WEBVTT - Jerry Seinfeld 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:07.960 This is Alec Baldwin and you're listening to Here's the thing, 0:00:08.520 --> 0:00:12.760 My chance to talk with artists, policymakers and performers, to 0:00:12.880 --> 0:00:17.200 hear their stories. What inspired their creations, what decisions change 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:21.759 their careers, what relationships influenced their work. You have this 0:00:21.880 --> 0:00:27.800 relationship with the audience that is private between you and them. 0:00:27.840 --> 0:00:31.920 Your critics want to write, people want to talk. We 0:00:31.920 --> 0:00:35.440 we have our own thing that nobody, nobody can break 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:39.000 that Once you build that, it can't be broken. Why 0:00:39.000 --> 0:00:46.640 are you please welcome Jerry Steinfeld. Jerry Seinfeld debuted on 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:50.800 HBO in It was the same year he first appeared 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:54.320 on Johnny Carson. He was twenty seven years old. Nice 0:00:54.360 --> 0:00:56.360 to be here tonight, A pleasure to be here tonight. 0:00:56.640 --> 0:01:00.760 Seinfeld's material stood out. It wasn't about his upbringing or 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:06.000 personal relationships. It was about our universal experience of everyday things. 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:08.720 But Johns have got to be the world's funniest clothes. 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:11.280 Who designed them to look that way? Like a little 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:17.920 tiny suit? Notice little collar button down and a breast pocket. 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:23.600 There's a useful item. Is anybody using the breast pocket 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:27.280 on you? For times, Seinfeld asked questions we wished we'd 0:01:27.319 --> 0:01:30.400 thought of. Then he'd answer them with a casual precision 0:01:30.720 --> 0:01:35.400 that seemed to spin comedy out of nothing. In eight 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:39.160 years after his HBO debut, he and Larry David created 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:43.080 a weekly series that would change both their lives. This 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:47.440 is the show, and we're not going to change it. Right, 0:01:51.200 --> 0:01:57.440 how about this? I manage a circus Seinfeld brand For 0:01:57.560 --> 0:02:02.080 nine seasons on NBC. It was critical and popular success. 0:02:02.680 --> 0:02:06.240 The show about nothing, as it's been described, challenged some 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:12.200 long established laws of mainstream television comedy. It was brilliantly unsentimental. 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:17.160 The characters rarely exhibited emotions other than exasperation. You think 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:21.520 what was going on? And on set, the writers held 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:25.080 strongly to a principle they dubbed no hugging, no learning. 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:29.360 But the seventies six million viewers who watched the series 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:32.520 finale waited to see what would happen next to the 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:35.280 performers they'd grown to love. We could put on a show, 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:39.240 maybe uh Bye Bye Birdie or My Fair Lady Elaine. 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:43.680 And even though conventional wisdom predicted spinoffs and sequels, Jerry 0:02:43.720 --> 0:02:49.880 Seinfeld went back to stand up and it wasn't easy. Yeah, 0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:54.239 all the stuff I've never set before anyone. So this 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:58.000 happened to has developed tour and as you can say, 0:02:58.080 --> 0:03:02.440 it's quite painful. He's done a few other projects as well. 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:05.839 The latest on the internet is a show called Comedians 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:10.200 in Cars Getting Coffee, which combines some of his favorite things, 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:14.519 driving while talking to his friends and drinking coffee. It's 0:03:14.560 --> 0:03:16.760 funny that you picked a Jaguar, because I have a 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:20.680 secret love of Jaguars. But I'm not a car person, 0:03:20.800 --> 0:03:24.320 and I don't believe in spending money on cars. No offense. 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:31.000 Jerry Seinfeld has it figured out. He isn't destroying himself 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:34.720 trying to prove something. He isn't tortured by the challenges 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:38.480 of his art. He keeps things simple and clear. Take 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:41.280 his regular morning routine when he wakes up. If my 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:44.040 wife is up, I like that because I do not 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:49.000 like cat pulling around. I want to get up. Let's go, baby. 0:03:49.160 --> 0:03:53.240 So the first thing I want, Yeah, I want, I 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:57.240 want sports radio on. And I and I washed, and 0:03:57.720 --> 0:04:00.240 I run the faucets and I start splashing my face 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:04.640 with water like Mace in the Hustler, like Mace, And 0:04:04.840 --> 0:04:06.800 I was gonna see more like Joan Crawford before she 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:09.840 goes in the studio to see Gleeson and the hustler 0:04:10.480 --> 0:04:14.360 goes into the bathroom splashes his face with water to 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:17.880 revive for the next round. Yeah, and I took that. 0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:20.680 I said, that's great. I'm gonna do that. That's how 0:04:20.720 --> 0:04:25.160 you face life. Water water. If I splash water, yea. 