 1: unless you're a computer programmer or something like that in

438
00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:57,800
Speaker 1: a cubicle, you're in the people business one way or another.

439
00:18:57,960 --> 00:18:59,680
Speaker 1: And so we want our guys to be able to

440
00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:01,880
Speaker 1: to their teammates, to be able to push them. Um.

441
00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:03,320
Speaker 1: You know at the end of the day too, I

442
00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,240
Speaker 1: think when you're lickable and um you do make mistakes,

443
00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,640
Speaker 1: people forgive you easier. I use this example all the time.

444
00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,000
Speaker 1: The doctors that that their patients like them, they don't

445
00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,440
Speaker 1: get suit is often form our practice. Whether they're better doctor,

446
00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,800
Speaker 1: so being lackable matters. But yeah, those things that are

447
00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,000
Speaker 1: what we we try to look for, um and and

448
00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:20,719
Speaker 1: try to get our guys to understand and to get

449
00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:22,879
Speaker 1: better at coach. One thing that I always look for

450
00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,480
Speaker 1: when the quarterback is how do they perform under pressure?

451
00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,399
Speaker 1: How how do they play when the game is in

452
00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:31,560
Speaker 1: a clutch situation. Based on your experience with Baker, how

453
00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,200
Speaker 1: does he handled clutch situations for you since he was

454
00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,919
Speaker 1: in high school? Well, you know, he had some opportunities

455
00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:39,920
Speaker 1: in high school to where um, you know, it was

456
00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:41,560
Speaker 1: kind of put up or shut up. The first game

457
00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,320
Speaker 1: he had ever played. Um, you know as our varsity

458
00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,119
Speaker 1: quarterback was against our arrival. Uh, it was over at

459
00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:51,000
Speaker 1: Darryl Kay Royal Texas Memorial Stadium, and he came in

460
00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,760
Speaker 1: and he was probably nervous. You wouldn't have known it.

461
00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:55,960
Speaker 1: He had one of the best games of the quarterback

462
00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:57,919
Speaker 1: that we had ever had in kind of the biggest

463
00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,119
Speaker 1: stage at that point in his career. And so um,

464
00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:01,760
Speaker 1: he doesn't blink. You know, That's that's the one thing

465
00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,720
Speaker 1: about him. He's confident in his ability. He's confident in

466
00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:06,719
Speaker 1: the ability for him to get the people around him

467
00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:08,639
Speaker 1: to play at a higher level. And so um, he

468
00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,240
Speaker 1: every situation and he goes into he feels like he's

469
00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,000
Speaker 1: gonna be able to get it done. And then you

470
00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:14,800
Speaker 1: know that same year, you know we were we were

471
00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,159
Speaker 1: fifteen and no going to the state championship game and

472
00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,400
Speaker 1: he played probably the best football game of his career,

473
00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,560
Speaker 1: you know, on the biggest stage that there was. And

474
00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:25,080
Speaker 1: so um, I think that again, you never know how

475
00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,000
Speaker 1: guy's gonna react if he gets nervous, and then you

476
00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,000
Speaker 1: know everybody does. But is that going to help him, uh,

477
00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,040
Speaker 1: you know, hiding his skills, sharpen his skills, or is

478
00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,440
Speaker 1: that gonna make him not performing at such a high level.

479
00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:36,720
Speaker 1: But I think if you look at Baker in the

480
00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,040
Speaker 1: big moment he's had in college and the most stressful games,

481
00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:40,800
Speaker 1: for the most part, he's played at his best, And

482
00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,639
Speaker 1: I think that's important. That's that's that's fascinating. Coach. I

483
00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,320
Speaker 1: want to go back to when the college coaches were

484
00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,720
Speaker 1: coming through during the recruiting phase. And obviously you see

485
00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,480
Speaker 1: the success that you guys had as a team, the

486
00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,720
Speaker 1: numbers that Baker put up, um, but he wasn't offered

487
00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,119
Speaker 1: scholarship by everybody, by all the top colleges. What what

488
00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,760
Speaker 1: What were the college coaches is telling you on those

489
00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,639
Speaker 1: visits to campuses. I would imagine you're lobbying for your

490
00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,360
Speaker 1: guy and they're saying, you know what, we just don't

491
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,560
Speaker 1: think he can do X, Y or Z. What was

492
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:09,320
Speaker 1: those kinds? What were those conversations like, um, Well, the

493
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 1: further he got into his high school playing career, the

494
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:16,119
Speaker 1: conversations were more, um, the college guys going godly, that

495
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 1: guy could play, guy, I can throw the ball? What

496
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,959
Speaker 1: a state? You know? So they, uh, it would probably

497
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,879
Speaker 1: someday when they make a movie about it, Uh, it

498
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:24,880
Speaker 1: might it might sound better for them to all come

499
00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 1: back and say, oh no, he's no good too. Now

500
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,520
Speaker 1: they knew he could play. But at the time in

501
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:30,960
Speaker 1: our area of the world, there were a lot of

502
00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,320
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in his grade, uh, and a lot of guys

503
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,320
Speaker 1: that were at the time considered you know, high rated whatever. UM.

504
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,159
Speaker 1: And so nowadays in recruiting, I think there's so much

505
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,160
Speaker 1: pressure on these universities, especially with a quarterback, to move

506
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,119
Speaker 1: quickly to try to get a guy committed so that

507
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 1: you're done. And so I really think that the schools

508
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,280
Speaker 1: in our area that that needed a quarterback in his

509
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,160
Speaker 1: class already had one by the time they really found

510
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 1: out about Baker. And what I mean, but I really

511
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 1: found out about him. UM. Sometimes that our school I

512
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,359
Speaker 1: think that our kids can get labeled a little bit

513
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,520
Speaker 1: as a system quarterback because we've had so many that

514
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,680
Speaker 1: had been successful in a row. And so I think

515
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:04,560
Speaker 1: that was a little bit of it. I think also

516
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 1: the fact that his stature he was under six foot

517
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 1: in high school, UM, and so you know, he really

518
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,680
Speaker 1: didn't start growing until junior and senior year, and so

519
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,720
Speaker 1: he didn't look like a Division one football player. UM.

520
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,399
Speaker 1: And so I think by the time people got a

521
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,800
Speaker 1: chance to to see him on the hoof, to see

522
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 1: him in person, to see him throw it. Either you know,

523
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 1: either they didn't need a quarterback that year or they

524
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 1: had already had a kid in that same grade committed,

525
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:27,679
Speaker 1: and so they were kind of, you know, done shopping.

