1 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, the podcast presented by BED three 2 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: sixty five. We are part of the Action Network and 3 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: live from our Tommy John Holmes Studios. I am Chad 4 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: Millman of the Action Network. This is our Sunday night episode. 5 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 1: We will review the five picks we put into the 6 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: Favorites contest, discuss why we left some out, preview the 7 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: early lines we already like for Week twelve. I'm joined 8 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: as always by my co host, my companion, my Campadre, 9 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: my BFF professional Better Simon Hunter Ellosa. 10 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 2: I'm in, Hello, Chad. Hey, I want to say sorry 11 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 2: about your Bears, but at least we had a winning week. 12 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: I have such little expectations when it comes to the 13 00:00:55,360 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: Bears that the fact they played great for the Bears 14 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 1: and still lost the way they did is entirely on 15 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: par and the fact that Matt Ibraflus considered himself to 16 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: be a coaching genius who decides, yeah, I've got a 17 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: time out, I've got thirty seconds left in the game. 18 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: I can do something like maybe center the ball or 19 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: even hand the ball off and gain five extra yards 20 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: so my kick can have a little bit more loft, 21 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 1: so it's not a line drive as a longer kick 22 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: from a guy who does not have the biggest leg 23 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: in the world. But whatever Matt Ebraflus does, Matt Ebraflus, 24 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: it's why he won't be the coach of the Bears, 25 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: why he shouldn't been in the coach of the Bears 26 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 1: this season. The good news for us, we did have 27 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: an early day or a winning day, and thanks to 28 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: the early games, I feel like this was the most 29 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: stress free contest Sunday we have had all season. We're 30 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: three and two. Only one of those games was a 31 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: blowout that was the Lions. Even the games that were 32 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: in question, though in the early minutes, until in the 33 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: early games, until the final minutes, felt like we had 34 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: an edge. I'd argue that even the last game of 35 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: the day, which was the Chiefs and the Bills, we 36 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 1: felt like we had an edge because who would you 37 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: rather have have the ball that Patrick mahomes in the 38 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 1: final sixty seconds of a game. We'll get to all 39 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: of that. 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I said, we 58 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 1: have to do it. It'll be good for the show. You 59 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: know what. The problem with the good for the show 60 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: logic is, which we have done often in our time together, Simon. 61 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: It's terrible for the record. Terrible for the record. The 62 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: Browns had more plays we had the Browns plus half 63 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: a point. They ended up his favorites close to two 64 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: more plays, more passing yards, more first downs. They also 65 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: had only three point three yards per carry, were sacked 66 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: three times, when three or thirteen on third downs. This 67 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: was supposed to be the game where they and the 68 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: ball down the Saints' throats and their defense was amazing, 69 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: and none of that happened. 70 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, you got Taysom Hill. I mean Taysom Hill. I 71 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 2: think I had like one hundred and thirty yards rushing, 72 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 2: three touchdowns. It's just one of those games. I never 73 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 2: trusted it, but you loved it. The number agreed with you, 74 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 2: I mean professionals bet at with you. And then it 75 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 2: felt like everybody was giving it out and it's like, 76 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: oh man, is anyone taking the Saints here? It was 77 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 2: just all Cleveland. So yeah, that was that was a miss. 78 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 2: But it's it's just it's a tough year. Like there's 79 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 2: other games like I wish you would have loved more, 80 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 2: but you know I got while you were comping this game, 81 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 2: it's like, let's fade this Saints team after emotional win, 82 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 2: and you know, they looked ready, they looked prepared for 83 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 2: this game. You can't stay the same for Cleveland. Cleveland 84 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 2: just looked really dysfunctional that whole game. And yeah, they 85 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 2: got out played by the Saints, so yeah tough. I mean, 86 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 2: like you just said, though, they got blown out. So 87 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 2: it was like I had that one on the TV screen. 88 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 2: I just switched it off after a little while because 89 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 2: it's like, this is not We're not coming back. We're 90 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 2: down fourteen. At one point, I was like, we're not 91 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 2: getting back from this. This is not not where you 92 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 2: want Jameis Winston to be leading you back. Even though 93 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 2: he actually didn't play that bad. I will say like 94 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 2: he had a pretty incredible throw in the corner of 95 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 2: the end zone. But Jamis the defense just no showed 96 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 2: absolutely no show by the defense of Cleveland. So they're 97 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 2: what two and eight, Now, that's a team that's totally 98 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 2: done with the season. 99 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean our biggest fear in this game was 100 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: Jamis actually didn't make any mistakes. The problem was their 101 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: defense didn't get any pressure. Like the premise for this 102 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: game was their defense would get pressure. Yeah, her defense 103 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 1: would cause Derek Carr to make the mistakes that he 104 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 1: always makes when he's under pressure. Because he had been 105 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: so good last week, we thought they were overvalued this 106 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 1: week by starting as a favorite. Derek Carr ended up 107 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: twenty one to twenty seven. Meanwhile, the Browns did not 108 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: stop the run. The Saints gained two hundred and ten 109 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: yards on the ground average seven yards per carry. Like pathetic, 110 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: pathetic display off of a bye against a team that 111 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: has no proven players on the edge offensively, But none 112 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: of that is as pathetic as Dustin Hopkins. Did you 113 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 1: see any of that? 114 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 2: I did now. I saw the game on when he 115 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 2: was missing all those field goals. 116 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 1: Dustin Hopkins missed multiple field goals in the first half, 117 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: including a thirty two yarder that was waved off because 118 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: of a New Orleans penalty. They gave the Browns a 119 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: first down on the restarted series. I'm in my head, 120 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, fuck, Jamies is gonna throw like a pick, 121 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: so there's gonna be no chance to even kick a 122 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: shorter field goal. So of course he almost throws a 123 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: pick in the red zone. The Browns end up having 124 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: to try another field goal. Well, this time Dustin Hopkins 125 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 1: missus from twenty seven all around. It was. It was 126 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: now almost from the get go. They went for two 127 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: when they were down seven to six, and they scored 128 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: like just all around a bad game for the Browns. 