1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast creators of the GM reddit board. 2 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:10,319 Speaker 1: Damn right. Welcome to another edition of the Around the 3 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: NFL Podcast, presented by Sirius XM. My name is Dan Hansis, 4 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: and I'm joined in a room bell with heroes Mark Sessler, 5 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: Chris Westling and Greg Roseval. What is up? Boys? Hey? Dan, 6 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: We're all together and it feels damn good. But not 7 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: everything feels good. The Shield Dynasty is over. Long Live 8 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: the Shield. The Company co ed softball team went down 9 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: in the finals to Barney's nooner'st to ten dug ourselves 10 00:00:54,760 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: a whole deep hole, felon nothing and crawled their way back, 11 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: scored ten runs in the last what was it two innings? 12 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:08,279 Speaker 1: Was two innings? I think rally came up painfully short. 13 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: Our great player on deck as the tying run, when 14 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: our one of our top girls got caught off first base, 15 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: gotten run down, tagged out. It's like Babe Ruth when 16 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: he got thrown out trying to steal second in the 17 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: World Series. All just like all those years ago. Wait, 18 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: like rounding first or something, trying to go to second, 19 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: trying to make something happen. And uh, because we are listeners, 20 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: have been interested in the Shield for three seasons. Now 21 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: this feels like the right time for a press conference. 22 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: Any thoughts about the season and we have a lot 23 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: to get to today and the right of the podcast, 24 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: But the most important thing is what happened with the 25 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: Shield and Wednesday? Still take some questions? Quick press conference? 26 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: All right right here? All right there? Can we start 27 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: with your decision at picture skip. A smattering of blogs, 28 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: vlogs and talk radio outlets are pinning you for starting 29 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: Brooke from a original content on the Mound over a 30 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: surging Matt ten. Would you do it again? I do 31 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: it again? Yes? I really thought Brooke, although she had 32 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: missed the bulk of the season, Um, she had carried 33 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: us in a lot of ways to our first two 34 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: titles on the Bump. And it was not an easy decision, 35 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: And I worked with my consigliari West Um trying to 36 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: come up with the right move. And maybe it was 37 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: the right move. Maybe if Maddie's on the mound, um 38 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 1: the same outcome, we lose. But I felt good going 39 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: with what I thought was our best team. Uh, West, 40 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: you haven't any dain to that we had reached a 41 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: decision that we would have been fined with either of 42 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 1: those people pitching. That pitching was not our issue. We 43 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: have other issues, but pitching was not Either one of 44 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: those persons would have done the job just far. Next, 45 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: we gotta score more than ten runs, and I was 46 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,360 Speaker 1: gonna right there. But I had a big softball for you. 47 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: But that answer begs the question, well, what are what 48 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 1: are the issues? Our leadoff hit her started the game 49 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: over three, including striking out to start the game. Now, West, 50 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 1: you you're a warrior, and I want people to know that, Chris, 51 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: that just shows you what time a man he is 52 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: that he's gonna say that. Yes, slow start, you finished strong. 53 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: You played a big part in the seventh inning rally, 54 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: played very good defense. It was you were not the 55 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 1: reason we lost. But we didn't play our cleanest game. 56 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: We did not play a great defensive game. We didn't 57 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: pitch our best game. But it wasn't just that we 58 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: left runs on the field. We let run score that 59 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 1: shouldn't have scored. We just didn't play our a game. 60 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 1: We were the best team in the league. We just 61 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: weren't the best team on Wednesday night. And that's sports 62 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: anything else. It was execution. We just failed to execute. 63 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: Got to ask this. I ken I spoke with a 64 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: source downstairs who told me there was an aura of 65 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: this sort of might be our last go around after 66 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: the loss. You skip of toyed with retirement for years verbally, 67 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's sort of a cat and 68 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: string operation with the press. Where are you Are you 69 00:03:56,120 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: coming back next season? Um, I'm not ready to answer 70 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: that right now. It's a very emotional time. It's it 71 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: was one of the toughest losses of my career. Absolutely, 72 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: I think we were all very confident. Some people I 73 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: know in the media thought was that we were overconfident, 74 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 1: which I don't think was that was not That was 75 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: not the issue at all. Over confidence was not an issue. 76 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 1: Were you were more because usually you always talked down 77 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: your expectations and then the last week you guys, you 78 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: you were talking them up. That I just wasn't an issue. 79 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,160 Speaker 1: I don't think it was one. More for coach quick 80 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: follow up we quit. I mean, any thoughts, let's how 81 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: you you do come back next year? But with a 82 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: new wave of NFL media employees on the team, Let's 83 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,239 Speaker 1: say William mc ginnis, La Danian, Tomlinson and maybe Dion 84 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: Sanders to systematically drop an a bomb on these Hammond 85 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 1: Eggers that are populated the rest cut you off right there. 86 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: That's a clown question, bro, It's a clown question. I 87 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: love my team, I support my team. This is a 88 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: great team that has heart for days and we didn't 89 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 1: get it done. But it's this is not a tear down. 90 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: This is not the end of the shield. Um, maybe 91 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: the end of skip. And I don't know about the 92 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: third base West. I know you said some things after 93 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: the game, was about a potential retirement. Any thoughts, uh 94 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: that you have on that. Well, my skills have it 95 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: wrote it and um, physically weaker. It's just not I'm 96 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: just not as good as I was a few years ago, 97 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 1: and it doesn't feel good to be one of the 98 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 1: reasons we lost. That's a new feeling for me in softball. 99 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: So it's sort of a wake up call and it 100 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: gives me a greater appreciations for say Brett Farve or 101 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: Brend Roethlisberger or Gronk where you say after the season, 102 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: I'm probably hanging them up and then maybe you get 103 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 1: a few months to think about it. But I feel 104 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 1: like I'm gonna leave my spikes on the back of 105 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,919 Speaker 1: the dugout. Maybe these are maybe you guys are the 106 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen Patriots though you started the you know, 107 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 1: press release saying the dynasty is over. But who knows. 108 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: Maybe it's just just winning next year and it's just 109 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: one little championship loss. That's part of the greater story. 110 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 1: The shield is at a crossroads. I think that is 111 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: a good way to put it all right, coming up 112 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: on today's show and pressor um, oh, this is a 113 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: good thing. Rosenthal remembers a return to the Ravens nest, Like, 114 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: what is that plan this segment? What is this? Coming 115 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: up later today, Greg flew across the country and the 116 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: NFL's dime thanks Rog and um watched camp and I 117 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: we haven't I don't know about you guys. I haven't 118 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:30,799 Speaker 1: cost a lot of money. By the way, it costs 119 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: a lot of money. Um, I haven't talked to you 120 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 1: at all about your trips, so class on the way 121 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: back very expensive. That was a nice drop, and I'm 122 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: happy with the title he came up with. But it 123 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: just makes me really miss Greggy does Dallas. A lot 124 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: of people speculated we had mentioned during our our tour 125 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: of conference rooms across NFL media here when the studio 126 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: is being refurbished, whether the Debbie does Dallas or Greggy 127 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 1: does Dallas segment was what god us almost fired. No, 128 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: now we not at all. A semi started talking to 129 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 1: about that, but we were never threatened our job. So anyway, 130 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: Greg was in Baltimore, his boys, the Ravens. Um I 131 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: got to see his boy, Lamar. Maybe we'll talk a 132 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: little bit about your making the lead piece a Lamar Jackson. 133 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: A lot to get to over there, um As we 134 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: jumped back into the Ravens nest. But before that, what 135 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: we're hearing presented by Sirius XM. Let's do some news. Ricky. 136 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: We're in Tampa Bay for inside training camp. You heard 137 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: that saying when in Rome, do as the Romans do. 138 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: How about in Tampa. In Tampa, when you're in Tampa, 139 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: you do as the Bucks do. I got my b 140 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: a head. You're jealous. You gotta have one of these things. 141 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: Everybody's gotta have one of these things, but it has one. 142 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: I have one. Now, we got a great show for you. 143 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: We're live at practice. No, not that rapper, I'm talking 144 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: about Ian Rappaport. With all the breaking news around the League. 