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Speaker 2: Let's go get my giants, give me some jobs.

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Speaker 1: Part of the Giants podcast network. Let's roll. It's time

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Speaker 1: to look at the Giants, edge players and the Giants

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Speaker 1: of the Giants. I am John Schmelk. We continue to

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Speaker 1: talk to Giants players at different position groups. Today it's

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Speaker 1: the edge groups, the defensive ends, the outside linebackers that

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Speaker 1: rush the pass or whatever you want to call them.

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Speaker 1: The Giants have some really good players at that spot,

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Speaker 1: including new acquisition Brian Burns, who will eat us off.

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Speaker 1: Now we're joined by Giants defensive end, edge rusher, outside

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Speaker 1: linebacker taker pick whatever he gets after the quarterback, he's

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Speaker 1: Brian Burns. Brian, what's up man?

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Speaker 3: What's going on? So we talk.

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Speaker 1: When he got here, it was a very exciting time,

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Speaker 1: but you really had no idea what you're in for

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Speaker 1: in terms of learning the system being a Giant. What

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Speaker 1: is the last you know, a couple months been like

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Speaker 1: for you?

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Speaker 3: It's been good.

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm just getting satured in, you know what,

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Speaker 4: everything that's going on, like, you know, finding a place,

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Speaker 4: getting used to the guys getting used to the area.

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Speaker 4: But other than that, man, everything's been smooth. Sailing real

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Speaker 4: estate in the area is not the funnest thing in

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Speaker 4: the life.

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Speaker 3: No, it's not. But we're gonna make it work.

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Speaker 1: You have to make or you have to live somewhere.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: What has it been like trying to learn Shambow and system.

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Speaker 4: It's been simple, honestly, Like I feel like he's allowing

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Speaker 4: us to play fast. He's keeping everything pretty much. He

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Speaker 4: explains it very he explains it very well. But he's

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Speaker 4: keeping everything pretty simple, especially for the front guy, so

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Speaker 4: we can really get out of the quarterback.

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Speaker 3: We don't have to worry about too much of a scheme.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, It's funny. I see you in Keevano always next

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Speaker 1: to each other working drills.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: If you guys are working with the paths, you're holding

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Speaker 1: a friend he's holding for you. I just feel like

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Speaker 1: your body types are so similar. Do you, guys, as

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Speaker 1: you work and you compare notes, do you really feel

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Speaker 1: like you guys can kind of learn and feed off

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Speaker 1: each other based on just your your body types being

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Speaker 4: Definitely, I've always thought that. I always thought we were pretty

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Speaker 4: similar in that aspect. We just have different certain different traits. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: sure that we that I may do better than him

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Speaker 4: and he may do better than me. But that's where

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Speaker 4: we're gonna make our game complete because we can take

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Speaker 4: each other each other's strong suits and put it to

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Speaker 4: our own game.

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Speaker 1: And So when has been in the league, what are

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Speaker 1: some of the things as a guy you're still young,

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Speaker 1: and you know he's only heading into his thirty year,

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Speaker 1: still figuring things out that you think you can teach

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, the thing, the thing with the league is so tricky.

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Speaker 4: The main things that you can keep like consistent. I

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Speaker 4: would say, keep consistent, you know, just because every year,

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Speaker 4: every year is different, every every every game is different,

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Speaker 4: every matchup is different. But as far as like really

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Speaker 4: taking care of your body and being the freshest, as

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Speaker 4: fresh as possible, that's the main thing I would say,

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Speaker 4: you know, the best the best ability is availability. So

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Speaker 4: if you're on the field and you're fresh, that guy next,

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Speaker 4: I mean, that guy across from you tired most likely

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Speaker 1: I remember when you got here, we talked about and

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Speaker 1: I kind of asked you, do you think you kind

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Speaker 1: I'm not really that familiar with it yet, and I

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Speaker 4: Definitely, definitely, definitely in the third and long, second and

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Speaker 4: back and getting after you know, it's not it's not

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Speaker 3: That's what I like.

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Speaker 4: It's not too much too much dropping back in the

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Speaker 3: I'd rather get out of the quarterback. So that's what

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Speaker 1: Have you thought it all about maybe what some of

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Speaker 1: the passporce packages might look like where you Cavon, Z's

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Speaker 4: It's a dangerous combo. Were all gonna go where we're

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Speaker 4: gonna go to the quarterback?

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Speaker 1: Well, it's funny, i'd Z's here and I joked them.

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Speaker 1: So you guys, like in a fight over which one

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Speaker 4: We don't know, but we don't know who's gonna do

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Speaker 4: that yet. But uh, I know it's not me. I'llford

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Speaker 4: a bet card in that case.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys said, what is it about this

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Speaker 1: defense specifically the personnel in this system that has you

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Speaker 1: most excited as we head towards straining camp.

