WEBVTT - Ken Rosenthal on Joe Espada’s job security, Marlins firing pro scouts, Crochet returning as reliever? 0:00:05.540 --> 0:00:08.420 Look who's back. It's the Inside Scoop with FT Senior 0:00:08.460 --> 0:00:11.280 Insider Ken Rosenthal. Ken, it is good to see you. 0:00:11.520 --> 0:00:13.860 And I'm going to dive into the Red Sox first. 0:00:13.880 --> 0:00:16.220 We'll eventually get to the Astros and the Marlins and 0:00:16.260 --> 0:00:20.120 some storylines there. Roman Anthony is going to come back 0:00:20.220 --> 0:00:21.880 this week. I don't know if we have the exact 0:00:21.920 --> 0:00:25.140 day down yet, but it's crazy. They've done this without him. 0:00:25.180 --> 0:00:27.010 And I remember most of the season talking to you 0:00:27.070 --> 0:00:28.990 and being like, hey, the Red Sox were hoping he 0:00:29.030 --> 0:00:30.630 was going to be their main man. Well, can he 0:00:30.670 --> 0:00:32.190 do that for the last month? 0:00:33.180 --> 0:00:34.860 What will he be when he comes back? 0:00:34.960 --> 0:00:37.500 It's the question we always have with injured players. What 0:00:37.540 --> 0:00:40.440 will Aaron Judge be when he comes back? They've got 0:00:40.500 --> 0:00:43.460 Trevor Story and Isaiah Kainer-Falefa coming back as well. A 0:00:43.740 --> 0:00:48.070 severe roster crunch awaits because some of the players who 0:00:48.090 --> 0:00:51.449 have replaced the injured guys have done really well. And 0:00:51.470 --> 0:00:53.870 now we're seeing it with Nick Sogard. We've seen it 0:00:53.950 --> 0:00:57.470 with Monasterio and some of the others. So it's a 0:00:57.510 --> 0:01:01.400 really interesting situation there. And obviously with Roman Anthony.. 0:01:02.100 --> 0:01:02.660 If he can. 0:01:02.580 --> 0:01:05.480 Produce at anywhere near the level that he expected, it 0:01:06.180 --> 0:01:07.399 gives them a further boost. 0:01:09.540 --> 0:01:13.320 Ken, is there an expectation on crochet? Is he going 0:01:13.340 --> 0:01:14.920 to come back and be in the bullpen? Isn't that 0:01:14.940 --> 0:01:16.550 kind of what they're talking about with crochet? 0:01:17.500 --> 0:01:21.170 There is, I wouldn't say an expectation, but a possibility 0:01:21.290 --> 0:01:24.270 of that happening. And yeah, it would not be as 0:01:24.310 --> 0:01:26.350 a starter. There's not enough time to build up as 0:01:26.390 --> 0:01:30.169 a starter, but perhaps as a reliever and we'll see 0:01:30.209 --> 0:01:30.770 where that goes. 0:01:33.310 --> 0:01:38.250 Is it expected? Roman Anthony is supposed to be back when? Soon, right? Today? 0:01:38.590 --> 0:01:42.490 Next week. Darn it, Ken. I was hoping he'd be 0:01:42.510 --> 0:01:44.429 in the lineup on Saturday when you get to talk 0:01:44.470 --> 0:01:45.730 about him on Fox. 0:01:46.780 --> 0:01:47.950 I don't expect that to happen. 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:50.940 From what I'm reading, and this is coming from the 0:01:50.980 --> 0:01:55.660 Red Sox beat reporters, that Story and Isaiah Kainafalefa are 0:01:55.740 --> 0:01:59.120 expected back shortly, any day now. So those moves are 0:01:59.140 --> 0:02:01.400 going to happen, and then they're going to have a 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:04.760 situation with Anthony where Their outfield's crowded already. 0:02:04.820 --> 0:02:06.460 We know that. And they're going to have to make 0:02:06.500 --> 0:02:07.100 some decisions. 0:02:08.040 --> 0:02:10.600 Of those other two, Isaiah Conner for left and Trevor Story, 0:02:11.310 --> 0:02:14.810 is there an expectation that maybe they don't slot into starting? 0:02:15.130 --> 0:02:18.130 Not that it's going to delay their rehab, but there's, 0:02:18.430 --> 0:02:20.950 like you said, guys that are having success since they've 0:02:20.990 --> 0:02:21.410 been out. 0:02:22.810 --> 0:02:24.120 Yeah, I don't know how they're going to play it. 0:02:24.500 --> 0:02:27.200 And Eric, it's going to be an interesting thing because 0:02:27.220 --> 0:02:31.210 you've seen with this team, The players that we just discussed, 0:02:31.490 --> 0:02:36.090 Sigler and Monasterio and Sogard, these are the guys who 0:02:36.110 --> 0:02:38.930 have done a really good job in the absences of 0:02:38.970 --> 0:02:42.630 these other players and kind of helped the Red Sox 0:02:42.710 --> 0:02:45.429 get where they were. The roster became more functional with 0:02:45.470 --> 0:02:48.190 these guys kind of doing their thing and they're very versatile. 