Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal. Holl that for me. I'm
Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,
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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the solid verbal, boys and girls. My
Speaker 2: name is ty Hildenbrandt. That fine gentleman over there nodding
Speaker 2: his head approvingly in the heart of the Midwest where
Speaker 2: spring is officially sprung Cago, Illinois, Dan Rubistetzer, how are you.
Speaker 1: I'm great. It's high sixties today, sun is out, not
Speaker 1: really clouds in the sky. Life is good. And I
Speaker 1: don't know if you have a sound to commemorate this,
Speaker 1: but I would like to make a bit of an
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Speaker 1: For the next four to five years of my life,
Speaker 1: I have decided to commit to having a low grade
Speaker 1: cough and sore throat because with two kids three and under,
Speaker 1: three and one, that apparently is my new reality. At
Speaker 1: two plus weeks and I've tested negative for COVID two
Speaker 1: plus weeks of just feeling not great, not terrible, not crazy, bedridden, sick,
Speaker 1: just that low hum of blurg. We're getting to.
Speaker 2: The point where it may be fair to start asking
Speaker 2: whether Jody with an Eye has some sort of poisoning
Speaker 2: situation going on.
Speaker 1: The low key poisoning situation, A little.
Speaker 2: Bit of arsenic in the morning cereal, something of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, she's messing enough that she would just leave
Speaker 1: out the bottle if that were the case. So probably
Speaker 1: not the situation, But most definitely I am living in
Speaker 1: a house of snot and horror all the time.
Speaker 2: Snot and horror. Well, we'll get into talking about snot
Speaker 2: and horror here in a little bit. You've got five
Speaker 2: questions for me, five questions that I know have been
Speaker 2: on your mind that we have not had a chance
Speaker 2: to address. And then a little bit later on this week,
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Speaker 1: So yeah, by the way, Ole miss, very quietly wide
Speaker 1: receiver you these past few years, DK metcalf, AJ Brown,
Speaker 1: Elijah Moore a couple of years ago, like very quietly
Speaker 1: stacking receivers upon receivers that are of I guess blittan
Speaker 1: a cough esque quality. We can agree that's fair. I
Speaker 1: think that's fair.
Speaker 2: And long before any of these guys, we had la
Speaker 2: Quantosaurus rex or boy. Of course, of course, with all
Speaker 2: that being said, Dan, as we said at the very top,
Speaker 2: you've got questions from me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do. I do. We are sort of in
Speaker 1: that very early period of spring practice, and we're head
Speaker 1: of the NFL Draft. We are, you know, past signing day,
Speaker 1: and so this is an opportunity. And we recently did
Speaker 1: a pretty big part one of the Q and A
Speaker 1: show publicly and part two one verballers dot Com, where
Speaker 1: I just I've got a lot of my mind. Ty yea.
Speaker 2: As ever as ever, let me ask you, Let me
Speaker 2: ask you a question though.
Speaker 1: Before you going together. Okay, we're recording.
Speaker 2: This right now on March twenty first. As we said
Speaker 2: an episode or two ago, spring games are gonna start
Speaker 2: cranking up here pretty soon, pretty much.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: The middle three weeks of April is when your favorite team,
Speaker 2: the bigger teams are gonna be playing their spring games.
Speaker 2: Scale of one to ten. Where are you at in
Speaker 2: terms of excitement for the twenty twenty two season, Yeah,
Speaker 2: versus where do you think the general public is.
Speaker 1: I get a sense that people are less enthused than usual,
Speaker 1: judging by the off season. I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: a transfer portal thing. I don't know if it's an
Speaker 1: nil thing, or it's the uncertainty about the postseason and
Speaker 1: the organization of the sport. I get a sense that
Speaker 1: there's a lot of apprehension about what's to come in
Speaker 1: college football. Now. It's also spring, it's also March. It's
Speaker 1: it's not the proper time to gauge excitement over the sport.
Speaker 1: But I do. I do get that sense, at least
Speaker 1: looking at the conversation online. And I don't know, do
Speaker 1: you get that sense? I? You know, I would compare
Speaker 1: it to which is a bummer, but it is a bummer,
Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, I compare to this.
Speaker 2: Everybody's got a friend who uses Facebook like it's Twitter.
Speaker 1: Yes, And it's just a lot. It is. It's a lot.
Speaker 2: You don't necessarily want to remove the online relationship the
Speaker 2: real friendship in real life, what have you.
Speaker 1: It's just a lot. It's a lot.
Speaker 2: And I kind of get that impression because college football
Speaker 2: right now is a lot. There's a lot going on,
Speaker 2: there's news every day. It's beginning that slow climb into
Speaker 2: NFL territory where it becomes a year round thing. And
Speaker 2: I think nil, I think the transfer portal, those those
Speaker 2: topics in particular are going to help get us there
Speaker 2: before long. But I don't know if everybody's ready for
Speaker 2: that quite yet, and so.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I'm with you. We will
Speaker 1: get to a point in.
Speaker 2: Late April where people are, you know, like I don't know,
Speaker 2: just amused by college football and curious, they're college football curious.
Speaker 2: At that point where maybe they get to like a
Speaker 2: four or five on the meter, may hits nobody cares
Speaker 2: about college football, which is it's the doldrums of college football.
Speaker 2: But then you get into June and July and then
Speaker 2: it starts building up to a fever pitch by the
Speaker 2: time we get to Labor Day weekends. So right now,
Speaker 2: this is an important time to get these questions out
Speaker 2: of the way. Whatever's on your mind, let's get them
Speaker 2: out of the way. Now, let's talk it out, Let's
Speaker 2: hug it out if we have to, I don't know,
Speaker 2: And then by the time things really start getting cranked
Speaker 2: up here, we'll we'll be free and clear to talk
Speaker 2: about the news.
Speaker 1: Of the day. First question, Thursday, Ty is National Cocktail Day.
Speaker 1: I had to look this up, and every great cocktail
Speaker 1: needs well, it needs balance, sure, sweet sour, maybe a
Speaker 1: little bit of spice. You got your base liquor, maybe
Speaker 1: the right temperature if you want it on the rocks
Speaker 1: if you want it, you know, blended off a frozen
Speaker 1: drink of some kind. So, given that we do have
Speaker 1: the world's largest outdoor cocktail party, I want to ask you,
Speaker 1: because I don't think that's the answer, which historic rivalry
Speaker 1: currently has the most balance. So the the cocktail coming
Speaker 1: together a shaker, It is a shaker. Wow. So when
Speaker 1: you look at the bigger rivalries across the sport, big, big,
Speaker 1: you know schools, small schools, whatever, to you, which is
Speaker 1: humming at a really nice level? Like there's a both
Speaker 1: teams are competitive, you know, there's the coaching personalities are there?
Speaker 1: You know you have a push pull. Maybe it's a
Speaker 1: back and forth over who wins every year. Uh, maybe
Speaker 1: there's a good amount of hatred in the air interesting
Speaker 1: players recently. What is which is the cocktail that feels
Speaker 1: the most balanced and is in the uh the spiciest place.
Speaker 2: Perhaps, you know, there are so many different ways to
Speaker 2: grade this, sure, I think, and I would be loath
Speaker 2: to look solely at the win loss record, Okay, when
Speaker 2: it comes to balance, because I don't know if you
Speaker 2: could really take that at face value. I think the
Speaker 2: answer for me is the Iron Bowl. I think The
Speaker 2: answer for me is the Iron.
Speaker 1: Bowl, and here's why. Here's why.
Speaker 2: Okay, that game there was and you could use the
Speaker 2: game that we saw in twenty twenty one as a
Speaker 2: perfect example. There was no reason that game should have
Speaker 2: been closed.
Speaker 1: I hear you, there was.
Speaker 2: There was no reason that game should have been close.
Speaker 2: And I think the mark of a true rivalry in
Speaker 2: college sports is when you've got a situation like that.
Speaker 2: We talked with Pat Bostik, right, talk with Pat about
Speaker 2: the coming back Pitt West Virginia game. Yeah, backyard brother
Speaker 2: are twenty eight point dog. Going into that game, West
Speaker 2: Virginia seemed on a glide path to the national championship.
Speaker 2: Pitt wins the game thirteen to nine. Defensive struggle like
Speaker 2: that is the mark of a true rivalry where even
Speaker 2: though maybe the records are a bit lopsided, maybe in
Speaker 2: the case of the Iron Bowl, you've got a team
Speaker 2: like Alabama that's had so much more recent success, it's
Speaker 2: almost in a different stratosphere. But still you can have
Speaker 2: overtime games like the one we saw this fall. This
Speaker 2: past fall, I should say where it's close. Auburn probably
Speaker 2: could have won that game if they went for two
Speaker 2: instead of opting to tie it. That's still as stuck
Speaker 2: in my crawl.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but.