526
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:29,680
Speaker 1: But I did you know, there there were some guys

527
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 1: that passed on him because they didn't feel like he

528
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 1: could physically, didn't have the tools. But there were a

529
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:35,639
Speaker 1: lot of guys too once we got down to the

530
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,439
Speaker 1: fall of a senior year that already had a quarterback committed,

531
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 1: So they were no longer shopping, but you know they

532
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,639
Speaker 1: were they were like, God, I got can play, you know,

533
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 1: dang it. Wish we would have got in on him

534
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 1: a little sooner. UM. And so he had, you know,

535
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,359
Speaker 1: he had he had interest from Washington State. I know

536
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,199
Speaker 1: that the Michael each in that bunch. When they got there,

537
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 1: they offered him UM and kind of just you know,

538
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 1: bad luck for Baker. Our baseball team was in the

539
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,000
Speaker 1: state UM State tournament that year and so they play

540
00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 1: into June, and so Baker and his family didn't have

541
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:01,920
Speaker 1: an an opportunity to go up and visit campus. That

542
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 1: was something he was excited about. UM and then they

543
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 1: had offered it to another kid and Baker and it's

544
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,880
Speaker 1: it's musical chairs. It's kind of like the first one

545
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 1: to take it, they're gonna get it. And so Baker

546
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 1: lost out on that opportunity. But you know, yeah, it's uh,

547
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,639
Speaker 1: it was frustrating for him. I know that TCU, you know,

548
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 1: they liked him, and they ended up going on another kid.

549
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:20,719
Speaker 1: And so I think there were just three or four

550
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:22,560
Speaker 1: of those things that kind of all got put together.

551
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 1: Oregon State came out on him really late, and I

552
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 1: thought they were gonna offer, but they ended up going

553
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,159
Speaker 1: with another guy. Um, and so he was left with

554
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 1: the opportunity to go to Texas Tech and walk on coach.

555
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 1: So now that it begins to make sense, because Baker

556
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 1: has a chip that he plays with. He he kind

557
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,399
Speaker 1: of plays kind of angry, like he's the underdog. Do

558
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 1: you believe that is something that he's always had? Is

559
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 1: that kind of the byproduct of always being overlooked throughout

560
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 1: the process he was shorter and then most and people

561
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 1: didn't give him maybe the proper respect based on the

562
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 1: talent that he's displayed. Um, I would say, you know

563
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,360
Speaker 1: the way that he plays now, he for the most part,

564
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 1: always carried himself and in a confident way. UM. I

565
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 1: think now, because you know, I'm in long worn country here,

566
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 1: and so if they don't go to Lake Travis and

567
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 1: they're not Lake Travis people, he's really not popular because

568
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 1: he ended up being a Sooner. But but I think

569
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 1: that the way he plays, he's always had that in

570
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 1: and it's really he loves playing the game. Um. He

571
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 1: he talks a lot of trash. And he did that

572
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 1: whether we were playing seven on seven, whether we were

573
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 1: in practice where were or he was playing a pickup

574
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 1: basketball game. Um. He just likes the interact and he

575
00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 1: he loves the action. And so that's something that that

576
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 1: I think that he has kept with him the whole time. Um.

577
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 1: He does play a little bit of a chip on

578
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 1: his shoulder, just um. And I feel like that whatever

579
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 1: guys have to do to get themselves ready to play

580
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 1: at a high level, um, they do it. And you know,

581
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 1: I think for him, UM, he's had success doing that

582
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 1: and playing in that manner, and I think he's gonna

583
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 1: stay with it. I think if you look at the

584
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,479
Speaker 1: you know, Tom Brady is a fiery guy. The way

585
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:49,960
Speaker 1: that he plays, I think that he's toned a little

586
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 1: bit of it down now that he's such a world figure.

587
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 1: But I think earlier on his career you'd see him

588
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 1: getting after dvs and things like that. I think that

589
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: that gets a lot of attention, obviously, but at the

590
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 1: end of the day, he loves playing football. Um and

591
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 1: the guys in the NFL right now that compete at

592
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,360
Speaker 1: a high level and that are the best their job,

593
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 1: they all have that in common. Their fanatical competitors and

594
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 1: they love the game. But not everybody in the NFL,

595
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,719
Speaker 1: and not everybody in Division one college football really really

596
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 1: loves football. But I can tell you that that guy does,

597
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,880
Speaker 1: you know, as much as anyone I've ever seen. Last

598
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 1: question for me, coach, and we appreciate your time, but

599
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 1: I just want to know when when he was at Oklahoma,

600
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,479
Speaker 1: I believe was before a bowl game, we saw him

601
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 1: in his sweats, breakout, break out, the dance was. Did

602
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: you know he was that good of a dancer in

603
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 1: high school? It was just high school dances where he

604
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 1: honed those skills. I knew that he was a dancer. Now,

605
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 1: whether or not he's a good dancer or not, I

606
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 1: guess you know, Beauties in the out of the behold.

607
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,120
Speaker 1: He uh, he would, he would. He would always cut

608
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 1: up and uh, you know it's funny now, our guys

609
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,640
Speaker 1: have always here like Travis. I say it all the time.

610
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 1: If if people knew how goofy our kids were with

611
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 1: you know, we probably would lose that edge were walking

612
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 1: on the field of people and I had the respect

613
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 1: that we do. But yeah, he's always been at ease

614
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 1: with his teammates. He's always like to cut up and

615
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: have a good time. And I think that that's why

616
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 1: his teammates, his classmates, every body has always loved him

617
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 1: because he's a real guy. Uh you know, he's He's

618
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 1: also not afraid to put himself in the limeline and

619
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 1: even poke funding himself. I wish I had the picture,

620
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: but they did. You know, every year that we have

621
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 1: a championship run or something like that, the parents will

622
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 1: put together a highlight of video. And I can remember

623
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 1: that we had an ugly sweater ugly Christmas sweater day

624
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 1: when Baker was a junior, and by god, he won

625
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: that sucker. I was the ugly sweater. You have everything.

626
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 1: So he wasn't afraid to poke funding himself a little

627
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: bit either and get involved and do kind of the

628
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 1: normal kid things, and uh, you know, I think all

629
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,360
Speaker 1: those things together is is going to lead him onto

630
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 1: having a great NFL career. He's he is, He's an everyman.