145 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: Nobody does it better than him. And then our host 146 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: Andrew says, Siliano, He's been all over the world. He 147 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: goes everywhere. Just follow him on social media. I'm plugging 148 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: there and remember that. Okay, but he's here in Tampa 149 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: and you're lucky to have him live NFL Network inside 150 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: Trading Camp. I'll see you later. We need him to 151 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: hype us. We need this this kind of treatment from 152 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: Charlie Castle. Charlie Castle a real person. GM, he's got rings, 153 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: he's got a great life. But sometimes I it amazes 154 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: me when I just I watched him in action and 155 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: the things that he says. We should get him on 156 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: the show. This clip, by the way, if you if 157 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: you look at his Twitter feed, this clip took place 158 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: the entire time he unfurled that speech wearing a red 159 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: you know, Bruce arians cat that that's what he was 160 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 1: referring to. But through the jaws of a gigantic like 161 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: dinosaur mouth, the Tampa Bay fish um skull and bones. 162 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 1: I mean, it was it was a check it out. 163 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: It was the whole thing, all right. Let's get into 164 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 1: the news starting right here. In Los Angeles, the Rams 165 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: did some business signing coach Sean McVeigh to a five 166 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: year extension UH and also extending general manager Less Snead. 167 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: McVeigh is thirty three years old now under contract through three. 168 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: It wasn't a situation where they had to get a 169 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: deal done right now, but they know what they have 170 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: in McVeigh. Um Greg who when he got hired was 171 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: I would to call him an unknown, but he was 172 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: obviously untested and it it was a bit of a 173 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: leap of faith and it turned out to go gangbusters. 174 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: To use a check is um he's twenty four and eight. 175 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: That the thing of the disappointment coming off the Super 176 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: Bowl loss is overlooking, like how fast and quickly they 177 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: established themselves as really the most consistent team right now 178 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: in the NFC. And the reason why I like not 179 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: that they need, you know, any kudos for signing McVeigh. 180 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: It's obviously safe, but he seems so good at all 181 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: the other things. He gets so much credit for scheming, 182 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: but he seems so good at all the other things 183 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 1: that you know, a head coach is required to do, 184 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: which is managing his staff, managing the players, man organization, 185 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: managing the day to day things that come with being 186 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: a coach. They I think it did need to happen now, 187 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: But because Mike Silver reported that McVeigh was believed to 188 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: be the lowest paid coach in the league after the 189 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 1: Super Bowl and was less getting less money than Matt 190 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: Laflour and Zach Taylor. So there was it. Basically, they 191 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: came to him right after that game and said we're 192 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: going to get something done and makes complete sense. Very 193 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: smart and they and they say West And in baseball 194 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: they say it's vital to be very strong up the 195 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: middle catcher, which a shortstop center field. Same thing in 196 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: football with you have to be strong ownership, the general manager, 197 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: the coach, the quarterback. And that's why the Rams are 198 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,719 Speaker 1: where they are. For the past three years, they went 199 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: from being a laughing stock organization to sort of the 200 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: new paradigm for success in the NFL. And the dozen 201 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 1: years before McVeigh they won thirty one point five percent 202 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 1: of their games. Since they hired him, they've won seventy 203 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: of their games. Doesn't get much better than that. Let's 204 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: need a you know, a nice decision. I guess by 205 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: ownership who you know. It was not a popular ownership 206 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 1: group and one of the least successful ownership groups in 207 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: the NFL, and until mc they came on a good decision, 208 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 1: uh to keep less Sneed in pair him with McVeigh 209 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 1: because I think it's clearly one A, one B that 210 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: less Need is fulfilling mcveigh's vision. But they really worked 211 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: well together. Sneed was on the ropes too before McVeigh 212 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: was kind of like his Hail Mary in a way, 213 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: and it could not have worked out. He'd be like 214 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: a cat on his fourth life right now, right, eight 215 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: and a half maybe, I mean, he wasn't that far 216 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: first first several years, right, but he also you're saying 217 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: he died eight times. I don't know if he also 218 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: took over he also took over what was literally the 219 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: worst three year run in NFL history before Jeff Fisher 220 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: got there. So I was like, yeah, he was doing 221 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: okay before. Okay, I'm just saying he's at about live 222 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: four and a half, five lives. Would you mind the 223 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 1: difference goes six? No, it's too many, I mean, and 224 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 1: I don't even believe that that's true of cats to 225 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: begin with. I think that was a bunch of malarkey. Well, 226 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: you had like nine cats in your backyard at one point. 227 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 1: They're all gone. Did you multiply them by nine? No, 228 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:10,559 Speaker 1: but I don't know. They were taken out of my 229 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 1: household thankfully. Alright, so the Rams do business. You know 230 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: who wants to do business? Michael Thomas, the Star Saints 231 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: wide receiver. Uh. He wants a new deal. Um. He 232 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,719 Speaker 1: wants to get paid like what he is, which is 233 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,599 Speaker 1: a superstar. He's in the superstar club, which means a 234 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: lot to him. But he's a two thousand and sixteen 235 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: second round pick, which means he doesn't make a lot 236 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: of money. He makes one point one million. Uh, as 237 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: he enters the he's set to make one point eight 238 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: one point one for eight million. He's enters the final 239 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: year of his rookie contract. Uh. He wants to get 240 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: paid like a star, and that's why he's holding out. 241 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: Mike Garret, Folo and Ian Report. Rapp Report reported that 242 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: Thomas did not report to training camp with teammates. He's 243 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: seeking a new deal and West he's staying away until 244 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 1: he gets one. Here we go again. He reportedly wants 245 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: at least twenty million a year, which would make him 246 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:02,839 Speaker 1: the highest paid wide receiver in the NFL, and for 247 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: stretches of last season, he was the best receiver in 248 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: the NFL. I thought Sean Payton had an interesting point 249 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: when he basically said, because of the collecting a bargaining 250 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: agreement they signed in two thousand eleven that got rid 251 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: of the rookie wage scale, we don't see rookie holdouts. Instead, 252 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: we see those holdouts happen at the end of the 253 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: rookie deals. And because the CBA's ending after this season, Uh, 254 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: it makes negotiations a little trickier, uh, in terms of 255 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: how you can push money out into the future and 256 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: what the next CBA is gonna look like. Like players 257 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:39,319 Speaker 1: that are signing five six year deals right now are 258 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 1: taking a big risk that by the end of that 259 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: they're really gonna end up looking underpaid. I think it's 260 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: a perfect time to have a hole that this guy, 261 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,839 Speaker 1: I mean, Michael Thomas might be the most in shape 262 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,719 Speaker 1: player in the NFL. Like, if I'm the Saints, do 263 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: you really care that he misses three weeks of training camp. 264 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 1: I don't think it'll matter. It sounds like they're not 265 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: that far apart in that, I mean they I don't 266 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: see the lingering beyond this this summertime period. But you 267 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: do have to you have to Julio Jones still sitting 268 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 1: out there. Well, I feel like we're into year eight 269 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: of talking about him getting a contract extension at some point, 270 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: and you've got tyreek Hill potentially too, So there's gonna 271 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:15,439 Speaker 1: be you have to see where those numbers come in 272 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 1: when they do. Julio Jones wants a deal and Mark 273 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: Cooper a j Green Beckham by the way, your boy 274 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham. Mark currently the highest paid receiver. He makes 275 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: eighteen mill a season, and Thomas wants more. By the way, 276 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: we've been tracking this Zekiel Elliott hold out situation, and 277 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: you know, we have a lot of reporters here at 278 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: NFL Network and this is money time for the network. 