Speaker 2: I feel like that game always has the potential to
Speaker 2: be close, and also because of Alabama's recent success, it
Speaker 2: always has the chance to be very consequential around college football.
Speaker 2: There's a real domino effect because they play in the SEC.
Speaker 2: Because Alabama is always in the running, there's always that
Speaker 2: added layer to it. There's no shortage of hatred in
Speaker 2: that rivalry either, There's just not there's always interest, doesn't
Speaker 2: matter what the records are. Rivalry where you can quite
Speaker 2: literally throw the records out.
Speaker 1: I was all over the place with this one, and
Speaker 1: I think I settled on Michigan Ohio State just because
Speaker 1: of where we are at the moment. At the moment,
Speaker 1: we are in the shadow of Michigan at the end
Speaker 1: emphatically beating Ohio State and flipping the script a bit right,
Speaker 1: beating Ohio State to get to the Big Ten Championship game,
Speaker 1: which they they win that game emphatically end up in
Speaker 1: the playoff. Now, obviously they're not competitive in their playoff
Speaker 1: game against Georgia, but it raised the question of who's
Speaker 1: gonna win moving forward more often, at least to a
Speaker 1: more interesting point than it has been with Ohio State's
Speaker 1: dominance prior to that. And then you know, you in
Speaker 1: the wake of Ryan Day saying he wanted to hang
Speaker 1: one hundred on them, you know, the year, the COVID
Speaker 1: year in twenty twenty, and then Michigan taking that personally
Speaker 1: and Jim Harbach, you know, sort of leaving but not
Speaker 1: leaving because nobody would hire him, and so he's back
Speaker 1: in ann Arbor, and that there is a quarterback of
Speaker 1: the future at Michigan. There's always going to be a
Speaker 1: quarterback at the future at Ohio State. And there is
Speaker 1: something to me about Auburn not even liking their own coach,
Speaker 1: which I guess they technically never do, but that the
Speaker 1: tumultuous nature of Auburn football at the moment has me
Speaker 1: less excited for the Iron Bowl and it makes it
Speaker 1: feel like it's in a less exciting place. Oklahoma and
Speaker 1: Texas leaving the Big Twelve make me uncertain about the
Speaker 1: ramifications of that game moving forward and not knowing what
Speaker 1: to expect. And I love the excitement around Brent Venables
Speaker 1: within the Oklahoma fan base. I just don't have a
Speaker 1: sense for that rivalry with Brent Venables in that top
Speaker 1: job UCLA USC. I feel like, you know, there's excitement
Speaker 1: around USC, but we don't know what that is. With
Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley UCLA. We kind of have a concept for
Speaker 1: what Chip Kell UCLA is. Oregon's dominated, Washington Callen Stanford
Speaker 1: hasn't been hasn't had big fallout. You know, you look
Speaker 1: at that rivalry game, you look at I don't know
Speaker 1: other parts of the SEC. You know, Florida Tennessee, Flora
Speaker 1: to Georgia, Florida Kentucky. Like I know, Florida Kentucky's not
Speaker 1: a rivalry game, but I'm just I'm searching up and down.
Speaker 1: Like Clemson, South Carolina is not in a particularly healthy
Speaker 1: place right now. And so I think, just to the
Speaker 1: average fan, to the dedicated fan, I think Michigan Ohio
Speaker 1: State has has the spice and the drinking violence involved.
Speaker 1: To answer this question for me, I.
Speaker 2: Think that's fair. I think that's a fair answer.
Speaker 1: I'd love for it to be Tennessee Alabama. Yeah, that'd
Speaker 1: be great. At LSU Obama. I thought about Texas.
Speaker 2: And Oklahoma because that's another one that always feels like
Speaker 2: it's gonna come down to the wire. But I think
Speaker 2: where I'm really hung up on is the iron ball
Speaker 2: always has some sort of national significance, not to say
Speaker 2: that Texas and Oklahoma doesn't, But Alabama is the apex predator.
Speaker 2: They're the apex predator all the time, and so always
Speaker 2: having that game at the end of the season that
Speaker 2: against their hated rival that can knock them off the pedestal,
Speaker 2: maybe knock them out of the running.
Speaker 1: That's interesting if you if you talk about national implications
Speaker 1: of the game as a part of your cocktail that
Speaker 1: you you deem to be important. I get that if
Speaker 1: we get rid of that, if we are just if
Speaker 1: we're just intent on making like a fireball cocktail, if
Speaker 1: we're intent on the spice right that like, ooh ah,
Speaker 1: what is that in your cocktail? I think it's the
Speaker 1: egg Bowl. I think the egg Bowl is probably the
Speaker 1: truest form of a distilled college football rivalry. It's interstate.
Speaker 1: I do like the egg Bowl. I do like the
Speaker 1: egg Bowl, if it only because the name. I love
Speaker 1: the egg Bowl. The egg Bowls has a great name
Speaker 1: also Thanksgiving. So it's sort of set aside as an
Speaker 1: important Like the end, NFL can't fully make up its
Speaker 1: mind how many games they want to play whatever on Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1: College football sort of narrowed it down at least power
Speaker 1: five FBS. Whatever has narrowed it down that on Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1: You know, we had the it wasn't a little bit
Speaker 1: of Texas Texas A and M a few years ago,
Speaker 1: which would be great if that came back. But I
Speaker 1: think it will the Egg Bowl in the way that
Speaker 1: it stands alone on the schedule and also the unique
Speaker 1: qualities of the Grove and cow Bells. Just in terms
Speaker 1: of a game cocktail, it's really going to mess you up,
Speaker 1: and it in every facet, in every facet, right on
Speaker 1: the recruiting trail with NCAA violations alleged, with the back
Speaker 1: and forth nature of the game, sometimes with the coaching
Speaker 1: personalities with Dan Mullen and Mike Leech and Lane Kiffin
Speaker 1: obviously Matt Luke. I think that is probably our hour
Speaker 1: as a sports electric rivalry.
Speaker 2: More importantly, Dan, what is your cocktail? Actual cocktail?
Speaker 1: Good question, good question. Brown liquor tends to really mess
Speaker 1: up my sleep, Like I'll pass out real quick and
Speaker 1: then I'll wake up at three forty four am, wide
Speaker 1: awake and feeling like garbage. So I've been staying away
Speaker 1: from the brown liquor more and more. I like certain
Speaker 1: tequila cocktails. Margaritas are fine. I know you can't handle
Speaker 1: your your tequila.
Speaker 2: Oh God, don't say I can smell it when you
Speaker 2: say it.
Speaker 1: I like a good mule, like ginger and vodka and
Speaker 1: simple syrup, that kind of thing. A mohito is fine
Speaker 1: by me. Rum can can lead me astray a little bit, yeah,
Speaker 1: but something cold and refreshing is sort of my direction.
Speaker 1: Like I love that bronze mule cup. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm talking about, dude, Yeah, yeah, you know I turned
Speaker 1: bronze something. Yeah, I turned forty and I decided I
Speaker 1: was going to start trying bourbon. Yeah, Burbon's delicious, but
Speaker 1: it can mess you up. Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, I'm not drinking enough to mess me up. But okay,
Speaker 2: I'm just trying it. You know, I'm dabbling with it
Speaker 2: right now to see if it makes me feel sophistically
Speaker 2: like an old fashioned You like a dark and stormy Well,
Speaker 2: the reason I started drinking it just with a you know,
Speaker 2: a big shaped ice cube and nothing more is because
Speaker 2: I made some old fashions at a birthday party and
Speaker 2: dark can storm me.
Speaker 1: By the way, is wrong. I got that wrong.
Speaker 2: Continue, Yeah, yeah, And then I decided, well, I I
Speaker 2: just don't want to keep putting all that sugar in
Speaker 2: the drink, and so I'm just going to try it straight,
Speaker 2: which I had never really done before. And I found
Speaker 2: that Okay, well I can. I can nurse this over
Speaker 2: the course of the evening. And now that I've entered
Speaker 2: my fifth decade of life, it makes me feel sophisticated.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: So yeah, we've been we've been experimenting right now with
Speaker 2: a little Elijah Craig downstairs.
Speaker 1: So okay, what's your budget? What's your bourbon budget?
Speaker 2: There is a bottle, it's not big enough to actually
Speaker 2: be considered a budget, let's put it that way.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm saying, like, how much did your bottle of
Speaker 1: Elijah Craig set you back? Thirty five bucks? Okay, So
Speaker 1: right around there, if somebody has any suggestions for tye.
Speaker 2: As, We're not We're not going We're not adapting to
Speaker 2: a lifestyle here. I'm just saying, right, trying it out
Speaker 2: for the moment.