631
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 1: He's um. You know, He's never thought he was above

632
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: or too good for anything, and I think that resonates

633
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 1: with his teammates. Coach, thank you so much for your time.

634
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 1: We do appreciate it. And we're gonna need a picture

635
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 1: that sweater. Hey, thank you so much. Coach. You wish

636
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 1: you the best of luck next season. Uh, what a

637
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: heck of a program you've got there, man, congratulations, Thank

638
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: you very much. Buck. I always find it fascinating when

639
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 1: you get a chance to talk to these high school coaches.

640
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: Of all the different people we talked to, teammates, doctor

641
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: college coaches, opposing coaches, the whole litany of guys we

642
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 1: talked to for these three sixty episodes, I always enjoyed

643
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: these chats with the high school coaches the most nasking coaching.

644
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 1: They did a great job of shaping him. They understand

645
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,239
Speaker 1: the foundation of who they were as people, who they

646
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 1: were as players, and how they've evolved over the years.

647
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: And so anytime you can get that perspective, you find

648
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 1: out so much more about the kid, no question. Great

649
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 1: great chat there, uh with coach Carter. We appreciate his time.

650
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 1: Let's get to our next interview. Though, after high school,

651
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,239
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield had a little a little little turn over

652
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 1: there right, goes to Texas Tech, doesn't work out for

653
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: him there, decides he wants to move on and he

654
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,439
Speaker 1: ends up at Oklahoma and that's where he's coached by

655
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley, someone you had a chance to visit with.

656
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,359
Speaker 1: Coach you have such a reputation for developing quarterbacks and

657
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 1: offenses and looking at quarterbacks. What are some of the

658
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: core characteristics that you believe are essential for the position.

659
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: I've always believed that, first off, that guy when he's

660
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: in the huddle's gotta make the other ten and guys

661
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: around them better, you know. And and you can just

662
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: feel that with certain guys. You know, certainly the guy

663
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: that you know, Baker Mayfield we just had was certainly

664
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 1: falls into that category. But I think that's maybe the

665
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,120
Speaker 1: most critical factor. Um. And then you know, physically, we've

666
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,479
Speaker 1: always looked at, you know, accuracy first. I think arm

667
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: strength a lot of times, in our opinion, is a

668
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: little bit overrated. M although it's important at times, but

669
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 1: you've gotta be accurate, you've gotta be able to make decisions,

670
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 1: and you've got to be athletic enough to you know,

671
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: run when it's needed and also get yourself out of trouble.

672
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: So many times when I talk to coaches and offensive

673
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 1: coordinated they talk about poise. What does poise mean to

674
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 1: you when you think about your quarterback playing at a

675
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: high level. Well, I think being able to keep their

676
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: composure just within the competitive nature of the game and

677
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: how firing competitive these games are. And then I think

678
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: also it's it's having poise and trusting what you've been

679
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: coached to do. You know, to to do your job

680
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: within whatever system that you're running, and trust that regardless

681
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: of what the game situation is good or bad, trusting

682
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: that I do my job for this team that that's

683
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 1: gonna be good enough to get the result that we want. Now,

684
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 1: spend it a hit to your your guy, Baker Mayfiel,

685
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy winner, guy that was phenomenal during his time

686
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: in Oklahoma. Um, what is his best trait as a

687
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 1: player and a leader? There's a lot, you know, probably

688
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: probably how fearless he is you know, the guy just

689
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: every field he's ever stepped on, he believes he's the biggest,

690
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: baddest guy out there, you know. And I think believing

691
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: in yourself, especially in those critical situations or maybe times

692
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: in your life where other people doubted you or whatever

693
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: there is, I think you gotta believe in yourself, and

694
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: especially with that position, because it's a at times, quarterback

695
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: can be a lonely position. You know, you you handle

696
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: the ball, every player you're you know, directly responsible for,

697
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of the team's success or a

698
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: lot of an offensive success. So you gotta believe in yourself.

699
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: And he does. And and then of course all the

700
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 1: the the competitiveness that you see. Uh, he's a very

701
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: cerebral player, very talented arm and uh a very very

702
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: driven human being. To that point, you talk about his confidence,

703
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: his courage, his competitiveness, lay game situations, in big games,

704
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: this guy has a knack for delivering um. Is that

705
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: contagious that infects you to the teammates believe that if

706
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield has the ball at the end of the game,

707
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: he can find a way to get it done. Absolutely

708
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: they do. I mean, again, he's a guy that's just

709
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: not only makes your offense better, but he's gonna make

710
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: your whole team, your whole program. Uh you know, whatever

711
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: team that that you know he ends up with here

712
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: throughout this process, he's gonna make them all better. And uh,

713
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: I don't know that you can put a value to that.

714
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just the great teams have that. I mean.

715
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Speaker 1: And uh, I mean look who's you know, look who's

716
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: dominated this league for the less you know however many

717
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: years and the Patriots, And to me, it's not a surprise.

718
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: I mean, they've got a guy and that in that

719
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 1: organization that that makes everybody better. And then just like

720
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 1: Baker's you know, done for us at Oklahoma. You know,

721
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: some of the people will talk about Baker in the

722
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 1: system that you guys played in at Oklahoma. Why do

723
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: you believe that, regardless of system, he's going to be

724
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: successful at the next year level. Well, because if you

725
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: look at you know, what we do offense of LEAs,

726
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: you know, it's we do just you know, we do

727
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: it a lot of the different things that he's gonna

728
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: do at this level. I Mean he's played in the gun,

729
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 1: he's played under center, He's done a lot of play action,

730
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: we've moved the pocket. He's been one of the most

731
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: efficient quarterbacks to ever do it. Uh. He's really improved

732
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: within the pocket and become dominant from there. And then again,

733
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: he's a guy that regardless of what system you're playing in,

734
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: when when a play breaks down, the guy has just

735
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: a great knack for making things happen. If you had

736
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: an opportunity to talk to an NFL general manager, what

737
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: would you tell him? He's going to be the main

738
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: reason why Baker Mayfield is gonna be successful. Man, it's

739
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: hard to It's hard to narrow it down to one.

740
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: You know. I just I've seen it for so many

741
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 1: years now. I've seen it in different uh, different venues.

742
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: I've seen it, you know, different challenges the kids faced

743
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: with with you know, so many eyes on him, with

744
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: all the pressure in the world on him. I've seen

745
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: him do it with different you know, players around him.

