Speaker 1: On Monday, November twenty fifth, nineteen sixty three, President Kennedy
Speaker 1: was laid to rest in Arlington National Cemetery at the
Speaker 1: First Lady's request. The ceremony followed the same protocols for
Speaker 1: Abraham Lincoln's funeral nearly one hundred years earlier. The flag
Speaker 1: drape casket was drawn by six gray horses. It was
Speaker 1: followed by one riderless black horse. Crowds line Pennsylvania Avenue
Speaker 1: as the procession passed, Only the sounds of the drums
Speaker 1: and the clacking of horses hoofs on the pavement could
Speaker 1: be heard. I'll never forget the rhythm bum bum bum
Speaker 1: bump up bup bum bum bum bup up up bum
Speaker 1: bum bum bump bup, bup bum bum bum bum. Missus Kennedy,
Speaker 1: surrounded by family, friends, official dignitaries, and a military escort,
Speaker 1: walked to Saint Matthew's Cathedral for the service. Heads of
Speaker 1: state and representatives from more than one hundred countries attended
Speaker 1: the funeral. Millions of people around the world tuned in
Speaker 1: to watch on television. After the service, the president's remains
Speaker 1: were laid to rest at Arlington Memorial Cemetery, where Missus
Speaker 1: Kennedy lit an eternal flame. Two hundred and fifty thousand
Speaker 1: people waited up to ten hours in freezing temperatures to
Speaker 1: pay their respects. The nation was in mourning at virtually
Speaker 1: the same time, Lee Harvey Oswald, who had been murdered
Speaker 1: twenty four hours earlier on live television by nightclub owner
Speaker 1: Jack Ruby, was also being put to rest. Along with
Speaker 1: Oswald's remains, secrets were buried.
Speaker 2: This is who killed JFK. Sixty years later? What can
Speaker 2: we uncover about the greatest murder mystery in American history?
Speaker 2: And why does it still matter today? I'm your host,
Speaker 2: Solidad O'Brien.
Speaker 1: We've shown evidence that indicates that at the time of
Speaker 1: the shooting, Oswald was not on the sixth floor of
Speaker 1: the Texas school Book Depository building. He seemed to know
Speaker 1: that he was part of something, but likely didn't know
Speaker 1: exactly what it was. But when he heard that the
Speaker 1: president had been shot, he realized at that point that
Speaker 1: he was in danger. He fled the scene, and he
Speaker 1: was ultimately arrested at the Texas Movie Theater. At the
Speaker 1: Dallas police station, he claimed his innocence when he spoke
Speaker 1: this phrase, I'm just a Patsy. Within forty eight hours
Speaker 1: of his arrest, Jack Ruby saw to it that Lee
Speaker 1: Harvey Oswald would never speak again. A year later, the
Speaker 1: Warren Commission report was released to the public. It set
Speaker 1: out with goal of pinning it all on Oswald, and
Speaker 1: it did. They wanted him to look like a lone gunman.
Speaker 1: Here's what they had to say about Jack Ruby.
Speaker 2: The Warren Commission report says, quote, no direct or indirect
Speaker 2: relationship between Lee Harvey Oswald and Jack Ruby has been
Speaker 2: discovered by the Commission, nor has it been able to
Speaker 2: find any credible evidence that either knew the other. The
Speaker 2: Commission has found no evidence that Jack Ruby acted with
Speaker 2: any other person in the killing of Lee Harvey Oswald.
Speaker 1: And they took Ruby at his word when he told
Speaker 1: them that he had killed Oswald out of sympathy for Jackie.
Speaker 1: He wanted to spare her the pain of having to
Speaker 1: return to Dallas for a trial.
Speaker 2: That seems just a bit absurd as an excuse.
Speaker 1: Yes it does, but it wasn't all that Jack Ruby
Speaker 1: had to say. He said something to his jailer after
Speaker 1: being arrested for killing Oswald, and it speaks to some
Speaker 1: something much much bigger. Solo, Dad, Could you read this?
Speaker 2: Sure quote? Now they're going to find out about Cuba,
Speaker 2: the guns, New Orleans and everything.
Speaker 1: Ruby was concerned that his connection to the CIA funded
Speaker 1: anti castro operations would be uncovered.
Speaker 2: How exactly is a guy like Jack Ruby connected to
Speaker 2: what's happening in Cuba and New Orleans.
