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Speaker 1: Damn right. Welcome to another edition of the Around the
Speaker 1: NFL Podcast, presented by Sirius XM. My name is Dan Hansis,
Speaker 1: and I'm joined in a room bell with heroes Mark Sessler,
Speaker 1: Chris Westling and Greg Roseval. What is up? Boys? Hey? Dan,
Speaker 1: We're all together and it feels damn good. But not
Speaker 1: everything feels good. The Shield Dynasty is over. Long Live
Speaker 1: the Shield. The Company co ed softball team went down
Speaker 1: in the finals to Barney's nooner'st to ten dug ourselves
Speaker 1: a whole deep hole, felon nothing and crawled their way back,
Speaker 1: scored ten runs in the last what was it two innings?
Speaker 1: Was two innings? I think rally came up painfully short.
Speaker 1: Our great player on deck as the tying run, when
Speaker 1: our one of our top girls got caught off first base,
Speaker 1: gotten run down, tagged out. It's like Babe Ruth when
Speaker 1: he got thrown out trying to steal second in the
Speaker 1: World Series. All just like all those years ago. Wait,
Speaker 1: like rounding first or something, trying to go to second,
Speaker 1: trying to make something happen. And uh, because we are listeners,
Speaker 1: have been interested in the Shield for three seasons. Now
Speaker 1: this feels like the right time for a press conference.
Speaker 1: Any thoughts about the season and we have a lot
Speaker 1: to get to today and the right of the podcast,
Speaker 1: But the most important thing is what happened with the
Speaker 1: Shield and Wednesday? Still take some questions? Quick press conference?
Speaker 1: All right right here? All right there? Can we start
Speaker 1: with your decision at picture skip. A smattering of blogs,
Speaker 1: vlogs and talk radio outlets are pinning you for starting
Speaker 1: Brooke from a original content on the Mound over a
Speaker 1: surging Matt ten. Would you do it again? I do
Speaker 1: it again? Yes? I really thought Brooke, although she had
Speaker 1: missed the bulk of the season, Um, she had carried
Speaker 1: us in a lot of ways to our first two
Speaker 1: titles on the Bump. And it was not an easy decision,
Speaker 1: And I worked with my consigliari West Um trying to
Speaker 1: come up with the right move. And maybe it was
Speaker 1: the right move. Maybe if Maddie's on the mound, um
Speaker 1: the same outcome, we lose. But I felt good going
Speaker 1: with what I thought was our best team. Uh, West,
Speaker 1: you haven't any dain to that we had reached a
Speaker 1: decision that we would have been fined with either of
Speaker 1: those people pitching. That pitching was not our issue. We
Speaker 1: have other issues, but pitching was not Either one of
Speaker 1: those persons would have done the job just far. Next,
Speaker 1: we gotta score more than ten runs, and I was
Speaker 1: gonna right there. But I had a big softball for you.
Speaker 1: But that answer begs the question, well, what are what
Speaker 1: are the issues? Our leadoff hit her started the game
Speaker 1: over three, including striking out to start the game. Now, West,
Speaker 1: you you're a warrior, and I want people to know that, Chris,
Speaker 1: that just shows you what time a man he is
Speaker 1: that he's gonna say that. Yes, slow start, you finished strong.
Speaker 1: You played a big part in the seventh inning rally,
Speaker 1: played very good defense. It was you were not the
Speaker 1: reason we lost. But we didn't play our cleanest game.
Speaker 1: We did not play a great defensive game. We didn't
Speaker 1: pitch our best game. But it wasn't just that we
Speaker 1: left runs on the field. We let run score that
Speaker 1: shouldn't have scored. We just didn't play our a game.
Speaker 1: We were the best team in the league. We just
Speaker 1: weren't the best team on Wednesday night. And that's sports
Speaker 1: anything else. It was execution. We just failed to execute.
Speaker 1: Got to ask this. I ken I spoke with a
Speaker 1: source downstairs who told me there was an aura of
Speaker 1: this sort of might be our last go around after
Speaker 1: the loss. You skip of toyed with retirement for years verbally,
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's sort of a cat and
Speaker 1: string operation with the press. Where are you Are you
Speaker 1: coming back next season? Um, I'm not ready to answer
Speaker 1: that right now. It's a very emotional time. It's it
Speaker 1: was one of the toughest losses of my career. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: I think we were all very confident. Some people I
Speaker 1: know in the media thought was that we were overconfident,
Speaker 1: which I don't think was that was not That was
Speaker 1: not the issue at all. Over confidence was not an issue.
Speaker 1: Were you were more because usually you always talked down
Speaker 1: your expectations and then the last week you guys, you
Speaker 1: you were talking them up. That I just wasn't an issue.
Speaker 1: I don't think it was one. More for coach quick
Speaker 1: follow up we quit. I mean, any thoughts, let's how
Speaker 1: you you do come back next year? But with a
Speaker 1: new wave of NFL media employees on the team, Let's
Speaker 1: say William mc ginnis, La Danian, Tomlinson and maybe Dion
Speaker 1: Sanders to systematically drop an a bomb on these Hammond
Speaker 1: Eggers that are populated the rest cut you off right there.
Speaker 1: That's a clown question, bro, It's a clown question. I
Speaker 1: love my team, I support my team. This is a
Speaker 1: great team that has heart for days and we didn't
Speaker 1: get it done. But it's this is not a tear down.
Speaker 1: This is not the end of the shield. Um, maybe
Speaker 1: the end of skip. And I don't know about the
Speaker 1: third base West. I know you said some things after
Speaker 1: the game, was about a potential retirement. Any thoughts, uh
Speaker 1: that you have on that. Well, my skills have it
Speaker 1: wrote it and um, physically weaker. It's just not I'm
Speaker 1: just not as good as I was a few years ago,
Speaker 1: and it doesn't feel good to be one of the
Speaker 1: reasons we lost. That's a new feeling for me in softball.
Speaker 1: So it's sort of a wake up call and it
Speaker 1: gives me a greater appreciations for say Brett Farve or
Speaker 1: Brend Roethlisberger or Gronk where you say after the season,
Speaker 1: I'm probably hanging them up and then maybe you get
Speaker 1: a few months to think about it. But I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna leave my spikes on the back of
Speaker 1: the dugout. Maybe these are maybe you guys are the
Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen Patriots though you started the you know,
Speaker 1: press release saying the dynasty is over. But who knows.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just just winning next year and it's just
Speaker 1: one little championship loss. That's part of the greater story.
Speaker 1: The shield is at a crossroads. I think that is
Speaker 1: a good way to put it all right, coming up
Speaker 1: on today's show and pressor um, oh, this is a
Speaker 1: good thing. Rosenthal remembers a return to the Ravens nest, Like,
Speaker 1: what is that plan this segment? What is this? Coming
Speaker 1: up later today, Greg flew across the country and the
Speaker 1: NFL's dime thanks Rog and um watched camp and I
Speaker 1: we haven't I don't know about you guys. I haven't
Speaker 1: cost a lot of money. By the way, it costs
Speaker 1: a lot of money. Um, I haven't talked to you
Speaker 1: at all about your trips, so class on the way
Speaker 1: back very expensive. That was a nice drop, and I'm
Speaker 1: happy with the title he came up with. But it
Speaker 1: just makes me really miss Greggy does Dallas. A lot
Speaker 1: of people speculated we had mentioned during our our tour
Speaker 1: of conference rooms across NFL media here when the studio
Speaker 1: is being refurbished, whether the Debbie does Dallas or Greggy
Speaker 1: does Dallas segment was what god us almost fired. No,
Speaker 1: now we not at all. A semi started talking to
Speaker 1: about that, but we were never threatened our job. So anyway,
Speaker 1: Greg was in Baltimore, his boys, the Ravens. Um I
Speaker 1: got to see his boy, Lamar. Maybe we'll talk a
Speaker 1: little bit about your making the lead piece a Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1: A lot to get to over there, um As we
Speaker 1: jumped back into the Ravens nest. But before that, what
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Speaker 1: We're in Tampa Bay for inside training camp. You heard
Speaker 1: that saying when in Rome, do as the Romans do.