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:28.080 What if you go on stage? Is that what you do? 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:30.200 You know, after I come off, when you come on, 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:32.240 when I come off, the hardest thing when you come 0:04:32.240 --> 0:04:36.200 off is to return to your actual personality. You've blown 0:04:36.240 --> 0:04:42.119 your personality up to this, you know, joker Jack Nicholson face. 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:46.159 And when you come off stage, I gotta go back 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:49.920 to me and I need a minute. People try and 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:51.640 talk to me when I come off. I can't talk 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:55.960 to him. I got I gotta splash some water. I go, yeah, 0:04:56.000 --> 0:05:03.039 got beautiful to give me. That's how I like to 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:06.960 start the morning. Shades up radio sports radio on splashing 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:10.120 the face? Yes, and then and then what do you 0:05:10.120 --> 0:05:14.000 have for breakfast? What's breakfast? Oatmeal? Honey and sentiment. So 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:15.760 there's a kind of a military theme, but there's a 0:05:15.839 --> 0:05:19.280 kind of a military base theme. Your home doesn't resemble 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:26.080 a military base. I'm not funny. People die people are 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:29.080 gonna get hurt. Yeah, you want me on that stage, 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:35.680 you need me on that stage. Is that how you feel? No, No, 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:39.599 you don't know. What word do you just use to 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:42.120 describe what you do? What word do you use? What 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:46.360 describes what you do? Well, there's a term for it. 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:48.839 I don't need to describe it with another world called 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:52.440 stand up comedy. You call yourself a comic. You don't 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:55.160 call yourself an actor. No, I'm not an actor. You're 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:58.200 not an actor. I have acted. Have you ever considered 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:03.760 doing anything dramatic? No? Why to what end? Okay, it's 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:06.520 just a waste of time. Yes, So when when you 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:09.520 saw someone like I mean the most you know, blaring 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:12.560 example is when Jerry Lewis does King of Comedy and 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:15.960 crushes it. When Jerry Lewis comes in there and plays 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:19.200 that kind of just arid, I mean, it was so 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:22.600 remarkable his performance. It was breathtaking. He was breath You 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:26.400 don't remember the movie. I thought he was breath And 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:29.440 you don't see yourself doing that kind of in the 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:32.200 hands of someone like that. Of course you do something 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:34.719 like that, but that's what I'm saying. But that's his movie, 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:36.279 not you grading me. Am I like, am I not 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:37.839 getting it right here? I'm just I'm just I'm just 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:42.000 ripping with you, and I'm just saying that, um, what 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:47.520 I do is um, um the only thing that makes 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:49.720 sense to me. But I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:51.840 saying that that you know that I appreciate. What I'm 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:55.200 saying is that there are people that come out on film, 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:58.839 you know, comics, stand up comics, clubs, performing, maybe they 0:06:58.920 --> 0:07:01.840 go into sitcoms with shows or just be be joke, 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:04.080 be joke, they tell jokes, and then they go into 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:07.359 the movie business and there's some sense that there's going 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:09.240 to be and again not just stand up people, but 0:07:09.600 --> 0:07:12.200 the improvisatory groups, you know, if they come from UCB 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:15.800 or Groundlings Corral is a good example, and they come 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:18.720 on and there was an amount of acting that's required. 