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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you.

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Speaker 2: Katherine Nadal has been a certified public and psychic medium

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Speaker 2: with the Forever Family Foundation back since twenty thirteen. She's

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Speaker 2: a registered nurse, retired Army colonel, thank you for serving

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Speaker 2: thirty years. Certified grief educator with doctor David Kessler's Grief

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Speaker 2: Training Program. Catherine is also a witch and reverend and

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Speaker 2: our Lord and Lady of the Trykinian Church in Salem, Massachusetts.

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Speaker 2: In December of twenty twenty three, she began to host

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Speaker 2: a weekly radio show in Tampa, Florida called Bringing the

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Speaker 2: Darkness to Light. A couple of her latest books include

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Speaker 2: of Course and She Danced by the Light of the

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Speaker 2: Moon and then Seeing More Than Clouds in Your Coffee. Catherine,

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, Cove you.

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Speaker 3: Ben very good. Thank you so much George for having

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Speaker 3: me on again.

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Speaker 2: Have you Ben?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Very good? Yeah, you know, I was so curious.

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Speaker 3: I was listening to your other guests prior to me

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Speaker 3: coming on, and it's fascinating in an elevator with God.

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Speaker 3: You know, I believe as a witch. I believe in

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Speaker 3: a higher power. I believe in the God and goddesses,

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Speaker 3: but I also believe in getting signs and symbols, you know.

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Speaker 3: And it's pretty incredible because just in November I had

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Speaker 3: been out in Las Vegas, and on my return from

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Speaker 3: Las Vegas, I had a very vivid dream and in

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Speaker 3: the dream with doctor Lourie Nadell, who you know very well.

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Speaker 3: She wrote the Folly to my book, and she was

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Speaker 3: telling me that she had the information about the radio show.

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Speaker 3: And in the dream, I kept saying, well, give it

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Speaker 3: to me, and she kept saying, you have it. So

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Speaker 3: I woke up and I thought, jeez, what is this about?

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Speaker 3: You know? So I just went to the internet. It

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Speaker 3: was bothering me. I said, how do I get a

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Speaker 3: radio show? And there was only one and it was

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Speaker 3: in Tampa. And the idea that I saw palm trees

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Speaker 3: behind her, and she currently lives in Florida. I saw

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Speaker 3: him send an email, and I sent an email, and

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Speaker 3: four or five hours later, this man called and I

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Speaker 3: didn't know it was, you know, my phone was flipped over.

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Speaker 3: So I said hello, LI said, not knowing, and he

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Speaker 3: said fourteen ninety wwpr And I said oh wow, you

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Speaker 3: know you called and he said, you know, why did

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Speaker 3: you reach out? And I said, I know it's going

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Speaker 3: to sound odd, but I'm a psychic medium and I

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Speaker 3: had a dream last night, he said last night, and

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Speaker 3: I told him about my life and everything I said,

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Speaker 3: he googled and finally he interrupted me and he said,

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but everything you've said is the truth. I said,

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Speaker 3: of course, when you think I'm William and he laughed.

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Speaker 3: He said no, he said, I never met anyone like you.

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Speaker 3: He said, you can have a show and I said,

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Speaker 3: oh okay, and he said, and I'm going to name

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Speaker 3: it for you. And I said you're going to name

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Speaker 3: it and he said yeah. He said, the only name

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Speaker 3: for it is Bringing the Darkness to Light because I

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Speaker 3: told him how many people that I know in the

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Speaker 3: music business, and you know, MYPD and nine to eleven

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Speaker 3: and fire and military and Navy seals, and I said,

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Speaker 3: they all have a story to tell, and I want

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Speaker 3: to tell their story with them, and he said that's

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Speaker 3: the title. So since November, since December, I've been doing

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Speaker 3: this radio show and it's just pretty incredible towards I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's not at the level of yours, but I've learned

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Speaker 3: so much.

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Speaker 2: It's for it's fun thought.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's a lot of fun. And so many people,

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Speaker 3: you know, I have a nice platform on Instagram and

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Speaker 3: their friends have done my show and they say, I

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Speaker 3: have an album that's going to drop in a month,

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Speaker 3: or I'm putting a book out, or I'm you know,

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Speaker 3: I'm doing this and it's really interesting because AM radio

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Speaker 3: is alive and well, you know, right here in New

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Speaker 3: York we have seven seventy WABC, we have seven ten WOY.

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Speaker 3: You know, AM Radio was still a live you know,

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Speaker 3: and that's what they're excited about, you know, because there's

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Speaker 2: Catherine, tell us about your title of this book, Seen

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Speaker 2: more than Clouds in your Coffee.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So that was my first book, and that came

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Speaker 3: out around twenty twelve, and it was inspired from my

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Speaker 3: I did. And it was the first psychic fair. There

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Speaker 3: very big psychic fair in Westchester County, right outside of

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Speaker 3: I said, oh my god, I'm going to bring a book.

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Speaker 3: So it caught on. And one of the reasons for

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Speaker 3: a lot of people had started following me wanting to

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Speaker 3: know how is it possible, how could someone you know

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Speaker 2: What was it like being a witch in the military.

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Speaker 3: Well that's interesting because several years ago and I know

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Speaker 3: probably about more than fifteen years ago now, and it

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Speaker 3: it's interesting because I started working in Salem, Massachusetts during

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Speaker 3: Thirty years. Yeah, I joined, believe it or not. I

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Speaker 3: Six more years and get a twenty year letter and

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Speaker 3: have left it fourteen years. But then when I got

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Speaker 3: twenty years, George, and I know you served and thank

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