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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. We are excited because

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Speaker 1: we have the whole gang back again. If you listened

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Speaker 1: last week, I introduced my team to you. I have Kyle, Sarah,

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Speaker 1: and Esteban here and we're just going to go over

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Speaker 1: some news of the week. I guess stories of the day,

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Speaker 1: and each of us brought one, So I'm going to

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Speaker 1: start off because I wanted to get everyone's opinion on

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Speaker 1: this one. Have you heard of this new bill in

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Speaker 1: Illinois where they are now going to change legally change

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Speaker 1: the name of the word offender to justice impacted individual,

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Speaker 1: So anyone who is a criminal, well now instead of

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Speaker 1: which I don't even think that's a good description of

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Speaker 1: someone like this didn't happen to them. They did this,

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Speaker 1: But this goes to this new theory of we should

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Speaker 1: be catering to criminals and where does this leave victims

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Speaker 1: when they do this? Bier than that the cost to

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Speaker 1: change all this because now everything has to be changed,

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Speaker 1: so it's like it reminds me of when Whitmer's administration

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Speaker 1: came into Michigan and they changed the environmental Agency to

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Speaker 1: be named Eagle and it was like the most expensive

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Speaker 1: letter had changed in the history of Michigan. Because you

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Speaker 1: change something like this, everything has to be reprinted. Someone

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Speaker 1: has to go in and change all the names. But

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Speaker 1: I just think it's ridiculous. So I wanted your opinions

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Speaker 1: on it.

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Speaker 2: Wait, so what, so what is the what's the term?

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Speaker 1: So it's now going instead of offender, it's now going

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Speaker 1: to be justice impacted individual?

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Speaker 2: How does that work for like multiple offenders? Is it

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Speaker 2: multiple justices impacted?

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Speaker 3: But also, yeah, you've brought up the victims. The victims

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Speaker 3: are also justice impacted.

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Speaker 1: If are justice impacted like these people are not, they

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Speaker 1: can be positive.

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Speaker 4: Justice to me is justice served. That's a positive thing.

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Speaker 4: So you're calling a criminal.

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Speaker 1: But this past it's going to the governor and you

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Speaker 1: know that that guy's going to sign it. So this

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Speaker 1: is going to be their new law that they have

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Speaker 3: And who do they really think they're kidding because everybody knows.

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Speaker 3: So now if you have an employer and you can't

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Speaker 3: say offender anymore, so you're using this silly term. Everybody

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Speaker 3: knows what it means. So what do they think they're

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Speaker 3: actually accomplishing?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: I think that they do. They are lessening the impact

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Speaker 1: of what these people have done. And I don't understand

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Speaker 1: why this is the new thing to go out and

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Speaker 1: make people who commit crimes feel as though they are

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Speaker 1: somehow the victim and we have to change what we

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Speaker 1: call people who are the bad guy to make them

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Speaker 1: feel better. Why is that the case? Everyone just laughing.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what is happening, Esteban.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not I'm not. I want to preface

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Speaker 2: this by saying I've never been arrested as far as

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Speaker 2: I know, and I'm not justice impact.

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Speaker 1: Yea, we backcheck, we fact checked you are we very well?

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Speaker 2: I just you know, I think that it's it's it's

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Speaker 2: a headline thing, right where if I mean, people are

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Speaker 2: too deeply into it, and that's what they're hoping.

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Speaker 4: But is this a good headline? I don't actually think

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Speaker 4: this is a good headline.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think it's it's more advertising to dumb people,

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Speaker 2: you know, people who just don't care about it, Like

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Speaker 2: like you can you can claim that somebody is an

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Speaker 2: their day. They're not going to click on the article.

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Speaker 2: They're not going to click on the you know, the

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Speaker 2: report or anything like that. You put it as what

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Speaker 2: is it justice impacted individual? Yeah, they're still not going

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Speaker 2: to care. But they're going to think, oh, crime is

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Speaker 1: So is that the So you think that's the reason

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Speaker 1: when people are very upset about crime, and they don't

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Speaker 1: think I'm maybe I'm wrong, but I think that people

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Speaker 1: come on, guys, is that what we're doing? But maybe not.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I'm just naive to how I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, it's a lot easier to do this than to

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Speaker 2: fix a crime problem in Illinois. Right this is Illinois,

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Speaker 2: so you've got Chicago. I mean that it's a lot

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Speaker 2: easier to use, you know, to use an old phrase.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you you can put lipstick on a pig,

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Speaker 2: and that's what this is. I mean, you're just painting

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Speaker 1: Why is this is the youngest.

