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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the solid verbal, boys and girls. My

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Speaker 2: spring is officially sprung Cago, Illinois, Dan Rubistetzer, how are you.

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Speaker 1: I'm great. It's high sixties today, sun is out, not

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Speaker 1: For the next four to five years of my life,

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Speaker 2: The point where it may be fair to start asking

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Speaker 2: This right now on March twenty first. As we said

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Speaker 1: Of the day. First question, Thursday, Ty is National Cocktail Day.

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Speaker 1: in a suite, would you go, I'd consider it, Oh, man,

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00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 1: come on, somebody tie a guest. Depends on the game,

436
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,920
Speaker 1: depends on the place, that depends on the weather. It depends.

437
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 1: I'd be honored. If Wisconsin Penn State were playing in

438
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 1: mid September, certainly, yes, a colder part of the year.

439
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,880
Speaker 1: I don't know I mean it depends, you know. So

440
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,639
Speaker 1: I don't need the sweet thing I need. I need parking.

441
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,959
Speaker 1: I need good company. Like if a bunch of buddies

442
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,439
Speaker 1: invited me to go to a random good game somewhere

443
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,880
Speaker 1: at a place that I either have been to and

444
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 1: like or have been curious about going to, I would

445
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 1: try to go. I would definitely try and go. I

446
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 1: think it's the people, and then I think it's the

447
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 1: ease of getting there, and then it's like I don't

448
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 1: really care about Wi Fi that much in a stadium,

449
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,920
Speaker 1: to be honest, Well that's that's a big thing. People

450
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,679
Speaker 1: don't want to be disconnected during a game. I don't know.

451
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 2: I've just always assumed that in a big stadium setting

452
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 2: like that, the WiFi is not going to work right.

453
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 2: It's just not gonna as too many people and networks.

454
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, there are certain parts of the in

455
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 1: game experience, like you want a million bathrooms. A million

456
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 1: clean bathrooms would be wonderful to have tie in a

457
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 1: perfect world, But to me, it's more just how easy,

458
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,679
Speaker 1: Like I just are going to be packed in like

459
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 1: sardines on a concourse, Like I just I want more

460
00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 1: thoughtful stadium design and I think we're getting there with

461
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:02,679
Speaker 1: some of the newer stadiums that are being built, but

462
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 1: we're still in a sport that has a lot of

463
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:08,919
Speaker 1: old stadiums. So I'm kind of with you, like I

464
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 1: kind of want to be as an average fan sitting

465
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: on the twenty three yard line kind of up high.

466
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,159
Speaker 1: I still want to feel pampered. I still want it

467
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 1: to be a nice experience, and so yes, it's nice

468
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 1: having a huge screen to watch replays of I don't

469
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,919
Speaker 1: want the you know, the the Jerry World screen, but

470
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:30,160
Speaker 1: I want a nice experience. And I'm just I think

471
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 1: I want a three thirty local or whatever some a

472
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 1: mid afternoon kick in late September would be my ideal.

473
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 1: All we really want is.

474
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 2: To not be hassled. That's what it comes down.

475
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, the ins and outs are. If they're a pain,

476
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 1: that's a problem. And so yeah, I want I want

477
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 1: thoughtful pampering. That's where I'm at right now with going

478
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 1: back to college games, because I just I love as

479
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,120
Speaker 1: as good as an experience that can be had at

480
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 1: a at a football game, which is not a great lie.

481
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 1: I've sports and a lot of just because of the

482
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,640
Speaker 1: starts and stops it's a much better TV sport right now,

483
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 1: sort of the opposite of hockey in that way. Hockey

484
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,880
Speaker 1: doesn't really translate to TV as well as it does

485
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: in person because of the constant action. Yeah, I want

486
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,879
Speaker 1: thoughtful pampering from a stadium and got it. That's all

487
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,159
Speaker 1: I want. And if it's parking, if it's concourses, if

488
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 1: it's bathrooms, if it's you know, good local food stalls

489
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 1: and things of that nature within the stadium, you know,

490
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,400
Speaker 1: like they have an NBA Arenas now and some better

491
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 1: of the the newer NFL stadiums. That's what I want.

492
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 1: That's what I want to get back to a game,

493
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 1: because man, TVs are not expensive. They're not expensive like

494
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 1: they used to be. So that's where I'm at. But

495
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 1: there aren't like I haven't been to like and you,

496
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 1: I've been to a lot of places, but you haven't

497
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: been basically to every Like you've been a Notre Dame,

498
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 1: you've been to Penn State, you've been in Georgia, you've

499
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 1: been to some National Championship games. But like, I'm sure

500
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 1: you're extremely curious about what it's like to go to

501
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 1: like Kyle Field or to go to you know, death Valley,

502
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 1: either LSU or Clempson whatever, to go to Baton Rouge,

503
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 1: like all of these places to go to a game

504
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 1: in the shoe. Have you been to a game in

505
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 1: the shoe?

506
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 2: No?

507
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 1: No, no. So it's it's figuring out which experience is

508
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: going to cater to your luxurious needs the most. I guess, so,

509
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 1: I guess that's yeah. I think it's a good answer. TI,

510
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 1: good answer, good answer, all right. You you like to

511
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,959
Speaker 1: talk about and that you used a phrase college football

512
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 1: is better when blankety blank team is good or is

513
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: relevant or is competing for a national title. That's not

514
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: where I necessarily want to go with this question. But

515
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 1: here are the following teams are teams that have they've

516
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 1: had recent success, big success, but also finished with losing

517
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:51,959
Speaker 1: records in twenty twenty one. Okay, LSU, USC Florida, Auburn, Washington, Northwestern. Now,

518
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,919
Speaker 1: I don't know if Northwestern is big success, but they

519
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 1: won the West the year before, TCU, Texas, Florida State, Louisville. Okay, okay,

520
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 1: who of those teams that have been down or have

521
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: been recently down? They haven't It all changed the way

522
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 1: that you view the sport. Like you're like, well, they're bad,

523
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 1: but I still I'm happy with where things are whatever,

524
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: and who being down has made you long for the

525
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: like the good old days of when they were good.

