1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to Haunted Road, a production of I Heart Radio 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:08,879 Speaker 1: and Grimm and Mild from Aaron Minky listener Discretion is advised. 3 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: When I was a kid, it was a pretty well 4 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: known fact that my elementary school was haunted. And by 5 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: a well known fact, I mean that every single one 6 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: of us second graders was convinced there was a mean 7 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: lady in the girl's bathroom who would appear in the 8 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: mirror behind you. I'm not sure what she did beyond that, 9 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: but that was enough. The teachers, of course, laughed us off. 10 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: But nonetheless, that did not stop us giggling school kids 11 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: from sneaking the lights off on each other, or gathering 12 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: around the mirror and then claiming to see someone behind 13 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: us before squealing and running out the door. It also 14 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: meant when I had to use the restroom during class, 15 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 1: I'd sneak to the one on the second floor, because 16 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: you know full well I was not going in the 17 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: scary lady bathroom alone. Until one day, when I was 18 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: tiptoeing down the hall headed to my usual secret bathroom upstairs, 19 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: I saw a teacher in the hallway. I had no 20 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,199 Speaker 1: excuse to be going upstairs, and I also actually really 21 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: had to go to the bathroom, which meant I was 22 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: forced to go to the bathroom of doom. I breathed 23 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: heavily and went inside. I could feel my little, panicky 24 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,040 Speaker 1: self getting ready to run, but I put my head 25 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,559 Speaker 1: down and looked at my feet as I scurried into 26 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,199 Speaker 1: a stall. I held my breath and kept my eyes 27 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: on the floor as I did my business. I'd be 28 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: lying if I said I didn't briefly consider skipping the 29 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: hand wash, but even then, germs were scarier to me 30 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 1: than ghosts, so keeping my head down, I quickly ran 31 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: the water and dispensed some of that weird, pink, powdery 32 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: soap into my hands and rinsed. It was then that 33 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: I let myself stop and slowly look up at the mirror. 34 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: I saw myself. I could still see myself, then with bangs, 35 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: something's never change and something else? Did I see something else? 36 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: Not giving myself time him to answer, I ran out 37 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: of that bathroom quicker than I've ever run from anything 38 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: in my life. I got back to class, chest pounding, 39 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: and tried to pretend nothing happened, because really I don't 40 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 1: think anything did. But my little mind created a whole 41 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: terrifying world in that moment out of a simple elementary 42 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: school bathroom. Apparently, though, I got off lucky, because since 43 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: then I've investigated a number of haunted elementary schools, some 44 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: still very much in operation, but one that forever holds 45 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: my interest because it defies all logic and reason and 46 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 1: continues to exhibit some of the strangest and strongest paranormal 47 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: activity I've seen on an ongoing basis is the seventeen 48 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 1: thousand square foot for our school in Maxwell, Iowa, where 49 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: it turns out that sometimes, yes, if you build it, 50 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: they really do come. I'm Amy Bruney, and this is 51 00:02:56,160 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: haunted road according to many sources. Unlike many of the 52 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: locations we discuss, for our school doesn't have much of 53 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: a sordid or traumatic history, definitely not anything that would 54 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,839 Speaker 1: warrant the level of haunting. The building is very much 55 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 1: notorious for having, but the history is interesting nonetheless, and 56 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: I discovered a few tidbits that happened nearby that may 57 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 1: be contributing to the paranormal activity that goes on there today. 58 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 1: It's fair to say that Ferrar, Iowa is almost a 59 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: ghost town. How fitting, Today, the unincorporated community in Polk 60 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: County comprises of the unused for our school building and 61 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: one church, as well as thirteen houses. Notably, Ferrar's population 62 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: numbered just forty two people in nineteen and today there's 63 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: a whopping thirty residents. Ferrara owes its development to the 64 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: railroad line that was developed through the area in nineteen 65 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: o two. In nineteen o three, and was consequently named 66 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: in honor of one of the railroad employees involved in 67 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: the creation of that line. A post office was established 68 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: in nineteen o four, and in nineteen nineteen CG. Gettis 69 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: agreed to donate six acres of his farm to merge 70 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: the area's one room country schoolhouses to offer the community 71 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 1: a larger and more modern facility to the local children. 