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Speaker 3: Yes that's a good saying, by the way, or sunglasses

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Speaker 3: on a governor what I guess? I just think it

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Speaker 3: just seems to me like they're just they're trying to

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Speaker 3: what Esteban said. But at the end of the day,

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Speaker 3: people are this is not changing anything for people that

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Speaker 3: it may be. It's not changing their life. And so

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Speaker 3: the government can come up with all of these silly

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Speaker 3: things and you know, make I guess, make the offenders

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Speaker 3: but it ultimately is not changing anything because it's not

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Speaker 4: This may take us on a long path, but is

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Speaker 4: this retroactive? If you've been an offender before, are you

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Speaker 4: going to go back and change all of those.

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Speaker 1: Records too, That's what I'm saying. I mean, I would

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Speaker 1: if some another case comes back up or that case

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Speaker 1: gets reintroduced, or do you change it then? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: But regardless, I think to what you're saying, Kyle, it

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Speaker 1: goes beyond what most people think about until it happens

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Speaker 1: to them, Because if you are the victim of a crime,

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Speaker 1: you're probably not thinking about this if you're not the

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Speaker 1: victim of a crime. And I think most of the

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Speaker 1: people that do this are not generally victims of crime.

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Speaker 1: But now we've seen a lot more people, like in

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Speaker 1: you know, comics and people who are on TV every

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Speaker 1: when the criminal is being coddled with these names that

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Speaker 1: make you think their justice has somehow been impacted. I mean,

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Speaker 1: when I listen to that term, I think that this

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Speaker 1: when we look at Chicago, which we know has a

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Speaker 1: how many of those people look at this and they

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Speaker 1: just go this kind of talk is insane, but ultimately

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Speaker 1: we talk about things. How belittled are victims going to

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Speaker 1: Then eventually, like what happens, does everybody just leave Illinois?

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Speaker 1: Because there's been people leaving Chicago for a long time,

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Speaker 1: and now you see I mean, in twenty twenty, we

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Speaker 1: we see that in California. I mean, it's just crazy.

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Speaker 1: But I want to move on because I know you

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Speaker 1: have a story out of Michigan that is about our

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Speaker 1: to people who are listening what's really going on. Kyle

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Speaker 1: has historically, throughout his career kind of followed what's happening

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Speaker 1: in schools, how they're spending money, and it is really

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Speaker 1: an area where there's no accountability. So I want you

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So a story we recently had at the Midwesterner

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Speaker 3: is we have not heard a lot from school districts

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Speaker 3: about budget cuts because schools, because of all the pandemic

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Speaker 3: have not had budget problems except for ann Arbor Public Schools,

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Speaker 3: and they have been going through all of this chaos

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Speaker 3: there's a number of reasons why that happened. Of course,

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Speaker 3: you know, all we hear about is and what we

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Speaker 3: you know, we're not the problem and all of that.

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Speaker 3: And I think they individually are not the problem. But

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Speaker 3: what happens in a school district like ann Arbor is

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Speaker 3: it's a series of things. And it really began when

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Speaker 3: the district began to declining because it was the in

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Speaker 1: I think that ann Arbor is an area where people

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Speaker 1: up for it. And these were very involved parents, and

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Speaker 1: suddenly you had liberal Democrat parents who were saying, wait

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Speaker 1: to go back to school.

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Speaker 3: Correct and so, and it's where the University of Michigan is,

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Speaker 3: so it's a very sort of affluent area. And so

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Speaker 3: they refused to reopen. And so parents left for a

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Speaker 1: And then when you say parents left, they like they

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Speaker 3: Correct. They went to other school districts, charter schools, private schools,

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Speaker 3: homeschooled whatever, And so they had declining enrollment. And then

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Speaker 3: And then they the year before they gave thirteen million

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Speaker 3: of these things combined you have declining customers essentially with

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Speaker 3: for all the people who say, well, government's not a business,

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Speaker 3: well it kind of is. And so now there's this situation.

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Speaker 3: And so the point in talking about all of this

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Speaker 1: point there's gonna be something you disagree with. Well, then

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Speaker 1: disagree and talk about it. But I feel like I'm

437
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 1: pointing out, Sarah and Esteban, your generation is unable to

438
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Speaker 1: have a conversation because it's easier to just block it

439
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:07,399
Speaker 1: and walk away.

440
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 4: Well, and I want to go back though, because you

441
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,160
Speaker 4: talk about the radical radicalization aspect of it, but we're

442
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 4: also just not teaching kids the basics. So if you

443
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 4: look at schools in Detroit where the number of students

444
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Speaker 4: that are illiterate, where you're going to have a literate

445
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 4: exact young people, and then you also have an adult

446
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:26,160
Speaker 4: literacy problem. I mean you're just dumbing down the entire population.

447
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 1: That education, security, national security, right, all of these things.