Speaker 1: Well to understand that, we need to understand who exactly
Speaker 1: Jack Ruby was. Jack Ruby was born in Chicago. He
Speaker 1: was born Jacob Leon Rubinstein. At eleven, he was arrested
Speaker 1: for truancy. He spent time in foster homes. He dropped
Speaker 1: out of school and eventually joined the Teamsters Union. After
Speaker 1: serving in World War Two, he moved to Dallas. He
Speaker 1: changed his name to Jack Ruby, and he started managing
Speaker 1: nightclubs and strip joints around town.
Speaker 3: There's evidence he also became involved in narcotics, prostitution, and
Speaker 3: obviously these are all businesses that are connected to the mob.
Speaker 1: The Dallas County Sheriff, Steve Guthrie told the FBI that
Speaker 1: he believed quote Ruby operated some prostitution activities and other
Speaker 1: vices in his club. He was cozy with the Dallas police.
Speaker 1: Officers would come into his club and he'd give them
Speaker 1: free booze, and he'd make sure that the women paid
Speaker 1: proper attention.
Speaker 2: Hum quite the host.
Speaker 1: Along with running his clubs, Ruby became involved in running
Speaker 1: guns for the mob.
Speaker 2: A friend of Ruby's named James E. Baird spoke to
Speaker 2: the Dallas Morning News and testified to the FBI saying
Speaker 2: that Jack Ruby quote stored guns and ammunition in a
Speaker 2: two story house between the waterfront and the railroad tracks
Speaker 2: in Kema, Texas. Baird personally saw Ruby and his associates
Speaker 2: load quote many boxes of new guns, including automatic rifles
Speaker 2: and handguns. Where exactly was he running these guns too?
Speaker 1: Cuba. In September nineteen fifty nine, Ruby traveled to Havana
Speaker 1: as a guest of a close friend named Louis J. Mcwilly.
Speaker 1: Before Castro took over, Florida, mob boss Santos Traficanti chose
Speaker 1: mcwilly to run his casino in Havana, and after Castro
Speaker 1: came to power, mcwilly was arrested and thrown out of
Speaker 1: the country. Back in the US, mcwilly was hired by Meyer, Lanski,
Speaker 1: and Sam Giancana to run their casinos in Las Vegas.
Speaker 3: Five days before Kennedy was gunned down in Dallas. Ruby
Speaker 3: was seen at the Thunderbird in Vegas with mcwilly.
Speaker 1: You know, people often get lost in the semantics of
Speaker 1: whether or not Ruby was a mobster. Well, he wasn't
Speaker 1: a made man himself, but he had clear connections to
Speaker 1: the mob It's the world he grew up in and
Speaker 1: the world he operated from in Dallas. They say you
Speaker 1: can tell a lot about a person by the company
Speaker 1: they keep. The House Select Committee looked at Ruby's phone
Speaker 1: records in the days leading up to November twenty second,
Speaker 1: and they discovered that he had made numerous phone calls
Speaker 1: to known mobsters.
Speaker 3: Their report showed that weeks prior to the assassination, Ruby
Speaker 3: made approximately one hundred and twenty calls to mobsters associated
Speaker 3: with Sam g and Kanna and Carlos Marcello.
Speaker 2: So how does this relate back to Oswald.
Speaker 1: Well, just like we saw an uptick in activity around
Speaker 1: Oswald leading up to the assassination, the same was true
Speaker 1: of Ruby. Ruby and Oswald operated in the same sphere.
Speaker 1: So it should come as no surprise when I tell
Speaker 1: you that, contrary to the Warrant Commission's conclusion that there
Speaker 1: was no direct or indirect relationship between Lee Harvey Oswald
Speaker 1: and Jack Ruby. There is plenty of evidence that the
Speaker 1: two some of them knew each other. How do we
Speaker 1: know that, Well, there are eyewitnesses who talked on the
Speaker 1: record about Ruby and Oswald's relationship.
Speaker 3: Dorothy Markham, a woman who dated Ruby, told the FBI
Speaker 3: that Oswald worked for Ruby during June and July. Clyde
Speaker 3: Malcolm Limbaugh, who worked for Ruby for three years, said
Speaker 3: he saw Oswald in Ruby's office on several occasions. Helen K. Smith,
Speaker 3: who worked at the Carousel Club, told the Dallas Police
Speaker 3: that she saw Ruby and Oswald together on many occasions.
