Speaker 1: Hello, Hello everyone. I'm Devin Simone and I'm.
Speaker 2: Anissa Ferrera and I'm back you guys.
Speaker 3: Baby, She's back.
Speaker 2: This is MTV's official Challenge podcast.
Speaker 3: Woo, Ni Mey, we missed you.
Speaker 2: I know, I know, I was away visiting friends on
Speaker 2: the West Coast and I'm back to the right coast
Speaker 2: where I belong.
Speaker 1: I love it on the East coast. Wow and wow
Speaker 1: to this episode.
Speaker 2: It was good.
Speaker 3: You know, there was a lot of things I never
Speaker 3: thought i'd see.
Speaker 1: One, Jordan and Kaz being close to Emily and Yes
Speaker 1: in this competition because I mean, Emily's an Olympic swimmer.
Speaker 3: I have so much respect for you.
Speaker 1: For two, I know she did, they both did, but Jordan,
Speaker 1: I mean, look, we we.
Speaker 3: Can't diminish this small feat that was an amazing.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is like Emily was dragged, like not
Speaker 2: dragging someone, but no Emily, Emily.
Speaker 3: No, I'm not.
Speaker 2: Gonna take anything away from Yes. Like Caz had to
Speaker 2: swim hard too, Yeah, I mean who was trying to
Speaker 2: keep up with I mean Emily set the pace, of
Speaker 2: course how fast, but of course she did.
Speaker 3: But she's an Olympian and I just think it's so imp.
Speaker 1: I just have to get crops and shout outs to
Speaker 1: like the people even remotely keeping up, because that's just
Speaker 1: mind blowing, like wow, and what an exceptional job there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I feel.
Speaker 1: Like i'd just be like, you know what, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: just get on a floaty and just float on down
Speaker 1: because like.
Speaker 2: I'll just do the just give me the try, I'll
Speaker 2: just do the puzzle. I'll gay sixteen puzzles right before
Speaker 2: I right right.
Speaker 1: And I mean I'm trying to think of anything that
Speaker 1: makes my eyes light up the way hers does when
Speaker 1: she talks about water, Like for me, I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe ice cream or like a good masseuse misogyn.
Speaker 2: Now, when I backdrop rain, I think about the rain.
Speaker 2: When I think about water, I'm like, my hair is
Speaker 2: gonna get so messed up. That's the first thing I
Speaker 2: think about having natural hair, and that water like it
Speaker 2: doesn't even like when it's humeed out alone, getting completely submerged.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, but yours are cute though fans.
Speaker 2: But they don't always get back together. That's gonna get wet. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's fair.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she didn't have to think about those things, but
Speaker 1: she really likes something. She talks about water and I
Speaker 1: aspire to light up rightfully for more things than just
Speaker 1: ice cream and massages In that same way, Can I
Speaker 1: also say something that brought me a little bit of
Speaker 1: joy in this episode Tory.
Speaker 3: And Danny getting along. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we waited for the season to go by, and
Speaker 2: maybe it's just me, Like, I know some people love
Speaker 2: their like tension, y'all are toxic, But you know, call
Speaker 2: me weird.
Speaker 1: I'm the same person who likes it when Melissa and
Speaker 1: Teresa get along. And I know that has only happened
Speaker 1: like once or twice in the last I don't know,
Speaker 1: ten eleven years, but if you know, you know. But
Speaker 1: I loved seeing them come together as a team. I
Speaker 1: think we even saw Tory kind of hug Danny when
Speaker 1: they finished. They're part of the daily Like, it's just
Speaker 1: nice for a moment to see a team like be
Speaker 1: a team, especially with two individually great people like come together.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think I think you just hug
Speaker 2: after because you made it. I mean, that's true, but
Speaker 2: I also feel like it's a very natural thing to
Speaker 2: do after, regardless of what happened before.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but we've seen all season they've been they've been.
Speaker 1: They needed divorce court Marie and.
Speaker 2: A bunch of other things. Of course, Judge Nabeling and
Speaker 2: he they needed all of that. But but it.
Speaker 1: Seems like they're coming around. Last week they voted in tandem,
Speaker 1: which was cool to see, and this week they hugged,
Speaker 1: which I think it just gives me a little joy. Now,
Speaker 1: who knows, they're probably they're probably gonna be at each
Speaker 1: other's tharts yet next week, which is take take the winds,
Speaker 1: take the winds as they come, and take the little
Speaker 1: winds as they come. All right, So, who for you
Speaker 1: and Nissa was ruler of the world this week?
Speaker 3: And who for you was on another planet?
Speaker 2: I mean clearly, clearly Emily just killed it through and
Speaker 2: through her. And yes, just like yes he kept up
Speaker 2: with an Olympian because you guys were definitely tethered together.
Speaker 2: It wasn't like you were swimming next to each other.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And forgetting that puzzled done first. I mean, both
Speaker 2: of them are amazing. Emily is amazing. Anytime she hits
Speaker 2: the water. Now on another planet, it's gotta be Jordan,
Speaker 2: because like Jordan, you know your colors, and clearly one
Speaker 2: was purple and the rest were blue, and if it
Speaker 2: were anybody else that did that, and then were his partner,
Speaker 2: who would have never heard the end of that. To
Speaker 2: see Jordan make these human errors is very humbling. I
Speaker 2: feel for him, but also to finish that that close
Speaker 2: behind I know the writer even with it's like, that's
Speaker 2: what I'm saying that even making a misteak did well
Speaker 2: still on another planet for not knowing the difference, but
Speaker 2: like he's on like a cool planet.
Speaker 1: Maybe he couldn't see it because he was going so fast,
Speaker 1: you know, it was like speedy Gonzales, so he like couldn't.
Speaker 1: It was just a blur for him because he was going,
Speaker 1: I don't know, girl, but.
Speaker 2: It was wrong. It was wrong. That was like easter lilac.
Speaker 3: It really was.
Speaker 2: They have like royal blue.
Speaker 3: They weren't even in the same color family like at all.
Speaker 2: They were. It wasn't like periwinkle and like blew something.
Speaker 2: It was. Yeah, it wasn't. Yeah, it was very but
Speaker 2: it's okay, It's okay. It was everybody makes mistakes. Think
Speaker 2: what about you.
Speaker 1: I'd say my queen or king of the world actually
Speaker 1: would have to be Jordan, because despite that mistake, I
Speaker 1: am just so impressed and Cast like I love Cast,
Speaker 1: like I she just is a vibe through and through,
Speaker 1: like everything about her is a vibe, and I love that,
Speaker 1: and I definitely think she The thing where Jordan would
Speaker 1: almost be nominated for being on another planet is just
Speaker 1: by initially his kind of dismissal of his female partner sometimes,
Speaker 1: which you know we've talked about and you being partners
Speaker 1: with him, and I didn't love how he always treated you,
Speaker 1: and not loving how he's dismissive of Cast sometimes, but
Speaker 1: it seems like he's working on it. It seems like
Speaker 1: he's working on it, so I respect that. But the
Speaker 1: way Jordan just tore up that water, I is just
Speaker 1: even with that extra lap is wild and so impressive
Speaker 1: and cas to what a wonderful team.
Speaker 3: And then the one.
Speaker 1: Who's out of this world actually isn't a person this time.
Speaker 1: It is that damn second wall. What was that when
Speaker 1: they swung into the second and I just you almost
Speaker 1: wanted to like you expected to hear a boint, like
Speaker 1: because they just bounced.
Speaker 2: It was like his his legs crashed right into the wall.
Speaker 1: Nothing happened, nothing happened, and then Casey did it and
Speaker 1: it just it was a they just nothing literally bounced
Speaker 1: off the way.
Speaker 2: I think it's where they were, where they were aiming.
Speaker 2: I think it was just less. It wasn't as structure,
Speaker 2: like in the middle, there wasn't as much support. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but you don't know that. And that was pretty close too.
Speaker 2: I mean I was I was wanted it to be
Speaker 2: a little bit closer because they love like a nail bier.
Speaker 2: But yeah, you know, I think Derell and Kiki put
Speaker 2: in a good season mm hmm. And it's a shame
Speaker 2: to see them go because I feel like that that
Speaker 2: amount of drama and like you kind of see a
Speaker 2: different side of Derell, like he's playing a little bit
Speaker 2: more of the game this season.
Speaker 3: I agree.
Speaker 2: I agree, And it's nice to see that you can
Speaker 2: see his personality more like it's always there. I just
Speaker 2: don't think it's always shown.
Speaker 3: And I can see Casey about him, but Casey too
Speaker 3: forgetting things.
Speaker 1: Yeah you yes, Casey, shit, yeah did you see at
Speaker 1: the end when she said she's like, yeah, Casey, she
Speaker 1: had her arms all glistening on there and LRDI in there.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you know Casey, you know like she's
Speaker 2: definitely you know, got dimensions to her. Sure, I just
Speaker 2: I just like how you know, people get like kind
Speaker 2: of feisty and you get to see how they are
Speaker 2: under pressure.
Speaker 1: And I'm glad people get to see it because some
Speaker 1: of the people I will say this on Reddit yep,
Speaker 1: shout out to you and Reddit have before complaining because
Speaker 1: they didn't feel like they got to see any of
Speaker 1: Casey's personality right, and they felt like, and it's true
Speaker 1: when she's been on other seeds and with other people,
Speaker 1: I think it. You know, there's so many personalities and
Speaker 1: stories to tell, you can't tell them all, and so
Speaker 1: sometimes hers gets put by the wayside. But if this
Speaker 1: week's episode was any inclination, I feel like we're gonna
Speaker 1: start to get some glimpses of the competitive Casey that's there.
Speaker 1: And I think that between that and a little bit
Speaker 1: of messy yes that we're gonna see.
Speaker 2: This is gonna be one hell You're gonna get you.
Speaker 3: Se that nickname.