72 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: The expensive project didn't please everyone in the surrounding community, 73 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: but it won over the majority of folks with a say, 74 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: and with that, the school boards voted and created the 75 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 1: Washington Township Consolidated School District. On April first, nineteen twenty two, 76 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: the school houses opening was marked by a celebration. There 77 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: was an orchestra welcoming the community to celebrate their proud 78 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: scholastic buildings opening. The school house filled with citizens from 79 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: miles around the orchestra played on stage in the auditorium 80 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: as a banquet served the hundreds in attendance. Not all 81 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 1: citizens were behind the new building with its one hundred 82 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: thousand dollar price tag. One disgruntled citizen refused to attend 83 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: the celebration, calling it a monument to the arrogance and 84 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: vanity of the school board with its boiler heating, electric 85 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: lights and indoor bathroom facilities. How dare they? There's a 86 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 1: cemetery across the street that's often mentioned in conjunction with 87 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: the schoolhouse. It's also commonly joked that the cemetery population 88 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: seems to be outpacing the living population in town. It's 89 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: to the immediate west of the Turner Memorial MP Church 90 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 1: established in nineteen The cemetery is often referred to as 91 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 1: one hundred fifty years old. The oldest listed death date 92 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: in Ferrara Cemetery is that of Ida Jane Longenecker born 93 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: January eighteen seventy one and died April eleventh, eighteen seventy one. Interestingly, 94 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: the cemetery is still currently active, according to haunting at 95 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: ferrar dot com. On May three, two thousand two, once 96 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: again a band played, a banquet served hundreds in attendants, 97 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: and sadly the eighty year old schoolhouse closed its doors 98 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: for the last time. Seems uneventful, right. I was able 99 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 1: to discover a few bits of history that could maybe 100 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: have something to do with Ferrar's haunting. So in August 101 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: of nineteen six, fifth grader Nancy Pearson was killed after 102 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 1: the bicycle she was writing collided with a vehicle on 103 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: Highway sixty four in Ferrar. She had just received the 104 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: bicycle at the beginning of summer and was racing her 105 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: uncle down the street when the accident occurred. She was 106 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 1: a student at Ferrar and she is buried in the 107 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: cemetery across the street. If you look her up on 108 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: finding grave dot com, you can actually leave virtual flowers 109 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 1: for her, as I have done. She seems to be 110 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: buried without any family nearby her. When Adam Burry and 111 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,239 Speaker 1: I were investigating Ferrar for an episode of our show 112 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: Kindred spear It, we received snippets of information during a 113 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 1: spirit box session. They included things like the words farm, knife, 114 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: and April. Using that information, I scoured local news stories 115 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: for anything that would correlate. That's when I found a 116 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: news story about a young man named Terry. Terry's badly 117 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: decomposed body had been found on a farm in close 118 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: proximity of for our school. His body was found in 119 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: April of nineteen and his throat had been slashed with 120 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: a pocket knife. We proceeded to investigate the school while 121 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: bringing up Terry's name, and after many communications using our 122 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: spirit box and various e vps, we theorized that maybe 123 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: his spirit had somehow ended up there. This isn't unusual 124 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: for us. We found spirits tend to wander into heavily 125 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: investigated buildings, especially those who need closure or help, and 126 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: Terry certainly fits that bill. I didn't get to cover 127 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: it on Kindred Spirits it. I was in contact with 128 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: some who knew Terry in life, including a few close relatives. 129 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: To this day, some are trying to solve his murder. 130 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: Others told me everyone knows who did it, but they're 131 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: afraid to say. Either way, it's clear the murder was 132 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: drug related. Terry had already survived being shot multiple times 133 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: on another occasion, and according to close friends, he was 134 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: in a treatment center just before his murder and was 135 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: afraid to leave because he thought he would be killed. 