279 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: They like to this is where they flex and they 280 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: show we have feet on the ground everywhere and we're 281 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: covering every breath and every movement in training camp. Yesterday 282 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: was a great example where Jane Slater goes viral in 283 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: the news industry by reporting that Zeke was not on 284 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: the team on the plane to ox and Hard for 285 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: training camp, and sure enough, he did not attend his 286 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: physical or the team's conditioning run Friday at Cowboys training camp, 287 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: which opens. He is indeed holding out there was talk 288 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: Mark that if talks between the Cowboys and Zeke, we're 289 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: moving in a positive direction. Um, even if a deal 290 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: didn't get done, he was going to potentially show up. 291 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if this means that things are not 292 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: going well, but there's no deal in place and Zeke 293 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: is staying away from now. These are one of these 294 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: stories I get. I get that we all eyes on 295 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: this and it's the it's the perfect storm of the 296 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: Cowboys and Ezekiel Elliott, and it's we're looking for all 297 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: this to magnify it. But wake me up in a month, 298 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: because I feel like the only holdout that truly concerns 299 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: me if I'm a fan right now, would be Melvin Gordon. 300 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,359 Speaker 1: The rest of them, I just am I wrong? Should 301 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: I be feeling? I was losing sleep at night over 302 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: the idea that the Cowboys are gonna let Zeke Elliott 303 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: go weeks into the regular season unsigned or hold feeling 304 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: is everyone gets signed by that first week of the season. 305 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: It's gonna get up. That's how I would Chargers fans 306 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: could be. I'd be really surprised if they sign Ezekie Elliot. 307 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: I think he's just gonna have to cave because I 308 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: think Dak Prescott gets paid for but I think he's 309 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: gonna hold out game. That's what I'm saying that I 310 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: don't know, That's what I'm saying. I don't know if 311 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: they can figure out some other way to get him 312 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: into camp or if he's just happy to skip a 313 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: couple of weeks of camp, which isn't surprising. I'd be like, 314 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: just like a little bit concerned with Zeke because he's 315 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: shown up to camp out of you know, relatively out 316 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: of shape multiple times, and he's been very durable. But 317 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: if he does show up out of shape and he 318 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: steps on the field week one with the hamstring monster 319 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: comes get him, I'd be a little nervous. As a 320 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: Dallas fan. And Melvin Gordon I have to say, like, 321 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: I don't know whose agent is or what what's going 322 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: on behind the scenes, but I I kind of worry 323 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: for this guy a little bit because he seems to 324 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: be going to and there's another report out there that 325 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: he's willing to hold out into the season. A Chargers 326 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: team that has pieces there that you could easily see 327 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: them getting out to a good start in the running 328 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: game not being a problem for them, and then he's 329 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: kind of left in a add why he seems to 330 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: be vulnerable right now? I agree. I don't know if 331 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: he knows, and if I was, you know, Trent Williams 332 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: is the other one, because you know he's a left 333 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: tackle and Eric Flowers right now is your left tackle. 334 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: I know. And no one expects the Redskins to be 335 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: any good. But when you're when you're replacing the best 336 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: player on your team with Eric Flowers, that feels like 337 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: when you have the rare situation where you have a 338 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: friend who was in a long term relationship with someone 339 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 1: they broke up, but they're still because they're at the 340 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: least they're living together after they've broken up. The Redskins 341 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: and Trent Williams, that's how I see that. Do you 342 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: think is made out of soley hamstrings or is it 343 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: like a beating heart with hamstrings around it or what? 344 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: That sounds pretty scary. I think it's more like a 345 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: gnome that pops out of the dairy and it just 346 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: like slaps you in the hamstring and then like goes 347 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: back undergrounds like like a whack a mole. Bad news 348 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 1: for the New York Giants, of course, they are looking 349 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,360 Speaker 1: to move on from the O B j Era and Sterling. 350 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: Shepherd is a big part of that. Uh. He just 351 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: got a four year, forty one million dollar contract extension 352 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: in April, but he will be shut down for the 353 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: time being after being diagnosed with a thumb fracture. It 354 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: happened on Thursday at practice. Will be evaluated on a 355 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: week to week basis. UH. We talked about Julian Edelman 356 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: up in New England also dealing with what I believe 357 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 1: is a fracture um UM, but that happened obviously before this. 358 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 1: They think they're okay with the Patriots with the idea 359 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: that he'll be back ready for Week one. We'll see 360 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: with Shepherd based on the timing of this and UM. 361 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 1: Mike Garrafolo reported that this this has the potential to 362 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: go right up against the start of the season, so 363 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: he could miss Week one against the Cowboys six weeks 364 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: from Sunday, and the news didn't get any better. On 365 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: the same day that Shepherd got hurt. Corey Coleman, the 366 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: former Brown's first round pick, trying to get his career 367 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: on track and in line for a big role with 368 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 1: the Giants, he tore his a c L You know, 369 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: try to speak to the football gods. Last week they 370 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: didn't listen um and that was largely Jets spaced, so 371 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: I think they've listened so far. Knock on wood, but 372 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: I wanted everyone to stay healthy. It's not working out 373 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: that way. Uh. Coleman towards a c L and he 374 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: will obviously be out for the season. That usually involves 375 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: reconstructive knee surgery. Bad break for Coleman and he had 376 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 1: they were saying he had a chance to be the 377 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: number three receiver. I believe he was actually penciled into 378 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 1: that role. Cody Latimer played pretty well at the end 379 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: of the year, so I don't see a big drop 380 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: off there now both of the probably one of those 381 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: guys was gonna get cut. One of them would be 382 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: a number three receiver. I don't think they're that bad 383 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 1: at receiver with Tate Shepard and Ingram if those guys 384 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: are healthy, and Barkley essentially as a fourth receiver, Like 385 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 1: I know, they don't have Odell Beckham, but of all 386 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: the things on the Giants team, that's not even close 387 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: to my top concern. It's in fact, that might be 388 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: one of the better position groups. And Corey Coleman a 389 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: total wild card. I don't know. I mean in the 390 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 1: immediate actually was like, oh, this position group is you know, 391 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: falling apart. It's like, let's see if you get anything 392 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 1: from him. You it's a surprise, Shepherd. It's annoying because 393 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: he's a guy I've always thought put up way bigger 394 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: numbers than he has, and this is the year to 395 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: do it. And so it's a rough start from I 396 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: would say, we don't go to the fantasy Extravaganza for 397 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 1: a few weeks, but maybe a guy that's gonna now 398 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: drop in your drafts potentially you could get as a bargain. 399 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 1: Would they be talking about that on the fantasy Corner? Shepherd? 400 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: I thought you were going to make a joke and 401 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 1: say Eli Manning may be available. And I mean the corner. 402 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: The Corner is a a rough and tumble, violent environment. 403 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,239 Speaker 1: So you know you're getting words out as quick as 404 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: you can in the subject terror is unknown. I heard 405 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: some rumors actually that gentrification had hit the corner, that 406 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: people were like a little upset that there's like a 407 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: lot of like there's a lot of places that are 408 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: like barbershop slash beard slash. They serve a drink to 409 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: you at the same time, like it's I mean, it 410 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: was muggings and shootings before, you prefer that it was 411 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: like fourteen Starbucks, Right, it's just like a coffee shot, 412 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 1: just a little bit. Well, if that's the case, it 413 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 1: would be a different tone to the report. We can't 414 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: say for sure we've done going on at the Fantasy corner. 415 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,320 Speaker 1: You'll have to wait until about three or four weeks 416 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,199 Speaker 1: until the Fantasy Extra Extravaganza returns moving and by the way, 417 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 1: the Giants are working out wide receivers as you might 418 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: imagine too. Kelvin Benjamin reportedly one of them one of 419 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 1: Dave Gettleman's old draft picks. Oh that sounds like where 420 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: he's gonna end up. Okay. Report from Tyler Dunn, who 421 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 1: works for Bleacher Report these days, wrote about the forty Niners. 