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:21.720 When you did your TV show, there was some acting 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:23.840 that was required. So but you don't but you gotta 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:26.120 act the whole show. But but some saying, so you 0:07:26.120 --> 0:07:27.640 don't call yourself an actor that you just say I'm 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:30.560 a comic. If I'm on the show acting, then i'm acting. 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:34.200 I'm I'm a comedian. Okay, I'm a stand up comedian. 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:37.480 That's what I call myself. But I can act. I 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:40.440 just don't see the need for it. I don't think 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:44.560 the world needs me to do that. Paul Rudd, what 0:07:44.760 --> 0:07:47.520 do you need me for? You got a guy for that. 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:50.520 We got a guy for that. Who can do? Can 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:53.120 he do what I'm doing? Can he step into my shoes? Now? 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:55.880 There's many people that can do that thing and I 0:07:55.960 --> 0:07:58.160 and I wish them all the luck and success. But 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:00.640 my thing only I can do my own head. My 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:04.880 thing is too just. You know, you probably splashed a 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:07.160 lot of water in your face? Is smart? Shoot? You 0:08:07.320 --> 0:08:10.440 splashing an inordinate amount of really brisk water. It's almost 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:14.160 always three splashes. I'm trying. I'm feeling eight or nine 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:16.480 splashes will went on this morning because you're loaded for bear. 0:08:17.000 --> 0:08:19.440 We're like in a deposition here. I love talking with you. 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:23.880 You know that. I love talking with you. Okay, so um? 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:27.840 Who makes it in comedy? Who are the ones that 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:30.160 make it? And it's a change in your lifetime? What 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:32.720 does it take in show business? Let's answer that question, 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:34.600 because I haven't. I'll tell you who's in show business? 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:37.000 You know it's in show business? And who wants to 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:41.080 be more than anyone else. Those are the people that 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:43.480 are in it, the people that just go, I want 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:45.760 to be in it. I'm going to be in it. 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:49.720 Do I have the skill set? Do I have a talent? 0:08:49.840 --> 0:08:52.280 I have something to offer. We'll find out or not. 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:54.880 But it doesn't I may not take on that with 0:08:54.920 --> 0:08:56.640 between Puccino. I said to him, what do you do 0:08:56.720 --> 0:08:59.360 when you do a movie and the other person isn't 0:08:59.400 --> 0:09:01.760 that good? Like you're doing a scene and I said, 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:03.400 you go up to the director and give them notes, 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:06.160 say tell them this other And said, no, I never 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:09.920 do that. I never do that. No, no, no, I said, 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:11.400 I said, what do you do? I? I said, what 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:12.680 do you do when the people that you're working with 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:15.120 they just I mean, you're so talented, and it's like 0:09:15.160 --> 0:09:16.719 tennis and you're and you're and you're hitting the ball 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:18.600 with some and they're not that talented. And he said, 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:21.320 I like a like all of us in the business 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:25.640 are talented. Everybody's talented. Some of us are just more 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:29.680 talented than others. But everybody in the room when you're working, 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:31.959 they've got some kind of time. Like you'd say, he 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:36.400 has a talented for storytelling. He had a talent for 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:40.080 this but you're saying that people who determination is a 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:42.600 big part of it. I'm saying it's most of the 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:47.040 people we see in in the arts are there not 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:51.440 because they had the most to offer, but because they 0:09:51.760 --> 0:09:55.079 wanted to be there the most, you believe. So when 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:58.079 you're in clubs in your early years and you'd see 0:09:58.120 --> 0:10:00.719 people who were working, did you have an did you not? 