129 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're they're just a really bad team, bad team. 130 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 2: We tried getting cue of it. I thought we were smart, 131 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 2: should just listen to our instincts, where we knew that 132 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 2: at plus three it was okay to take it. It was 133 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 2: a good number. Once it had moved as much as 134 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 2: it did, we should have known just stay away, And 135 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 2: unfortunately we did not, even though like it was a 136 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 2: game that we had locked in that you know, if 137 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 2: we had updated our picks this morning, maybe would it 138 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 2: have taken out because we would have had a bad 139 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 2: number on it. But yeah, unfortunately that was a game 140 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 2: you loved, and I really didn't hate it enough to 141 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 2: take it out, just because what we talked about the 142 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 2: Saints team, it's like they're a bad team as well. 143 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 2: Both these teams are bad. One team is clearly worse 144 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 2: right now, and that's Cleveland. 145 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, and also I think we just at the end 146 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: of the day, I would have been okay taking it out. 147 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: We thought we had the best of the number, and 148 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: while it hasn't mattered. It's still a bad habit to 149 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: bet against it. So we left it. There were two 150 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: games I think we could have put in there. I've 151 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: got those marked for after we get through our five. 152 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: Baltimore at Pittsburgh. We had Pittsburgh three and a half. 153 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: Congrats on us for not overthinking. Congrats on us for 154 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: pulling the trigger on the most obvious bet on the board. 155 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: Going back to last Sunday night, all the Tomlin trends 156 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: as a dog, all the Tomlin trends as a dog 157 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: at home, all the trends of Harbaugh is a favorite, 158 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 1: Lamar is a favorite. The trends for the underdogs in 159 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: this series, all of them went the way they have 160 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: been going for the past twenty years. Hooray. 161 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, my best bad days. Like you just said, it's 162 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 2: the easy ones that are hard to you know, take. 163 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 2: Like I was with you earlier in the week, I 164 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 2: was like, is there something I'm missing because I didn't 165 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 2: get why it was still three and a half. Even today, 166 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 2: there was a bunch of books here in Jersey that 167 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 2: were still three and a half, and it just never 168 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 2: made sense. It's like, why aren't there professionals hammering this number. 169 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 2: Why is this not three or two and a half 170 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,199 Speaker 2: by kickoff? So that was the only thing that kind 171 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 2: of scared me because it felt like you just said, 172 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 2: way too easy. We know this matchup, we know Lamar 173 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 2: struggles against Pittsburgh whatever that weird voodoo is, and little 174 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 2: do we know it's their kicker that it cost it 175 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 2: for him. I mean, the Ravens, I don't know what 176 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 2: they're gonna do. Justin Tucker, I mean, we've all been 177 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,439 Speaker 2: thinking it that he's cooked. It's tough to deny it. 178 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 2: Like this guy can't hit him over fifty. Now he's 179 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 2: missing the ones under fifty, which he just never did. 180 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 2: It's tough when you're a kicker, you hit that wall 181 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, it's just different. And he 182 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 2: is a liability of this team right now. And we 183 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 2: got lucky for once with a kicker because, like you 184 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 2: just talked, with the kickers missing, at one point, we 185 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 2: had the Cleveland kicker miss and then they cut to 186 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 2: the Rams kicker missing, and then it cut to this 187 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 2: game with him missing. Justin Tucker, I'm like, okay, at 188 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 2: least we got one out of the three games here 189 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 2: going our way. But yeah, for once, Pittsburgh's kicker made 190 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 2: all his kicks for us, and we like we joke 191 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 2: that game is the easiest bet we make all year. 192 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 2: That matchup. It's you take whoever the dog is and 193 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 2: you bet the under, and both things were no sweats today. 194 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 2: The plus three and a half was never in doubt, 195 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 2: the under was never in doubt. So I wish they 196 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 2: could all be that easy. Sometimes the trends are just 197 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 2: that good chat you just can't overthink and just have 198 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 2: to bet these smart trends. 199 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: Well, the Steelers did make us a little bit anxious, 200 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 1: I will say, because they could not score touchdowns and 201 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: against Lamar Jackson, against the Ravens, as good as the 202 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: Steelers defense is, and it was it was lights out today. 203 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: If you're not scoring touchdowns and you're getting the red 204 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: zone and you're only kicking field goals, you do leave 205 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: yourself open to being vulnerable to losing your bet and 206 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: losing that game, right, And there was a period in 207 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:58,199 Speaker 1: the first half it felt like the Ravens could dominate 208 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: this game if they were able to get one or 209 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: two touchdowns in the first half, like convert one of those, 210 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: and they did towards the end of the first half, 211 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: but it felt like this whole game in the first 212 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: half was played between the forties right and just a 213 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: field goal kicking contest, and the Steelers kept getting it. 214 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: Did you ever feel nervous about this at all? Because 215 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: I felt a little bit anxious about it when we 216 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: got into the second half and the Steelers like could 217 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: not get into the end zone. 218 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 2: No, these games are just really stupid. I mean, it's 219 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 2: just that all the turnovers they had as well Pittsburgh 220 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 2: and like you just said, they won the game, and 221 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 2: the Ravens scored two touchdowns, they scored zero touchdowns. Like 222 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 2: it's just that's how these games are. So it's like, 223 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 2: I don't know, I know people hate these teven games. 224 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 2: These are literally my favorite football games to watch. It's 225 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 2: like I love just ugly underdog, low scoring games with 226 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 2: the under and it's just like that's just my favorite 227 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 2: type of football. I know it's sickening for most people. 