Speaker 1: How about in Tampa. In Tampa, when you're in Tampa,
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Speaker 1: he's got a great life. But sometimes I it amazes
Speaker 1: me when I just I watched him in action and
Speaker 1: the things that he says. We should get him on
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Speaker 1: you look at his Twitter feed, this clip took place
Speaker 1: the entire time he unfurled that speech wearing a red
Speaker 1: you know, Bruce arians cat that that's what he was
Speaker 1: referring to. But through the jaws of a gigantic like
Speaker 1: dinosaur mouth, the Tampa Bay fish um skull and bones.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was it was a check it out.
Speaker 1: It was the whole thing, all right. Let's get into
Speaker 1: the news starting right here. In Los Angeles, the Rams
Speaker 1: did some business signing coach Sean McVeigh to a five
Speaker 1: year extension UH and also extending general manager Less Snead.
Speaker 1: McVeigh is thirty three years old now under contract through three.
Speaker 1: It wasn't a situation where they had to get a
Speaker 1: deal done right now, but they know what they have
Speaker 1: in McVeigh. Um Greg who when he got hired was
Speaker 1: I would to call him an unknown, but he was
Speaker 1: obviously untested and it it was a bit of a
Speaker 1: leap of faith and it turned out to go gangbusters.
Speaker 1: To use a check is um he's twenty four and eight.
Speaker 1: That the thing of the disappointment coming off the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl loss is overlooking, like how fast and quickly they
Speaker 1: established themselves as really the most consistent team right now
Speaker 1: in the NFC. And the reason why I like not
Speaker 1: that they need, you know, any kudos for signing McVeigh.
Speaker 1: It's obviously safe, but he seems so good at all
Speaker 1: the other things. He gets so much credit for scheming,
Speaker 1: but he seems so good at all the other things
Speaker 1: that you know, a head coach is required to do,
Speaker 1: which is managing his staff, managing the players, man organization,
Speaker 1: managing the day to day things that come with being
Speaker 1: a coach. They I think it did need to happen now,
Speaker 1: But because Mike Silver reported that McVeigh was believed to
Speaker 1: be the lowest paid coach in the league after the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and was less getting less money than Matt
Speaker 1: Laflour and Zach Taylor. So there was it. Basically, they
Speaker 1: came to him right after that game and said we're
Speaker 1: going to get something done and makes complete sense. Very
Speaker 1: smart and they and they say West And in baseball
Speaker 1: they say it's vital to be very strong up the
Speaker 1: middle catcher, which a shortstop center field. Same thing in
Speaker 1: football with you have to be strong ownership, the general manager,
Speaker 1: the coach, the quarterback. And that's why the Rams are
Speaker 1: where they are. For the past three years, they went
Speaker 1: from being a laughing stock organization to sort of the
Speaker 1: new paradigm for success in the NFL. And the dozen
Speaker 1: years before McVeigh they won thirty one point five percent
Speaker 1: of their games. Since they hired him, they've won seventy
Speaker 1: of their games. Doesn't get much better than that. Let's
Speaker 1: need a you know, a nice decision. I guess by
Speaker 1: ownership who you know. It was not a popular ownership
Speaker 1: group and one of the least successful ownership groups in
Speaker 1: the NFL, and until mc they came on a good decision,
Speaker 1: uh to keep less Sneed in pair him with McVeigh
Speaker 1: because I think it's clearly one A, one B that
Speaker 1: less Need is fulfilling mcveigh's vision. But they really worked
Speaker 1: well together. Sneed was on the ropes too before McVeigh
Speaker 1: was kind of like his Hail Mary in a way,
Speaker 1: and it could not have worked out. He'd be like
Speaker 1: a cat on his fourth life right now, right, eight
Speaker 1: and a half maybe, I mean, he wasn't that far
Speaker 1: first first several years, right, but he also you're saying
Speaker 1: he died eight times. I don't know if he also
Speaker 1: took over he also took over what was literally the
Speaker 1: worst three year run in NFL history before Jeff Fisher
Speaker 1: got there. So I was like, yeah, he was doing
Speaker 1: okay before. Okay, I'm just saying he's at about live
Speaker 1: four and a half, five lives. Would you mind the
Speaker 1: difference goes six? No, it's too many, I mean, and
Speaker 1: I don't even believe that that's true of cats to
Speaker 1: begin with. I think that was a bunch of malarkey. Well,
Speaker 1: you had like nine cats in your backyard at one point.
Speaker 1: They're all gone. Did you multiply them by nine? No,
Speaker 1: but I don't know. They were taken out of my
Speaker 1: household thankfully. Alright, so the Rams do business. You know
Speaker 1: who wants to do business? Michael Thomas, the Star Saints
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Uh. He wants a new deal. Um. He
Speaker 1: wants to get paid like what he is, which is
Speaker 1: a superstar. He's in the superstar club, which means a
Speaker 1: lot to him. But he's a two thousand and sixteen
Speaker 1: second round pick, which means he doesn't make a lot
Speaker 1: of money. He makes one point one million. Uh, as
Speaker 1: he enters the he's set to make one point eight
Speaker 1: one point one for eight million. He's enters the final
Speaker 1: year of his rookie contract. Uh. He wants to get
Speaker 1: paid like a star, and that's why he's holding out.
Speaker 1: Mike Garret, Folo and Ian Report. Rapp Report reported that
Speaker 1: Thomas did not report to training camp with teammates. He's
Speaker 1: seeking a new deal and West he's staying away until
Speaker 1: he gets one. Here we go again. He reportedly wants
Speaker 1: at least twenty million a year, which would make him
Speaker 1: the highest paid wide receiver in the NFL, and for
Speaker 1: stretches of last season, he was the best receiver in
Speaker 1: the NFL. I thought Sean Payton had an interesting point
Speaker 1: when he basically said, because of the collecting a bargaining
Speaker 1: agreement they signed in two thousand eleven that got rid
Speaker 1: of the rookie wage scale, we don't see rookie holdouts. Instead,
Speaker 1: we see those holdouts happen at the end of the
Speaker 1: rookie deals. And because the CBA's ending after this season, Uh,
Speaker 1: it makes negotiations a little trickier, uh, in terms of
Speaker 1: how you can push money out into the future and
Speaker 1: what the next CBA is gonna look like. Like players
Speaker 1: that are signing five six year deals right now are
Speaker 1: taking a big risk that by the end of that
Speaker 1: they're really gonna end up looking underpaid. I think it's
Speaker 1: a perfect time to have a hole that this guy,
Speaker 1: I mean, Michael Thomas might be the most in shape
Speaker 1: player in the NFL. Like, if I'm the Saints, do
Speaker 1: you really care that he misses three weeks of training camp.
Speaker 1: I don't think it'll matter. It sounds like they're not
Speaker 1: that far apart in that, I mean they I don't
Speaker 1: see the lingering beyond this this summertime period. But you
Speaker 1: do have to you have to Julio Jones still sitting
Speaker 1: out there. Well, I feel like we're into year eight
Speaker 1: of talking about him getting a contract extension at some point,
Speaker 1: and you've got tyreek Hill potentially too, So there's gonna
Speaker 1: be you have to see where those numbers come in
Speaker 1: when they do. Julio Jones wants a deal and Mark
Speaker 1: Cooper a j Green Beckham by the way, your boy
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham. Mark currently the highest paid receiver. He makes
Speaker 1: eighteen mill a season, and Thomas wants more. By the way,
Speaker 1: we've been tracking this Zekiel Elliott hold out situation, and
Speaker 1: you know, we have a lot of reporters here at
Speaker 1: NFL Network and this is money time for the network.
Speaker 1: They like to this is where they flex and they
Speaker 1: show we have feet on the ground everywhere and we're
Speaker 1: covering every breath and every movement in training camp. Yesterday
Speaker 1: was a great example where Jane Slater goes viral in
Speaker 1: the news industry by reporting that Zeke was not on
Speaker 1: the team on the plane to ox and Hard for
Speaker 1: training camp, and sure enough, he did not attend his
Speaker 1: physical or the team's conditioning run Friday at Cowboys training camp,
Speaker 1: which opens. He is indeed holding out there was talk
Speaker 1: Mark that if talks between the Cowboys and Zeke, we're
Speaker 1: moving in a positive direction. Um, even if a deal
Speaker 1: didn't get done, he was going to potentially show up.