422 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: This one's interesting less the current scouting staff, according to Dunn, 423 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: is feeling increasingly marginalized by head coach Kyle Shannon Shanahan 424 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:50,199 Speaker 1: and his coaching crew, who are quote far far more 425 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 1: empowered on draft day. Um. This story comes at a 426 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: time when the Niners this is a big pivotal season 427 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 1: for them and their leadership and some of the stuff 428 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 1: that came out of this feature makes you think that 429 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: there's a significant unrest behind the scenes. Well maybe I 430 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 1: sort of read it as Tyler Dunn got one of 431 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: these disgruntled guys to talk, and then now it seems 432 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: like a soap opera when it's really There are tensions 433 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: in almost every front office between the scouting staff and 434 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: the coaching staff come draft time, and the coaches, especially 435 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: a guy like Kyle Shannon, who has more power than 436 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 1: most coaches because he had a six year contract, so 437 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 1: there's a lot more job security there. But it's basically 438 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: the coach has got who they wanted and we didn't 439 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,239 Speaker 1: get who we want. That happens in every front off. 440 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,479 Speaker 1: There was a little nugget they talked about, for instance, 441 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 1: like running back Joe Williams wasn't even on the Niners 442 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 1: draft board and the scouts in the room were ripping 443 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: him for quitting on his team in college, but Shanahan 444 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: loved him and the forty Niners got him in the 445 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 1: fourth round. The article also is littered with offensive players 446 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 1: praising Shanahan too high Heaven for how he diagnoses and 447 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: takes advantage of weaknesses on other team defenses and the 448 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: Joe Williams pick has a flip side. Shanahan did the 449 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: same thing with George Kittle, who turned out to be 450 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: it was mostly being receiver in history by time positive 451 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: art it was, it was largely positive. But it does 452 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: point out I think Shanahan has more power than most 453 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: head coaches, and I have said if they had to 454 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 1: choose between one of Lynch and Shanahan, if there were problems, 455 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: I think they would choose Shanahan. This supports that. But 456 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: the bigger, the bigger issue at the front office and 457 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 1: that staff is they didn't really consider taking Mahomes or Watson. 458 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: They did not think they needed a quarterback in that 459 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 1: in that draft, they took Solomon Thomas. I mean that's 460 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: not they already had Jimmy g No, they didn't have anyone. 461 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: They drafted C. J. Beathard instead, and they took Solomon 462 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 1: Thomas number three overall. And you know that's it's easy 463 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 1: to go back and play hindsight. I mean that helped 464 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: get Sashi Brown fire too. For that was that was 465 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 1: the Trabisky trade, right yeah, okay, um moving on in 466 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,719 Speaker 1: the news and by the way, program reminder coming up 467 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: next Rosenthal remembers an emotional return to the Ravens nest 468 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 1: only on the Around the NFL podcast. Did you brief 469 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: correct that this was going to be turned into such 470 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 1: a high octane thing or see, I was like, I've 471 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: never well, I've never been to Baltimore before, but we 472 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 1: have been to the Ravens. Uh. Steelers have signed coach 473 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,239 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin to a contract extension, not as beefy as 474 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: what Sean McVeigh got though. UH. This is a one 475 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: year extension. The number um will keep him employed with 476 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 1: the team or under a team control through the season. 477 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 1: Tom And of course now forty seven years old, hired 478 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: in two thousand seven, uh and had a Super Bowl 479 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 1: win in that first year. And it's interesting ten seasons since. Uh, 480 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: They've always been competitive, They've had great teams, They've had 481 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 1: good teams, never a bad team. Last year fell out 482 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: of the playoff picture and there was some unrest obviously 483 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 1: behind the scenes to the super stars of the team, 484 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: Levy On Belle and Antonio Brown, both at odds with 485 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 1: the organization and now play elsewhere. How much heat do 486 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: you put on the head coach for that? Apparently the 487 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 1: Steelers still have enough faith in Tomlin to give him 488 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 1: this vote of confidence and keep him from being a 489 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 1: lame duck, but not true overwhelming. It's like sort of 490 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: like the like only the Bengals allow a coach to 491 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: go into the final year of his contract essentially like 492 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 1: shout out to mc brown and Marvin Lewis last year, 493 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: but like so they almost have to do this. It's 494 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: it's like the cautious Okay, let's see, like the duck 495 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: that has like a wing that's a little wonky, it's 496 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: not a lame duck. But it's like, right, well, he 497 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 1: the Steelers have never fired a coach in the Super 498 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: Bowl era and Tomlin has the highest winning percentage in 499 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 1: franchise history. Twelve years without a losing record is no joke, 500 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: but it's pretty amazing. I see. Also, it's like, yeah, 501 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: who are you gonna get? That's better? Remember when you 502 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 1: have to identify that. But he's I think he's at 503 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: a in terms of his legacy, at an interesting places 504 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 1: his career because when I think of the Steelers, and 505 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: I think when a lot of Steelers fans think of 506 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: that team, it's the team issues that have happened. You've 507 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: lost star players and you continually dropped the ball in 508 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: the playoffs. You have to change that narrative. That Super 509 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: Bowl feels like a long time ago. Yeah, I agree. 510 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: You could look back in five years and say that 511 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 1: was the point at which he got it back on track, 512 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 1: or you can say, oh, that that's when the wheels 513 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: came off. So this is kind of the just go 514 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 1: on never mind a very marks right, it's an important year. 515 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 1: Movings and I are on the same page as always. 516 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 1: That's always love it kissing cousins. Moving on, Russell Okun 517 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: scary story. Uh, the Chargers don't have their starting left 518 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,640 Speaker 1: tackle UM a serious health issue issue. It was revealed 519 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 1: UH Russell Okung put out a UM statement on social 520 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: media that he suffered a pulmonary embolism due to blood 521 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 1: clots last month. Didn't just talk about mark blood clots. 522 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 1: Clint Bowling retired because of this. Uh Okung suffered the 523 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: health scare on June one and missed Man to Tory 524 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: minicamp practices. UH. He was placed on the n f 525 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: I list this week ahead of opening camp. There's no 526 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: timetable for Okung. This pretty big deal from team standpoint 527 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 1: left tackle. Obviously, Here's what o' kung said, um, while 528 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 1: near death type experiences are certainly a wake up call, 529 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: I'm feeling great physically. It's not an ankle or shoulder. 530 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 1: As soon as doctors clear me, my plans include blocking 531 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 1: number seventeens Blindside, that's Philip Rivers all the way to Miami, 532 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 1: where the Super Bowl will be played in February. I've 533 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: I've had two issues with blood clots and they woke 534 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 1: me up about the whole thing. And the first one 535 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 1: was my leg was massively swollen and I could barely 536 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 1: walk and Adam rank down and our news and was like, 537 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: why are you here? Go to the emergency room. And 538 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 1: that time I got it treated quickly and it was fine, 539 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: and they said it will never come back. The second 540 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 1: time was last September when we came back from London. 541 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: Because flights often if he's flying long distance, this is 542 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: a concern for him. You have to be on blood thinners. 543 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,159 Speaker 1: The second time, I had this pulmonary embolism thing, and 544 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: it was blackout pain. It was the most painful thing 545 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: I've ever experience, and you can barely breathe, and its 546 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 1: like doctors were like, because it sneaks up on you. 547 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: You could have died. It's very much a life for 548 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: death thing, and I'm concerned a little bit the same 549 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: with it had Clint Bowling stuck around. If you're on 550 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: blood dinners and if you get these linemen are constantly 551 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: dealing with blood loss and cuts that we don't even 552 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 1: know about. You can't stay in a game, I mean 553 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: you can you You have to go to the emergency 554 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 1: room right away. Typically this is a Super Bowl contender. 555 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 1: The crumbled down the stretch last year in large part 556 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: because of their offensive line, the right side of their 557 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: offensive line in particular, and surprise me that they did 558 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: nothing to upgrade that line in the off season. And 559 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: now you've got your left tackle a bit of a 560 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: question mark. Moving on, the Tennessee Tytoons did some business. 561 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: They agreed to terms with safety Kevin Byard on a 562 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: five year, seventy point five million dollar extension with thirty 563 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: one million and guarantees. Rap Sheet reported this. The team 564 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: that announced it that it each the multi year deal 565 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: with Bayard, who um it makes him the highest paid 566 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: safety in the league, an average annual value over fourteen million. 