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:02.400 Not that you cared about this or you were focused 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:05.040 on this, but would you sometimes because my friends who 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:07.000 were in clubs and there were comics, there was a 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:09.040 lot of evaluating of each other in the competition. It 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:11.360 was very competitive. And would you look at people and say, 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:13.040 I think he's got it or she's got and they're 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:14.840 going to make it and they don't or this one doesn't. 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:17.120 And and a big part of your saying is just 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:19.880 the drive. They just they want it. They're a dog 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:23.560 on a bone. You see a lot of that, don't 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:25.120 you think? I think so well? In the in the 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:28.040 movie business, you can see people who they put it 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:31.280 before everything else, you know, I mean, they're not what business? 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:35.839 What what field of endeavor has the highest bullshit factor? Right? 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:40.480 In your opinion? Um, because you've been in a number 0:10:40.480 --> 0:10:45.400 of different branches. Now, well, I think, well, obviously a 0:10:45.559 --> 0:10:50.320 government is then I think entertainment. Did you enjoy the 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:56.400 Anthony Weiner show this season or not the show that 0:10:57.000 --> 0:11:00.480 you put on for us when when that was going on? 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:03.760 Did you were you disgusted? Were you going? I love this? 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:06.439 I I loved it because to me it was the 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:09.199 visible man. Let's take off the face of the clock 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:11.880 and watch the gears. And that's what that was. This 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:14.960 is you know, we're talking about people our ownership show 0:11:15.000 --> 0:11:19.160 business because they want to be He wants to have power. 0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:21.600 He just wants it. He wants and most of most 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:25.360 of them have all the guyses and veils and and 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:27.640 you know policy, well they pretend that what you just 0:11:27.679 --> 0:11:29.360 hit on a very important point, which is that they 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:32.520 pretend to some degree that it's selfless. That well that also, yeah, 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:35.160 that that they don't crave power. But but the other 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:39.000 thing about Weener that I found unusual. I mean, listen, 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:41.160 this is I'm not going to say anything. I don't 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:43.520 think I'm capable of saying anything that hasn't been said before. 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:46.640 But the idea that you want to take pictures of 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:49.280 your genitalia and send it to women that you barely know. 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:52.160 I wonder if there's an unconscious part of him that's like, 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:55.680 I'm gonna send pictures of my genitalia to a couple 0:11:55.720 --> 0:11:57.720 of women who I don't even know that well, and 0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:00.000 let's see what happens. Let's let's roll the dice here. 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:04.360 I'm putting all my chips on black. I'm all in. 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:07.360 I got another pile, and I'm all in on sending 0:12:07.440 --> 0:12:10.640 this chicken picture of my you know what of my personality? 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:14.760 I don't have that desire, right, I'm not must exacts. 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:18.280 It's easier to understand than his get off was. Ding. 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:22.480 He looks at the phone. Ding, let's it just press send. 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:27.160 Where where's the thrill? Everybody has as some component of 0:12:27.200 --> 0:12:29.680 them for what I call negative excitement, Like what's your thing? 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:33.160 You want to do that that you indulge some weakness 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:35.200 of yours? You know what I mean? Some people have 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:40.520 food issues, they have drinking mine it would be yours. Uh, 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:43.960 I don't think I have I mean beyond tomato sauce. Maybe, 0:12:44.040 --> 0:12:48.320 I mean, yeah, that's not that night. Yeah you are. 