526
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 1: Of those teams that, yeah, we're pretty down in twenty

527
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 1: twenty one. Florida State.

528
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 2: Florida State to me as we were growing up, and

529
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 2: I mean you've talked about this more than I have,

530
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 2: but some of those old Florida State teams were I mean,

531
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 2: they made an imprint on us as college football fans. Yeah,

532
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 2: and you know you've talked about it. It's a big

533
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 2: part of why you're a college football fan at all.

534
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 2: Some of those Florida He's the root for Florida State,

535
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 2: if I remember correctly, yep. And so to see that

536
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 2: program kind of in a state of limbo and be

537
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 2: very uncertain. Of course, they were on the precipice of

538
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 2: making a bowl past season before they lost to Florida

539
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 2: in that final game, but just the constant uncertainty surrounding

540
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 2: that program has really been I don't know, that to

541
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 2: me has definitely been a big time bummer over the

542
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 2: last couple of seasons. So, you know, teams that make

543
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 2: me yearn for the good old days I'm not big

544
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 2: on the good old days thing. I think that's mostly BS.

545
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 2: But to answer the question, I think Florida State is

546
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 2: probably my answer there. I'm desperate for Florida State to

547
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 2: rise up again and kind of reclaim former glory.

548
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 1: As as for teams that.

549
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 2: You know, them being down has not necessarily changed. I

550
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 2: think a lot of these teams frankly, like Northwestern being

551
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 2: down doesn't really leave a mark for me, okay, And

552
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 2: it's no disrespect to Pat Fitzgerald. I just it's Northwestern football.

553
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 2: Let's be real here, right, okay. I Florida being down

554
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 2: doesn't really like I would like for Florida to be better.

555
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,479
Speaker 2: I'm hopeful that they will get there under Billion Naiper.

556
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 2: But I would probably answer Florida just because I don't

557
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 2: personally feel the connection to the gamers the way I

558
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 2: know a lot of people do. So whether or not

559
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 2: they're they're they're up there down, it doesn't really make

560
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 2: a huge impact because George is coming out of the

561
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 2: SEC East for me right now, wow, Okay, So that

562
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 2: one doesn't doesn't really change the way I see the

563
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 2: sport as much as it might some other folks.

564
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: You know, I think Louisville falls into.

565
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 2: The same category as Northwestern TCU. These are programs that

566
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 2: I'm interested in, but ultimately them being down.

567
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: And you've had an emotional relationship with TCU.

568
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 2: I just I'm they're dead to me. Okay, Wow, they're

569
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 2: dead to me at this point. Okay, So those are

570
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 2: teams that them being down hasn't really affected the way

571
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 2: that I feel about this as a whole, hasn't affected

572
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 2: the vibe.

573
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, so okay, of these teams, Florida State being really

574
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: really good again to me, would be the best for

575
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: the whatever sport, whatever it means, the sport of college

576
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: football because of the imbalance and the UH I guess,

577
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: the inconsistencies, the Clemson dominance of the ACC that there

578
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,719
Speaker 1: needs to be a rivalry within the ACC, and Miami

579
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: really hasn't done it within the conference, you know, strung

580
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 1: together a number of successful seasons in the way that

581
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: Florida State and like the you know, early twenty tens

582
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: was able to do. So Florida State would be the best.

583
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: But viscerally and visually I need big games at Death Valley,

584
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 1: I need big games at LSU. I need that for

585
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: me for the sport to be at its absolute best

586
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: and Florida State being great would be terrific. And Auburn

587
00:30:58,400 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: holding up there end of the bargain in the I

588
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: and that would be great. You know, TCU as sort

589
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: of a big city counterpoint to Oklahoma, at least in

590
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: the next couple of years. However, long Loclahoma is still

591
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: give me the big twelve, that's great. And you know

592
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: tc was you know, playoff ish, you know that's a

593
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: sore subject in twenty fourteen or whatever. So those I

594
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: can appreciate all of those. LSU and similarly Florida. I

595
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: need for there to be big games in the swamp.

596
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: I need the swamp to matter. And it sucks when

597
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: Florida is bad to me. It sucks when LC was

598
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: bad to me, because those are unique places within the

599
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,959
Speaker 1: sport that I just need. Esthetically, I need those schools

600
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: to win ten games a year. I just do. I

601
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: mean for the sake of their rivalry games, for the

602
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: sake of Liceubama, for the sake of Florida, Georgia, whatever,

603
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: I need it. So those are the games to me

604
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: that them being down, them being nowhere near Must See

605
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: TV has affected the sport. To me, there were a

606
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: great number of Florida people that.

607
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 2: Dunked on Notre Dame going four and eight.

608
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: You can just say Spencer Hall's name.

609
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 2: Oh no, I'm not even talking about Spencer. There are

610
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 2: a lot of Florida pa not just It's not just

611
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 2: one person. Yeah, okay, there were a great number of Florida.

612
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: People who dunked on Notre Dame going fournate.

613
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 2: And I never really forgot that.

614
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: And you took that personally, Michael Jordan.

615
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I never it just it never. I never was

616
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 2: able to wash that down.

617
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: Okay.

618
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 2: So Florida being in a perpetual state of like mediocrity, yeah,

619
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 2: I could deal with that. I'd be okay with that

620
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 2: for some period of time, not rooting for it per se,

621
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 2: like BILLI Napier a lot. Actually, I think it's a

622
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 2: great hire. But you know, Emory Jones is leaving now

623
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 2: and it's gonna be Anthony Richardson's team. They don't have

624
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 2: a whole lot of quarterback depth, a bunch of questions.

625
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 2: I think they'll get better.

626
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: But I don't know, like we could be we could

627
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: be here for a little.

628
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 2: Bit yet before the ship turns around in Gainesville.

629
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: Well, the interesting thing to me about Florida, Florida State

630
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: and Miami with how much talent comes out of that

631
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: state and how much that state and we talked about this,

632
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:13,719
Speaker 1: I think with Brandon Huffman a few weeks ago how

633
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: much that state's been rated so Georgia, Alabama. Recently Texas

634
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: A and M like a lot of top kids have

635
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: left the state and the coaching hires have been suspected

636
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: best with those three places recently, between you know, Manny Diaz,

637
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,719
Speaker 1: the short lived tenure of Mark Richt, Willie Taggert, obviously,

638
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: Jim mckawaine, will must Champ, We're not able to sustain success.