448
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 1: I mean, if you don't have education, you cannot function

449
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,879
Speaker 1: as a society because there are people who do all

450
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,159
Speaker 1: different roles and no matter what your role is. And

451
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,080
Speaker 1: I've heard all the babloney about dirty Jobs, and I

452
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 1: get that that was a very popular show, and maybe

453
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Speaker 1: I'm offended by that as we talk about being offended

454
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Speaker 1: because I come from a dirty job. But I think

455
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,719
Speaker 1: that you can scare people away from careers that are

456
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 1: really good careers by belittling them. And so I want

457
00:23:56,119 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 1: to have that argument because if we do not, if

458
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,199
Speaker 1: we only teach kids to go into art history or

459
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,160
Speaker 1: gender studies. And I think that I'm not exaggerating by

460
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 1: that because I think there's a really popular push right

461
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 1: now to be like, be a philosopher, learn about this,

462
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 1: you know, instead of the trades, instead of what it

463
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 1: takes to actually get out of college and freeze a

464
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 1: family and what that means. I mean, even the Harrison

465
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Speaker 1: Butker conversational, like how dare he say that? But the

466
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 1: reality is I don't think people are talking enough about

467
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 1: what relationships are. And you so you have to hold

468
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Speaker 1: a career, you have to have a job, and you

469
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 1: have to have a job that pays the bills, and

470
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Speaker 1: then you should find joy in companionship and you should

471
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Speaker 1: have another person in your life. And then if you

472
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Speaker 1: want to have a family, you need to think about

473
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Speaker 1: what that is ahead of time. And I think people

474
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 1: don't even want to talk about it because they're like,

475
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 1: don't force me into that box. And I'm like, but

476
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,879
Speaker 1: isn't that a box? Eventually one day you might be

477
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Speaker 1: in and you've never thought about it.

478
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Speaker 4: Well, they assume a conversation is automatically forcing you into something.

479
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Speaker 1: That's and that's what I think we se with Harrison

480
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 1: Bucker is that people immediately were like, well, now every

481
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,120
Speaker 1: woman has to have a baby. No, but I mean,

482
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 1: are you lying to yourself? I tested one of my girls,

483
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 1: and nobody's going to believe this, but I really did.

484
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,640
Speaker 1: We were on the way home from school the other

485
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Speaker 1: day and I was just like, I just want to

486
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Speaker 1: see what they'd say. I was just with my mettle

487
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 1: daughter and I said to her, Hey, I was just curious,

488
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Speaker 1: what do you most look forward to about growing up?

489
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Speaker 1: And she goes, hmmm, probably having my own kids one day,

490
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 1: and I was like, it's totally just her own mind

491
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Speaker 1: of what she's thinking about. And so the idea that

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Speaker 1: he would say you're probably most looking forward to getting

493
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Speaker 1: married and having kids, I think that there's a lot

494
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Speaker 1: of truth to that, because that was what I thought

495
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Speaker 1: about as a kid, was my own kids. You know,

496
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Speaker 1: what would my kids be like? I mean, that's why

497
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 1: we used to have the Cabbage Patch kids that you

498
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,439
Speaker 1: could adopt, you know, and you didn't have to name them.

499
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,679
Speaker 1: And to the point where I had too many, but

500
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Speaker 1: and I would forget their names, and then I would think,

501
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 1: what if I will forget my own kids' names, which

502
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 1: is obviously ridiculous because I just confuse them with each other.

503
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 1: But I've never forgotten any of them. But it's like

504
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 1: my child mind was definitely thinking about what it would

505
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 1: be like to be a parent. And so the idea

506
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Speaker 1: that we can't even discuss that kids think that way,

507
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,120
Speaker 1: that kids have to all be like, I'm so confused.

508
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: I don't I haven't decided my gender yet. How dare

509
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 1: you consider me as potentially being a parent one day?

510
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 1: It's crazy.

511
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Speaker 4: I mean, I think any twenty thirty year old woman

512
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Speaker 4: that is saying they've never thought about it, they don't

513
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 4: continue to think about it, is totally lying to you.

514
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:32,959
Speaker 4: They've been I mean, clearly they've been brainwashed to think

515
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 4: it's a bad thing to even want that. But you

516
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,640
Speaker 4: cannot tell me that you're not thinking about it. You've

517
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 4: just been taught to say it's a bad thing. Now

518
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,679
Speaker 4: suddenly that's anti feminist and that ruins all your big plans.

519
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 4: But you're thinking about it in one way or another.

520
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 4: When you're by yourself, that you are thinking about that,

521
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 4: you just can't tell me you're not.

522
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Speaker 1: I mean, human nature is to want to like spread

523
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 1: your genes, right, you're supposed to want to. It's that you're.

524
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 4: That There are kids in the car now running the seed.

525
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 1: All right, sorry, Sarah, you had a story you wanted

526
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: to bring. We'll move on.

527
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 4: Oh we're moving on to a full new topic.

528
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, why not?

529
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 4: Okay, Well I wanted to talk about all of the drama.

530
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah.