567 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: Passing Landon Collins of Washington and the Honey Badger in 568 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: Kansas City. So a guy entering his age twenty six 569 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: season season, Um, Greg, you are fairly high in Tennessee 570 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: as well, I believe, maybe not as high as West, 571 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: but you believe that this team can contend and keep 572 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: a big piece around. And Bayard's kind of like the 573 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: perfect Titan. He's the guy. It's like if anyone makes 574 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: a list of the best safeties and they forget to 575 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: mention Bayard, Titans are fans are just like, have you 576 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: ever heard of a guy named Kevin Byard? Really unless 577 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: you're Dion Sanderson. Really shows you're not paying attention. It's 578 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: kind of true though, because he's like the highest paid 579 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: player in his position, and how many people in America 580 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: know much about Kevin Byard? You know what? Shout out 581 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: to Kevin Byrd who has had a great, you know 582 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: start to his career. Well, he's one of the start 583 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: few star defensive backs that doesn't make the headlines weekly 584 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: by shouting at everyone, nonstopping getting into fight, fake feuds 585 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: with people. I thought their second things like that. I 586 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: thought they'd be much better last year. On paper, they 587 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: look really good in the secondary. That should be the 588 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: strength of their team. Kind of like the Patriots being 589 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: able to match up with anyone but Malcolm Butler was 590 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: a huge disappointment and they really weren't a good secondary 591 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: and that that's where they need to get better. Um 592 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: Dion by the way, and Will Brinson over at CBS 593 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: Every Buddy pointed it out on Twitter. It went from 594 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: over the course of one calendar year, it went from 595 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: Dion thinking that Kevin Byard was a fan on Twitter 596 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: to Kevin Byard being the highest paid safety in the 597 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: National Football League. Uh, look good, play good, play good, 598 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,719 Speaker 1: feel good, feel good, play good, play good, feel good. Uh, 599 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: that's pretty funny, is pretty fast. The good thing is, 600 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: if you're on Sanders, you kind of could just sweep 601 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: it all side and say, don't care. Did he even 602 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: respond to it? I don't know, so nobody even knows. 603 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: That's what you need to it. I believe he did. 604 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: Actually I think he on his show. I think it 605 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: came up. Did he eat he ate the poop? I 606 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 1: think he did. Yeah, I mean he's he wasn't. He 607 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: wasn't on as high horse about it from from whatever 608 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: calling hey, young buck, that's the one's on me, something 609 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: like that, you like. I mean, I don't know if 610 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: those were the words, it's an unfortunately phrase eat the poop. 611 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: Coming from Evans Silva's Twitter account. Deon's quote to Kevin Byard, 612 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: you stayed being a fan. I'll stay being the man. 613 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: Not only did he think he was a fan, he 614 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: capted by telling you that he is the man. The 615 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: man look good by young Buck. You stay a fan. 616 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: I mean you know this fan was you know, verified 617 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: on Twitter with one followers. That's and it's like some 618 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 1: people might be listening to this and being like, oh, 619 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: you guys shouldn't like talk about Dion like that he's 620 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: a colleague. He's like no, as a call lead to 621 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: us like a guy that works in I t s 622 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: a colleague with Bill Gates, or like the different way, 623 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: like the president with someone who works like like at 624 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,479 Speaker 1: the lowest levels of the Department of Transportation. Fourteen buildings 625 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: away all right, time for eight o'clock to light. Every 626 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:22,239 Speaker 1: first round pick is under contract. Uh. Nick Bosa got 627 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: a deal don with the Niners, and my Jets signed 628 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: number three overall pick, Quentin Williams. As usual as over 629 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: nonsense with guaranteed money in the first year that they 630 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 1: worked it out for everybody's in camp, first Bosa to 631 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: not hold out in family history. One for three. Let's 632 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:43,479 Speaker 1: feel good. Alan Hearns we talked about on Wednesday, released 633 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 1: by the Cowboys, suffered that terrible injury in the playoffs. 634 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: Not out of work, Long signs a one year deal 635 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: with the Miami Dolphins. I wonder if, I don't know what, 636 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: if he's gonna have a role in Miami, but maybe 637 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 1: the Giants would have been a potential better spot for him. 638 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: I don't know, but he signed a deal ready, so 639 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: I'm not sure he'd be ab looted to make any 640 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: team moving on. Oh, this is interesting. Speaking of injury news, 641 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: Andrew Luck held out of team drills as a precaution. 642 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: He's got a calf injury, and the team cited what 643 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,959 Speaker 1: happened to Kevin Durant in the NBA Finals wes uh 644 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: in the NBA playoffs where he suffered the calf injury 645 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: in the second round of the playoffs. They held him out, 646 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: brought it back, and he popped the achilles. So they 647 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: used that as a guy to take it easy with 648 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 1: their start time of the year, to be overly cautious 649 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,720 Speaker 1: so you can get away with it. And Tom Pellisaro 650 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: reported just minutes ago that he was back on the 651 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: field during seven and seven work today. Uh. Speaking of 652 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 1: seven on seven work, Emmanuel Sanders back to work. The 653 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 1: Broncos receiver participated in the drills on Wednesday, the first 654 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: team drills he's done since tearing as achilles last December. 655 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal, they need him. They don't have much, But 656 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 1: I'm concerned about their wide receivers. A little tell me 657 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: more and more thirty two coming off a torn achilles, 658 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: they almost made my finnest position grew list. A lot 659 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: of question marks with that wide receiver. Patriots have question 660 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 1: marks on their wide receiver. Cord Danny Etling has moved 661 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 1: to wide receiver. A seventh round pick in two thousand eighteen. 662 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: He was on the practice squad last year. Uh, former 663 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: quarterback turn wide receiver. You're excited, Greg, I am in 664 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: a missed opportunity here by the Rhoda World writer who 665 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 1: mentions Terrell Prior and someone else's recent quarterway. Hey, former 666 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: quarterback with the Patriots turning into wide receiver. A little 667 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: white guy I ever heard of, Julian Edelman. Lock it up, 668 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,320 Speaker 1: well that the thing is with he this guy, he 669 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,320 Speaker 1: is a totally different body. Everyone saying, no, it's the 670 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: next Julian Edelman. Well, uh, interesting development in Miami Dolphins 671 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: training camp, where Kalen Ballache Ballagelage was the starting running 672 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 1: back in team drills at Friday's practice. This is a 673 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 1: trend this week. New coach Brian Flora is getting tricky. 674 00:34:55,120 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 1: I loved his game against the Vikings last year. I 675 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 1: wish you, I wish you could expand that, but that's it. 676 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: Go watch this game against it. You know you want 677 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 1: to finish your thought. No, I think it's I if 678 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 1: I if Brian Flores is gonna run like run his 679 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 1: offense like the Patriots, You're gonna have four or five 680 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:18,839 Speaker 1: of them. They're never gonna be one. It's not one 681 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,800 Speaker 1: primary starter. They're all gonna play. Hank was talking Bellage 682 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: up last year. He's a big guys, but maybe he's 683 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,800 Speaker 1: never gonna be. It's gonna be even though we lost 684 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: our championship game. On Wednesday night, the Shield Reflection ceremony 685 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 1: celebration will be held at the old Zeuster's backyard. Everyone 686 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 1: here is invited, obviously, including handsome Hank, who has no 687 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 1: ties really to the Shield, but he's a friend of ours. 688 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: Finance here though, yes he's a financier, but he's in 689 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: England right now with his family. So this party one question, 690 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: would you deem it um safe for young children to 691 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 1: be during daylight hours? Yeah? Earlier on, yes, I have 692 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 1: some concerns, like just sort of knowing the Brassie's like 693 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 1: not a pro you know, I think anything any one 694 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 1: of these people after dark would be I mean, your 695 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 1: children will be there, so it has now they're gonna 696 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: be locked. They're gonna be locked in the room for 697 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 1: nine hours. I'm just gonna like, maybe they're not. My 698 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 1: children will be there, but we're gonna get a babysitter 699 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 1: to help out. That's a veteran move, by the way. 700 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 1: Outside two developments pulling into the NFL media compound today. 701 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 1: One the mural that we've talked about from time to 702 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 1: time on the show, featuring a host of all pros 703 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 1: in the NFL after about a two year run, is 704 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,439 Speaker 1: now being taken down. Rob Gronkowski is on the mural 705 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 1: with the Patriots. I hope it wasn't because of that 706 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 1: because he'll be back in a couple of months. But 707 00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,879 Speaker 1: also Antonio Brown with the Steelers obviously no longer there 708 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:05,720 Speaker 1: no longer relevant time wise, so that's been stripped. Also, Greg, 709 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,320 Speaker 1: you saw the same icon walking in I believe he was. 710 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 1: He had just exited a Mercedes coupe, uh walking with 711 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 1: him management member the Great Al Michael's I want to 712 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,799 Speaker 1: see what he's doing, what he's Maybe he's taping too, 713 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 1: menifow one hundred stuff, because that's what I've noticed. There's 714 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,840 Speaker 1: a lot of celebs plan to come through these doors 715 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,399 Speaker 1: or have been coming. I think they're taping some top 716 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,360 Speaker 1: secret NFL had a few of them coming on our 717 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 1: show potentially hopefully. And you know, you work in the NFL, 718 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: as we've been lucky enough to do for several years now, 719 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 1: you see a lot of stars up close and personal 720 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 1: in the sports world, and it loses a little bit 721 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,359 Speaker 1: of its luster over time. You don't get the same 722 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 1: type of feeling Alan Al I feel like he's an 723 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 1: uncle that I've never met and I've always admired. So 724 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 1: he's still kind of has the juice when you see 725 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,840 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, that's how Michael's the NFL one thing. 