639
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: Dan Mullen was not able to get it done in

640
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: the recruiting trail and in the locker room. That that

641
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: state could be a fascinating counterbalance if those three schools

642
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: got their collective acts together to the rest of the sport.

643
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: The complaint that Alabama has dominated in unforeseen ways, the

644
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: fact that you know, Texas A and M is loading up.

645
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: Georgia has loaded up with the number of classes that

646
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: they've loaded up in no smart small part due to

647
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,239
Speaker 1: the Sunshine State. Like I almost feel as if they,

648
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: like you know, when an animal goes extinct or is

649
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: over hunted or something like. It affects the ecosystem, right,

650
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 1: there's a certain balance, and there is something about that

651
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: with the Florida schools that I feel like has tipped

652
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: the balance into weird ways within the sport, especially the

653
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 1: SEC and Clemson obviously has done a very successful job

654
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,879
Speaker 1: in Florida as well. That it's almost like they could

655
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: be the mongoose the honey badger, right, that is the

656
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: one apex predator to this one animal, this cobra or

657
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: whatever that's destroying everything in the ecosystem. That's where I

658
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 1: think Florida can, the state of Florida can really help

659
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: to to restore certain amounts of balance within the sport

660
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: if I'm serious about that. Like its just I see

661
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: you nodding, you're not laughing at me. I think you

662
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: might agree with me that there is something to those

663
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 1: schools collectively being down and other schools coming in and

664
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: loading up rosters in new ways. I don't know, I

665
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 1: think there's something there. No, yeah, I don't.

666
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 2: I don't disagree with that. I just like the word

667
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 2: mongoose so much an apex predator. On the show, we

668
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 2: These did a couple of times now I might have

669
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 2: to start using that more.

670
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: Is a mongoose known as an apex predator? Does a

671
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: mongoose have a natural enemy?

672
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 2: I would assume something's bigger than a mongoose that could

673
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 2: take it out, But they're so.

674
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,240
Speaker 1: Okay, So snakes the natural enemy of the mongoose, especially

675
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: the cobra, but the mongoos is obviously quick enough to

676
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: hunt them. Mongoose has a speed and agility on its

677
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: side when fighting a cobra, but it is not immune

678
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: to the deadly venom. Sure, cobras can go up to

679
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: twelve feet and eat small mammals like the mongoose. Okay,

680
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: but the mongoose is putting up a fight. Sure, the

681
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 1: mongoose has has the physical traits, and same goes for

682
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: the honey badger. With the honey badgers were abled, you

683
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: know the viciousness of the honey badger. Right, So yeah,

684
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if a mongoose is an apex, but

685
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: a certain Liam neeson a certain set of skills, right

686
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:09,800
Speaker 1: all right? Next topic, okay, tie, similar to my question

687
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: to you with the car dealership, what would it take

688
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 1: for me to get you into PAC twelve football? In

689
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. But define get me into you live in

690
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: eastern Pennsylvania. Correct, you have no natural reason if you

691
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: weren't doing what you did for a living, what you

692
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: do for a living to watch Pack twelve football. The

693
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: game started in opportune times, both because of how late

694
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 1: they start and sometimes weeknights, and just that the network

695
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: that is difficult to obtain what this fall would get

696
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: you watching noticeably more Pack twelve football than what I

697
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: assume you currently watch because you don't really have even

698
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,280
Speaker 1: doing what you do, you don't really have good reason

699
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:59,240
Speaker 1: to watch ASU Coal to watch UCLA Wazoo.

700
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 2: Well, we have two really good reasons the first two

701
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 2: weeks of the year because opening weekend, we've got Oregon

702
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 2: against Georgia. Yeah, the Dan Lanning Bowl, if you will.

703
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 2: That's a really interesting game. Georgia should still be loaded

704
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 2: to the teeth, and I would presume we'll be will

705
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 2: be a nice favorite against Oregon, but who knows. Sure,

706
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 2: So if Oregon pulls the upset there and knocks off

707
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 2: Georgia week one, Okay, now I'm starting to think, well,

708
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 2: this Oregon team could be contented.

709
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: Well, that's not a Pack twelve game.

710
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 2: That's not a pack twelve game, but it's a Pac

711
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 2: twelve team. And secondly, to build on that, the following week,

712
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 2: we have another Pack twelve team in action in a

713
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 2: non conference game against an SEC opponent, Utah against Florida.

714
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 2: So and Utah should be pretty good again this year.

715
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 2: So where I'm going with this is if on back

716
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 2: to back weeks we have Pack twelve teams knocking off

717
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 2: SEE opponents, now I'm starting to think this conference could

718
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 2: be for real. The teams at the top of this

719
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 2: conference could be for real. There is a game later

720
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 2: on in the year between USC and Notre Dame which

721
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 2: I think can further validate maybe the PAC twelve's role,

722
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 2: Pack twelve's place on the pecking order, if you will.

723
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 2: As we go into twenty twenty two and start to

724
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 2: evaluate and look at how these things are going to

725
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 2: shake out. What I think could help, more than anything

726
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 2: get me into quote unquote into Pac twelve football is

727
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:35,280
Speaker 2: feeling like there is a Pac twelve team that is legit.

728
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 2: I would like to see a team that first off,

729
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 2: can win a big non conference game, whether that's Oregon

730
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 2: or Utah or USC at some point, I don't know. Yeah,

731
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 2: that's the first thing. The second thing is I'd like

732
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,720
Speaker 2: to see somebody who could really legitimately play good defense,

733
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 2: really physical defense. Sure, for a while, that's been Utah's lane,

734
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 2: that's been their music.

735
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: We've had some We've had Washington right, Washington Field some

736
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: really good defenses over the past five seven years. I

737
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: don't know how much Washington you watch though, No, I.

738
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 2: Haven't watched much at all. Yeah, Utah, you know that

739
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 2: the defense was not up to snuff.

740
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 1: This past year. It just wasn't as good.