531
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Speaker 4: I was like, all right, we need to live. I

532
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 4: want to talk about Scarlett Johansson. I am not an

533
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 4: AI expert or by any I don't really understand how

534
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 4: it works to be honest, chat GPT, all of those things.

535
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 4: That's part Yes, that's how they want. Again, the education

536
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 4: system really failed me here. But Scarlett Johansson is now

537
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 4: at the center of a controversy because her voice is

538
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 4: apparently being used as the new digital assistant for chat GPT.

539
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 4: She was asked if she would like to Oh.

540
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 1: So, she's I didn't know what it was being used for.

541
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, so it's the New Life. She's like their version

542
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 4: of series for chat gptre. She was listening to it

543
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 4: and it's eerily sim to her own voice. Well, it

544
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 4: turns out the founder of open Ai, who runs chat GPT,

545
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 4: had reached out to Scarlett Johansson and was like, Hey,

546
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 4: we'd really like you to do this. Would you be

547
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 4: the voice of this? And she said no. Well then

548
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,719
Speaker 4: you know, he courted her again, asked her, and just

549
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 4: not that long.

550
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: After, just stole her.

551
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 4: Yes, he stole her voice. Oh gosh, that's so Ursula,

552
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 4: very little Mermaid of her.

553
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 1: So this stole the mermaid's voice, remember hello.

554
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 2: But not in the same way. She didn't steal the

555
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 2: mermaid's voice.

556
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 1: And then she did give it to No, she did, remember,

557
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: she went and she pretended to be her on the

558
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: boat and then she stole Prince Eric. I guess her

559
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: voice is a.

560
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 2: Little I'm going to be totally honest. Never seen the

561
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 2: Little Mermaid?

562
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: What okay, this is the whole other seen. I was

563
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 1: going to say, you I would expect all.

564
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 2: Right, But like, there was there was this there was

565
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 2: this movie called Her, And that's what this is about.

566
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 2: Because there was this movie called Her where Scarlett Johansen

567
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 2: plays an AI basically in a computer and Joaquin Phoenix

568
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 2: falls in love with that computer. And my guess is

569
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Speaker 2: that this guy who runs cht GPT really loves that movie, mate.

570
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 4: I believe he actually came out and said it's his

571
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 4: favorite movie of all time. Don't quote me on that,

572
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 4: but I think that.

573
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: Makes it even creeper. Yes, what is she saying to

574
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: him at home? I mean he can make her say.

575
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 2: Anything, right, that's yeah, that's so.

576
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: I guess that's a question mark.

577
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 3: I guess my question is because I'm sort of shrugging

578
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 3: about this, Like, what's the big deal to me? I

579
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 3: would I would? Okay, wouldn't you be kind of flattered

580
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 3: if your voice was used now?

581
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: Because your your voice is your craft, so it would

582
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 1: be one thing like it would be like someone taking

583
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: your writing and playing it off as their own.

584
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 2: It's people do that.

585
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 4: But are you happy because if they can monetize it?

586
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 4: I mean you think about all of the digital images

587
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 4: you can create. So if you're a photographer, are you

588
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 4: just toast now because someone but.

589
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 3: She didn't do the work. And I'm a little playing

590
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 3: a devil's evocate a little bit here, But she didn't

591
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 3: do the work. It's not like he spent two weeks

592
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 3: recording all of these different things.

593
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 2: Probably, I mean, how do you think they trained the voice?

594
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 2: They probably went through all of our movies. They probably

595
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 2: went through all of our interviews.

596
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 3: And they got paid for.

597
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 2: But the problem is she said no, she said, I

598
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 2: don't want you to do this.

599
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 3: Is the voice? Does it say, like, can people get

600
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 3: it to say creepy things?

601
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 2: Or is it just I'm sure there's a way.

602
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, that part, I don't know. I don't understand the time.

603
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 2: You have seemingly safe AI image generators that are able

604
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 2: to produce images of Taylor Swift doing things that she

605
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 2: sued them over. I mean, well, then.

606
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: Where does this? I think this is the danger, right

607
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: because then suddenly you have Donald Trump saying something that

608
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 1: whoever wants to make him do or say something vice versa.

609
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: It's like we were told when we were looking at

610
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: what the future of political races would be that there

611
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: will be a time when they can take your candidate

612
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: and that AI will follow what that person has done

613
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,959
Speaker 1: during the day, and then they'll get an ad with

614
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 1: their candidate's face saying I went shopping today too, I

615
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: did this today too. I mean, how creepy is that

616
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: the candidate's not really saying that they did it, but

617
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:14,239
Speaker 1: you won't know.

618
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 2: I mean, there is a big hullabaloo about misinformation, but

619
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 2: we're really living in an age where you can seriously

620
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 2: make anybody do anything or say anything, and target that

621
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 2: to specific people who know who you know won't do

622
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 2: any more research about it, and just convince them, you know,

623
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 2: that Joe Biden killed a child and buried them in

624
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 2: the rose garden, right, Like, that's dark. Wow, I was

625
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 2: gonna say, killed a dog, But we politicians.

