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Speaker 1: This is Frosted Tips with Lance Bass and I heard podcast. Hello,

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Speaker 1: my Little Peanuts, it's me your host, Lance Bass. This

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Speaker 1: is the brand new show Frosted Tips with me Lance

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Speaker 1: Bass and my co host Michael Durchen. That's my husband.

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Speaker 1: If you didn't know already, UM, Welcome to the show, guys.

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Speaker 1: We were so excited to finally bring the show up.

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Speaker 1: We've been talking about this for probably three years, right literally, yes,

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Speaker 1: three years. And if you've listened to our other shows before,

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Speaker 1: you know we love our pop culture, so you're gonna

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Speaker 1: get tons of it on this show. But we want

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Speaker 1: to do something special because we wanted to take you back.

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Speaker 1: We wanted to give you some nostalgia on this show.

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Speaker 1: Hence Frosted Tips the best era in the world apparently,

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Speaker 1: you know what. I always did want frosted tips growing up,

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Speaker 1: and I never did it. I don't know if I

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Speaker 1: could see you with frosted tips, but everyone did it

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Speaker 1: back then, and I wanted like everyone did it, yes,

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Speaker 1: and I thought I and Nick Carter were the only

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Speaker 1: ones that did it. Mark McGrath, well, I wanted to

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Speaker 1: model mine after his. Whoa you know where I got

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Speaker 1: my frosted Tips idea, um aqua. Remember the really white

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Speaker 1: haired guy had the spikes, I would might have been

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Speaker 1: a little attracted to him, um, but I definitely wanted

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Speaker 1: his hair. And since then I started really bleaching the

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Speaker 1: crap out of my hair. And then you know, you

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Speaker 1: have to work a lot, so the root would come

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Speaker 1: in and boom, frosted tips were born and they never

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Speaker 1: left in your and they never thanks to my mom.

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Speaker 1: My mom is the type that anytime I go home

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Speaker 1: to Mississippi and she's like, you know, you need a

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Speaker 1: little son. You live in California, you're getting You're you're

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Speaker 1: really pale. You need You're just the type and need

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Speaker 1: some sun. You look sick if you don't have some sun.

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Speaker 1: Some frosted tips in there too. Yes, always shall always

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Speaker 1: see Like another singer or actor or something, she's like,

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Speaker 1: you know, so little blah Blah's hair, Well, you know

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Speaker 1: what, you you should make it more like that at a

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Speaker 1: a blonde. Your hair it's a little too dark. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're just you're just a blonde. You're a blonde, like mom.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't a blonde since I was four years old.

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Speaker 1: Really yeah, and then when I you know, turned into

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Speaker 1: sync in and they decide, oh, we want you to

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Speaker 1: be like blonde, right, No, they turned me orange. If

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Speaker 1: you see the first album cover, the German album, Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: for those that don't know we're a German band. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think you just used son In for those first

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Speaker 1: Legit went to a salon and got orange hair and

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Speaker 1: then they put a greasy comb over on it, just

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Speaker 1: like maybe they wanted a redhead. You know, they got

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Speaker 1: a lot of brunenettes who got a curly blonde and

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Speaker 1: they're like, you know what, it wasn't a good red

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Speaker 1: you know what, we need a redhead. It was an

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Speaker 1: orange head. Okay, it was one of my clown my

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Speaker 1: hair to make you laugh. Yes, it did make me laugh. Um.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, so um, we sound maybe a little weird

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Speaker 1: because we were recording this on our voice note right now, um,

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Speaker 1: but because we have had a hellish, hellish of a

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Speaker 1: day alright, so on the show, I guess we buried lead. Um.

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Speaker 1: When we announced the show last week, I said we're

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Speaker 1: gonna have a very special guest. Um. If you listen

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Speaker 1: to the trailer, you know that this show is all

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Speaker 1: about nostalgia, bringing in our favorite boy band icons and

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Speaker 1: really getting in depth and getting to know them and

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Speaker 1: going back. We're also gonna have great pop culture icons also,

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Speaker 1: but we're kind of focusing on the boy banders right

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Speaker 1: now because that's what you wanted, that's what you ask for,

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Speaker 1: and our very first guest today is who you really

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Speaker 1: ask for. He's like the unicorn of boy band members

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Speaker 1: is he is the unicorn and I love that we

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Speaker 1: that make us a leper con? We're unicorn wranglers, We're

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Speaker 1: unicorn hunters. Uh. Anyway, guys, you asked, I gave it

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Speaker 1: to you. Mr j C. Chase is going to be

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Speaker 1: our very first guest now again. I want to j

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Speaker 1: Well we already did it, but he's he was here.

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Speaker 1: It's a great interview because you know, one thing that

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Speaker 1: they never do Mickey mouse Club. Yes really, I know.

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Speaker 1: He's like, can we talk about making a mouse Club more?

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Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, because no one ever talks about it.

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Speaker 1: There was some great, great people there and not even

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Speaker 1: to mention the people that audition didn't even make it,

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Speaker 1: I feel like they might be embarrassed about it. I

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Speaker 1: feel like everybody else, like who was not in Mickey

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Speaker 1: they making moulu it was the greatest. They never talked

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Speaker 1: And I think j C is too, because he was like,

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Speaker 1: back to it because I wanted the salacious stuff that happened,

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Speaker 1: some trouble, all right. So j C is on the

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Speaker 1: show today we're gonna get to him any second now.

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Speaker 1: But we just wanted to um intro this because we're

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Speaker 1: little more similive and it'll be better quality, not on

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Speaker 1: our iPhones. And well we are we we were Okay,

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Speaker 1: another thing, we are stranded now in Miami. We were

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Speaker 1: heading back to Los Angeles today too then record you

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Speaker 1: know in I Heart Studios as the professionals we are.

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Speaker 1: But our flight was delayed on the tarmac for three

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Speaker 1: hours with two screaming babies. So we were like, uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna do it. Just Just know that

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Speaker 1: airline suck. That's all. That's all. And you know what,

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Speaker 1: and we were the good guys that took the babies

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Speaker 1: off the plane. You're welcome, You're welcome, play flight twenty

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Speaker 1: two whatever. Uh yeah, So we're still stuck in Miami.

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Speaker 1: I gosh, I have to get back by Friday. There's

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Speaker 1: no flights I do. I think I know who the

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Speaker 1: next guest is gonna be. And you're gonna even love it.

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Speaker 1: All right, guys, let's take a little break right now,

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Speaker 1: and when we come back, we're gonna have the one

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Speaker 1: and only Joshua Scott Chase the Yuna Corn and again

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Speaker 1: follow us at Frosted Tips with Lance d. M Us

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Speaker 1: with all your questions life advice. Again, we're new parents,

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Speaker 1: so please give us any parenting advice you got, all right,

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Speaker 1: and you can give us your tips as well. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and and honestly, as asked tips or ask for tips,

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Speaker 1: to give us tips on pretty much anything. It really

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Speaker 1: runs the gamut. What should I put on my hot dog?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. We're here for you. It's your show.

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Speaker 1: We're growing old together guys and new newbies too. Hi,

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Speaker 1: gen Z, we love you too. We're gonna teach you

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Speaker 1: so much. All right, we'll be back with This is

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Speaker 1: Frosted Tips, our new show, and I have my lovely

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Speaker 1: co host, my husband, Mr Michael Turchin, which we also

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Speaker 1: called Turkey Turchin. We have what it's Turkey Turchin. You

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Speaker 1: don't know his nickname, Turkey Turchin, I don't, wow. I

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Speaker 1: never got that nickname because he his feathers get ruffled

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Speaker 1: public persona is this this real sweet, you know, very handsome,

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Speaker 1: nostalgia because I think, especially this day and age, people

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Speaker 1: really knocking for another week. No, can't do math either.

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Speaker 1: today is January nine. Crap, remember it's less than That's

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Speaker 1: how podcasts work. You record it at a time, Good

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Speaker 1: lor Way, the magic traveling, the wrong in action. I

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Speaker 1: It's amazing, I guess doesn't feel like I guess I

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Speaker 1: have to say welcome to show, j C. For those

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Speaker 1: that didn't know who, it feels like it's another day. Oh,

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Speaker 1: kicking in for crisis. But I'm on the Frost Show.

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Speaker 1: But I perfetually felt like too loud, too loud speak.

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Speaker 1: But I always thought I felt twenty three pretty much

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Speaker 1: this show is all about that nostalgia and it's really

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Speaker 1: and just kind of catching up finding out all about you.

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Speaker 1: So I'm the George Washington of this. You are the

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Speaker 1: George because leaked that we were doing this, of the

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Speaker 1: Disney was holding open call auditions for the movie news Hees. Yes,

423
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 1: I was gonna bring that off because I did hear that.

424
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 1: So they they had an open call for the movie

425
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 1: news ees and my mom was like, they need people

426
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 1: who can sing and dance. Honey, you just won this thing.

427
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,160
Speaker 1: Would you want to go? And I was like, yeah,

428
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 1: it's great. She goes, okay, but you know, you're it's

429
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 1: on a school day, so we're gonna have to get

430
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 1: up early go into d C. It's in Washington, d

431
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 1: C this audition, so you know, you're not going to

432
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 1: be in school. And I was like, yeah, gee, that sucks,

433
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's like, of course you go.

434
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 1: So we ended up going there and they said, you know,

435
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 1: they gave the age range for the characters that they

436
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 1: were casting, and they said I was either too young

437
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,399
Speaker 1: or too old for the part that they were casting

438
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 1: for that day, you know, because they had a full

439
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 1: cast of care which part it was? This was one

440
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,400
Speaker 1: of my favorite musicals. Well Christian Bale, right, like that's

441
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 1: kind of his one of the early things he did.