Speaker 1: This is gonna be one hell of a season. I'm
Speaker 1: so here for And you guys, we have a super
Speaker 1: awesome interview duo. Okay, one of them is an Olympian
Speaker 1: and water and one of them is an Olympian of
Speaker 1: our heart. Both of them very entertaining. Their names are
Speaker 1: Yes and Emily, and they will be here right after
Speaker 1: this to give us some inside scoop on their strategy,
Speaker 1: all the things you didn't know that were going on
Speaker 1: behind the scenes, and the maneuvering. They'll be talking about
Speaker 1: that key key versus Emily Beef.
Speaker 3: Is it real?
Speaker 1: Is it not real? Is Australia united or divided? Don't
Speaker 1: go anywhere because right after this you're going to find
Speaker 1: out all of those answers and more.
Speaker 3: Stay tuned, all.
Speaker 2: Right, folks, we are at that point in the podcast
Speaker 2: where we get to interview some special people today. I
Speaker 2: want to welcome the fastest swimmer I know. I mean,
Speaker 2: I've never seen anything like it, little pocket Rocket Dolphin herself,
Speaker 2: Emily Sebam and her wonderful partner, the beloved Yes Duffy.
Speaker 5: Hello, what's happening?
Speaker 2: Hi? Friend?
Speaker 3: Wait? Having so you didn't want to call her the
Speaker 3: human seed, but you did call her a pocket rocket?
Speaker 2: Listen, want as fast and everybody loved? Just shut up.
Speaker 2: The thing is, I didn't want to call her like
Speaker 2: a seed do, which just doesn't sound as cute as
Speaker 2: pocket rocket. But she's so much bigger than she's like
Speaker 2: tall and long and fast.
Speaker 1: She is I've never seen you in first and graceful,
Speaker 1: but I am so graceful.
Speaker 2: You are like a robot. You are like not real.
Speaker 2: I've never seen anyone with a helmet, a GoPro, a
Speaker 2: life vest X and a stupid wetsuit on swim that
Speaker 2: fast back and forth.
Speaker 5: While dragging but dragging me. Tried doing it, dragging me.
Speaker 2: You were doing it. She didn't have like I mean,
Speaker 2: you were doing what you could have, but it could
Speaker 2: have been worse for her, but you were still doing.
Speaker 1: Something and you still It was almost deceptive of watching
Speaker 1: Emily and water because you watch her and a part
Speaker 1: of you is like, wow, you know what, maybe I
Speaker 1: could do that. And I don't mean just this water challenge,
Speaker 1: I mean the other ones in this season. And then
Speaker 1: they cut to the other castmates competing. You're like, oh no,
Speaker 1: You're quickly humbled and brought back down to earth. That like, no, no,
Speaker 1: that's just an Emily talent like I was, And it wasn't.
Speaker 2: It wasn't even this episode was impressive, Emily, But it
Speaker 2: was the first time I saw you swim that I
Speaker 2: was like I don't know if I should be paying
Speaker 2: should I I didn't know how to feel. I was like,
Speaker 2: am I is it? AI? Is this real? But you
Speaker 2: trained for this, so like this has to be completely
Speaker 2: different than anything you've ever.
Speaker 4: Done one hundred percent. Like I swim every day. So
Speaker 4: for me, like the swimming challenges were like I was there,
Speaker 4: I saw water and I was like, I'm going to
Speaker 4: fuck shit up today, Like that was my plan. I
Speaker 4: saw water and I was like, I don't care, like
Speaker 4: whatever this is today, I'm going to fuck this shit up,
Speaker 4: like this is what I have to do. And I
Speaker 4: think me and Danny had lots of conversations because we
Speaker 4: were both like athletes going into this and we're like,
Speaker 4: you know, we either come off looking like people are like, oh, well,
Speaker 4: you know, that's what they do, That's what they're born
Speaker 4: to do, like you just see why they're born to
Speaker 4: do that, and if you do shit at like something athletic,
Speaker 4: they're like, oh well why they shit? They're an athlete.
Speaker 4: So it's like just like win win, and sometimes it's
Speaker 4: like all lose.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're so like you've worked so hard to
Speaker 2: be a swimmer, you know, it's not like you were.
Speaker 2: You were competing in eighteen different sports, you know, and
Speaker 2: I feel like you put so much energy into and
Speaker 2: time and effort and like just practicing and swimming all
Speaker 2: the time, that you better be good at it.
Speaker 5: It's not just good at that, that's the.
Speaker 2: Thing that you're like, she's good at Ever, mostly.
Speaker 5: It goes beyond it's just competition, period. It's not like
Speaker 5: period I reached. Remember Emily, when we first saw all
Speaker 5: of all of you lined up inside that stadium, you
Speaker 5: were the only I didn't you know, You're the only
Speaker 5: one that I saw at the whole I'm trying to
Speaker 5: look at everybody were size and everyone thinking who's too
Speaker 5: You were. You were just standing there like you've been
Speaker 5: there before and you've done it before. You were not
Speaker 5: like totally you were like you just are so calm,
Speaker 5: And I can tell that your competitor mindset and the
Speaker 5: experience you bring and your confidence is just of another league.
Speaker 5: It was just it's just cool to see. It's cool
Speaker 5: to be around, it's cool to compete with. It's infectious.
Speaker 1: Yes, What was it like being chosen by Emily? Like
Speaker 1: when you're in that moment for her to pick you
Speaker 1: as a teammate. What were your initial thought, like, this
Speaker 1: is before you guys have now obviously built this amazing relationship.
Speaker 1: But like, was there any intimidation because oh shit, an
Speaker 1: olympian just chose me, or was there like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: rock on because I am also not my own Now.
Speaker 5: I was lucky and blessed. I mean the way these
Speaker 5: things go, you know that there's a little bit of
Speaker 5: a roll of the dice or a lot of roll
Speaker 5: the dice on a lot of things every single day,
Speaker 5: and so for me, I actually just really lucky that
Speaker 5: that that some of the strongest women placed where they
Speaker 5: placed right at the end of that early qualifier. So
Speaker 5: then to know I had already derail already was like,
Speaker 5: hey man, I'm talking to Emily, and you know, I
Speaker 5: was like we're talking, I don't I didn't I think
Speaker 5: I had a chance. And then when Emily says my
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, let's go, And there's no intimidation whatsoever,
Speaker 5: because I am just whether it's he's on my team
Speaker 5: or not. I mean, just seeing her kick ass and
Speaker 5: seeing her ability to tackle all of the difficult, uncertain
Speaker 5: moments of every day as a fierce and confident person
Speaker 5: is just amazing to bear. I mean, I just that's
Speaker 5: just that's the best. That's the best you could ask
Speaker 5: in anybody.
Speaker 2: Yes, you're one of the best partners. I can't take
Speaker 2: it like you bring. Yeah, Yes, you have a different
Speaker 2: quality joy to it even as a friend, like even
Speaker 2: had Tablas, not even like an all, just a person
Speaker 2: to talk to every day. You are. You're like one
Speaker 2: of those guys that I wish I could magically turn
Speaker 2: everybody into you in the house because it's just like
Speaker 2: this breath of fresh air. You know, you're getting like
Speaker 2: no nonsense, just like a very kind person that you
Speaker 2: know respects you and will support you and lift you up.
Speaker 2: So I think that you know you're you're an Olympian
Speaker 2: in your own right, you know, like a heart of
Speaker 2: the heart Olympics and the mind. You just bring like
Speaker 2: your own set of skills to this group. So I
Speaker 2: think the partnersh was awesome. I just want to know
Speaker 2: something in the episode because I'm gonna forget and it's
Speaker 2: really good above me. So it's you and Cass, I
Speaker 2: mean you and cast Jesus Jordan Cass right behind you, guys,
Speaker 2: and they're close, right or is it editing?
Speaker 5: Jordan and cass are not. It's not only this one
Speaker 5: time in this episode that they are right behind us.
Speaker 5: It is later too. We are neck and neck with
Speaker 5: them athletically and competitively, and I love that competition into them. So, yes, Anissa,
Speaker 5: so they are. They are swimming fast. They came out
Speaker 5: the gate to win.
Speaker 2: But I want to know. I mean, these colors can't
Speaker 2: be their colors can't be that close together.
Speaker 3: Oh the color?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Of the triangles?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, How can you guys explain how hard were
Speaker 1: the color Like? How was that even possible that someone?
Speaker 1: And were they the only team that mistakenly picked up
Speaker 1: the wrong triangle?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I didn't even know about it until we got to
Speaker 4: the end. I think they came out of the water
Speaker 4: is same, Like we both came out with triangles at
Speaker 4: the same time. They went to a small amount of
Speaker 4: feather away or something like that, and then he was like,
Speaker 4: I think I heard TJ say that, Well, you just helped.
Speaker 2: Out Carell and your best friend Kiki.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Emily, I just remember it was I just remember
Speaker 5: trying we jump in the water, and I know Jordan's
Speaker 5: got it out for us because he loves to race.
Speaker 5: I love his competitive spirit. And I also know Caz too.
Speaker 5: She's got the killer competitive spirit. So they're kind of
Speaker 5: even competing for space, just just individual as individuals, because
Speaker 5: she's got a bright light to shine when it comes
Speaker 5: to skills and her opinions and everything, and she doesn't
Speaker 5: want to be overshadowed or talked down to by all.
Speaker 5: She got a lot to prove. The two of them
Speaker 5: show up in the water and they are blazing. And
Speaker 5: what's funny is I see him coming because I'm behind them.
Speaker 5: Emily's towing me and I'm behind Emily and I can
Speaker 5: see Jordan's pass and finally they get closed enough with
Speaker 5: Jordan's talking to me. He's like, I'm coming at you, man,
Speaker 5: I'm coming. He's like a shark. He's yelling at me,
Speaker 5: and I'm that's him all the time, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 5: hell no. So it like we're feeding off each other
Speaker 5: and Emily is just killing it. She then I think
Speaker 5: I was supposed to get the puzzle piece or something,
Speaker 5: but then I'm exhausted. I mean, I'm just like, I'm
Speaker 5: literally just being rescued and dragged around and she's killing it.
Speaker 5: And then she just grabs the puzzle pieces and goes.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's it.