626
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 4: Already been there, that's been done.

627
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 2: But it's dangerous when you get to the point where

628
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 2: it's indistinguishable, right.

629
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: And I think it be hard to make ai of

630
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: Joe Biden because it's hard to be you know, to

631
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: have that many flubs. But in a reality, I mean

632
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: you could very easily have you know, think about what

633
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: they could have done with Hunter and his daughter Ashley,

634
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: and like she could there could be some secret recording,

635
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: or there could be some secret recording of Baron. You

636
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: know what, what's off limits at a certain point when

637
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: you can just create something, make someone say something. And

638
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: so I think to your point, even if it wouldn't

639
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: be offensive to Scarlett Johansson, I think it's good for

640
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: all of us that she's standing against this, because if

641
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: you let it go. Then how how many people will

642
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: do this and eventually where does it go? And then

643
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: is it just the norm of like Okay, well don't

644
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,719
Speaker 1: be AI and AI impacted individual.

645
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 3: Like no, And I just want to be clear, I'm not.

646
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,959
Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of danger with AI and

647
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 3: where that is all going. So I want to be clear.

648
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to downplay that.

649
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 2: I just and just to just to be very clear,

650
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 2: this episode we didn't actually record with Kyle. That's an

651
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 2: AI voice.

652
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: Kyle's at home. We just decided to go without him.

653
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Speaker 2: Actually, I wish.

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Speaker 4: It's going to actually create an image of themselves. I

655
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Speaker 4: wonder though, is this something that could turn Hollywood off

656
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 4: from Democrats potentially because Democrats always side with big tech.

657
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Speaker 4: But you look now of all of Hollywood, if their

658
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 4: entire career and workforce is at risk because of AI

659
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 4: and technology that they've just let go Bill Kiley, is

660
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 4: this like a whole new frontier of.

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Speaker 1: So not right now? I don't think so, because I

662
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Speaker 1: think they are so adamant that they have to hate

663
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Speaker 1: Trump and that's like their brand is to I mean,

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Speaker 1: look at Bill Maher even when he goes on got

665
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: filled the other night, He's like, at the end of

666
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: the day, I hate Trump. It doesn't mean that I'm

667
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: going to hate everybody who loves Trump. I just feel

668
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Speaker 1: like I have to. And so that to me was

669
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Speaker 1: very telling, because this is a mom where people have

670
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: decided this is about a personality and not about the

671
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Speaker 1: country and not about an election, which I think is

672
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Speaker 1: very pathetic on their side, And so I don't think

673
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Speaker 1: that Hollywood can be turned on that because I think

674
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Speaker 1: it's a weird combination of misinformation and fear or whatever

675
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: it is that has screwed with the syndrome, Yes, exactly,

676
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: but also this weird jealousy of like, how did this

677
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 1: guy go from being a what reality TV star and

678
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Speaker 1: billionaire to being the president of the United States. And

679
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Speaker 1: even though if you look back through time, that was

680
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 1: always his trajectory. He had talked about being president multiple years,

681
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: multiple cycles, since he was probably our age. I'm pointing

682
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Speaker 1: to the old side of the table, but he had

683
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Speaker 1: always really considered it. They just didn't take him seriously,

684
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 1: and then once he got it, it was like that,

685
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: we can't handle this. But to your point, I think

686
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: this is not the cycle, but I think eventually there's

687
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: going to be a turn. If Trump is not in

688
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: the picture, they're going to go there's something else wrong here,

689
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 1: Like they're blinded by their hatred for him, which is

690
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 1: so sad.

691
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Speaker 4: But that's even though their livelihood potentially could be fully

692
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Speaker 4: at risk.

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00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,720
Speaker 1: Now well, and look at how much it has really

694
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Speaker 1: ruined their art. Because oh, I always appreciated movies because

695
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: I really didn't know anything about the actors or actresses

696
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: because I just knew who their their parts were. And

697
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: now there are like they played their role so well

698
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: that I got like sucked into it. Now there are

699
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: people that have said such nasty things. I'm like, I

700
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Speaker 1: don't want to see you on a movie.

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Speaker 4: They just have fully ai movies. You don't even have

702
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Speaker 4: to know they don't have.

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Speaker 1: That's the fear of the Scarlet Johansons of the world though,

704
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: because then all of a sudden, if you don't have

705
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Speaker 1: real people.

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Speaker 4: They can't say anything dumb for a certain faction to

707
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 4: get mad at. Though no, right, they don't exist, like,

708
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 4: all right, so you have a story. We have to

709
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Speaker 4: get your story in before we take too much of that.