Speaker 3: And Robert Roy, Ruby's auto mechanic, said that Oswald used
Speaker 3: to drop off Ruby's car for repairs.
Speaker 1: And then there's Sharry Angel, one of the most popular
Speaker 1: strippers at Ruby's club. Dick interviewed her years ago.
Speaker 3: I heard that you remember Oswald being in the club
Speaker 3: as well. Yeah, what do you remember about that.
Speaker 2: Nancy carrying twist been hitting ruin town?
Speaker 4: Got my husband of communist, called your husband a common
Speaker 4: for an audience.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you miss that. She said that she remembers
Speaker 1: Oswald doing the twist with a woman named Kathy k
Speaker 1: and her husband hitting him because Oswald called him a communist.
Speaker 3: So Oswald and Ruby definitely knew each other in the
Speaker 3: club before it happened.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: And none of those witnesses testified to the Warren Commission.
Speaker 1: None. And it wasn't until seven months after he killed
Speaker 1: Oswald that Ruby was even interviewed by the Commission. And
Speaker 1: what he said and didn't get to say will shock you.
Speaker 2: Why did the Warren Commission wait so long to interview
Speaker 2: Jack Ruby? How was he not at the top of
Speaker 2: the list?
Speaker 1: You tell me? Before being interviewed by the Commission, Ruby
Speaker 1: insisted on taking a lie detector test.
Speaker 2: In the Warren Commission report, it says that quote as
Speaker 2: early as December of nineteen sixty three, Jack Ruby expressed
Speaker 2: his desire to be examined with a polygraph, truth serum
Speaker 2: or any other scientific device which would test his veracity.
Speaker 2: And did they give him one?
Speaker 1: Well, no, not at first. Eventually they did.
Speaker 2: What did it show?
Speaker 1: The Warren Commission said that they found it inconclusive.
Speaker 2: What does inconclusive mean?
Speaker 1: Well, they said that they couldn't verify the answers as
Speaker 1: true or false based on concerns they had over Ruby's
Speaker 1: mental state it was an excuse that they used for
Speaker 1: other witnesses that didn't perfectly fit into the predetermined narrative.
Speaker 1: Ruby was frustrated, and when the war report came out,
Speaker 1: this is what he said to the press.
Speaker 2: Ruby said, quote, the Warren Report never gave me the
Speaker 2: true authentity when I requested a polygraph test. He then
Speaker 2: goes on to say, why they held back the answers
Speaker 2: the results, whether they're true or false, that's for you
Speaker 2: to find out. That's for you to find out. That's
Speaker 2: pretty ominous.
Speaker 1: I think he wanted to tell the truth about why
Speaker 1: he killed Oswald, but he knew that his life would
Speaker 1: be in danger if he did so. Ruby told the
Speaker 1: Warren Commission that if they got him out of Dallas,
Speaker 1: he would tell them everything he knew.
Speaker 2: He would tell them everything. Kind of can't get more
Speaker 2: loaded than that.
Speaker 1: No, no, you can't. And he said, quote, gentlemen, unless
Speaker 1: you take me to Washington, you can't get a fair
Speaker 1: shake out of me. If you want to hear any
Speaker 1: further testimony out of me, you'll have to get me
Speaker 1: to Washington soon. I want to tell the truth, and
Speaker 1: I can't tell it here. This isn't the place for
Speaker 1: me to tell you what I want to tell.
Speaker 2: Did they take him to DC?
Speaker 1: He never left Dallas.
Speaker 3: After he was denied his trip to Washington. Ruby said quote,
Speaker 3: I may not live tomorrow to give any further testimony.
Speaker 3: I want to get out to the public, and I
Speaker 3: can't say it here.
Speaker 2: Why couldn't he speak in Dallas? Why do you think
Speaker 2: he wanted to move so badly?
Speaker 1: He was terrified for his life, He said, quote, I
Speaker 1: tell you, gentlemen, my whole family is in jeopardy. He
Speaker 1: didn't want to end up like George de Mornshield, who
Speaker 1: mysteriously died the day he was subpoenaed to testify to
Speaker 1: the House Select Committee, or Johnny Roselli, who was found
Speaker 1: chopped up and stuffed in an oil drum right before
Speaker 1: he was supposed to appear before the committee, or Richard K. Snagel,
Speaker 1: who died the day he received a subpoena to testify
Speaker 1: to the Assassination Record's Review Board.