Speaker 1: I don't know if this means that things are not
Speaker 1: going well, but there's no deal in place and Zeke
Speaker 1: is staying away from now. These are one of these
Speaker 1: stories I get. I get that we all eyes on
Speaker 1: this and it's the it's the perfect storm of the
Speaker 1: Cowboys and Ezekiel Elliott, and it's we're looking for all
Speaker 1: this to magnify it. But wake me up in a month,
Speaker 1: because I feel like the only holdout that truly concerns
Speaker 1: me if I'm a fan right now, would be Melvin Gordon.
Speaker 1: The rest of them, I just am I wrong? Should
Speaker 1: I be feeling? I was losing sleep at night over
Speaker 1: the idea that the Cowboys are gonna let Zeke Elliott
Speaker 1: go weeks into the regular season unsigned or hold feeling
Speaker 1: is everyone gets signed by that first week of the season.
Speaker 1: It's gonna get up. That's how I would Chargers fans
Speaker 1: could be. I'd be really surprised if they sign Ezekie Elliot.
Speaker 1: I think he's just gonna have to cave because I
Speaker 1: think Dak Prescott gets paid for but I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna hold out game. That's what I'm saying that I
Speaker 1: don't know, That's what I'm saying. I don't know if
Speaker 1: they can figure out some other way to get him
Speaker 1: into camp or if he's just happy to skip a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks of camp, which isn't surprising. I'd be like,
Speaker 1: just like a little bit concerned with Zeke because he's
Speaker 1: shown up to camp out of you know, relatively out
Speaker 1: of shape multiple times, and he's been very durable. But
Speaker 1: if he does show up out of shape and he
Speaker 1: steps on the field week one with the hamstring monster
Speaker 1: comes get him, I'd be a little nervous. As a
Speaker 1: Dallas fan. And Melvin Gordon I have to say, like,
Speaker 1: I don't know whose agent is or what what's going
Speaker 1: on behind the scenes, but I I kind of worry
Speaker 1: for this guy a little bit because he seems to
Speaker 1: be going to and there's another report out there that
Speaker 1: he's willing to hold out into the season. A Chargers
Speaker 1: team that has pieces there that you could easily see
Speaker 1: them getting out to a good start in the running
Speaker 1: game not being a problem for them, and then he's
Speaker 1: kind of left in a add why he seems to
Speaker 1: be vulnerable right now? I agree. I don't know if
Speaker 1: he knows, and if I was, you know, Trent Williams
Speaker 1: is the other one, because you know he's a left
Speaker 1: tackle and Eric Flowers right now is your left tackle.
Speaker 1: I know. And no one expects the Redskins to be
Speaker 1: any good. But when you're when you're replacing the best
Speaker 1: player on your team with Eric Flowers, that feels like
Speaker 1: when you have the rare situation where you have a
Speaker 1: friend who was in a long term relationship with someone
Speaker 1: they broke up, but they're still because they're at the
Speaker 1: least they're living together after they've broken up. The Redskins
Speaker 1: and Trent Williams, that's how I see that. Do you
Speaker 1: think is made out of soley hamstrings or is it
Speaker 1: like a beating heart with hamstrings around it or what?
Speaker 1: That sounds pretty scary. I think it's more like a
Speaker 1: gnome that pops out of the dairy and it just
Speaker 1: like slaps you in the hamstring and then like goes
Speaker 1: back undergrounds like like a whack a mole. Bad news
Speaker 1: for the New York Giants, of course, they are looking
Speaker 1: to move on from the O B j Era and Sterling.
Speaker 1: Shepherd is a big part of that. Uh. He just
Speaker 1: got a four year, forty one million dollar contract extension
Speaker 1: in April, but he will be shut down for the
Speaker 1: time being after being diagnosed with a thumb fracture. It
Speaker 1: happened on Thursday at practice. Will be evaluated on a
Speaker 1: week to week basis. UH. We talked about Julian Edelman
Speaker 1: up in New England also dealing with what I believe
Speaker 1: is a fracture um UM, but that happened obviously before this.
Speaker 1: They think they're okay with the Patriots with the idea
Speaker 1: that he'll be back ready for Week one. We'll see
Speaker 1: with Shepherd based on the timing of this and UM.
Speaker 1: Mike Garrafolo reported that this this has the potential to
Speaker 1: go right up against the start of the season, so
Speaker 1: he could miss Week one against the Cowboys six weeks
Speaker 1: from Sunday, and the news didn't get any better. On
Speaker 1: the same day that Shepherd got hurt. Corey Coleman, the
Speaker 1: former Brown's first round pick, trying to get his career
Speaker 1: on track and in line for a big role with
Speaker 1: the Giants, he tore his a c L You know,
Speaker 1: try to speak to the football gods. Last week they
Speaker 1: didn't listen um and that was largely Jets spaced, so
Speaker 1: I think they've listened so far. Knock on wood, but
Speaker 1: I wanted everyone to stay healthy. It's not working out
Speaker 1: that way. Uh. Coleman towards a c L and he
Speaker 1: will obviously be out for the season. That usually involves
Speaker 1: reconstructive knee surgery. Bad break for Coleman and he had
Speaker 1: they were saying he had a chance to be the
Speaker 1: number three receiver. I believe he was actually penciled into
Speaker 1: that role. Cody Latimer played pretty well at the end
Speaker 1: of the year, so I don't see a big drop
Speaker 1: off there now both of the probably one of those
Speaker 1: guys was gonna get cut. One of them would be
Speaker 1: a number three receiver. I don't think they're that bad
Speaker 1: at receiver with Tate Shepard and Ingram if those guys
Speaker 1: are healthy, and Barkley essentially as a fourth receiver, Like
Speaker 1: I know, they don't have Odell Beckham, but of all
Speaker 1: the things on the Giants team, that's not even close
Speaker 1: to my top concern. It's in fact, that might be
Speaker 1: one of the better position groups. And Corey Coleman a
Speaker 1: total wild card. I don't know. I mean in the
Speaker 1: immediate actually was like, oh, this position group is you know,
Speaker 1: falling apart. It's like, let's see if you get anything
Speaker 1: from him. You it's a surprise, Shepherd. It's annoying because
Speaker 1: he's a guy I've always thought put up way bigger
Speaker 1: numbers than he has, and this is the year to
Speaker 1: do it. And so it's a rough start from I
Speaker 1: would say, we don't go to the fantasy Extravaganza for
Speaker 1: a few weeks, but maybe a guy that's gonna now
Speaker 1: drop in your drafts potentially you could get as a bargain.
Speaker 1: Would they be talking about that on the fantasy Corner? Shepherd?
Speaker 1: I thought you were going to make a joke and
Speaker 1: say Eli Manning may be available. And I mean the corner.
Speaker 1: The Corner is a a rough and tumble, violent environment.
Speaker 1: So you know you're getting words out as quick as
Speaker 1: you can in the subject terror is unknown. I heard
Speaker 1: some rumors actually that gentrification had hit the corner, that
Speaker 1: people were like a little upset that there's like a
Speaker 1: lot of like there's a lot of places that are
Speaker 1: like barbershop slash beard slash. They serve a drink to
Speaker 1: you at the same time, like it's I mean, it
Speaker 1: was muggings and shootings before, you prefer that it was
Speaker 1: like fourteen Starbucks, Right, it's just like a coffee shot,
Speaker 1: just a little bit. Well, if that's the case, it
Speaker 1: would be a different tone to the report. We can't
Speaker 1: say for sure we've done going on at the Fantasy corner.
Speaker 1: You'll have to wait until about three or four weeks
Speaker 1: until the Fantasy Extra Extravaganza returns moving and by the way,
Speaker 1: the Giants are working out wide receivers as you might
Speaker 1: imagine too. Kelvin Benjamin reportedly one of them one of
Speaker 1: Dave Gettleman's old draft picks. Oh that sounds like where
Speaker 1: he's gonna end up. Okay. Report from Tyler Dunn, who
Speaker 1: works for Bleacher Report these days, wrote about the forty Niners.