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:51.200 And for people who don't know you see, this is 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:54.560 the thing that that in all honesty, I always when 0:12:54.600 --> 0:12:57.120 I think about you. The list of things I think 0:12:57.160 --> 0:13:01.480 about is is how not just professional and committed in 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:04.000 all those other kind of lame were you know, lazier words, 0:13:04.400 --> 0:13:08.240 but how you know, just just focused and hard working. 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:10.319 You are like a lot of people look at you 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:12.640 and view you as someone who is but let's be 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:16.000 very candid, you're someone people people view you as someone 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:19.480 who is this incredibly gifted person. I love this show, right, 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:21.240 I know you are. But the point is that you 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:25.520 like you don't work, like you do things like like 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:27.960 you going on on a trip to go do some gigs. 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:30.200 It's kind of a thing. You're probably just doing a 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:34.320 favor for someone. I think that's more you. I don't 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:36.960 think that's the general perception. I think that's you. I 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:41.920 think your image of me or what you think. Yeah, 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:44.440 I think that's your sense I'm projecting. Yeah, I think 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:47.520 you're projecting. But you know that that's not mad. No, no, 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:49.600 not at all. You know that I love to work. 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:55.000 You're incredibly so, but but not um, I'm not driven 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:58.880 by anything very healthy healthy, I'm not driven by anything unwholesome. 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:03.120 But you're healthier. You are healthier than anybody else I've 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:06.560 ever met in your professional everybody else I've met in 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:09.440 your profession, it was you could do Saturday Night Live 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:11.880 and be roaming the hallways of that building. Yeah, for 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:14.160 over the course of you know, it's really more like 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:16.520 four days, not a full week, and you're around them 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:19.320 other people. I did a sitcom with other people. I've 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:21.200 been around a lot of people who make their living 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:23.800 in comedy. I made films with them, and some of them, 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:26.200 you'd be around them, you know, within ten minutes you 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:30.040 understood what was really their deepest problem that they hadn't resolved. 0:14:30.400 --> 0:14:32.680 Some of them took a question a few days. You 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:35.800 don't have any problems, No, I don't, but I do 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:40.640 relate very deeply to to all of those people. In fact, 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:42.320 I was watching the Emmys. Is the only part of 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:44.520 the Emmys that I like when they do the Comedy 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:48.760 Writing Award and each comedy writing staff puts up funny pictures, 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:51.320 and then when the the actual staff comes up on 0:14:51.360 --> 0:14:55.000 the stage and you see these gnome like cretans just 0:14:55.200 --> 0:14:59.440 kind of all misshapen, and and I go, this is me, 0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:04.200 this who I am? This is that's my group people? Yeah, 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:09.520 but you yeah, do you see that in me? Okay? Well, 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:12.120 then you've learned something here today. What did I learn? 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:17.080 You learned that despite maybe I am healthy and somewhat functional, 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:21.400 but I can I see myself as one of those 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:25.680 guys that that that that group of Colbert Report writers 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:29.920 that are just it looks like we would never let 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:33.640 them speak Colbert mustis. Now those that's where I want 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:38.000 to hang out with those guys. You do, Yeah, like Barry, Yeah, yeah, 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:40.760 you're more comfortable with the Berries of I'm only comfortable, 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:47.280 only comfortable with those people. Really, Yeah, describe Berry. You 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:50.040 have a special relation. Sherry Martyr is my very special friend. 