741
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 2: But nonetheless, I think those two factors are are paramount

742
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 2: need to be able to beat a big non conference

743
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 2: opponent early, we'll have an opportunity to see that. And

744
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 2: then secondly, I'd like to see a team play defense

745
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 2: because if they play defense, I feel like they're legit.

746
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: Those two factors. If I feel like there.

747
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 2: Is a legit contender in the Pac twelve, or if

748
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 2: it just seems like there are a bunch of high

749
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 2: level teams, even if they're beating each other up, that

750
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 2: makes it interesting to me. That makes it interesting to me,

751
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 2: And suddenly staying up late on a Saturday evening to

752
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 2: watch those games at my own peril because of what

753
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 2: we need to do on a Sunday morning. Suddenly, that's

754
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 2: that's more of an interesting proposition to me.

755
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: To me, it's styles make fights. To me, it is

756
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 1: when you look at when the PAC twelve has been

757
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 1: the most interesting, which was probably around nine to twelve

758
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 1: somewhere in there, which I know obviously I have a

759
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: coincide with Chip Kelly. But forget about Oregon. You look

760
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: at Stanford's style, Washington State starting, you know, twenty twelve,

761
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, whatever is Mike Leach jumped in there. You

762
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: have an air raid, you have the speedy spread that

763
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: Oregon's running. You have Stanford mashing guys, you have Utah

764
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 1: mashing teams. You have a wild card ASU that's running

765
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 1: a wide open you know, passing based offense. You know

766
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,399
Speaker 1: what Taylor Kelly and Mike Bercovici guys like that where

767
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: you have these stylistic offenses where you become curious about

768
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 1: what they look like when matched up against each other.

769
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: And right now I don't. I mean, we've got a

770
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: ton of new coaches. We have what a second year

771
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: coach at Arizona, new coach org new coach Washington, new

772
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: coach Washington State, new coach USC of course, you have

773
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: a ton of new coaches and a ton of mysteries

774
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 1: about what those offenses specifically will look like. So I

775
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: think that's that's probably what would do it for the

776
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 1: most people is known brands and styles up and down

777
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,320
Speaker 1: the conference, not just what the best team in the

778
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: conference can do in the first week in September. I

779
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: think wouldn't that have you more likely totally? I'm not

780
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:33,240
Speaker 1: even saying like a national championship contender, Like if Washington

781
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: State we're scoring forty five a game and USC were

782
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 1: scoring forty five a game, it wasn't a top five matchup,

783
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: but it was number twelve versus number sixteen, you'd be like, oh,

784
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: I am curious about who wins this like firepower field

785
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: matchup more so than you currently are. I assume, oh

786
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:51,919
Speaker 1: for sure.

787
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 2: Okay, No, I think that goes without saying Dan. I

788
00:41:55,920 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 2: mean styles, as you said, definitely make fights. And you know,

789
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 2: there's a reason that outside of all the winning, there's

790
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 2: a reason that Boise State has been very interesting over

791
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 2: the last fifteen years. Right, They're just they're creative mm hmm.

792
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think there's definitely an element of that.

793
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 2: I'll also tell you this because of the coaching turnover,

794
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 2: and I'm going to talk about Lincoln Riley here. There's

795
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 2: definitely an injection of star power to the Pac twelve.

796
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 2: And if us C goes out there and if they

797
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 2: look legit, if they look tougher, if they're not missing tackles,

798
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 2: it's not getting blown off the line. If it feels

799
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 2: like a USC team is going to be legit, then

800
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 2: then that's interesting to me. Right, that's interesting. That makes

801
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 2: the Pac twelve a little bit more interesting. And perhaps

802
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 2: we don't pan the USC games like we would on

803
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 2: a Saturday afternoon through mid October. Perhaps there's a reason

804
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 2: to watch. So I think what I'm saying is give

805
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 2: me a reason to watch, and I'll watch. I'm not

806
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 2: averse to watching Pac twelve football. We just haven't had

807
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 2: a really good reason to do so, at least from

808
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 2: the standpoint of the national conversation. Right, they've just not

809
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 2: have not really been a factor.

810
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: The star power either has to come from a coach,

811
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 1: a system, or a It doesn't have to be a quarterback.

812
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: You meet Christian McCaffrey. Christian McCaffrey gave everybody in the

813
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: country reason to watch Stanford games to a lesser extent

814
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: Bryce Love, who would either run for one hundred and

815
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 1: eighty three yards on three carries or seventeen yards. But

816
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: you need that star power. You need Khalil Tate, you

817
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 1: need Christian McCaffrey, you need Mark ease Lee, you need

818
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota. You need those names because it's very difficult

819
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: to build out those names when you're inherently on a

820
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: different coast, you're a different time zone, you're in a

821
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: different starting time PAC twelve needs star power, needs recruiters,

822
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: needs to keep talent home and sort of build that out.

823
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,919
Speaker 1: And that's I think that's ultimately what it's going to take. Yeah,

824
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 1: next question, next question. In twenty twenty two, Ty, you

825
00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: mentioned Boise State. Maybe that's your answer. You have to

826
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: select a group of five teams who did not win

827
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 1: double digit games in twenty twenty one to fully dive

828
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: into bed with Who is that team and why diving

829
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: into bed with so no Coastal Carolina, no Fresno State, Right,

830
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 1: no Cincinnati. I kind of think it's ucf okay going

831
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: to the bounce house. Yeah, I kind of think it's

832
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: ucf okay. I was impressed with the job that Gus

833
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: Melzon did last year. I was impressed because they lost

834
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 1: their quarterback fairly early. They had to rebuild things, reconstitute

835
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: it with Mikey Keane, who was young and inexperienced and

836
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: had some limitations in his game. But they still won

837
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 1: nine games. They still played hard, I believe won their

838
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 1: bowl game as well. So this is not a team

839
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 1: that gave up, despite the fact that they had some

840
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: key injuries, notably their quarterback. I like gust In that situation,

841
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: to be honest with the I think that he's always

842
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: proven himself to be a more creative play caller, run

843
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: a more creative offense. Right We saw that for years

844
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: at Auburn, somewhat sometimes sometimes sometimes not all the time,

845
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: but sometimes I think he'll be able to recruit, you know,

846
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: great athletes at UCF for sure. You know Florida's going

847
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 1: for that, guys who are very versatile, who can plug

848
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 1: and play and you know, get him in space. I

849
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 1: think his offense is predicated a lot on that, and

850
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: I also think that it's in a very winnable conference.