Speaker 1: This one's interesting less the current scouting staff, according to Dunn,
Speaker 1: is feeling increasingly marginalized by head coach Kyle Shannon Shanahan
Speaker 1: and his coaching crew, who are quote far far more
Speaker 1: empowered on draft day. Um. This story comes at a
Speaker 1: time when the Niners this is a big pivotal season
Speaker 1: for them and their leadership and some of the stuff
Speaker 1: that came out of this feature makes you think that
Speaker 1: there's a significant unrest behind the scenes. Well maybe I
Speaker 1: sort of read it as Tyler Dunn got one of
Speaker 1: these disgruntled guys to talk, and then now it seems
Speaker 1: like a soap opera when it's really There are tensions
Speaker 1: in almost every front office between the scouting staff and
Speaker 1: the coaching staff come draft time, and the coaches, especially
Speaker 1: a guy like Kyle Shannon, who has more power than
Speaker 1: most coaches because he had a six year contract, so
Speaker 1: there's a lot more job security there. But it's basically
Speaker 1: the coach has got who they wanted and we didn't
Speaker 1: get who we want. That happens in every front off.
Speaker 1: There was a little nugget they talked about, for instance,
Speaker 1: like running back Joe Williams wasn't even on the Niners
Speaker 1: draft board and the scouts in the room were ripping
Speaker 1: him for quitting on his team in college, but Shanahan
Speaker 1: loved him and the forty Niners got him in the
Speaker 1: fourth round. The article also is littered with offensive players
Speaker 1: praising Shanahan too high Heaven for how he diagnoses and
Speaker 1: takes advantage of weaknesses on other team defenses and the
Speaker 1: Joe Williams pick has a flip side. Shanahan did the
Speaker 1: same thing with George Kittle, who turned out to be
Speaker 1: it was mostly being receiver in history by time positive
Speaker 1: art it was, it was largely positive. But it does
Speaker 1: point out I think Shanahan has more power than most
Speaker 1: head coaches, and I have said if they had to
Speaker 1: choose between one of Lynch and Shanahan, if there were problems,
Speaker 1: I think they would choose Shanahan. This supports that. But
Speaker 1: the bigger, the bigger issue at the front office and
Speaker 1: that staff is they didn't really consider taking Mahomes or Watson.
Speaker 1: They did not think they needed a quarterback in that
Speaker 1: in that draft, they took Solomon Thomas. I mean that's
Speaker 1: not they already had Jimmy g No, they didn't have anyone.
Speaker 1: They drafted C. J. Beathard instead, and they took Solomon
Speaker 1: Thomas number three overall. And you know that's it's easy
Speaker 1: to go back and play hindsight. I mean that helped
Speaker 1: get Sashi Brown fire too. For that was that was
Speaker 1: the Trabisky trade, right yeah, okay, um moving on in
Speaker 1: the news and by the way, program reminder coming up
Speaker 1: next Rosenthal remembers an emotional return to the Ravens nest
Speaker 1: only on the Around the NFL podcast. Did you brief
Speaker 1: correct that this was going to be turned into such
Speaker 1: a high octane thing or see, I was like, I've
Speaker 1: never well, I've never been to Baltimore before, but we
Speaker 1: have been to the Ravens. Uh. Steelers have signed coach
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin to a contract extension, not as beefy as
Speaker 1: what Sean McVeigh got though. UH. This is a one
Speaker 1: year extension. The number um will keep him employed with
Speaker 1: the team or under a team control through the season.
Speaker 1: Tom And of course now forty seven years old, hired
Speaker 1: in two thousand seven, uh and had a Super Bowl
Speaker 1: win in that first year. And it's interesting ten seasons since. Uh,
Speaker 1: They've always been competitive, They've had great teams, They've had
Speaker 1: good teams, never a bad team. Last year fell out
Speaker 1: of the playoff picture and there was some unrest obviously
Speaker 1: behind the scenes to the super stars of the team,
Speaker 1: Levy On Belle and Antonio Brown, both at odds with
Speaker 1: the organization and now play elsewhere. How much heat do
Speaker 1: you put on the head coach for that? Apparently the
Speaker 1: Steelers still have enough faith in Tomlin to give him
Speaker 1: this vote of confidence and keep him from being a
Speaker 1: lame duck, but not true overwhelming. It's like sort of
Speaker 1: like the like only the Bengals allow a coach to
Speaker 1: go into the final year of his contract essentially like
Speaker 1: shout out to mc brown and Marvin Lewis last year,
Speaker 1: but like so they almost have to do this. It's
Speaker 1: it's like the cautious Okay, let's see, like the duck
Speaker 1: that has like a wing that's a little wonky, it's
Speaker 1: not a lame duck. But it's like, right, well, he
Speaker 1: the Steelers have never fired a coach in the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl era and Tomlin has the highest winning percentage in
Speaker 1: franchise history. Twelve years without a losing record is no joke,
Speaker 1: but it's pretty amazing. I see. Also, it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: who are you gonna get? That's better? Remember when you
Speaker 1: have to identify that. But he's I think he's at
Speaker 1: a in terms of his legacy, at an interesting places
Speaker 1: his career because when I think of the Steelers, and
Speaker 1: I think when a lot of Steelers fans think of
Speaker 1: that team, it's the team issues that have happened. You've
Speaker 1: lost star players and you continually dropped the ball in
Speaker 1: the playoffs. You have to change that narrative. That Super
Speaker 1: Bowl feels like a long time ago. Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1: You could look back in five years and say that
Speaker 1: was the point at which he got it back on track,
Speaker 1: or you can say, oh, that that's when the wheels
Speaker 1: came off. So this is kind of the just go
Speaker 1: on never mind a very marks right, it's an important year.
Speaker 1: Movings and I are on the same page as always.
Speaker 1: That's always love it kissing cousins. Moving on, Russell Okun
Speaker 1: scary story. Uh, the Chargers don't have their starting left
Speaker 1: tackle UM a serious health issue issue. It was revealed
Speaker 1: UH Russell Okung put out a UM statement on social
Speaker 1: media that he suffered a pulmonary embolism due to blood
Speaker 1: clots last month. Didn't just talk about mark blood clots.
Speaker 1: Clint Bowling retired because of this. Uh Okung suffered the
Speaker 1: health scare on June one and missed Man to Tory
Speaker 1: minicamp practices. UH. He was placed on the n f
Speaker 1: I list this week ahead of opening camp. There's no
Speaker 1: timetable for Okung. This pretty big deal from team standpoint
Speaker 1: left tackle. Obviously, Here's what o' kung said, um, while
Speaker 1: near death type experiences are certainly a wake up call,
Speaker 1: I'm feeling great physically. It's not an ankle or shoulder.
Speaker 1: As soon as doctors clear me, my plans include blocking
Speaker 1: number seventeens Blindside, that's Philip Rivers all the way to Miami,
Speaker 1: where the Super Bowl will be played in February. I've
Speaker 1: I've had two issues with blood clots and they woke
Speaker 1: me up about the whole thing. And the first one
Speaker 1: was my leg was massively swollen and I could barely
Speaker 1: walk and Adam rank down and our news and was like,
Speaker 1: why are you here? Go to the emergency room. And
Speaker 1: that time I got it treated quickly and it was fine,
Speaker 1: and they said it will never come back. The second
Speaker 1: time was last September when we came back from London.
Speaker 1: Because flights often if he's flying long distance, this is
Speaker 1: a concern for him. You have to be on blood thinners.
Speaker 1: The second time, I had this pulmonary embolism thing, and
Speaker 1: it was blackout pain. It was the most painful thing
Speaker 1: I've ever experience, and you can barely breathe, and its
Speaker 1: like doctors were like, because it sneaks up on you.
Speaker 1: You could have died. It's very much a life for
Speaker 1: death thing, and I'm concerned a little bit the same
Speaker 1: with it had Clint Bowling stuck around. If you're on
Speaker 1: blood dinners and if you get these linemen are constantly
Speaker 1: dealing with blood loss and cuts that we don't even
Speaker 1: know about. You can't stay in a game, I mean
Speaker 1: you can you You have to go to the emergency
Speaker 1: room right away. Typically this is a Super Bowl contender.