Speaker 2: Was, but it made it look like they were almost
Speaker 2: around ahead, like because they got that and then they
Speaker 2: still got another, They still got all their pieces and
Speaker 2: they were still building.
Speaker 5: What happened was right after you. Yeah, well so Emily
Speaker 5: correct me if if you remember any different. But I
Speaker 5: remember this where we got done. First we started the puzzle,
Speaker 5: and I'm and I start trying to figure out the puzzles.
Speaker 5: Nobody around, no other puzzles to look at. Yeah, we're
Speaker 5: working hard on the puzzle, and it took a while.
Speaker 5: And then when everyone.
Speaker 3: Else gets done, they roll up, you know what they do.
Speaker 5: They love the pieces together. Yeah, and then all of
Speaker 5: a sudden everyone gets the puzzle, so like it immediately
Speaker 5: ties the game.
Speaker 4: Ah.
Speaker 2: Well that's where they knew it was, right, Yeah, and
Speaker 2: it's annoying. It's a frustrating part when you work that
Speaker 2: hard and then all.
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like they had to do that
Speaker 1: with Emily there though, because it's like Wes is, yes,
Speaker 1: is literally paired with an Olympian.
Speaker 2: But we don't have Emily there. They still have that
Speaker 2: because they Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean true, but I feel like all the more
Speaker 1: reason they have to because SIMI basically like does appear
Speaker 1: wet in the water and then is like all right,
Speaker 1: like is that all I'm done?
Speaker 3: So I feel like that was the.
Speaker 1: Only way and it was really interesting to watch, like
Speaker 1: it was cool to I don't know how you guys
Speaker 1: felt in the moment.
Speaker 3: Were you stressed a.
Speaker 1: Little bit emily feeling like they were neck and neck,
Speaker 1: or were you still just like, oh, no, I know
Speaker 1: I've got this regardless.
Speaker 4: Well, like when I swim, I only focus about my
Speaker 4: like on myself. I can't control what anyone else is
Speaker 4: going to do beside me, so I never like worry
Speaker 4: too much about like what's going on beside me. But
Speaker 4: I was like to yes, I was like I'm going
Speaker 4: to take the swimming like I'm going to take chogs
Speaker 4: on that, like I'll gas myelt that completely. I was like,
Speaker 4: you just saved yourself for the puzzle, like you take
Speaker 4: as many breaks you need, I will drag you through
Speaker 4: the water. You just focus on the puzzle, like you
Speaker 4: do whatever you need to do to get your mind
Speaker 4: ready for that puzzle, because I'm going to be fully
Speaker 4: gasped to finish this. And then I think we got
Speaker 4: there and I was just like okay, yes, like this
Speaker 4: is you, Like I tagged team to you now and
Speaker 4: I watch you and cheer you on, and then yeah,
Speaker 4: like everyone.
Speaker 5: Kind of took me like five minutes.
Speaker 4: You were fine, Like I wasn't stressed at all. And
Speaker 4: then I remember on the very last guess and you're like,
Speaker 4: I don't really know if that's right or not.
Speaker 5: It's true, that's right because we saw they were going
Speaker 5: to hit check. It really was down. It did come
Speaker 5: down down in like a half second like that. I
Speaker 5: mean it really, it was that close.
Speaker 2: What happens if you were to check.
Speaker 4: And we were out, like we were automatically in the bottom.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that sucks. I mean I figured who said it?
Speaker 2: You were Jordan, who was like, it's gonna you're gonna
Speaker 2: have to count the triangles.
Speaker 5: Oh Jordan said it. Jordan knew, Yeah, Jordan kind of
Speaker 5: knew ahead of time.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you still got it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then you still got it.
Speaker 4: Do you remember that?
Speaker 2: No, I saw everyone get it. I was like, Tory,
Speaker 2: I know you didn't get sixteen.
Speaker 4: Yeah. They it was so they said that. They were like,
Speaker 4: oh I've seen this before, I know what the answer is.
Speaker 4: And they got it first. Go everyone else did not
Speaker 4: get it first.
Speaker 2: Go.
Speaker 4: I was like, there's some sneaky shit happening here.
Speaker 3: Wait who got it first? Go?
Speaker 2: Well, you're wait.
Speaker 4: Who who said the Tory and Danny got it first?
Speaker 4: Go and there and it makes me gig burst. Go
Speaker 4: and Danny and Sarah are both from that partners like
Speaker 4: Tory and THEO both said to them, We've got this,
Speaker 4: I've seen it before, and they both get sixteen on
Speaker 4: that first go and got it right? Everyone else? No
Speaker 4: one else got it right first?
Speaker 2: Go? Are you were you upset when you found out
Speaker 2: your best friend Kiki came in life and would have
Speaker 2: to go into elimination again.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say I was sad, but I would have
Speaker 4: bothered someone else than Kiki, Like I didn't have it
Speaker 4: out for Kiki as much as people think, like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, can you put I want to know.
Speaker 2: I want to know what the I want to know
Speaker 2: why there's such a riff.
Speaker 5: And I got so much love for Derel, Like we're
Speaker 5: not we're not we're not going.
Speaker 2: I'm just talking about Kiki and Emily because that's more
Speaker 2: of the storyline that that we're seeing.
Speaker 4: I know, I know it's like that storyline and it
Speaker 4: happened episode one when you just saw me saying let's
Speaker 4: throw Kiki in. But that's not how it went down,
Speaker 4: Like I've got receipts, Like, okay, give.
Speaker 3: Us the receipts.
Speaker 1: Yes, since we want the receipts. This is the receipts podcast.
Speaker 4: Troy was in on the vote. Everyone knew what was
Speaker 4: happening on that vote, even Kiki. I know she says
Speaker 4: she wasn't, but she was in. We told her like,
Speaker 4: this is how we think it's gonna go. Like in
Speaker 4: all the seasons of the challenge, have you ever seen
Speaker 4: one partner make the entire decision? Like I've never seen
Speaker 4: that in all the seasons I've ever watched, I've never
Speaker 4: seen when two people win only one person has a vote.
Speaker 4: I've never seen that.
Speaker 2: M hmm. It's never been like that.
Speaker 4: I've always seen it that if you can't make a decision,
Speaker 4: that person goes in mm hm, and they always come
Speaker 4: to a decision. So I didn't at any stage did
Speaker 4: I think it was gonna be Kiki going in. I didn't,
Speaker 4: and nor did I expect or want that first episode
Speaker 4: like there was like I spoke to Claudia because we
Speaker 4: were like okay, like if they're going to do it,
Speaker 4: it might be Claudia get to choice or Zara goes in.
Speaker 4: And I spoke to Claudia forty five minutes, which they
Speaker 4: didn't show, and I was like, if you have a choice,
Speaker 4: like who are you voting for? And at originally she
Speaker 4: was like I want Kiki and I was like, well, no,
Speaker 4: you can't have Kiki. Like if there's a choice, you
Speaker 4: say Kasi and she was down to say Kaz his name,
Speaker 4: and then I spoke to Kiki. I was like, I've
Speaker 4: talked to Klorea. I think it's like gonna be Kaz.
Speaker 4: And then they flipped the switch and Kiki went in.
Speaker 4: But you saw that I was cheering for Ki entire time,
Speaker 4: and Troy.
Speaker 5: Did appos the whole time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't stop like that.
Speaker 5: I was so loud, so what And the whole time
Speaker 5: we're in the house, I didn't never hear I never
Speaker 5: heard the whole time. The time we're in the house,
Speaker 5: whole time, I never heard Emily talk trash about.
Speaker 3: So there was no tangsho.
Speaker 2: It crazy because this carried on.
Speaker 1: But so even if M in the beginning, that wasn't
Speaker 1: your you know view, like, right, you weren't going for
Speaker 1: Kiki and you were kind of Team Australia at some
Speaker 1: point in the house. Did it shift for you though,
Speaker 1: then where you did feel because it does look very
Speaker 1: much and I know there's so much that doesn't get
Speaker 1: shown because there's only so many minutes in an episode,
Speaker 1: in so many hours in a day. But does it
Speaker 1: shift for you, because it definitely doesn't seem like you
Speaker 1: guys are buddy buddy as the season progresses.
Speaker 4: I think as the episodes, like as we went through
Speaker 4: each challenge and stuff, I think Kiki really pulled away
Speaker 4: from me and from the get go, like we were
Speaker 4: always like like, look, I never spoke to Kik after
Speaker 4: our season finished and ed and follow each other on Insta,
Speaker 4: Like we didn't chat heading into the World Champs, like
Speaker 4: I had no idea like where she stood or anything
Speaker 4: leading into SHO And then we go on the show
Speaker 4: and we're just like, well, like these are the only
Speaker 4: people I know, so I'm gonna I'm gonna ride for you.
Speaker 4: And then kind of Grant left and Kikey never wanted
Speaker 4: to be in any decisions, like she was like I
Speaker 4: never want to knows because I don't want to lie
Speaker 4: to people. So I never involved her in the conversations
Speaker 4: because that's what she asked me to do. She just said,
Speaker 4: tell me who to vote for and I'll do it.
Speaker 4: So then when the episode came up where she was like, oh,
Speaker 4: Emily asked me how much, well it hurts from the
Speaker 4: nototh you just put in it. Well, yes, when the
Speaker 4: plan and.
Speaker 5: Then ten minutes early we told Keiki said it's cool.
Speaker 5: You can say my name, you can say Darrell's name.
Speaker 5: And Darrell was like, it's cool. Because I went to
Speaker 5: Kellyanne and kill Ane was like, I ain't thrown in Durrell.
Speaker 5: I said okay, great, so and I said, Durrell, is
Speaker 5: it cool? And I said, Kiki is it cool? The
Speaker 5: bigger picture is, I think is Keiki was just stressed,
Speaker 5: so like she can nod her head and be like cool, cool, cool,
Speaker 5: and then she kind of just gets worried and stressed
Speaker 5: and then she's like oh hell no, like five.
Speaker 4: Minutes later, Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's just stressful.