726 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 1: It's interesting. We had Keith Crossrow I think is his 727 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 1: name for menif Bill Films at our Talent summit. He 728 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 1: made it clear they're not looking to meet standards for 729 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,240 Speaker 1: this thing. They are trying to set standards for sports 730 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 1: and what goes into sports. List. I mean, when you 731 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 1: have a show that's hosted by Bill Belichick, Rich Eisen 732 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 1: and Collinsworth, what that's what a trio? Do you think 733 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:22,879 Speaker 1: Belichick gets paid for that? Oh? Yes, it's a good question. 734 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,319 Speaker 1: I mean too much that whatever it is, it's he likes, 735 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,879 Speaker 1: probably below what he's worth. Like it's it's probably below 736 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 1: what he's worth. But yes, because I mean I think 737 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,360 Speaker 1: if you're why wouldn't you be paid for that? It 738 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,800 Speaker 1: would be kind of salting to suggest that he'd do 739 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,360 Speaker 1: it for free. You have to fly out and you 740 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,840 Speaker 1: and provide what I'm sure company is a lot of 741 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,319 Speaker 1: hurting for money. He did a whole day's worth the show. 742 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 1: He has like six shows or something. You're almost certainly 743 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,239 Speaker 1: right by the way mark. But the way you said 744 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 1: it was such confidence, like, Oh he likes money, Well 745 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 1: he does. I mean, I think he's probably been paid 746 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 1: coach for a long long time. Typic clarify something for 747 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:02,400 Speaker 1: the the like, do I argue that he should be well, 748 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,839 Speaker 1: I think he like he doesn't talk about it much. 749 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 1: But I'm sure I'm excited about that because when he's done, 750 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 1: when he's done some media stuff, it's been good. I 751 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 1: need more money. This is not the top one players 752 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,839 Speaker 1: of two thousand nineteen. We're talking about the top one 753 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 1: all time. Very exciting, also very exciting. It's time Rosenthal 754 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:35,440 Speaker 1: remembers a return to the Ravens nest holy around the podcast. 755 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 1: All right, Greg, let's get to it. They take you 756 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 1: on a plane. We gotta make this expend before it 757 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,839 Speaker 1: worth it. I know what. They put you on a plane. 758 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 1: They sent you to Ravens camp. You did did you do? 759 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,799 Speaker 1: Did some my t c did? Uh? You know? It's 760 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 1: a very quiet town, Owings Mills. I like that. I 761 00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,919 Speaker 1: like seeing like a different little part of the world, 762 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 1: you know, shout out to the Peruvian Chicken Place and 763 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 1: open Owensville's big fan. Um. But my I don't know 764 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 1: my my takeaway. Should we just like go through it 765 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 1: and all about your trip? Because the Ravens, to me 766 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 1: and I think we're all on the same page with 767 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 1: this and Mark you see them as a threat to 768 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 1: the Browns potential rise to the top. They've seen north. 769 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 1: This is an interesting team. This is a team. I agree. 770 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 1: I think they're more interesting than any Ravens team I 771 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 1: can basically since they drafted Joe Flacco, because it's not 772 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,600 Speaker 1: just that, not just that they're they're going to be 773 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,920 Speaker 1: the most unique offense in the league to prepare for 774 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 1: and the toughest. But they have more turnover on defense 775 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,400 Speaker 1: than they've had since they won the Super Bowl in 776 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,359 Speaker 1: two thousand, So it's a huge turnover on both sides. 777 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 1: And the thing that strikes me between Mark what Mark 778 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 1: Ingram said and watching them and talking is just a 779 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 1: variety on offensive running place. And I know they did 780 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 1: a great job with that last year, but I think 781 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 1: they believe that with a full offseason. They did it 782 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 1: all on the fly. And Roman wasn't even the coordinator 783 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 1: last year. It was just kind of doing the running 784 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 1: game with him too able to install an entire offense 785 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 1: around Lamar Jackson and Mark Ingram and Gus Edwards in 786 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 1: that offensive line that the Ingram was saying, the amount 787 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 1: of running plays is just outrageous. The way they can 788 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 1: get too different running plays with a billion different formations, 789 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,439 Speaker 1: and watching practice you could see it. You never saw 790 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,840 Speaker 1: the same formation two times in a row. There's so 791 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,359 Speaker 1: many different combinations. They're gonna have two three tight ends 792 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 1: on the field every snap. And because Lamar Jackson is 793 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 1: such a unique running talent and those plays, I just 794 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,880 Speaker 1: think it's a great combination and it's just gonna be 795 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 1: weird and it's gonna be different and tough to prepare for. 796 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 1: It was a year ago when you know, it was 797 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:41,439 Speaker 1: question whether John Harbaugh would remain as coach if things 798 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,719 Speaker 1: didn't go well. And the one thing I love about them, 799 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,880 Speaker 1: and I love any football team that decides this is 800 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,400 Speaker 1: not working, We're gonna switch identities in the middle of 801 00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 1: the season and they became a completely different operation. Two questions, 802 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 1: do you does anything concern you about? I know it's 803 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 1: one game, but the Chargers playoff game and how they 804 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,400 Speaker 1: put that the hooks on the on the ravens, and 805 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,880 Speaker 1: what happens to this offense when they get into games 806 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,359 Speaker 1: where they have to throw the football, when you when 807 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 1: all these varieties of run plays don't work and you're 808 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 1: in the deep into the second quarter, and you know 809 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 1: it's not gonna get a lot better now, Because to me, 810 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 1: that's one game, one game in which they had about 811 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 1: the same amount of yards of the Chargers to two 812 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 1: offenses that couldn't do much of anything a game. By 813 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 1: the way that Lamar Jackson led too long touchdown drives 814 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:24,880 Speaker 1: at the end of the game. No one seems to 815 00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 1: give you any credit for had the ball with the 816 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,040 Speaker 1: chance to goin at the end of the game. I'm 817 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 1: concerned that he's inconsistent accuracy wise. And then another takeaway 818 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 1: watching practice, just like that wide receiver group is so 819 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,320 Speaker 1: wide open. You have Willie Snead and about seven or 820 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,320 Speaker 1: eight other guys depending on who you talk to. Different 821 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,360 Speaker 1: people expect guys to step up. You'd be great if 822 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,880 Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown steps right, and he's he's never practiced as 823 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 1: an NFL player yet. I mean, that's kind of a 824 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 1: lot to expect. So you have Jordan Laslie's, you know, 825 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 1: it's a lot of Seth Roberts taking first team snaps. 826 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 1: That's my Miles Boykin, who's you know, there's so much 827 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 1: Suster had a big long touchdown. They've been talking up 828 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,319 Speaker 1: Jalil Scott behind the scenes. It's kind of like one 829 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,600 Speaker 1: of those guys that they think is gonna make an impact. 830 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 1: We'll see, but they have so many different guys at 831 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 1: wide receiver and yet no, you have really no one 832 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 1: you can trust other in sneed. You got a good 833 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,680 Speaker 1: look at Lamar, Yeah, I mean it was one It's 834 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 1: one practice. He was pretty erratic. I mean that's the 835 00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,360 Speaker 1: thing watching him. He can make every throw, but but 836 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 1: he doesn't, but he misses some of the easier ones. 837 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:29,839 Speaker 1: I think he's really good in terms of his pocket movement. 