Speaker 1: The crumbled down the stretch last year in large part
Speaker 1: because of their offensive line, the right side of their
Speaker 1: offensive line in particular, and surprise me that they did
Speaker 1: nothing to upgrade that line in the off season. And
Speaker 1: now you've got your left tackle a bit of a
Speaker 1: question mark. Moving on, the Tennessee Tytoons did some business.
Speaker 1: They agreed to terms with safety Kevin Byard on a
Speaker 1: five year, seventy point five million dollar extension with thirty
Speaker 1: one million and guarantees. Rap Sheet reported this. The team
Speaker 1: that announced it that it each the multi year deal
Speaker 1: with Bayard, who um it makes him the highest paid
Speaker 1: safety in the league, an average annual value over fourteen million.
Speaker 1: Passing Landon Collins of Washington and the Honey Badger in
Speaker 1: Kansas City. So a guy entering his age twenty six
Speaker 1: season season, Um, Greg, you are fairly high in Tennessee
Speaker 1: as well, I believe, maybe not as high as West,
Speaker 1: but you believe that this team can contend and keep
Speaker 1: a big piece around. And Bayard's kind of like the
Speaker 1: perfect Titan. He's the guy. It's like if anyone makes
Speaker 1: a list of the best safeties and they forget to
Speaker 1: mention Bayard, Titans are fans are just like, have you
Speaker 1: ever heard of a guy named Kevin Byard? Really unless
Speaker 1: you're Dion Sanderson. Really shows you're not paying attention. It's
Speaker 1: kind of true though, because he's like the highest paid
Speaker 1: player in his position, and how many people in America
Speaker 1: know much about Kevin Byard? You know what? Shout out
Speaker 1: to Kevin Byrd who has had a great, you know
Speaker 1: start to his career. Well, he's one of the start
Speaker 1: few star defensive backs that doesn't make the headlines weekly
Speaker 1: by shouting at everyone, nonstopping getting into fight, fake feuds
Speaker 1: with people. I thought their second things like that. I
Speaker 1: thought they'd be much better last year. On paper, they
Speaker 1: look really good in the secondary. That should be the
Speaker 1: strength of their team. Kind of like the Patriots being
Speaker 1: able to match up with anyone but Malcolm Butler was
Speaker 1: a huge disappointment and they really weren't a good secondary
Speaker 1: and that that's where they need to get better. Um
Speaker 1: Dion by the way, and Will Brinson over at CBS
Speaker 1: Every Buddy pointed it out on Twitter. It went from
Speaker 1: over the course of one calendar year, it went from
Speaker 1: Dion thinking that Kevin Byard was a fan on Twitter
Speaker 1: to Kevin Byard being the highest paid safety in the
Speaker 1: National Football League. Uh, look good, play good, play good,
Speaker 1: feel good, feel good, play good, play good, feel good. Uh,
Speaker 1: that's pretty funny, is pretty fast. The good thing is,
Speaker 1: if you're on Sanders, you kind of could just sweep
Speaker 1: it all side and say, don't care. Did he even
Speaker 1: respond to it? I don't know, so nobody even knows.
Speaker 1: That's what you need to it. I believe he did.
Speaker 1: Actually I think he on his show. I think it
Speaker 1: came up. Did he eat he ate the poop? I
Speaker 1: think he did. Yeah, I mean he's he wasn't. He
Speaker 1: wasn't on as high horse about it from from whatever
Speaker 1: calling hey, young buck, that's the one's on me, something
Speaker 1: like that, you like. I mean, I don't know if
Speaker 1: those were the words, it's an unfortunately phrase eat the poop.
Speaker 1: Coming from Evans Silva's Twitter account. Deon's quote to Kevin Byard,
Speaker 1: you stayed being a fan. I'll stay being the man.
Speaker 1: Not only did he think he was a fan, he
Speaker 1: capted by telling you that he is the man. The
Speaker 1: man look good by young Buck. You stay a fan.
Speaker 1: I mean you know this fan was you know, verified
Speaker 1: on Twitter with one followers. That's and it's like some
Speaker 1: people might be listening to this and being like, oh,
Speaker 1: you guys shouldn't like talk about Dion like that he's
Speaker 1: a colleague. He's like no, as a call lead to
Speaker 1: us like a guy that works in I t s
Speaker 1: a colleague with Bill Gates, or like the different way,
Speaker 1: like the president with someone who works like like at
Speaker 1: the lowest levels of the Department of Transportation. Fourteen buildings
Speaker 1: away all right, time for eight o'clock to light. Every
Speaker 1: first round pick is under contract. Uh. Nick Bosa got
Speaker 1: a deal don with the Niners, and my Jets signed
Speaker 1: number three overall pick, Quentin Williams. As usual as over
Speaker 1: nonsense with guaranteed money in the first year that they
Speaker 1: worked it out for everybody's in camp, first Bosa to
Speaker 1: not hold out in family history. One for three. Let's
Speaker 1: feel good. Alan Hearns we talked about on Wednesday, released
Speaker 1: by the Cowboys, suffered that terrible injury in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Not out of work, Long signs a one year deal
Speaker 1: with the Miami Dolphins. I wonder if, I don't know what,
Speaker 1: if he's gonna have a role in Miami, but maybe
Speaker 1: the Giants would have been a potential better spot for him.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but he signed a deal ready, so
Speaker 1: I'm not sure he'd be ab looted to make any
Speaker 1: team moving on. Oh, this is interesting. Speaking of injury news,
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck held out of team drills as a precaution.
Speaker 1: He's got a calf injury, and the team cited what
Speaker 1: happened to Kevin Durant in the NBA Finals wes uh
Speaker 1: in the NBA playoffs where he suffered the calf injury
Speaker 1: in the second round of the playoffs. They held him out,
Speaker 1: brought it back, and he popped the achilles. So they
Speaker 1: used that as a guy to take it easy with
Speaker 1: their start time of the year, to be overly cautious
Speaker 1: so you can get away with it. And Tom Pellisaro
Speaker 1: reported just minutes ago that he was back on the
Speaker 1: field during seven and seven work today. Uh. Speaking of
Speaker 1: seven on seven work, Emmanuel Sanders back to work. The
Speaker 1: Broncos receiver participated in the drills on Wednesday, the first
Speaker 1: team drills he's done since tearing as achilles last December.
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal, they need him. They don't have much, But
Speaker 1: I'm concerned about their wide receivers. A little tell me
Speaker 1: more and more thirty two coming off a torn achilles,
Speaker 1: they almost made my finnest position grew list. A lot
Speaker 1: of question marks with that wide receiver. Patriots have question
Speaker 1: marks on their wide receiver. Cord Danny Etling has moved
Speaker 1: to wide receiver. A seventh round pick in two thousand eighteen.
Speaker 1: He was on the practice squad last year. Uh, former
Speaker 1: quarterback turn wide receiver. You're excited, Greg, I am in
Speaker 1: a missed opportunity here by the Rhoda World writer who
Speaker 1: mentions Terrell Prior and someone else's recent quarterway. Hey, former
Speaker 1: quarterback with the Patriots turning into wide receiver. A little
Speaker 1: white guy I ever heard of, Julian Edelman. Lock it up,
Speaker 1: well that the thing is with he this guy, he
Speaker 1: is a totally different body. Everyone saying, no, it's the
Speaker 1: next Julian Edelman. Well, uh, interesting development in Miami Dolphins
Speaker 1: training camp, where Kalen Ballache Ballagelage was the starting running
Speaker 1: back in team drills at Friday's practice. This is a
Speaker 1: trend this week. New coach Brian Flora is getting tricky.
Speaker 1: I loved his game against the Vikings last year. I
Speaker 1: wish you, I wish you could expand that, but that's it.