228 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 2: As a better it's just so much fun to watch 229 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 2: because every point matters so much. So I maybe you're right, 230 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 2: maybe the only part of me that really thought anxious 231 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 2: with the very end win. You know they're going for 232 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 2: two and it's just like Okay, could we lose this, 233 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 2: because then go to overtime and somehow Lamar gets the 234 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 2: six and we do lose. But honestly, the whole game 235 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 2: never really worried about it. I mean, I think we 236 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 2: started the game out the gates of what up six nothing, 237 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 2: The Ravens scored seven to six. Then at half it's 238 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 2: it's nine to seven. It's like, okay, as long as 239 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 2: they keep these this weird type of score, we're going 240 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 2: to cover this three and a half for three, Like 241 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 2: that's that's what we needed, is just a weird number 242 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 2: to land on it. 243 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: At fifteen ten, the Steelers were near the Ravens goal line. 244 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson got pressured. He threw the ball out of 245 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: bounds and out of the end zone, and my son, 246 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: who was sitting next to me, said, I feel like 247 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: he is in this game. I feel like he is 248 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: constantly throwing the ball away, and in my I said 249 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: out loud, that's what we like about him right now, 250 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: as opposed to someone like justin Fields. He's he's not 251 00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:02,319 Speaker 1: trying to reach very next play touchdown or interception in 252 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: the back of the end zone and what could have 253 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 1: been an eighteen to ten lead turns into a Ravens 254 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 1: with the ball. Unfortunately, like it played out our way 255 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: and everything you said, here's the most important thing. Ravens 256 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 1: are now seven and four, Steelers are eight and two. 257 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: The Ravens have looked terrible at times offensively, especially against 258 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: good teams. So what do we take away from this 259 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: about the Ravens right now? 260 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 2: I mean, nothing's really changed. I thought they Honestly, I thought, okay, 261 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 2: those of I'll figure it out and win this division. 262 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 2: But yeah, Pittsburgh now just being the Commanders and then 263 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 2: turn around and winning this game. It's like, how do 264 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 2: we not give them their flowers and take them more serious? 265 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, it's their their division now. But the 266 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 2: Ravens I was just already out on like I had 267 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 2: zero futures on them for the super Bowl, just because 268 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 2: we talk I thought last year was the peak, it 269 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 2: was the perfect year. This year there's gonna be too 270 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 2: many holes when you're paying Lamar while you're paying them, 271 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 2: like we're like we even talked to the Chiefs. Yet 272 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 2: you're seeing that with the Chiefs, right, they can't afford 273 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,599 Speaker 2: any offensive lineman because they're giving so much money to 274 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 2: Mahomes and a couple other guys. So it's the same 275 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 2: with the Ravens. It's like, yeah, big deal that they 276 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 2: got Derek. 277 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: Uh. 278 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 2: You know, Henry, he's been a game changer for them, 279 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 2: but they allocated money there and they've gone cheap in 280 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 2: other places, and you've kind of seen it this year. 281 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 2: It's just it's all on the mark. When he's not 282 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 2: on this one hundred percent a game, they're they're they're 283 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 2: a team you can beat, and you're you're right, Like 284 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 2: Russell Wilson, if he was a little better in this game, 285 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 2: the pittsfordh Steers probably would have rolled them like they 286 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 2: were moving the ball up and down the field, and 287 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 2: they just couldn't finish those drives. I will say, I 288 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 2: just remember there's one moment I was freaked out. It 289 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 2: was with Justin Fields. He could have got an easy 290 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 2: first down. He slid early to get the second and 291 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 2: two or second and one. Yeah, get this guy out here. 292 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 2: His field awareness is just zero. 293 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: He slid a yard early. 294 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 295 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: So instead of going first down and basically ending the game, 296 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: it kept the drive. It allowed the Steelers to call 297 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: time or the Ravens called time out. That was ridiculous. 298 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 2: A man, I don't care how the other thirty one 299 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 2: to doing it. 300 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: Rams at New England. We bet the Rams four and 301 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: a half. We liked them all week, but when we 302 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: discussed it this morning, this was the game you were 303 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: most worried about. 304 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 2: Tell me why just for what I bet personally? Because 305 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 2: I told you I didn't really get the movement like 306 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 2: I was. I told you I was up all night 307 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 2: and they were down to three and a half and 308 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 2: I was betting it, but I was just like, what 309 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 2: is happening? Who is hitting this other side so heavy? 310 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 2: And I'm not gonna lie. I really did think we 311 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 2: were gonna get drake me at the end of that game. 312 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 2: It was just like they somehow didn't get that first 313 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 2: down the Rams when they could have done whatever they wanted. 314 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 2: It seems like every player they wanted to make is 315 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 2: easy with Cooper, Cup or Puka, but Stafford's like, now 316 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 2: let me throw it to my third tight end or 317 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 2: some random other guy on the outside. It's like, just 318 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 2: go to your best guys in these tight moments, Stafford, 319 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 2: come on, I don't care if they're covered. But yeah, 320 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 2: they punted up six. I thought, oh my god, I 321 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 2: can't believe this is gonna happen just because I mean, 322 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 2: they dominated that game, the Rams. They were clearly the 323 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 2: better side. But Drake May's got some moxie. That team. 324 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 2: They don't quit. They let him hang around. I think 325 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 2: at one point they were up I don't know if 326 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 2: we were up fourteen or maybe it was fifteen, a 327 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 2: random number. And you know, he comes down and gets 328 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 2: that touchdown and now we're only up six, and it's like, okay, 329 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 2: I thought the number should be six. Hopefully my model 330 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 2: is right and the Land's right on six, because that's 331 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 2: the whole reason we took this number, is like it's 332 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 2: under six. We think we're getting a good number here, 333 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 2: and the public was overacting that Patriots team, and they did. 334 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 2: That's what ended up being the number moved too much. 335 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 2: We got a good number. LANDA ray Ward should have 336 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 2: been Yeah, that's that was a nice cover. That was 337 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 2: a nice game. We talked about predicted hung in there, 338 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 2: kept it in there, and it was a good cover. 