851
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: You know, UCF maybe isn't long for their current setup

852
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: because they're going to go over to the Big twelve whenever,

853
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: but you know there's gonna be some drop off now

854
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: with Cincinnati losing a good chunk of its guys to

855
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: the NFL. I think the conference is there for the taking,

856
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: and UCF's got a lot to build on from last season.

857
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm pretty gung ho.

858
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 2: I haven't done the preview work yet, you know, it's still,

859
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 2: of course, still a little early for that, but I

860
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 2: feel like there's enough coming back, and there's at least

861
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 2: enough of a foundation after one year of malson that

862
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 2: I'm pretty bullish on on UCF.

863
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you don't have to be bullish on

864
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 1: a team just for whatever reason get into bed with

865
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: I'm going Boise. I'm going Boise because of I like

866
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: Andy Avlos, I like the unique quality of Boise. I

867
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: like Mountain West football. I mean, honestly, if I could

868
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: pick a team with double digits, it might be San

869
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: Diego State just because of Southern California, new stadium, and

870
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 1: I think they should be into the right under the

871
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: right circumstances, be able to attract, especially in the portal era,

872
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 1: a good amount of talent, especially you know, guys leaving

873
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: the PAC twelve or whatever. So Boise Is at Oregon

874
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: State this year, also at UTEP. It appears so Boise

875
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: has in twenty twenty three. They're going I guess I

876
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,720
Speaker 1: only said for twenty twenty one, but they have Washington

877
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: and UCF Washington Husky Stadium, So like in the next

878
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: couple of years, they have really interesting non conference opponents.

879
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: They're playing Oregon State and Oregon in twenty twenty four,

880
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: so they're playing in bigger games in September. They've got

881
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: a younger head coach who should improve that defense, and

882
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: especially this coming year. I think Hammer and Hank Bockmeier's back, right,

883
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 1: so experience QB George Alani got you know, They're just like,

884
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 1: there are guys there that are I think going to

885
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: take leaps in year two of the Andy avlos aera.

886
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,839
Speaker 1: I still like how quickly they play with that what's

887
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: his name, Tim Timplow, Tim Plow, the offensive coordinator yep.

888
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 1: So I don't know. They're really intriguing to me. Still,

889
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 1: Boise State. I just don't sleep on the broncos is.

890
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: I don't have their exact Mountain West schedule in front

891
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 1: of me this year. I don't have any of that,

892
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: and I don't know if they're going ten and two

893
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: or six and six or whatever. I just there are

894
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: enough pieces there and enough narratives that I can get

895
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: on board with that. I think it's it's Boise State

896
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 1: within the Mountain West.

897
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 2: Smurf Turf.

898
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: All right, I like smurf Turf. I have a non

899
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 1: college football question for you, Ty, and you can go

900
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: in a number of directions with this. Okay, so you're

901
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 1: now a man forty I am, and now that you

902
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,879
Speaker 1: are living in the skin of a forty year old tie,

903
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,320
Speaker 1: Oh god, where are we going? What advice would you

904
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 1: give to people of younger generations myself included obviously younger

905
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 1: generation here, I guess in terms of what you wished

906
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 1: you either accomplished or saw or experience or able to do. Physically,

907
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,839
Speaker 1: you're not in your best shape in terms of your joints, right,

908
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm okay, you got a bum shoulder?

909
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 2: I do.

910
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: Ah, you can't really do push ups right now, could you? No?

911
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 2: I could do push ups?

912
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: Oh you do push ups? Yeah?

913
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 2: If I do too many of them, then yeah, my

914
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 2: shoulder starts to feel like it's going to fall apart.

915
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 1: I'm not saying regrets, but I'm saying if you had

916
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: a blueprint for a twenty eight year old right now,

917
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: and what would you tell him or her about, Like, look,

918
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: you're not always going to be twenty eight, right right.

919
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can say I'm glad I

920
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,800
Speaker 1: did this, or I'm bummed I didn't do this sooner,

921
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: or I'm bummed I still haven't done this. What is

922
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 1: it that you say before you because like you're I mean,

923
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 1: you're not boring, but you're a full on grown up,

924
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 1: right You have a mortgage, like you have that you

925
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 1: have responsibilities that you didn't necessarily have when you were

926
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: twenty eight. That's right, you have to you have to

927
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: live a life not just for you, but for a spouse.

928
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 2: You You ask this question hoping for some sort of

929
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 2: new information for me, but you know I will probably

930
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 2: let you down with this answer.

931
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: No, I'm gonna still prod continue.

932
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 2: I should have quit my job a long time ago. Okay,

933
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 2: I should have quit my job. And actually that would

934
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 2: be my advice, my advice to people. If you are

935
00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 2: twenty eight, pull the trigger, pull the trigger twenty years.

936
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: If you're miserable, or if if you're not, you know,

937
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 1: if you if you have the freedom to do so

938
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 1: that's correct.

939
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't just like go in willy nilly and say,

940
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 2: you know what, I'm gonna do this. Instead, I have

941
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 2: no experience and I'm just gonna.

942
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 1: Like we're do it.

943
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 2: You know, get set yourself up in the best position

944
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 2: possible before you make the jump. But yeah, you know,

945
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 2: there are a lot of people who go into into

946
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 2: the office every day. I can say this now because

947
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 2: I was. I was kind of in that in that mode.

948
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 2: There are a lot of folks that go into the

949
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 2: office and just sort of go through the motions. And

950
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 2: I love the people I worked with. I to an extent,

951
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 2: loved the stuff that I did. I'm doing a lot

952
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 2: of the same stuff for you and me now, so

953
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 2: I it is stuff that I have always enjoyed. But

954
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 2: I don't know that it's definitely a different feel now

955
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 2: when you're doing it for yourself as opposed to doing

956
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 2: it for the man. So if you're in a situation

957
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 2: that you don't feel you're getting anything out of at

958
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 2: this point, m hmm. My advice to the twenty eight

959
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 2: year old whoever would be strongly reconsider because there are

960
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 2: other opportunities out there. Do you wish you had traveled more,

961
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 2: I think, so, yeah, there's time for that. Last couple

962
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 2: of years been weird. No one's really traveled, but right, well.