746
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: The guy just he's a winner. He's a winner. Uh.

747
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: He's gonna make your team better. He's gonna energege your team,

748
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: your and base. Uh. And you'll get every ounce at

749
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: that kid has. Thanks so much just spending time with

750
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: his coach. Appreciate absolutely thanks for having me, well, Bucky

751
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: a great job. They're interviewing Lincoln Riley, and man, I'll

752
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 1: tell you what Lincoln Riley was living right. Gets a

753
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 1: chance to take over that program from Bob Stoops, and

754
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: Bob Stoops gift wrapped them a big time present there

755
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: in Baker Mayfield and rides it all the way to

756
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: the Heisman Trophy and into the final four of the

757
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: the n C Double a season. What a what a

758
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: big time coaching debut for Lincoln Riley and some interesting

759
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: things that to say about his quarterback. You definitely see

760
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: the connection between the coach and the quarterback. Obviously, there's

761
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: going to be a tight connection anytime you have a

762
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: play caller who is working with a signal caller. Um.

763
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: I think with Riley and Mayfield, you have seen a coordinator,

764
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: head coach who has built an offense around the talents

765
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: of his best player. Baker Mayfield was his best player.

766
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: He did a great job of elevating him by putting

767
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: him in situations that kind of play twish strimps. And

768
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: so I'm excited to see how many NFL coaches have

769
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: called Lincoln Riley and tried to tap into that knowledge

770
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: to start four mulating plans for how they want to

771
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: use Mayfield at the next level. Yeah, getting some place

772
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: from him, why not? It's it's worked there. We saw

773
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: it with the Shaun Watson last year, kind of crafting

774
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: offense around a player. I think whoever gets Baker Mayfield

775
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: be wise to make that phone call alright. Uh not

776
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: this year, but the previous year there at Oklahoma, Baker

777
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: Mayfield had a big time explosive weapon to throw the

778
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: ball to. D D. Westbrook. We saw just how talented

779
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: he was in the Flashes his rookie year with the

780
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: Jacksonville jack Wards. We thought this would be a great

781
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: person to talk to about Baker Mayfield. So here's our

782
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: chat with Dede Westbrook. D D. I gotta be honestly,

783
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to watching your former quarterback Baker Mayfield

784
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: make that step to the next level. Can you give

785
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: us a story the first time you met Baker at

786
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: Oklahoma and the very first time I met Baker, I

787
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: didn't really know who Baker was. You know, Uh, he

788
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: had long curls, you know, something that of course I

789
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: wasn't interested in. And as far as the guy to

790
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: have his hair cut. Uh, but yeah, we were like

791
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: sitting at the dinner table, and it was my official visit,

792
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: and so it was that Friday he was my host,

793
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: and that day was my birthday, and so he was like, hey, man,

794
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: what are you planning on doing tonight, Like what are

795
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: you interested in? And I was like, man, actually, it's

796
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: my birthday, So I'm gonna go to my hotel room

797
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: and spend it with my girlfriend at the time, And

798
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: so pretty much that's what I ended up doing. And

799
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: then the next day I met up with him. I

800
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: had a great time with him and Sterling, and I

801
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: ended up committing to Oklahoma. And so when I first

802
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 1: got there, I didn't have a car, and I stayed

803
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 1: in the house and I stayed about fifteen minutes from

804
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: the campus, you know. And so my first week of workouts,

805
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: I was late every week, and so Baker came up

806
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: to me like a quarterback shoot and he was like,

807
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: um did he like, I've noticed you've been being late

808
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: and for you to be one of the players that

809
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: we're looking to make plays for us next year, Like,

810
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 1: you just get me your address and I will come

811
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: pick you up wherever it is that you stay every

812
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: morning so you won't be late. And so like I said,

813
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: I stayed fifteen minutes from the campus. We had five

814
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 1: thirty in the morning workouts, so that means Baker was

815
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 1: getting up hour maybe four thirty four o'clock, just so

816
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: he can make it out to my house to pick

817
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: me up and so we can get back to the

818
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: to the school on time so we can compete the workouts.

819
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: And then after all that, throughout all my all my classes,

820
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: even though our classes were different, he would pick me

821
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 1: up and take me back to my house, you know.

822
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 1: And so for for me seeing that, I was like,

823
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 1: this is a really good guy, you know what I mean. Like,

824
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: and I see in the media, of course they're trying

825
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,439
Speaker 1: to be trying to be a bad person, but he's

826
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: a very care and charismatic person, you know. And for

827
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 1: a guy to stop what he's doing, he's already been

828
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: there a whole year before I even got there, so

829
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: he know the ropes about everything. But for him to

830
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: take me under his arm, you know, I mean, it's

831
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: it's very humbling of him, you know, DJ d d

832
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 1: Um to think about that part of it, Like he

833
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: speaks to his leadership and you talk about him being

834
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: an off field leader picking you up every day taking you,

835
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: uh to campus. What is he like in game? What

836
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 1: is that guy like when the lights are on and

837
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: y'all step between the lines. What kind of leadership? What

838
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: kind of personality does he have? On game day? He's pumped,

839
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: super excited. You know, uh what you what you see

840
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: after you throw a touchdown past? That's that's what you get.

841
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: And I don't care. We are fifty four zero of

842
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 1: half time. We gotta we gotta do more. Whatever we

843
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: did the first half to get us fifty four points

844
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,800
Speaker 1: isn't enough. You know, we're supposed to be at seventy

845
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: by halftime. Like that's the That's the type of personality

846
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: you have. That's the type of leadership he have. You know,

847
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: he he want to fight, He wanna continue to be

848
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: better each and every play. I mean, and he's one

849
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: of those guys whenever he's wrong, he's gonna admit that

850
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: he's wrong. And whenever you're wrong, you're not gonna let

851
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: you take member to blame out on yourself like it's

852
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: all his fault. I want to go back to maybe

853
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: some time in spring ball, when you're going good on

854
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: good Oklahoma against Oklahoma, this Baker give that same treatment

855
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 1: to his guys to the oklahom with defense, and how

856
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: did those guys react to him? Definitely, give me an example,

857
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: give me example of that what he was like there

858
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: in spring bolll against your own dudes. Him and Jordan

859
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: Thomas will have it out a lot, you know, and

860
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 1: he liked to go at Jordan Thomas. Jordan Thomas is

861
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 1: a real smart player, and he learned our plays, you know,

862
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: the signals. He learned to hear signals, and and so

863
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: Baker will go at him just because he knew the plays,

864
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: you know, And like that's the type. That's just the

865
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: type of guy he is. Like, we beat you and

866
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: you knew what we were doing. What do you let

867
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: him know what he said? What do you say something

868
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: afterwards to let him know? Mus Definitely, you know, he

869
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 1: run up to him. You know, new Baker Mayfield things.