339 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: That was a game where it just felt like the 340 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: Rams were playing with their food. Yeah, you know like 341 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: that they were. They were so much better than the Patriots, 342 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: and in the first quarter, like the Patriots were making plays, 343 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: they were getting momentum, they were building confidence, and then 344 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: from the second quarter through the third quarter, the Rams 345 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: basically went on a twenty eight to three run and 346 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: they were up twenty eight to ten. The Patriots score 347 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: a touchdown at the end of the third twenty eight 348 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: seventeen sixteen or something like that. Then they get that 349 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:32,959 Speaker 1: last touchdown. I was definitely thinking we're fucked because they 350 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: went back to sort of playing with their food in 351 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: the same way we hit the Saints last week at 352 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: the exact right spot. I feel like we got the 353 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: Rams this week in the exact right spot. So the 354 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: challenge will be looking ahead. They've got the Eagles. It's 355 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 1: a primetime game, their dogs at home against the Eagles. 356 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: I'm going to be excited to talk about that game 357 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: with you when we get to the week twelve lines. 358 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 1: Jacksonville Detroit. This was our Big Balls bet of the week, 359 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: first time we've ever done a double digit favorite for 360 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: Big Balls Bet of the Week. We had Detroit minus 361 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 1: twelve and a half. As they say in Hollywood, no else. 362 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 2: Hello Detroit. 363 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 1: No. 364 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 2: That was the dream. That was a game we loved. 365 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 2: We both bet a bunch on and even if you're 366 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 2: betting a bad number, Like I even bet a couple 367 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,239 Speaker 2: thirteen and a halfs and it's like, I should just 368 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,239 Speaker 2: wait and maybe it goes back to thirteen. But I 369 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 2: was just I just felt like it was only going 370 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 2: to go up to fourteen by kickoff, but professionals held 371 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 2: that line, like that number really did budge back down 372 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 2: from fourteen to thirteen and a half. And you know, 373 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 2: we obviously had a good number in the contest. I 374 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 2: think we've bad twelve and a half, But wouldn't it mattered, 375 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 2: Like we even joked about, like these ermers really haven't 376 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,199 Speaker 2: mattered for us so much in the contest. I mean, 377 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 2: two and a half's havelf, but other numbers, for the 378 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 2: most part, it's not really been landing on those numbers 379 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,119 Speaker 2: as much. So that was the game where we were 380 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 2: final leaving it in even at a bad number. Honestly, 381 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 2: even at fourteen and a half, it'd have been like, 382 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 2: I don't know, I'll keep it in just because I 383 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 2: rather have that in than the Colts and end up 384 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 2: being the Colts being a great bet. So yeah, that 385 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 2: was a great bet. What was it twenty eight to 386 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 2: three to start the game. That's what you need when 387 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 2: you bet these huge favorites, It's like you just need 388 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,239 Speaker 2: a roll to completely take the other team's will. And 389 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 2: that's what happened. I mean, the Jaguars quit instantly like 390 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 2: I think they had. They started the game with three 391 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 2: straight rushing touchdowns, and you know, it just looked like 392 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 2: the Jaguars were playing in mud. And this Detroit team 393 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 2: is just not like they're just incredibly talented. I saw 394 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 2: a lot of books move them to be the odds 395 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 2: on favorite right now for the Super Bowl. Makes sense, 396 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 2: like if they get home field and they're running like this, 397 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 2: you don't need Aiden Hutchinson if you're putting up you know, 398 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 2: thirty five forty points on any giving team, any given night. 399 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 2: So yeah, we know the deal. When this Detroit team 400 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 2: plays bad team Chad, we can't overreact and get word, 401 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 2: I've been these big numbers we just got taken. I 402 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 2: think now Evan could correct me if I'm wrong. I 403 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 2: believe double did your favorites now five and zero against 404 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 2: the spread this season. 405 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 1: So I looked at this game and to me, it 406 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: was the get Jared Goff the MVP game. Like Dan 407 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: Campbell saw what happened last week with it, you know, 408 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 1: when they when they came back and with the five 409 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: picks this week, four hundred and twelve yards. I think 410 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: he was twenty four of twenty nine four touchdowns. They 411 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: kept the pedal to the medal the entire time. It's 412 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: almost like somebody was in Ben Johnson and Dan Campbell's 413 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:46,479 Speaker 1: ear telling them, Okay Lamar is now completing fewer than 414 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 1: fifty percent of his passes. Of course, this was all 415 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: before the Bills played the Chiefs, which we'll get to 416 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: because that was our final game of the day. So 417 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: we went into the last game three and one on 418 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: the day, Patrick Mahomes as a dog and dude, twelve 419 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: minutes left, they're down twenty three fourteen. I say to myself, 420 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: the Bills are dominating this game, like time the possession 421 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Really they had two good drives, but the 422 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: Bills were playing better than the Chiefs were. And I 423 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: thought to myself, this is why we bet on Patrick Mahomes, 424 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: because in this moment, that's who you want to have 425 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: the ball. And I believe that right until the last 426 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: play of the game. Didn't work out for us, but 427 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 1: I never regretted betting on Patrick Mahomes. 428 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 2: The Bills. 429 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: Make me want something, throw your hands something, throw your 430 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 1: hand back to come. 431 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 2: Now the Bills. I'm making it happen now. Yeah, it 432 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 2: was a great run. It hurts, but you know I 433 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 2: make that bet every time, and we saw how it 434 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 2: could have worked out for us. It's pretty simple. It 435 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 2: was fourth and two. Josh Allen's up two. If he 436 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 2: gets stuff there, who knows, right, the Mahomes either drives 437 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 2: the field scores or he gets stuffed and that game's over. 438 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 2: We cover the two and a half. I hit my 439 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 2: under bet. It would have been really nice. Josh Allen 440 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 2: had a big moment right MVP moment he stepped up 441 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 2: the Chiefs for some reason didn't run a QB spine on, 442 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 2: which was just to me bizarre because it's like Matt 443 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 2: Mitchell said it. It just felt like it was a momentere 444 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 2: Josh Allen's like, this is going to be in my hands, 445 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 2: Like I'm not gonna let someone take this moment from me. 446 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 2: I think he is now four and one. Maybe I 447 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 2: could be wrong. Four and one straight up against Mahomes 448 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 2: in the regular season, which is pretty insane. Yeah, but yeah, 449 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 2: pretty big time play by Josh Allen and Yeah, that 450 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 2: was a really fun playoff game that came down to 451 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 2: two or three plays that didn't go our way. And yeah, 452 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 2: the worst part of it's the teasers didn't cover either 453 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 2: for Mahomes, which head into that spot. I think Evan 454 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 2: said he was fourteen to zero as an underdog on teasers. 