Speaker 2: You would have thought that there was a I Hate
Speaker 2: Kiki club because I wasn't here for Keky's interview last week,
Speaker 2: but from just watching it, I'm like what is the beef? Like,
Speaker 2: I'm just happy to be if I could be just
Speaker 2: completely transparent that this show is finally like not saying whatever,
Speaker 2: I'm just happy to see like different things happening, like
Speaker 2: people wanting to win, like trying different methods to get there,
Speaker 2: Like Emily haven't played for a long time, so you
Speaker 2: come in here and you're like, fuck you guys, I'm
Speaker 2: trying to win. But she seems like.
Speaker 1: The interview and she did seem to really feel as
Speaker 1: like confused and her her only you know, I guess
Speaker 1: guess of what it could be, uh, seemed to be
Speaker 1: stemming from you all season of The Challenge Australia and
Speaker 1: wondering if there was something I see you giggling in
Speaker 1: so what okay clarify please did.
Speaker 2: So and I'm fine, I wouldn't.
Speaker 3: Care about anything of it, she said.
Speaker 1: It seems like she said she felt like she thought
Speaker 1: you guys would be cool going in. Although it's interesting
Speaker 1: saying that you guys didn't keep in touch in between seasons,
Speaker 1: because I feel like that's something that's.
Speaker 2: Usually the case with people you're especially.
Speaker 1: If you're going to a new show where you know
Speaker 1: there's only going to be four of you from that
Speaker 1: previous you know, season or thing or whatever. You typically
Speaker 1: kind of touch base just as like a hey, what's up.
Speaker 1: So it's interesting you guys didn't do that.
Speaker 2: But she was wondering if it was sort of like,
Speaker 2: you know, frustration because.
Speaker 1: She won the season, and if that were there was
Speaker 1: some underlying Now a niece's making faces too.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's the only one to sit here with the
Speaker 3: straight face.
Speaker 4: See stop it.
Speaker 2: See this is why we're never doing a show together, Devin,
Speaker 2: because you're.
Speaker 3: I'm paying the picture for everyone listening.
Speaker 2: Stop painting, Stop painting. Nobody's into paint right now, isn't it.
Speaker 1: I'm doing acrylics, so yes, Emily though, do you care
Speaker 1: to like touch it?
Speaker 3: Why do you think she had.
Speaker 1: That mindset going in? Or yeah? And what are your receipts?
Speaker 4: By the way, Yeah, well, I've got messages from Sarah
Speaker 4: and Danny who I had a conversation with Troy on Instagram.
Speaker 4: He said he was because Troy and Kiky both show
Speaker 4: throw shade to me on Insta like, Kiki posts a
Speaker 4: picture of like the most venom mistakes in Australia and
Speaker 4: I'm one of them. I don't know what snaky thing
Speaker 4: to that chick.
Speaker 2: But I'm sorry it makes a giggle. It's forty one.
Speaker 2: I think that's why it makes me good.
Speaker 4: It's fucking stupid, right, like grow up, like and then.
Speaker 2: To anyone, I'm just like, oh it just like it's
Speaker 2: a TV show.
Speaker 5: Correct.
Speaker 1: Wait, but hold on, Troy is doing shit. Little innocent
Speaker 1: quiet like.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, innocent Troy. Okay, have you ever had that guy?
Speaker 4: You've dated that guy and like maybe they like fucking
Speaker 4: feed it on you and they're like that guy, he's
Speaker 4: so nice, he's that guy date I'm not saying like
Speaker 4: a cheetah, but.
Speaker 3: I know, I know, you know that he's that type
Speaker 3: of person.
Speaker 2: So really interesting.
Speaker 4: Yes, Like I came in and he was like very
Speaker 4: first night, like we were in the house, me and
Speaker 4: Grant and he like he kind of like fucked us
Speaker 4: over in this gen season like and that's fine, Like
Speaker 4: I'm okay with that, like good gameplay. But then he
Speaker 4: comes on this season he was like, I'm gonna do
Speaker 4: everything I can to get you to the final and
Speaker 4: then he fucking throws me, So like what is it, Troy,
Speaker 4: Like help me get to the funnel. Are you gonna
Speaker 4: throw me in like I don't care, just like pick
Speaker 4: a fucking.
Speaker 2: Signere, Like yeah, yeah, but people love to play that
Speaker 2: game because it's it's something I wanted something to do.
Speaker 2: The house gets boring, but too, it's like trying to
Speaker 2: play both sides in that. You know, I want to
Speaker 2: I want to make sure you get to the ends,
Speaker 2: and I really am rooting for you. Yeah, but behind that,
Speaker 2: I also don't want you to get there because I
Speaker 2: don't know if I can beat you. But I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna say that because my egos in the way. So
Speaker 2: right now, I'm just gonna do whatever I need to
Speaker 2: do to stay in this house, and nobody fun with me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but then that's just it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's just how it goes some people. But that's
Speaker 2: some people's gameplay. Definitely played the friendship role, so I
Speaker 2: get it.
Speaker 5: We also hadn't seen how it went down yet. We
Speaker 5: didn't see how it went down in the UK, and
Speaker 5: how it went down with Australia and how it went
Speaker 5: down with the previous challenges, so we don't know how
Speaker 5: they want. I don't know how keep you want. So
Speaker 5: they then I have to listen, and I got to
Speaker 5: learn from somebody and I got to listen to people,
Speaker 5: and different people are saying different things. So people are
Speaker 5: telling me, you know, you gotta watch out, you gotta
Speaker 5: watch out for Troy, and then people are telling Troy, oh,
Speaker 5: you gotta watch out for Emily, you got to watch
Speaker 5: out for Emily. And we're all going like, where's the facts,
Speaker 5: you know, show me the fact.
Speaker 2: That they can't eat an after show for this or
Speaker 2: like the ship you didn't see per episode four shows
Speaker 2: that we haven't seen, like an introductory thing, like we
Speaker 2: all need to watch each other's shows. Yeah, correct, correct,
Speaker 2: who these people really are. But when people show you
Speaker 2: who they are the first time, believe them, you know, yes.
Speaker 5: And one thing I do want to just say, Kiki,
Speaker 5: it has been Kiki is hella smart, Hella nice, makes
Speaker 5: amazing healthy food in the house, and it has been
Speaker 5: just the great company, well most of the time, except
Speaker 5: when like all of a sudden, I get surprised and
Speaker 5: she's just and she's just like, oh hell no, Emily
Speaker 5: does Emily that no, no, no, you're coming for you get
Speaker 5: all anxious.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's how she deals with stress, right, like different
Speaker 1: people do.
Speaker 5: And that's like a minority of the time. But you
Speaker 5: see that mostly but most.
Speaker 2: In the house. You know, it's really a thing. Everybody
Speaker 2: gets like that.
Speaker 1: After a while, we're getting into it. Okay, so before
Speaker 1: we go any further, hold on, we got to pay
Speaker 1: some bills, but then we'll be right back after this. Yes,
Speaker 1: how do you deal with stress in the house, because yes,
Speaker 1: you're so like easy going and chill and like, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: so how do you when you're at your most stress?
Speaker 1: And what does it look like for you in the challenge?
Speaker 2: Else?
Speaker 5: This was different. Every season is different. I kind of.
Speaker 5: I think I jumped into the mix a bit more
Speaker 5: this time, of course with Emily to her and I
Speaker 5: as a team. I think playing strategically and being more
Speaker 5: emotionally like at risk and engaging people, making all that
Speaker 5: all the jump I got, I got messy.
Speaker 2: Hands dirty, but you're not, I think different.
Speaker 3: No, No, we haven't seen the whole season yet.
Speaker 2: Oh I know that. But I also know my friend
Speaker 2: I feel like, you know, you have to keep like
Speaker 2: him and I talked to after the show, like sometimes
Speaker 2: you just have to adjust your gameplay. It just has
Speaker 2: to have like every game is different, you know you're
Speaker 2: gonna have different different.
Speaker 5: I'm different, other people are different, and so I don't know.
Speaker 5: I didn't I was stressed. Actually, I just wanted to win.
Speaker 5: I just was out to win. I was like, Emily, and.
Speaker 3: What did you do? Toss?
Speaker 1: We know, so last week Darrell let us know that
Speaker 1: he typically sits on the toilet with his notebook and
Speaker 1: writes down note but he does that anyway because that's
Speaker 1: too but that's how he decompresses. So I want to
Speaker 1: know from Yes and Emily, how do you guys, especially
Speaker 1: because the challenge house is a pressure cooker, how do
Speaker 1: you guys decompress and in your most stressful moments in
Speaker 1: the house, like, how does it manifest itself?
Speaker 5: I wound up going out, I check out the view.
Speaker 5: I try to keep a high level perspective. We're in
Speaker 5: a beautiful, beautiful place.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: A lot of times stress comes from being too overly
Speaker 5: focused on a certain issue or a personal thing. So
Speaker 5: I go get out and try to appreciate where I
Speaker 5: am and talk to other people who bring bring their
Speaker 5: heart rate down. You know, there's certain people in the
Speaker 5: house that do that really well when you talk to
Speaker 5: them and have a great conversation, so that's refreshing. I
Speaker 5: rely on the group too, the group can stress you,
Speaker 5: but the group can also distress you if you choose
Speaker 5: your conversations wisely.
Speaker 3: What about you in.
Speaker 4: I think for me it was just a matter of
Speaker 4: like kind of like just sitting in my bed and
Speaker 4: just I did a lot of psudokias. I know everyone
Speaker 4: might fucking doing sidokus.
Speaker 2: But there's nothing wrong with it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I just I just just stayed in my
Speaker 4: own head and just relaxed. Like that was it for me.
Speaker 4: Like live like alone, So for me, like going in
Speaker 4: there living with so many people and like I don't drink,
Speaker 4: Like I don't like go out and party and all that.
Speaker 4: So that's hard for me because like I just don't
Speaker 4: in my everyday life, and lots of people like they
Speaker 4: stay up late and they party and they bring it
Speaker 4: back the house, and then for me, it's just a
Speaker 4: matter of like putting myself to bed and like being
Speaker 4: okay with like missing out on that. Like a lot
Speaker 4: of conversations happen like when people are drunk, and I
Speaker 4: just yeah they are, Yeah, I don't. I don't get
Speaker 4: involved in that. So in the mornings and like when
Speaker 4: I wake up is when like I start conversations because
Speaker 4: I miss so much when I'm not drinking and not
Speaker 4: partying with everyone.