Speaker 1: Go watch this game against it. You know you want
Speaker 1: to finish your thought. No, I think it's I if
Speaker 1: I if Brian Flores is gonna run like run his
Speaker 1: offense like the Patriots, You're gonna have four or five
Speaker 1: of them. They're never gonna be one. It's not one
Speaker 1: primary starter. They're all gonna play. Hank was talking Bellage
Speaker 1: up last year. He's a big guys, but maybe he's
Speaker 1: never gonna be. It's gonna be even though we lost
Speaker 1: our championship game. On Wednesday night, the Shield Reflection ceremony
Speaker 1: celebration will be held at the old Zeuster's backyard. Everyone
Speaker 1: here is invited, obviously, including handsome Hank, who has no
Speaker 1: ties really to the Shield, but he's a friend of ours.
Speaker 1: Finance here though, yes he's a financier, but he's in
Speaker 1: England right now with his family. So this party one question,
Speaker 1: would you deem it um safe for young children to
Speaker 1: be during daylight hours? Yeah? Earlier on, yes, I have
Speaker 1: some concerns, like just sort of knowing the Brassie's like
Speaker 1: not a pro you know, I think anything any one
Speaker 1: of these people after dark would be I mean, your
Speaker 1: children will be there, so it has now they're gonna
Speaker 1: be locked. They're gonna be locked in the room for
Speaker 1: nine hours. I'm just gonna like, maybe they're not. My
Speaker 1: children will be there, but we're gonna get a babysitter
Speaker 1: to help out. That's a veteran move, by the way.
Speaker 1: Outside two developments pulling into the NFL media compound today.
Speaker 1: One the mural that we've talked about from time to
Speaker 1: time on the show, featuring a host of all pros
Speaker 1: in the NFL after about a two year run, is
Speaker 1: now being taken down. Rob Gronkowski is on the mural
Speaker 1: with the Patriots. I hope it wasn't because of that
Speaker 1: because he'll be back in a couple of months. But
Speaker 1: also Antonio Brown with the Steelers obviously no longer there
Speaker 1: no longer relevant time wise, so that's been stripped. Also, Greg,
Speaker 1: you saw the same icon walking in I believe he was.
Speaker 1: He had just exited a Mercedes coupe, uh walking with
Speaker 1: him management member the Great Al Michael's I want to
Speaker 1: see what he's doing, what he's Maybe he's taping too,
Speaker 1: menifow one hundred stuff, because that's what I've noticed. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of celebs plan to come through these doors
Speaker 1: or have been coming. I think they're taping some top
Speaker 1: secret NFL had a few of them coming on our
Speaker 1: show potentially hopefully. And you know, you work in the NFL,
Speaker 1: as we've been lucky enough to do for several years now,
Speaker 1: you see a lot of stars up close and personal
Speaker 1: in the sports world, and it loses a little bit
Speaker 1: of its luster over time. You don't get the same
Speaker 1: type of feeling Alan Al I feel like he's an
Speaker 1: uncle that I've never met and I've always admired. So
Speaker 1: he's still kind of has the juice when you see
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, that's how Michael's the NFL one thing.
Speaker 1: It's interesting. We had Keith Crossrow I think is his
Speaker 1: name for menif Bill Films at our Talent summit. He
Speaker 1: made it clear they're not looking to meet standards for
Speaker 1: this thing. They are trying to set standards for sports
Speaker 1: and what goes into sports. List. I mean, when you
Speaker 1: have a show that's hosted by Bill Belichick, Rich Eisen
Speaker 1: and Collinsworth, what that's what a trio? Do you think
Speaker 1: Belichick gets paid for that? Oh? Yes, it's a good question.
Speaker 1: I mean too much that whatever it is, it's he likes,
Speaker 1: probably below what he's worth. Like it's it's probably below
Speaker 1: what he's worth. But yes, because I mean I think
Speaker 1: if you're why wouldn't you be paid for that? It
Speaker 1: would be kind of salting to suggest that he'd do
Speaker 1: it for free. You have to fly out and you
Speaker 1: and provide what I'm sure company is a lot of
Speaker 1: hurting for money. He did a whole day's worth the show.
Speaker 1: He has like six shows or something. You're almost certainly
Speaker 1: right by the way mark. But the way you said
Speaker 1: it was such confidence, like, Oh he likes money, Well
Speaker 1: he does. I mean, I think he's probably been paid
Speaker 1: coach for a long long time. Typic clarify something for
Speaker 1: the the like, do I argue that he should be well,
Speaker 1: I think he like he doesn't talk about it much.
Speaker 1: But I'm sure I'm excited about that because when he's done,
Speaker 1: when he's done some media stuff, it's been good. I
Speaker 1: need more money. This is not the top one players
Speaker 1: of two thousand nineteen. We're talking about the top one
Speaker 1: all time. Very exciting, also very exciting. It's time Rosenthal
Speaker 1: remembers a return to the Ravens nest holy around the podcast.
Speaker 1: All right, Greg, let's get to it. They take you
Speaker 1: on a plane. We gotta make this expend before it
Speaker 1: worth it. I know what. They put you on a plane.
Speaker 1: They sent you to Ravens camp. You did did you do?
Speaker 1: Did some my t c did? Uh? You know? It's
Speaker 1: a very quiet town, Owings Mills. I like that. I
Speaker 1: like seeing like a different little part of the world,
Speaker 1: you know, shout out to the Peruvian Chicken Place and
Speaker 1: open Owensville's big fan. Um. But my I don't know
Speaker 1: my my takeaway. Should we just like go through it
Speaker 1: and all about your trip? Because the Ravens, to me
Speaker 1: and I think we're all on the same page with
Speaker 1: this and Mark you see them as a threat to
Speaker 1: the Browns potential rise to the top. They've seen north.
Speaker 1: This is an interesting team. This is a team. I agree.
Speaker 1: I think they're more interesting than any Ravens team I
Speaker 1: can basically since they drafted Joe Flacco, because it's not
Speaker 1: just that, not just that they're they're going to be
Speaker 1: the most unique offense in the league to prepare for
Speaker 1: and the toughest. But they have more turnover on defense
Speaker 1: than they've had since they won the Super Bowl in
Speaker 1: two thousand, So it's a huge turnover on both sides.
Speaker 1: And the thing that strikes me between Mark what Mark
Speaker 1: Ingram said and watching them and talking is just a
Speaker 1: variety on offensive running place. And I know they did
Speaker 1: a great job with that last year, but I think
Speaker 1: they believe that with a full offseason. They did it
Speaker 1: all on the fly. And Roman wasn't even the coordinator
Speaker 1: last year. It was just kind of doing the running
Speaker 1: game with him too able to install an entire offense
Speaker 1: around Lamar Jackson and Mark Ingram and Gus Edwards in
Speaker 1: that offensive line that the Ingram was saying, the amount
Speaker 1: of running plays is just outrageous. The way they can
Speaker 1: get too different running plays with a billion different formations,
Speaker 1: and watching practice you could see it. You never saw
Speaker 1: the same formation two times in a row. There's so
Speaker 1: many different combinations. They're gonna have two three tight ends
Speaker 1: on the field every snap. And because Lamar Jackson is
Speaker 1: such a unique running talent and those plays, I just
Speaker 1: think it's a great combination and it's just gonna be
Speaker 1: weird and it's gonna be different and tough to prepare for.
Speaker 1: It was a year ago when you know, it was
Speaker 1: question whether John Harbaugh would remain as coach if things
Speaker 1: didn't go well. And the one thing I love about them,
Speaker 1: and I love any football team that decides this is
Speaker 1: not working, We're gonna switch identities in the middle of
Speaker 1: the season and they became a completely different operation. Two questions,
Speaker 1: do you does anything concern you about? I know it's
Speaker 1: one game, but the Chargers playoff game and how they
Speaker 1: put that the hooks on the on the ravens, and
Speaker 1: what happens to this offense when they get into games
Speaker 1: where they have to throw the football, when you when
Speaker 1: all these varieties of run plays don't work and you're
Speaker 1: in the deep into the second quarter, and you know
Speaker 1: it's not gonna get a lot better now, Because to me,
Speaker 1: that's one game, one game in which they had about
Speaker 1: the same amount of yards of the Chargers to two
Speaker 1: offenses that couldn't do much of anything a game. By
Speaker 1: the way that Lamar Jackson led too long touchdown drives
Speaker 1: at the end of the game. No one seems to
Speaker 1: give you any credit for had the ball with the
Speaker 1: chance to goin at the end of the game. I'm
Speaker 1: concerned that he's inconsistent accuracy wise. And then another takeaway
Speaker 1: watching practice, just like that wide receiver group is so
Speaker 1: wide open. You have Willie Snead and about seven or
Speaker 1: eight other guys depending on who you talk to. Different
Speaker 1: people expect guys to step up. You'd be great if
Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown steps right, and he's he's never practiced as
Speaker 1: an NFL player yet. I mean, that's kind of a
Speaker 1: lot to expect. So you have Jordan Laslie's, you know,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of Seth Roberts taking first team snaps.