Speaker 3: Here is how Robert Blakey, head of the House Select
Speaker 3: Committee on Assassinations, interpreted Ruby's remarks.
Speaker 2: Blakey said, quote, Ruby, I was trying to tell the
Speaker 2: truth about the conspiracy he knew existed, but he feared
Speaker 2: for his life. You'll remember that Robert Blakey had a
Speaker 2: background in targeting organized crime.
Speaker 4: No Mah kills witnesses who are potential people who can
Speaker 4: tell the true story. And that's the reason I think
Speaker 4: Jack Ruby shortly Harvey Osweoll.
Speaker 1: From the time Kennedy was shot and killed until he
Speaker 1: himself was shot and killed, Oswald was in custody for
Speaker 1: just under forty eight hours. Here's a transcript from a
Speaker 1: press conference during that period. Sola ed, could you read.
Speaker 2: This sure, reporter, did you kill the President Oswald? No, sir,
Speaker 2: I didn't. People keep asking me that, reporter, did you
Speaker 2: shoot the President Oswald? I work in that building? Reporter?
Speaker 2: Were you in the building at the time? Oswald? Naturally
Speaker 2: if I work in that building, yes, sir, reporter, did
Speaker 2: you shoot the President Oswald?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: They are taking me in because of the fact that
Speaker 2: I lived in the Soviet Union. I'm just a patsy.
Speaker 2: It's remarkable that he's just out there fending for himself. Usually,
Speaker 2: you know, in any press conference with a suspected criminal,
Speaker 2: their lawyer would speak for them.
Speaker 3: Oswald was never granted a lawyer.
Speaker 2: Did he get to make any phone calls?
Speaker 1: He called Marina at Ruth Paynes, and there's evidence that
Speaker 1: he made one other call and it's significant. He placed
Speaker 1: a call to a military counter intelligence officer in North
Speaker 1: Carolina named John Hurt. And how do we know that
Speaker 1: because there's a receipt showing that the operator placed the call.
Speaker 1: The switchboard operators who placed long distance calls for people
Speaker 1: inside the jail were required to fill out a slip.
Speaker 1: A researcher found the slip with the date eleven twenty
Speaker 1: three sixty three and John Hurt's name and telephone number.
Speaker 1: The woman working the switchboard evening said that the call
Speaker 1: was never answered and that the two men in suits
Speaker 1: that were in the room likely made sure that the
Speaker 1: call never went through.
Speaker 3: Researchers found John Hurd decades later to ask him about
Speaker 3: the call. He claimed he never knew Oswald and was
Speaker 3: completely unaware that Oswald had tried to call him, But
Speaker 3: he also didn't share the fact that he was military counterintelligence.
Speaker 2: What do you think he was hoping to accomplish with
Speaker 2: the call? If he actually got Hurt on the line,
Speaker 2: it was likely, and.
Speaker 3: This process has been confirmed by XCIA agents, that Oswald
Speaker 3: was trying to reach a cutout a go between to
Speaker 3: get a message to his case officer. He was going
Speaker 3: through a process designed for people on intelligence missions to
Speaker 3: get help, but since the call was never put through,
Speaker 3: Oswald was hung out to dry.
Speaker 1: In another press conference at the police station, a reporter
Speaker 1: asks did you kill the president? And Oswald says, quote, no,
Speaker 1: I have not been charged with that. In fact, nobody
Speaker 1: has said that to me yet. The reporter then tells Oswald,
Speaker 1: you have been charged, and Oswald is absolutely stunned.
Speaker 2: In the televised report of this moment, you can really
Speaker 2: see his shock reaction to this in real time.
Speaker 1: He's realizing the implications of it all, that this horrific
Speaker 1: crime is going to be pinned on him. And again,
Speaker 1: he didn't just say that he was innocent. He said
Speaker 1: he was a patsy. He knew that the men responsible
Speaker 1: for this had used him. That's why from the moment
Speaker 1: Oswald is brought to the police station, Jack Ruby starts
Speaker 1: to stalk him. Ruby's movements just before he kills Oswald
Speaker 1: show that this was not a spontaneous emotional decision. Ruby
Speaker 1: was part of something much bigger. Jack Ruby showed up
Speaker 1: at the police station at least twice before he found
Speaker 1: the opportunity on his third visit to take Oswald out.
Speaker 1: He was there during a press conference.