442
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 1: So yeah. So it was like, but they said, listen,

443
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,880
Speaker 1: you're too old or too young for this. But next

444
00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 1: door they're doing an audition for a revised version of

445
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 1: The Mickey Mouse Club. It's you know, it's been out

446
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,119
Speaker 1: for a couple of seasons now and they're casting it

447
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 1: next door. And the only one I knew about was

448
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,879
Speaker 1: the fifties one, right, and they had one in the seventies,

449
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 1: and I didn't know every twenty years they would like

450
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,239
Speaker 1: kind of bring it back, which I think they need

451
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,239
Speaker 1: to bring it back now. They actually they did like

452
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,239
Speaker 1: an internet version recently. Yeah, but that was just like

453
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 1: way to new ag like bring back the classic Mickey

454
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 1: mouse Club with a great new Ian because look at

455
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 1: the amount of talent that came out of all of

456
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 1: those versions from a try and come on, you're having

457
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 1: trouble speaking today and they gave you a microphone. Has

458
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 1: been a while since up in front of this mic

459
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 1: what is going on? But every I mean nothing compared

460
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 1: to you. She well, but your class was insane. I

461
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 1: mean the amount of people that came out of MMC,

462
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 1: the New Mickey Mouse Club. I mean, you have Carrie Russell,

463
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 1: have you you have Justin Christina, Brittany, Ryan Gosling. Did

464
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 1: you know? And I kind of wanna. I want to

465
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 1: know what it was like being a teenager on this

466
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 1: huge hit show away from your family. Probably right, you weren't.

467
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 1: Your parents didn't move to Orlando, but there there's a

468
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 1: lot that went into it, So I want to know

469
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 1: the slacious stuff. What happened was everyone like dating everyone,

470
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 1: losing the virginity to everyone. It was a bit. It

471
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: was no you know, we were too young. We were like,

472
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 1: we were just so hungry, and honestly, we were amazed

473
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 1: that people would let us do this, you know what

474
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 1: I mean. They're like, oh, you want to sing and dance, Like,

475
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna We're gonna let you do it all day.

476
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 1: You know, you're gonna have to go to school, but

477
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:48,919
Speaker 1: then you're gonna get to play with some of the

478
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 1: most talented people and that you've ever encountered all day,

479
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,120
Speaker 1: and then they're gonna be your friends and you're gonna

480
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 1: get to hang out with him after work, and then

481
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 1: you know, so it was look, it was a it

482
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 1: was a real blessing ing um and I look, I look,

483
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 1: I look back at that stuff finally, and in the moment,

484
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 1: you just think it's fun and it's interesting because one

485
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: of the stage managers, Dave, used to always say, just

486
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 1: don't forget any of this. You don't realize how special

487
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 1: this is. And you know, and then and the acting coach,

488
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: this guy's name was Gary Spats, and you know, because

489
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 1: we would always do these comedy sketches and you have

490
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 1: to memorize these lines, and so you know, you're working

491
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,199
Speaker 1: with eleven year old and twelve year olds up to

492
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 1: fifteen sixteen year old, and you know they're trying to

493
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,679
Speaker 1: get you to be comfortable, you know, memorizing lines. And

494
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: so we would work with this acting coach and you know,

495
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: he would always you know, at the at the beginning

496
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 1: where at the end of the class, just go, you know, hey, man,

497
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:48,199
Speaker 1: just remember like have fun out there, and you know,

498
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: just remember how lucky you are. This is a great thing.

499
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 1: And what was that you played a character wipe out?

500
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 1: It was a little wipe out. No, I mean I

501
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,439
Speaker 1: probably sound like him anyway, I'm such a bro. It

502
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 1: was more like what California. What was your first solo

503
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: you got on mmc um. I don't remember the first

504
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,880
Speaker 1: solo I got. I remember the first video I got.

505
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I'm making a video like MTV

506
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: but not you know what I mean. So it was

507
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 1: it was a song by a band called Nelson, which

508
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 1: were twins. Yeah, and there was the song was called

509
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,679
Speaker 1: love and Affection didn't trans can manage them eventually or

510
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 1: I don't know label. Yeah, So that was my first

511
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: kind of like moment where I was like I just

512
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 1: made a video and uh and I had like the

513
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: cast member, my Lens. She was the love interest and

514
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 1: we told a love story in our video and so

515
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 1: you know, that was very that was very mature, especially

516
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,239
Speaker 1: for Disney. Yeah, I mean, but you were you were

517
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: high school students, I know eventually, Well, your school went

518
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 1: through Dr Phillips, right, Well, originally I was at Bullie

519
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 1: High and then UM and then I was spending so

520
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: much time in Florida that I got transferred to Dr Phillips.

521
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: And did they do school on set or did you

522
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 1: actually get to go to the actual high school? Both,

523
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: so the majority of it was on on set, but

524
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 1: what they on site. What they would do is they

525
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 1: would take the curriculum from the school. They had a

526
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 1: group of teachers called from a company. I mean, am

527
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: I spinning out of this like boring stuff? It is

528
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 1: like they had basically a company called on Location Education

529
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 1: that would that would have had a group of teachers

530
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: that they brought in that were specialists and they would

531
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: teach the curriculum from our schools. We would have to

532
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: then learn the curriculum, do all the work, take the tests,

533
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: and then send it back to the school so they

534
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: could input it as you know, us taking those classes

535
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: and things like that. Yeah, is that where you met Joey?

536
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: Because I know Joey went to Dr Phillips. Also, I

537
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: know he had like stock m mc bro Are you

538
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: kidding me? Are you asking me a Joey story right now?

539
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: My fans? Why did you tell the story? No? I

540
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: know Joey was an audience a lot, so I figured

541
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: he was just a stalker. So Joey was actually one

542
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: of the first people I met when I moved to Florida. Period,

543
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: Like in my first year in the Mouse Club, I

544
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: was moving into my little apartment where a few of

545
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: the other members had gotten apartments as well, and um,

546
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: and he was like in the outside somewhere and I

547
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: was but I guess he was like walking. I don't

548
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: know if he was like walking to the pool or something,

549
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: because it was like a you know, a whole thing

550
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: and it had a pool area and in the he

551
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: saw me unload in my car or something. We were

552
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: both the same age. I guess he recognized, like, you

553
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: need some help and I was like, yeah, you know,

554
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: I'm just moving in. He's like, I'm Joey. And so

555
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: he actually became one of my first friends ever before

556
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: anyone when I moved to Florida. I never knew that story. Yeah,

557
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: he was like swim fan, very swim fan. He was

558
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: a very like two days. He proves the guys, if

559
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: you stalk hard enough, your dreams can come true, even

560
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: if you're from Mississippi. Yeah, dream big. Who on the

561
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: show got in the most trouble? Like who was the stinker? Um,

562
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: that's two different questions. Actually, look man, again, I think

563
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: everybody was pretty dialed in. Everybody was more I would

564
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: say everybody was more focused on getting a song or

565
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: getting a sketch, Like everybody was trying to like really

566
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: get it right. Everybody wanted their shine was a competitive

567
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 1: like dance Moments, It wasn't it wasn't that bad. I would,

568
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: you know what, To be honest with you, the stuff

569
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: I hear in retrospect, it sounded like the parent room

570
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: was far more competitive for the kids. And and then

571
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: this is later in life, like my parents would be like, yeah,

572
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: they were, they were. They would say yeah, they would

573
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: have like the TV and the parents would kind of

574
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: be talking about the other kids into the I was like, really,

575
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: I was like, we were cool, man. We just wanted to,

576
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: you know, sing our songs and get in front of

577
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: the audience and and try to show how we do.

578
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: You know. See, that's the show I would have watched

579
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: because Dance Moms. It was brilliant because I mean there's

580
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: some there's some crazy parents out there, and I could imagine.

581
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: I always imagine too, because I love Kids Incorporated, which

582
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: was a little before MMC. I guess it still was

583
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: going on at the same time. They aired it right before. Yeah,

584
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 1: so I remember Kids Incorporated. And of course you know

585
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: Fergie Mario Lopez. I mean we worked with all those kids, right,

586
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: because I've cut the songs for Fergi when she was

587
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: in Wild Market and then um, you know, when I

588
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: ended up doing Dance Crew, Mario was the host there,

589
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 1: so I was like, hey, Kids Incorporated, Mouse Class Man,

590
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: I came on a half hour after you. Bro See.

591
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: I just imagined it was always like Kids Inc. Versus MMC,

592
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: and you'll always kind of like fought, like the Jets

593
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: in the shows. I think they were around before we were,

594
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: but I don't know because I came in season four.

595
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: I wasn't even in season one. And you know, see

596
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: my my generation was like the part yeah that season

597
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: they made that group in season three. I think you know,

598
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: the good old day. See this is bringing back some

599
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: really good fun. Does this whole thing to be about

600
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: the I wanted to do a lot because no one

601
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 1: ever talks about it, like no one Brittany Christina justin like,

602
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: here's a full circle moment for you. By the way,

603
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: so too full circle moments when it comes to the

604
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: Mouse Club and then we'll drop it. So my first

605
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: live concert, as I told you, was in Vogue. Rona Bennett,

606
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: who was I was on the Mouse Club with and

607
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: joined the same year she joined, is now a touring

608
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: member in Vogue. I don't know she joined in Vogue

609
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: and she's been doing it for years and she crushes it. Like,

610
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: first of all, who doesn't love in Vogue? And then

611
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: when she got the when she ended up gigging with

612
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: them and becoming like she's solidified, like she's in the band,

613
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: like it's she's a band member. And they still tour

614
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: like crazy and they sing the house down, and it's

615
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: amazing for me to think, like, Okay, when I was

616
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: a kid, this is the first thing that I saw

617
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: alive that would like blew my mind. And now she's

618
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: doing that, you know what I mean, she's part of that.