455 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 2: Pretty brutal. That didn't cover. So yeah, I was hoping 456 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 2: we'd get the back door Chad get a big scramble 457 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 2: I think for thirty yards. They caught it back on 458 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 2: a hold, made it fourth and thirteen again, and it's like, Okay, 459 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 2: we're dead. We're not getting this back doors. So yeah, 460 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 2: tough loss, but yeah, just another day betting these trends. 461 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 2: It's tough when they don't work out for you. 462 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 1: MVP adds just before the afternoon games, after the Jared Goff. 463 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 1: After Jared Goff threw for four hundred yards, he had 464 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: been twenty to one during the week. He had dropped 465 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 1: because of the five pick game before the Chiefs and 466 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 1: Bill's played. It was Lamar plus one thirty, it was 467 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 1: Josh Allen plus two fifty and Jared Goff plus six hundred, 468 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: so he jumped quite a bit. In the MVP tallies. 469 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: We're waiting on updated MVP adds. Post this Josh Allen game, 470 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: I amadine, and he'll now be the odds on favorite 471 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: to win the MVP, given that he just beat Patrick 472 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: Mahomes did it in spectacular fashion. Alert here for. 473 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 2: Josh Allen looking for hell. 474 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 1: He's alon. 475 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 2: No, he's a flier. 476 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 3: He's a football player through and through him here, but 477 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 3: there's nothing there. 478 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 1: He goes, shan't try an excuse me touchdown? 479 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 2: How many quarterbacks have you ever seen hurdle anyone? Goodness, 480 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 2: there's no fears, no way. He was being. 481 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: Pizza. 482 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 2: He's still going, Oh my god. The demands to do 483 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 2: something about this album reachous man making louder and louder. 484 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: He was Mahomesyan. He made the play that he had 485 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 1: to make. He hit the guys that he had to hit, 486 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 1: converted hard third downs, scored the game winning touchdown, you know, 487 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: converted the fourth down. Kudos Josh Allen, Kudos Buffalo Bills. 488 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,360 Speaker 1: Matt Mitchell maybe buying ice cream for his entire neighborhood 489 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 1: tonight because he's so excited. At the very least he 490 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: gets to eat wings with gloves because all of his 491 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: fears are over now. 492 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 3: No chad buying ice cream for everyone in my neighborhood 493 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 3: is reserved for big playoff victories, regular season wins like this. 494 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 3: I celebrate the old fashioned way as a Bills fan, 495 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 3: which is breaking all the side mirrors off the cars 496 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 3: in my neighborhood. 497 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 2: Go Bills. 498 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 1: All right, here's the regrets. I don't think we seriously 499 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:51,199 Speaker 1: discussed the Colts enough. We had the Colts in the 500 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: underdog round robin along with Atlanta, Kansas City, and Tennessee. 501 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: None of them won, but the Colts and the Steelers did. 502 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: We never had a combo about them, and I felt 503 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: like we actually liked them more after Anthony Richardson was 504 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: named the starter. Why didn't? Why do we miss that one? 505 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 2: I mean I loved him, It just it wasn't on 506 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 2: your radar. I only have so many winners in me 507 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 2: that should have been you that instead of Cleveland, you 508 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 2: should have the Colts. I got nothing to do. 509 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: I love the Colts all week. 510 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 2: I was never really on them. I bet them because 511 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 2: I liked the number, but it was like I was 512 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 2: never in love with it. You liked them more than me. 513 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 2: So I wish I could stay and be like I 514 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 2: knew the Colts was gonna be a great but I 515 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 2: honestly it wasn't on my radar. I just I didn't 516 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 2: know what Anthony Richards was going to react. He obtually 517 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 2: came out had an incredible game. I think at one 518 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 2: point he was like seven and nine passing like totally. 519 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 1: Yeah. He ended a game like twenty thirty for two 520 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,439 Speaker 1: seventy five or something like that. Yeah, and he converted 521 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: some fantastic third downs like that was a really grown 522 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: up football game for him. 523 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. So again it was it was a good bet. 524 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 2: I wish we had made it, but yeah, I was 525 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 2: never it was never one of my bigger bets this week. 526 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:57,719 Speaker 2: I never would have been in one of Like I 527 00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 2: was never going to force in. So yeah, it sucks 528 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 2: where you definitely liked it, but it was never one 529 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 2: year like, oh, we have to get this one and 530 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 2: we never really talked about it. Now. 531 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 1: Broncos was the other one. I felt like we had 532 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: done a full one to eighty on that one, and 533 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,239 Speaker 1: we were all over Atlanta early in the week and 534 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,199 Speaker 1: by the end of the week we really liked Denver. 535 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. Chris Raybun helps though with that. Yeah, although like 536 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 2: when he starts bringing down all those stats, We're like, shit, 537 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 2: you're right. Like this Atlanta team, their offense still struggle 538 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 2: against good defense and Denver we've both talked about Denver 539 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 2: is a good defense. But bow Knicks man like that, 540 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 2: that was really a bon Knicks game. We talked about 541 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 2: it like I bet him Rookie of the Year just 542 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 2: because it's like, yeah, it feels like a two man 543 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 2: race between him and Jane Daniels. That might have been 544 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 2: his best game of the season. I mean, he played 545 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 2: incredible in that matchup. So yeah, the bow Knick stock 546 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 2: keeps going up every week. 547 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: It really does. And look, Jade Daniels is struggling. 548 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Jane Daniels is injured. That's why. 549 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean he struggled against the Eagles obviously, and 550 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: they got to him quite a bit. On Thursday night. 551 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,479 Speaker 1: I was at that game. Let me just say this. 552 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: I know it's sacriligious to say these things, but after 553 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: a week of going to Knicks, Bulls at MSG, Bulls 554 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 1: win with three free throws with three seconds left, and 555 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 1: then Jalen Brunson has a shot go in and out. 556 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: Then I go the next night with my kid to 557 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 1: Eagles commanders at the link and Saquon goes off in 558 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 1: the second half. It's great. Eagles dominate. First half was 559 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: so freaking boring, and these games take so long, and 560 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: it's like every five seconds there's a minute to two 561 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: minute break. And then we went. We visited the University 562 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: of Maryland, which was amazing, great campus, really impressive school. 