838 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,480 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna have him, you know, throwing on 839 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 1: the run a lot. But you know r G three 840 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,120 Speaker 1: was more consistent, you know, for it was one day, 841 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,640 Speaker 1: but it was it was interesting to see in two 842 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:42,360 Speaker 1: thousand nineteen, you know, players walking off the field the 843 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 1: first day of training game was a great scene. The 844 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,319 Speaker 1: crowd was it was awesome there. I mean they were 845 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,719 Speaker 1: chanting during training camp, like you know, just in at 846 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:53,239 Speaker 1: random moments, except for one guy who was like heckling Lamar, 847 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,440 Speaker 1: Jack's why would you show up to training camp? He 848 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 1: was really hecky. But I heard of one guy goes 849 00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,160 Speaker 1: like who are you throwing it to Lamar? And he 850 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 1: like made one other comp I was like, what is 851 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 1: wrong with alcohol? No, that is it's really It's like 852 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 1: it's like I'm not surprised there's a guy like that. 853 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:13,359 Speaker 1: It was one guy, it was like nine. It wasn't 854 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:14,840 Speaker 1: a great I mean, I went. I went to a 855 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 1: couple of Jets training camps at Hofstra University in Long Island, 856 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,840 Speaker 1: and and and we've been to RAMS camp. It is 857 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 1: typically a love fest. It was the watch in terms 858 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 1: of like flapping and making little chance and stuff. They 859 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,719 Speaker 1: were the most active training camp crowd I've ever seen. 860 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,200 Speaker 1: But Lamar was pretty he was frustrated because he was 861 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,320 Speaker 1: having uh an up and down day. Ole there for 862 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,320 Speaker 1: a word from our sponsor coming up on the broadcast 863 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 1: the next episode with Ricky Hollywood and mm VP Shadowy 864 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:50,719 Speaker 1: League figure in My Boss, Sarah Parsons joins Erica a 865 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 1: little teaser Erica for the show. Yeah, it was really 866 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,640 Speaker 1: really great. She's the HB. I c here a NFL network, 867 00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,120 Speaker 1: So I can't say what that means. I know what 868 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:00,480 Speaker 1: you're saying, but I feel like I could get me 869 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,359 Speaker 1: in hot water with the HR department. She's the head 870 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,399 Speaker 1: broad in charge. It doesn't all have one to tend. 871 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,200 Speaker 1: How funny, what sort of doesn't a woman run NFL 872 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 1: on network? Though? So you know, technically I think you 873 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:15,160 Speaker 1: have to. She's the HB. I c of the old 874 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:20,279 Speaker 1: Zouser for surefenses. Yeah. She also said that that her 875 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:24,960 Speaker 1: favorite broadcast episode was Chris and Lakisha. Really, all of 876 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:26,560 Speaker 1: you guys have been on it, so I don't know 877 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:32,239 Speaker 1: what that means, but it means I'm changing departments. Um, 878 00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,960 Speaker 1: all right, there you go. Check it out the broadcast 879 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:44,319 Speaker 1: every week. Now back to an emotional return to the ven. 880 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:48,360 Speaker 1: It is a beautiful setting, Steve Weiste. It's got to 881 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 1: be one of the nicest, just training facilities, the building, everything, 882 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,360 Speaker 1: the big Raven you know, carved painted into the grass. 883 00:45:56,600 --> 00:46:00,440 Speaker 1: Like there's something about football in in July in August 884 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:05,320 Speaker 1: that just gets here. Grant Ravens romance is already annoying 885 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:09,560 Speaker 1: to me. They're more interesting when a team goes from uninteresting. 886 00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:14,640 Speaker 1: I mean this is going to until they're finally eliminated. 887 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,160 Speaker 1: We're going to be dealing with this weekes his teams. 888 00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:21,080 Speaker 1: That are his teams, the one team I would refer 889 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,920 Speaker 1: you to never. I've always been pretty anti Raven actually, 890 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:28,960 Speaker 1: because t is not great with the Browns rise or 891 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,920 Speaker 1: the timing is excellent. If you ask me, I love it. 892 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 1: It will be fun to watch because the Chargers were 893 00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,560 Speaker 1: your team last year. I mean, you're cheating on the 894 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,960 Speaker 1: paths with now clearly it's the team of Baltimore, which 895 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,279 Speaker 1: is the team that, true as a Patriots fan, has 896 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,080 Speaker 1: annoyed me the most over the years, has been the 897 00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,920 Speaker 1: Ravens for a couple of those performances. Here's the thing 898 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,879 Speaker 1: about the concept of an interesting football team. They only 899 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,360 Speaker 1: last as long as you went right. It only lasted 900 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,279 Speaker 1: as long as you know. They start the season with 901 00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,040 Speaker 1: the Cardinals and the Dolphins, which they have to be 902 00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,160 Speaker 1: thinking the scheduling guys for at because I think it 903 00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:04,560 Speaker 1: allows them to kind of ease into the season. People 904 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:08,359 Speaker 1: are people are worried about Lamar, but it's like, yes, 905 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:12,520 Speaker 1: he's not as good a passer as uh, they're consistent 906 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:13,920 Speaker 1: as he would like. He was a twenty one year 907 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,840 Speaker 1: old starter. And the difference is he's a better runner 908 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,319 Speaker 1: than any of the running quarterbacks before. So it's like, okay, 909 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,600 Speaker 1: running quarterbacks even worked well, they haven't been the same 910 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,480 Speaker 1: as Lamar Jackson, especially in this NFL. What you're saying, 911 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,440 Speaker 1: he's a better running quarterback than Michael Vick. I think 912 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,120 Speaker 1: he's the best one since Michael Vick and maybe better. 913 00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,400 Speaker 1: He was on pace to shatter the rushing rookie rushing record. 914 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:37,319 Speaker 1: They had the most successful yeah part, and I don't 915 00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,120 Speaker 1: think that makes him a better runner than Michael Vick. 916 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,239 Speaker 1: The way the ease that they picked up seventy eight 917 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,439 Speaker 1: yards from him, I mean they had the best eight 918 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,759 Speaker 1: games stretching forty years running. He turned Gus Edwards to 919 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,720 Speaker 1: a top five back. Gus Edwards outgained Zeko Elliot, Christian 920 00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:56,440 Speaker 1: McCaffrey after Lamar Jackson took over anything until that. It's 921 00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,920 Speaker 1: a great landing spot for mark Ingram and greg Or. 922 00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,120 Speaker 1: You know, I'm excited to why greg growing. But part 923 00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:02,960 Speaker 1: of it that I'm into them too is the defense. 924 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:06,560 Speaker 1: Like right now, Patrick on Watsu is the guy taking 925 00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:12,040 Speaker 1: over for ray Lewis and spot and like, and he 926 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:13,839 Speaker 1: to me is like a symbol of the team. I mean, 927 00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,080 Speaker 1: he's calling place. He never even played linebacker until he 928 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,880 Speaker 1: was a prose Now he's, you know, one of the 929 00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,479 Speaker 1: leaders of that group, and it's like a totally remade group. 930 00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,960 Speaker 1: That's kind of a mystery. Do you think they are 931 00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:26,759 Speaker 1: the favorite to win the North in your mind? Now? 932 00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,359 Speaker 1: I think the Steelers and the Browns, I would say, 933 00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,880 Speaker 1: are more of a favorite. But I think they're all. 934 00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,239 Speaker 1: It's not much separating those three any other takeaways from 935 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:39,360 Speaker 1: your time. My my strongest opinion is less about the 936 00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,360 Speaker 1: time there, although he had a great day, Mark Andrews, 937 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:45,800 Speaker 1: but more about watching the Lamar Jackson tape. That Mark Andrews, 938 00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:49,240 Speaker 1: to me, is like an unbelievable making the leap candidate 939 00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:52,759 Speaker 1: to be a pro bowler right now, to gain eight 940 00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,440 Speaker 1: hundred to a thousand yards and be a badass blocker, 941 00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,120 Speaker 1: and for him and Hayden Hurst and Nick Boyle to 942 00:48:58,239 --> 00:48:59,920 Speaker 1: cause a lot of problems. And I think that's kind 943 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,440 Speaker 1: the centerpiece of their often even though it's it's Lamar 944 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,360 Speaker 1: and the tight ends and Ingram and all the different 945 00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,239 Speaker 1: things you can do with those guys. And Andrews, I 946 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,120 Speaker 1: guess because he was a late, you know, third round pick, 947 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,239 Speaker 1: and he was on the Ravens didn't get a ton 948 00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,080 Speaker 1: of of But for a rookie tight end to look 949 00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,319 Speaker 1: that good, like I am expecting him to be a badass, Well, 950 00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,480 Speaker 1: he's in the right offense because Lamar Jackson throws almost 951 00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,920 Speaker 1: exclusively to his tight ends and rarely throws outside the 952 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:27,680 Speaker 1: numbers or rarely completes passes outside the numbers. Anyway, I 953 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:29,920 Speaker 1: do have a hot take on the Baltimore you know, 954 00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,960 Speaker 1: um on the on the sun in Baltimore, so you 955 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,000 Speaker 1: know this time you're you know, it's humid people, a 956 00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:39,640 Speaker 1: lot of a lot of complete that mid Atlantic sun. 957 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:41,759 Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't all the candle to the West 958 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,440 Speaker 1: Coast sun. I get. Give me eighty three on the 959 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:50,160 Speaker 1: East coast over seventy three or even seventy one in 960 00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:54,600 Speaker 1: terms of sunny strength on the West coast. It's powerful. 961 00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,200 Speaker 1: It's less powerful. I think that's science because it's like 962 00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,440 Speaker 1: farther away from the equator, you can you can stand 963 00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,080 Speaker 1: out in that East coast. Son. It's true. I was, 964 00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,880 Speaker 1: you know, I was in Massachusetts too when it was degrees. 965 00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:06,600 Speaker 1: You can be out in that sun for a little while. 966 00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:08,759 Speaker 1: You're out here and it's seventy two degrees and that thing, 967 00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:10,600 Speaker 1: that thing is gonna burn it. You reported that you 968 00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,439 Speaker 1: showed up there and you forgot all your underwear. Also, 969 00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:19,400 Speaker 1: well that's true. I had to you know, yeah, I 970 00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,839 Speaker 1: wore what I decided war. I had an extra pair 971 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,360 Speaker 1: of you know, athletic shorts, so I just used that 972 00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,920 Speaker 1: as my underwear and then you know, I hit the target. 