0:02:48.970 --> 0:02:51.020 So I don't know how this plays out. 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:54.500 And there is a risk, I guess, some risk that 0:02:55.010 --> 0:02:57.540 Things aren't as good with these guys coming back as 0:02:57.580 --> 0:03:02.640 they were with the replacements. That's a challenge that manager 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:05.220 Chad Tracy is going to face, and it's going to 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:08.160 be a difficult one for him, I imagine. I'm sure 0:03:08.210 --> 0:03:11.570 we'll be discussing it on our broadcast Saturday because it's 0:03:11.590 --> 0:03:13.150 going to be live at that point. 0:03:15.090 --> 0:03:17.709 Ken, let's go to a different manager that's staying around, 0:03:17.750 --> 0:03:20.619 and that's Joe Espada. Dana Brown was let go by 0:03:20.660 --> 0:03:23.660 the Astros. Weird timing. I know Jim Crane isn't afraid 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:25.880 to do this in the middle of a season. Was 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:28.440 Joe Espada really told that he's not being brought back 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:31.260 and then he elected to stick around for the rest 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:32.880 of the year? 0:03:32.940 --> 0:03:37.030 Not from what our reporter Chandler Rome understands. And the 0:03:37.170 --> 0:03:39.790 Astros vehemently denied that. It was a report by Bob 0:03:39.850 --> 0:03:46.130 Nightingale yesterday. And Joe Espada, if he was in that position, 0:03:46.590 --> 0:03:48.300 he certainly has not acknowledged it. 0:03:48.510 --> 0:03:50.440 So I don't want to. 0:03:50.940 --> 0:03:54.160 Dump on anybody's report, but this was roundly denied. 0:03:54.300 --> 0:03:57.200 Now, is Joe Espada in trouble? 0:03:57.360 --> 0:04:00.740 By definition, he is in trouble, one, because he's in 0:04:00.780 --> 0:04:03.220 the last year of his contract, two, because the guy 0:04:03.260 --> 0:04:04.650 who hired him just got fired. 0:04:05.190 --> 0:04:07.330 So put those. 0:04:07.170 --> 0:04:09.970 Two things together and the fact that this team, I 0:04:10.010 --> 0:04:12.350 don't know if it's fair to say they've underachieved because 0:04:12.390 --> 0:04:15.090 a lot of what Dana Brown did did not work out. 0:04:15.210 --> 0:04:18.589 The pitchers he brought in, they never addressed the outfield adequately. 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:22.360 That's on the GM, not the manager, and perhaps that's 0:04:22.400 --> 0:04:26.380 why the GM was fired when he was. But Joe Espada, 0:04:26.610 --> 0:04:28.610 at the very least, will have to deal with a 0:04:28.650 --> 0:04:32.130 new GM above him, and that always is perilous for 0:04:32.170 --> 0:04:32.650 a manager. 0:04:33.810 --> 0:04:36.290 Jim Crane doesn't fire managers, he fires GMs. 0:04:36.970 --> 0:04:39.010 Is it fair to say that this isn't a good 0:04:39.070 --> 0:04:43.580 move with other organizations, but has been decently successful for 0:04:43.620 --> 0:04:47.020 Jim Crane to fire GMs, even when he fired Click 0:04:47.120 --> 0:04:48.719 after they won a World Series? 0:04:50.110 --> 0:04:52.110 I don't know that the firing of Click can now 0:04:52.170 --> 0:04:56.110 be remembered as positive because, frankly, they've had more trouble 0:04:56.210 --> 0:04:57.969 under Dana Brown than they did under Click. 0:04:58.450 --> 0:05:00.510 And what Dana. 0:05:00.250 --> 0:05:02.880 Brown was brought in to do, one of the things 0:05:02.980 --> 0:05:07.080 was boost the farm system. He's a scouting background guy, 0:05:07.300 --> 0:05:10.660 and that really hasn't happened. Their farm system is not 0:05:10.700 --> 0:05:14.160 in great shape. Now, granted, they lost some picks back 0:05:14.500 --> 0:05:18.510 in 20 and 21 because of the scandal, but it's still... 