563 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: Went to the Maryland Marquette game and that game came 564 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: down to the final seconds. Maryland was down two with 565 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: fifteen seconds left left. A kid was on the line 566 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: to shoot two for Maryland missed them. Both game ends. 567 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: But like the in stadium, in game live experience for 568 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: basketball is just so much better in the NFL. It 569 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: just is. 570 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, it all depends. I mean, you have a different 571 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 2: way watching football. It all depends the type of year 572 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 2: you are. I think you just like action, you like points, 573 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 2: which is nothing wrong with. Go watch NBA or go 574 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 2: watch NHL. That's for you. For someone like me, I 575 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 2: like that game. I know people didn't love if I loved. 576 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 2: That was an NFC East Classic. It was ugly. Every 577 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 2: catch mattered. I mean, guys were dropping the ball all 578 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 2: over the field because it's just so intense everyone's so tight. 579 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 2: I love that because you can feel it in the stadium. 580 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 2: So I get what you're saying. It's just a different 581 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 2: type of thing where it's like, yeah, do we both 582 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 2: want to see a fifty to forty five game? Sure, 583 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 2: I would have loved that and if the NFL game 584 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 2: was going crazy, but instead we got a what twenty 585 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 2: to twelve type of game? And that's just that's just 586 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 2: how it is sometimes. 587 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: First of all, don't fucking insult me with I want points. 588 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: I grew up in Chicago. 589 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 2: You sound like a TikToker, dude. You sound like a 590 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 2: little little gen zer right now. 591 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: Going to Bears games when it's four below and rooting 592 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: for the game to be three nothing Bears, because all 593 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: I want to do is sorry, you're soft. 594 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 2: Now, that was a lot. 595 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: I'm definitely soft. I definitely thought after the game, I 596 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: don't really need to go to a game if it's 597 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: less than forty degrees. Number one, number two, it's it's 598 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: not the intensity, it's the interruptions and the commercial breaks 599 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: and the amount of time that is spent just sitting 600 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: there waiting for the next thing to happen. It could 601 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: be attention deficit. It could totally be about intention span, 602 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: but I'm just saying, as a product, the experience for 603 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: basketball was much better in game than the experience for football. 604 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: So I'm saying, thank god, we don't have to put 605 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: the Steelers in the Browns in the contest this week. 606 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: Looking ahead to Week twelve, the lines that we are 607 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: looking at Rounds are four point dogs at home. I 608 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: hate that I feel this way, you know, but I'm 609 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: glad we're not gonna have to put it in the contest. 610 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if you have an early lean on 611 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: that game. 612 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're supposed to about the Browns. You're right. I 613 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 2: don't want to do anything with that game. I want 614 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 2: to early lean Pittsburgh. 615 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: Yep, there is a game. However, a team had to 616 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 1: buy this week. A team looked pretty good two weeks ago. 617 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: Last week, Carolina Panthers were eleven and a half point 618 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: underdogs against Kansa Cy Chiefs. 619 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 2: Are you doing it? 620 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 1: I'm not saying we're doing it like I think it 621 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: merits attention. I'm not going to bet it right now, 622 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: but I do think it merits some attention to think about, especially, 623 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 1: you know. Now. 624 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 2: I agree that we're supposed to bet that we always 625 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 2: say we like to fade mahomes. But yeah, I wonder 626 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 2: if the our listeners will let us bet it. But 627 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 2: that's definitely a game that jumped out to me that 628 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 2: I want to bet. We just talked about it. Favorites 629 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 2: right now, double digits or five? And oh, I know 630 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 2: you you always talk about teams things being overdue. Isn't 631 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 2: a big dog overdue to win this year or cover 632 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 2: at least a big double digit spread? So yeah, that 633 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 2: numbers two big. I'll take it early here with you. 634 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 2: But I don't know if listeners will let us put 635 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 2: that one in. But I'm with you. I definitely love that. 636 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: I can't see that one making it into the contest. 637 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: There are loads of home dogs this week. I'm gonna 638 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: read a list of the home dogs. There are seven. 639 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 1: I want you to tell me which ones you pinpointed it, 640 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: because I got a couple I want to see if 641 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: we match. The Bears are five point dogs at home 642 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: against Minnesota. These are all home dogs that I'm reading 643 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 1: off Indy seven points against Detroit Giants, three against Tampa Vegas, 644 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: three against Denver Green Bay, one against San Francisco Rams, 645 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: two and a half at versus Philly Chargers plus three 646 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: versus Baltimore. 647 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean jumped that right away. I wanted to 648 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 2: grab the Lions at minus seven. That's already up to 649 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 2: minus eight. Unfortunately. I just I felt like a little 650 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 2: too low to me for that cold steam, but not 651 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 2: that it's up to eight. It's like, I don't need 652 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 2: to rush and take that one. If you're still able 653 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 2: to get seven to seven and a half, I throw 654 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 2: a little bit on that, just because it seems like 655 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 2: it's gonna keep going up on this cold steam. Patriots? 656 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 2: Are we a suckers? Are we a sucker for trying 657 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 2: to take the patris a plus seven and a half? 658 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 2: That feels like it's a lot of points for that matchup. 659 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: I forgot who they're playing. 660 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 2: Hold on, they're playing Miami. 661 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was really focused on home dogs. 662 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know they're on the road. I'm just taking 663 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 2: that one right now. They're just another big, big dog 664 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 2: that popped out to me. That just feels like that 665 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 2: number will come down just because you know, I know Miami. 