619
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: I was like, that's a gratefull circle, and it turns

620
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: out the other full circles obviously Richard mars Right. So

621
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: the song that I sang at my mouse Club audition

622
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: was Richard Marx right here waiting for You. They because

623
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: that's what I won the talent show with, right Like,

624
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: they asked me to go up there and sing, and

625
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: so I was like, okay, and I had to and

626
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: uh sing what what I like heard in the car

627
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: and uh and that song was popular at the time,

628
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: and uh so I end up getting the I look

629
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 1: at it as hey, I got the job because of

630
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: that song, you know, and then later in life we

631
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: end up doing Promise with Richard and you were really

632
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: good friends to this day. Yeah. Absolutely, Look he's amazing

633
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: and and but that was again another kind of full

634
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: circle moment that actually tied in all of them, right,

635
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: because it was like the first audition I ever did,

636
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: the first thing I ever sang in public, like as

637
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: a for a talent show, and then it got me

638
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,479
Speaker 1: the job for Disney, and then we ended up working

639
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: on it, and so he's been a common thread through

640
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: all of that. That's so great. Also, after the show,

641
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 1: uh is over, you went to I feel like you

642
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: were doing something with Justin right in Nashville. We're all

643
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: doing like a project together. Yeah, so we It's funny

644
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:37,919
Speaker 1: Justin and I saw talked about this Saturday night because

645
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: I never even knew what this project was. I just

646
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: know when Chris called Justin, he was like, well, yeah,

647
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: group sounds great, but like can j C being a

648
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: two we're working on something together. It was different. It

649
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: was everybody remembers it a little different. Um. So I

650
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: had been in l A recording and working with some

651
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: of the people that I met a mouse club, like

652
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: the musical supervisor. I went out and work with him

653
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:01,919
Speaker 1: a little bit and saying on some demos and things

654
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:04,280
Speaker 1: like that. And then, uh, but it was right before

655
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: it was time for me to start school, right because

656
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, I'm eighteened, I gotta you know,

657
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: start thinking about college and things like that. So I

658
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: was driving back across the country, um, and I stopped

659
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,720
Speaker 1: in Nashville to work with Robin who was the vocal

660
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: coach on the Mouse Club Vocal Coaches, so who ended

661
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: up you know, doing some arranging for us and and

662
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: really helped us harness our sound. Um. But it started

663
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,399
Speaker 1: with her. I was like, I stopped in and she's like, well,

664
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: we you know, we should get you in the studio.

665
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 1: We should write some stuff, you know. And I was like,

666
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: oh cool, and she's like, yeah, Justin's you know, I've

667
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 1: been working with Justin as well. Y'all should hang out.

668
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, let's. Even though you were

669
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: older than Justin, you are pretty close. Because when you

670
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: have a common language, there is something that overrides all

671
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 1: of other things. A lot of things did a lot

672
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: of differences disappear when you're passionate about something and you

673
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: can focus on that one thing, and it makes that

674
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: bond even stronger. So we we recognize, you know, early on,

675
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: even doing the Mouse Club, that he was a little

676
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 1: bit more mature and I was probably a little bit

677
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: more immature. So but but yeah, but when we got

678
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: to Nashville, um, I started writing songs with Robin and

679
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: he was coming from Memphis into Nashville and doing recording

680
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: sessions with Robin because he wanted to get signed, right

681
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 1: and I was looking to make music because I wanted

682
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: to eventually get signed. But I was I had two

683
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: things going. I was like, Okay, I gotta go to college,

684
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna maybe go for music, maybe go for

685
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 1: for something else. I was thinking about a lot of things,

686
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: but I knew but I always loved music. And Robin

687
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: was like, you'll regret it if you don't. At least

688
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: you know, do what you love. So let's just make

689
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 1: some music. And so we started doing that, and when

690
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: Justin popped into work on his song, we started working

691
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: on each other songs, and next thing you know, we

692
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 1: started enjoying it. So then he's like, come back to Memphis.

693
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: Don't go home yet, Like you know, it wasn't time

694
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 1: for school to start. So then I ended up going

695
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 1: back to Memphis, and you know, his mom and his

696
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: dad like welcomed me, gave you know, gave me a

697
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: room to crash in. And next thing, you know, we're

698
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: plotting and making music together and and and making demos.

699
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 1: And then I was like, all right, here's the plan.

700
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go back to

701
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: to Maryland and I'm gonna start at my school thing

702
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: and then like every month or every other month, we'll

703
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: come back down and we'll start continuing or continue to

704
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 1: work on each other's music and make some music because

705
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: we're happy because we were having fun and um. And

706
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 1: as soon as like as soon as I got home

707
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: basically from that trip I left, he called me up

708
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: and he goes, so, I have another thing to run

709
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: by you. I just got this call from this guy, Chris,

710
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: and he he said that you know, there's this there's

711
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,280
Speaker 1: a label and and they want a boy band. And

712
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,439
Speaker 1: he was like there was no turn back then either.

713
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: You didn't know what a boy band was. So he's like,

714
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: he's like, uh, they're asked me to do it. But

715
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: I was like, he's like, do you want to do it?

716
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: We could do it together. And I was like, I mean, look,

717
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: I'm willing to check it out. Let's go check it out.

718
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: And that's how I ended up getting involved. He was like,

719
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: let's go down there and see what it's about. And

720
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 1: long story short because I know most people listening to

721
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: this will know the story of InSync, but for you knew,

722
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: but he's out there. So yeah, Chris wanted to put well,

723
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: kind of got upset he didn't get to audition for

724
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: the Baxter Boys because he went to school with Howie

725
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: d um So he went to trans Con, which was

726
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 1: lou Pearlman, and said, hey, if I put a group together,

727
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 1: will you support us? And so that's when he called

728
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: justin and then he was with you. Then you ran

729
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: into Joey I think at eight Tracks maybe a Pleasure.

730
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:27,879
Speaker 1: It wasn't a pleasure. He was actually he's walking around

731
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 1: in Pleasure Island. He was allowed in everywhere you went,

732
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: and it was amazing, you know, because it was like

733
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: it was like I had been there a day, you

734
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like I was back in like Florida,

735
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: like maybe your day or two. And he looked at me, like,

736
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,240
Speaker 1: what are you doing in Florida? I thought you left,

737
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: like the mouth clubs over Da Da Da go. Yeah,

738
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 1: I moved away, I said, but uh, we we're putting

739
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 1: together a band. He's like, oh, I'm in a band

740
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 1: and I was like, uh, well, our band is gonna

741
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 1: be better. Is that the one he was with Louis Fons, Yeah? Yeah,

742
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,959
Speaker 1: so what they called this something guys the big guys

743
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 1: are like something like that and and that's horrible. Um

744
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 1: but so he was in the band with them, and

745
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,479
Speaker 1: uh and we were like, well, you know, we're we're

746
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: calling all of the favors it. And I was like,

747
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 1: we've got a guy, you know, we we're calling in, like,

748
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: we got Robbing coming down to help us work on

749
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: our sound. We're working with a choreographer, Miles that used

750
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: to do the We're calling in all the mouse club people.

751
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: We're gonna put a demo together. And he's like, We're like,

752
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 1: you know, we need we need another voice, man, we

753
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: need he's for a bass singer. At the time, we

754
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: were like, you know what we all sing, you know,

755
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 1: fairly high, you know, um and then uh no, you

756
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: look that makes you you know, irreplaceable man. But um

757
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: so yeah, I mean, long story longer, Yeah, and there

758
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 1: we go. So yeah, that's how we all got to go.

759
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 1: And then I knew Justin through a vocal coach and

760
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: recommended me a bass singer to come down. Still don't

761
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 1: know why I'll chose me, but here I am because

762
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: I did not know had a dance at all. They

763
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: needed another blonde guy and you're like, oh, he's blonde.

764
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 1: Yeah when I wouldn't have the frosted tips then, but

765
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: still no. I had orange hair then thanks to the

766
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: thanks to whoever did my hair when I first joined

767
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: in sync, because they were like, oh, you need me

768
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 1: more blonde, and then it just turned orange and it

769
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: was like a really greasy comb over. It was not pretty. Hey,

770
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,959
Speaker 1: I was going through my you know, awkward teenage years

771
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: that look at you now and look at me now

772
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:29,280
Speaker 1: so much he still has the exact same as we speak.

773
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:33,720
Speaker 1: I'm still really uncomfortable around. So those uh, the first

774
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: year that we were together, you know, we I didn't

775
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 1: know what was going on. Seriously, I was sixteen years old.

776
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 1: Y'all had been doing this for a while, so I

777
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 1: didn't know what the future of the group was. I

778
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: know that, you know, there were high hopes we would

779
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: get a record deal. Right, that didn't happen. It took

780
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,399
Speaker 1: us a little bit um we had. But I think

781
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: any any any creative business. And this is what you

782
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 1: learned through life, right through the through the long lens.

783
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 1: You hear no a lot more than you hear yes.

784
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 1: For a long time. You only get yes to death

785
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: after everybody sees you get that win, You get a win,

786
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden the yes has come too much, right, people,

787
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 1: yes you yes, you to the point where it's not healthy.

788
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:22,720
Speaker 1: So you know it's but before that real moment, everyone

789
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: says no because you know it's a bet, it's a gamble.