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Speaker 4: Uh, I'm really excited about the youth we have on

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Speaker 4: this defense. You know, we have a lot of young guys.

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Speaker 4: Like I mean, like the oldest guys in the starting

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Speaker 3: We're all in our sixth year.

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Speaker 4: So that being said, like there's guys that were flying

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Speaker 3: So that's what I'm really excited about.

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Speaker 1: Brian, This is fun man, Always good talking to you, dude,

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you mane training camp.

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Speaker 1: by giants edge player. Boogie basham boogey. How are you man?

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Speaker 3: I'm doing great? Now?

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Speaker 1: You don't do you prefer edge player? Do you like

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Speaker 1: defensive end? Do you like outside linebacker?

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Speaker 3: What do you like? Yep? For defensive end?

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Speaker 1: You like defensive end?

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Speaker 1: All right, so this defense is a little bit different, right.

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Speaker 1: I went back when Shane Baul got here. I watched

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Speaker 1: a lot of Tennessee stuff from last year, and there

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Speaker 1: is a lot of even man front, but there is

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Speaker 1: some odd band stuff too. Do you guys expect you

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Speaker 1: to be more four man front, three man front? What

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Speaker 1: do you think we're gonna see the most stuff as

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Speaker 1: you guys kind of hit the field here for training camp.

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Speaker 6: Expect for training camp. You know, we're just putting in

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Speaker 6: the basics now, just doing our basic four man front

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Speaker 6: that's when the defense gonna start to evolve. We started

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Speaker 6: better than what we are now. You know, right now

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Speaker 6: we just kind of introducing it. We'st training camp. Come,

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Speaker 6: that's like when you actually got to implement it, put

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Speaker 1: Is this more similar to what you had in Buffalo

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Speaker 1: or more similar to what you've done did last year

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Speaker 1: here with Way? Probably the Buffalo?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, definitely Buffalo.

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Speaker 6: Just the four man down basically the scheme, a little

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Speaker 1: What are for guys at your position playing that kind

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Speaker 6: I'll saying in this system, you know, it is just

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Speaker 6: basically getting knocked back when you're getting to overreached by

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Speaker 6: as you know, as long as you knock your man back,

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Speaker 3: Face stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: Now, I got to imagine too, you're gonna have less

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Speaker 1: blitzing probably in this system, right, but when you got

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Speaker 6: Right If like, to me, that's way better than blitzing

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Speaker 1: Right now, how do you feel like the defense has

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Speaker 1: And we're record in this middle of June.

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Speaker 6: I say it came on pretty fast, you know, we're

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Speaker 6: going through OTA's in these practices. There's really not many

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Speaker 6: mental errors. You know, everybody's first time in this defense ultimately,

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Speaker 6: but ultimately like everybody's doing their job, you know, picking

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Speaker 6: thing of not making the same state that God ahead

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Speaker 6: all together as a group.

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Speaker 1: Can't wait to see it. Booky appreciate time, man, sir.

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Speaker 5: Turf, You're good at it. So you start a turf

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Speaker 5: This business grows, your savings grow, become the most celebrated

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Speaker 5: name in turf. Are you ready for all that life brings?

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Speaker 1: Now we're joined by giants. Ed Rusher is thez ojulars

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Speaker 1: these How are you man?

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Speaker 3: So I'm good? How you doing all right?

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Speaker 1: Most importantly, and this is what fans I think want

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Speaker 1: to know. How's your body feeling? Man? Are you healthy?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I'm healthy, I'm good. Yes, sir, I'm ready to go.

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Speaker 2: I'm feeling good and you know, I'm just ready to work.

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Speaker 1: I know last year was frustrating for you. What are

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Speaker 1: some of the things you did this off season. I

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Speaker 1: think we had the same conversation last offseason in the

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Speaker 1: same day about something things you've done to try to

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Speaker 1: keep the body.

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Speaker 2: Healthy, man, you know, just trying to stay on top

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Speaker 2: of wait, things I eat and you know, just oga stuff,

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Speaker 3: You know, he's great.

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Speaker 1: He's a vet, but he's yeah, he's a Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. What is it about Shane bow On the way

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Speaker 3: Man? I love it.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's great. Man.

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Speaker 2: He's uh every day he wants you to get better,

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Speaker 2: We're getting out there and we're seeing improvements in our games.

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Speaker 1: How how good can this past rush be as a group?

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Speaker 3: Will be phenomenal? Man, Scott's a limit.

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Speaker 1: Do you see a situation where it could be you

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Speaker 1: Now you guys gonna fight. Which one do you guys

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Speaker 3: At that point.

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Speaker 1: We can't wait to see it. He's good stuff and

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Speaker 1: appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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