666 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 2: They won what thirty one nineteen today, But. 667 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: That was a a scoreboard win, not a box score win. 668 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: Like that game was much closer I agree about the 669 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: game than it should have been. 670 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 2: And I think we both agree this. This Raiders team 671 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 2: is totally terrible, so terrible. What do we do with 672 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 2: that line? You see their line against Denver, it's minus four. 673 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: I mean you have to take the Raiders like right, 674 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: just and that to me was. 675 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 2: One of the fish That line's really fishy. Giants are 676 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 2: plus three and a half at home against Tampa. 677 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 1: So that's interesting, Like some of these lines have moved. 678 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 1: You know, obviously these were the lines before we get 679 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 1: on the shodow and it's been thirty minutes that we 680 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 1: since we started recording. So now you're saying Raiders are 681 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: up to four. They opened at three, Giants are up 682 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:31,319 Speaker 1: to three and a half. They opened at three. Like, 683 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna want to be on the Giants. I'm gonna 684 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 1: want to be on the Raiders. 685 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 2: I know. It's just again we need to like pull 686 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 2: it back because the like this, Like today, we took 687 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 2: a lot of lines I normally wouldn't honestly take, like 688 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 2: we we joked about the Chiefs were a really public dog, 689 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh was a really public dog. And Detroit I 690 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 2: think it was like ninety five percent of the bets 691 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 2: and the tickets in the action app were on Detroit. 692 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 2: But we're just leaning into this year like this year 693 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 2: thates not matter. The public's just been winning. So normally 694 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 2: I'd honestly be with you and just hammering these giants 695 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,439 Speaker 2: and radio lines. But the public has been so good 696 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 2: it's like, I'm not Russian. I am not rushing to 697 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,439 Speaker 2: bet these ways unless you're been in the favorites. Then 698 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 2: we just talked about you should rush because Denver just 699 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 2: went Chatty said, went from three up to four. So 700 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 2: that's early professional money coming in on them, a team 701 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 2: I wanted to feade no matter what because of what 702 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 2: happened today where the Seahawks. The Seahawks pulled up a 703 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 2: last second win. We can get Arizona right now plus 704 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 2: one plus two as a yes, yes, I'm so that's 705 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 2: an I'm scrabbing now in case it's the same thing 706 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 2: as like Cleveland. Don't know if we'll bet it as 707 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 2: a week goes along, because it might flip. But I 708 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 2: could easily see this number flipping as we sit here 709 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 2: Sunday night, where you out with the Bears because they're 710 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 2: three and a half against this Vikings team. 711 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 1: Well it's come down. It opened at five. Wow, So 712 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: that tells me that professionals are coming in on the Bears. 713 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,919 Speaker 1: And I, like, I got a lot of questions about 714 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: this Minnesota team. I just don't think Sam Darnold is 715 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: very good as a quarterback unless he's throwing to the 716 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:09,880 Speaker 1: middle of the field. And they let Tennessee stay in 717 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 1: this game. So will Brian Flores be able to do 718 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 1: to Caleb Williams what he does to every rookie quarterback? 719 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,400 Speaker 1: It's possible. Will the Bears have a come down moment 720 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:25,439 Speaker 1: because they had their best game in the week where 721 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 1: they could run some new schemes with a new offensive coordinator, 722 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 1: and now there's a little bit more film on that. 723 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 1: Will they be emboldened like the Broncos were to come 724 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 1: out and just dominate after a really tough loss which 725 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,320 Speaker 1: they should have won. Like, I don't know about that yet. 726 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,800 Speaker 1: So for me, if it's already moved to three and 727 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 1: a half, we'll just fucking wait and see. 728 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 2: Those are the professionals who were like literally talking during 729 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 2: that Bears again they were gonna bet the Bears no 730 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 2: matter what this opening week because they just think that 731 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 2: Kleb looks way freer. I guess then he's had looked 732 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 2: in weeks and I would totally agree, do you Because 733 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,720 Speaker 2: again I didn't watch enough of that game. My idea 734 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 2: was it just seemed like by free, do you mean 735 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 2: he's just scrambling more and running with the. 736 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 1: Bowls ran a lot more, But also he was It 737 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 1: felt like they were they were throwing more vertical passes 738 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 1: like downfield, like the routes he was running were the 739 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 1: receivers were running were just more vertical. They weren't throwing 740 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,760 Speaker 1: as many crossing routes, and the players made better plays. 741 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 1: There were also a lot more screens, Like it was 742 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:39,360 Speaker 1: out of his hands in about two seconds flat versus 743 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 1: being closer to three seconds. So who knows, maybe the 744 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,879 Speaker 1: protection was a little bit better, but clearly they did 745 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 1: something that gave him the confidence, that gave him the 746 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: confidence to play as aggressively as he did all game. 747 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:51,880 Speaker 1: I think a lot of it had to do with 748 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:53,839 Speaker 1: getting the ball out of his hands fast. 749 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 2: All right, I'll throw a couple of thousand on them, 750 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 2: because I could see professionals betting this down the three 751 00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 2: So because I was with for the one o'clock games 752 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 2: and they were just a bunch of them were just like, 753 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 2: this is gonna be a bit, This will be a 754 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 2: good change for this Bears team. Like they seem like 755 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 2: they had a rhythm to them. And I honestly wasn't 756 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 2: watching the game enough to have an opinion on it, 757 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,320 Speaker 2: but I trust their opinion. You're saying, you're kind of 758 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 2: seeing the same stuff. It's like, Okay, I already was 759 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,359 Speaker 2: looking for a reason to fade this Viking team because 760 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 2: I'm with you. It's like their defense has just been 761 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 2: carrying them this season. Their defense is so good with 762 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 2: their offense. Sam Darnold's just been so inconsistently these last 763 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 2: couple of weeks. And you know, now he's got another 764 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 2: game on the road outdoors against a divisional opponent. You 765 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 2: expect this to be a tough matchup for him. So yeah, 766 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 2: that makes sense. Sucks. It feels like we missed the 767 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 2: best of it, right, But yeah, I still think three 768 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:44,719 Speaker 2: and a half might be the best of it because 769 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 2: I could see this keep going down if professionals or 770 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 2: keep hitting this number. 