Speaker 5: Well, Emily also would ask for me math problems in
Speaker 5: her notebook, and Emily was learning some common.
Speaker 3: Like random people problem.
Speaker 2: I would square plus minus five, quadratic equations, quadratical. I
Speaker 2: love that it's really creative plus or minus the.
Speaker 5: Square negative plus of so over four.
Speaker 2: Yes it is. No, it's not, that's that's wrong. Whatever,
Speaker 2: it doesn't really matter. But I will say Emily, there's
Speaker 2: nothing worse than not being able to finish your Sudoku
Speaker 2: when you're in a house like that. Though you can't
Speaker 2: just leave it like, you have to work on it.
Speaker 2: So it is one of the more frustrating places to
Speaker 2: do it because you're trying over and over again to
Speaker 2: figure out something and it's not like you can put
Speaker 2: it down, like go for a walk or go to
Speaker 2: the store whatever. You then become fixated. I've definitely done
Speaker 2: it where I fucked up the whole thing all the
Speaker 2: bus and it's just awful.
Speaker 3: Those challenge buses.
Speaker 1: So something that clearly didn't look like it frustrated you, guys,
Speaker 1: it actually quite excited you, guys. Was when you read
Speaker 1: Stalemate when you were sitting in the like winners room.
Speaker 1: So can you tell us what was the buzz going
Speaker 1: on in the house at the time, Like, did you
Speaker 1: anticipate that was gonna happen? Had you been hearing what
Speaker 1: everyone was plotting? Was it's a surprise for you? Walk
Speaker 1: us through kind of what we didn't see.
Speaker 4: I think for us it was just a matter of
Speaker 4: vike estalemate meant that we could do whatever puck we
Speaker 4: wanted and we were happy with that, Like there was
Speaker 4: there was no like no one's opinions in it, Like
Speaker 4: there wasn't just two names to call out. We could
Speaker 4: call out anyone we wanted, like we had free reign
Speaker 4: to call out anyone. So for us, it was just
Speaker 4: like okay, shit, like we have so much power, like
Speaker 4: the winner that was.
Speaker 1: A possibility though, Or did you like, like you know,
Speaker 1: because sometimes it seems like things leak a little bit,
Speaker 1: right and the winners kind of know that, like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is what people were talking about, and then sometimes
Speaker 1: it seems like the winners have no idea. So did
Speaker 1: you guys have an inclination or was this like a
Speaker 1: Christmas gift for you?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 4: I think we definitely asked for it.
Speaker 5: M hmmm, Yeah, yeah, we asked for it. I mean,
Speaker 5: it's wild when you win. This was tough because when
Speaker 5: you win, you don't get a vote. When you use,
Speaker 5: you don't get a vote, right, So and every vote
Speaker 5: matters and it swings the way the powerships in the House.
Speaker 5: Just one vote matters, and so we won. We didn't
Speaker 5: get a vote, so we're a little bit worried. But
Speaker 5: then we get the super vote, you get the stalemate.
Speaker 5: That's like the super votes. We did ask for it
Speaker 5: because then it also gives us we're in the good
Speaker 5: graces hopefully of Durrell and Kiki because we can ask
Speaker 5: them who they want and actually help assure that they're here.
Speaker 1: Interesting, So was that actually your thought process?
Speaker 3: That's interesting? Does Keiki know that before she posted the
Speaker 3: snake picture? Did she know that, you guys were hoping
Speaker 3: she posted.
Speaker 4: That very early, but we tried to help her on
Speaker 4: that challenge. Yes, if you remember, like like, I don't
Speaker 4: know what we've guessed before, and I was like, I
Speaker 4: can tell you, like I saw what you guessed before, like,
Speaker 4: and we're trying to give them the answer without obviously
Speaker 4: like we've won, we don't want to lose it. But
Speaker 4: we were trying to give them the answer like if
Speaker 4: there was like ever like an olive branch that we
Speaker 4: were helping them. It was right then, But like she
Speaker 4: got out of the house and Grant told me that
Speaker 4: she messaged him like pretty much shared away and said
Speaker 4: that I threw her in, and I was like, I
Speaker 4: was like, I think I told yes that, And I
Speaker 4: was like, yes, she came last like I can't help you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a tough decision. Yeah, well for me
Speaker 5: it was a tough decision. I remember, just because it
Speaker 5: was is it Jordan and Kaz going against Derell and
Speaker 5: Kiki or is it going to be you know, or
Speaker 5: is it gonna is it gonna be Casey you know?
Speaker 5: And and uh Troy. And then so for you, you were like,
Speaker 5: it's Troy, it's Troy. Come on, it's Troy with Troy
Speaker 5: in we got to do this. And I was like, great,
Speaker 5: let's go, you know, let's go off your lead.
Speaker 2: So you're saying that you'll take KICKI over.
Speaker 4: Troy, I'll take Kiki over troyd.
Speaker 1: Okay, Then well I feel like that's progress. I feel
Speaker 1: like we've made in a relationship.
Speaker 2: We're going to be mending so many fensis we are.
Speaker 2: You're not going to be an It's going to be
Speaker 2: a snake with like a princess crown on it, Yeah,
Speaker 2: like a pretty one.
Speaker 4: I don't think I'm sorry. I don't think I'm gonna
Speaker 4: like forgive that though, like I'm sorry. There's just like
Speaker 4: I feel like there's too much. Like the way she
Speaker 4: talks about me is in her interviews sometimes is like
Speaker 4: a bit much like she beat me in that very
Speaker 4: first like challenge and the one the laps around the stadium,
Speaker 4: and I was winning, like me and Sarah were like
Speaker 4: thirty minutes ahead of like anyone else coming. And then
Speaker 4: you know, she put that flag in and I was
Speaker 4: there trying to put that flag in. I don't know
Speaker 4: if you remember, yes, but like I tried so many
Speaker 4: times to put that in and everyone.
Speaker 5: Got it on so many times. Yeah, so many times,
Speaker 5: Sarah too.
Speaker 4: Yeah. And then the way that she just says, you know,
Speaker 4: I just beat Emily an Olympian again, and I was like, well,
Speaker 4: I'm not a fucking Olympian Olympian flag putting lift, Yeah,
Speaker 4: fucking wima, Like if you want to say you beat
Speaker 4: an olympian, writes me in the pool, and then tell
Speaker 4: me you beat me, but don't tell me that.
Speaker 2: You beat happening. This is how you handle it the
Speaker 2: next time you go on a show, if you're both
Speaker 2: gonna be there, I would just dress up as a snake.
Speaker 2: I would have snake shirts, I would have snake hats.
Speaker 2: Just do dumb shit like it. You make it laughable
Speaker 2: and then it just becomes a joke, like, well, that's
Speaker 2: how I handle things, is a joke.
Speaker 1: Because I feel like deep down, you guys, all all
Speaker 1: of you being so innocent, Like we get people on
Speaker 1: this show who definitely you can kind of feel the
Speaker 1: heat hand or venom, but literally all four of you,
Speaker 1: Troy included, and I know you said he has low
Speaker 1: key like he could potentially be cheater vibes.
Speaker 3: This is potentially. This is not saying it actually happen.
Speaker 2: But all four of you have like such a little like.
Speaker 3: Light, sunshiny thing about you.
Speaker 1: So the idea of any of you guys being absolutely
Speaker 1: abhor is just it's a little hard. It's you know,
Speaker 1: not to dismiss your feelings, but like you all seem
Speaker 1: like we'd give a hug to any one of you
Speaker 1: and not like runaway.
Speaker 2: Speak for yourself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, basically you all seem nice with an Anissa,
Speaker 1: and so I.
Speaker 3: Get more hugs than you do.
Speaker 2: I'm actually a big hug.
Speaker 3: Hug.
Speaker 1: Okay, So you guys are happy about the stalemate and
Speaker 1: now you're gunning for Troy. So, based on what you've
Speaker 1: shared with us so far in this interview, it sounds
Speaker 1: like the majority of that decision was Troy based, meaning
Speaker 1: you guys wanting to get out Troy and less of Casey.
Speaker 1: Or was it kind of an equal thing of we
Speaker 1: want to just completely target and annihilate both of them.
Speaker 2: Why annihilate? Why that word we'll get rid of?
Speaker 5: I don't like, I know, we knew they were coming
Speaker 5: for us one. They were coming for us and they'll
Speaker 5: even they'll do it. We just knew we had no
Speaker 5: ground to gain with the two of them at all.
Speaker 5: That that that we were not close. I talked to
Speaker 5: Troy a bunch, but it was just like it was
Speaker 5: just talking about life and regular stuff. But like we Yeah,
Speaker 5: it was I don't I don't trust them one bit
Speaker 5: and they don't trust us. It's okay. We just had
Speaker 5: an open rivalry.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Interesting, And when did that start? And why? Well, I
Speaker 3: mean the Casey part of it all.
Speaker 1: You kind of explained the Troy thing, but like, when
Speaker 1: did you two become.
Speaker 3: Enemy teams?
Speaker 5: I don't know if there's like a moment, Yeah, there is,
Speaker 5: there's a moment.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Do you remember when we were sitting on the
Speaker 4: table and this is when I was off a bat
Speaker 4: off about Troy. It was Ben Ben started the motion
Speaker 4: where he said, Troy across the table, you're at the
Speaker 4: bottom of the Aussies.
Speaker 3: Oh, I remember that.
Speaker 2: He definitely said.
Speaker 4: That, And that was when the crack and Troy started
Speaker 4: and Casey was already on us then. So we were
Speaker 4: like when they both came to fuck, this is just
Speaker 4: like there's no way that's ever going to work. And
Speaker 4: like we if they were willing to like make some
Speaker 4: sort of deal with us, maybe we would have hurt
Speaker 4: them out, but they weren't willing to do anything. Got yeah,
Speaker 4: and we were.