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Speaker 2: Final story of this episode is one that I was

711
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:04,439
Speaker 2: shocked by, and I'm very excited by Have you ever

712
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 2: heard of the Greater Idaho Movement? Now there are thirteen

713
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Speaker 2: counties in eastern Oregon that have voted, I think, to

714
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Speaker 2: seceed to Idaho. And I just I read that and

715
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Speaker 2: I thought why, And it's because Oregon's full of drugs mainly,

716
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Speaker 2: but I think.

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Speaker 1: That I thought it was because of the potatoes. Well,

718
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: everyone loves potatoes. My kids are obsessed with fries, all right.

719
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Speaker 2: Sorry, No, I mean, I don't really understand why they

720
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Speaker 2: would do this rather than try to improve organ but

721
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Speaker 2: I think that it's really interesting that a big I

722
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Speaker 2: mean you look at the map, A big portion of

723
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Speaker 2: Idaho wants to get out. What are you of Oregon?

724
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Speaker 4: Sorry, Oregon's going to Idaho.

725
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Speaker 2: Oregon's going to Idaho.

726
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Speaker 1: But it's because the the I mean, think about it.

727
00:36:56,320 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: It's like Michigan. Most of Michigan is conservative, but you

728
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,280
Speaker 1: have a lot of power in the votes in Detroit.

729
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Speaker 1: So does the whole state want to be Detroit or

730
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: does the whole state want to be indiana Ish.

731
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Speaker 2: That's why the up should be its own state.

732
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Speaker 1: We're not getting ready to stop us, I know, but.

733
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Speaker 2: No, I'm saying we lost them. I think they already

734
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 2: have that idea, I know. But I think one of

735
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Speaker 2: the things that this story.

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Speaker 1: Will they join their own state?

737
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Speaker 2: They would, yeah, they'd make their own state, or they

738
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Speaker 2: join Canada. That's their only two options. And I don't

739
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Speaker 2: think they really.

740
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, so then we could be like North

741
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Speaker 1: Michigan and South Michigan.

742
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Speaker 2: We already have that.

743
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Speaker 1: No, but I'm not what would your state be called?

744
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 2: Oh, their state probably would be the Upper Peninsula. I

745
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 2: feel like we have all the creative juices down here

746
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Speaker 2: under the bridge. They have all the trees and whatnot.

747
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 1: No, I think they have the more. They're more creative

748
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Speaker 1: than us.

749
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Speaker 2: Really, but don't you think we can an improvement?

750
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Speaker 1: But but there's the fishing. I mean they're just like

751
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: is active?

752
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 2: Then is fishing really creative? Though?

753
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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 2: Have you fished? You fish? Right?

755
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Speaker 4: Oh, fishing, don't you work your creative mind?

756
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 2: Though?

757
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Speaker 1: When you are in.

758
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Speaker 2: Solitude, that's true.

759
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Speaker 4: So you go out fishing, you go out in nature.

760
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Speaker 4: I feel like that's where, like so many of the

761
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Speaker 4: great writers and artists I.

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Speaker 1: Loved, the people that we met up in the Upper

763
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:26,879
Speaker 1: Peninsula were some of the most passionate, and I think

764
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Speaker 1: that's because they are very connected to the area that

765
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Speaker 1: they live in in a much more in a much

766
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Speaker 1: deeper way than we are. I think that they're very

767
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Speaker 1: they're very passionate about their careers. They're very passionate. And

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that people in the Lower Peninsula are not,

769
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: but it's just it. You have a harsh winter, it's

770
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Speaker 1: a different kind of lifestyle, and there's not as much

771
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Speaker 1: population center. There's not as big a population centers in

772
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Speaker 1: the UP or the yeah, in the UP. But I think,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I think it would be devastating for

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Speaker 1: us to lose the UP.

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Speaker 2: I think that we we should, we should really discuss

776
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Speaker 2: this further because think about the greater scheme of things,

777
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna come out full. I think the

778
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Speaker 2: UP should be its own state now. I think I

779
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Speaker 2: think they should. You know what, I'm tired of having

780
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Speaker 2: to do this with my hands. When I'm showing people

781
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 2: all of Michigan, I just want I just want the mitten.

782
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 1: You're the only state that can even use that, so

783
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: you just.

784
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly find out where you were born. I think

785
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 2: that at the end of the day, what I was

786
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 2: trying to get at with the Idaho story.

787
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Speaker 1: He's like to bring it back.

788
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Speaker 2: Is that and this connects to the education system. I

789
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 2: have no clue where Idaho is on a map. I

790
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 2: thought Idaho was like south of Illinois.

791
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:50,240
Speaker 4: I don't Yes, this does go back to the education system.