Speaker 1: Sure, No, I good bourbon is delicious. It's just man,
Speaker 1: it sends me into a weird direction. Yeah, yeah, do
Speaker 1: you like any of those refreshing you know, more ice
Speaker 1: bound cocktails. I'm not a big mule guy.
Speaker 2: Oh really, no, I never really got I read something
Speaker 2: on Google that the copper cup can poison you. Oh no,
Speaker 2: and I don't really believe it.
Speaker 1: But that's stuck with.
Speaker 2: Me, and so I haven't No, I haven't gone there
Speaker 2: in a while.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, tie, Let's let's set aside for the
Speaker 1: second question number two, that you watch games all day
Speaker 1: on Saturday, because it is your job to watch as
Speaker 1: much football as humanly possible on Saturday and talk about
Speaker 1: it very early Sunday morning. Correct, that's correct. What would
Speaker 1: it take for me to get you in a stadium
Speaker 1: this fall twenty twenty two model, like you're a college
Speaker 1: football st Like.
Speaker 2: You're selling me a c X nine here.
Speaker 1: Huh, it's correct, a mundo.
Speaker 2: Need a good parking situation obviously.
Speaker 1: Of course, of course sort.
Speaker 2: Of goes without saying at this point, I think it
Speaker 2: would actually have to be with you, okay, because the
Speaker 2: nature of what we do on the weekends is such
Speaker 2: that we're pretty much glued to the TV all day,
Speaker 2: every day, m hm, And so at least if I'm
Speaker 2: with you, it sort of gives us a theme that
Speaker 2: we can record and talk about on Sunday night, Okay,
Speaker 2: and then parking company. Yeah, we'll both be in the
Speaker 2: dark equally, right, and I won't feel as dumb when
Speaker 2: I try to go through the other games that I
Speaker 2: didn't watch.
Speaker 1: But let's let's, just for the sake of argument, say
Speaker 1: it's a you know, a Thursday night matchup that you
Speaker 1: know you you can afford to go because nothing else
Speaker 1: of concert once is happening at that moment, or a
Speaker 1: Friday night matchup or an early season labor day whatever.
Speaker 1: So let's just assume that that's not the concern. That
Speaker 1: we're just talking about the stadium experience that has been
Speaker 1: missing for a lot of people as fewer and fewer
Speaker 1: people are going to games casually. So about so, I
Speaker 1: think parking is a terrific part of it. Any what
Speaker 1: else is there that would attract you to making a
Speaker 1: return to a stadium for the first time in a bit?
Speaker 2: I mean, I think that first off, the game has
Speaker 2: to be significant. Yeah, it has to be a meaningful game.
Speaker 2: It has to be the kind of game that you
Speaker 2: want to go see live. I also think, and maybe
Speaker 2: I'm being a little bit of a snob here about this,
Speaker 2: But we're all friends here. I'm just going to be
Speaker 2: real with you, please, I on a handful of occasions
Speaker 2: have had the great pleasure of having the press pass
Speaker 2: and being able to sort of walk in and just
Speaker 2: walk where you want and not have to fight the crowds.
Speaker 2: That sort of thing that's really addicting.
Speaker 1: It's sort of like a more sterile experience.
Speaker 2: It's more sterile, but it's sort of like flying private
Speaker 2: Like it's short. Yeah, it's just a luxury that if
Speaker 2: you can have it right, it's sort of intoxicating.
Speaker 1: So I would. I would. So you'd say, not necessarily
Speaker 1: press past, but a suite access to a sweet.
Speaker 2: Yes, something where I could you know, I'm not talking
Speaker 2: like j low levels where I need my own bathroom
Speaker 2: or anything crazy, but you.
Speaker 1: Have high class taste. I get it.
Speaker 2: But yeah, like, if if that's an option, then that's
Speaker 2: interesting to me. Okay, to be honest with you, Beyond that,
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know if I have any requirements.
Speaker 2: It just gets complicated when it comes time to actually
Speaker 2: record on Sundays. So if there's a way around that,
Speaker 2: and if it's the other thing would be as long
Speaker 2: as it's not a place that's just ridiculous to get to,
Speaker 2: you know, a place it's easy and easy out right.
Speaker 2: I'm open to it. I'm I miss going to game,
Speaker 2: so it it's got.
Speaker 1: To be the right circumstance. Hypothetically, if there was a
Speaker 1: decent I don't know, Wisconsin Penn State game in Madison,
Speaker 1: and we had a dedicated Wisconsin fan who goes to
Speaker 1: games in a suite and has a swath of parking spots. Yeah,
Speaker 1: as a wide you know a few parking spots, and
Speaker 1: I guess you wouldn't need a parking spot if you're
Speaker 1: traveling unless you rent a car.
Speaker 2: I always come in on a helicopter, So it's not.
Speaker 1: If you were Yeah, of course, if you were invited
Speaker 1: as a guest of honor with somebody, would just like
Speaker 1: just get here and you can come watch the game
Speaker 1: in a suite, would you go, I'd consider it, Oh, man,
Speaker 1: come on, somebody tie a guest. Depends on the game,
Speaker 1: depends on the place, that depends on the weather. It depends.
Speaker 1: I'd be honored. If Wisconsin Penn State were playing in
Speaker 1: mid September, certainly, yes, a colder part of the year.
Speaker 1: I don't know I mean it depends, you know. So
Speaker 1: I don't need the sweet thing I need. I need parking.
Speaker 1: I need good company. Like if a bunch of buddies
Speaker 1: invited me to go to a random good game somewhere
Speaker 1: at a place that I either have been to and
Speaker 1: like or have been curious about going to, I would
Speaker 1: try to go. I would definitely try and go. I
Speaker 1: think it's the people, and then I think it's the
Speaker 1: ease of getting there, and then it's like I don't
Speaker 1: really care about Wi Fi that much in a stadium,
Speaker 1: to be honest, Well that's that's a big thing. People
Speaker 1: don't want to be disconnected during a game. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I've just always assumed that in a big stadium setting
Speaker 2: like that, the WiFi is not going to work right.
Speaker 2: It's just not gonna as too many people and networks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, there are certain parts of the in
Speaker 1: game experience, like you want a million bathrooms. A million
Speaker 1: clean bathrooms would be wonderful to have tie in a
Speaker 1: perfect world, But to me, it's more just how easy,
Speaker 1: Like I just are going to be packed in like
Speaker 1: sardines on a concourse, Like I just I want more
Speaker 1: thoughtful stadium design and I think we're getting there with
Speaker 1: some of the newer stadiums that are being built, but
Speaker 1: we're still in a sport that has a lot of
Speaker 1: old stadiums. So I'm kind of with you, like I
Speaker 1: kind of want to be as an average fan sitting
Speaker 1: on the twenty three yard line kind of up high.
Speaker 1: I still want to feel pampered. I still want it
Speaker 1: to be a nice experience, and so yes, it's nice
Speaker 1: having a huge screen to watch replays of I don't
Speaker 1: want the you know, the the Jerry World screen, but
Speaker 1: I want a nice experience. And I'm just I think
Speaker 1: I want a three thirty local or whatever some a
Speaker 1: mid afternoon kick in late September would be my ideal.
Speaker 1: All we really want is.
Speaker 2: To not be hassled. That's what it comes down.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, the ins and outs are. If they're a pain,
Speaker 1: that's a problem. And so yeah, I want I want
Speaker 1: thoughtful pampering. That's where I'm at right now with going
Speaker 1: back to college games, because I just I love as
Speaker 1: as good as an experience that can be had at
Speaker 1: a at a football game, which is not a great lie.
Speaker 1: I've sports and a lot of just because of the
Speaker 1: starts and stops it's a much better TV sport right now,
Speaker 1: sort of the opposite of hockey in that way. Hockey
Speaker 1: doesn't really translate to TV as well as it does
Speaker 1: in person because of the constant action. Yeah, I want
Speaker 1: thoughtful pampering from a stadium and got it. That's all
Speaker 1: I want. And if it's parking, if it's concourses, if
Speaker 1: it's bathrooms, if it's you know, good local food stalls
Speaker 1: and things of that nature within the stadium, you know,
Speaker 1: like they have an NBA Arenas now and some better
Speaker 1: of the the newer NFL stadiums. That's what I want.