Speaker 5: Like I fired the first shot and it was it
Speaker 5: was I mean, we we had words. I mean they
Speaker 5: fired that shot. They peeled. It was Casey and Ben
Speaker 5: peeling off Amber and Troy by any means necessary. And
Speaker 5: I don't think it was right. I think it was
Speaker 5: I mean, it's a strategic gameplay. That's fine, but like
Speaker 5: we weren't. It was completely fabricated, completely fabricated.
Speaker 3: Wait now you're saying Casey was coming for Amber again.
Speaker 5: No, she was Casey. It was Casey and Ben trying
Speaker 5: to get Troy and Amber out of Team.
Speaker 3: Australia to oh like out of the a lot.
Speaker 5: Trying to get them to think that Team Australia is
Speaker 5: against them, so.
Speaker 3: They would say, gotcha, gotcha.
Speaker 5: You can't trust it, yes, and you can't trust Austra
Speaker 5: but that ain't true. Team Australia was tate talk until.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of talk on.
Speaker 5: This until yeah, we had a lot of time to
Speaker 5: talk until Ben and Casey wound up, wound up and
Speaker 5: trying to start something.
Speaker 4: Yeah it work, Yeah, and that whole nomination happened like
Speaker 4: we I me yes, Troy, Danny Jody, Well, we were
Speaker 4: in a room before that nomination started, maybe like ten
Speaker 4: minutes before it started. We had a plan. We're like, okay,
Speaker 4: this is what we're going to trifle. We might not
Speaker 4: get it, but let's just fucking try. And then we
Speaker 4: go upstairs. We go upstairs to do the walk down
Speaker 4: for the fucking camera and in that two minutes that
Speaker 4: we did a walk down. I saw Ben whispered Amber,
Speaker 4: who whispered to Troy and I said, I turned to Yes,
Speaker 4: I said, it's going to be us.
Speaker 1: Mmm.
Speaker 4: I had a feeling like he flipped it so fucking quick,
Speaker 4: and Amber and Troy can both s and yes, we're
Speaker 4: trying to put us in. But that was that. There
Speaker 4: was never any footage of that. If that was the plan,
Speaker 4: the cameras would have got it, because that would have
Speaker 4: been good fucking footage. But we never fucking said it, gotcha.
Speaker 3: It was just being being messy.
Speaker 5: Security.
Speaker 2: I wish we could organize the podcast where we could
Speaker 2: ask people after we found out certainty, so we could
Speaker 2: just just drill on and just ask them all of
Speaker 2: these because it would have been helpful for the better
Speaker 2: interview to have this kind of information, to ask better
Speaker 2: what was that that?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I mean then was a mean or anything? He wasn't
Speaker 2: me and he's talking about his thing, and you know,
Speaker 2: we want this to be a safe space for everybody
Speaker 2: to talk about their side of things. But it's so
Speaker 2: interesting to find out all the other stuff.
Speaker 5: They came out hard. Now, they came out hard because
Speaker 5: Team Australia was strong. We were four teams deep and
Speaker 5: well I know mm hmm yeah.
Speaker 2: This season honey and Danny and Sarah, Wait, we got
Speaker 2: to talk about your best friend real quick, Sarah. Really,
Speaker 2: Sarah and Danny were on a mission too, Like you
Speaker 2: guys were really adamant about certain people that you did
Speaker 2: not want there and for certain people. Do you think
Speaker 2: how Sarah and Danny were like coming together. I know
Speaker 2: you were kind of part of that, but they were
Speaker 2: like really in cahoots. Do you think what they were
Speaker 2: doing so far as is productive? Do you think it's working?
Speaker 2: Do you think it's messy?
Speaker 4: Look, I got on really well with Sarah, and people
Speaker 4: can say whatever they want about me and that I'm
Speaker 4: backstabby and that I go against people whatever, But when
Speaker 4: I say I've got you're back, I've got you back.
Speaker 4: Like me, Sarah, Danny and Grant we had a plan
Speaker 4: like we were Look, we were writing for each other
Speaker 4: and for me, like I'm going to stick with that,
Speaker 4: like no matter what's happening, Like Danny never said my name,
Speaker 4: like and there were times where Danny could have been
Speaker 4: the vote that drew me in on like I don't know, yes,
Speaker 4: how many three different occasions where we were up phenomination
Speaker 4: and they.
Speaker 5: Danny came to bat for us multiple times.
Speaker 3: Oh we saw it, we heard.
Speaker 2: Do you think that if I just want to, you know,
Speaker 2: not play David's advocate, but I just I just want
Speaker 2: to pick it something really quick. I'm just curious. So
Speaker 2: what if all of a sudden Danny was like, you
Speaker 2: know what I don't want? Yes, and you guys already
Speaker 2: have your thing the guest comes for So it's like,
Speaker 2: how Danny feels. Okay, maybe I freeze up incorrectly. How
Speaker 2: Danny and Tori are about Jordan.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, if.
Speaker 2: Emily and Yes came in the game and she had
Speaker 2: somebody else to protect, you know what I mean? Like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you say you go to bat for people. So like
Speaker 2: if you had this agreement with Danny, I'd have to
Speaker 2: shut that ship down for your for your partner partner,
Speaker 2: would you do?
Speaker 5: So?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, I mean I guess like I was lucky.
Speaker 4: Me and Yes talked all the time as much as
Speaker 4: people want to come on podcasts. Yes had no idea
Speaker 4: what I was planning. Yes knew everything that we were
Speaker 4: planning because we planned it together. Like I might have
Speaker 4: been like more of the uh maybe, and maybe that's
Speaker 4: why people think it was only me doing the like
Speaker 4: like you know, working.
Speaker 1: But that's a good balance. I feel like you need that.
Speaker 1: You can't have everyone be loud and in everyone's face.
Speaker 1: Like it's a good not that you're in everyone's face,
Speaker 1: but you know what I mean, Like you need one
Speaker 1: partner that flies under the radar a little bit because maybe, yes,
Speaker 1: then it's privy to conversations that aren't said around you
Speaker 1: or whatever else.
Speaker 3: Like I think that works as like a good partnership.
Speaker 4: Yeah, one hundred percent, Like I think that, Yeah, we
Speaker 4: had I was kind of like the one that would
Speaker 4: talk to Sarah, Sarah and Danny like lots OFCs. I
Speaker 4: was involved with pretty much, even though I'm I'm not
Speaker 4: like they're sometimes in the camera angle. I was pretty
Speaker 4: much there most of the conversations apart from the one
Speaker 4: last night or the other day. I'm losing focus of
Speaker 4: when the episodes.
Speaker 2: Are blurring together today.
Speaker 4: Contract the contract, Oh.
Speaker 1: When they broke when they wrote on the dry race board,
Speaker 1: Yeah that was last week.
Speaker 5: That Yeah, I know I saw that that was on
Speaker 5: your bed. They were sitting on your bed, Emily, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: they were.
Speaker 1: Question did Sarah then tell you after because obviously she
Speaker 1: struggled with that decision, so did she immediately afterwards come
Speaker 1: and tell you guys, Hey, this is what I agreed to.
Speaker 3: Here is the plan. Hopefully you guys win so we
Speaker 3: don't have to do it, so.
Speaker 4: One hundred percent, so I knew. So even though I'm
Speaker 4: not there for all the conversations, Sarah would always fill
Speaker 4: me in on what was happening and what was going on.
Speaker 4: She goes, it's a fucking white board, like it means nothing,
Speaker 4: Like I just signed my name on a whiteboard. She
Speaker 4: was making jokes about it, and then I think like
Speaker 4: then we saw it was water and I was like,
Speaker 4: oh fuck, yeah, this couldn't be any better. And then
Speaker 4: we won that challenge, and I think the first thing
Speaker 4: Jordan said was like I just got survived, and I
Speaker 4: was like, yeah, survivor bit yeah.
Speaker 2: Really do you think that Sarah would have followed through?
Speaker 3: Though?
Speaker 1: Because Sarah, you know, usually kind of states that she too,
Speaker 1: like you, Emily, is someone that you can.
Speaker 2: Take her at her word, right, So like if she says.
Speaker 1: She's going to do something, she's going to do something.
Speaker 1: So do you think in the event you guys didn't
Speaker 1: win and Jordan and Kas had one. Do you think
Speaker 1: she would have stood by what she agreed to with
Speaker 1: that group or do you think she would have shit,
Speaker 1: you know, gone back on her promise to them and
Speaker 1: protected you, to.
Speaker 4: Be honest, like they probably if Jordan and has one,
Speaker 4: and like I don't know who would have been in
Speaker 4: the bottom then, Like, but I just don't think they
Speaker 4: would have had the numbers maybe to do it. Like
Speaker 4: if Toy and Danny and Sarah and THEO did not
Speaker 4: get the answer, they would not have come where they came,
Speaker 4: like Kiki and Derell might not have come last.
Speaker 5: So like, I just appreciate that you. I trust Sarah,
Speaker 5: and I trust you, and I trust Danny, and I
Speaker 5: know that y'all are in the in the downstairs with
Speaker 5: all the MVPs, you know, doing the calculus down there,
Speaker 5: Survivor style, Olympic style, whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 5: But it wasn't a normal like challenge way. I feel
Speaker 5: like it was very very smart and careful. And just
Speaker 5: to backtrack a little on our decision making, we always
Speaker 5: just decided things together. We're always a team. You and
Speaker 5: I share decisions. We don't keep each other in the dark.
Speaker 5: Are doing weird. I mean, that was the coolest thing.
Speaker 5: Our communication is great. I take full responsibility for every
Speaker 5: vote we made, just as you do too. You know,
Speaker 5: I thought that was cool. You know, I think that's good.
Speaker 1: That's real teamwork and I love you all team dynamic.
Speaker 1: But to go back to that point really quick, though,
Speaker 1: Sarah put herself in a really tricky position right, like,
Speaker 1: because part of that whole playing straightforward game is and
Speaker 1: probably the thing that Danny is fighting for with Toy
Speaker 1: is like, you can't promise everyone everything because at some
Speaker 1: point you've got to you know, you're gonna you might
Speaker 1: be back up against a corner.