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:21.500 a good amount of time has passed and it should 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:24.560 have been better by now. It's not better. So that 0:05:24.740 --> 0:05:27.800 is on Dana Brown. And it's also on Dana Brown, 0:05:27.820 --> 0:05:29.840 what I just said, the outfield, the pitching. 0:05:29.540 --> 0:05:32.310 Staff, the fact that this team is not all there. 0:05:32.470 --> 0:05:33.870 And he didn't. 0:05:33.710 --> 0:05:36.570 Sign as many players to his extent to extensions as 0:05:37.070 --> 0:05:40.490 he indicated he might. So I would not say that 0:05:40.550 --> 0:05:43.650 this worked out well for them. 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Apparently that was 0:07:13.660 --> 0:07:17.080 maybe a Jim crane thing, bringing Carlos Correa back, right? 0:07:17.420 --> 0:07:20.280 The extensions are on the owner. If Jeremy Pena, if, 0:07:20.730 --> 0:07:22.810 You know, whoever wants an extension, the owner has to 0:07:22.850 --> 0:07:24.690 agree to it. The GM, I'm sure, goes to him 0:07:24.710 --> 0:07:27.370 and says, hey, Jeremy, you want an extension? What do 0:07:27.390 --> 0:07:30.290 you want? If he says five years, 100, Jim Crane goes, no, 0:07:30.690 --> 0:07:33.250 too much. Well, then it ain't on Dana Brown. So 0:07:33.270 --> 0:07:36.070 how much does Jim Crane have to have to take 0:07:36.090 --> 0:07:36.870 for blame for this? 0:07:37.710 --> 0:07:38.869 Certainly a good amount. 0:07:39.130 --> 0:07:42.510 And they've made some bad decisions with contracts that were 0:07:42.550 --> 0:07:46.410 Jim Crane driven over the years as well. So, AJ, 0:07:46.430 --> 0:07:48.010 when you look at the whole thing, it's like with 0:07:48.090 --> 0:07:52.210 any team. It's always hard to discern, not always, but 0:07:52.250 --> 0:07:55.540 in many cases with clubs, it's hard to discern how 0:07:55.580 --> 0:07:58.020 much is the GM's fault and how much is the 0:07:58.060 --> 0:08:00.880 fault of the owner who might not be providing the 0:08:00.940 --> 0:08:03.780 resources that the GM would want. I can give you 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:09.110 any number of examples in the game where that distinction 0:08:09.170 --> 0:08:12.910 is difficult to draw, where I don't know exactly if 0:08:12.990 --> 0:08:16.760 it's a money thing, if it's the GM's balking at 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:19.680 certain things. There are all kinds of things that go on. 0:08:20.180 --> 0:08:22.560 But certainly, Crane is the owner of the team. He 0:08:22.620 --> 0:08:25.080 is the one who has said, we're not ever going 0:08:25.130 --> 0:08:29.950 to rebuild. Well, there are indications or times where perhaps 0:08:29.990 --> 0:08:32.010 you should rebuild. And you can make the case that 0:08:32.030 --> 0:08:34.330 the Astros could have done some things along those lines, 0:08:34.710 --> 0:08:36.650 but that's not the direction they chose. 0:08:37.230 --> 0:08:39.839 So here they are, and it's going to be. 0:08:39.820 --> 0:08:42.439 Really interesting to see who they replace Dana Brown with. 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:45.929 Is it going to be Another first-time GM? That's what 0:08:45.970 --> 0:08:50.469 they've done. Luno, Click, Dana Brown, all were first-time guys. 0:08:50.630 --> 0:08:52.170 Or do they get someone more experienced? 0:08:52.480 --> 0:08:54.540 Or do they turn it to Jack Bagwell, who is 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:57.560 in the front office and clearly has influence? 0:08:57.780 --> 0:08:58.530 Does he want it? 0:08:58.600 --> 0:09:00.880 Do they want him? All these questions. 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:03.900 And there's going to be some other teams, of course, 0:09:03.940 --> 0:09:06.240 looking for GMs as well. Two in their own division 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:07.620 right now are unsettled. 0:09:08.110 --> 0:09:11.030 So it's going to be an interesting offseason. 