Speaker 1: That's what I want to get back to a game,
Speaker 1: because man, TVs are not expensive. They're not expensive like
Speaker 1: they used to be. So that's where I'm at. But
Speaker 1: there aren't like I haven't been to like and you,
Speaker 1: I've been to a lot of places, but you haven't
Speaker 1: been basically to every Like you've been a Notre Dame,
Speaker 1: you've been to Penn State, you've been in Georgia, you've
Speaker 1: been to some National Championship games. But like, I'm sure
Speaker 1: you're extremely curious about what it's like to go to
Speaker 1: like Kyle Field or to go to you know, death Valley,
Speaker 1: either LSU or Clempson whatever, to go to Baton Rouge,
Speaker 1: like all of these places to go to a game
Speaker 1: in the shoe. Have you been to a game in
Speaker 1: the shoe?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: No, no. So it's it's figuring out which experience is
Speaker 1: going to cater to your luxurious needs the most. I guess, so,
Speaker 1: I guess that's yeah. I think it's a good answer. TI,
Speaker 1: good answer, good answer, all right. You you like to
Speaker 1: talk about and that you used a phrase college football
Speaker 1: is better when blankety blank team is good or is
Speaker 1: relevant or is competing for a national title. That's not
Speaker 1: where I necessarily want to go with this question. But
Speaker 1: here are the following teams are teams that have they've
Speaker 1: had recent success, big success, but also finished with losing
Speaker 1: records in twenty twenty one. Okay, LSU, USC Florida, Auburn, Washington, Northwestern. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't know if Northwestern is big success, but they
Speaker 1: won the West the year before, TCU, Texas, Florida State, Louisville. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: who of those teams that have been down or have
Speaker 1: been recently down? They haven't It all changed the way
Speaker 1: that you view the sport. Like you're like, well, they're bad,
Speaker 1: but I still I'm happy with where things are whatever,
Speaker 1: and who being down has made you long for the
Speaker 1: like the good old days of when they were good.
Speaker 1: Of those teams that, yeah, we're pretty down in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty one. Florida State.
Speaker 2: Florida State to me as we were growing up, and
Speaker 2: I mean you've talked about this more than I have,
Speaker 2: but some of those old Florida State teams were I mean,
Speaker 2: they made an imprint on us as college football fans. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and you know you've talked about it. It's a big
Speaker 2: part of why you're a college football fan at all.
Speaker 2: Some of those Florida He's the root for Florida State,
Speaker 2: if I remember correctly, yep. And so to see that
Speaker 2: program kind of in a state of limbo and be
Speaker 2: very uncertain. Of course, they were on the precipice of
Speaker 2: making a bowl past season before they lost to Florida
Speaker 2: in that final game, but just the constant uncertainty surrounding
Speaker 2: that program has really been I don't know, that to
Speaker 2: me has definitely been a big time bummer over the
Speaker 2: last couple of seasons. So, you know, teams that make
Speaker 2: me yearn for the good old days I'm not big
Speaker 2: on the good old days thing. I think that's mostly BS.
Speaker 2: But to answer the question, I think Florida State is
Speaker 2: probably my answer there. I'm desperate for Florida State to
Speaker 2: rise up again and kind of reclaim former glory.
Speaker 1: As as for teams that.
Speaker 2: You know, them being down has not necessarily changed. I
Speaker 2: think a lot of these teams frankly, like Northwestern being
Speaker 2: down doesn't really leave a mark for me, okay, And
Speaker 2: it's no disrespect to Pat Fitzgerald. I just it's Northwestern football.
Speaker 2: Let's be real here, right, okay. I Florida being down
Speaker 2: doesn't really like I would like for Florida to be better.
Speaker 2: I'm hopeful that they will get there under Billion Naiper.
Speaker 2: But I would probably answer Florida just because I don't
Speaker 2: personally feel the connection to the gamers the way I
Speaker 2: know a lot of people do. So whether or not
Speaker 2: they're they're they're up there down, it doesn't really make
Speaker 2: a huge impact because George is coming out of the
Speaker 2: SEC East for me right now, wow, Okay, So that
Speaker 2: one doesn't doesn't really change the way I see the
Speaker 2: sport as much as it might some other folks.
Speaker 1: You know, I think Louisville falls into.
Speaker 2: The same category as Northwestern TCU. These are programs that
Speaker 2: I'm interested in, but ultimately them being down.
Speaker 1: And you've had an emotional relationship with TCU.
Speaker 2: I just I'm they're dead to me. Okay, Wow, they're
Speaker 2: dead to me at this point. Okay, So those are
Speaker 2: teams that them being down hasn't really affected the way
Speaker 2: that I feel about this as a whole, hasn't affected
Speaker 2: the vibe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so okay, of these teams, Florida State being really
Speaker 1: really good again to me, would be the best for
Speaker 1: the whatever sport, whatever it means, the sport of college
Speaker 1: football because of the imbalance and the UH I guess,
Speaker 1: the inconsistencies, the Clemson dominance of the ACC that there
Speaker 1: needs to be a rivalry within the ACC, and Miami
Speaker 1: really hasn't done it within the conference, you know, strung
Speaker 1: together a number of successful seasons in the way that
Speaker 1: Florida State and like the you know, early twenty tens
Speaker 1: was able to do. So Florida State would be the best.
Speaker 1: But viscerally and visually I need big games at Death Valley,
Speaker 1: I need big games at LSU. I need that for
Speaker 1: me for the sport to be at its absolute best
Speaker 1: and Florida State being great would be terrific. And Auburn
Speaker 1: holding up there end of the bargain in the I
Speaker 1: and that would be great. You know, TCU as sort
Speaker 1: of a big city counterpoint to Oklahoma, at least in
Speaker 1: the next couple of years. However, long Loclahoma is still
Speaker 1: give me the big twelve, that's great. And you know
Speaker 1: tc was you know, playoff ish, you know that's a
Speaker 1: sore subject in twenty fourteen or whatever. So those I
Speaker 1: can appreciate all of those. LSU and similarly Florida. I
Speaker 1: need for there to be big games in the swamp.
Speaker 1: I need the swamp to matter. And it sucks when
Speaker 1: Florida is bad to me. It sucks when LC was
Speaker 1: bad to me, because those are unique places within the
Speaker 1: sport that I just need. Esthetically, I need those schools
Speaker 1: to win ten games a year. I just do. I
Speaker 1: mean for the sake of their rivalry games, for the
Speaker 1: sake of Liceubama, for the sake of Florida, Georgia, whatever,
Speaker 1: I need it. So those are the games to me
Speaker 1: that them being down, them being nowhere near Must See
Speaker 1: TV has affected the sport. To me, there were a
Speaker 1: great number of Florida people that.
Speaker 2: Dunked on Notre Dame going four and eight.
Speaker 1: You can just say Spencer Hall's name.
Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm not even talking about Spencer. There are
Speaker 2: a lot of Florida pa not just It's not just
Speaker 2: one person. Yeah, okay, there were a great number of Florida.
Speaker 1: People who dunked on Notre Dame going fournate.
Speaker 2: And I never really forgot that.
Speaker 1: And you took that personally, Michael Jordan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I never it just it never. I never was
Speaker 2: able to wash that down.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: So Florida being in a perpetual state of like mediocrity, yeah,
Speaker 2: I could deal with that. I'd be okay with that
Speaker 2: for some period of time, not rooting for it per se,
Speaker 2: like BILLI Napier a lot. Actually, I think it's a
Speaker 2: great hire. But you know, Emory Jones is leaving now
Speaker 2: and it's gonna be Anthony Richardson's team. They don't have
Speaker 2: a whole lot of quarterback depth, a bunch of questions.
Speaker 2: I think they'll get better.
Speaker 1: But I don't know, like we could be we could
Speaker 1: be here for a little.
Speaker 2: Bit yet before the ship turns around in Gainesville.
Speaker 1: Well, the interesting thing to me about Florida, Florida State
Speaker 1: and Miami with how much talent comes out of that
Speaker 1: state and how much that state and we talked about this,
Speaker 1: I think with Brandon Huffman a few weeks ago how
Speaker 1: much that state's been rated so Georgia, Alabama. Recently Texas
Speaker 1: A and M like a lot of top kids have
Speaker 1: left the state and the coaching hires have been suspected
Speaker 1: best with those three places recently, between you know, Manny Diaz,
Speaker 1: the short lived tenure of Mark Richt, Willie Taggert, obviously,
Speaker 1: Jim mckawaine, will must Champ, We're not able to sustain success.
Speaker 1: Dan Mullen was not able to get it done in
Speaker 1: the recruiting trail and in the locker room. That that
Speaker 1: state could be a fascinating counterbalance if those three schools
Speaker 1: got their collective acts together to the rest of the sport.
Speaker 1: The complaint that Alabama has dominated in unforeseen ways, the
Speaker 1: fact that you know, Texas A and M is loading up.