790
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,720
Speaker 1: You know that everyone kind of fears the unknown unless

791
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: they feel like it is a sure thing. And what

792
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: is a sure thing? Right? You have to have an

793
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: opinion about it. It's it's like it's not math like

794
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: for some people it might be, but it is about

795
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: feel and humans feel and that's you know, music and moments,

796
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: their feelings. There's no they make no sense really, you know,

797
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: it's like it's a zite guys, and it's a movement

798
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: and it's like what is that? Why? Why? Why are

799
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: bell Bottoms cool in the seventy is in not the eighties,

800
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, why do people like

801
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: guitar based stuff and want for one decade and then

802
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: like eight oh eight's the next. You know, It's like

803
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 1: there's no rhyme or reason, it's just a feel. And

804
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 1: people don't want to gamble, they want a sure thing.

805
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 1: So that's why you have to appreciate the people who

806
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: take risks based on their inner truth. Like you have

807
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 1: to be thankful for those people because they're the ones

808
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: that are innovating instead of just playing it safe to

809
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: the status. And you know, something that I didn't think

810
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: would ever happen to us. And again, sixteen years old,

811
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: I didn't know anything about the music industry, but I

812
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 1: had no idea that we would even be able to

813
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: sign to a German label. One. I didn't know that

814
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: they even had English speaking music on the radio. But

815
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you know, we've exhausted all the

816
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: labels in America. No one wanted to sign us, right,

817
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 1: no one's gonna listen to that stuff. Then all of

818
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: a sudden, Munich, Germany calls and they're like, no, we

819
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: love groups like this and we want to sign you.

820
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: In the next week. We were basically on a plane

821
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: to Germany. What was that like for you? Was that

822
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: a surprise to you or were you like, oh, yeah,

823
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 1: that's that's normal. I Look, I was in the same

824
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: boat as everybody else, Like I had done the only

825
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: thing I had done before that in in my first

826
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: trip to Europe was a USO tour. So in the

827
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 1: Mouse Club we did some USO performances for troops. But look,

828
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: it was just a matter of of having outreach, right,

829
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: Like you know, so I had been to Germany before that,

830
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: and uh, but when I went, and there was still

831
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: a bit of it, you know there years later, um,

832
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: because I would say like four or five years passed

833
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,399
Speaker 1: by between then and the last time I was there,

834
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,280
Speaker 1: it was like there when I was there, it wasn't

835
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 1: really pop music. It was like pure technically. It was

836
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 1: very techno. And so and look you here it in

837
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: our very first record. We're working with European producers and

838
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: we're trying to put our American sound and mix it

839
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: with the European sound, and that it was an experiment, right,

840
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: We were trying things because it was like we were

841
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 1: so excited to to be in like in the mix, right,

842
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: we were like, oh, somebody's giving us a chance, and

843
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,399
Speaker 1: then you get taken to a place that is so

844
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: different from yours, and all you want to do is

845
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: dive headfirst into it. You're like, I want all of this.

846
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 1: I You're so like, what is this music you're listening to?

847
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: And some of it you love and some of it

848
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: you hated, but you wanted to know more because it's

849
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: like it's new information. It's not the same thing. So

850
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,479
Speaker 1: when you go home, you're like, I got the new new.

851
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: Like we would come back to Florida, remember, and we

852
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: had just like sold out an arena or something, and

853
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 1: we'd be like, there were thirty thousand people and then

854
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: and they would go, what are you talking about? I

855
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: don't even know your last name? Like, you know, my

856
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: friends were still in high school. And I come back,

857
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: I swear to god, there's like two thousand people chasing

858
00:44:54,440 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: our busses everywhere. They're like, yes, we're un get that.

859
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: But it was it was great, Like it taught us,

860
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 1: you know what. I'm so glad we started there because

861
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: we weren't ready yet. We weren't ready, we didn't really

862
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: find our complete sound yet. We were toying. Obviously, we

863
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 1: were influenced by Boys, the Men, and a lot of

864
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 1: R and B. Right, So that's we did a lot

865
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: of acapella. But when we started, when we were able

866
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: to afford actual tracks, we were toying around with all

867
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 1: kinds of stuff, and yes, living in a foreign country,

868
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 1: we were still trying to find ourselves. But we were

869
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 1: so lucky to have been in this moment of time

870
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 1: to have found the Dennis Pop, Max Martin of it

871
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: all in Sweden. Um, so we would record in Sweden.

872
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: That's where our first hits were recorded, and that was

873
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: the Sharon Studios. Dennis Pop, you know, unfortunately passed away

874
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: not too many years after we recorded those first songs,

875
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: but Max Martin kind of took this and ran with

876
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 1: it and still to this day, right some bops. When

877
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,760
Speaker 1: we when we met with Dennis and Max and everyone

878
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 1: there in Sweden, did you know how much of a

879
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 1: powerhouse they would be? And did you learn a lot

880
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,760
Speaker 1: as a writer yourself? Did you get to learn anything

881
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: from the share on guys? You know, you never know?

882
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: You just excited again. It's just a it's a it's instincts.

883
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 1: Everything is instincts. And let me think being there there

884
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 1: was just an energy while we were there and so

885
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: you could feel that. Now you don't know how people

886
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: are going to accept it, but you know that you

887
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 1: like what you're doing. That's that's kind of the best

888
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 1: you can do. You know. You just again, you just

889
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: have to you just have to try. You just have

890
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: to trust your instincts and try. And if you don't

891
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 1: like it, leave it alone, man, and if you like it,

892
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: go for it. Remember they would play us some songs,

893
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: you know, for the next album whatever, And there was

894
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: one song they played as it was baby when the

895
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: Lights got Baby when the Lights and I was like,

896
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a good song, but we ended

897
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: up passing on it. Thank goodness, because I think that's

898
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,800
Speaker 1: when we got bye Bye Bye out because we passed

899
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: on Yeah, Like I did like that, but it was

900
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: it was just you know, the story behind that was

901
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 1: by Bye wasn't originally for us? Was it for Backstreet?

902
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: Who was? It was four or five? So we swapped songs.

903
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 1: I think that's the story that Christian told me. I

904
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: could I could be remembering it wrong, but I feel

905
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 1: like he told me years ago. He's like, you know

906
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 1: that that was originally for another pop and it was

907
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 1: the UK band and and they passed on it, and

908
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: so we pitched it to you and like the first

909
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: time we heard it, like you know, every was like, yeah, okay,

910
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,879
Speaker 1: we're recording that. You know, that's crazy to think of

911
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 1: all the different artists that could have sung some of

912
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,399
Speaker 1: our most most it was famous songs out there, right.

913
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 1: I wish there was an album that we could put

914
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: all these artists be like, well this was originally pitched

915
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: to them, but now they recorded. Yeah, there's so many

916
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 1: think about think about all the actors that passed on

917
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 1: movie roles. You know, it's like, who wish that just

918
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 1: turned down the biggest pay day ever? Matt Damon. Yeah,

919
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 1: it was like baby More More Time was for TLC. Yeah, gosh,

920
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 1: I mean you are an incredible writer right now, what

921
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,280
Speaker 1: let's go for people out there that are really wanting

922
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,439
Speaker 1: to get in the business and their writers out there.

923
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: Give us some tips. Here we go into our frosted

924
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 1: tips segment. Ready, okay, give us some frosted tips on

925
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: maybe three on how you right? What the process? Like?

926
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: What do you Okay? So first, there is no process.

927
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: I crawl into the fetal position. I'm writing this down.

928
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 1: I cry. Oh so I'm a writer all right, every

929
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 1: day and then I cry some more, and then I

930
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: blow my nose and then I cry some more. Yeah,

931
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: I feel it processed on like z gen Z likes

932
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 1: to you know, they feel like to feel the emotion

933
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: and everything ing. Um, there's no one way to do it,

934
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 1: you know. Again, And I've said this already like a

935
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 1: thousand times on our cover in our conversation, and it's

936
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 1: actually something that that the just me and I were

937
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 1: speaking about again. I told you the other night. It's

938
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:23,879
Speaker 1: like everything is it's about instincts, and your instincts are

939
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 1: are basically a barometer. I think these these are just

940
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 1: thoughts and opinions, but um, it's a barometer for truth.

941
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 1: What is what rings true to you? What? What is

942
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: what is ringing that thing inside of you? And why

943
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: would it ring it? Because it feels truthful to you.

944
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: So when you hear a song, you're like, oh, I

945
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 1: feel that they must have really felt that, you know,

946
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 1: and or something like it. You can you can feel it.

947
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 1: And it's that to me is everything. It doesn't matter.

948
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter that like how where you start, right,

949
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if you start with a lyric or

950
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: you start with the melody, or you start with a

951
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: drum pattern, or you start with the guitar, whatever you

952
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 1: start with. What matters is when you're listening to it

953
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 1: and while it's happening, does it feel true? Do you like,

954
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 1: start with a melody or a lyric lance you're not

955
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 1: listening to me. It's a feeling, a feeling. But like

956
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: with me, it's like it's always a title. I mean,

957
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: I don't write music that much at all, but like

958
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,280
Speaker 1: when it comes to TV and film, it always starts

959
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 1: with a title for me, and then I just this

960
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: title comes and then I just create this whole world

961
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 1: around it. So again, I think every song has its

962
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: own journey. Now, some happen a lot the same and

963
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 1: some you know, again, depends on every writer. I would

964
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,320
Speaker 1: say every writer's process is different. My process is different

965
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 1: almost every time. You have a huge note section, and

966
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:58,280
Speaker 1: I do have a crazy amount of voice memos and notes.