870
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 1: So what do you mean by Baking Mayfield things? So

871
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,240
Speaker 1: because from a far when we look at Baker Mayfield,

872
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 1: he's a little different than the typical quarterbacks in terms

873
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: of the way that he reacts, the emotion that he displays.

874
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: Is that just who he is. He's just an emotional guy.

875
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: He's just he loves the game. That much that it

876
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: just comes out in his actions. That's that's exactly what

877
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: it is. Exactly what it is, and and it makes

878
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: you want to play for him because he brings so

879
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 1: much excitement to the game. You talked a real quick

880
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 1: about your your adjustment, you know, and it's like this

881
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:21,760
Speaker 1: for a lot of guys coming out of the college

882
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 1: spread system. But you had an adjustment to make, uh,

883
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: you know, coming out of a college spread and and

884
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 1: coach McCardell has helped you through that. What do you

885
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,080
Speaker 1: think will be the biggest adjustment for Baker haven't been

886
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 1: around the NFL game now versus what you're asked to

887
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 1: do in college. Just pretty much harnessing some of that emotion.

888
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 1: I'm not saying take it completely out of his game,

889
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 1: you know, of course, play the game to the best

890
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:47,240
Speaker 1: of your ability, but just harnessing some of it because

891
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: it can kind of be detrimental sometimes, you know, because uh,

892
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: the defenses in the NFL, they're not gonna like that,

893
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And so it's gonna get

894
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: real aggressive. But for him, being a competitor, he never

895
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: showed a way he's gonna step up. Um, So when

896
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: you envisioned Baker in the National Football League five years

897
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: from now, what kind of career do you think you'll

898
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: be having at that point. I feel like you'll be

899
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: having a Russell Wilson's type career. Yeah, that's strong. That's

900
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: strong company, strong company. Right there. I gotta go off

901
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 1: script because go ahead. I'm just curious, like, so, if

902
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,760
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield was playing against your Jaguars defense with Jalen

903
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 1: and uh Telvin Smith and all the bark is that

904
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:37,919
Speaker 1: you guys have, what would that be like to watch? Yeah?

905
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 1: Most definitely we come man, because I mean, I I

906
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: know Jayla Ramy, I know tell men. Yeah, you come on. Well,

907
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,800
Speaker 1: hey that's a pretty good that's pretty good. Uh Capper

908
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: right there, DIDDI. Thank you so much for your time. Man.

909
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: We wish you the best of luck in the future

910
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 1: and appreciate your insights there on Ker Mayfield as well.

911
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: Thank you for having me all right, buck DDI Westbrook, Man,

912
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 1: that was fascinating insight there. I thought on Baker Mayfield

913
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: going to pick him up and then taking him back afterwards.

914
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: That it gives you a little That's what the three

915
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 1: sixty series is all about. Give you a little different

916
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 1: picture of Baker Mayfield gives you're a completely different picture

917
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 1: than you may have had if you didn't hear this

918
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: story on Baker Mayfield. Indeed, Westbrook, the fact that he

919
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: took the time to not only pick him up and

920
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 1: stayed around um and take him back home after the

921
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 1: day says a lot about his leadership skills, says a

922
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 1: lot about his relationship with his teammates, and then you

923
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: begin to get a better feel for why the people

924
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: at Oklahoma love him so much. That's why we were

925
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: doing these episodes. We want to be able to give

926
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: you a complete picture. We want to go with the

927
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 1: obvious guys. You think we would talk to a guy

928
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: like Deeedi Westbrook who's up for the Heisman Trophy with

929
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: his teammate uh and Baker Mayfield, then we like to

930
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: go maybe the not so obvious. I like to take

931
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: a little bit deeper. Like our next guest, who is

932
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 1: a w w E Hall of Fame announcer, Jim Ross Jr.

933
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: If you follow wrestling, you're familiar with this name. And

934
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: if you if you think you don't know, I want

935
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: you to hear his voice. You immediately recognize that he

936
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: is a long time Oklahoma Sooner fan. He's on the

937
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 1: sideline just about each and every week. He's followed this

938
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: program forever. He lives right there in Norman and actually

939
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 1: has some great insight into Baker Mayfield. First of all,

940
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: thank you so much for taking some time in a

941
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: big week for you, I know, with WrestleMania coming up here, Uh,

942
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: to talk about Baker Mayfield. First question for me is

943
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 1: when was the first time you met Baker or even

944
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: heard of Baker. Uh. I heard of him as a

945
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: freshman at Tech. Uh, even though the apparently their administration

946
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: a football team that had not heard of him. It's

947
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 1: only the Big twelve saw freshman of the Year. But

948
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: then I have a sideline access one of those jock

949
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: stuff for celebrity guys, and Uh, I was on the

950
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: sideline when he was red shirting. So good kid, I

951
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: got to do very well. And Uh, I'll give you

952
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: a lot of good stories about Baker. He's he's a

953
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 1: he's a he's a real keeper. How unique is that

954
00:41:58,040 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 1: story to go from being a guy that was a

955
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: pretty good player in Texas Tech two deciding to walk

956
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: on at Oklahoma without announcing to anybody that he was coming. Uh,

957
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: what does that say about him as a player as

958
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 1: a person. I think it says a lot, Bucky. I

959
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 1: think it says a lot. And people that compare him

960
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:18,400
Speaker 1: incessantly to Johnny Manzel are foolish. Uh. And I just

961
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: I can't believe that. Arnie lad to me one time

962
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: it is a fool that looks upon the skills of

963
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: wise man and calls it luck. Baker Mayfield eight luck.

964
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: He's a player. He's a kind of guy. You on

965
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: the Fox Hill with you and Uh, great heart, good kid.

966
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 1: I I think somebody's gonna get to a health player,

967
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,439
Speaker 1: no doubt. Well, we talked about as competitive all the time.