136 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: Despite this, he was released at the end of January 137 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: and was murdered by the end of February. As I 138 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 1: said before, his body was not found until April. I 139 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 1: cite that bit of history because we never would have 140 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: discovered it if not for paranormal activity that led us 141 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 1: to it. So now let's explore some other ghostly reports 142 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: on the site. After sitting abandoned for five years, Jim 143 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: and Nancy Oliver purchased the building in two thousand six. 144 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: It quickly became apparent they were not alone. Voices and 145 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: shadows were witnessed almost immediately. Nancy reports she once became 146 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: unsteady on the stairs when a hand on her shoulder 147 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: helped her catch her balance. She turned to thank her 148 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: husband for the help, only to find no one there. 149 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: On another occasion, the outline of a small boy was 150 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,599 Speaker 1: sighted on the well lit stairway descending into the gymnasium. 151 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 1: The boy appeared to be about three feet six inches tall, 152 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,839 Speaker 1: with one foot on each step and holding onto the handrail. 153 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: The figure stayed motionless for almost two seconds before disappearing. 154 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: In one of the classrooms, Nancy saw the figure of 155 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: a young girl with a long frilly dress and curly hair, 156 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: and heard the giggle of a child. Even employees on 157 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: site while the school was in operation reported odd happenings. 158 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: While working as the janitor, a gentleman named Bill Webb 159 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 1: often discovered the gym lights on after hours, even though 160 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: he was sure he had turned them off. He also 161 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 1: heard noises that sounded like people were walking around on 162 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 1: the lower floor. In October of a local metal band 163 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: named ghost Hive recorded music inside a classroom. Recording engineer 164 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 1: Griffin Landa looked away from his computer for just a second, 165 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: and in the next moment, when he turned around and 166 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: looked at his computer screen, it flickered off. Just ten 167 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: seconds later, the screen flashed back on and the volume 168 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: for his headphones skyrocketed. Some apparitions have been seen a 169 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: multitude of times. In addition to the small phantom boy 170 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,839 Speaker 1: on the stairwell, another child has been captured on an 171 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: image sitting on the edge of the auditorium stage. According 172 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 1: to the Paranormal Investigators of Milwaukee, there are other occurrences 173 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: that happened quite frequently. People have claimed to see a 174 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: shadow figure coming down the steps out of the principal's office. 175 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: A boy was seen exiting the closet in room two 176 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: oh six, the sound of voices has been heard throughout 177 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 1: the school. Slamming doors have also been heard while nobody 178 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: else is in the building, something I can about for personally, 179 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: having experienced it multiple times while investigating there. Unnatural figures 180 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: have been seen walking the halls, including a nine foot 181 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: tall shadow figure that roams the third floor. Balls have 182 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: been seen rolling around on their own in a classroom 183 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: on the third floor that has now labeled the Ballroom. 184 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: There's another theory, at times complementary to others, of a 185 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: large entity often called the Principle. Johnny Houser, who we 186 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: talked to about the Veliska House, believes that the Principle 187 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: has control of everything in the school and has a 188 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: low tolerance for disorder and chaotic activity inside the building. 189 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: In researching for this episode, we saw the name John 190 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: Tenney come up multiple times. Seems he has been too 191 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: fer our on many occasions and has even performed a 192 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: wedding there. It just so happens. We know that guy, 193 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 1: so I've asked him to weigh in on what he 194 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: thinks is happening in that strange schoolhouse in the middle 195 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: of Iowa, and that is coming up right after the break. 