967
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:03,879
Speaker 1: But you know, it also comes from a conversation, like

968
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 1: we could probably talk, I could. I would Here's an

969
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: exercise that I've done with other writers in the past.

970
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: I'll just go yo man or whoaman or they. I

971
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 1: would say, we have to write something today. What's going

972
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 1: on in your life. Would you like to know what's

973
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:27,399
Speaker 1: going on in mind? Let's throw up you know, it's like,

974
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,760
Speaker 1: let's just put it all out there and when something,

975
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:35,240
Speaker 1: when that bell goes off, will know it will start.

976
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 1: You'll start to feel the conversation bounce faster and faster

977
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 1: and faster and faster. And so that's one process, right,

978
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 1: to just get a conversation going. Another process is to

979
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: sit down with an instrument and to noodle around until

980
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 1: something starts to feel like it's coming together. Um, but

981
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,919
Speaker 1: again it's it's different every time, you know means so yeah,

982
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: all right, let's take a little break right here, and

983
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 1: we come back. We're gonna some fun things. Turkey Church

984
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 1: and has the fan questions so many, I'm sure this

985
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 1: will be I think there's some funny ones on there.

986
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 1: So we'll be right back with frosted tips and we

987
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 1: are back with j I'm talking all over. Your intro

988
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 1: started right ahead. This is a very natural show, a

989
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 1: natural show. I don't feel natural. You look very natural.

990
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: I am actually very natural. I have been showered in

991
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 1: weeks alright, Turkey Church, and it is your time to shine. Um,

992
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,959
Speaker 1: you've been talking, by the way, I have showered, clear

993
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 1: that up, brushed my teeth? I showering. Um, so you

994
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 1: know he gets lots of messages on his d m

995
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:03,479
Speaker 1: s and do get d M Yeah, because you're social media.

996
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: I would love to read a couple of those d ms.

997
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 1: I don't make it read them over here. Yeah yeah,

998
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,479
Speaker 1: I mean you're you're okay, yeah, you're horrible at social media,

999
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 1: but at least you're on it now. Like once in

1000
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 1: a while, like like if I'm with someone, they'll go,

1001
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 1: you should put something up And I'm like, right now,

1002
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:22,879
Speaker 1: why don't you get someone to do it for you?

1003
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 1: We have a whole team. Well sometimes sometimes I'll get

1004
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: ye all that for it. They'll go, come on, man,

1005
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 1: people want to know what you're doing. And I'm like,

1006
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: why would anybody care about a base? They care? Recently

1007
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 1: I did. I made one video because I was like,

1008
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 1: they were like joining. I was like, okay, fine, how

1009
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 1: do you do it? Wait? What's your TikTok? Is just

1010
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:47,720
Speaker 1: at j You may be perfectly honest, I can't remember

1011
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: remember one of those number ones it Jac says they

1012
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 1: and to score sixty nine is all right, Let's get

1013
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:59,800
Speaker 1: to what the fans want to know. Um. Well, first

1014
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:03,359
Speaker 1: of for First of all, um, the fans want to know,

1015
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: you know, you don't have kids, but what is it

1016
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:11,399
Speaker 1: like being a daddy? Because the Twitter's fear the all

1017
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 1: of the spheres, They're like jay C is a sober

1018
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: you can't even like what what's it like being as daddy?

1019
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:22,399
Speaker 1: Or or as through the post you can't see what's

1020
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:26,319
Speaker 1: going on pictures everywhere, or or if you you know,

1021
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: associate more with Zaddy that's fine as well? Is way

1022
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 1: more fun? Is it? What's it like being a zaddy?

1023
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 1: The fans want to know? Um, well you know, uh no,

1024
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: we don't know. That's why I masked. Okay, Well it's

1025
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: it's harder to wake up in the morning, you go

1026
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: to bed earlier. Um, I have Honestly, I don't even

1027
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: know how to answer that question. I'm so uncomfortable the

1028
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: fans have to answer that question. What's it? You know?

1029
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: Why is he a daddy? Why is he? I will

1030
00:54:56,200 --> 00:55:03,919
Speaker 1: I'll say this, I adopted a dog and and so

1031
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 1: that has been fun and challenge and challenging but mostly fun.

1032
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 1: So right, yeah, I'm thankful every day that he's healthy.

1033
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: I'm thankful. Yeah, he's still biting people. No, no, he

1034
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 1: might growl. He's you know, he's he'll let you know

1035
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 1: when he's not into what you're saying or doing that.

1036
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 1: He's very expressive. Alright, turkey, you've stopped him on being

1037
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:37,800
Speaker 1: a zaddy. Think about that one. Another big fan question

1038
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 1: is do your arms still look that sexy? No, this

1039
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 1: was an extual question, absolutely not. Wait do your arms

1040
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 1: still look look that sexy? Sex? I don't. I've toned

1041
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,439
Speaker 1: down the working out. I just keep it to like

1042
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 1: an hour for a while. There you're going to jump

1043
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 1: a lot. I was going a lot. But now I've

1044
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 1: I've I've become reasonable and I'm enjoying my life more

1045
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 1: than making my body hurt, because you know, look, when

1046
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 1: you train hard, next thing, you know, you're like you're

1047
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 1: having problems with with muscles and joints and things like that.

1048
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 1: And so so now I exercise for health, not for looks.

1049
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 1: I'm injured at all times, and I don't even work

1050
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 1: out that hard like at all. We know, we know

1051
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 1: I purely work out for looks. Yeah it's a thing. No,

1052
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 1: I don't, it's for health. Okay, moving on, moving on,

1053
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 1: there's so many questions, not doing all of them. Just

1054
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 1: I know I know the paper. No, this is a

1055
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 1: summer like you know, how about this? Uh, describe your

1056
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 1: perfect day? Okay, since everyone thinks, uh, you're such a

1057
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 1: private guy, tell us a day in the life, Joshua Scott.

1058
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: I mean everything in between doesn't matter. The There's like

1059
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: three things that I care about honestly in life, and

1060
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 1: that is the happiness and health of my family, happiness

1061
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 1: and health of my loved ones, and then would we

1062
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 1: be considered your loved ones? And then um, and honestly

1063
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:07,800
Speaker 1: being proud of something that I've worked on. Like the

1064
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,919
Speaker 1: rest is kind of like I care about a lot

1065
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 1: of things. But if you like, what's the most important.

1066
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 1: You want health and happiness for your loved ones and family,

1067
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 1: And then you want to feel like you're contributing in

1068
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 1: a positive way. What's something that you feel very proud

1069
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 1: of that you've been a part of. I mean, look

1070
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 1: just about anything. Again, I'm proud to be my father's

1071
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 1: excuse me, yeah, the son of my father, the son

1072
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: of my mother. You know, I'm proud to be a

1073
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 1: brother to my sister and brother and and all my family.

1074
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 1: Like again, it's like accomplishments are basically in my mind

1075
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 1: and it's it's a bit not even spoiled to say,

1076
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 1: because we have been very fortunate in our lives to

1077
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 1: be successful, you know, And so some people would say success,

1078
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 1: success is, you know, again, not having to worry about

1079
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 1: how you're gonna eat the next day. That's that's that's

1080
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 1: bare minimum, right. But the things that I've been most

1081
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 1: proud of are just feeling good about what I'm doing, right,

1082
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 1: It's it really is a simple thing. You just want

1083
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 1: to feel good about what you're doing. Okay, here's another

1084
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 1: very hard hitting question, very hard to do you still

1085
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 1: use a flow bee for your hair? Yeah, yeah, I'm

1086
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 1: glad I cut my hair two weeks ago with the

1087
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 1: flow because last time we interviewed you, yes, we found

1088
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 1: out that you actually use a flow beef those lots

1089
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 1: of those precious was this This wasn't even a COVID thing.

1090
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: It wasn't. No, it was I got it. I got

1091
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 1: it as a gag gift on my birthday when I

1092
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 1: turned by the way, I'm in my forties now, and

1093
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 1: when I go on my twenty ninth birthday, it was.

1094
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 1: And by the way, when they bought it to give

1095
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 1: to me as a gag gift, it was vintage. I

1096
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 1: mean it had like you know, reused tape and all

1097
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:57,000
Speaker 1: this stuff all over it. So I got somebody else's

1098
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 1: flow bath, which is kind of disgusting when you think

1099
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 1: about it. But but yeah, so I gotta hand me

1100
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 1: down flowby as a joke. And then one at one

1101
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 1: point I was like, you damn me to use it

1102
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: like and then all sudden I was like, it's not

1103
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: so bad. It kind of feels good. It's like it's

1104
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:15,959
Speaker 1: like that it makes your head nice and cool because

1105
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 1: the hair is rushing, and all of a sudden, you're like,

1106
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 1: and I'm accomplishing something because I'm I feel good and

1107
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 1: I'm getting a haircut, and you're getting a nice even haircut,

1108
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 1: and I'm doing it by myself. I'm not bothering anybody.

1109
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 1: That is one thing I remember about you on the road.

1110
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 1: You loved getting your hair washed at a at a salon,

1111
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 1: like to get a haircut like this. You're the one

1112
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 1: who taught me, like you gotta get the hair washed,

1113
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 1: you gotta get there. I'm like, I never did that before,

1114
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 1: Like this is you didn't dream big. I didn't know

1115
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 1: you could get your hair washed. I mean I went

1116
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 1: to you know, a barber. Yeah, you'd like your hair.