963
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: More and more now. But yeah, did you have opportunities

964
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 1: that you turned down? Opportunities like what like did were

965
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 1: you ever invited to go to Italy? And You're like,

966
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 1: I've got a work thing, I can't really go.

967
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 2: I was invited to go to a European wedding in Poland,

968
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 2: which I was unable to go to. But I'm not

969
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 2: going to say I have any like real regrets about

970
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 2: not going to that one. It's not like tropical got

971
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 2: married in Poland a paradise or anything.

972
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: Who's getting married in Poland?

973
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 2: A college friend?

974
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 1: Okay, is he from or she from Poland?

975
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 2: She is?

976
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 1: Oh she's from Poland. Yeah that would make sense.

977
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 2: My friends then fiance was from Poland.

978
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So I.

979
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 2: Had the opportunity to do that, didn't go. But beyond that,

980
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 2: not really just have not made it a priority.

981
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: Frankly, gotcha? So yeah, man, didn't see the Poland answer

982
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 1: like just waks up on you. It just steaks up

983
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: on you sometimes. All right, Yeah, I definitely I've traveled some,

984
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: but I definitely haven't traveled enough. I definitely regret that.

985
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 1: I regret not playing more rex sports in my twenties.

986
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: How long were you single after college? Single after like

987
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 1: you dated people, so it's not like it's not like

988
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,040
Speaker 1: you've been with Kate since you were twenty one?

989
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 2: No?

990
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: So, how long were you single and dating but not

991
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 1: in a relationship from what age to what age or

992
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 1: what gaps?

993
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 2: Probably until I was about twenty eight, So.

994
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: Twenty one to twenty eight were you all? No? Until

995
00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: you so? Were you in a relationship in college with anybody?

996
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:00,320
Speaker 2: No?

997
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 1: High school?

998
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 2: No?

999
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't know that. We've been podcasting for fourteen years.

1000
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 1: I didn't know either of those things. No, Okay, do

1001
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 1: you wish you had been in a relationship in college

1002
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 1: or high school? Not really? Really? Yeah, I was in

1003
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: a complicated situation in college which then became a real

1004
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,879
Speaker 1: situation in my twenties, and in a relationship in high

1005
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 1: school for a couple of years. I think I'm all right.

1006
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1007
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 2: I I'm fine without it.

1008
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: I don't know it worked out. I'm good. The pitch

1009
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 1: of your voice getting higher, that's fine, don't feeling good? No? No,

1010
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 1: I'm all right, twenty it's a good age. Twenty eight

1011
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: is when I moved to New York and was single

1012
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 1: for I don't know, two three years, two two and

1013
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 1: a half years or something like that in New York.

1014
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: But I was with somebody most of my twenties, which

1015
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 1: was fine. But I'm glad I had that experience after

1016
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 1: that in New York. In terms of other things I

1017
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,800
Speaker 1: wish i'd I'd love to have done more strength training

1018
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,879
Speaker 1: what I had. We could still get yoked. We can't

1019
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:05,320
Speaker 1: get yoked. We can get yoked.

1020
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:06,919
Speaker 2: We need to find a gym or we can push

1021
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 2: the sleds around. That's what we gotta If we can

1022
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 2: find the gym, yeah, one in Chicago, one here and

1023
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,879
Speaker 2: wherever I'm at, Yeah we could.

1024
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 1: We could.

1025
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 2: We could set that up and by the time it

1026
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 2: comes to like the season, you know, maybe we could

1027
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:24,919
Speaker 2: try out for a D three team. We still got eligibility.

1028
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: Would Are there any like bucket list physical accomplishments like

1029
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,320
Speaker 1: do you want to bungee jump? Do you want to

1030
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: run a marathon or a half marathon or a triathlon

1031
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 1: or an iron Man?

1032
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 2: No?

1033
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 1: Or no physical accomplishments.

1034
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 2: Like unless you're talking about golf, scores. The answer is

1035
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 2: probably no.

1036
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 1: What's the what you want to? What break par.

1037
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that would probably be the goal, Okay, yeah.

1038
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 1: But nothing else In terms of like what people put

1039
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 1: on their bucket list, I don't think so. No, I've

1040
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 1: really I just I don't. You don't want, like to

1041
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 1: swim in Lake Minnetonka, Like are there any places you

1042
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: would like to And I'm not saying like, you know,

1043
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: run a five minute mile. That's purify yourself in the

1044
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 1: waters of Lake Minetanga. That's Prince Minnesota, Minneapolis, yea land

1045
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 1: of ten thousand lakes, So like nothing like do you

1046
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: have do you want to get up on a surfboard?

1047
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 1: Do you want to do you want to swim with

1048
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: blue whales in Tonga? You got to have some sort

1049
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 1: of physical But I think I have a physical bucket list.

1050
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 1: I really don't think I have. Really I don't. I

1051
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 1: don't think I I just I'm not good at this

1052
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 1: type of thing. Do you want to draw? Do you

1053
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 1: want to like take a fast car around the Audubah Like,

1054
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 1: I mean that's not technically physical in the same way

1055
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: as like diving with the blue whales in Tonga, But like,

1056
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 1: do you want to take a ferrari or something like

1057
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 1: that out there. Do you want to learn how to

1058
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 1: fly a plane? I don't want to do any speed boating.

1059
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:04,720
Speaker 1: I don't care a sailing. I like boats.

1060
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 2: I don't want to do any of the stuff. I

1061
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:12,320
Speaker 2: don't care scuba diving in a shipwreck, no, nothing, No,

1062
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 2: I don't want to do any of this stuff.

1063
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 1: You want to grow an herb garden? You want to

1064
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 1: start small here? No?

1065
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 2: No, no, no no.

1066
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 1: You don't want to attend to a garden? No no,

1067
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 1: I don't. I like the idea of a garden more

1068
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 1: than I like the idea of tending to the garden.