973 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,600 Speaker 1: This is actually the second road trip this season that 974 00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,800 Speaker 1: that's target. I had a target, and uh, you know, 975 00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,680 Speaker 1: but what did you wear one day one? I just 976 00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:40,400 Speaker 1: went with like my running shorts underneath. Actual. I shared 977 00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:41,960 Speaker 1: this nugget before the show, but I feel like the 978 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,080 Speaker 1: audience would like it to note as well. There was 979 00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,080 Speaker 1: this guy that I went to high school with named Burger, 980 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,360 Speaker 1: who loved playing basketball, and uh, you know, he just 981 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,000 Speaker 1: was all about it that every day at school he 982 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:55,359 Speaker 1: wore jim shorts under his jeans in case a game 983 00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,280 Speaker 1: broke out. I've done that before, just in case. Sounds 984 00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:00,239 Speaker 1: like a man with a vibrant social life. It's a 985 00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,640 Speaker 1: lot of layers. Um last thought connected to the Ravens 986 00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:05,440 Speaker 1: because she wrote that making the lead piece as well. 987 00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:09,000 Speaker 1: Greg Let's do a little over under twenty nineteen. Lamar 988 00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:18,160 Speaker 1: Jackson over under three thousand passing yards overs un West 989 00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:22,279 Speaker 1: over under fourteen passing yards seven. He had more yards 990 00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,200 Speaker 1: for a tempt than Andrew luck by the way last year, 991 00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:28,560 Speaker 1: and Matthew Stafford Lamar Jackson. Where would but Lamar Jackson 992 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,279 Speaker 1: if you had a peg? I know yardage isn't the 993 00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:35,640 Speaker 1: indicator necessarily of greatness, but I think he's a pastor 994 00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:39,480 Speaker 1: passing yards somewhere in the undred to three thousand yard 995 00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,880 Speaker 1: ring fourteen and a half touchdown passes. I want to clarify, 996 00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:44,560 Speaker 1: I think he'll probably be injured at some point as 997 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:46,759 Speaker 1: much as he runs too, so that factors into my 998 00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:51,319 Speaker 1: statistical guess. All right, twelve and a half starts. Wow, 999 00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:57,240 Speaker 1: over over over on all these paces from last fourteen 1000 00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:01,160 Speaker 1: and a half touchdowns, yea over passing touchdowns. But you 1001 00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:03,080 Speaker 1: want a second year quarterback to be better than his 1002 00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,520 Speaker 1: previous pace. Right now, I'm saying that that these are 1003 00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:13,920 Speaker 1: pretty low bars. These are nine rushing yards over whoa Okay, okay, 1004 00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:19,880 Speaker 1: what do you think mark over? Because I'm gonna seven starts. 1005 00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,680 Speaker 1: So you see you see four thousand combined yards passing 1006 00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,080 Speaker 1: and rushing. You see a guy that has maybe thirty 1007 00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,719 Speaker 1: total touchdowns. You see a guy that's basically a young VIC. 1008 00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:32,799 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a young star. I mean 1009 00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,480 Speaker 1: he was. That's the thing that did. I don't know 1010 00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:37,360 Speaker 1: if it was that game or what. I feel like 1011 00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:41,160 Speaker 1: the bar or the like moved for him so much 1012 00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,560 Speaker 1: like change, like moving the field the first three quarters 1013 00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,760 Speaker 1: of that playoff loss. And I know he was picked 1014 00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:47,759 Speaker 1: up his numbers and made it look he was, but 1015 00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:51,240 Speaker 1: so is Marshall Yonda. Marshall Yonda was terrible. The offensive 1016 00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,160 Speaker 1: line was terrible, the running game was terrible. They were 1017 00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:58,920 Speaker 1: all terrible. The whole game counts too, Like to me, 1018 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:00,960 Speaker 1: the fact that he had made some badass throws in 1019 00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,040 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter like counts for something. And he was 1020 00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:06,480 Speaker 1: a rookie, so I'm not. And all these running plays 1021 00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,279 Speaker 1: you're talking about, that's fine. But the flip side of 1022 00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,040 Speaker 1: that is every defensive coordinator in the league has spent 1023 00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,680 Speaker 1: the off season trying to figure out this defense is 1024 00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:15,120 Speaker 1: not going to be as easy as but it's gonna 1025 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:18,839 Speaker 1: be a totally different offense, I think. And he's a game. 1026 00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:20,680 Speaker 1: Their owner even said that he's not going to run 1027 00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,400 Speaker 1: as much as he did last year. Um, all right, 1028 00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,719 Speaker 1: good stuff, Thank you, Greg. That was as emotional as 1029 00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:30,759 Speaker 1: I thought it would be. You know, it feels like 1030 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,000 Speaker 1: it really you didn't grow up in that area, but 1031 00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:38,799 Speaker 1: it was no I felt a connection. I move there 1032 00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,000 Speaker 1: some day, probably not, but I've never been there. And 1033 00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,560 Speaker 1: I'll tell you, like you know residents in there's some 1034 00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:49,200 Speaker 1: strange things going on at the residents and like spirits 1035 00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,960 Speaker 1: like just people that have clearly been living there for 1036 00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:56,200 Speaker 1: like months, it seems to have their dogs. They leave 1037 00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,759 Speaker 1: their dogs. No, but I just the whole vibe. It 1038 00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,239 Speaker 1: was quiet. I liked it. It was different if you're 1039 00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,000 Speaker 1: a long term resident at the Residents in and the 1040 00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:06,480 Speaker 1: dogs staying home during the day and I don't know 1041 00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,400 Speaker 1: where you're going. I think you want sideways at some 1042 00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,280 Speaker 1: point your life. I'm not saying you're a bad person 1043 00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,759 Speaker 1: or your life's bad or whatever. It's just maybe things 1044 00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,600 Speaker 1: haven't gone to plant they have. Let's settle down on 1045 00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:23,160 Speaker 1: dogs to begin with. Please you know you when you 1046 00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:26,240 Speaker 1: put the sign on your door that says do not disturb. 1047 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,359 Speaker 1: They have like very much many different options for those 1048 00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,800 Speaker 1: at the Residents, including one that's like pooch in the 1049 00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:35,759 Speaker 1: room or something like that, like leave it alone, my 1050 00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:48,960 Speaker 1: dogs in the room. You were you were, oh, look 1051 00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:55,759 Speaker 1: out that you would think at some point that you're 1052 00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,360 Speaker 1: staying in a better hotel, like if it's a hotel 1053 00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,839 Speaker 1: allows dogs, which is weird the way, because like, all right, 1054 00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:03,680 Speaker 1: you can bring your dog, and then the next person 1055 00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:07,839 Speaker 1: that goes in there, I don't need that, don't They 1056 00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:09,960 Speaker 1: try to put people with dogs into the rooms. That 1057 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:13,560 Speaker 1: have already had dogs in. Yeah, I think there's a 1058 00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,040 Speaker 1: convention and you're you gotta put everyone and everyone in 1059 00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,640 Speaker 1: your in a room with all this like golden shepherd 1060 00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:20,680 Speaker 1: hair on your pillow in the Sicilia. I don't stay 1061 00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:26,239 Speaker 1: at the shooting residents in with the dogs. Yeah. I 1062 00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,120 Speaker 1: stayed a kennel so I could be close to the 1063 00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,880 Speaker 1: team headquarters. I just wanted to be like two miles away. 1064 00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,279 Speaker 1: That was the choice. Get some points and travel with 1065 00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,680 Speaker 1: a dog. Where are you supposed to stay? Don't travel 1066 00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,359 Speaker 1: with the dog. Well, that's not the answer because it's 1067 00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,879 Speaker 1: not right and that for a dog to travel either, 1068 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:44,800 Speaker 1: a dog needs stability. It needs to have For me, no, 1069 00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,120 Speaker 1: I love dogs like. The reason I don't have a 1070 00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:48,960 Speaker 1: dog is I want a bigger yard to have a dog. 1071 00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:50,759 Speaker 1: I want to be home all the time. I want 1072 00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,759 Speaker 1: people home. A dog shouldn't be stuffed dog underneath. And 1073 00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,680 Speaker 1: you can travel with your dog, you can, but it 1074 00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:59,560 Speaker 1: doesn't mean you should. What if you're on a road 1075 00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,080 Speaker 1: trip driving for ten hours and you have the dog 1076 00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:05,360 Speaker 1: with you, that's a one off thing, that's fine, But 1077 00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:08,320 Speaker 1: if it's if you're continually traveling with a dog, I 1078 00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:10,720 Speaker 1: don't really count like the eight pound dogs. That's barely 1079 00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:12,400 Speaker 1: a dog to me. I mean, like, don't be a 1080 00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:15,080 Speaker 1: traveling salesman with a dog or a truck driver with 1081 00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,399 Speaker 1: a dog. I don't know, just because what most other 1082 00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,400 Speaker 1: things would be a one off. The dog is stable 1083 00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,799 Speaker 1: home where it lives most of its life, and it's 1084 00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,880 Speaker 1: not being put through airport security and things of that nature. 1085 00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:27,120 Speaker 1: If you're a truck driver, you gotta have a Bassett 1086 00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:30,239 Speaker 1: Hound in the front seat. I mean I wouldn't, but 1087 00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:34,960 Speaker 1: but others mind, Fred, wasn't that east bounding town. We'll 1088 00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:38,600 Speaker 1: be back next week with three more shows, so make 1089 00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:42,480 Speaker 1: sure you join us. And uh we are bat We're 1090 00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:45,080 Speaker 1: in full swing now. I have a little little tiny 1091 00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:49,200 Speaker 1: weekend opener to play for you. Okay, it's just a 1092 00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,239 Speaker 1: little vibe. We're getting into the weekend. Stop telling me 1093 00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:53,759 Speaker 1: that the seasons here and we can't have fund as 1094 00:56:53,840 --> 00:57:12,959 Speaker 1: human beans anymore. M hm, hut it up, turn it off. 1095 00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:19,120 Speaker 1: Yes there is. That's Homer Simpson's dad. I love it. 1096 00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:24,400 Speaker 1: The Shields Remembrance slash reflection ceremony zeus or manner on Saturday, 1097 00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,840 Speaker 1: um and we'll be back Monday, God willing. That's it. 1098 00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:33,000 Speaker 1: Dan handsOn signing off four Quiet Storm, the Mailman, the 1099 00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,240 Speaker 1: old Boss, Ricky Hollywood, behind the glass, Ricky, you coming, 1100 00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,800 Speaker 1: You promise, yes, I will be there. There will hell 1101 00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:42,000 Speaker 1: to pay, well, rain fire if you're not there till 1102 00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:42,400 Speaker 1: Monday