0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:52.760 Barry is the author of the Letters from a Nutbook 0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:56.680 under the nom de plume ted L Nancy, and he 0:15:56.880 --> 0:16:04.160 is um. He's also fascinating, a compilation of function and dysfunction, 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:09.360 which any interesting person is. Um. He's a guy who's 0:16:09.640 --> 0:16:11.840 what I love about Barries. I can call him right now, 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:14.160 it's even thirty that he will just say hello. He's 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:17.960 always there, always at home. He's got a red couch. 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:22.200 His living room looks like a murder scene. This you know, uh, 0:16:23.440 --> 0:16:27.960 very scary looking stains on a white rug. Lives into 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:32.560 Lucca Lake to Luca Lake and we talk every day, 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:37.160 usually an hour on a good day, two hours. And um, 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:44.280 we're talking yesterday about chantics, the quit smoking drug commercial 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:48.040 where they list the side effects and one of the 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:51.840 ones that the people have experienced with chantics is weird dreams. 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:56.000 And now we're trying to figure out, well, what's a 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:59.480 weird dream? And do they have a hotline that you 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:01.160 can call. I was like, Bob, I got a guy 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:04.280 here's you know, woke up. He dreamt he had orangutang feet. 0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:08.200 Is that weird? And he goes, no, I've had that one. 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:12.960 You know, that's that's not weird. Who who doesn't have 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:17.800 weird dreams? There's no dream, it's not weird exactly. It's 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:19.680 to be done to I had a dream last night. 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:21.280 It's funny to say that because I don't dream. Do 0:17:21.320 --> 0:17:24.119 you dream? Or you a dreamer? Everyone dreams like I 0:17:24.119 --> 0:17:27.760 don't remember my dreams very rarely. You're a good sleeper, yeah, 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:31.280 because the super healthy man that you are, that man, 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:33.520 the water, the revel e, the up in the morning. 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:36.520 I don't want a cat pour around. That man sleeps well. 0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:39.560 He sleeps well. Yeah, because I I have and you 0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:43.240 lay down in your things to people have nothing to 0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:47.520 keep me up? Is that? What is that? I don't 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:49.080 think I do bad things to people. You know, in 0:17:49.119 --> 0:17:51.280 the Jewish religion, we have a day to day of atonement. 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:53.639 It's your homem kipper when you think of the things 0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:56.879 that you did during the year, uh, and you repent. 0:17:57.520 --> 0:17:59.639 So when you so for you, that's a very short, 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:04.320 almost like a moment. Yeah, exactly. You walked down the street, 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:05.760 you kind of looked down at the crack of the 0:18:05.800 --> 0:18:07.880 cyber food and counter three and go, okay, I'm done. 0:18:08.000 --> 0:18:11.040 I don't you thought I did. I did snap at 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:13.320 that woman when she spilled the coffee on my I 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:14.920 would never do that. You would never do that. No, 0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:19.639 I would never snap at somebody. Never, never. Never. I 0:18:19.640 --> 0:18:21.919 wish I could say the same thing. I have snapped 0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:23.960 at some people in my life. But a certain breat 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:26.520 of people people I thought were nothing gets to me 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:33.200 more upset than than you paying attention to those. Yeah, 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:35.760 I don't like that. I do have because you're one 0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:38.399 of the great entertainers that I try to glorify and 0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:40.080 call it like I have like a Bruce Wayne syndrome. 