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:14.260 Ken, you mentioned they don't want to rebuild. Last time 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:17.480 they rebuilt, they tore it down. They came back stronger 0:09:17.500 --> 0:09:20.900 than ever. Correa, Bregman, all these guys, right? Altuve. And 0:09:20.940 --> 0:09:23.240 they won two World Series, went to the postseason for 0:09:23.260 --> 0:09:27.450 a bunch of years. Why is this organization so anti-rebuild 0:09:27.530 --> 0:09:30.030 after they were kind of the model franchise for doing it? 0:09:30.890 --> 0:09:33.410 Well, for one thing, AJ, you can't do it the 0:09:33.450 --> 0:09:36.840 same way anymore. There's a draft lottery now, and it's 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:37.420 just different. 0:09:37.440 --> 0:09:38.090 You cannot.. 0:09:38.550 --> 0:09:40.110 Tank the way you once did. 0:09:40.190 --> 0:09:43.590 There are disincentives to doing that and properly so. We 0:09:43.630 --> 0:09:46.520 needed that in the game. The other part of that is, 0:09:46.980 --> 0:09:50.559 and I'll say this on behalf of Jim Crane, you 0:09:50.580 --> 0:09:52.960 want an owner who is going to compete and you 0:09:53.020 --> 0:09:55.070 want an owner who says we're going for it every 0:09:55.110 --> 0:09:58.150 year in the way that they go for it. Obviously, 0:09:58.170 --> 0:09:59.970 it's not all in financially. 0:10:00.090 --> 0:10:00.569 We know that. 0:10:00.950 --> 0:10:05.030 But that is his approach, and that is an approach, frankly, 0:10:05.050 --> 0:10:08.350 we should applaud. Now, at the same time, there are 0:10:08.410 --> 0:10:11.609 moments in a franchise's evolution where it is time to 0:10:11.650 --> 0:10:14.550 take a step back, retool, and kind. 0:10:14.390 --> 0:10:16.870 Of keep going forward. There are teams that do that 0:10:16.910 --> 0:10:19.270 very well. Tampa Bay, Milwaukee, they. 0:10:19.190 --> 0:10:22.490 Can constantly retool and yet stay competitive. 0:10:23.090 --> 0:10:25.510 The Astros needed more of that, and they haven't done it. 0:10:26.570 --> 0:10:28.630 A team in a constant rebuild is the Marlins. You 0:10:28.650 --> 0:10:31.489 wrote a short little article about them getting rid of 0:10:31.510 --> 0:10:33.990 the scouts. Do you have any more information since that 0:10:34.070 --> 0:10:36.860 article came out about how many they got rid of, 0:10:38.110 --> 0:10:41.809 what their next step is with doing mostly video scouting? 0:10:43.410 --> 0:10:45.270 Well, this is something that has gone on with a 0:10:45.309 --> 0:10:48.290 number of teams and we don't know the exact number 0:10:48.370 --> 0:10:52.910 of people that were let go. My initial source told 0:10:52.929 --> 0:10:56.020 me six to eight. That sounds like the proper range 0:10:56.460 --> 0:10:58.600 or at least the accurate range for what this was. 0:10:59.580 --> 0:11:02.160 What the Marlins are doing is saying we can do 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:05.480 this by video and they're going to have some in-person scouting. 0:11:05.540 --> 0:11:07.760 I don't know how much, but essentially they're going to 0:11:07.780 --> 0:11:10.339 do this by video. A lot of teams have made 0:11:10.380 --> 0:11:14.069 that choice in my opinion, It's not the right choice. 0:11:14.530 --> 0:11:18.110 Video is fine. And video gets you a lot. Does 0:11:18.150 --> 0:11:18.929 it get you everything? 0:11:19.170 --> 0:11:19.349 No. 0:11:19.429 --> 0:11:22.540 Now teams will say that having a scout in the 0:11:22.580 --> 0:11:26.620 ballpark and what he might pick up either on players, 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:30.360 I don't know, personal lives or different quirks in their 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:33.140 work habits, whatever they might pick up is not worth 0:11:33.179 --> 0:11:35.950 the investment of having them on the road. I don't 0:11:35.990 --> 0:11:39.290 know about that being true. I don't necessarily buy that. 0:11:39.670 --> 0:11:42.740 To me, having eyes in the ballpark, there is value 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:47.180 in it. And can I economically quantify it to maximize 0:11:47.220 --> 0:11:49.600 