196 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: All right, So I am sitting here now with my 197 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 1: dear friend and friend of the show. I feel like 198 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 1: at this point Mr John Tenny, a cult researcher, great, 199 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: big weirdo, total softie. How's it going, John, Good? How 200 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: are you doing today? I'm good, I'm good. I'm excited 201 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: to talk to you about Ferrar, just because I feel 202 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: like you have a pretty good history with it. You've 203 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 1: investigated it a few times. You're close enough with Will Conkle, 204 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: who was the gentleman who was on Kindred, that you 205 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: actually didn't you perform his wedding ceremony for he and 206 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: his wife? Yeah? They met she was in a ghost 207 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: group and he was the caretaker, and they met on 208 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,079 Speaker 1: one of her ghost investigations. And then when they got married, 209 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: they decided to get married there. And since I'm ordained, 210 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: they asked if I would come and perform the wedding 211 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: on Halloween. Oh how appropriate. I think that's what the 212 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: plan was for the school initially when the most recent 213 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: folks bought it, was to turn it into an event space, 214 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: which makes sense. It's beautiful, it's in a very beautiful area. 215 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: For me with Ferrar, the thing is that it's so 216 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: strange because it's that schoolhouse that's almost set in the 217 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: middle of nowhere. Oh it is. I think the most 218 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: recent like population count of that town was thirty So 219 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 1: there's a cemetery across the street that is more populous 220 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: than the town itself. So what has I think a 221 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 1: lot of people stumped about Ferrar is the fact that 222 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: there's not a lot of dark history. They're not any 223 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,959 Speaker 1: reported deaths that I can find. Although I did find 224 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: a number of obituaries that cited people who were former 225 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: employees who still thought back very fondly on their time there. 226 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: I couldn't find really anything that happened inside the school 227 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: per se. So why do you think it's haunted. I've 228 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: been going to Ferrar. I think the first time I 229 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: investigated there was about nine years ago, and I've been 230 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: there a few times since, and every time I go 231 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: it seems to offer me different experiences. And as a 232 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: person who had my parents and family who were teachers 233 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: and worked in the school system and I did too, 234 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: I feel like for our is continuing to be a school. 235 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: It's a place where you go to learn how to investigate, 236 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: learn how you handle situations that you might not be 237 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: familiar with. It's very strange that the location, which is 238 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: a school, teaches you yeah, I mean, I guess so. 239 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: And it's strange because over time it's almost for lack 240 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: of a better term, spawning different types of experiences, like 241 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: it's ever changing. I think by the time we got there, 242 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: there was this report of this huge shadow figure that 243 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: would appear in one of the rooms, which is do 244 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: you think about that? That's so scary to think about, 245 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: and you're like, how did this become this? Where is 246 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: this coming from? And it's haunted. I mean we walked 247 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: in and within five minutes we were hearing doors slam upstairs. 248 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: We were trying to film, just doing the normal tour 249 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: just to get info. And so it's just taken on 250 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: this life of its own. And but really people have 251 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: only been investigating it, I want to say, since the 252 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: like two thousand six, I think is when they bought 253 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: it or when it closed somewhere in there. I went there, 254 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: I had heard stories about this tall, foreboding figure that 255 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: was there, and the first night that I investigated, I 256 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: saw what I thought was a very tall figure, but 257 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: to me, it seemed like it had was in silhouette 258 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: form and it seemed to have two heads, one up 259 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: on top where a head should be, and then one 260 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: almost at stomach level. And it was the craziest thing 261 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: that I saw, and I sketched it and drew it, 262 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: and after I investigated, internalized it and tried to think 263 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: it and figure it out. And maybe a year later 264 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: I saw randomly on television. I was just watching a 265 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: television program and I watched the principle of a school 266 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: walk a student out in front of them, and they 267 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: had their hands on the child's shoulders and the child's 268 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: head was at stomach level. And I was like, oh, 269 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: that's what I saw. I didn't see one thing with 270 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: two heads. I saw two entities standing looking at me, 271 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: and one was just standing behind the other. Okay, that 272 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: kind of gives me some interesting theories or ideas. First 273 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: of all, the principal like, there isn't a entity there. 