Speaker 1: Georgia has loaded up with the number of classes that
Speaker 1: they've loaded up in no smart small part due to
Speaker 1: the Sunshine State. Like I almost feel as if they,
Speaker 1: like you know, when an animal goes extinct or is
Speaker 1: over hunted or something like. It affects the ecosystem, right,
Speaker 1: there's a certain balance, and there is something about that
Speaker 1: with the Florida schools that I feel like has tipped
Speaker 1: the balance into weird ways within the sport, especially the
Speaker 1: SEC and Clemson obviously has done a very successful job
Speaker 1: in Florida as well. That it's almost like they could
Speaker 1: be the mongoose the honey badger, right, that is the
Speaker 1: one apex predator to this one animal, this cobra or
Speaker 1: whatever that's destroying everything in the ecosystem. That's where I
Speaker 1: think Florida can, the state of Florida can really help
Speaker 1: to to restore certain amounts of balance within the sport
Speaker 1: if I'm serious about that. Like its just I see
Speaker 1: you nodding, you're not laughing at me. I think you
Speaker 1: might agree with me that there is something to those
Speaker 1: schools collectively being down and other schools coming in and
Speaker 1: loading up rosters in new ways. I don't know, I
Speaker 1: think there's something there. No, yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't disagree with that. I just like the word
Speaker 2: mongoose so much an apex predator. On the show, we
Speaker 2: These did a couple of times now I might have
Speaker 2: to start using that more.
Speaker 1: Is a mongoose known as an apex predator? Does a
Speaker 1: mongoose have a natural enemy?
Speaker 2: I would assume something's bigger than a mongoose that could
Speaker 2: take it out, But they're so.
Speaker 1: Okay, So snakes the natural enemy of the mongoose, especially
Speaker 1: the cobra, but the mongoos is obviously quick enough to
Speaker 1: hunt them. Mongoose has a speed and agility on its
Speaker 1: side when fighting a cobra, but it is not immune
Speaker 1: to the deadly venom. Sure, cobras can go up to
Speaker 1: twelve feet and eat small mammals like the mongoose. Okay,
Speaker 1: but the mongoose is putting up a fight. Sure, the
Speaker 1: mongoose has has the physical traits, and same goes for
Speaker 1: the honey badger. With the honey badgers were abled, you
Speaker 1: know the viciousness of the honey badger. Right, So yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know if a mongoose is an apex, but
Speaker 1: a certain Liam neeson a certain set of skills, right
Speaker 1: all right? Next topic, okay, tie, similar to my question
Speaker 1: to you with the car dealership, what would it take
Speaker 1: for me to get you into PAC twelve football? In
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. But define get me into you live in
Speaker 1: eastern Pennsylvania. Correct, you have no natural reason if you
Speaker 1: weren't doing what you did for a living, what you
Speaker 1: do for a living to watch Pack twelve football. The
Speaker 1: game started in opportune times, both because of how late
Speaker 1: they start and sometimes weeknights, and just that the network
Speaker 1: that is difficult to obtain what this fall would get
Speaker 1: you watching noticeably more Pack twelve football than what I
Speaker 1: assume you currently watch because you don't really have even
Speaker 1: doing what you do, you don't really have good reason
Speaker 1: to watch ASU Coal to watch UCLA Wazoo.
Speaker 2: Well, we have two really good reasons the first two
Speaker 2: weeks of the year because opening weekend, we've got Oregon
Speaker 2: against Georgia. Yeah, the Dan Lanning Bowl, if you will.
Speaker 2: That's a really interesting game. Georgia should still be loaded
Speaker 2: to the teeth, and I would presume we'll be will
Speaker 2: be a nice favorite against Oregon, but who knows. Sure,
Speaker 2: So if Oregon pulls the upset there and knocks off
Speaker 2: Georgia week one, Okay, now I'm starting to think, well,
Speaker 2: this Oregon team could be contented.
Speaker 1: Well, that's not a Pack twelve game.
Speaker 2: That's not a pack twelve game, but it's a Pac
Speaker 2: twelve team. And secondly, to build on that, the following week,
Speaker 2: we have another Pack twelve team in action in a
Speaker 2: non conference game against an SEC opponent, Utah against Florida.
Speaker 2: So and Utah should be pretty good again this year.
Speaker 2: So where I'm going with this is if on back
Speaker 2: to back weeks we have Pack twelve teams knocking off
Speaker 2: SEE opponents, now I'm starting to think this conference could
Speaker 2: be for real. The teams at the top of this
Speaker 2: conference could be for real. There is a game later
Speaker 2: on in the year between USC and Notre Dame which
Speaker 2: I think can further validate maybe the PAC twelve's role,
Speaker 2: Pack twelve's place on the pecking order, if you will.
Speaker 2: As we go into twenty twenty two and start to
Speaker 2: evaluate and look at how these things are going to
Speaker 2: shake out. What I think could help, more than anything
Speaker 2: get me into quote unquote into Pac twelve football is
Speaker 2: feeling like there is a Pac twelve team that is legit.
Speaker 2: I would like to see a team that first off,
Speaker 2: can win a big non conference game, whether that's Oregon
Speaker 2: or Utah or USC at some point, I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's the first thing. The second thing is I'd like
Speaker 2: to see somebody who could really legitimately play good defense,
Speaker 2: really physical defense. Sure, for a while, that's been Utah's lane,
Speaker 2: that's been their music.
Speaker 1: We've had some We've had Washington right, Washington Field some
Speaker 1: really good defenses over the past five seven years. I
Speaker 1: don't know how much Washington you watch though, No, I.
Speaker 2: Haven't watched much at all. Yeah, Utah, you know that
Speaker 2: the defense was not up to snuff.
Speaker 1: This past year. It just wasn't as good.
Speaker 2: But nonetheless, I think those two factors are are paramount
Speaker 2: need to be able to beat a big non conference
Speaker 2: opponent early, we'll have an opportunity to see that. And
Speaker 2: then secondly, I'd like to see a team play defense
Speaker 2: because if they play defense, I feel like they're legit.
Speaker 1: Those two factors. If I feel like there.
Speaker 2: Is a legit contender in the Pac twelve, or if
Speaker 2: it just seems like there are a bunch of high
Speaker 2: level teams, even if they're beating each other up, that
Speaker 2: makes it interesting to me. That makes it interesting to me,
Speaker 2: And suddenly staying up late on a Saturday evening to
Speaker 2: watch those games at my own peril because of what
Speaker 2: we need to do on a Sunday morning. Suddenly, that's
Speaker 2: that's more of an interesting proposition to me.
Speaker 1: To me, it's styles make fights. To me, it is
Speaker 1: when you look at when the PAC twelve has been
Speaker 1: the most interesting, which was probably around nine to twelve
Speaker 1: somewhere in there, which I know obviously I have a
Speaker 1: coincide with Chip Kelly. But forget about Oregon. You look
Speaker 1: at Stanford's style, Washington State starting, you know, twenty twelve,
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, whatever is Mike Leach jumped in there. You
Speaker 1: have an air raid, you have the speedy spread that
Speaker 1: Oregon's running. You have Stanford mashing guys, you have Utah
Speaker 1: mashing teams. You have a wild card ASU that's running
Speaker 1: a wide open you know, passing based offense. You know
Speaker 1: what Taylor Kelly and Mike Bercovici guys like that where
Speaker 1: you have these stylistic offenses where you become curious about
Speaker 1: what they look like when matched up against each other.
Speaker 1: And right now I don't. I mean, we've got a
Speaker 1: ton of new coaches. We have what a second year
Speaker 1: coach at Arizona, new coach org new coach Washington, new
Speaker 1: coach Washington State, new coach USC of course, you have
Speaker 1: a ton of new coaches and a ton of mysteries
Speaker 1: about what those offenses specifically will look like. So I
Speaker 1: think that's that's probably what would do it for the
Speaker 1: most people is known brands and styles up and down
Speaker 1: the conference, not just what the best team in the
Speaker 1: conference can do in the first week in September. I
Speaker 1: think wouldn't that have you more likely totally? I'm not
Speaker 1: even saying like a national championship contender, Like if Washington
Speaker 1: State we're scoring forty five a game and USC were
Speaker 1: scoring forty five a game, it wasn't a top five matchup,
Speaker 1: but it was number twelve versus number sixteen, you'd be like, oh,
Speaker 1: I am curious about who wins this like firepower field
Speaker 1: matchup more so than you currently are. I assume, oh
Speaker 1: for sure.
Speaker 2: Okay, No, I think that goes without saying Dan. I
Speaker 2: mean styles, as you said, definitely make fights. And you know,
Speaker 2: there's a reason that outside of all the winning, there's
Speaker 2: a reason that Boise State has been very interesting over
Speaker 2: the last fifteen years. Right, They're just they're creative mm hmm.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think there's definitely an element of that.
Speaker 2: I'll also tell you this because of the coaching turnover,
Speaker 2: and I'm going to talk about Lincoln Riley here. There's
Speaker 2: definitely an injection of star power to the Pac twelve.