1117
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 1: What I'm my lord, I didn't drink Yeah, now I'm

1118
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 1: obsessed with it. Yeah. Any others you got, Like what's

1119
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 1: the last big splurreds? Like I always like to know,

1120
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 1: like different, what have you splurged on last with his

1121
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 1: clothing or something a big purchase? You're not a big splurge, No,

1122
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 1: I'm not. You've been in the same house since I

1123
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 1: feel like Lance likes the guy by Shoes, since I

1124
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 1: came to the picture. I'm not like a I'm not

1125
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 1: a thing person. Um, but I'll splurge on experiences. Right,

1126
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 1: So it's like when uh it's nice, I like creating

1127
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 1: memories with people and so that that that's the splurge thing, right.

1128
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 1: So if i'm if, it's a travel thing usually. So

1129
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 1: let's let's get into your first album. Um, because it's

1130
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 1: so weird to think back then, A lot of people

1131
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 1: are like, wow, it's so risque, right, Oh my gosh,

1132
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 1: it's such a departure for Jason. It's funny because today

1133
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 1: there's no way that album could be risque like at all.

1134
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 1: But when it did come out and you were coming

1135
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:49,280
Speaker 1: at the end of you know, it was a different time.

1136
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 1: You were just coming out of a boy band and

1137
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 1: it was a little bit of a departure. Um, how

1138
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 1: did that process go where you? Did you want something

1139
01:00:57,160 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 1: that sounded completely different from in sync, that was more yourself?

1140
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 1: But I mean, did you or did you even like Carrot?

1141
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 1: It's just whatever came flowing out of it. There were

1142
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 1: two There were two things that I was thinking about

1143
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 1: when I was making that record. And the one thing,

1144
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 1: you know, was look, I just wanted it to be good.

1145
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 1: I wanted to be interesting, um, because the artists that

1146
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 1: I've liked I always found were interesting in their storytelling. Um.

1147
01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 1: And the other thing that I wanted to do was

1148
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 1: go wherever it was that was next. I didn't want

1149
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 1: to make a record that I had already made, if

1150
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 1: that makes sense. I didn't want to make something that

1151
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 1: I had already done. I was looking for, like what's next?

1152
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 1: And how do you find what's next? It just what

1153
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 1: you brain? Or do you get influenced by listening to

1154
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 1: artists in Germany? Um? I just think it's it's a

1155
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 1: combination of all things. You just kind of have to

1156
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 1: listen to the world around you, and you also again

1157
01:01:54,200 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 1: trust your instincts and play like don't don't. I would say,

1158
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 1: do what you did before. If your pattern was to,

1159
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 1: you know, start this way, try doing try starting somewhere else.

1160
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 1: So if if you nine times out of ten started

1161
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 1: writing a song with a word in mind, this time right,

1162
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 1: you know, start it, you know again, with an instrument instead,

1163
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 1: And and so I think that was part of it.

1164
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 1: And then it was also like, Okay, everyone is making

1165
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 1: songs that sound like this, they're using the same sounds.

1166
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:39,360
Speaker 1: Like everyone's using the same sounds, So let me find

1167
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 1: a collection of sounds that I like that aren't the

1168
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 1: same sounds that everyone else is using. And then let

1169
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 1: me build something a body of work around maybe a

1170
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 1: few of these things. And that's kind of where I started,

1171
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 1: and who knows where I ended up. I mean, I

1172
01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:58,959
Speaker 1: look at it now, and there's go It made sense

1173
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 1: to me. But you know, and what was the reason

1174
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 1: you didn't want to do a follow up album where

1175
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 1: you just kind of over it? At that point I started,

1176
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 1: I started to I've recorded a few things, and then

1177
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 1: it was just kind of like, if you're not in

1178
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 1: love with what you're doing at the time, like you

1179
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 1: if you're not committed and you're not all in, You're

1180
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 1: gonna waste everyone's time. And so I was getting to

1181
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 1: the point where I didn't feel like I was innovating.

1182
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 1: I felt like I was making part two of the

1183
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 1: thing that I are already done. And uh. I experimented

1184
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 1: for a while with it, but then it just it

1185
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 1: didn't feel like I was moving the conversation forward. I

1186
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 1: felt like I was having the same conversation and that

1187
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 1: didn't make me happy. So well as an outsider, I

1188
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 1: you know, looking at your album, I was pissed on

1189
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 1: how JIB did it. And I can talk about job

1190
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 1: now because they're no longer around, but I saw what

1191
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 1: they did with Justin's album, I saw what they did

1192
01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 1: with your album, and I was like, are they purposely

1193
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 1: trying to like sabotage you in a way because I

1194
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 1: did not see the same effort with your role out

1195
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 1: than his, And I'm like, what the hell is going on?

1196
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 1: And then there's the and see if this rumor is

1197
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 1: true the whole Pro Bowl thing. You were supposed to

1198
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 1: do the Pro Bowl, I think with your first launch,

1199
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 1: and then they canceled it because of the Janet Jackson

1200
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 1: boom thing. Is that true? I didn't say yes, but

1201
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 1: that's I mean, that's the rumors. Man, that's not that

1202
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 1: you're just stupid. You're gonna like cancel something over here

1203
01:04:31,720 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 1: just because someone you're related to did something way over here.

1204
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 1: You say that though, but look people have like it's look,

1205
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 1: you just got punished for someone else. That just that's

1206
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 1: so stupid to me. But that's not on anyone. We're

1207
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 1: not the decision makers, right, We're the guests in that situation.

1208
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 1: So I understand that, and I understand that people have

1209
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 1: to have a bit of a reaction to to do

1210
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:00,160
Speaker 1: what they think is right. And I'm I'm not I'm

1211
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 1: not the kind of person who cries over spelled milk

1212
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 1: or punishes anybody for for for something, you know, that's

1213
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 1: what we're here, that's gonna say. That's no. I just

1214
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 1: think it's kind of like a series of unfortunate events, right,

1215
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 1: Like that's just the way I view it. It's like, hey, man,

1216
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:19,440
Speaker 1: it happened. Well, it's a big thing on the Twitter

1217
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 1: and everything is has tag justice for j C. It's

1218
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 1: a really big thing. Justice for j C is the

1219
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 1: trending hashtag is nice over the Pro Bowl. No, just

1220
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 1: not in terms of all of it. I mean you do.

1221
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 1: You trend a lot. I mean when when we did Coachella,

1222
01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 1: you know, a few years back. I mean, you are

1223
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 1: the number one trending thing for a couple of days.

1224
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 1: I mean, how did that must have filmed? Great? Don't

1225
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 1: even know that, Like, how do you count? You're not

1226
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 1: on social media, so you don't really know what's going on,

1227
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 1: especially at that time. I don't think you even had

1228
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:49,720
Speaker 1: a TikTok. Just singularly you were trending for, not even

1229
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 1: think it was j C was trending. So, I mean

1230
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 1: the fans they want it, they want it. So are

1231
01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 1: you is there anything that they're going to be able

1232
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 1: to listen to from you in the next few years?

1233
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 1: Are you working on any even like a single or

1234
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 1: something else for someone else? It's it's interesting. Look, I'm

1235
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 1: always were, you know, being creative, and I've written a

1236
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 1: few things that you know, actually I found out recently

1237
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 1: might find a home with some pretty interesting people. Um.

1238
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 1: But the thing, the thing that I've been committed to

1239
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 1: over the last year or two now two years, Um,

1240
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:27,080
Speaker 1: I've been writing a musical and so I wonder if

1241
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 1: we could talk about that. I mean, I don't know

1242
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 1: how much we can say about it. But that's been

1243
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 1: a really fun thing for me. Um. So it's a

1244
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 1: totally different experience because you know, you're tying in so

1245
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 1: many pieces, um, and you have to be really clever

1246
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 1: about it feeling natural. Um. You know, when you're dealing

1247
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:55,960
Speaker 1: with the musical, the worst thing that you can do,

1248
01:06:56,400 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 1: at least in my experience in watching some musicals, it's

1249
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 1: like some you're like, where did that come from? Like

1250
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 1: why did they just bust out to that? You know,

1251
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 1: and when you watch a good musical, it feels natural.

1252
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 1: And so that's been a fun part of the process.

1253
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 1: And uh, those take years. Well I didn't know this

1254
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 1: at the time. When I started it. I just look,

1255
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 1: it was something that I was inspired by, and so

1256
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 1: I went in, you know, full speed. And then you know,

1257
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 1: now that I'm in it like a year and a

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01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 1: half or whatever, it's going to be, you know, two

1259
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:35,040
Speaker 1: years in the summer. Uh. Yeah, they they told me

1260
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:37,439
Speaker 1: when I played I literally played it for the first

1261
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 1: time for somebody like just a little while back. I

1262
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 1: played the first piece and we have a full body

1263
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 1: of work, but it's we're making some changes now. But um,

1264
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 1: I was like they were like, okay, so here's the process.

1265
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 1: Actually you know it. It was I went and saw Juliet,

1266
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 1: it was Max. So when I was talking to Max

1267
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 1: and he's like, he goes, so this thing took me

1268
01:07:57,120 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 1: eight years. And I was like, what, You're the big

1269
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 1: a songwriter on earth. He goes, this, this took me

1270
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 1: eight years to make. And I'm thinking, okay, well, people

1271
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 1: take a year. Some people make an album in six months.

1272
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:12,680
Speaker 1: Average people take like they like to take a good year,

1273
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 1: maybe two. And that's old school mentality. So when he

1274
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 1: told me the musical took you know, by the way,

1275
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:22,879
Speaker 1: not to get made, but to make it to Broadway.