Speaker 1: That's my Miles Boykin, who's you know, there's so much
Speaker 1: Suster had a big long touchdown. They've been talking up
Speaker 1: Jalil Scott behind the scenes. It's kind of like one
Speaker 1: of those guys that they think is gonna make an impact.
Speaker 1: We'll see, but they have so many different guys at
Speaker 1: wide receiver and yet no, you have really no one
Speaker 1: you can trust other in sneed. You got a good
Speaker 1: look at Lamar, Yeah, I mean it was one It's
Speaker 1: one practice. He was pretty erratic. I mean that's the
Speaker 1: thing watching him. He can make every throw, but but
Speaker 1: he doesn't, but he misses some of the easier ones.
Speaker 1: I think he's really good in terms of his pocket movement.
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna have him, you know, throwing on
Speaker 1: the run a lot. But you know r G three
Speaker 1: was more consistent, you know, for it was one day,
Speaker 1: but it was it was interesting to see in two
Speaker 1: thousand nineteen, you know, players walking off the field the
Speaker 1: first day of training game was a great scene. The
Speaker 1: crowd was it was awesome there. I mean they were
Speaker 1: chanting during training camp, like you know, just in at
Speaker 1: random moments, except for one guy who was like heckling Lamar,
Speaker 1: Jack's why would you show up to training camp? He
Speaker 1: was really hecky. But I heard of one guy goes
Speaker 1: like who are you throwing it to Lamar? And he
Speaker 1: like made one other comp I was like, what is
Speaker 1: wrong with alcohol? No, that is it's really It's like
Speaker 1: it's like I'm not surprised there's a guy like that.
Speaker 1: It was one guy, it was like nine. It wasn't
Speaker 1: a great I mean, I went. I went to a
Speaker 1: couple of Jets training camps at Hofstra University in Long Island,
Speaker 1: and and and we've been to RAMS camp. It is
Speaker 1: typically a love fest. It was the watch in terms
Speaker 1: of like flapping and making little chance and stuff. They
Speaker 1: were the most active training camp crowd I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: But Lamar was pretty he was frustrated because he was
Speaker 1: having uh an up and down day. Ole there for
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Speaker 1: It is a beautiful setting, Steve Weiste. It's got to
Speaker 1: be one of the nicest, just training facilities, the building, everything,
Speaker 1: the big Raven you know, carved painted into the grass.
Speaker 1: Like there's something about football in in July in August
Speaker 1: that just gets here. Grant Ravens romance is already annoying
Speaker 1: to me. They're more interesting when a team goes from uninteresting.
Speaker 1: I mean this is going to until they're finally eliminated.
Speaker 1: We're going to be dealing with this weekes his teams.
Speaker 1: That are his teams, the one team I would refer
Speaker 1: you to never. I've always been pretty anti Raven actually,
Speaker 1: because t is not great with the Browns rise or
Speaker 1: the timing is excellent. If you ask me, I love it.
Speaker 1: It will be fun to watch because the Chargers were
Speaker 1: your team last year. I mean, you're cheating on the
Speaker 1: paths with now clearly it's the team of Baltimore, which
Speaker 1: is the team that, true as a Patriots fan, has
Speaker 1: annoyed me the most over the years, has been the
Speaker 1: Ravens for a couple of those performances. Here's the thing
Speaker 1: about the concept of an interesting football team. They only
Speaker 1: last as long as you went right. It only lasted
Speaker 1: as long as you know. They start the season with
Speaker 1: the Cardinals and the Dolphins, which they have to be
Speaker 1: thinking the scheduling guys for at because I think it
Speaker 1: allows them to kind of ease into the season. People
Speaker 1: are people are worried about Lamar, but it's like, yes,
Speaker 1: he's not as good a passer as uh, they're consistent
Speaker 1: as he would like. He was a twenty one year
Speaker 1: old starter. And the difference is he's a better runner
Speaker 1: than any of the running quarterbacks before. So it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: running quarterbacks even worked well, they haven't been the same
Speaker 1: as Lamar Jackson, especially in this NFL. What you're saying,
Speaker 1: he's a better running quarterback than Michael Vick. I think
Speaker 1: he's the best one since Michael Vick and maybe better.
Speaker 1: He was on pace to shatter the rushing rookie rushing record.
Speaker 1: They had the most successful yeah part, and I don't
Speaker 1: think that makes him a better runner than Michael Vick.
Speaker 1: The way the ease that they picked up seventy eight
Speaker 1: yards from him, I mean they had the best eight
Speaker 1: games stretching forty years running. He turned Gus Edwards to
Speaker 1: a top five back. Gus Edwards outgained Zeko Elliot, Christian
Speaker 1: McCaffrey after Lamar Jackson took over anything until that. It's
Speaker 1: a great landing spot for mark Ingram and greg Or.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm excited to why greg growing. But part
Speaker 1: of it that I'm into them too is the defense.
Speaker 1: Like right now, Patrick on Watsu is the guy taking
Speaker 1: over for ray Lewis and spot and like, and he
Speaker 1: to me is like a symbol of the team. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's calling place. He never even played linebacker until he
Speaker 1: was a prose Now he's, you know, one of the
Speaker 1: leaders of that group, and it's like a totally remade group.
Speaker 1: That's kind of a mystery. Do you think they are
Speaker 1: the favorite to win the North in your mind? Now?
Speaker 1: I think the Steelers and the Browns, I would say,
Speaker 1: are more of a favorite. But I think they're all.
Speaker 1: It's not much separating those three any other takeaways from
Speaker 1: your time. My my strongest opinion is less about the
Speaker 1: time there, although he had a great day, Mark Andrews,
Speaker 1: but more about watching the Lamar Jackson tape. That Mark Andrews,
Speaker 1: to me, is like an unbelievable making the leap candidate
Speaker 1: to be a pro bowler right now, to gain eight
Speaker 1: hundred to a thousand yards and be a badass blocker,
Speaker 1: and for him and Hayden Hurst and Nick Boyle to
Speaker 1: cause a lot of problems. And I think that's kind
Speaker 1: the centerpiece of their often even though it's it's Lamar
Speaker 1: and the tight ends and Ingram and all the different
Speaker 1: things you can do with those guys. And Andrews, I
Speaker 1: guess because he was a late, you know, third round pick,
Speaker 1: and he was on the Ravens didn't get a ton
Speaker 1: of of But for a rookie tight end to look
Speaker 1: that good, like I am expecting him to be a badass, Well,
Speaker 1: he's in the right offense because Lamar Jackson throws almost
Speaker 1: exclusively to his tight ends and rarely throws outside the
Speaker 1: numbers or rarely completes passes outside the numbers. Anyway, I
Speaker 1: do have a hot take on the Baltimore you know,
Speaker 1: um on the on the sun in Baltimore, so you
Speaker 1: know this time you're you know, it's humid people, a
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of complete that mid Atlantic sun.
Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't all the candle to the West
Speaker 1: Coast sun. I get. Give me eighty three on the
Speaker 1: East coast over seventy three or even seventy one in
Speaker 1: terms of sunny strength on the West coast. It's powerful.
Speaker 1: It's less powerful. I think that's science because it's like
Speaker 1: farther away from the equator, you can you can stand
Speaker 1: out in that East coast. Son. It's true. I was,
Speaker 1: you know, I was in Massachusetts too when it was degrees.