Speaker 2: And if us C goes out there and if they
Speaker 2: look legit, if they look tougher, if they're not missing tackles,
Speaker 2: it's not getting blown off the line. If it feels
Speaker 2: like a USC team is going to be legit, then
Speaker 2: then that's interesting to me. Right, that's interesting. That makes
Speaker 2: the Pac twelve a little bit more interesting. And perhaps
Speaker 2: we don't pan the USC games like we would on
Speaker 2: a Saturday afternoon through mid October. Perhaps there's a reason
Speaker 2: to watch. So I think what I'm saying is give
Speaker 2: me a reason to watch, and I'll watch. I'm not
Speaker 2: averse to watching Pac twelve football. We just haven't had
Speaker 2: a really good reason to do so, at least from
Speaker 2: the standpoint of the national conversation. Right, they've just not
Speaker 2: have not really been a factor.
Speaker 1: The star power either has to come from a coach,
Speaker 1: a system, or a It doesn't have to be a quarterback.
Speaker 1: You meet Christian McCaffrey. Christian McCaffrey gave everybody in the
Speaker 1: country reason to watch Stanford games to a lesser extent
Speaker 1: Bryce Love, who would either run for one hundred and
Speaker 1: eighty three yards on three carries or seventeen yards. But
Speaker 1: you need that star power. You need Khalil Tate, you
Speaker 1: need Christian McCaffrey, you need Mark ease Lee, you need
Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota. You need those names because it's very difficult
Speaker 1: to build out those names when you're inherently on a
Speaker 1: different coast, you're a different time zone, you're in a
Speaker 1: different starting time PAC twelve needs star power, needs recruiters,
Speaker 1: needs to keep talent home and sort of build that out.
Speaker 1: And that's I think that's ultimately what it's going to take. Yeah,
Speaker 1: next question, next question. In twenty twenty two, Ty, you
Speaker 1: mentioned Boise State. Maybe that's your answer. You have to
Speaker 1: select a group of five teams who did not win
Speaker 1: double digit games in twenty twenty one to fully dive
Speaker 1: into bed with Who is that team and why diving
Speaker 1: into bed with so no Coastal Carolina, no Fresno State, Right,
Speaker 1: no Cincinnati. I kind of think it's ucf okay going
Speaker 1: to the bounce house. Yeah, I kind of think it's
Speaker 1: ucf okay. I was impressed with the job that Gus
Speaker 1: Melzon did last year. I was impressed because they lost
Speaker 1: their quarterback fairly early. They had to rebuild things, reconstitute
Speaker 1: it with Mikey Keane, who was young and inexperienced and
Speaker 1: had some limitations in his game. But they still won
Speaker 1: nine games. They still played hard, I believe won their
Speaker 1: bowl game as well. So this is not a team
Speaker 1: that gave up, despite the fact that they had some
Speaker 1: key injuries, notably their quarterback. I like gust In that situation,
Speaker 1: to be honest with the I think that he's always
Speaker 1: proven himself to be a more creative play caller, run
Speaker 1: a more creative offense. Right We saw that for years
Speaker 1: at Auburn, somewhat sometimes sometimes sometimes not all the time,
Speaker 1: but sometimes I think he'll be able to recruit, you know,
Speaker 1: great athletes at UCF for sure. You know Florida's going
Speaker 1: for that, guys who are very versatile, who can plug
Speaker 1: and play and you know, get him in space. I
Speaker 1: think his offense is predicated a lot on that, and
Speaker 1: I also think that it's in a very winnable conference.
Speaker 1: You know, UCF maybe isn't long for their current setup
Speaker 1: because they're going to go over to the Big twelve whenever,
Speaker 1: but you know there's gonna be some drop off now
Speaker 1: with Cincinnati losing a good chunk of its guys to
Speaker 1: the NFL. I think the conference is there for the taking,
Speaker 1: and UCF's got a lot to build on from last season.
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm pretty gung ho.
Speaker 2: I haven't done the preview work yet, you know, it's still,
Speaker 2: of course, still a little early for that, but I
Speaker 2: feel like there's enough coming back, and there's at least
Speaker 2: enough of a foundation after one year of malson that
Speaker 2: I'm pretty bullish on on UCF.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you don't have to be bullish on
Speaker 1: a team just for whatever reason get into bed with
Speaker 1: I'm going Boise. I'm going Boise because of I like
Speaker 1: Andy Avlos, I like the unique quality of Boise. I
Speaker 1: like Mountain West football. I mean, honestly, if I could
Speaker 1: pick a team with double digits, it might be San
Speaker 1: Diego State just because of Southern California, new stadium, and
Speaker 1: I think they should be into the right under the
Speaker 1: right circumstances, be able to attract, especially in the portal era,
Speaker 1: a good amount of talent, especially you know, guys leaving
Speaker 1: the PAC twelve or whatever. So Boise Is at Oregon
Speaker 1: State this year, also at UTEP. It appears so Boise
Speaker 1: has in twenty twenty three. They're going I guess I
Speaker 1: only said for twenty twenty one, but they have Washington
Speaker 1: and UCF Washington Husky Stadium, So like in the next
Speaker 1: couple of years, they have really interesting non conference opponents.
Speaker 1: They're playing Oregon State and Oregon in twenty twenty four,
Speaker 1: so they're playing in bigger games in September. They've got
Speaker 1: a younger head coach who should improve that defense, and
Speaker 1: especially this coming year. I think Hammer and Hank Bockmeier's back, right,
Speaker 1: so experience QB George Alani got you know, They're just like,
Speaker 1: there are guys there that are I think going to
Speaker 1: take leaps in year two of the Andy avlos aera.
Speaker 1: I still like how quickly they play with that what's
Speaker 1: his name, Tim Timplow, Tim Plow, the offensive coordinator yep.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. They're really intriguing to me. Still,
Speaker 1: Boise State. I just don't sleep on the broncos is.
Speaker 1: I don't have their exact Mountain West schedule in front
Speaker 1: of me this year. I don't have any of that,
Speaker 1: and I don't know if they're going ten and two
Speaker 1: or six and six or whatever. I just there are
Speaker 1: enough pieces there and enough narratives that I can get
Speaker 1: on board with that. I think it's it's Boise State
Speaker 1: within the Mountain West.
Speaker 2: Smurf Turf.
Speaker 1: All right, I like smurf Turf. I have a non
Speaker 1: college football question for you, Ty, and you can go
Speaker 1: in a number of directions with this. Okay, so you're
Speaker 1: now a man forty I am, and now that you
Speaker 1: are living in the skin of a forty year old tie,
Speaker 1: Oh god, where are we going? What advice would you
Speaker 1: give to people of younger generations myself included obviously younger
Speaker 1: generation here, I guess in terms of what you wished
Speaker 1: you either accomplished or saw or experience or able to do. Physically,
Speaker 1: you're not in your best shape in terms of your joints, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm okay, you got a bum shoulder?
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 1: Ah, you can't really do push ups right now, could you? No?
Speaker 2: I could do push ups?
Speaker 1: Oh you do push ups? Yeah?
Speaker 2: If I do too many of them, then yeah, my
Speaker 2: shoulder starts to feel like it's going to fall apart.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying regrets, but I'm saying if you had
Speaker 1: a blueprint for a twenty eight year old right now,
Speaker 1: and what would you tell him or her about, Like, look,
Speaker 1: you're not always going to be twenty eight, right right.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can say I'm glad I
Speaker 1: did this, or I'm bummed I didn't do this sooner,
Speaker 1: or I'm bummed I still haven't done this. What is
Speaker 1: it that you say before you because like you're I mean,
Speaker 1: you're not boring, but you're a full on grown up,
Speaker 1: right You have a mortgage, like you have that you
Speaker 1: have responsibilities that you didn't necessarily have when you were
Speaker 1: twenty eight. That's right, you have to you have to
Speaker 1: live a life not just for you, but for a spouse.
Speaker 2: You You ask this question hoping for some sort of
Speaker 2: new information for me, but you know I will probably
Speaker 2: let you down with this answer.
Speaker 1: No, I'm gonna still prod continue.
Speaker 2: I should have quit my job a long time ago. Okay,
Speaker 2: I should have quit my job. And actually that would
Speaker 2: be my advice, my advice to people. If you are
Speaker 2: twenty eight, pull the trigger, pull the trigger twenty years.
Speaker 1: If you're miserable, or if if you're not, you know,
Speaker 1: if you if you have the freedom to do so
Speaker 1: that's correct.
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't just like go in willy nilly and say,
Speaker 2: you know what, I'm gonna do this. Instead, I have
Speaker 2: no experience and I'm just gonna.
Speaker 1: Like we're do it.
Speaker 2: You know, get set yourself up in the best position
Speaker 2: possible before you make the jump. But yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: there are a lot of people who go into into
Speaker 2: the office every day. I can say this now because
Speaker 2: I was. I was kind of in that in that mode.