1069
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 1: All I really want is to not be hassled. No,

1070
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 1: I hear you. That's really all I care about. Oh man,

1071
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: this is where you and I and our brains diverge.

1072
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,359
Speaker 1: I want to be dunking basketball's I mean? I want

1073
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: to cool.

1074
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 2: I will never dunk a basketball.

1075
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 1: That's I would want it to. I would love to.

1076
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Speaker 1: Why Why are you saying that?

1077
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 2: Because I'm forty, I'm not going to be able to

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00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 2: dunk a basketball. If I couldn't do it before, I'm not.

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00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:57,919
Speaker 1: Going to do it now. We gotta get some aspirations

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00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,439
Speaker 1: in that brain. There's a lot of aspirations in his brain.

1081
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 2: I'm just not interested aund podcasting to heat Tongo wherever. Okay,

1082
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 2: so what talk to me about your boat goals? My

1083
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:11,240
Speaker 2: boat said, you're into boats.

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00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, well there's not a lot of water around here,

1085
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 1: so that makes it hard. Oh, I'm not talking about

1086
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 1: while and palm pak or whatever? Is that what it

1087
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: was in the like do you want to do you

1088
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,959
Speaker 1: want to be like open linen shirt on the Adriatic?

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00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 1: What is what is your dream boating situation? Dream boating situations?

1090
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 1: Like do you want to go whale watching? Do you

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00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 1: want to like one of those like speedboats that go

1092
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: crazy fast? Do you want to be yah like an

1093
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 1: America's Cup type yacht race? What is tell me about

1094
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 1: when you close your eyes, I'm not your ideal a person.

1095
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 1: I'm not saying complicated. No, I'm saying what is it?

1096
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not I'm not.

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00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 1: Do you want a cruise on a yacht in like

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00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 1: a Florida like a canal? But it sounds lovely? I

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00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: just oh, man, ty, I don't.

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00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 2: I don't know if I see this is where I'm

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00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 2: different from you. I don't know if I have an

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00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 2: idea of these things that I would like to do

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00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 2: and try. I would just sort of like to to

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00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 2: to do cool things, but I don't. I'm going to

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00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 2: edit most of this out.

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00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,160
Speaker 1: There's no way you should be doing that. I don't

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00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 1: leave this all in, but.

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00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make myself sound boring. I'm not interested in

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00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 2: any of these things.

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00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 1: He's honest. I'm not his honest. This is I would

1111
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 1: love to go boating. I'd love it. I'd love I'm

1112
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: planting a seed.

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00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 2: I'd love to go somewhere cool, but where I don't care.

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00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:44,760
Speaker 1: I'm very indifferent. You can select one college football media

1115
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: member to go to the French Riviera with. Can't be me?

1116
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 1: Go to the French Riviera and on a yacht you

1117
00:58:56,040 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 1: can jump off into the into the sea. Does that

1118
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 1: sound appealing to you? You and Ralph Russo on the

1119
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 1: French Riviera.

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00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 2: Ralph Russo seems like he's got a lot of He

1121
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:09,479
Speaker 2: would probably have the right amount of energy for something

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00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 2: like that.

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Speaker 1: You think so, I think so. I think it might

1124
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 1: be a liability. I like Ralph same. Who would I

1125
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 1: go with? That's such a good question. I don't know.

1126
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 1: Ari Ari. Probably he's into super ritzy stuffy. It's probably

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00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 1: in the French riviera. It might be a little too

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00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 1: rich for my blood though, that's that's fair. No, But

1129
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 1: I'm saying, does that sound like French riviera yacht right?

1130
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 1: You know, go down to Monte Carlo.

1131
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 2: That sounds fun. I could do that.

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00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, Yeah, I'm glad we could figure out one

1133
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 1: boat goal for you. It's a super goal. I don't

1134
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 1: have any of these goals, Dy, We got to have

1135
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 1: something here.

1136
00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 2: Look, I quit my job last year. That was a

1137
00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 2: big deal.

1138
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 1: I'm still working up to these other goals now that

1139
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 1: I have time to do. So now you gotta think big.

1140
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 2: We can start start by breaking par sure, and then

1141
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 2: we can aspire to bigger and better things with respect

1142
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 2: to travel and boats and planes and uh dive in

1143
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 2: for whales or whatever. But for now, I'm starting small

1144
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 2: and we'll work.

1145
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 1: Up to it. You want to take down the niche marrow?

1146
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 1: You want to get on the sea shepherd? Is that

1147
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 1: a boat goal? What was it's the uh? Who was

1148
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 1: the the celebrity that donated the bridget Bardo? There was

1149
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 1: the bridge of Bardot? Was it was there a Bob Barker.

1150
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 1: There was It was the Bob Barker. Yeah, the Bob Barker.

1151
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Wanning, Yeah, that seems like a terrible boat

1152
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 1: that's horrible. Best show ever. Oh yeah, Whale War is terrific. Peter,

1153
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 1: let's say stars card. What's Peter Hammerstead Yeah, Peter the

1154
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 1: hammer Hammer said, Man, you got to do better with

1155
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:51,919
Speaker 1: boat goals. There's so many.

1156
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 2: Look solid verbal at gmail dot com. If you have

1157
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 2: a peg boat goals, let us know.

1158
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 1: I would love for us to do a show on

1159
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 1: a boat at some point, which we technically recorded on

1160
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 1: the New York City Ferry, I believe audio that.

1161
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 2: Wasn't a full show and people did look at us

1162
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 2: like we were weird. That would actually be a cool

1163
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 2: boat goal because we've done one in did youkuz? But

1164
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 2: to do one on a body of water like you're

1165
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 2: in chicag you got to know somebody with a nice boat.

1166
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 1: I'm not doing domestic I'm not doing a domestic show

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01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:29,160
Speaker 1: with you, Ty. We're going bigger than that. You're talking

1168
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 1: international waters. I want to do a Mediterranean or Adriatic

1169
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 1: somewhere in that region. Oh yeah, we want to go

1170
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 1: over do we know any oligarchs. How we get how

1171
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 1: are we doing this? Well, no, we don't need to

1172
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 1: know an oligarch anymore because all of those boats have

1173
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 1: been seized. Deals deals, deals. Yeah, I want, I want

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01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 1: to do a show on luxurious international waters with you. Well,

1175
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 1: this show took a turn. Solid verb. I don't understand

1176
01:01:58,320 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 1: what's wrong with thinking big.