Speaker 3: And so she willingly put her like.
Speaker 1: Yes, it worked out beautifully for you guys, because Emily's
Speaker 1: an Olympian.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's an amazing partner. And it happened to be
Speaker 3: a water challenge day.
Speaker 1: But it very easily even on that day, since you
Speaker 1: guys even said it was second to part between Jordan
Speaker 1: and Kaz, could have not been that case, in which
Speaker 1: case she would have had to break a promise to
Speaker 1: someone or just gone back on her word to someone.
Speaker 1: And I wonder how that would have like, would you
Speaker 1: have if she had come to you em and said,
Speaker 1: you know what, I agreed to do this. I know
Speaker 1: it's a whiteboored intodumb and it's probably a race by now,
Speaker 1: but like I said, I would do this, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have to say your name. Would you have been okay
Speaker 1: with that because she was upfront? Or would you been
Speaker 1: a little upset?
Speaker 4: I think I would have been upset just because of
Speaker 4: how I was playing the game. I think for me,
Speaker 4: like I wasn't making any other promises with anyone, Like
Speaker 4: the only promise I ever made was to Sarah and
Speaker 4: to Danny and to Grant. When Grant was there, like
Speaker 4: it was my number one, Like I know that Sarah's
Speaker 4: number one was Danny, so like when it was us
Speaker 4: left in the game, I knew at one, like at
Speaker 4: some point that like if Grant was still in and
Speaker 4: it was between Grant and Sarah, like I was gonna.
Speaker 3: Have you to Grant. Yeah I get what you're saying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we we both from the very beginning said who
Speaker 4: our number one was. And I knew her number one
Speaker 4: was and I knew like mine, she knew mine was Grant,
Speaker 4: and unfortunately Grant like got injured and went home. But
Speaker 4: like if Grant was still there. He would have been
Speaker 4: my first pick, so I knew that, but obviously, like
Speaker 4: it's still fucking hurts when like, of course you've someone
Speaker 4: really hard and then like they might go and vote
Speaker 4: for you, like that's yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: They mentioned it too when I talked to Dan and
Speaker 5: I talked to Sarah. I mean they talked about though,
Speaker 5: at the end of like, hey, when the end, we
Speaker 5: got to pull the ripcord, you know, we pull the ripcord,
Speaker 5: you know, like if if something blows up or some
Speaker 5: shit goes down, it goes down, you know.
Speaker 1: Because you guys are getting far in the game and
Speaker 1: at a certain point the game, at that point it's
Speaker 1: a fair fight.
Speaker 5: It's a scramble. Yeah, yeah, then it's a fair fight,
Speaker 5: and it's you.
Speaker 2: Know, there's no hurt feelings. It's kind of like it's
Speaker 2: you were me and it's not going to be me.
Speaker 2: So I got to play. You just got to play
Speaker 2: the game. And I think you guys are playing a
Speaker 2: good game so far.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I love hearing your.
Speaker 1: Strategy here because if we don't get to see as
Speaker 1: much of your strategy on the show, or like hear
Speaker 1: it as much, I mean we saw, Emily, you proposed
Speaker 1: to Sarah and we saw, but we didn't really get
Speaker 1: to see yours strategy. So it's cool hearing all the
Speaker 1: thought and conversations and things that are going on.
Speaker 2: It's the only fuck up, Emily, That's the only part
Speaker 2: where I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, that's relationships still doing?
Speaker 3: Are you still married?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Technically maybe, like we have to find that. I
Speaker 4: wanted to declare our divorce. Yeah, yeah, No. I digriaged
Speaker 4: out to both Jordan and Tory, like I felt shitty
Speaker 4: about that, Like I don't know, like me personally, I
Speaker 4: watched that and I got an awkward feeling, and I
Speaker 4: messaged them both and like just like said, hey, like
Speaker 4: I didn't mean any disrespect to like the relationship that
Speaker 4: you had, Like I know that was like very very
Speaker 4: real for both of you, and like that's not what
Speaker 4: my intention was in doing that, Like it was just
Speaker 4: a matter of means era being like just because we've
Speaker 4: just met doesn't mean that our relationship doesn't mean anything
Speaker 4: too right.
Speaker 5: Right, And that's what every legend is up against. And
Speaker 5: that's why I was just chilling with y'all. I felt
Speaker 5: like part of your team, you know, hanging out with
Speaker 5: the legends downstairs, because the Legends are up against relationships
Speaker 5: that are five, ten, fifteen, and twenty years old and deep,
Speaker 5: and so the Legends need to find a way to
Speaker 5: build that support with each other fast and to see
Speaker 5: them do that quickly is really special because they don't
Speaker 5: have all that history together. So I don't know, I
Speaker 5: just thought it was good. And I felt more like
Speaker 5: a fresh person in the scene than an old school
Speaker 5: person who played the game twenty times with Johnny and
Speaker 5: Wes and Jordan, so in a way, I felt I
Speaker 5: felt I related to them a lot in that way,
Speaker 5: which was cool. And then we tried to play the
Speaker 5: game towards the end of this episode, you know, we
Speaker 5: tried to play the game. We'll jump in and say,
Speaker 5: oh what happened was is that, you know, we get
Speaker 5: this stalemate? So okay, well we got to make some moves.
Speaker 5: We're gonna do ye. Drell says, I want Jordan. He
Speaker 5: told me, I want Jordan.
Speaker 3: You want Jordan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, get that redemption for that last one that they
Speaker 2: had against each other.
Speaker 5: Mm yeah, And he says I want Jordan. And I'm like, okay, well,
Speaker 5: well let's talk. Emi and I are going to talk
Speaker 5: and then I was like, well, if we're doing Troy,
Speaker 5: then I'll just let's make a deal with Jordan. Just say, hey, Jordan,
Speaker 5: we won't throw you in, you know if if you
Speaker 5: don't say our name, we won't throw you in.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And he's like, well I can't wait, Okaya roll back.
Speaker 5: He's like, I cannot say your name.
Speaker 1: So Darrell says he wants Jordans and you take that
Speaker 1: and go light bulb, Let's go make a deal with Jordan.
Speaker 3: So then you go to Jordan and go, hey, man,
Speaker 3: next week, how about this.
Speaker 1: We scratched your back, you scratch ours, and we're just
Speaker 1: throwing Troy anyway?
Speaker 3: Is that Did I hear that right? Or am I?
Speaker 2: I was like, hey, Era, there were a lot of
Speaker 2: the same thing this episode.
Speaker 3: I know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about, Yes, the the then man, Yes, a
Speaker 1: little messy.
Speaker 5: Yes I'm not Mary, but no, watch and learn.
Speaker 3: What you say him.
Speaker 4: We did go to Troy and Casey too like and
Speaker 4: spoke to them about like what they were thinking, and
Speaker 4: they were just they said, like straight up to our face,
Speaker 4: they were like we just we can't make any deals.
Speaker 4: And we were like okay, cool, Like at least we
Speaker 4: know where we stand.
Speaker 3: So interesting, okay.
Speaker 1: So they got nothing to offer the opportunity and they
Speaker 1: were like no, okay, and then.
Speaker 5: Jordan says, I don't have a vote to offer you.
Speaker 5: He said, I can't. He's like, already made too many promises.
Speaker 5: I can't not say your name. So it was Jordan's idea.
Speaker 5: He goes, you know what, I'll just if you got
Speaker 5: you know, if if if you guys are in first
Speaker 5: and if I'm in second, then you can you can
Speaker 5: keep first, Like that's the only thing I can offer you.
Speaker 5: And I'm like, okay, let's find that sounds weird, but
Speaker 5: that's sound okay, that's fine. So he's like, if you
Speaker 5: guys are want to be in first place, then you know,
Speaker 5: then I don't have to say your name. He's like,
Speaker 5: get first?
Speaker 1: Is it this agreement you guys have with Jordan? Is
Speaker 1: it specifically for the next challenge only?
Speaker 5: Like? Is there any I knew it's the last challenge?
Speaker 5: We know it's the last challenge, and so this is it.
Speaker 5: This is punching our ticket to the final right here.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: So that's a big him to say, Oh, that's a
Speaker 1: big to say we won't take first, if you guys
Speaker 1: are just ahead of us, that's a big get like.
Speaker 5: That, that's a big ass promise made, and you might
Speaker 5: want to see how it comes out.
Speaker 3: So we want to see.
Speaker 1: We want to see just saying and I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: texting you guess and be like, wait a minute, now
Speaker 1: what you said last week? I want that's a big give.
Speaker 3: That's interesting.
Speaker 5: So I didn't now that though he offered it. I
Speaker 5: just said he if you don't say my name is
Speaker 5: like I want, I want to throw you in today
Speaker 5: if you don't say our name in the next in
Speaker 5: the next, the next challenge.
Speaker 2: He's like, well, did kas need to be present for that?
Speaker 1: Because this goes back to a lot of what we
Speaker 1: saw in this episode with the debate yea, everything that's
Speaker 1: talking about about like we're equal partners and blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: And so we just see a quick glimpse in the
Speaker 1: like preview for next week where it looks like it's
Speaker 1: YouTube and Jordan talking cats is there.
Speaker 5: There and I and I appreciate and support all all
Speaker 5: of that she brings to that team, and oh for sure,
Speaker 5: she tried to highlight what a badass she is throughout
Speaker 5: the entire challenge because she deserves all of the attach This.
Speaker 3: Is a yeah, I agreed. Cool. Oh this is so good.
Speaker 3: You guys are so fun and interesting.
Speaker 1: I feel almost as refreshed as if I had gone
Speaker 1: for a swim with Emily, except less defeated, because I
Speaker 1: feel like I would feel if I swim with her
Speaker 1: drown I know how to swim, would drown lapsed.
Speaker 2: Seventy five, She'd be swimming like a five thousand.
Speaker 1: Meter I'm just I go up my own page. Did
Speaker 1: we learn nothing from when I did the final last?
Speaker 3: Nope, I go back.
Speaker 1: But I still feel refreshing in the pool with an Olympian.