1276
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 1: So he was he was up in London. I went

1277
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 1: and saw the premier in London. Years yeah, and then

1278
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 1: he just did it up in New York and I

1279
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 1: went and I saw him there and actually got to

1280
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 1: chat with him a bit, and and he's like, yeah,

1281
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:36,760
Speaker 1: this this like eight years. And I was like, yeah,

1282
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 1: because once the book is done, then you gotta work

1283
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 1: like previews and all that. I mean, who knows where

1284
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:43,640
Speaker 1: you're gonna do that. Vin Hanson he was working on

1285
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 1: it for and then to even get it to Broadway,

1286
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 1: to even find a theater that you can get into.

1287
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:51,880
Speaker 1: It's just it is an undertaking. It is, but I'll

1288
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 1: tell I'll tell you this. It's been some of the

1289
01:08:56,360 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 1: most fun I've had in forever because you know, look,

1290
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 1: I like the subject matter and so um to to

1291
01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:08,720
Speaker 1: get into that stuff every day and find ways to

1292
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:12,680
Speaker 1: connect it emotionally, there's been a ton of fun. It's

1293
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:16,880
Speaker 1: it's been exhausting and exciting at the same time. It's

1294
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 1: it's a great story. It's about Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer.

1295
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:23,800
Speaker 1: It's not, but it's a new telling where he was

1296
01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 1: on crack for a bit, and so it's coming back

1297
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:34,840
Speaker 1: to turn. I mean, you're a deep writer. Okay, one

1298
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:36,320
Speaker 1: question before we take a break, and then we're gonna

1299
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 1: co back. Because we always like to always like it's

1300
01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:41,040
Speaker 1: our first show. We're always going to like to end with.

1301
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:44,000
Speaker 1: Am I gonna set a precedent? Are you call my friend?

1302
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 1: But we have um an old I think Bob magazine quiz.

1303
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:49,680
Speaker 1: I don't want to see if you're guarantee you I

1304
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 1: fail this. What's your favorite color? I like rainbows? But

1305
01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 1: before we go there, everyone wants to know. Of course,

1306
01:09:59,160 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 1: we're still in our high atis coming from you. Do

1307
01:10:05,920 --> 01:10:13,639
Speaker 1: you think we'll ever do anything again, anything ever, anything, Sure, okay,

1308
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 1: but I'd have no idea when or what it is.

1309
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 1: All right, yeah, man, it's like because I'll never forget

1310
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:25,679
Speaker 1: an MTV Christmas special. And it was we had already

1311
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 1: decided we were going to go on our six month hiatus,

1312
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 1: so we're doing it in Orlando, the Christmas Special and uh,

1313
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 1: we were upstairs and it was in a hotel room,

1314
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 1: but it had an upstairs and we were on the

1315
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 1: bed and that's when Justin came to us and said, Hey,

1316
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 1: on our time off, I'm gonna work on our solo album.

1317
01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 1: We're like, yeah, that's awesome. And I remember you you

1318
01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:46,479
Speaker 1: commented to me, You're like, oh, I think that might

1319
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 1: be the end. And I'm like, what I thought? That

1320
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:52,400
Speaker 1: was so like, that's ridiculous, not even think and it

1321
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 1: was how are you so insightful? At like that time.

1322
01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:59,639
Speaker 1: I think it's just it felt like the evolution. Yeah, yeah,

1323
01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 1: it felt so naive. It was it was look, it was,

1324
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:06,640
Speaker 1: it was it was the journey, and I think it

1325
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:08,719
Speaker 1: it happened the way it was supposed to happen. That's

1326
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:10,679
Speaker 1: that's the reality of it. And you could feel it

1327
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:15,559
Speaker 1: and uh, but you know, look again, I I don't

1328
01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:19,400
Speaker 1: think you know that anything is happening right now. Obviously

1329
01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:24,760
Speaker 1: it's not. But yeah, you know, but for for such

1330
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:26,639
Speaker 1: a long time ever, it was like never never, never,

1331
01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 1: never never. But then then you realize as you get older,

1332
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 1: maybe maybe you just soften up a bit and you're like,

1333
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:37,479
Speaker 1: it's probably a never, but I won't say never, So

1334
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:39,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's probably the best way to say.

1335
01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:44,760
Speaker 1: So fans hate that answer. Yeah, well, alright, come back,

1336
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 1: We're gonna see if j C here and matches. Oh

1337
01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 1: you're doing it to me too, or I guess I'm

1338
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:52,639
Speaker 1: getting quiz to let's see if we're still the same

1339
01:11:52,720 --> 01:12:08,640
Speaker 1: from right back. Welcome back to Frosted Tips. All right,

1340
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 1: we got j C. Shose with us on our very

1341
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:16,400
Speaker 1: first episode. Alright, Turkey church in here. My lovely over

1342
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:19,240
Speaker 1: there just passed me his page. Wait, you're gonna ask

1343
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:20,439
Speaker 1: me the question. No, I just want to see the

1344
01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 1: picture here. Now, those are some real frosted tips. Those

1345
01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 1: are the money of the tips. You know, I did

1346
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:29,200
Speaker 1: my hair like that. I remember that era because he

1347
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:33,920
Speaker 1: loves from Aqua. Come on, I was obsessed. Might have

1348
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 1: had a crush on him, uh, and I wanted my

1349
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 1: hair just like his, So I went away. I thought

1350
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 1: you were obsessed with Susan powder. Yes, and Susan powder.

1351
01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 1: And apparently Sarah Michelle Geller that was my go to

1352
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:51,599
Speaker 1: who's your crush? Sarah Michelle Geller? That was it just

1353
01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:55,920
Speaker 1: because she's every man's dream and she's so hot and

1354
01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 1: I want to like, she's going hello Buffy the Vampire

1355
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 1: last Yeah. Yeah, we just ran into her and I oh,

1356
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:04,759
Speaker 1: she was at that wedding we went to. She was,

1357
01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 1: He was Freddy Prince, still going strong, going strong. Okay,

1358
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:11,639
Speaker 1: give it to us. So here's a quiz from their

1359
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 1: simple questions. I think it's from right, is this team machine?

1360
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:20,439
Speaker 1: Bob uh? It's teen teen something? Speaking of how did

1361
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 1: uh scootle Braun? You know he bought bought magazine and

1362
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:27,679
Speaker 1: teen Machine and all those teen magazines not too long ago,

1363
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:29,960
Speaker 1: and then they all went away. I wonder why. But

1364
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:32,280
Speaker 1: he couldn't do anything with it since he has such

1365
01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:35,839
Speaker 1: the young artist, right, I mean he might be cooking

1366
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 1: something up. You don't know. Okay. The other thing is

1367
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 1: is it would you ask him? He's not a boy band.

1368
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:42,800
Speaker 1: He can't be on frost of tips. Did he have

1369
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:44,840
Speaker 1: frost to tips? I guess you can be on the

1370
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:47,240
Speaker 1: show if you had frost of tips. So, Ryan Seacrest,

1371
01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 1: you can't have all these rules. Man, you better open up.

1372
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:55,080
Speaker 1: You better. If you want guests, you better keep your

1373
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:57,840
Speaker 1: door open. I mean, there is a finite amount of

1374
01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:00,960
Speaker 1: boy band members out of this say you will have

1375
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:03,080
Speaker 1: to can be a boy banded jay because you could. Yeah,

1376
01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:05,640
Speaker 1: you're gonna, You're gonna. You should probably talk like you

1377
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:08,639
Speaker 1: said to to managers. People would probably want some insight

1378
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 1: in that. You might want to talk to choreographers. You

1379
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 1: might want to talk to people girls who have dated

1380
01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 1: boy banders and get all the real guy talk to

1381
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 1: Gloria over there. Oh that was a hot little minute.

1382
01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:24,519
Speaker 1: Y'all dated. Okay, here's another thing I did not know,

1383
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:27,280
Speaker 1: because you you know, Justice dated all kinds of starletts,

1384
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 1: you know, even was the you know, the most visible.

1385
01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 1: But he was telling me that you dated Tara Reid.

1386
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:37,760
Speaker 1: We were friends. Because I was like, I don't remember that.

1387
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:41,560
Speaker 1: He goes I swear. I'm like, I don't know, but

1388
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:43,280
Speaker 1: it was when I was over in Russia, So I'm like, well,

1389
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 1: maybe he had this little brief they definitely dated. By

1390
01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:48,519
Speaker 1: the way Terry read, have you checked her TikTok out lately?

1391
01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 1: You'll need to be TikTok friends. Well, well, yeah, that

1392
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:53,200
Speaker 1: was that would be that would be a thing. Well

1393
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:55,719
Speaker 1: it's a thrill. I just I'm not gonna make comments

1394
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:58,200
Speaker 1: on it. See it. Wait what is her TikTok like?

1395
01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:02,719
Speaker 1: I don't know, But there's a second there's a second

1396
01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 1: time in the Britney Spears to talk about Brittany. I

1397
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 1: would kind of like to bring that up. Um, well,

1398
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:13,679
Speaker 1: especially now, I just feel like, you know, mental health

1399
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 1: is such a huge thing that everyone is finally discussing

1400
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:20,160
Speaker 1: and talking about. And you know, this business can be hard.