968
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 1: Just how competitive he is is there is there a

969
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 1: story you have that's a good example of just how

970
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: competitive this kid is, maybe that we don't know about. Well.

971
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: I sent him jump in the middle of the defensive

972
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 1: alignment on more than one occasion to encourage them to

973
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: tackle better. Uh. He has no fear and the players

974
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: love him. Uh. In ninety two I broadcast for the

975
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 1: Falcons and they had this rookie named Brett Farve or

976
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: as a commissioner said, Favre and uh Jon Favreau somebody anyway. Uh,

977
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: but Baker is a lot like Brett. He's a he's

978
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: a guy that everybody wants to hang with, and uh,

979
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:18,240
Speaker 1: everybody likes it. So I I think that his competitiveness,

980
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 1: his language he uses sometimes this reminds me of my

981
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 1: dad at the wood Head. But it's still okay as

982
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 1: long as you know your audience. Well, obviously you've been

983
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: around a lot of successful pros, not only like guys

984
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,439
Speaker 1: from Oklahoma they have gone on to be successful NFL guys,

985
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: but wrestlers. What about Baker's personality in his makeup leads

986
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 1: you to believe that he would be a good pro

987
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: in the National Football League? Well, he's just he's a

988
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: player's he's a player's player, man. I mean he he

989
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: has great skills, he's a very competitive He does a

990
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: pregame warm up guys, that's uh with rival Odell Beckham

991
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 1: catching the ball in one hand here, one hand there,

992
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: and uh, he's just amazing. And I'll tell you a

993
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: lot the story. My wife got killed last March. Uh,

994
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: and I asked that there, Norman, and you know, it

995
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 1: made the news and so forth. But when Becker first

996
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 1: saw me, when that after that was over, he gave

997
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 1: me the biggest hub He had tears in his eyes.

998
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: I hope I don't get it right now, and he said,

999
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 1: j R. I love you and I got your back.

1000
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: And he's before every ball game I got a big

1001
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: hug this past season, JR. I love you and I

1002
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 1: got your back. So that's the kind of kid he is.

1003
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 1: He's got heart, he's got passion, and he has worked

1004
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 1: so damned hard to get to this level. He wasn't

1005
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 1: recruited out of Lake Travis High School to a degree

1006
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: one state championship. Texas Tech, you know, turned him back

1007
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: on him, and so uh oh you was just the

1008
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: place for him. Lincoln Rally was a right coach for him.

1009
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 1: And now that the journey continues. And then he loved

1010
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 1: this kid. He's really he's really special guys. And how

1011
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: about the job he's done just on the big stage.

1012
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 1: I know, when you're and your profession, you get a

1013
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 1: chance to see guys on a huge stage. And this

1014
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,399
Speaker 1: stars kind of emerge in those big moments, in those

1015
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 1: clutch moments in front of everybody. What is it about

1016
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: Baker specifically that makes him shine in those big time moments.

1017
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 1: He has no fear. He has no fear, He's not

1018
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:18,240
Speaker 1: intimidated by a situation or scenario. And look, I understand

1019
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: he was, well, you get getting the league. The league's

1020
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: never deal. There's still a lot of people there and

1021
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: they're still yelling. You're still fan football? You getting hell

1022
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: knocked out of you. He relishus that opportunity. I've seen

1023
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 1: him some very hostile environments, and sometimes he may be

1024
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 1: overreacted like a Kansas Nobody should get angry at anybody

1025
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:39,320
Speaker 1: Kansas about the football game. First of all, it's it.

1026
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: It's a miracle anyplay sick, right, so uh, but he's

1027
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 1: just a he has heart and that passion. I think

1028
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: we'll will permeate throughout the locker room. I think the

1029
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 1: whoever gets like I said, well, we're gonna get a

1030
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: good guy. I want to lean in your experiencing expertise

1031
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: as a wrestle many a god, I want to. I

1032
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,760
Speaker 1: want you to tell me, like, and we're into comparison business.

1033
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: Who would Baker Mayfield be if he was a wrestling

1034
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: who would he be? Like? Oh? Easy? Uh? He would

1035
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 1: either be like the nature worry, rip Flair heartbreak. Here

1036
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: Shawn Michaels wanted to He's flamboyant, exciting, but has the

1037
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: biggest heart and the most passionate in the locker room.

1038
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: That's Flair and Shawn Michaels uh and so Becker would

1039
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: fit in that mold. I think, quite well, that's phenomenal.

1040
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: And I know I think we tipped you off and

1041
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 1: we're gonna ask you do this because I don't think

1042
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: many folks know you did you have call football games.

1043
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: You do that for the for the Atlanta Falcons, as

1044
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: you mentioned when Brett was there. So we want to

1045
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: give you a play here from the Rose Bowl. We

1046
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: just kind of set the scene a little bit for us.

1047
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 1: You got dust off those uh those old skills and

1048
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 1: get the get you we'll get your touchdown here from

1049
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl before it went the other way here.

1050
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you go here. So I think we

1051
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: got here. You go. It's all you Well, that is

1052
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: says Yemen. We're here. It's January the first world. When

1053
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: you want to be passage to California, this is the

1054
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 1: Rose Bowl and the mighty Oklahoma centers with a great

1055
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 1: back Baker Mayfield in red zone territory. There's a reverse

1056
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 1: and uh way that the past the past. Mayfield is

1057
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 1: along in the end zone Baker Mayfield. Baker Mayfield with

1058
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:14,240
Speaker 1: a touchdown a six per number six, shaking and baking

1059
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: all the way down the sideline, Boomer Suoner Baker. That's that.

1060
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 1: That's it. That was awesome. That's better than that. See

1061
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 1: your w W Hall of Fame and you'd be you'd

1062
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: be an NFL Hall of Famer if you just stayed

1063
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 1: there about that. That's phenomenal. Well, I appreciate you guys.

1064
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: But here's the thing that Oklahoma football is in my DNA.

1065
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 1: I love it, uh, you know, and it's four. I

1066
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 1: moved back to Oklahoma because I want to be here

1067
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: in the football program. Sounds kind of crazy, but I

1068
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: live three miles in the stadium and my happiest days

1069
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,240
Speaker 1: are around that football program and the players and the coaches.

1070
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 1: Do you getting any discussions with Barry with Coach Switzer

1071
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:55,240
Speaker 1: about comparing this kind of new style of Oklahoma football,

1072
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: which is chuck and duck versus what Barry used to

1073
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: do back in the day. Now we'r own coach Switcher.