Speaker 3: At DA Henry Wade's press conference when Wade mistakenly identified
Speaker 3: Oswald as a member of the anti Castro Free Cuba Committee.
Speaker 3: Ruby corrected the DA saying, quote, no, sir, mister District Attorney,
Speaker 3: Oswald was a member of the Fair Play for Cuba Committee.
Speaker 1: None of the press, or police or FBI there caught
Speaker 1: the DA's mistake, but nightclub owner Jack Ruby did. It's
Speaker 1: just so bizarre. First of all, why is a nightclub
Speaker 1: owner at this press conference to begin with? And second,
Speaker 1: how does he know the difference between the Free Cuba
Speaker 1: and the Fair Play for Cuba Committee?
Speaker 2: So what exactly is the implication there.
Speaker 3: That Ruby knew all about Oswald.
Speaker 1: We spoke with a man named John Currington about the
Speaker 1: time leading up to Oswald's death. Now, John Currington, for
Speaker 1: years was the right hand man for oil Baron hl Hunt.
Speaker 1: Hunt was one of the richest men in America, with
Speaker 1: influence at the highest levels of government and the mafia.
Speaker 1: Now Here is John Carrington talking about a call he
Speaker 1: received on Saturday, November twenty third from hl Hunt.
Speaker 5: He called me about four or five Clark and asked
Speaker 5: me to go down to the police station and check
Speaker 5: on what security, if any, there was around Lee Harvey
Speaker 5: orwoll And he said, whenever you find out what I
Speaker 5: won't know about security, come to the house.
Speaker 1: So what did you find?
Speaker 5: I go down to police station and I had no
Speaker 5: trouble walking in walking out. I did have a briefcase
Speaker 5: with me. Nobody looked in that brafcase and I was
Speaker 5: satisfied that there was no security or whatsoever surrounding Lee
Speaker 5: Harvey ol Waldt.
Speaker 1: And why did mister Hunt ask you to check out
Speaker 1: the security situation?
Speaker 5: He wroted Lee Harvey ol wall of silence without having
Speaker 5: any kind of court here or any something else.
Speaker 1: They knew that they could easily get to oswald They
Speaker 1: just needed the right guy to handle the job, and
Speaker 1: Hunt knew just who to turn to.
Speaker 5: I went after mister Holt's house and he said, I
Speaker 5: want to get a hold of Joe Savello and have
Speaker 5: him here as early as they can Sunday morning.
Speaker 1: Joseph Ello was the head of the mob in Dallas.
Speaker 1: It's the morning of the twenty fourth, two days after
Speaker 1: the assassination at.
Speaker 3: Ten thirty five, Ira Walker, a television technician, is inside
Speaker 3: the station's news van outside the city hall. Jack Ruby
Speaker 3: comes up to the window and asks has he been
Speaker 3: brought down yet?
Speaker 1: The he is Lee Harvey Oswald. Ruby knows that Oswald
Speaker 1: is going to be moved that day, and he hangs
Speaker 1: around to make sure that he is there when it happens.
Speaker 1: At eleven seventeen, Ruby walks up an alley, passes through
Speaker 1: the crowd, and enters the ramp into the police station.
Speaker 1: Within minutes, he's positioned directly in front of Oswald and
Speaker 1: then he shoots Oswald.
Speaker 2: Here's David Talbot again.
Speaker 1: He's a mafia eron boy. That's why he killed Oswald.
Speaker 3: In the mafia was the Aeron boys for the CIA.
Speaker 3: They used the mafia to do their dirty work.
Speaker 2: And here's the head of the House Select Committee, Robert Blakey.
Speaker 4: Jack Ruby was the perfect guy to do it. Mob connected,
Speaker 4: but loosely.
Speaker 1: Ruby gave an interview in March of nineteen sixty five,
Speaker 1: a year after his conviction.
Speaker 2: In the interview, Ruby said, quote, everything pertaining to what's
Speaker 2: happening has never come to the surface. The world will
Speaker 2: never know the true facts of what occurred my motives.
Speaker 2: The people who had so much to gain and had
Speaker 2: such an ulterior motive for putting me in the position
Speaker 2: I'm in will never let the true facts come above
Speaker 2: board to the world.
Speaker 1: In nineteen sixty six, Jack Ruby died in prison, three
Speaker 1: years after the assassination of President Kennedy. He died of
Speaker 1: a pulmonary embolism caused by complications from a cancer that
Speaker 1: came on suddenly and aggressively. In the next episode, we'll
Speaker 1: lay out in detail how we think the assassination took place.