Speaker 1: But this conversation has been fun and refreshing too.
Speaker 3: Is there anything.
Speaker 1: Without giving away any spoilers before we go, is there
Speaker 1: any like tidbit we should keep our or just any
Speaker 1: person just give us a name we should keep our
Speaker 1: eyes on for the manner of the season. Just like
Speaker 1: just say a name. You don't have to give us context,
Speaker 1: just for you all's game. Is there someone we should
Speaker 1: keep our eye on? Maybe they did something that surprised
Speaker 1: you coming up, or maybe they you know, you guys
Speaker 1: get everybody.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's about to be a free for all.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: See, it's about to be a free for all. This
Speaker 5: is where it turns. This is where every deal you've
Speaker 5: made and every little conversation you had over the many
Speaker 5: weeks you've been living together comes to a head and
Speaker 5: you either you either stand behind your word or you
Speaker 5: make up some weird excuses and you.
Speaker 2: I feel like there's gonna be some weird excuse episode.
Speaker 5: Definitely it's weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, Yeah, I can see some weird excuses. Yeah,
Speaker 2: misunderstood what I said. No I did, and we already watched.
Speaker 4: I think watch the relationships because that's that's where the
Speaker 4: ship happens. Like, the relation is where ship gets.
Speaker 3: Oh this is interesting, very interesting. I'm excited. This is fun.
Speaker 1: I'm very excited to see what happens and uh watch
Speaker 1: how you guys play it all plays out, and I
Speaker 1: feel just enlightened hearing you all side of things is
Speaker 1: really just painting a much bigger picture around the you know,
Speaker 1: dissolution of Team Australia.
Speaker 2: This was a big still in the blank episode for me.
Speaker 2: It really was podcast for me. I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I didn't know about that, didn't know about that. I
Speaker 2: didn't know about that either.
Speaker 5: Our backs were against the wall the whole time we're
Speaker 5: fighting with our I mean, we weren't out there taking
Speaker 5: names and you know, trying to trying to blow things up.
Speaker 5: We were trying to keep it, keep it smooth, and
Speaker 5: keep it cool.
Speaker 4: I think, yeah from the other side that that Grant
Speaker 4: got injured and went home. We were the vote every
Speaker 4: single fucking week, and we took our way out of
Speaker 4: being the nominated pair by working with people to not
Speaker 4: get us to be thrown in. But our name was
Speaker 4: said was like the rumor going around house. Our name
Speaker 4: was said every week, like on the bus when we
Speaker 4: would come home from challenges. Kellyan was doing the news
Speaker 4: to get us to be voted in and each week I.
Speaker 5: Never felt like that before. It's weird. I know other
Speaker 5: people get it, but like and it happens to them,
Speaker 5: but I never felt like that, where like people are
Speaker 5: whispering about you in the same room like multiple days,
Speaker 5: multiple times. I don't know. I mean, it's fine. I
Speaker 5: mean it's part of the game. I guess it's how
Speaker 5: it goes.
Speaker 2: And they prove them wrong and then you get first
Speaker 2: where you got and how sweet.
Speaker 3: It is, like look at that, so good?
Speaker 1: Well, for those who want to keep up with you,
Speaker 1: and you know the evolution you guys are making in
Speaker 1: this season, especially you messy. Yes, where can they follow
Speaker 1: you on social media? What's the best way for people
Speaker 1: to keep taps on you guys, Emily?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love that you me co ac fast every time.
Speaker 4: Mine's pretty easy. It's just at a m C B
Speaker 4: O m B S the MC bomb on everything.
Speaker 3: Love it. And what about you?
Speaker 5: Yes, I'm yes on everything. Yeah, you are all one
Speaker 5: word yes on everything. So I hope we get to
Speaker 5: play together again. I hope we get to kick some
Speaker 5: ass together again. Emily, it was it was so it
Speaker 5: was just what every day was fun to jump into
Speaker 5: the fray, whether it's a social game, whether it's just
Speaker 5: you know, working out, or whether it's just trying to strategize.
Speaker 5: And then especially the competition. I love the level of
Speaker 5: competition on this Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: Watching you guys. That was so instanc Yeah. Well we
Speaker 2: have the same we have the same mindset. I mean
Speaker 2: I really like being on this side of the side
Speaker 2: of the screen this time, like, not involved it at all,
Speaker 2: really look at it for what it is. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: be I've been quite unbiased this season.
Speaker 1: You have.
Speaker 3: I'm very proud of you, Niani, you have. It's good.
Speaker 3: She's making yes right up the face too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Yes knows my face. Yes, be like Anissa,
Speaker 2: don't say it and I would just look. But I
Speaker 2: was right about a lot of people. I just was
Speaker 2: not allowed to say things because Yes keeps me here
Speaker 2: and then we hug and then I make faces again,
Speaker 2: and it's perfect. I never have to say anything with him.
Speaker 2: But I'm really happy you guys took time out of
Speaker 2: your day. I know how early it is over there, Emily,
Speaker 2: so thank you. Oh good, And it was very nice
Speaker 2: to meet you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was so wonderful. And what part of Oz
Speaker 3: are you in now?
Speaker 4: I'm in Brisbane, gotcha.
Speaker 2: Such a far flight, but enough drugs and booze. It
Speaker 2: is a bottle of red wine first class and I'll
Speaker 2: see there.
Speaker 4: Yeah perfect.
Speaker 2: I'm well, thank god I'm not swimming there or you'd
Speaker 2: never ever see real.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was you're the You're the best teammate, Emily,
Speaker 5: And I hope you know, if we can ride again,
Speaker 5: that would be amazing. If if we get to, if
Speaker 5: we're on a challenge again, that would be amazing. It
Speaker 5: would not be amazing if I ever have to go
Speaker 5: against you in any anything.
Speaker 3: It'd be interesting watch you guys.
Speaker 5: Then I'm not playing.
Speaker 1: Then you guys will be in that situation that some
Speaker 1: of the other uh you know, legends or MVPs or whatever,
Speaker 1: I get the mixed up.
Speaker 3: But you'll be in that where you guys have built
Speaker 3: such a strong.
Speaker 1: Bond and now you're on the other side of things,
Speaker 1: and how do you navigate that. It'll be really interesting
Speaker 1: to watch, and of course we'll be here on the
Speaker 1: podcast talking about it.
Speaker 3: But thank you.
Speaker 1: Guys so much for making the time, and we wish
Speaker 1: you luck in the remainder of the season. We cannot
Speaker 1: wait to see how it plays out. I'm definitely going
Speaker 1: to be taking a magnifying glass to you all social
Speaker 1: strategy now that I know it's so multifaceted and that
Speaker 1: there's hints of messy yes coming out.
Speaker 2: Stop knowing that I don't want to stay, I don't
Speaker 2: care I get to, so we need to know that's different.
Speaker 3: No, I get to. I but I love seeing it all.
Speaker 1: And thank you guys so much, and uh, good luck
Speaker 1: next week.
Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you, thank you Anissa, thank you, Devin,
Speaker 5: good to hang with you, Emily.
Speaker 4: Be hanging with you.
Speaker 5: Yes, Hey, I miss hanging out. We spend a lot
Speaker 5: of time strategizing and when working together and oh, it's
Speaker 5: just it's fun that that's just a crazy you know
Speaker 5: if I do you know, if I ever did the
Speaker 5: challenge again, I have another partner, There's are going to
Speaker 5: have to endure the fact that I'm like, well, when
Speaker 5: I was with Emily, I know, next start.
Speaker 6: I feel bad.
Speaker 1: Ooh, I told y'all that was a great interview with Emily,
Speaker 1: and yes, I am so excited to keep watching them.
Speaker 3: Nini, how do you feel about it?
Speaker 2: Me too? I cannot wait for next week's episode. Like
Speaker 2: just when you think like I've seen everything I could
Speaker 2: see out of these people, mm hmm, I'm gonna be
Speaker 2: sadly mistaken. And I know that there are more surprises
Speaker 2: to come, and I cannot wait.
Speaker 3: That's gonna be so exciting.
Speaker 1: Now for those in the meantime who want some extra
Speaker 1: surprises and want to go follow you on social media
Speaker 1: to see what you're up to you, where can they
Speaker 1: best find you.
Speaker 2: The surprises? If I ever post, you can find me
Speaker 2: at Anissa MTV A N E. E. S. A MTV
Speaker 2: on Instagram. That's the only place that I reside. Devin,
Speaker 2: Please name all of the things and places people can
Speaker 2: find you, support you, follow you, watch you.
Speaker 1: You can do all the things. You can find me
Speaker 1: on Instagram Devin Simone. That's Devin with the y Simone
Speaker 1: with an I. You can also go to my website,
Speaker 1: devinsmone dot com and if you scroll to the bottom,
Speaker 1: you will see all my social handles on TikTok, Twitter,
Speaker 1: I tweet back, so feel free to message me let
Speaker 1: me know your thoughts on the scheming that we heard
Speaker 1: about on today's episode.
Speaker 3: You can follow me on Amazon.
Speaker 1: We do live streams and shout outs there, so you
Speaker 1: can type in Devin Simone's gift closet and Google, or
Speaker 1: just go to my Instagram and click on the link
Speaker 1: and bio and that'll take you there too. And then
Speaker 1: once you've done all of that all right, once you've
Speaker 1: hung out and befriended us, and we're so glad that
Speaker 1: you're part of this challenge.
Speaker 3: Fam. If you like this episode, why don't you rate
Speaker 3: and review us on.
Speaker 1: Spotify and Apple Podcasts, Tell a friend, tweet some people,
Speaker 1: send the link, say it and read it all the things.
Speaker 3: We appreciate it so much. And then after you've done that,
Speaker 3: what should they do? Anisa?
Speaker 2: Yes, after you do that, please catch do episodes of
Speaker 2: The Challenge World Chantapionship Wednesday on Paramount Plus.
Speaker 3: And then after that we'll see you right back here
Speaker 3: next week for a brand new episode of MTV's official
Speaker 3: Challenge podcast. Hopefully I'll be done packing by then.