1074
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:05,399
Speaker 1: The king will whole court and you will listen, will

1075
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: listen to it, and generally the son of a guns

1076
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 1: pretty right, you know, he's uh, he's pretty good. I

1077
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,320
Speaker 1: know him mad He told me he said, when Baker

1078
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: had this going to run in and Fayette with Arkansas,

1079
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: UH Switcher said, none of those arcies would have caught

1080
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:24,800
Speaker 1: my quarterback. That's fantastic, Hey, real quick off the subject

1081
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: of Baker um one of the things we do look

1082
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: with longtime scouts. So I'm curious the job you've done.

1083
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: You might be the best scout in wrestling history. The

1084
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,280
Speaker 1: guys you've been able to find from the football field

1085
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 1: and then convert them over to wrestling, guys like the

1086
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: Rock What what did you see in them? Yeah? I

1087
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: know he had a background there in the business with

1088
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 1: his family, But can you glean anything from the football

1089
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,720
Speaker 1: field that you can directly correlate to being a good wrestler.

1090
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 1: But when I recruited UH future wrestlers from football programs,

1091
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: you find that you have several sources of background information.

1092
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: You can talk the head coach, posician, coach, is strength coach,

1093
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: academic advisor, all minds of people that can give you

1094
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,240
Speaker 1: feedback on the character, the work, ethic, and the commitment

1095
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: of these players. I found John Cena at Springfield College.

1096
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 1: He was he was a small college All American center

1097
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: captain of the team and a weight room freak. He

1098
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 1: also graduated, so he had good grades. He had a degree,

1099
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 1: he was captain of the team, he was an All American,

1100
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: So why the hell wasn't I recruit a guy like that.

1101
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 1: Dwayne Jones is the same. Well, you know, the Rock

1102
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: was six four or six five two seventy When I

1103
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 1: had lunch with him the first time. First lunch, every

1104
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: woman in the restaurant came by the superie want in

1105
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: boarder to drink, and a lot of didn't work there.

1106
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: I just want to get close to the to the Rocks.

1107
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: So uh he said, there's a field thing, but there's

1108
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 1: checks and balances that the game of football provides us

1109
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: as participants in players and fans that are all uh

1110
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: if you can always evaluate. So it's it's a cool thing, man.

1111
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: I I love checking those guys out on the football side,

1112
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 1: and and some of the biggest stars in wrestling Stone Cole,

1113
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 1: Steve Auston defensive in North Texas, uh Oak almost had

1114
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: cerebral wrestlers Bill Watch, Danny Hodge, uh Walho McDaniel. So

1115
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 1: it's just a cool thing for me because I you

1116
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: know what football players have made up guys. You guys

1117
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 1: not better than I do, but I have so much

1118
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: confidence in respect for that game that I found some

1119
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 1: great wrestlers from that world. You know, it's funny, this

1120
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 1: is so full circle because being draft rooms, we always

1121
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:25,919
Speaker 1: gave bonus points. I mean we have ray Lewis Wiles

1122
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 1: with the Ravens was a fantastic wrestler. Roddy Whitehamember him

1123
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,720
Speaker 1: coming out as a receiver, even had a wrestling background.

1124
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: We give guys bonus points on the football side for

1125
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,720
Speaker 1: being wrestlers, and it sounds like in the wrestling business

1126
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: you give guys a little bonus points for being football players.

1127
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 1: Absolutely well, you want to know, even though wrestling is

1128
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: a performance art and I'm sure somebody we're rolling their eyes,

1129
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 1: did J R. Say art and describing a pro wrestling event. Yes,

1130
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 1: But the deal is is that there's so many things

1131
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 1: that you want those people to bring to your locker room.

1132
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:00,359
Speaker 1: And if you've been a good locker room guy, you've

1133
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 1: got a good team guy, you did the locker room community,

1134
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 1: then I believe that you'll have the same opportunities to

1135
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 1: for my locker rooms. That's kind of how I looked

1136
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: at it. We just did all the all the fact

1137
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: that checking and all the background stuff, and it's just

1138
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 1: we've got some pretty good guys out of the game

1139
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 1: a football, and right now it's no different. I don't

1140
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: know why Asians don't contact w w E when their

1141
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 1: guys football run is over and and see if they

1142
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 1: can't use that big personality and the athletics skills, uh

1143
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: and make them sell some real money and maybe get

1144
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: discovered like Dwayne Johnson did. Who's not doing bad right now?

1145
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 1: J R. I think you just get an idea for

1146
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 1: our new consulting business. Just gonna be the three of

1147
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: us here. We're gonna put this thing together, make a

1148
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 1: little extra scratch on the side. What do you say?

1149
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 1: I'm in last question before I let you go. If

1150
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 1: if you want to give Baker a name, can we

1151
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 1: give him a nickname? If we want to give him

1152
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: a wrestling name, can you give us one. I'll put

1153
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 1: you on the spot here before we before we run.

1154
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: But I just think he's got so much charisma, so

1155
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,800
Speaker 1: much personality, so competitive and tough. I just don't know

1156
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: if I have a good wrestling name for him though. Yeah,

1157
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 1: maybe the sensational sooner. Oh, here we go. I think

1158
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: you just might have titled the podcast for us that, look,

1159
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: we can't thank you Jr. Thank you so much for

1160
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: your time. I know this is a crazy, hectic week

1161
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 1: for you. It doesn't get any bigger in your business

1162
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: than this week. And for you to take some time

1163
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,399
Speaker 1: for us today to talk about Baker, we can't thank

1164
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: you enough. He's a good kid. Guys again, Uh, great

1165
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: mom and dad. Mom and dad are still married, they're

1166
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: stilling the home together. People may say, what does that mean, Well,

1167
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 1: it makes a lot of difference quite frankly. Uh, but

1168
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 1: he's a good kid. He ain't Johnny Manziel And look,

1169
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 1: I don't know what John I don't know Johnny man

1170
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 1: sell personally. I know he make some stupid decisions. Baker's

1171
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 1: made some bad decisions. But someday we're all having a beer.

1172
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 1: I'll tell you about my time getting arrested at eighteen

1173
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,879
Speaker 1: in Port Smith, arkasas for minor possession of untaxed beer.

1174
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: So there's a scoop for you. It's phenomenal. We're gonna

1175
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:49,839
Speaker 1: talk about that when we're putting our consulting business together.