274 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: They have nicknamed the principle, So I wonder if that's 275 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: who you saw. They there is someone there that they 276 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 1: give they've given that name to. But it also reminds 277 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,719 Speaker 1: me of as a child I wasn't I wasn't really 278 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 1: a troublemaker until I was in high school, but before 279 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 1: that there were a couple of times as a child 280 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: where I did get in trouble, and I do remember 281 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: getting caught once doing something I can't it's so silly. 282 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: I was wadding up toilet paper and getting it wet 283 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: and throwing it on the ceiling of the bathroom, and 284 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: I thought that was great fun. And I remember getting caught, 285 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: and I remember the extreme stress that went with that, 286 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: like I felt awful, and I do remember being walked 287 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: down the hallway. I do remember. And to make matters worse, 288 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:48,959 Speaker 1: my grandmother worked there at the time, and so for 289 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: some reason, my grandfather showed up and he was going 290 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 1: to see my grandma at lunch, and so he saw me. 291 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: They had put me in the hallway, like standing in 292 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: the corner, because that's what they did when we were kids. 293 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: And that I wonder if there's something to the idea 294 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 1: that that moment, that energy, that like feeling of just 295 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 1: such dread, if that alone could still be there, not 296 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: necessarily the spirits of someone, but that kind of imprint 297 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: for sure. I mean, when I was trying to figure 298 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: out my experience, I thought, oh, maybe it is the 299 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: kind of combined dread and fear that kids feel in 300 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 1: school when they've done something wrong, and maybe that somehow 301 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: has permeated the building. But then I also felt too, 302 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: if there was something that people call the principle in there, 303 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: if it gave the air of a principle, then most 304 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: kids do feel a kind of dread and terror and 305 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: nervousness and excitement when that figure is around. And if 306 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 1: that figure is still in there giving off that sense impression, 307 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: maybe that's what we're picking up. And since we can 308 00:18:56,359 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 1: only relate it to being young and not understanding and 309 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: the fear of being young and the fear of being punished, 310 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 1: we sense it as something bad, but it's really just 311 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 1: something doing its job. I mean, that's something to think about. 312 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 1: There's another report of a teacher in one of the 313 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 1: rooms they even still I think they've called it her room, 314 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: and spence along, I can't remember what her name is, 315 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: And it's along those same lines, like there's a teacher 316 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: in there doing their job, and so is there actually 317 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 1: a teacher and they're doing their job or is it 318 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: our conception of a teacher and they're doing their job 319 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: that it is an interesting theory. When I was there, 320 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: I thought it one of the experiences that I had 321 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: that is actually recorded. I have the entire thing on 322 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: video is I was doing an e VP session and 323 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 1: my recorder wouldn't work, and I tested my recorder. I 324 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: went outside and checked the batteries and tested it and 325 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 1: it worked. I went back inside and it wouldn't work. 326 00:19:56,320 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: And I literally stood in right behind the doors and 327 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 1: inside the school, and the recorder wouldn't work. And if 328 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: I leaned out and pressed record, it would work. And 329 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: it was almost as if something in the school was saying, like, 330 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 1: you can't do that in here, like it was turning 331 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: my recorder off. Mm hmm. Yeah, there's rules. There are 332 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 1: rules in a school. You can't play with a recorder 333 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: while you're in class. What are you doing anything. We 334 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: were doing a lot of research when we investigated, They're 335 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: just trying to find something associated with the building. We 336 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: did get some really interesting facts come from a spirit box. 337 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: And then later I found a story nearby that correlated 338 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 1: with these facts. We got the month of April and 339 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 1: it said farm and then it said hutch or knife 340 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 1: something along those lines. I could be misremembering, But then 341 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: I found the story of this young man named Terry 342 00:20:56,000 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: who was found murdered in a field very nearby a school, 343 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: and obviously you can that's such a small town that 344 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:07,160 Speaker 1: shook things up, and so it led me to believe 345 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: somehow he found his way into the school. I don't 346 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: know if you even knew about this, but did you 347 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: have any experiences with something that might fit that bill 348 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 1: or might be terry. When I investigated there, I think 349 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 1: the second or third time there seemed to be an 350 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: individual or an entity in the school that wasn't associated 351 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 1: with the school, and I could never figure that out. 352 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: I've often thought about for our that I still think 353 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: about it because it is such a strange place, and 354 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: I did learn some weird ideas there. I really do 355 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 1: feel like because it's in that location, because it's so 356 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: far away from everything else, and because for so long 357 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 1: people have not only gone to school there, they had 358 00:21:55,800 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: parties and dances and the entire all the surrounding population 359 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: would go there and celebrate because it was the big 360 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: building that you could do things in. And I almost 361 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: feel like if that gentleman died nearby, he would be like, oh, 362 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,440 Speaker 1: the school is a safe place for me to go. Yeah. 363 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: And so when I found out later this was when 364 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,679 Speaker 1: I was researching there, I started reaching out to people 365 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: who I knew this person, including his brother, and so 366 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 1: basically what happened was he spent time in a treatment 367 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 1: center and he didn't A woman wrote me on Facebook 368 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 1: who knew him because her brother in law was in 369 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: this treatment center at the same time. And apparently this 370 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: kid was very scared to leave because he thought he 371 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: was going to be killed that he and so he 372 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 1: was within days of them making him leave, and his 373 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 1: body wasn't found for months later. So if there was 374 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: anyone who would be looking for a safe place, I 375 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 1: feel like he would fit the bill. Yeah, for sure. Again, 376 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: as someone who grew up with family that worked in 377 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 1: the school, then working in the school myself. Let's I 378 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: can't tell you how many times we had kids that 379 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 1: and even not even kids, some adults when if someone 380 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 1: was in a strange car or if there was a 381 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: stranger in the neighborhood, kids would come to the school 382 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: because they knew it was safe in the school. Yeah. Yeah, 383 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: and he was only nineteen or twenty, so there was 384 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: a very good chance he even went to Ferrar at 385 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 1: some point, so who knows. But yeah, it's interesting because 386 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: it is such a small town and there's really nothing around. 387 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: I can't stress this enough. You are in the middle 388 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 1: of nowhere. It does kind of stand out because there 389 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: aren't really many big buildings like that, And even when 390 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,439 Speaker 1: it was built there was there was some commotion about 391 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 1: like how ostentatious it was, as they said, um for 392 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: you know, what they needed, because I think at the 393 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 1: time it was like a hundred thousand dollars, which was 394 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:53,439 Speaker 1: very expensive. They struggled to find students at one point too, 395 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: they were literally busting them in from other districts to 396 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 1: kind of fill this big space. And so I don't 397 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 1: know what I'm quite getting at from that. I'm just saying, 398 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: I guess I just it stands out. It does stand 399 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: as a bit of a beacon in the in the 400 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: middle of all this kind of corn all these cornfields, 401 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 1: for sure. And you know, the first time I went in, 402 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 1: we go to so many places as investigators that don't 403 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: look the way that they looked when they were in operation. 404 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: And for Art still looks like a school inside and out. 405 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: It smells like a school. You walk inside, and it's 406 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: got that that very distinct smell that you're like, I'm 407 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: not sure if this is comforting or if this is 408 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 1: bringing back memories that I don't want to think about. 409 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: There's literally like art projects still up on the walls, 410 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: there are books still on the shelves, like you could 411 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: just walk in and conduct a class tomorrow if you 412 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: wanted to. Yeah, And I think that familiarity really does 413 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: draw entities sometimes that it might be confused or looking 414 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: for something that seems like something they might remember. Now, 415 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 1: what about the investigations. Do you think that is affecting things? 