771 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 1: Where are you at on rams plus two and a 772 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,400 Speaker 1: half versus the Eagles? Versus the Eagles? 773 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 2: My view would is be patient if you like the Rams, 774 00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 2: which I kind of do. But I took the Eagles 775 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 2: here right away at two and a half because there's 776 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:04,879 Speaker 2: a couple of books at it to two and a half. 777 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 2: I just took that early just because I assume this 778 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 2: will go up to three three and a half by kickoff. 779 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 2: This is the Sunday night game, so uh, this this 780 00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 2: makes sense right the I would say this is a 781 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,399 Speaker 2: great test for this Eagle scheme because we've all heard 782 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 2: the hype right now with these rookie cornerbacks and everyone's 783 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,319 Speaker 2: talking about how the difference they're making, and this will 784 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,880 Speaker 2: be the ultimate test Cooper Cup Puoka, you know, to 785 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 2: the best in the game going against young corners. You 786 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 2: just think that'd be advantage to this Rams team. And 787 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 2: we know that this Eagles team is different on the road. 788 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 2: You know, Jalen Hurts is just better simply at home. 789 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 2: But it's a big deal. They're on extended rest and 790 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 2: this is a Sunday night game, so it's like coming 791 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,160 Speaker 2: off of mini bye week against the Rams team that's 792 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 2: coming off the road. You know, this is not it's 793 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 2: not sure rest, but it kind of is right because 794 00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 2: they're not getting hume till tonight. Yeah, that's that's definitely 795 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,400 Speaker 2: a big deal. So I would say, if you want 796 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 2: to grab the early number and you like the Rams, 797 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,439 Speaker 2: I would just wait. If you like the Eagles, I'd 798 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 2: grab it now because I could easily see this just 799 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,800 Speaker 2: going up to three three and a half by Sunday night. 800 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 1: Boy to Eagles fans, love Cooper dejan Man. 801 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, did you see his a T shirt? He award 802 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 2: you're a big wine guy. I forget now. So you know, 803 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 2: like if you go shopping for wines, they'll be like 804 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 2: the labels to say, exciting whites. Okay, So him in 805 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 2: this human blanker ship wore these shirts. This had exciting 806 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 2: whites on it, and they've got it from this guy 807 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 2: at the Different Mall, which if you know the local area, 808 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 2: it's like, you know, different malls are like I love 809 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 2: Different Mall. It's our trashing mall. Like just the good 810 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 2: people of South Jersey send him and this other guy 811 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,800 Speaker 2: this exciting white shirt. So just it's just hilarious. So 812 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,839 Speaker 2: just we have a white safety and white cornerback who 813 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,840 Speaker 2: are sick. It's it's so random, so funny. 814 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 1: All right, what else am I missing? You mentioned Arizona? 815 00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 1: There is a one and a half out there by 816 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:00,399 Speaker 1: the way. 817 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I saw too. So the twos are going 818 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 2: down to one and a half. 819 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 1: It's worth checking out. What else? What did I miss? 820 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 2: Just we just talked about this forty nine ers team 821 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 2: obviously is not the same team. Isn't this the time 822 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,239 Speaker 2: to buy plus one and a half in Green Bay? 823 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,279 Speaker 2: I mean you just watched that Green Bay. Something's wrong 824 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 2: with Jordan Love? Like, can we all agree he's just 825 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,279 Speaker 2: not what he was last year? Like I know if 826 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 2: it's all the injuries, but he's reckless with the ball. 827 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:30,720 Speaker 2: Did he have another interception in this game? 828 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 1: He did a costly one at the goal line. 829 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 2: Yes, Like he just he keeps making these mistakes and 830 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 2: I don't want to fault him to her because it's 831 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 2: his second year as a starter in this league. It's like, 832 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,799 Speaker 2: this is what we expect. Like that last year we 833 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,759 Speaker 2: talked about that was lighting in a bottle. You know, 834 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 2: if they would have lost that game, I might have 835 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 2: been more convinced to take them here. How do we 836 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,759 Speaker 2: not take this Fortnite team? They have to be one 837 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,239 Speaker 2: of the more desperate teams in all football, and now 838 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,880 Speaker 2: they're a dog in this spot. This could be a 839 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 2: little bit like the Chiefs last week, where I got 840 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,439 Speaker 2: a little bit. Maybe I'm getting a little bit blind 841 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 2: to it just because I love the number here. But 842 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 2: I make this a pick. We're getting plus one and 843 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,160 Speaker 2: a half plus two right now in the forty nine ers. 844 00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 2: This is just an early bet I'm going to make 845 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 2: right now. It's forty nine ers two. I just love 846 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 2: that number, all right. 847 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:21,399 Speaker 1: So we're looking at the Cardinals as dogs. We're looking 848 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:27,560 Speaker 1: at the Niners as dogs. If you like the Rams, wait, 849 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:31,839 Speaker 1: if you like the Bears, you might want to take 850 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:35,319 Speaker 1: the three and a half. We'll probably end up on 851 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,320 Speaker 1: the Giants and the Raiders, but we're keeping our powder 852 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 1: dry the last game. I think tonight has something to 853 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:47,280 Speaker 1: do with it. The charters in the Ravens. Any initial opinion. 854 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 2: Here, No, I'm in no Russia about that one. Yeah, 855 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,279 Speaker 2: they're like to me, if it goes under three, I'm 856 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,880 Speaker 2: gonna take Lamar because we talked about I cap Lamar 857 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,880 Speaker 2: different against Pittsburgh. Do any other team that's just for 858 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 2: some reason, that's just kryptonite of all the teams he plays. 859 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:07,839 Speaker 2: We know the deal. If Lamar is under a three, 860 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,439 Speaker 2: it's an auto play. Don't overthink it. He'll get back, 861 00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,359 Speaker 2: He'll get right that number. That opening number sounds right. 862 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,520 Speaker 2: If the Chargers win this game tonight, this will come down, 863 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,160 Speaker 2: so we'll get a better number. One. So I'm gonna 864 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 2: know Rush, but I do my early pick I want 865 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,919 Speaker 2: to be on. Is this Ravens team all right? 866 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 1: That covers it? Brother As a reminder, Favorites podcast is 867 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,719 Speaker 1: presented by Bet three sixty five and now new Bet 868 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,279 Speaker 1: three sixty five. Customers get one hundred and fifty dollars 869 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:37,799 Speaker 1: and bonus bets when you bet five dollars. Sign up 870 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 1: using promo code Favorite deposit ten dollars. Place a bet 871 00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 1: for five dollars to get one hundred and fifty dollars 872 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:46,320 Speaker 1: and bonus bets. Those bonus bets can be used on spreads, totals, 873 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 1: player props, futures, and more. 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