Speaker 1: You can be out in that sun for a little while.
Speaker 1: You're out here and it's seventy two degrees and that thing,
Speaker 1: that thing is gonna burn it. You reported that you
Speaker 1: showed up there and you forgot all your underwear. Also,
Speaker 1: well that's true. I had to you know, yeah, I
Speaker 1: wore what I decided war. I had an extra pair
Speaker 1: of you know, athletic shorts, so I just used that
Speaker 1: as my underwear and then you know, I hit the target.
Speaker 1: This is actually the second road trip this season that
Speaker 1: that's target. I had a target, and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: but what did you wear one day one? I just
Speaker 1: went with like my running shorts underneath. Actual. I shared
Speaker 1: this nugget before the show, but I feel like the
Speaker 1: audience would like it to note as well. There was
Speaker 1: this guy that I went to high school with named Burger,
Speaker 1: who loved playing basketball, and uh, you know, he just
Speaker 1: was all about it that every day at school he
Speaker 1: wore jim shorts under his jeans in case a game
Speaker 1: broke out. I've done that before, just in case. Sounds
Speaker 1: like a man with a vibrant social life. It's a
Speaker 1: lot of layers. Um last thought connected to the Ravens
Speaker 1: because she wrote that making the lead piece as well.
Speaker 1: Greg Let's do a little over under twenty nineteen. Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson over under three thousand passing yards overs un West
Speaker 1: over under fourteen passing yards seven. He had more yards
Speaker 1: for a tempt than Andrew luck by the way last year,
Speaker 1: and Matthew Stafford Lamar Jackson. Where would but Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: if you had a peg? I know yardage isn't the
Speaker 1: indicator necessarily of greatness, but I think he's a pastor
Speaker 1: passing yards somewhere in the undred to three thousand yard
Speaker 1: ring fourteen and a half touchdown passes. I want to clarify,
Speaker 1: I think he'll probably be injured at some point as
Speaker 1: much as he runs too, so that factors into my
Speaker 1: statistical guess. All right, twelve and a half starts. Wow,
Speaker 1: over over over on all these paces from last fourteen
Speaker 1: and a half touchdowns, yea over passing touchdowns. But you
Speaker 1: want a second year quarterback to be better than his
Speaker 1: previous pace. Right now, I'm saying that that these are
Speaker 1: pretty low bars. These are nine rushing yards over whoa Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: what do you think mark over? Because I'm gonna seven starts.
Speaker 1: So you see you see four thousand combined yards passing
Speaker 1: and rushing. You see a guy that has maybe thirty
Speaker 1: total touchdowns. You see a guy that's basically a young VIC.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a young star. I mean
Speaker 1: he was. That's the thing that did. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it was that game or what. I feel like
Speaker 1: the bar or the like moved for him so much
Speaker 1: like change, like moving the field the first three quarters
Speaker 1: of that playoff loss. And I know he was picked
Speaker 1: up his numbers and made it look he was, but
Speaker 1: so is Marshall Yonda. Marshall Yonda was terrible. The offensive
Speaker 1: line was terrible, the running game was terrible. They were
Speaker 1: all terrible. The whole game counts too, Like to me,
Speaker 1: the fact that he had made some badass throws in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter like counts for something. And he was
Speaker 1: a rookie, so I'm not. And all these running plays
Speaker 1: you're talking about, that's fine. But the flip side of
Speaker 1: that is every defensive coordinator in the league has spent
Speaker 1: the off season trying to figure out this defense is
Speaker 1: not going to be as easy as but it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a totally different offense, I think. And he's a game.
Speaker 1: Their owner even said that he's not going to run
Speaker 1: as much as he did last year. Um, all right,
Speaker 1: good stuff, Thank you, Greg. That was as emotional as
Speaker 1: I thought it would be. You know, it feels like
Speaker 1: it really you didn't grow up in that area, but
Speaker 1: it was no I felt a connection. I move there
Speaker 1: some day, probably not, but I've never been there. And
Speaker 1: I'll tell you, like you know residents in there's some
Speaker 1: strange things going on at the residents and like spirits
Speaker 1: like just people that have clearly been living there for
Speaker 1: like months, it seems to have their dogs. They leave
Speaker 1: their dogs. No, but I just the whole vibe. It
Speaker 1: was quiet. I liked it. It was different if you're
Speaker 1: a long term resident at the Residents in and the
Speaker 1: dogs staying home during the day and I don't know
Speaker 1: where you're going. I think you want sideways at some
Speaker 1: point your life. I'm not saying you're a bad person
Speaker 1: or your life's bad or whatever. It's just maybe things
Speaker 1: haven't gone to plant they have. Let's settle down on
Speaker 1: dogs to begin with. Please you know you when you
Speaker 1: put the sign on your door that says do not disturb.
Speaker 1: They have like very much many different options for those
Speaker 1: at the Residents, including one that's like pooch in the
Speaker 1: room or something like that, like leave it alone, my
Speaker 1: dogs in the room. You were you were, oh, look
Speaker 1: out that you would think at some point that you're
Speaker 1: staying in a better hotel, like if it's a hotel
Speaker 1: allows dogs, which is weird the way, because like, all right,
Speaker 1: you can bring your dog, and then the next person
Speaker 1: that goes in there, I don't need that, don't They
Speaker 1: try to put people with dogs into the rooms. That
Speaker 1: have already had dogs in. Yeah, I think there's a
Speaker 1: convention and you're you gotta put everyone and everyone in
Speaker 1: your in a room with all this like golden shepherd
Speaker 1: hair on your pillow in the Sicilia. I don't stay
Speaker 1: at the shooting residents in with the dogs. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: stayed a kennel so I could be close to the
Speaker 1: team headquarters. I just wanted to be like two miles away.
Speaker 1: That was the choice. Get some points and travel with
Speaker 1: a dog. Where are you supposed to stay? Don't travel
Speaker 1: with the dog. Well, that's not the answer because it's
Speaker 1: not right and that for a dog to travel either,
Speaker 1: a dog needs stability. It needs to have For me, no,
Speaker 1: I love dogs like. The reason I don't have a
Speaker 1: dog is I want a bigger yard to have a dog.
Speaker 1: I want to be home all the time. I want
Speaker 1: people home. A dog shouldn't be stuffed dog underneath. And
Speaker 1: you can travel with your dog, you can, but it
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you should. What if you're on a road
Speaker 1: trip driving for ten hours and you have the dog
Speaker 1: with you, that's a one off thing, that's fine, But
Speaker 1: if it's if you're continually traveling with a dog, I
Speaker 1: don't really count like the eight pound dogs. That's barely
Speaker 1: a dog to me. I mean, like, don't be a
Speaker 1: traveling salesman with a dog or a truck driver with
Speaker 1: a dog. I don't know, just because what most other
Speaker 1: things would be a one off. The dog is stable
Speaker 1: home where it lives most of its life, and it's
Speaker 1: not being put through airport security and things of that nature.
Speaker 1: If you're a truck driver, you gotta have a Bassett
Speaker 1: Hound in the front seat. I mean I wouldn't, but
Speaker 1: but others mind, Fred, wasn't that east bounding town. We'll
Speaker 1: be back next week with three more shows, so make
Speaker 1: sure you join us. And uh we are bat We're
Speaker 1: in full swing now. I have a little little tiny
Speaker 1: weekend opener to play for you. Okay, it's just a
Speaker 1: little vibe. We're getting into the weekend. Stop telling me
Speaker 1: that the seasons here and we can't have fund as
Speaker 1: human beans anymore. M hm, hut it up, turn it off.
Speaker 1: Yes there is. That's Homer Simpson's dad. I love it.
Speaker 1: The Shields Remembrance slash reflection ceremony zeus or manner on Saturday,
Speaker 1: um and we'll be back Monday, God willing. That's it.
Speaker 1: Dan handsOn signing off four Quiet Storm, the Mailman, the
Speaker 1: old Boss, Ricky Hollywood, behind the glass, Ricky, you coming,
Speaker 1: You promise, yes, I will be there. There will hell
Speaker 1: to pay, well, rain fire if you're not there till
Speaker 1: Monday