1177
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:02,959
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm I'm I'm working up the thinking big again.

1178
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 1: Dan, the man, the corporate man had me down for

1179
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 1: like ten years. Let's see, let's look at the different

1180
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 1: c's that we could hit the Alborne c solid verbal

1181
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 1: at gmail dot com is the email where you can

1182
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 1: hit us up.

1183
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 2: Let us know what's on your mind. Don't forget to

1184
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 2: follow on social media. You can also find us at

1185
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 2: verbalers dot com. It's where our bonus content can be found.

1186
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 2: Soliverbal dot com is a website where you can find

1187
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 2: all of our shows, where you can find the subscribe links,

1188
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 2: the follow links. Please do tell your friends about the show, Dan,

1189
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 2: This is all I have the energy for. Is all

1190
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 2: I have the energy for today? You've really got You

1191
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 2: always do this to me. You always throw me this.

1192
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 1: Curveball that I seemingly am unprepared for. We've been doing

1193
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 1: this now for fourteen years.

1194
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:52,840
Speaker 2: I'm still unprepared for that last question every time.

1195
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 1: I can't believe you haven't given serious thought to your

1196
01:02:56,400 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 1: boat goals. I just figured it. I love everybody. Everybody

1197
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 1: who's okay with boats? Well, does I understand some people

1198
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 1: don't like being on the water. That's fine, whatever, to

1199
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:07,880
Speaker 1: each their own. But if somebody's into boats, there has

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01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 1: to be a very specific boat goal that you have.

1201
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 1: I just sort of like being on the boat because

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01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 1: I don't go on many boats here. I mean eastern Pennsylvania.

1203
01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 1: They're not a lot. There's not a thriving boat situation here.

1204
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 1: I like boats.

1205
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 2: Okay, maybe a cruse, maybe go on a cruise, but

1206
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 2: I've heard like mixed reviews on cruise cruise.

1207
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 1: I'm not talking ship goals, I'm talking boat goals. Well,

1208
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 1: then I don't know.

1209
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 2: I don't got any boat goals.

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01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 1: Do you ever fantasize about in long solo sales? It

1211
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 1: sounds sounds terrible.

1212
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 2: I don't want to do that.

1213
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 1: That sounds like a nightmare. But oh man, yeah, I

1214
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 1: want to get I.

1215
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 2: Don't want to like circumnavigate the globeer. I don't like

1216
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 2: you know, come on.

1217
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 1: I want the end of season two succession except you

1218
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 1: and I you know, on the Dalmatian coast of Croatia.

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01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 2: Right right, that's all too much to ash sounds fun,

1220
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1221
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, there's so much. We just head into split.

1222
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 1: Come on time.

1223
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 2: I'm salt of the earth. Dan, you know that I'm

1224
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 2: salt of the earth. I'm the everyman here.

1225
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 1: You're not above Croatia. I'm not above Croatia. Okay, that's it.

1226
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 1: They speaking about your boat goals. Everybody should be thinking

1227
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 1: about their boat goals moving forward. If you're into it. Well,

1228
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 1: I don't like the way.

1229
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 2: This show ended, but I'm gonna leave most of this

1230
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 2: stuff in good. People are gonna yell at me on

1231
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 2: social media for not being more prepared for this question,

1232
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 2: but I'm just saying you need to dream. I do dream, dream.

1233
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 1: I just don't care about the whales and tongue.

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01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 2: I like whales and pro whales, but.

1235
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 1: I'm just not gonna Mercer Island off of Washington see

1236
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 1: some workahs. I would be okay with that. Yeah, that

1237
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 1: would be that would be fun. Okay. I have swum

1238
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 1: with whale sharks off the coast like that. What whale

1239
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:57,360
Speaker 1: sharks they're just they're like big golden retrievers. They don't

1240
01:04:57,360 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 1: do anything, but they are sharks. They don't eat flesh.

1241
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 1: I'm just I don't eat humans. I don't listen. I

1242
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 1: went there like the big school bus.

1243
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 2: When I was in Cancun, we did one of those

1244
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 2: scuba things. Yeah, storkling wasn't even sure and they threw

1245
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 2: the food in and the tropical fish came and they

1246
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 2: were all up in your grill.

1247
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:21,400
Speaker 1: I hate it. Okay, I'm not interested in it. But

1248
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 1: the whale sharks don't do that. They're just cruising around,

1249
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 1: not interested. They're sharks, it is, They're they're large. I

1250
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 1: don't need that.

1251
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 2: I don't need I can watch that on the four

1252
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 2: K TV. Like you said, they're cheap, but.

1253
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 1: They don't attack humans at all. I don't care. I

1254
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:37,920
Speaker 1: can watch it on TV. What about blue whale though,

1255
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 1: and Tonga?

1256
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 2: I mean the blue whales are spectacular, Yeah, the scope

1257
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 2: of that, it's just not a goal of mine. People

1258
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 2: have stopped listening. We don't need to keep we can

1259
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 2: do I understand, I understand, but I just like get

1260
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 2: at the bottom of this with you. I like to

1261
01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 2: hear your dreams because it was your dream to leave

1262
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:00,560
Speaker 2: that job and you made it happen, and so let's

1263
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 2: check off another box. All right, we'll think about it.

1264
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tying Dan on the French riviera for that guy

1265
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 1: over there.

1266
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 2: In the Midwestern riviera that is Chicago, Illinois, for myself,

1267
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 2: Ti Hilton Brand. Thanks about your download inglisting point one

1268
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:15,920
Speaker 2: at home.

1269
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 1: We will be back.

1270
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 2: Five more questions mind. For Dan, I'm going to have

1271
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 2: to come up with a sixth.

1272
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 1: That can hopefully stump him on our next episode. I

1273
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 1: would love it. In the meantime, stay solid, peace,