the efficiency, which is what all the teams want? 0:11:49.700 --> 0:11:50.699 No, I can't do that. 0:11:51.140 --> 0:11:52.940 But if you're telling me there's no value in that, 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:56.040 that I would disagree with. At the same time, this 0:11:56.059 --> 0:11:59.819 is an economic decision teams have made. And it's not 0:11:59.860 --> 0:12:01.260 like the Marlins are the only one. 0:12:02.630 --> 0:12:06.420 Asking a few people around since you wrote this. they 0:12:06.440 --> 0:12:10.100 don't necessarily think it's all economic. Have you heard anything 0:12:10.160 --> 0:12:15.860 about the fact that video can be evaluated by artificial intelligence, AI, 0:12:16.280 --> 0:12:18.579 and teams are leaning into that and the Marlins are 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:22.590 the most thought of as the most progressive, but have 0:12:22.670 --> 0:12:27.610 teams had success going to this model of video and 0:12:27.690 --> 0:12:28.410 less scouting? 0:12:29.970 --> 0:12:31.829 I don't know the exact answer to that, Eric. 0:12:32.710 --> 0:12:35.309 Obviously they do it And they do it because they 0:12:35.350 --> 0:12:37.690 believe it's going to lead to more success. 0:12:38.190 --> 0:12:40.970 And they believe it's a more efficient way of scouting. 0:12:41.790 --> 0:12:45.250 Is it making teams better or teams that were at 0:12:45.290 --> 0:12:47.790 the forefront of this better off than teams that weren't? 0:12:48.250 --> 0:12:49.390 I don't know the answer to that. 0:12:50.740 --> 0:12:52.340 Ken, there was a team that tried this a few, 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:54.280 I don't know, about 20 years. I don't know how 0:12:54.300 --> 0:12:56.780 many years ago. It was the Oakland Athletics. And their 0:12:56.800 --> 0:12:59.750 drafts then went on to be some of the worst. Remember, 0:12:59.790 --> 0:13:02.670 they fired all their scouts right after Moneyball. Billy Bean 0:13:02.710 --> 0:13:05.350 had it all figured out. You know, him and Billy Bean, 0:13:05.390 --> 0:13:08.650 Paul DePodesta, who's actually, you know, now in Colorado. But, 0:13:08.730 --> 0:13:09.770 you know, they had it all figured out. 0:13:09.809 --> 0:13:10.010 Right. 0:13:10.030 --> 0:13:13.580 Because just have guys that walk. And then they went 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:16.000 and did all video scouting. Remember, they just looked at 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:18.240 the numbers of guys in college and every draft was 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:21.380 college hitters, college hitters. And they thought they all had 0:13:21.420 --> 0:13:23.640 it figured out and it didn't really work. And now 0:13:23.660 --> 0:13:26.340 they've gone back to having scouts. Is this a case 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:28.120 where the Marlins could do this and then have to 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:29.140 bring back scouts later? 0:13:31.070 --> 0:13:33.980 It is, but the trend in the game is not 0:13:34.010 --> 0:13:36.819 that way. And again, it's not something I agree with. 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:38.939 And there are a lot of good people in baseball 0:13:39.540 --> 0:13:42.480 who have either lost influence or lost their jobs in 0:13:42.540 --> 0:13:46.210 recent years. And I know, as I said before, the 0:13:46.470 --> 0:13:48.969 answer that clubs will give you is these guys weren't 0:13:49.010 --> 0:13:51.970 all that and they weren't contributing as much as people 0:13:51.990 --> 0:13:54.710 like me think they were. And that may be all 0:13:54.730 --> 0:13:58.030 well and good. But what we don't hear about is 0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:01.260 what is missing with the video scouting and what teams 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:04.600 might be missing and the decisions that are made that 0:14:05.140 --> 0:14:07.750 maybe aren't as shrewd as they should be. There are 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:10.709 a lot of bad decisions made with all these clubs 0:14:10.890 --> 0:14:15.750 operating under this maximum efficiency that they claim to be pursuing. 