1401
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 1: I mean you have to have a thick skin, which

1402
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:25,719
Speaker 1: most people don't, um, and it can just affect you. Uh,

1403
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:28,599
Speaker 1: and we see that with people like you know, Amanda Binds,

1404
01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:31,320
Speaker 1: you know what Brittany is going through and uh, Kanye

1405
01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 1: West right now, Um, you know that there's something, there's

1406
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 1: something off right. And my thing that I keep seeing

1407
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:42,519
Speaker 1: that's making it worse is you know, and we love

1408
01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:45,760
Speaker 1: you fans out there and their majority incredible fans, but

1409
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:50,160
Speaker 1: I think there's that little section of fans that enable

1410
01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:54,599
Speaker 1: people like a Kanye West and a Brittney spears, especially

1411
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:57,320
Speaker 1: on social media, and I think that can be, you know,

1412
01:15:57,400 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 1: like a little dangerous. So what's your take on like

1413
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 1: the Kanye West thing right now? If you don't have

1414
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:09,000
Speaker 1: anything nice to say? Yes, shut up? Yeah, yeah that's

1415
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 1: what That's what I like it. And on that note,

1416
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 1: let's get to the nineties quiz. Um, all right, we'll

1417
01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 1: go back and forth. I'll sit over here. Um yeah,

1418
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 1: start with ceover here. Okay, Well they're pretty easy, they're

1419
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:25,320
Speaker 1: just straightforward. I could favorite this favorite that. Um. I

1420
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:30,240
Speaker 1: like this one because I like Lance's answer here. Um. Yeah,

1421
01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 1: that's what I was about to ask. What are the

1422
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:33,560
Speaker 1: qualities you look for in a girl? Um? Okay it

1423
01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:38,000
Speaker 1: she has to be sweet. Um, I'm pretty sure I

1424
01:16:38,080 --> 01:16:40,479
Speaker 1: was very I'm gonna love your answer because clearly you're

1425
01:16:40,479 --> 01:16:43,599
Speaker 1: afraid of girl sex. I like a good girl, someone

1426
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:49,880
Speaker 1: who's very innocent, very innocent, very religious, that wants to

1427
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 1: wait until marriage. Yes, is that what I said? Yeah? Okay,

1428
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:55,519
Speaker 1: I want a good girl who was very innocent. And

1429
01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:58,720
Speaker 1: I still say that today, perfect j C. What do

1430
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:01,320
Speaker 1: you look for your your number one quality in a woman?

1431
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 1: My number one quality in a woman. Uh, he said boobs.

1432
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:11,280
Speaker 1: It was a boobs. No, okay, it wasn't. No, it's

1433
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:18,320
Speaker 1: not joey honestly, first everything else like whatever, Yes, that

1434
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:23,400
Speaker 1: was one of you said, confidence, patience, and honesty. Look

1435
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:27,040
Speaker 1: at you consistent? Okay, okay, we got that. What were

1436
01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:30,599
Speaker 1: your favorite hobbies back then? You listed three? I listed

1437
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:35,360
Speaker 1: three hobbies? Um, probably sleeping, sleeping and sleeping. He was

1438
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:39,360
Speaker 1: a sleeper listening. You liked football, swimming, and karate swimming.

1439
01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 1: Wait what karate? Football? Swimming and karate? What did you do?

1440
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:47,040
Speaker 1: I never did karate? So they literally made that answer up.

1441
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:52,479
Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't feel that part out right now.

1442
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:55,599
Speaker 1: Swimming it must have been because when we were all

1443
01:17:55,640 --> 01:17:57,240
Speaker 1: like lived in that house, we had a pool in

1444
01:17:57,240 --> 01:17:59,720
Speaker 1: the backyard. But that makes no sense, Like Lance, what

1445
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:03,000
Speaker 1: was your favorite hobby? Oh, definitely jet skiing, Yes, that

1446
01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:05,679
Speaker 1: was it. Did you not peak at this? No? Because

1447
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:08,920
Speaker 1: it still is one of my favorite hobbies. Because when

1448
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:11,760
Speaker 1: was the last time you wrote? A jet ski? Not

1449
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:13,920
Speaker 1: too long ago? It was in the ocean in Portafarta

1450
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:20,840
Speaker 1: years ago, many many cod Yeah, three years ago. It's

1451
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:23,920
Speaker 1: my favorite, Like it's my favorite thing. I've done it

1452
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:26,720
Speaker 1: twice and I haven't done it in years, and I

1453
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 1: can go anytime I want. Yeah, it's true. What's your

1454
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:36,160
Speaker 1: favorite film? Uh? That changes a lot right now? Man,

1455
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:40,519
Speaker 1: what was it? What was it in ninety, in the

1456
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:43,519
Speaker 1: nineties or whatever, two thousands, it's going to be Star Wars,

1457
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 1: I'm guessing, but now it's it's totally anything. I mean,

1458
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 1: by the way, no, no, no, because I still don't

1459
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:51,760
Speaker 1: get me wrong, I love Star Wars. But now I've

1460
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:54,760
Speaker 1: turned into that person that it's like the next film

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Speaker 1: that you see is like your favorite film, like, oh,

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Speaker 1: it's so good you know pants? You know what his answer? God,

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Speaker 1: I hope so's clue? Um, your yeah, clue. I'm a

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Speaker 1: huge fan of that film. It still is my favorite movie.

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Speaker 1: Though this year it was that I can't ever remember

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Speaker 1: the title everywhere everything so good, sauage fingers. God, it

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Speaker 1: was just a surprise, like, holy crap, that was a movie.

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Speaker 1: Who's your favorite movie? Stars? Movie stars? We see again?

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Speaker 1: It was singular. It would change now you had to

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Speaker 1: I had to. Um, I'm gonna say probably probably if

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Speaker 1: I like Star Wars, I'll probably say Harrison Ford one,

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Speaker 1: and then um, who would be the other actor? It's

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Speaker 1: going to be Hillary Swank put Meg Ryan because because

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Speaker 1: I used to, like, you know what, I used to

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Speaker 1: love those little rom com French. I mean, I've pretty

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Speaker 1: much had a crush on Meg Ryan. I'm sure, but

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Speaker 1: I bet, I said Julia Robertson Tomas No, you said

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Speaker 1: terror read just now you said Tom Hanks. Okay, what's

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Speaker 1: your favorite food now? Or then? Then? Okay? Because see

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Speaker 1: again you're so I have to get it. I'm talking

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Speaker 1: to you as if you are like years this is

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Speaker 1: the new me, that's the old mean, we don't look back.

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Speaker 1: We don't look back. Wasn't my favorite back then? Any

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Speaker 1: any it's gonna be something. It's going to probably be

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Speaker 1: like an Asian food maybe, yeah, yeah, Chinese? That was it? Lance,

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Speaker 1: what was your favorite food? You're Italian? Like French toast? Yes,

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Speaker 1: the Lances. Basically, what this proves is Lance is not evolved.

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Speaker 1: I have not evolved at all. Then we have that's

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Speaker 1: two more question. It's this thinks this is very vague.

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Speaker 1: Loves you love dogs? J C. Wrote Shakespeare. I do

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Speaker 1: know Shakespearean karate it was you know, it's like you

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Speaker 1: go through phases though, right like you're like you're learning

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01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:09,400
Speaker 1: about your crash. So it's like I was going through

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Speaker 1: a Shakespeare fans But my Greek phase was probably like

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Speaker 1: three or four years. I was obsessed with all the Greeks. Ce.

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Speaker 1: J C was the one you wanted to marry, and

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Speaker 1: I was the one who wanted to be best friends.

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Speaker 1: That was also a popular hashtag Mary and j C.

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Speaker 1: That's the thing on on the social not the one

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Speaker 1: you think you'll ever get married. You're just you're not.

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01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:29,720
Speaker 1: You're There's so many of my friends that are like, no,

1502
01:21:29,960 --> 01:21:32,559
Speaker 1: never ever want to be That's a that's a weird

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Speaker 1: question for me, would it I don't know. Yes, I

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01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:38,880
Speaker 1: just if they wanted it more than you. I don't know.

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01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:43,000
Speaker 1: That's a loaded question. I'm not I'm not. I'm not touching.

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Speaker 1: The next episode, um and then hates hates um anything bad.

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01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:54,240
Speaker 1: You said your hair? Well, yeah, you hated the Frosted

1508
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:56,960
Speaker 1: Tips and now you have an entire program that was

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Speaker 1: right after my Orange come over. So yeah, I hated it.

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Speaker 1: And j hates liars liars. He likes honesty guys, unless

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Speaker 1: unless they know karate Kate. Oh, j C. It was

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Speaker 1: so good having you on our first episode of Frosted Tips.

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Speaker 1: It was my worst nightmare. Well that's what that's what

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Speaker 1: we're here for. Is there anything that you would like

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01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:23,479
Speaker 1: to tell these lovely listeners out there that we didn't

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Speaker 1: get to talk about. Anything you want to say, Hey,

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Speaker 1: this is coming out, you should see this? Or is

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01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:30,479
Speaker 1: there a movie you like? You know, or a flavor

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01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:36,160
Speaker 1: of ice cream they should try see. This is for

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Speaker 1: the camera. They held me in this room captive for hours.

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01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:49,640
Speaker 1: I had no way out. They locked the door. My

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Speaker 1: jeans are glued to the chair. I'm not gonna as

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Speaker 1: we have. We have peanuts and and pretzels, so we're good.

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Speaker 1: We could be here and they ran out of coffee.

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Speaker 1: Well sorry, all right, see you so let me out.

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Speaker 1: Very good to see you, but we do have to

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Speaker 1: shout out a J. McLean is his birthday today? All right, guys,

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Speaker 1: Well we'll see you next time on Frosted Tips lands Bass. Hey,

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01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:20,000
Speaker 1: thanks for listening. Follow us on Instagram at Frosted Tips

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Speaker 1: with Lance and Michael Church in art and at Lance

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Speaker 1: Bass for all your pop culture needs, and make sure

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Speaker 1: six If you can see you next time.