792
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,240
Speaker 4: We see what you lost in the COVID years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next

794
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Speaker 1: on a Tutor Dixon podcast. I find it fascinating because,

795
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Speaker 1: like I said, you have Portland that is such a

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Speaker 1: big part of the voting base there, and if you

797
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: look at that Portland again, put that wacko mayor back

798
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Speaker 1: into office. And so I think that's the frustration with

799
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: communities like that, and I see that here and I

800
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: think that's why they have become louder activists. But sometimes

801
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: those loud activists also can turn the other side off,

802
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,720
Speaker 1: so you have a bigger clash because once you've driven

803
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: people to one side and then you drive the other

804
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: people to the other side, you end up with this situation,

805
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 1: which is unique. But how many other places are going

806
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: to have this happen? If you have this many counties

807
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 1: that are like, Okay, we're done with the liberal politics,

808
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: We're done with the massive crime, and here Idaho has

809
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 1: a much better family situation. We want to seceed and

810
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Speaker 1: go to Idaho. I mean, it is unheard of, and

811
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Speaker 1: yet I don't actually have a problem with them wanting

812
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: to do that, because what do you do when no

813
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: one will address homelessness. When issues like drug use, crime

814
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 1: and homelessness bring in more money and create more government

815
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: and there's reward for having them there, you end up

816
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 1: struggling even more to fight that government because it becomes

817
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 1: massive based on the problems that are there, and those

818
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 1: problems help them grow even more and create more power

819
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:25,280
Speaker 1: against the people.

820
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Speaker 4: Is Oregon like fighting to keep them? That's the other

821
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 4: part of this, because I would think, and this is

822
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Speaker 4: maybe the wonky side of this, that's a lot of

823
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Speaker 4: money and tax space that's going to go to your

824
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 4: neighboring state.

825
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Speaker 2: The counties that have voted are mostly agricultural counties, so

826
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Speaker 2: there's farm it's kind of very I don't want to

827
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 2: say it's empty, it's but.

828
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Speaker 4: They could be the producers of your state.

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Speaker 2: Yea, it's less populated the governor as far as I know,

830
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Speaker 2: and I did like ten minutes of research on this,

831
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Speaker 2: A full time public school education, I think that the

832
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:07,919
Speaker 2: governor said basically, they are angry, and I think that's

833
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Speaker 2: what that movement is about. And I think that's pretty

834
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 2: close to her actual quote. That's what she said. So

835
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Speaker 2: I don't think they're really trying that hard I to

836
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Speaker 2: keep them there.

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Speaker 1: No, welland they probably don't think it's a serious thing.

838
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Speaker 1: But I also think this goes to how we treat

839
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Speaker 1: agriculture in this country, whereas people don't understand and we

840
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: talked about education security earlier, and food security is a

841
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: real concern that we don't talk about enough, and we

842
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 1: don't consider the fact that I mean, even when we

843
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 1: see that our local chicken farmer had to get rid

844
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 1: of a million chickens because of bird flu, there's no

845
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: discussion as to how that will impact prices. This is

846
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 1: going to actually do. What will the government come into

847
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: try to help to get these agricultural sites back on track?

848
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 1: And how are we helping farmers? You know, we've seen

849
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: that African American farmers have not received the kind of

850
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: help that white farmers have. But then they flip flopped

851
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: that and instead of making this is what I love

852
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 1: about DEI, instead of making it equal, then they took

853
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: away from one and gave to the other, whereas before

854
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: it was the other direction. So why can't we just

855
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: look at farming without color and say we need to

856
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: make sure that our farmers are secure, because there is

857
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 1: nothing scarier than meaning the situation China is in, which

858
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: is why they want world domination, because the fact is

859
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: they can't feed their people. And if we continue to

860
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Speaker 1: take our farmland and put solar panels on it instead

861
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: of farm we will have a food security issue and

862
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:36,919
Speaker 1: that is going to be catastrophic. I agree. All right,

863
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Speaker 1: you're very quiet right now, Kyle.

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Speaker 3: I'm just in awe.

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Speaker 4: That's brilliant you all right.

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Speaker 1: On that note, suck up. That was not a sec

867
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Speaker 1: up backhand and not even a compliment. All right. If

868
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 1: you had seen his space, you would have known. I mean,

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Speaker 1: do you not consider food security indusue in this country?

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Speaker 3: Yes? And I think also the quote that Esteban gave

871
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Speaker 3: it indicates just a contempt for not just agriculture, but

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Speaker 3: for you know, rural Americans and people who want to

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Speaker 3: live in a rural setting. And there's just and we

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Speaker 3: see there's places like that in Michigan and Illinois and

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Speaker 3: you know, every state.

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Speaker 4: Basically it's like when they call it flyover country and

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Speaker 4: that's all rest to them. In reality, it's much more

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Speaker 4: than that.