0:14:16.250 --> 0:14:18.390 So yeah, they. 0:14:18.270 --> 0:14:20.770 Can operate how they want to operate and I understand 0:14:20.810 --> 0:14:23.230 it and I understand the economics of it and why 0:14:23.290 --> 0:14:25.650 they're doing it and they believe it's a better way 0:14:25.690 --> 0:14:28.210 to go about it. But You're telling me that it's 0:14:28.250 --> 0:14:30.989 improved decision-making across the game? 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Hey, we've heard Todd Father on here 0:15:11.530 --> 0:15:14.280 talk about how his kids have gone through homeschooling, and 0:15:14.340 --> 0:15:16.900 it's really helped them for a family that is very 0:15:16.960 --> 0:15:19.890 much on the move during his playing career. So you 0:15:19.930 --> 0:15:22.590 can see how K-12 powered schools can help unlock your 0:15:22.630 --> 0:15:26.650 child's full potential. Enroll online today at k12. com slash foul. 0:15:26.890 --> 0:15:33.730 That's the letter K, the number 12.com slash F-O-U-L, k12. com 0:15:32.670 --> 0:15:38.630 slash foul. One clarification here too, can pro scouting department. 0:15:39.140 --> 0:15:45.100 So they're looking at minor league players via trades, waiver wire, scouting, 0:15:45.140 --> 0:15:48.660 obviously for the team itself on, hey, picking up tendencies, right? Like, 0:15:48.720 --> 0:15:51.950 can you, explain anything on that front and how that 0:15:51.990 --> 0:15:54.730 could affect the way that actually a team like the 0:15:54.770 --> 0:15:57.650 Marlins finds a diamond in the rough. They just feel 0:15:57.690 --> 0:16:00.630 like we can find the diamond in the rough via video. 0:16:00.690 --> 0:16:03.790 We don't need to have guys out or girls on 0:16:03.830 --> 0:16:06.480 the scene, finding a waiver claim that ends up being 0:16:06.500 --> 0:16:07.620 the next big thing for us. 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:11.780 Well, you're right, Scott, that people should understand there are 0:16:11.860 --> 0:16:15.750 pro scouts who scout professional baseball and There are amateur 0:16:15.770 --> 0:16:18.990 scouts who scout amateurs, guys that are going to be drafted, 0:16:19.030 --> 0:16:24.020 and there are international scouts looking at the international players. Again, 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:28.160 with the pro scouting, it has definitely been diminished across 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:30.680 the board in recent years. Now, the Marlins have taken 0:16:30.880 --> 0:16:33.870 what seems to be a pretty severe step. It basically 0:16:33.930 --> 0:16:37.790 sounds like they've eliminated the entire department. They deny that, 0:16:37.910 --> 0:16:41.010 but it's certainly the guts of the department have been removed. 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:43.520 There are other ways to scout. 0:16:43.620 --> 0:16:48.080 Yes. And that's what we're talking about here. Again, do 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:52.100 you get everything you might get otherwise? These teams say no. 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:55.080 And these teams say this is the way to go. 0:16:55.340 --> 0:16:57.980 And I don't have an exact answer. What I was 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:01.300 just saying before is that, and this is a complaint 0:17:01.340 --> 0:17:03.000 I hear from more. 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:06.050 Old school baseball people. Okay, they say. 0:17:06.650 --> 0:17:09.810 We hear about our bad decisions and we make mistakes. 0:17:10.010 --> 0:17:12.790 Everybody in baseball misses. That's the beauty of the game. 0:17:12.830 --> 0:17:15.170 It's a game of failure, not just on the field, 0:17:15.230 --> 0:17:15.990 but off the field. 0:17:16.850 --> 0:17:17.169 Fine. 0:17:17.990 --> 0:17:21.610 But what about the misses that occur under these new systems? 0:17:22.430 --> 0:17:23.950 They're not talked about. 