Speaker 2: There are a lot of folks that go into the
Speaker 2: office and just sort of go through the motions. And
Speaker 2: I love the people I worked with. I to an extent,
Speaker 2: loved the stuff that I did. I'm doing a lot
Speaker 2: of the same stuff for you and me now, so
Speaker 2: I it is stuff that I have always enjoyed. But
Speaker 2: I don't know that it's definitely a different feel now
Speaker 2: when you're doing it for yourself as opposed to doing
Speaker 2: it for the man. So if you're in a situation
Speaker 2: that you don't feel you're getting anything out of at
Speaker 2: this point, m hmm. My advice to the twenty eight
Speaker 2: year old whoever would be strongly reconsider because there are
Speaker 2: other opportunities out there. Do you wish you had traveled more,
Speaker 2: I think, so, yeah, there's time for that. Last couple
Speaker 2: of years been weird. No one's really traveled, but right, well.
Speaker 1: More and more now. But yeah, did you have opportunities
Speaker 1: that you turned down? Opportunities like what like did were
Speaker 1: you ever invited to go to Italy? And You're like,
Speaker 1: I've got a work thing, I can't really go.
Speaker 2: I was invited to go to a European wedding in Poland,
Speaker 2: which I was unable to go to. But I'm not
Speaker 2: going to say I have any like real regrets about
Speaker 2: not going to that one. It's not like tropical got
Speaker 2: married in Poland a paradise or anything.
Speaker 1: Who's getting married in Poland?
Speaker 2: A college friend?
Speaker 1: Okay, is he from or she from Poland?
Speaker 2: She is?
Speaker 1: Oh she's from Poland. Yeah that would make sense.
Speaker 2: My friends then fiance was from Poland.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So I.
Speaker 2: Had the opportunity to do that, didn't go. But beyond that,
Speaker 2: not really just have not made it a priority.
Speaker 1: Frankly, gotcha? So yeah, man, didn't see the Poland answer
Speaker 1: like just waks up on you. It just steaks up
Speaker 1: on you sometimes. All right, Yeah, I definitely I've traveled some,
Speaker 1: but I definitely haven't traveled enough. I definitely regret that.
Speaker 1: I regret not playing more rex sports in my twenties.
Speaker 1: How long were you single after college? Single after like
Speaker 1: you dated people, so it's not like it's not like
Speaker 1: you've been with Kate since you were twenty one?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: So, how long were you single and dating but not
Speaker 1: in a relationship from what age to what age or
Speaker 1: what gaps?
Speaker 2: Probably until I was about twenty eight, So.
Speaker 1: Twenty one to twenty eight were you all? No? Until
Speaker 1: you so? Were you in a relationship in college with anybody?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: High school?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't know that. We've been podcasting for fourteen years.
Speaker 1: I didn't know either of those things. No, Okay, do
Speaker 1: you wish you had been in a relationship in college
Speaker 1: or high school? Not really? Really? Yeah, I was in
Speaker 1: a complicated situation in college which then became a real
Speaker 1: situation in my twenties, and in a relationship in high
Speaker 1: school for a couple of years. I think I'm all right.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I I'm fine without it.
Speaker 1: I don't know it worked out. I'm good. The pitch
Speaker 1: of your voice getting higher, that's fine, don't feeling good? No? No,
Speaker 1: I'm all right, twenty it's a good age. Twenty eight
Speaker 1: is when I moved to New York and was single
Speaker 1: for I don't know, two three years, two two and
Speaker 1: a half years or something like that in New York.
Speaker 1: But I was with somebody most of my twenties, which
Speaker 1: was fine. But I'm glad I had that experience after
Speaker 1: that in New York. In terms of other things I
Speaker 1: wish i'd I'd love to have done more strength training
Speaker 1: what I had. We could still get yoked. We can't
Speaker 1: get yoked. We can get yoked.
Speaker 2: We need to find a gym or we can push
Speaker 2: the sleds around. That's what we gotta If we can
Speaker 2: find the gym, yeah, one in Chicago, one here and
Speaker 2: wherever I'm at, Yeah we could.
Speaker 1: We could.
Speaker 2: We could set that up and by the time it
Speaker 2: comes to like the season, you know, maybe we could
Speaker 2: try out for a D three team. We still got eligibility.
Speaker 1: Would Are there any like bucket list physical accomplishments like
Speaker 1: do you want to bungee jump? Do you want to
Speaker 1: run a marathon or a half marathon or a triathlon
Speaker 1: or an iron Man?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: Or no physical accomplishments.
Speaker 2: Like unless you're talking about golf, scores. The answer is
Speaker 2: probably no.
Speaker 1: What's the what you want to? What break par.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that would probably be the goal, Okay, yeah.
Speaker 1: But nothing else In terms of like what people put
Speaker 1: on their bucket list, I don't think so. No, I've
Speaker 1: really I just I don't. You don't want, like to
Speaker 1: swim in Lake Minnetonka, Like are there any places you
Speaker 1: would like to And I'm not saying like, you know,
Speaker 1: run a five minute mile. That's purify yourself in the
Speaker 1: waters of Lake Minetanga. That's Prince Minnesota, Minneapolis, yea land
Speaker 1: of ten thousand lakes, So like nothing like do you
Speaker 1: have do you want to get up on a surfboard?
Speaker 1: Do you want to do you want to swim with
Speaker 1: blue whales in Tonga? You got to have some sort
Speaker 1: of physical But I think I have a physical bucket list.
Speaker 1: I really don't think I have. Really I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't think I I just I'm not good at this
Speaker 1: type of thing. Do you want to draw? Do you
Speaker 1: want to like take a fast car around the Audubah Like,
Speaker 1: I mean that's not technically physical in the same way
Speaker 1: as like diving with the blue whales in Tonga, But like,
Speaker 1: do you want to take a ferrari or something like
Speaker 1: that out there. Do you want to learn how to
Speaker 1: fly a plane? I don't want to do any speed boating.
Speaker 1: I don't care a sailing. I like boats.
Speaker 2: I don't want to do any of the stuff. I
Speaker 2: don't care scuba diving in a shipwreck, no, nothing, No,
Speaker 2: I don't want to do any of this stuff.
Speaker 1: You want to grow an herb garden? You want to
Speaker 1: start small here? No?
Speaker 2: No, no, no no.
Speaker 1: You don't want to attend to a garden? No no,
Speaker 1: I don't. I like the idea of a garden more
Speaker 1: than I like the idea of tending to the garden.
Speaker 1: All I really want is to not be hassled. No,
Speaker 1: I hear you. That's really all I care about. Oh man,
Speaker 1: this is where you and I and our brains diverge.
Speaker 1: I want to be dunking basketball's I mean? I want
Speaker 1: to cool.
Speaker 2: I will never dunk a basketball.
Speaker 1: That's I would want it to. I would love to.
Speaker 1: Why Why are you saying that?
Speaker 2: Because I'm forty, I'm not going to be able to
Speaker 2: dunk a basketball. If I couldn't do it before, I'm not.
Speaker 1: Going to do it now. We gotta get some aspirations
Speaker 1: in that brain. There's a lot of aspirations in his brain.
Speaker 2: I'm just not interested aund podcasting to heat Tongo wherever. Okay,
Speaker 2: so what talk to me about your boat goals? My
Speaker 2: boat said, you're into boats.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well there's not a lot of water around here,
Speaker 1: so that makes it hard. Oh, I'm not talking about
Speaker 1: while and palm pak or whatever? Is that what it
Speaker 1: was in the like do you want to do you
Speaker 1: want to be like open linen shirt on the Adriatic?
Speaker 1: What is what is your dream boating situation? Dream boating situations?
Speaker 1: Like do you want to go whale watching? Do you
Speaker 1: want to like one of those like speedboats that go
Speaker 1: crazy fast? Do you want to be yah like an
Speaker 1: America's Cup type yacht race? What is tell me about
Speaker 1: when you close your eyes, I'm not your ideal a person.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying complicated. No, I'm saying what is it?
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not I'm not.
Speaker 1: Do you want a cruise on a yacht in like
Speaker 1: a Florida like a canal? But it sounds lovely? I
Speaker 1: just oh, man, ty, I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I see this is where I'm
Speaker 2: different from you. I don't know if I have an
Speaker 2: idea of these things that I would like to do
Speaker 2: and try. I would just sort of like to to
Speaker 2: to do cool things, but I don't. I'm going to
Speaker 2: edit most of this out.
Speaker 1: There's no way you should be doing that. I don't
Speaker 1: leave this all in, but.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make myself sound boring. I'm not interested in
Speaker 2: any of these things.