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Speaker 1: Well, and we are so spoiled as a culture that

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00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: we just go to the grocery store and get our

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00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 1: food and we've never considered where it comes from or

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00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: whether or not it's going to be there. And so

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Speaker 1: much of our food is processed, and we're just like, oh,

884
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Speaker 1: we're just going to get a bag of chips and

885
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: have you know, hot dogs for dinner, And we don't

886
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 1: think about what happens when there's no grain. And you know,

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Speaker 1: all we heard about when Ukraine was invaded was it's

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Speaker 1: the bread bowl of Europe. We're never going to have

889
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 1: any more grain. This is going to be a huge problem.

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Speaker 1: But I it's not a conversation in the United States,

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00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 1: you know, as long as we continue to push our

892
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Speaker 1: farmers off their land and our farmers are struggling and

893
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Speaker 1: so we have we have very few conversations about that

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Speaker 1: because I think that people are arrogant enough to be like,

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Speaker 1: there's not you know, farming is such a small population, okay,

896
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Speaker 1: but that's who's serving all of you. And that was like,

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Speaker 1: that was my argument in the foundry world. We are

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Speaker 1: making the parts that create tractors, that create John Deere,

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Speaker 1: that create caterpillar that build the country and farm the country.

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Speaker 1: And when you shut down all of those all of

901
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Speaker 1: those entities, when you start at the beginning of those

902
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 1: suppliers and you start to shut that down and say, Okay,

903
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Speaker 1: that's dirty and ugly and we don't want it, and

904
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Speaker 1: we don't want to take all this land and cause

905
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 1: climate change because of farming. We'd rather put these solar

906
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: panels on it. Suddenly you are in real danger of

907
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: not being able to support your country. And if you

908
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: can't support your country, you are in dire straits because

909
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: then you're having to go to other countries and you

910
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: are no longer the most powerful. That is why China

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Speaker 1: is where it is today, because they cannot support their

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Speaker 1: own country. And so as you watch, China has moved

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Speaker 1: into South America. We have stepped away, we have stepped

914
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Speaker 1: away from Central America. We're like, oh, it's too dangerous,

915
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Speaker 1: it's filled with crime. Well, guess what once China takes over,

916
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Speaker 1: eventually they will have all of that land, they will

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Speaker 1: have power, and then they will bring their communist dictatorship

918
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Speaker 1: ways to those countries, and if you steal a loaf

919
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: of bread, you'll get your hand chopped off, or you'll

920
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: be hung in the streets, and there's nothing anybody can

921
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 1: do about it because we stepped away and we didn't

922
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Speaker 1: continue to hold our position as the world's superpower. And

923
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Speaker 1: all of these people that say America First is bad

924
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: and America first is good, I don't think there's a

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00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: full understanding of what America first is. And that is

926
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Speaker 1: not just America only, that is not just whatever is

927
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: within our borders. America has to be the strongest, and

928
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,080
Speaker 1: so I don't know if there's some confusion over what

929
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: America First means, and I do believe that there is

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Speaker 1: on both sides. But I think it's incredibly important that

931
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Speaker 1: we continued to have this conversation about what America needs

932
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 1: to be on the world stage, how America needs to

933
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Speaker 1: step in some of these places that China is going

934
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Speaker 1: into Right now, we're all talking about China coming into Michigan,

935
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: China coming into the United States. What about where China

936
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 1: is that we're not looking, we're not watching where they

937
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: are walking, where they're stepping in and they're taking over

938
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Speaker 1: businesses and they're taking over land, and it's very dangerous

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Speaker 1: for us.

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Speaker 3: I thought Kamala went to Central America to figure things out.

941
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Speaker 3: She was gonna take care of that.

942
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Speaker 1: Yeah, she's the bizarre of whatever the border problem that

943
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Speaker 1: was what she did here. She was laughing about it.

944
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Speaker 3: She's taking care of it. It's good.

945
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,280
Speaker 4: Root causes, that's right, root causes.

946
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Speaker 1: All right, Well, I think that's enough for today, but

947
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Speaker 1: we will be back. Well, you guys, like I said,

948
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Speaker 1: email us, tell us if you're enjoying this. We love

949
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Speaker 1: sharing the story of the day with you. I think

950
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: we have great perspectives because we have three different generations here,

951
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: and I love that about this group because it gives

952
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: us kind of an understanding of where everybody is. You know,

953
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: from the public school system, how do you think about things?

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Speaker 1: I think we all went to public school, didn't we.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm the only one that doesn't know where

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Speaker 2: Idaho is.

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Speaker 1: No, Idaho is a very unique shape, and I would

958
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 1: hope that if you saw a map, you would be

959
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: able to point it out. Most states are all right, Well,

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Speaker 1: we will have a map on the wall next time.

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Speaker 1: I will tell you that. The next thing on geography

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Speaker 1: class for my middle daughter is the United States, so

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Speaker 1: we will have to study with her because her teacher

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Speaker 1: is very hard. Anyway, for everyone listening, thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for listening to the Tutor Dixon podcast for this

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