0:17:23.970 --> 0:17:28.330 And that to me is a fair assessment that, yes, 0:17:28.650 --> 0:17:31.040 we've changed the game or the game has changed in 0:17:31.100 --> 0:17:34.010 many ways. And in some ways, definitely for the better, 0:17:34.030 --> 0:17:38.149 the technology and all the things that are available now, data, 0:17:38.350 --> 0:17:43.170 everything has given us a greater understanding as fans, media, 0:17:43.530 --> 0:17:44.600 and of course, from. 0:17:44.520 --> 0:17:48.260 A club perspective. But you still see mistakes. 0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:50.900 And that's the old school people's complaint. 0:17:51.140 --> 0:17:53.399 Hey, we made mistakes, sure. 0:17:53.960 --> 0:17:55.780 But there are mistakes still being made. 0:17:57.010 --> 0:17:59.250 Ken, it's so hard to replicate having a guy in 0:17:59.270 --> 0:18:01.429 the stands. You know this when you do games. In 0:18:01.470 --> 0:18:03.810 the stands, the atmosphere, watching a guy, the way they 0:18:03.830 --> 0:18:05.010 react to situations. 0:18:05.109 --> 0:18:05.869 Absolutely. 0:18:06.470 --> 0:18:08.649 That's the thing that I think the video– fine, you 0:18:08.690 --> 0:18:11.189 can measure bat speed. You can measure launch angle. You 0:18:11.210 --> 0:18:14.340 can measure all those things, pitch spin, all those things. 0:18:14.630 --> 0:18:16.850 But you can't measure a guy unless– I'm telling you, 0:18:16.859 --> 0:18:18.980 unless you're sitting in a dugout, unless you're sitting in 0:18:19.020 --> 0:18:21.899 the stands watching a guy, how they react to situations. 0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:24.359 And that's what I think we'll be missing. That's my comment. 0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:26.980 I mean, I think scouts are very valuable. I think 0:18:27.040 --> 0:18:28.840 video is very valuable. I think there should be a 0:18:28.859 --> 0:18:31.100 mix of the two. That's it. It's just really hard. 0:18:31.590 --> 0:18:36.230 to evaluate a guy's heart makeup, all those things without 0:18:36.369 --> 0:18:37.910 actually putting eyeballs on the guy. 0:18:38.890 --> 0:18:40.730 I want to see everything. 0:18:41.090 --> 0:18:44.330 I want to see what he's doing pregame in his 0:18:44.390 --> 0:18:47.310 pregame work. I want to see AJ, just what you said, 0:18:47.810 --> 0:18:52.270 how he's reacting to situations, body language, all of these things. 0:18:52.430 --> 0:18:54.340 You're not picking all of that up on video. 0:18:54.390 --> 0:18:54.929 I'm sorry. 0:18:54.950 --> 0:18:55.360 You're not. 0:18:55.880 --> 0:18:59.580 So AJ, yeah, there is something that is lost when 0:18:59.619 --> 0:19:03.360 you eliminate the scout in the ballpark. And again, this 0:19:03.380 --> 0:19:05.500 is an argument that's been going on in the sport 0:19:05.540 --> 0:19:07.929 for years, and there are two sides of it. 0:19:08.280 --> 0:19:10.859 I just feel that the value. 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:16.419 Of those in-person scouts has been diminished to the point 0:19:16.460 --> 0:19:18.060 where it's not right. 0:19:19.140 --> 0:19:20.159 These guys do have value. 0:19:20.180 --> 0:19:22.140 All right, last one, Ken. 0:19:22.619 --> 0:19:26.400 This weekend, you're the Yankees' the Vaunted, the unbelievable Yankees 0:19:26.460 --> 0:19:27.359 Red Sox series. 0:19:27.880 --> 0:19:30.139 What do you see or what are you intrigued. 0:19:29.660 --> 0:19:32.520 About seeing in the coming week and this weekend with 0:19:32.540 --> 0:19:33.000 the Yankees? 0:19:34.859 --> 0:19:35.560 With the Yankees? 0:19:37.810 --> 0:19:42.270 Well, obviously we're monitoring their injuries, right? Judge and Freed and. 0:19:42.290 --> 0:19:47.149 Who's coming back when. But they're trying to stay in 0:19:47.170 --> 0:19:48.930 the race in the AL East. 0:19:49.090 --> 0:19:49.970 With Tampa Bay, right? 0:19:50.109 --> 0:19:54.050 They're trying to possibly win the division title. So how 0:19:54.190 --> 0:19:58.110 are they going to respond to that? That's what we've 0:19:58.130 --> 0:20:00.429 been watching for a couple of months now with the 0:20:00.490 --> 0:20:04.699 injury situation. And Ryan Weathers is the latest. John Carlos 0:20:04.720 --> 0:20:08.410