Speaker 1: He's honest. I'm not his honest. This is I would
Speaker 1: love to go boating. I'd love it. I'd love I'm
Speaker 1: planting a seed.
Speaker 2: I'd love to go somewhere cool, but where I don't care.
Speaker 1: I'm very indifferent. You can select one college football media
Speaker 1: member to go to the French Riviera with. Can't be me?
Speaker 1: Go to the French Riviera and on a yacht you
Speaker 1: can jump off into the into the sea. Does that
Speaker 1: sound appealing to you? You and Ralph Russo on the
Speaker 1: French Riviera.
Speaker 2: Ralph Russo seems like he's got a lot of He
Speaker 2: would probably have the right amount of energy for something
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: You think so, I think so. I think it might
Speaker 1: be a liability. I like Ralph same. Who would I
Speaker 1: go with? That's such a good question. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Ari Ari. Probably he's into super ritzy stuffy. It's probably
Speaker 1: in the French riviera. It might be a little too
Speaker 1: rich for my blood though, that's that's fair. No, But
Speaker 1: I'm saying, does that sound like French riviera yacht right?
Speaker 1: You know, go down to Monte Carlo.
Speaker 2: That sounds fun. I could do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Yeah, I'm glad we could figure out one
Speaker 1: boat goal for you. It's a super goal. I don't
Speaker 1: have any of these goals, Dy, We got to have
Speaker 1: something here.
Speaker 2: Look, I quit my job last year. That was a
Speaker 2: big deal.
Speaker 1: I'm still working up to these other goals now that
Speaker 1: I have time to do. So now you gotta think big.
Speaker 2: We can start start by breaking par sure, and then
Speaker 2: we can aspire to bigger and better things with respect
Speaker 2: to travel and boats and planes and uh dive in
Speaker 2: for whales or whatever. But for now, I'm starting small
Speaker 2: and we'll work.
Speaker 1: Up to it. You want to take down the niche marrow?
Speaker 1: You want to get on the sea shepherd? Is that
Speaker 1: a boat goal? What was it's the uh? Who was
Speaker 1: the the celebrity that donated the bridget Bardo? There was
Speaker 1: the bridge of Bardot? Was it was there a Bob Barker.
Speaker 1: There was It was the Bob Barker. Yeah, the Bob Barker.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Wanning, Yeah, that seems like a terrible boat
Speaker 1: that's horrible. Best show ever. Oh yeah, Whale War is terrific. Peter,
Speaker 1: let's say stars card. What's Peter Hammerstead Yeah, Peter the
Speaker 1: hammer Hammer said, Man, you got to do better with
Speaker 1: boat goals. There's so many.
Speaker 2: Look solid verbal at gmail dot com. If you have
Speaker 2: a peg boat goals, let us know.
Speaker 1: I would love for us to do a show on
Speaker 1: a boat at some point, which we technically recorded on
Speaker 1: the New York City Ferry, I believe audio that.
Speaker 2: Wasn't a full show and people did look at us
Speaker 2: like we were weird. That would actually be a cool
Speaker 2: boat goal because we've done one in did youkuz? But
Speaker 2: to do one on a body of water like you're
Speaker 2: in chicag you got to know somebody with a nice boat.
Speaker 1: I'm not doing domestic I'm not doing a domestic show
Speaker 1: with you, Ty. We're going bigger than that. You're talking
Speaker 1: international waters. I want to do a Mediterranean or Adriatic
Speaker 1: somewhere in that region. Oh yeah, we want to go
Speaker 1: over do we know any oligarchs. How we get how
Speaker 1: are we doing this? Well, no, we don't need to
Speaker 1: know an oligarch anymore because all of those boats have
Speaker 1: been seized. Deals deals, deals. Yeah, I want, I want
Speaker 1: to do a show on luxurious international waters with you. Well,
Speaker 1: this show took a turn. Solid verb. I don't understand
Speaker 1: what's wrong with thinking big.
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm I'm I'm working up the thinking big again.
Speaker 1: Dan, the man, the corporate man had me down for
Speaker 1: like ten years. Let's see, let's look at the different
Speaker 1: c's that we could hit the Alborne c solid verbal
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Speaker 2: This is all I have the energy for. Is all
Speaker 2: I have the energy for today? You've really got You
Speaker 2: always do this to me. You always throw me this.
Speaker 1: Curveball that I seemingly am unprepared for. We've been doing
Speaker 1: this now for fourteen years.
Speaker 2: I'm still unprepared for that last question every time.
Speaker 1: I can't believe you haven't given serious thought to your
Speaker 1: boat goals. I just figured it. I love everybody. Everybody
Speaker 1: who's okay with boats? Well, does I understand some people
Speaker 1: don't like being on the water. That's fine, whatever, to
Speaker 1: each their own. But if somebody's into boats, there has
Speaker 1: to be a very specific boat goal that you have.
Speaker 1: I just sort of like being on the boat because
Speaker 1: I don't go on many boats here. I mean eastern Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: They're not a lot. There's not a thriving boat situation here.
Speaker 1: I like boats.
Speaker 2: Okay, maybe a cruse, maybe go on a cruise, but
Speaker 2: I've heard like mixed reviews on cruise cruise.
Speaker 1: I'm not talking ship goals, I'm talking boat goals. Well,
Speaker 1: then I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't got any boat goals.
Speaker 1: Do you ever fantasize about in long solo sales? It
Speaker 1: sounds sounds terrible.
Speaker 2: I don't want to do that.
Speaker 1: That sounds like a nightmare. But oh man, yeah, I
Speaker 1: want to get I.
Speaker 2: Don't want to like circumnavigate the globeer. I don't like
Speaker 2: you know, come on.
Speaker 1: I want the end of season two succession except you
Speaker 1: and I you know, on the Dalmatian coast of Croatia.
Speaker 2: Right right, that's all too much to ash sounds fun,
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, there's so much. We just head into split.
Speaker 1: Come on time.
Speaker 2: I'm salt of the earth. Dan, you know that I'm
Speaker 2: salt of the earth. I'm the everyman here.
Speaker 1: You're not above Croatia. I'm not above Croatia. Okay, that's it.
Speaker 1: They speaking about your boat goals. Everybody should be thinking
Speaker 1: about their boat goals moving forward. If you're into it. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't like the way.
Speaker 2: This show ended, but I'm gonna leave most of this
Speaker 2: stuff in good. People are gonna yell at me on
Speaker 2: social media for not being more prepared for this question,
Speaker 2: but I'm just saying you need to dream. I do dream, dream.
Speaker 1: I just don't care about the whales and tongue.
Speaker 2: I like whales and pro whales, but.
Speaker 1: I'm just not gonna Mercer Island off of Washington see
Speaker 1: some workahs. I would be okay with that. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: would be that would be fun. Okay. I have swum
Speaker 1: with whale sharks off the coast like that. What whale
Speaker 1: sharks they're just they're like big golden retrievers. They don't
Speaker 1: do anything, but they are sharks. They don't eat flesh.
Speaker 1: I'm just I don't eat humans. I don't listen. I
Speaker 1: went there like the big school bus.
Speaker 2: When I was in Cancun, we did one of those
Speaker 2: scuba things. Yeah, storkling wasn't even sure and they threw
Speaker 2: the food in and the tropical fish came and they
Speaker 2: were all up in your grill.
Speaker 1: I hate it. Okay, I'm not interested in it. But
Speaker 1: the whale sharks don't do that. They're just cruising around,
Speaker 1: not interested. They're sharks, it is, They're they're large. I
Speaker 1: don't need that.
Speaker 2: I don't need I can watch that on the four
Speaker 2: K TV. Like you said, they're cheap, but.
Speaker 1: They don't attack humans at all. I don't care. I
Speaker 1: can watch it on TV. What about blue whale though,
Speaker 1: and Tonga?
Speaker 2: I mean the blue whales are spectacular, Yeah, the scope
Speaker 2: of that, it's just not a goal of mine. People
Speaker 2: have stopped listening. We don't need to keep we can
Speaker 2: do I understand, I understand, but I just like get
Speaker 2: at the bottom of this with you. I like to
Speaker 2: hear your dreams because it was your dream to leave
Speaker 2: that job and you made it happen, and so let's
Speaker 2: check off another box. All right, we'll think about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tying Dan on the French riviera for that guy
Speaker 1: over there.
Speaker 2: In the Midwestern riviera that is Chicago, Illinois, for myself,
Speaker 2: Ti Hilton Brand. Thanks about your download inglisting point one
Speaker 2: at home.
Speaker 1: We will be back.
Speaker 2: Five more questions mind. For Dan, I'm going to have
Speaker 2: to come up with a sixth.
Speaker 1: That can hopefully stump him on our next episode. I
Speaker 1: would love it. In the meantime, stay solid, peace,