1176
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 1: The boy, I appreciate a guy. Thank you so much.

1177
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 1: Have a great Weekend. Thanks Felis well Black. I think

1178
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: we've done some cool things on this three sixties series.

1179
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's not anything cooler than that.

1180
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: How fun was that conversation? That was a lot of fun.

1181
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 1: It was pretty It's pretty It's pretty incredible to hear

1182
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 1: the stories and how you blend and goes back and

1183
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 1: forth between uh, making may feel and some of those

1184
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 1: the guys he's touched. So yeah, the nature boy Fletcher dude,

1185
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: unbelievable nature boy. I like that comparison though. I like

1186
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 1: that comparison. Sean Michael is the heart A lot of

1187
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 1: parallels for sure. I think that's a uh, that's a

1188
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 1: prevalkable comparison, one that I may use later on you go.

1189
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 1: But on a serious note, the uh, the the impact

1190
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,720
Speaker 1: he had on him after his wife had passed away

1191
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: pretty cool. I mean, that's again another little layer of

1192
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. I don't know if everybody knows about. It's

1193
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 1: a pretty cool insight there. It's pretty cool insight. This

1194
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 1: kind of insight that we would have had if we

1195
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: were still in the scouting business in terms of going

1196
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: on school calls, trying to get other people to kind

1197
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: of kind of shape and Vet the character Jim were

1198
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 1: all certainly vetted Baker Mayfield's character. Alright, we're getting ready

1199
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: wrap this thing up here. Let's say we've done this

1200
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: for for all these three sixty episodes. Try and find

1201
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 1: the best fit. Where would be a good spot for

1202
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield at the next level? Want you lead us off?

1203
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 1: Which which team do you like? The best spot would

1204
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: be the New Orleans Saints. And the reason it would

1205
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 1: be the best but he would get an opportunity to

1206
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 1: sit and watch the guy that he hopes to emulate

1207
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 1: and Drew Brees. He also will get a chance to

1208
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: play for a great offensive mind and Sean Payton. Sean

1209
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 1: Payton has already done it before with Drew Brees. I

1210
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 1: believe a transition from Drew Brees to Baker Mayfield would

1211
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 1: be a seamless transition from the New Orleans Saints. That's

1212
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 1: why we're fully endorse that move. Well, the team. You

1213
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: keep hearing about Miami that Miami seems enamored with him,

1214
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 1: and I can definitely buy that as a fit. But

1215
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 1: Alex Smith plug ears you're not gonna want to hear this.

1216
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,399
Speaker 1: I think the wash your redskins and and really it's

1217
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: it's you almost feel bad for saying this, but Alex

1218
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 1: Smith get you a couple of years there, Buck, But

1219
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: he's proven he can mentor. He does a great job

1220
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: in that role there. I don't know if he wants that.

1221
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 1: I know it's probably if I don't think he put

1222
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 1: it into contract, like, hey, please bring another quarterback from

1223
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 1: you to mental. Well, he just got another another big

1224
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: pay day, so he got some money there from the Redskins.

1225
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 1: But I you think if you look at the job

1226
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 1: he did with Patrick Mahomes, he handled that situation with

1227
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: such class and professionalism and really gave him a year

1228
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 1: to kind of learn and and get ready to go.

1229
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: So to me, I think that was a was an

1230
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,760
Speaker 1: ideal move last year for the Chiefs. Maybe it repeats

1231
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 1: itself this year with the Washington Redskins. Very well could

1232
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 1: repeat itself. I think it's interesting um to have a

1233
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 1: quarterback like Ellis Smith mentor a guy like Baker Mayfield.

1234
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: I don't know how much he would love it. Buff

1235
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. It's another great situation watch someone who came

1236
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: in as the number one overall found his way in

1237
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 1: the league and has become a Pro Bowl caliber quarterback

1238
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 1: and won the winning this Quarterbacks of Late. Obviously, Alex

1239
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: Smith did the same thing with Kaepernick way back in

1240
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: the Day three Quarterbacks. He's he may scream, yeah, he's like,

1241
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 1: I don't want to say he's a quarterback. Some people

1242
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 1: were referred to as a quarterback guru, quarterback whisper. He's

1243
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: like like a quarterback babysitter. Just kind of take care

1244
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 1: of him for and make sure they get get him

1245
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,319
Speaker 1: their breakfast in the morning. This day is it does

1246
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: a nice job, like a like a nanny, quarterback nanny.

1247
00:55:57,960 --> 00:55:59,879
Speaker 1: That's what Alex Smith is doing there. I think that'd

1248
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:03,320
Speaker 1: be Look, Baker Mayfield. I think of the quarterbacks in

1249
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:08,280
Speaker 1: this draft class, I think position for immediate success depending

1250
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 1: on the situation, but I'd say Rosen and Mayfield are

1251
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 1: probably the two. Just just get them right out there,

1252
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 1: they'll be ready to go to different reasons why Mayfield's experience.

1253
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:17,720
Speaker 1: Anytime you have a guy who's that played over forty

1254
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 1: plus games at the collegiate level, he's had a ton

1255
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 1: of reps throwing the ball, seeing defense, understanding and even

1256
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 1: that makes it tough to transition to the league. But

1257
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 1: the reps matter. I think Baker Mayfield would be will

1258
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:29,800
Speaker 1: position to get on the field early and have some

1259
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,239
Speaker 1: success with a veryvery good team. Well, hopefully you guys

1260
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 1: have enjoyed this three sixty episode. If this is the

1261
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 1: first one you're checking out, maybe you're Oklahoma fan and

1262
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:38,839
Speaker 1: you've you've wanted to listen to this because it's your guy,

1263
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. Trust me, you're gonna enjoy these other ones.

1264
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 1: You're gonna enjoy Sae Kwon Barkley, You're gonna enjoy all

1265
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks we have coming up on this series. If

1266
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 1: you haven't listened to any of the other episodes, give

1267
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 1: it a try and give it a listen. I think

1268
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 1: you'll enjoy it. It's the it's the best thing that

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Speaker 1: Allen's out there. We've got Josh Rosen and Sam Dna

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Speaker 1: it out because this is really some of the best

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Speaker 1: on to the generation of stars that soon to come,

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Speaker 1: and quick shout out before we get out here to

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Speaker 1: uh to Mr Singer. He has done a phenomenal job

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Speaker 1: behalf here. All right, that's gonna do it for Baker

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