416 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: I have felt that, at least in my investigations, Farrar 417 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 1: has always seemed more active during the day when school 418 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 1: would have been in session. I feel like at night 419 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 1: you might encounter a stray teacher or a janitor, or 420 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 1: perhaps some rampunctious kids. And I'm speaking entity wise, but 421 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,679 Speaker 1: I always feel like it was a lot like at 422 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 1: night when I investigated. To get some type of activity, 423 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: I would have to do something that was almost like 424 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 1: being a naughty child. I would have to run through 425 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 1: the hallways and slam the lockers and go into the 426 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 1: principal's office and do things that would get some attention 427 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 1: from a person being in a school at night. But 428 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 1: when I investigated there during the day, it seemed like 429 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: it was very active because it seemed like school was 430 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 1: in session. M hmm. Don't think I ever investigated there 431 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: during the day, but I had activity there during the day, 432 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: So that's interesting that you say that. And the activity 433 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: I got did sound like doors slamming and thin like 434 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 1: it did sound like something in session. And I feel 435 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 1: like maybe at night when people are investigating, the activity 436 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 1: is more maybe imposing, because maybe whoever whatever is there 437 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: is like it's nighttime, you're not supposed to be here. Yeah, 438 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 1: it's the night shift custodian or like I said, a 439 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 1: straight teacher, that's they're finishing up work. Yeah, the I know. 440 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: Like that gym area, it's so funny because like they 441 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,199 Speaker 1: they have it has a very large gym. That area 442 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: was the kind of although I didn't have a lot 443 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: of activity there, that was the area that I had 444 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: to go to buy myself a lot because the bathrooms 445 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: were down there, and I do remember not really enjoying that, 446 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 1: just that Jim felt very um. I don't know, there's 447 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: something odd about the gym. I don't know what it was. 448 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if you had any experiences there. And 449 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: then the bathroom itself, and no one wants to feel 450 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: like they're being watched in the bath room, but I 451 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: definitely felt like I was being watched in the bathroom there. 452 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 1: The gym area is was strange for me because there's 453 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 1: a door that leads off into the furnace area where 454 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: like janitors would probably go, and whenever I was in 455 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,360 Speaker 1: the gym, I always got a weird sensation that there 456 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: was someone in that kind of janitorial furnace room. The 457 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: upstairs that has the auditorium. When I was there during 458 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 1: the day doing investigations, standing up on stage and doing 459 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: parts of plays and singing, the activity that was in 460 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 1: the auditorium was very positive, as if someone was responding 461 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 1: to me doing what I was supposed to be doing 462 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 1: in the auditorium. But when I did that at night, 463 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: it really was unhappy that I was doing it. That is, 464 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: I would really like to see what your performance was 465 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: like in the auditorium, like what were you doing? Were 466 00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: you reciting Shakespeare like I was doing some I brought 467 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: a book of poetry and read poetry, and I did 468 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 1: a little Frank Sinatra song and I had a recorder. 469 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: I investigated it. Chad Lindbergh investigated with me there and 470 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: he sang songs and did parts from play. He went 471 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 1: full on actor on the auditorium and got responses. That 472 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: is clever. Now that makes me want to go back 473 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 1: and try again during the day because I just I 474 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: think I did a lot of research in there during 475 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: the day, and that's when I want to hear things 476 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 1: happening around me. But I guess I was being studious. 477 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: I was behaving. Yeah, you weren't being bad for once. 478 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: For once, I was behaving. That is. I feel like 479 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: it actually went up for sale recently, and now it's 480 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: not anymore, because like I, I checked it right before 481 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: I got on this call with you, and I was like, 482 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: can we buy Ferrar? Is this a possibility? But it 483 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: looks like it's been taken off the market. So yeah, 484 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: I knew it had gone up for sale. I didn't 485 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: know if it was still up for sale or not, 486 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,479 Speaker 1: but I was thinking about it to be because there 487 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: is something really strange about that place that draws you 488 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: to it and randomly throughout my days and I will 489 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: just have straight thoughts about Ferrar. And I was a 490 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: bad student all through school, and it's I find it 491 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: strange that I still think about that school, probably more 492 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: than my own. Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, you'd have been 493 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: drawn back there a number of times, so there's got 494 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: to be some reason to it. There are no accidents. 495 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: As they say, is there anything else about Ferrara? You 496 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: think our listeners might want to hear about any other 497 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: crazy experiences or thoughts. I will tell you this is 498 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: a slightly funny story. But when I was investigating for 499 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: the show Ghost Stalkers, at the end of every location 500 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: that we investigated, as we drove away, I would jokingly 501 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: and the whole crew knew this. They would get to 502 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: the point where they would say, do it tenny, And 503 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: as I was driving away, I would very almost ungraciously 504 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: say goodbye to the location, and it was very humorous 505 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:13,959 Speaker 1: and very funny. And when I investigated ferrar during that time, 506 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: on the last night, the last investigation, the last e 507 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: VP session, the response that I got on my recorder 508 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: was a voice not mine, giving me the exact same, 509 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: not appropriate language, telling me goodbye. Interesting. Well, I have 510 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 1: always since there was something a little sassy there, so well, 511 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: good well, maybe sometime we'll get to go back and 512 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: investigate it together. That would be really fun. Tell me, now, 513 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: what are you up to? Where can people find you? 514 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: What's going on in the world of Tenny? I do 515 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: a weekly podcast called What's Up Weirdo, where I talked 516 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: to my friend Jessica. It's just a conversation between two friends. 517 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: My website is weird Lectures dot com and all of 518 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: my social media is John E. L. Tenney Fantastic. I 519 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: love the podcast. I love listening to you guys. It 520 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: makes me feel happy because you two are such good friends, 521 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: and I'm like, feel like I'm hanging out with you 522 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: because I miss you, guys. That's what it was. That's 523 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: what it was meant for. Yes, so well, thank you 524 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: so much for taking the time. I appreciate it, and 525 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: hopefully I will be seeing you very soon. You know, 526 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: if a place has firmly planted itself in the research 527 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 1: brain of John Tenny, something weird is going on there. 528 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: For our school defies logic, but really doesn't the idea 529 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: of ghosts in general defy all logic. I'd need to 530 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: investigate a lot more at the school to get any 531 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: sort of handle of what's drawing the activity to it. 532 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: But I wonder if being one of the loan substantial 533 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: buildings in the middle of acres of corn fields and 534 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: houses that are sometimes miles apart. Could the school be 535 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: some sort of beacon to wandering souls? The school at 536 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: self never seemed to fit there, being such a large 537 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: structure in a town of forty people. It was so 538 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: big that students had to be bussed there from other 539 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: districts just to keep it in operation. It closed not 540 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: because it was falling apart, but because the community just 541 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: didn't need it. They were tired of bussing over two 542 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: kids from another district every day, so they built a bigger, 543 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: newer facility and moved them all there. So for our school, 544 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: defying all the odds, a school that some never wanted 545 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: but that the community grew to love and rally around, 546 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 1: now stands quiet and vacant, say for the occasional event 547 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 1: or paranormal team passing through the building patiently awaits its 548 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: next incarnation. I'm Amy Brunei and this was Haunted Road. 549 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 1: If you want to join us on a spooky vacation, 550 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: please check out my company, Strange Escapes at Strange dash 551 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 1: escapes dot com. Also, new episodes of Kindred Spirits are 552 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: currently airing on Travel Channel on Saturday nights at ten 553 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: ninth Central or streaming on Discovery Plus. You can also 554 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: catch our investigation of for Our School on Kindred in 555 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 1: season four, episode one. Haunted Road is a production of 556 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio and Grimm and Mild from Aaron Mankey. 557 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: The podcast is written and hosted by Amy Bruney. 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