0:18:40.119 --> 0:18:41.800 I gotta put that cape on, I gotta get the door, 0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:45.359 and I gotta straighten these people out. Um, you talked 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:47.240 to him for an hour or two hours? Is it? 0:18:47.400 --> 0:18:51.160 Is it a therapy for you? Yes, because your therapy. Yes, 0:18:51.320 --> 0:18:56.919 because we don't talk about anything important, no agenda, and 0:18:56.960 --> 0:18:58.840 we could just go on board of this and then 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:01.040 it just and just change the suff You don't even 0:19:01.080 --> 0:19:02.720 say on board of this. I'll just change the subject. 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:04.920 You just are on the same frequency, the two of you. Yeah, 0:19:05.119 --> 0:19:10.199 we love the sipping coffee and allowedly you know on 0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:21.359 the phone, you know this, this sounds. I like to 0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:27.320 tighten my tour to get back to Barry because I 0:19:27.320 --> 0:19:28.919 have a friend like that, my friend Ronnie Dopson. No, 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:30.479 but I find that we all have to have a 0:19:30.520 --> 0:19:33.880 person who is that kind of a soulmate. You can 0:19:33.920 --> 0:19:36.439 really talk. And it's interesting that it's a guy like 0:19:36.560 --> 0:19:40.200 my wife. Now it's very close to that. I mean, 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:43.439 I can tell her anything, I can say anything. I 0:19:43.440 --> 0:19:45.480 can say anything, and she'll look at me and she 0:19:45.640 --> 0:19:47.800 and there will be some judgment. Because all women want 0:19:47.840 --> 0:19:50.000 to fix the man. Therewith. I want to think that 0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:53.119 they have some that they're they have some kind of 0:19:53.840 --> 0:19:57.600 supervisory function in our lives. I've learned to have my wife, 0:19:58.080 --> 0:20:00.919 take my inventory, R tell me what's really going on, 0:20:01.320 --> 0:20:03.880 show me what I'm missing about myself. See what you're 0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:05.960 not seeing is? And now what I do is I 0:20:05.960 --> 0:20:07.320 sit there and I go, first of all, I go 0:20:07.440 --> 0:20:13.800 like this, and let's just say, are you listening to me? 0:20:13.800 --> 0:20:16.879 I'm like, yes, I'm every word. I agree with you. 0:20:16.880 --> 0:20:19.760 You're totally right. I do do that. It's wrong, it's wrong, 0:20:19.840 --> 0:20:22.159 and I really need to thank you. I need to 0:20:22.200 --> 0:20:24.320 look at that more closely than if you're bringing that. 0:20:24.600 --> 0:20:27.359 I call Ronnie, who's my berry? There's none of that, 0:20:28.280 --> 0:20:31.359 there's no there's no judgment, there's no supervisory function. Is 0:20:31.359 --> 0:20:34.520 that the way it is with Barry Um? If I 0:20:34.600 --> 0:20:38.639 ask for it, I will often I will ask him, 0:20:37.680 --> 0:20:42.040 uh the most challenging questions of life to me? And 0:20:42.160 --> 0:20:46.639 he work related, work related, personal. You know, you know, 0:20:47.000 --> 0:20:51.000 almost every call we have it's why are we what 0:20:51.040 --> 0:20:52.800 are we doing? Why are we here? Why are we 0:20:52.840 --> 0:20:57.360 even alive? And he's give me an answer. He'll give 0:20:57.400 --> 0:20:59.400 me an answer. What does he say, why are we alive? 0:20:59.440 --> 0:21:06.520 According to Um, he would probably say, um to sit 0:21:06.640 --> 0:21:09.960 on the stained sofa into Luca Lake and think the 0:21:10.000 --> 0:21:13.520 great thoughts. Yeah, that's right, to laugh, to have fun, 0:21:14.280 --> 0:21:29.520 to enjoy ourselves. Yeah, to enjoy ourselves happy. Yeah. Jerry 0:21:29.560 --> 0:21:32.679 spends his days doing just that. And when he's not 0:21:32.760 --> 0:21:36.800 laughing himself, he's creating material to make others laugh. But 0:21:36.920 --> 0:21:39.800 even for Seinfeld, one of the greatest stand ups of 0:21:39.840 --> 0:21:43.879 all time, some audiences are harder than others. My wife 0:21:43.920 --> 0:21:47.360 will laugh, but at this point, fifteen years in, it's 0:21:47.400 --> 0:21:50.800 that golf shot that you hit perfect in it. It's 0:21:50.800 --> 0:21:56.000 got to be a perfect the wedge. Yeah, that, and 0:21:56.080 --> 0:21:58.760 she will burst out laughing. So I gotta it's gotta 0:21:58.800 --> 0:22:18.879 be a good one, and that's fine. Coming up, Jerry 0:22:18.880 --> 0:22:21.800 Seinfeld talks about the family he grew up with and 0:22:21.880 --> 0:22:24.879 the family he lives with today. He has three kids. 0:22:37.560 --> 0:22:40.720 Here's the thing. Take a listen to our archive where 0:22:40.760 --> 0:22:43.439 you can hear other comedians like Kristen Wigg, who, like 0:22:43.600 --> 0:22:47.240 Jerry Seinfeld, follows her gut when it comes to her career. 0:22:47.520 --> 0:22:50.840 I don't like the word goal because I feel like 0:22:51.920 --> 0:22:54.680 those are always changing for me. You don't like I 0:22:54.720 --> 0:22:58.119 don't like having gold. That's why, you know, do what 0:22:58.160 --> 0:23:00.560 I do? I don't know. I want to erect, I 0:23:00.640 --> 0:23:04.480 want to live in Paris and paint. I want to 0:23:04.520 --> 0:23:06.240 do like I don't know. I want to do a 0:23:06.280 --> 0:23:10.560 lot of different things. Seriously, Yeah, I live in Paris, 0:23:09.840 --> 0:23:13.240 and I don't know. You'd let Paris for about two months? 0:23:13.640 --> 0:23:15.720 Well maybe, but then I live in Paris for two months. 0:23:17.200 --> 0:23:30.680 Take a listen and here's the thing dot Org. This 0:23:30.760 --> 0:23:33.480 is Alec Baldwin and you're listening to Here's the Thing. 0:23:34.280 --> 0:23:38.760 On the TV show, Seinfeld, Jerry, Elaine Cramer, and George 0:23:39.080 --> 0:23:43.760 were characters driven largely by unabashed self interest. Come on, 0:23:43.840 --> 0:23:45.240 let's go do something. I don't want to just sit 0:23:45.280 --> 0:23:47.640