Speaker 1: We will name the shooters and give you their locations.
Speaker 1: But before we finished this episode, we need to talk
Speaker 1: about something that for the most part, has been ignored,
Speaker 1: and that's the impact that Kennedy's death had on the
Speaker 1: rest of the world.
Speaker 3: On the day of the assassination, Fidel Castro was lunch
Speaker 3: with a French reporter named Jean Danielle. Danielle reported that
Speaker 3: when Castro got word that the president had been shot,
Speaker 3: he said, sunamala noisia, this is bad news. He said
Speaker 3: it three times. Then when he got confirmation that Kennedy
Speaker 3: had died, he said, quote, everything is going to change. Then,
Speaker 3: as he processed the situation, Castro said, quote, now they
Speaker 3: will have to find the assassin quickly, but very quickly.
Speaker 3: Otherwise you watch and see, I know them. They will
Speaker 3: try to put the blame on us for this thing.
Speaker 1: Which is exactly what they did.
Speaker 2: Reports that were declassified in twenty seventeen show that the
Speaker 2: KGB held a series of emergency meetings when they heard
Speaker 2: the news. Sergei Khrushchev, Nikita's son wrote in a memoir
Speaker 2: about his father that when his father heard the news,
Speaker 2: he quote fell to his knees and sobbed. The Soviet
Speaker 2: parties knew newspaper Pravda ran a biography depicting Kennedy as
Speaker 2: a champion of peace.
Speaker 1: It's completely counterintuitive to think that the Soviets or the
Speaker 1: Cubans had anything to do with this. Kennedy was trying
Speaker 1: to forge a path towards peace with them. He was
Speaker 1: their great hope.
Speaker 2: Then who did these foreigners think?
Speaker 4: Did it?
Speaker 1: I believe that the answer to your question can be
Speaker 1: provided by French President Charles de gaull.
Speaker 3: Degall shared his thoughts about the assassination with his Information
Speaker 3: Minister Roger Parafiet, who then shared these thoughts in.
Speaker 2: His memoir Degall says, quote what happened to Kennedy is
Speaker 2: what nearly happened to me. The security forces were in
Speaker 2: cahoots with extremists. Then Paraft asked a Gaull, do you
Speaker 2: think Oswald was affront Everything leads me to believe it.
Speaker 2: De Gaull replied, they got their hands on this communist
Speaker 2: who wasn't one while still being one. He had a
Speaker 2: subpar intellect and was an exalted fanatic, just the man
Speaker 2: they needed, the perfect one to be accused. The guy
Speaker 2: ran away because he probably became suspicious. They wanted to
Speaker 2: kill him on the spot before he could be grabbed
Speaker 2: by the judicial system. Degall continued, security forces all over
Speaker 2: the world are the same when they do this kind
Speaker 2: of dirty work. As soon as they succeed in wiping
Speaker 2: out the false assassin, they declare that the justice system
Speaker 2: no longer need be concerned, that no further public action
Speaker 2: was needed now that the guilty perpetrator was dead. Better
Speaker 2: to assassinate an innocent man than to let a civil
Speaker 2: war break out. Better an injustice than disorder. Degall said,
Speaker 2: America is in danger of upheavals, but you'll see all
Speaker 2: of them together, will observe the law of silence. They
Speaker 2: will close ranks. They'll do everything to stifle any scandal,
Speaker 2: in order to not lose face in front of the
Speaker 2: whole world, in order to not risk unleashing riots in
Speaker 2: the United States, in order to preserve the Union, and
Speaker 2: to avoid a new civil war, in order to not
Speaker 2: ask themselves questions they don't want to know, they don't
Speaker 2: want to find out. They won't allow themselves to find out.
Speaker 1: De gall was right on just about all of it
Speaker 1: except one thing. I believe Americans do want to find out.
Speaker 1: We do want to know what happened, and on the
Speaker 1: next episode we're going to tell you.
Speaker 2: Next episode, Rob and Dick finally answer the question who
Speaker 2: killed JFK. I see the hallmarks or the markers of
Speaker 2: this potentially being a CIA operation that rogues would have conducted.
Speaker 1: This was the top secret facility. He was there all
Speaker 1: during that fateful weekend. RVO was a damn thing in
Speaker 1: the world. But a dicoy.
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